"It was delusion to think that your actions had any effect," Ironically, what I love the most about Vader isn't his fighting. It's his dialogue. His wit, his strategy. His mind basically.
Even his lightsaber fighting. It's been noted in canon that Vader had to change his lightsaber fighting style after Mustafar and his transformation into a mostly mechanical cyborg, because of the hindrance to his physical mobility due to the suit being rather restrictive. You'll notice Anakin was very agile and his fighting reflected that, but with the mech suit he had to adapt to more of a brawler style because the range of motion in his body was severely limited compared to pre-Mustafar Anakin. It's awesome they fit that detail in so well with the games while still showing the Chosen One's formidable power over the force, which in my opinion compensates for the lack of mobility 100%. Just imagine what damage Vader with a fully intact, non-mechanical body could do
@@GMP1isReal I believe so, I've heard that somewhere else before but never checked to be sure but it makes the most sense to me, especially seeing the level of technology the empire has at its disposal in the newer shows and movies I would say Vader's obsolete suit was intentional. Not only does it make perfect sense for Palps to do that, it also serves to magnify Vader's suffering on all levels. I mean dude imagine being literally ripped limb from limb, set on fire, then saved from th brink of death to immediately undergo massive surgery, no painkillers or anesthesia, that leaves you crammed into a clunky metallic suit, rods and tubes jabbed into your ribs and other orifices to make you breathe and go peepeepoopoo without dying in the process, literally encased in a barely functioning contraption. That would be horrific, leads to believe the suffering was intentional to make Vader more willing to comply in order to seek a meaningful end to the pain. I feel for Vader and always have, that guy had it rough.
alot of people seem to forget why Darth Vader is the most feared, he is the most trained living jedi honed by Jedi masters, tempered by war and quenched in Sith... He only lost to Luke because he didnt want to kill his son.
The thing is a living avatar, not only of the Dark Side, but also the will of the Force as a whole to restore balance. Vader is the reset button, and all other Jedi and Sith are simply boot instances.
Luke 100% bested Vader wdym? It was only until the end when Vader truly saw his son dying that he sacrificed himself, Luke did tap into the dark side and that helped but it’s been stated on multiple occasions that at the end of RotJ Luke had surpassed Vader.
Man I love how Vader always takes fights seriously when he gets hurt. Here and when Luke wounded his shoulder. Once he actually starts trying its game over.
Its crazy to think about how Vader completely turned his fighting style around. Anakin used to use his freedom of movement and strength to overwhelm and oppress his foes. Vader simply walks towards you his movement is limited, but the strength is still there. Your attacks will be blocked or counterspelled with force push. His attacks will come crashing down upon you relentlessly like a rockslide. You can't outrange or outmaneuver him because he can just put you where he wants and continue his assault.
This reminded me of fighting against young fencers - teenagers and early 20's - and how much their speed and aggressiveness impacts a duel. Compared to that when you have older fencers with less mobility but much more experience and skill, precise movements and full control of the duel. Yes, recklessness of youth can be difficult to deal with, but a master against whom nothing you try works, is just terrifying. That's just my personal experience based on sabre fencing.
I love the end shot of Vader just limping out. For any other person, it would've been a near death experience that would've changed their lives but for Vader, it's just another miserable Monday (and he looks kinda pissed that the fight got to that point lol).
I mean, you can't see his face beneath that mask. For all we know he could also be absolutely shell-shocked since this was a pretty close call he probably did not expect.
I love how you can tell Darth Vader wasn't using his full power in most of these scenes. It's so obvious that lore-wise, most of the damage he took came form the debris.
Oh he was using his power but I like to think that he was a little scared and out of balance by Cere's composure and "i am stronger than you, you got no chance" attitude. He even nervously looked around when she pull that lever, like she was trying to cut his escape route similar like he did to separatist leaders when he was hunting them. And she almost won, Vader was starting loosing this fight, he was wounded and she was fine, his tactic obviously wasn't working until the point when Cere lost her patience and blindfully rushed on him and he used her mistake perfectly.
@@anakinvader9120 Also how Vader walks in like "I was called here on overtime" - "Nice place you have here, sorry to ruin it" and then when she's defeated he just walks away without a word, probably thinking "That's it for today, time for my Bacta bath"
Imagine you being hired to steal something for a high ranking imperial officer in a remote planet with minimal imperial/rebel activity only to hear the iconic breath behind the only entrance you entered in,,, 💀💀💀💀
I think when they designed Vader that Vader was meant to sound chilling and haunting cause they wanted to make a character that we as fans would fear for years to come that even the sound of his voice or his breathing would scare us to no end cause we know Vader is unkillable
Also Vader doesn't really feel good about anything anymore. He won. He doesn't feel any better. It's just another week in a bacta tank with his memories to keep him company.
@@hidan407 Pretty much. He's painfully lonely. His only connection is an evil old man who'd kill him if he showed weakness, and he'd do likewise if he could. He's not just in pain...he lives in it purposely, to draw strength from the dark side. The closest he comes to normality is leading his troops (it's said he has excellent rapport and respect from his stormtroopers) and fighting on the front line. Challenging himself. But like any high, it fades once the fight is over.
@@dustinjones7458 So he constantly fights cause thats the only thing that lets him feel again 🤔 Jesus christ someone give Vader a hug. Maybe anakin will come out again. I wish Vader was able to talk to Padme's ghost or something to help him live again before meeting luke
@@hidan407 "Someone give Vader a hug" Legit the plot of Return of the Jedi 😂. It was dependent on Luke tho. Ashoka and Obi Wan both tried and failed to get through to him. They both knocked half the mask off, while Luke was the only one able to fully get through to his father.
I love how whenever Vader uses the Force, it sounds like reality itself is warping under the strain - like he's not so much _using_ the Force as he is *abusing it* and bending it to his will.
There is also the fact that cybernetic implants make it harder to use the Force. It's been stated in various bits of media that since the Force moves through living things, mechanical prothesis' interfere with tapping into it. Despite this, Vader is still one of the most powerful wielders of the Force. The idea that he's using brute force to compensate because he's lost so much fine control and ease of connection fits extremely well.
I think people also forget that one of Vader’s favorite tactics is to make Jedi afraid. Because fear imbalances them. Cere let go of fear so she had her full potential on hand. Add to that Vader’s incessant need to play with his food and this fight checks out. Power and skill are only 1/3 of the equation for force users. Lack of inner conflict that conflicts with whatever side you’re using is also crucial, otherwise you’re nerfing yourself.
Agreed Vader was messing with her in the last game because he knew he was in control of the situation so he wanted her to use anger against him and lead her to the dark side.
True although u got a valid point vader is way too tanky even strong jedi masters not named obi wan had trouble fighting him ans most died too easily so yes he can be a bit too overconfident when he fights which leads to his opponents hitting him a few times but hes always been stronger tham everyone else even obi wan had to work hard and smart to beat him in terms of pure strength and afiinity with the force vader is too unstoppable only reason hes take a few hits from some of his fights was cuz he played too much with his enemies instead of out right going for the kill vader is the least nerfed person in star wars even if he doesnt take his battles seriously tho 🤦🏾🤦🏾
You can kinda of see Anakin and Vader favor Goku mentality. It's not really about toying with his food it's about testing his skill and challenging himself with a worthy opponent. However, just like Goku weakness similar to Vader he will let his gaurd down it's his arrogance as a fighter that leaves him in tough situations that is the reason Obi Wan bested him twice really three times but will leave TNH out of it.
I love how Vader fights it’s just so overwhelming. It’s impossible to block his attacks, they’re too strong. You can’t counter, he’s too strong. You can’t get too close because he’s an amazing duelist, you can’t get away because he’ll just pull you back to him. Vader is damn near unstoppable, cere should have had some sand
I think the new Canon has done a good job portraying Vader as an unstoppable force. He's always out of everyone else's (save Obi-Wan's) league, and those who do manage to best him typically don't survive a rematch. I love the way Vader's "boss fights" play out. In Fallen Order, he has no health, a not-so-subtle indicator that you're not supposed to fight him, but run. Here, although he has a health bar now, you never really deplete it all the way, showing that while Cere had a better chance than Cal, she was never going to win. The main reason she put up as good of a fight as she did was because Vader was toying with her until the debris damaged his suit.
@@elliottblair31 He’s saying he was toying with her until the debris damaged his suit. When he moves her lightsaber away with the force, he stood there with his lightsaber just staring, clearly messing around. Then, when he realizes that he’s messed around too much, Cere dies.
@@Drew_2152 Yes, but Vader/Anakin is not THE Force. Was he one of the greatest force wielders of his time? Yes. He brought balance to the force because the Jedi were so overwhelmingly powerful at the time that the dark side needed to levelled out. Just like when Anakin/Vader recreated the imbalance by destroying nearly every jedi and Luke came about and was 10x stronger than Vader. They are what the Force sends out to balance it, but they are not the force itself.
Holy shit did anyone else notice that homage to the Vader x Obi-Wan fight from A New Hope at 2:28? The way they hold their sabers, lightly flicking at the other, testing their guard, looking for an opportunity to strike, like a real sword fight. Absolutely incredible.
I think they really did a good job with conveying vader's power through the gameplay. When you switch to Cere you realise how much more powerful she is than Cal, you can cut through enemies much more easily, you can take on so many more at a time. And then you encounter Vader and he is still the most difficult boss fight you've come up against.
You can actually see Vader moving slightly away from that last attack. And the tactic he used was a classic hero's tactic. Making his opponent lunge right into his blade. That tactic is used to show that the villain killed themselves rather than the hero's doing. And Vader used just to show Cere fighting Vader in the first place was a death sentence.
That is an incredibly astute observation! "the tactic he used was a classic hero's tactic. Making his opponent lunge right into his blade. That tactic is used to show that the villain killed themselves rather than the hero's doing". I believe in addition to that, another comparison would be along the lines of villains drinking milk to appear deceivingly innocent in appearance (babies drink milk) which makes them more insidious. By killing her in a "hero way" it's similar to drinking milk. Evil in the form of ironic mockery at it's finest.
@@AsAWhiteManMarriedToALatina I would agree with you on that, at least on the greater perspective of Vader (in common terms). When I said "evil" it was in reference to what the average person colloquially refers to as evil. The average person generally doesn't possess the social intelligence required to even begin accurately assessing an "evil" person's mind, which is also why sociopaths (and just about anything these days if we're being honest) is labeled as "evil". -Due to a lack of true sympathy. In my opinion, Vader is more akin to a "dark empath" as I believe any strong user of the dark side is, as they rely on negative emotions (primarily of others) in order to achieve their power. Vader is famous for hating himself more than anyone, after all. That's what makes Star Wars so grand, it forces people to sympathize with all involved in the story, rather than being just another "black and white/close minded" fairy tale.
@@bobmcham5192Force jiujitsu by the sounds of it? Excellent analysis. 🔥 My thoughts are that Evil is that which cannot be grasped or consumed by another's understanding, try as one may. The use of the label itself defines a lack of knowledge in the wielder as much as defines any moral deed in the accused. If we would look closely, we would see that much in this plane exists in spite of the "Evil" of material existence.
It also emphasizes something you see in his lightsaber strikes - no wasted movement. It sort of reveals a truth the game hides, which is that he could have killed her at any point. But that's not the job. It's not just Kill the Jedi. It's kill their hope. Break the faith. He keeps looking for things to use to dig at Cere, and there's nothing - except her absolute conviction that she has to kill him, has to win. If she stops it here, even if she dies, it's worth it. He could have *taken* the thrust to the gut and lived through it while killing her, because for him, it's all infinitely repairable. It's just more machine parts. But He denies her that. He moves just the exact amount necessary right as she finds hope, and then he kills *that.* No beheading stroke, no stab through the heart to finish the job. Just lets her fall to her knees knowing she's failed. That's when he leaves. That's when the jobs done. What a perfect villain.
Couple things Cere had going for her here; She knew what she was up against, most jedi who dealt with Vader met their end the first fight. She had honed her skills following Fallen Order and regained her sense of self control, she had no fear, nothing mentally for Vader to pick apart. All of that, and it still wasnt enough to beat him.
It shows that, despite the fact one of Vader's strongest points is fear and intimidation, he IS still Anakin Skywalker and has the skills to easily back up that intimidation factor.
Arguably she did best him at the limit of her Jedi powers...but going for the killing blow was for selfish reasons. Not that it wouldn't have been justified...it's just what she wanted, not the force. She wasn't selfless enough to make that strike...or perhaps the will of the force was that it should not be done. In any case it was a fatal mistake.
I always love when Vader slow walks and lumbers, you think "Oh he's all clunky and stiff" then suddenly just unleashes a barrage of deadly center mass targeted blows that physically send you staggering back and disorientated when blocked. He doesn't have to be fast, he just has to stop you being fast.
I feel like Vader not saying _anything_ as you’re dying on the floor from at least one stab or slash wound is one of the highest complements you can receive in Star Wars, tbh
The way they make Vader seem so powerful and invincible, I love the fact that the only Jedi who seemingly can beat him going all out is obi wan. He can kill everyone else and destroy who anakin was but he cannot beat the last remnant of anakins past in his old master
@@danya-kz1wi Luke is his boy. He was clearly going very easy on him. 🥺 He didn't really want to hurt him, if you compare all the other displays of his strenght - movies, series, comics, games - to that fight in RotJ.
@@bl_iss That's also the tech limitations of the era. Word of God wise? Luke was as strong as Vader in that fight, although less experienced (and Vader had doubts in that fight, so he wasn't at his strongest). That same Vader would have wrecked anyone not called Yoda or Obi Wan.
He can destroy anyone tbh except obi wan. Because of his inner feelings for obi wan. As a brother. As a master. As friend. His feeling didn't let him kill obi wan.
@@6PathsGohanOne of Vaders winning strategies is shock and awe. Only a handful of Jedi if any ever succeeded the first meeting. Its very different to train to beat someone you faced before than to "train" without Aim or focus.
I think a better version of this fight would be if at the halfway mark, Vader takes the fight seriously like in Empire and the player is suddenly playing as Vader.
I love this since it really shows Vaders form of lightsaber combat well. You can see Cere get tired trying to block his blows while also trying to maneuver around. A solid fight scene. For how short it was
That was the most badass thing I’ve seen in a longtime. People will get mad about it but I think it was well done. Vader still won and was an absolute badass
It was done perfectly. Cere is an assured Jedi master, Vader is an overconfident and cocky sith (at this point). He didn’t take her seriously at first, and almost paid the price for it.
he didn't take her seriously even at the end lol 4:11. It felt like after the debris he switched from 10% to 15% power. He can be aggressive like he did in Kenobi, but I didn't see an ounce of that here tbh.
I’m glad I’m not the only person that prefers Vader not being this overpowered unstoppable force that can never be harmed by anyone other than the legacy characters. Cere was an awesome character and her send off was also badass.. and Vader is of course as menacing as he always is. Star Wars fans will unfortunately get angry at anything the series does these days.
The fact vader spends basically the whole fight doing the absolute bare minimum and mostly swings with one hand shows he couldn't care any less about Cere. He limps from the impact of having a section dropped on him but still walks away less like it was a hard fight and more like "Alright. That's done. Onto the next assignment." He didn't even give her a speech or really taunt her during the fight. Really gives the "For you it was the worst day of your life, for me it was tuesday" vibe
To make lightsaber battles more realistic in video games, instead of hitting your opponent when you "strike" them, you cause them to perform a desperation "auto-block" when you register a hit. This uses up some of their auto-block gauge. The auto-block gauge is effectively a health bar, and when you lose it the next strike actually hits your body and kills you.
That's exactly how it worked in Jedi Knight games. There was no "blocking", your lightsabers either collided and no one took damage, or they didn't and someone got dismembered.
I agree. I had To stop playing for rest of the Day To process what just happened. Bodes betrayal, Cordovas death, reveal Bode is a Jedi, Vader and Ceres death just left me speechles. Easily Best moment from this game
>Tons of visual jankiness (sudden calm stances between cuts, Cal's crying face, etc) >You have to play as that ugly lady that's in every game >You deal enough damage to Darth Vader to make him limp away First one handled it better
This fight pretty much showed that Cere was more powerful than we imagine she'd be We already had an idea in the final level of Fallen Order when she took on 4 Purge Troopers with ease and how she managed to keep up with Vader for only a tiny bit Here she managed well on her own against Vader, even to the point of making him breathe heavily which indicates that Vader is having trouble fighting or he has been damaged incredibly during the fight, either way Cere gave him a good fight, so he gave her a quick but honorable death
vader was literally toying with her, i dont think he saw this as a good fight. it was just an errand he had to run. he tends to acknowledge good fights while he’s having them if youve read the books/comics. all he said to cere was “youve grown stronger” which isnt even really a compliment it was just an observation. he still easily defeated her
@mapowey7214 if you actually read the books and comics you'd know that if Vader actually was playing with her, he'd always get a last word in before striking the killing blow. Here, he literally limps away from the fight, having win, but keeping completely silent. Cere had his utmost respect as a combatant. And let's not forget that the canonical reason Vader is so effective as a jedi slayer is because there are very few jedis that don't fear him. The moment they show fear, Vader feeds on it and uses it against them. There are reportedly jedi masters who have beaten or forced Vader to submit and in every case, those jedi did not fear Vader.
@trackert3358 Not discrediting, just making an observation. Dark side user gain power from pain, Vader knows and usually acts recklessly in order tu suffer damage, after all he's pretty much a cyborg that can be fixed any time
I feel like this hasn’t been spoken about enough, but can anyone else hear how much pain Cal was going through? That sounded like a genuine cry of sadness rather than anger when his master died. He just lost one of the people who brought him back up.
I remember the actress who played Cere talked about feeling his actual tears fall on her face when they did the scene and how powerful that moment was for them to capture
@@tooslow4065stfu with that lame shi, real or not , ppl can still feel a way about the acting, ironic how you’re here watching something that ain’t real tho huh😂?
2:21 you could really see Vader's strength here. The way Cere tries to block him only for his lightsaber to not only break her guard but also knock her shows how strong Vader really was in his prime
This is FAR from Vader's prime. Look into the mechanics of his suit, there are videos here on UA-cam detailing just how inefficient and restrictive Vader's suit really is, and how much Anakin's battle with Obi-wan on Mustafar actually crippled his power. Had Anakin won that battle against Obi-wan maybe we could have seen a true "prime" Vader. But it's amazing that even in his severely crippled state he was able to become such a dominant force throughout the star wars universe. Also I'd like to add that at the end of the fight with Cere you could definitely hear a disruption in Vader's classic breathing due to the damage to his suit's breathing apparatus. Awesome little subtle detail I found more appreciation for than I probably should have
@@Chi11monger nahh man Anakin was already Vader when he gave to the dark side and committed a school...stabbing? He killed the younglings. I'd say prime Vader was the one fighting Obi-wan on Mustafar, he had already given himself to the dark and was mostly intact aside from a robotic hand. After the events of Mustafar and the emperor got him setup with the iconic suit, he became what I personally consider the crippled Vader. Still, to have such immense power while being literally half alive is fucking badass
@@treybowers154he lost that fight because of a type of drug persay the dark side is like adrenaline where you feel like a rush and thrive in a moment while the light side is like a seditive to where you slowly numb yourself to important things Vader in his fight against obi-wan was Arrogant and full of adrenaline like a player with Protag syndrome
It’s amazing writing that he wasn’t trying and you can tell. He was mocking her by throwing the archives at her. But a small detail that was beautiful is after the first phase he switches from one hand combat to on fire with two hands, and getting more angry. He’s bested by Cere to which his longer lightsaber bests her. Absolutely brilliant writing
Tbh I am not a fan of how they made Vader limp out at the end. But that's it, the rest of the fight was cool and although my Vader fanboy side of me is screaming that Vader could clap her no to little diff, you do make a point. Only once a Jedi loses his fear of Vader will they ever become strong enough for him to try.
@@dungeonmaster7423 thing with Jedi’s is they only beat sith because they aren’t rash with their anger. All the sith use their anger to win. But Jedi use tactics and their surroundings to beat the sith. Cere had the adrenaline for protecting the rebellion, she’d learnt from the archives and a Jedi Grandmaster but she also had unique abilities which Vader underestimated. Yh I agree he shouldn’t have limped out, but it showed the Anakin in him. His need for victory. He won the fight so Anakin picks Vader up. But Vader is constantly pushing himself and challenging himself to become the greatest sith. That might even mean he lays off the aggression a bit to learn. Or in his arrogance, and lack of care, dies at the guilt of padme’s death
@@StalwartShinobi kenobi is set 10 years after rots. At that point he is no longer impulsive as he was as anakin. This has nothing to do with him not being used to it. It's been ten years, it's just the writers not giving a shit. Stop making excuses for them. He still had some cool shit in the show tho
I think his rarity is part of the mystique Directors and developers like to implement. Even in the original trilogy he didn’t have all that much screen time
Cal may have grown beard and may have matured over the years, but his spirit is still as light as his younger days. Its ok buddy, there's nothing you could've done. It's on him, not you.
Wha? Did we play the same game? His spirit is not as light as it was when he was younger, that was kinda the point of the ending. Embracing the darkside, shooting Bode twice, slaughtering people when chasing Bode. Next game if we get one, he will be a very different character.
95% of the damage Vader received in this fight was from the bookshelf and debris dropped on him. Still, the fact that Cere found an opening like that and actually backed Vader for even a slim second (at best) is impressive. Considering how he got out, Cere, even if she lost and she would have lost even of Vader didn't have plot armour, managed to do more damage to him than 99.99% of the entire SW galaxy could ever hope. I think it also helps her greatly the fact that she was a calm true Jedi in this moment, whereas Vader underestimated her and gave her that opening in the first place. If Vader took her completely seriously from the get go, then Cere wouldn't have last so long and Vader would have taken so much damage, cause he would either have caught the bookshelf and debris, or he wouldn't have created that opening in the first place.
@@T1Top It takes concentration to use the force, especially mid-fight, and it looks like she caught him by surprise with that move. Vader is way more powerful, but that doesn’t mean he’s ready to immediately react to every last possible scenario. Especially when he doesn’t seem to be taking it seriously at first like in this fight.
@@oldspice051 He's taking it quite seriously. Doesn't mean he's going to make a fuss and be a try hard. What Vader is doing is LETTING himself be a target. Just like in Fallen Order. He wants Cere to have a taste of that power. The idea is to break her. Then cere jumps in blind and Vader has to defend himself. It's her mistake. Vader doesn't hate or resent Cere. The situation is what it is. Probably can't face her due to already having killed her sister. It's kind of hard to look someone in the eye after going "I killed your familiy and now I injured you and you're slowly dying". Even Vader isn't that heartless. He's moving away because what else can he do at that point? Stare blankly at Cere while she dies? What would he even say? Vader, for once, is in a situation where he's not quite sure what else to do. Except move on. Just like with Anakin. Always trying to move forward at least. If he stalled, lingered, froze up and just stared, he'd probably feel incapable. He's only going to stick around and not swing his saber at you if you get him thinking. Cere said nothing (kind of hard too when stabbed). So off he goes. You're weak. You're dying. You know you jumped in blind. That's just how it is.
@@taramaforhaikido7272 considering he didn’t even attempt to block it I don’t know why Cere didn’t aim for the head nobody is surviving a lightsaber to the face lol
@MrcabooseVG Bruh why do people like you get SO mad when a strong girl shows up?💀💀 Women can't be good fighters anymore? Are only dudes allowed to be on top?
Love how the respirator is damaged and at the end it looks like the killing blow was landed, only to reveal Vader had the upper hand. For a brief moment, they both were equally as close to death. Then Vader slowly rises and his respirator functions normally.
Nah if you watch the fight you can see that Vader was stronger than her, the problem is that he was playing with his food and got hit by that falling debris. After that Vader was struggling because of the damage suit and injuries which gave Cere a chance to fight back. Starkiller was just OP from the beginning, the guy is Goku of the Star Wars universe.
@Holyflame fully agree. I don't understand why everyone keeps screaming they ruined him and made him weak. Like no he played around to much with his food like you said. witch has proven to put him in bad situations in the past plus she isn't a padawn she is jedi knight/veteran. Its a different ball game compared to the first one.
I loved everything in this fight. The way vader man handles you with the force if you sit too far back and how once he gets burnt his move set completely changes to be 1000x more dangerous had me going ballistic
@@cowboypete2201 no. The TV series "Obi-wan Kenobi" takes place 10 years after the rise of the Empire, therefore in the same year of the events happened in this videogame. The Hidden Path is a strong connection.
@@TAITFM he lost on obi wan. it's just that kenobi decided to spare him. he was, at that point, at kenobi's mercy. this, however, vader is a clear winner.
@@riverpb5250 Vader was still standing his ground. He could have still fought if he wanted too. Tne Obi Won walks away. Again. Ever the coward. This hurts Vader more then any saber strike. Vader doesn't want Obi Won to "die". Vader wants Obi Won to have more courage. It helps contrast Obi Won's death in the older movies. He probably got tired of running away. Vader poking the robes as if he can't believe what had happened. The coward standing his ground at last. It's clever plot writing here.
I know your comment was 11 months ago, but I want to remind you that when Vader was still on the ground, Obi Wan, instead of killing him right away, he literally steps away and lets Vader get up, this makes it clear that Obi Wan won that fight.
I love Vader’s cocky dominating attitude. It’s simple and terrifying. “It is delusion to think your actions have any consequence. The fortress stands. The inquisitorious continues it’s work. And I have come for you.” He’s so sassy! 😄
I'm not sure if anyone noticed this but in the first phase of the fight he goes one-handed meaning he doesn't take the fight seriously but after getting set on fire he goes two handed when he takes the opponent seriously very cool attention to detail for Vader
Definitely preferred the first game's version where he's not a boss battle, he's a force of nature horror villain you can only hope to run from. Vader should be so far above the Force users in this game that he'd crush them without much effort at all.
@@simonsalgueiro6217 Personnally, what I would like to see is Darth Vader as a boss, but he is like *immortal* Like he block every attack, he fight nonchalantly, maybe you can make him lose 5% of is life max and the challenge is to try your best to survive above 2 or 3 minutes haha
@@simonsalgueiro6217 Yeah, well, the new breed of writers seem to think George Lucas was a joke. Years of training under a Jedi Master and practising your skills in real life seems to all be nothing when a female protagonist takes charge. Then you can just do stuff. No need to train, no practice required. You can lift rocks, create a Forcefield around you, fly through space, whatever you want. It's the Marvel age of Star Wars.
@@PostSasso atleast cere was a good character and not a cheap character to get more feminist subscribers I actually liked cere and glad she went out the way she did
@@cfwoods04 That last blow WOULD've been brutal if Vader were to not grab/ influence her trajectory by using the force. From both of their reactions, it looked like that would've been a killing blow in a normal sith/Jedi duel... UNFORTUNATELY for Cere, Vader is so powerful with the force, normal duel rules just don't apply to him
@@magentaplatinum1430 any hit from a lightsaber has the ability to be lethal, but with the difference between cere and vader in every way fighting wise I highly doubt vader ever had a moment we he thought “oh she almost got me”
@@cfwoods04 you've got a point. btw, isn't Vader's cape lightsaber-deflecting or smth? anyhow, if anything, I think he was playing along all throughout until the very last moment. palpy style twist-flip!! woohahh!
I like how the blade that can cut through anything has no effect on him but a bunch of playstation 1 game cases falling on em makes his breather get funky for a moment
@@LakiStrikeYeah when I reached the second phase I thought I would be forced to actually learn how to parry. Thankfully there is a way to beat him by just dodging.
In my opinion Matt Sloan is a better Vader voice actor, although he captures the young, rage filled Vader better than James Earl Jones' more older and more experienced Vader
Can we talk about how effortless vader shifts from lightsaber combat to force combat? Whenever cere had a genuine chance at landing a good blow on him, he just gracefully but briefly extends his hand, and force pushes her back to stop her and then continues his swordplay? It really shows how the aggressiveness of anakin is still there, but in a much more controlled and effectively way
did Vader respect Ezra before attempting to decapitating him before Ahsoka intervened? @@manoftheyear5895 Vader was probably getting into her head to get her cocky and eliminate her
Not to detract from these games, as awesome as they are, but it really feels like it takes one of the greatest weapons in science fiction and reduces it to all the fun of idly swinging and hitting stuff with a whiffle ball bat (still fun, mind you), when it's not remembering it's a lightsaber and cutting things in half
@@tingispingis yeah, but the enemies aren't defenseless, you're only a danger to them (with exception to a few force abilities) unless you get close. That can be worked around, smartly. First game sees you losing it, often, leaning on the old Obi-Wan lesson. Second game gives it to you more often, but provides more believable enemies that need to be "whiffle ball bat'd" to death
Man didn’t expect Cere, AT ALL, had expectations and they were shattered instantly😂 Vader had to up his game to get this Jedi! I love seeing that moment when Vader stops playing with his prey and decides it’s time to end it. Cere however was still a badass Also Cal’s crying has brought me to tears again thanks
The minute I saw Cere relax once she pulled that bookshelf onto Vader, I knew she was going to lose. Like seriously, did she really think the Boogeyman of the Empire would be defeated by mere books and burning timber?
Just a reminder guys. Cere isn't someone you should sleep on, she was literally a Jedi master before order 66 thats why she was able to fight Vader for so long. Vader obviously still won but she gave him a tough fight. I personally love this scene.
It is when those Jedi masters are older and haven’t picked up their lightsabers in years. Fear makes a Jedi weak, Cere is not afraid in this fight. Toying with your opponents is a fucking horrible idea and Vader never learns his lesson every time and keeps getting hurt because of it. Care has had five years to train and re-sharpen her skills. Vader is not god no matter how much his simps want him to be. Vader is a broken man barely alive in a cold metal suit. He uses his pain and anger and it makes him a terrifying threat, but not unstoppable. We all knew Cere didn’t have any hope of winning the fight. I don’t think she did either. But it is damn impressive and speaks to her skill as a Jedi that she wounded the beast.
@@jakebr-y1b It's just woke trash, they had to make her black so she could be brave and independent fighting the evil middle-age white dude. She's a weak loser, and annoying.
I honestly didn't see Bode's betrayal or Cordova's death coming. But the moment I saw Vader, I knew without doubt Cere wasn't making it out of this. There was no other way it could have gone. That being said, she certainly made him work for it.
How did u not see that coming that was obvious! Guy motivated by family fights for nothing else! They basically ripped off Han Solo bud made him a little darker and edgier.
For those asking why reva survived and cere didn’t. It’s quite easily explained in episode and in movie… ‘revenge does wonders for the will to live don’t you think?’ ‘The dark side is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be… unnatural’ Finally… maul was literally cut in half and survived off of his hate and will for revenge. It’s literally a darkside power. Also finally… qui gon also dies from this type of wound…
I really like how Vader had to lean on the shelf to pull himself up. I sometimes forget that under that suit is still just a man. That moment reminds us that sure Vader is strong but he’s a man.
I think knowing he had to kill Cere affected his will too. He wanted to break her. Not kill her. Cere jumped in blind though. Vader had to defend himself.
Part of this makes me feel like a sekiro approach would be better for a Star Wars game, that way the lightsaber is as deadly as one might expect whilst still having super dynamic fights
Im very sure that the health bar isn’t actually Vaders health but rather how much patience he has left
This legit made me crack up hahaha
So like Kiryu in LoD7?
that is valid
This is like Reva fight, but he extend the duration a bit lol
Exactly ..
I like how Vader just stumbles away at the end. No taunt, no final blow. It's like he's finished a hard work shift and just wants to leave.
Vaders daily 9-5 jedi
I wasn't even supposed to be here today!
Just like him and Ashoka’s duel
He was wounded as his suit was literally melting. I don’t blame him.
I think there was an element of respect to it, to be honest.
"It was delusion to think that your actions had any effect,"
Ironically, what I love the most about Vader isn't his fighting. It's his dialogue. His wit, his strategy. His mind basically.
I mean Anakins master was Obi-Wan what do you think
Anakin was a master at trash talk and it stayed with him as Vader
Not irony but I agree.
I loved how Obi kept two steps ahead of him however. At least after their first rematch, Obi got lucky there.
@@NunyaB1sthat’s what I call poor writing lol they always crap on Vader
George Lucas knocked it out of the park with Vader's personality, combat style, and appearance.
It's all timeless.
Even his lightsaber fighting. It's been noted in canon that Vader had to change his lightsaber fighting style after Mustafar and his transformation into a mostly mechanical cyborg, because of the hindrance to his physical mobility due to the suit being rather restrictive. You'll notice Anakin was very agile and his fighting reflected that, but with the mech suit he had to adapt to more of a brawler style because the range of motion in his body was severely limited compared to pre-Mustafar Anakin. It's awesome they fit that detail in so well with the games while still showing the Chosen One's formidable power over the force, which in my opinion compensates for the lack of mobility 100%. Just imagine what damage Vader with a fully intact, non-mechanical body could do
@@treybowers154 Full intact body, basically yoda then ngl
@@treybowers154Isn't it canon to Disney that Palpatine gave Anakin a lackluster suit to make it easier to control him?
@@GMP1isReal I believe so, I've heard that somewhere else before but never checked to be sure but it makes the most sense to me, especially seeing the level of technology the empire has at its disposal in the newer shows and movies I would say Vader's obsolete suit was intentional. Not only does it make perfect sense for Palps to do that, it also serves to magnify Vader's suffering on all levels. I mean dude imagine being literally ripped limb from limb, set on fire, then saved from th brink of death to immediately undergo massive surgery, no painkillers or anesthesia, that leaves you crammed into a clunky metallic suit, rods and tubes jabbed into your ribs and other orifices to make you breathe and go peepeepoopoo without dying in the process, literally encased in a barely functioning contraption. That would be horrific, leads to believe the suffering was intentional to make Vader more willing to comply in order to seek a meaningful end to the pain. I feel for Vader and always have, that guy had it rough.
@@butchersaxe1768 far more than yoda. he would be the peak of everything. No one could stand a chance against him
alot of people seem to forget why Darth Vader is the most feared, he is the most trained living jedi honed by Jedi masters, tempered by war and quenched in Sith... He only lost to Luke because he didnt want to kill his son.
The thing is a living avatar, not only of the Dark Side, but also the will of the Force as a whole to restore balance. Vader is the reset button, and all other Jedi and Sith are simply boot instances.
I thought he also lost to the high ground
he's the chosen one
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Luke 100% bested Vader wdym? It was only until the end when Vader truly saw his son dying that he sacrificed himself, Luke did tap into the dark side and that helped but it’s been stated on multiple occasions that at the end of RotJ Luke had surpassed Vader.
Both of these games can be resumed in the words
"Suddenly, Vader"
To be fair, it's during Vaders prime hunting years
Vader is invincible - unless you're a videogame character, in that case he is made of paper. Just ask Starkiller...
Somehow, Vader returned
i would have called this clever if this wasnt posted everywhere since starkiller was around
@@bigbangrafa8435 Vader in Fallen Order disagrees with that statement
Man I love how Vader always takes fights seriously when he gets hurt. Here and when Luke wounded his shoulder. Once he actually starts trying its game over.
It's always his other hand. When he starts two-handing his saber, shit's about to go down.
He’s like that one sweaty friend who goes full tryhard after he loses the game one time
Until Luke went apeshit on him in ROTJ
@@queencancerous5332I think the canon says vader was holding back against luke in rotj, luke even says in the fight he senses conflict
@@brandonjade2146
No, the canon says they were equals by ROTJ
Its crazy to think about how Vader completely turned his fighting style around.
Anakin used to use his freedom of movement and strength to overwhelm and oppress his foes.
Vader simply walks towards you his movement is limited, but the strength is still there. Your attacks will be blocked or counterspelled with force push. His attacks will come crashing down upon you relentlessly like a rockslide.
You can't outrange or outmaneuver him because he can just put you where he wants and continue his assault.
Both fighting styles have one thing in common. He is always in control of the fight.
This reminded me of fighting against young fencers - teenagers and early 20's - and how much their speed and aggressiveness impacts a duel. Compared to that when you have older fencers with less mobility but much more experience and skill, precise movements and full control of the duel. Yes, recklessness of youth can be difficult to deal with, but a master against whom nothing you try works, is just terrifying. That's just my personal experience based on sabre fencing.
Counterspelled? This isn’t magic the gathering 😂
He learned much from his duels against Dooku.
@@Flamma_Dreemurrjedi and basically space monks and sith are pretty much space wizards
I love the end shot of Vader just limping out. For any other person, it would've been a near death experience that would've changed their lives but for Vader, it's just another miserable Monday (and he looks kinda pissed that the fight got to that point lol).
I mean, you can't see his face beneath that mask. For all we know he could also be absolutely shell-shocked since this was a pretty close call he probably did not expect.
@@Exodon2020 true
@Exodon2020 I mean when you're not at full power it makes sense
They literally stole that scene from Rebels, and made it worse.
@@birdlaw1019 what scene?
I love how you can tell Darth Vader wasn't using his full power in most of these scenes. It's so obvious that lore-wise, most of the damage he took came form the debris.
Ik
Yep he was playing with his food
He definitely was. Forgetting that being mostly machine seriously limited his force abilities?
The only reason he was in that shape. Still made him look like an absolute badass
Oh he was using his power but I like to think that he was a little scared and out of balance by Cere's composure and "i am stronger than you, you got no chance" attitude. He even nervously looked around when she pull that lever, like she was trying to cut his escape route similar like he did to separatist leaders when he was hunting them. And she almost won, Vader was starting loosing this fight, he was wounded and she was fine, his tactic obviously wasn't working until the point when Cere lost her patience and blindfully rushed on him and he used her mistake perfectly.
To be fair, fighting Vader solo and making him limp away is a lot more than most could manage.
Also she bought him 2 weeks in a Bacta, and he also fights Kenobi in the same year
More than Rey could manage.
@@MaloneHart08 oh here comes the Rey lovers, guys not everything is about the sequels, be chill, it's not like JJ Abrams fucked your wife
@@scottwillian2120 we don’t know if this was after Kenobi or before Kenobi tho
He wasnt trying
I love that Vader just turns up kills one of the main characters and leaves and no one cares because that’s just so in character for him😂
Walks in, casually kills yet another jedi, walks away without saying a word.
What a freaking boss lmao
Come
Kill the master
Refuse to elaborate
Leave
Well, he is the main character of the SW universe…
@@anakinvader9120 Also how Vader walks in like "I was called here on overtime" - "Nice place you have here, sorry to ruin it" and then when she's defeated he just walks away without a word, probably thinking "That's it for today, time for my Bacta bath"
Think I’d like it more if that actually happened. Or maybe if I’d played the game. Feel like it should have ended more one-sided.
To quote the man himself to an extent, Cere died braver than most.
Ezra Bridger, take notes and write this down.
What do the ideals matter if those who hold them die?
What do the ideals matter if those who hold them die?
LMFAOOOOO
The fact that he didn't brutalized her in the end, instead just walked away. makes me think that he respected her as an worthy enough opponent.
No matter how many times I hear it, the sound Darth Vader makes when he breathes always sends chills down my spine
Imagine you being hired to steal something for a high ranking imperial officer in a remote planet with minimal imperial/rebel activity only to hear the iconic breath behind the only entrance you entered in,,, 💀💀💀💀
@@GILGAMASK5677 I’d be like “ha ha, I’m in danger”
It's okay. I'll get you a SOY latte to make it all better!
I think when they designed Vader that Vader was meant to sound chilling and haunting cause they wanted to make a character that we as fans would fear for years to come that even the sound of his voice or his breathing would scare us to no end cause we know Vader is unkillable
I wonder if Anakin would still be this feared if he never burned/lost to Obi Wan.
The way Vader acted when he defeated her was so Samurai. He knew she was going to die and there’s no need to make it more brutal
Also Vader doesn't really feel good about anything anymore. He won. He doesn't feel any better. It's just another week in a bacta tank with his memories to keep him company.
@@dustinjones7458 Is vader perpetually miserable?
@@hidan407 Pretty much. He's painfully lonely. His only connection is an evil old man who'd kill him if he showed weakness, and he'd do likewise if he could. He's not just in pain...he lives in it purposely, to draw strength from the dark side.
The closest he comes to normality is leading his troops (it's said he has excellent rapport and respect from his stormtroopers) and fighting on the front line. Challenging himself. But like any high, it fades once the fight is over.
@@dustinjones7458 So he constantly fights cause thats the only thing that lets him feel again 🤔 Jesus christ someone give Vader a hug. Maybe anakin will come out again.
I wish Vader was able to talk to Padme's ghost or something to help him live again before meeting luke
@@hidan407 "Someone give Vader a hug" Legit the plot of Return of the Jedi 😂. It was dependent on Luke tho. Ashoka and Obi Wan both tried and failed to get through to him. They both knocked half the mask off, while Luke was the only one able to fully get through to his father.
I love how whenever Vader uses the Force, it sounds like reality itself is warping under the strain - like he's not so much _using_ the Force as he is *abusing it* and bending it to his will.
The force to me almost sounds like whispers. Like all the living things that make it up.
@@Jacy-dx6dxthat’s the medaclorion bacteria I think but it’s the only logical explanation I could come up with
He is bending it to his will
There is also the fact that cybernetic implants make it harder to use the Force. It's been stated in various bits of media that since the Force moves through living things, mechanical prothesis' interfere with tapping into it. Despite this, Vader is still one of the most powerful wielders of the Force. The idea that he's using brute force to compensate because he's lost so much fine control and ease of connection fits extremely well.
He’s threatening to take away the Midichlorian’s rations if they don’t book it right damn now.
I think people also forget that one of Vader’s favorite tactics is to make Jedi afraid. Because fear imbalances them. Cere let go of fear so she had her full potential on hand. Add to that Vader’s incessant need to play with his food and this fight checks out.
Power and skill are only 1/3 of the equation for force users. Lack of inner conflict that conflicts with whatever side you’re using is also crucial, otherwise you’re nerfing yourself.
Agreed Vader was messing with her in the last game because he knew he was in control of the situation so he wanted her to use anger against him and lead her to the dark side.
True although u got a valid point vader is way too tanky even strong jedi masters not named obi wan had trouble fighting him ans most died too easily so yes he can be a bit too overconfident when he fights which leads to his opponents hitting him a few times but hes always been stronger tham everyone else even obi wan had to work hard and smart to beat him in terms of pure strength and afiinity with the force vader is too unstoppable only reason hes take a few hits from some of his fights was cuz he played too much with his enemies instead of out right going for the kill vader is the least nerfed person in star wars even if he doesnt take his battles seriously tho 🤦🏾🤦🏾
You can kinda of see Anakin and Vader favor Goku mentality. It's not really about toying with his food it's about testing his skill and challenging himself with a worthy opponent. However, just like Goku weakness similar to Vader he will let his gaurd down it's his arrogance as a fighter that leaves him in tough situations that is the reason Obi Wan bested him twice really three times but will leave TNH out of it.
@@TheJoseGarcia325 Facts
exactly, Vader lost to Luke not bc Luke was stonger, but bc Vader was unbalanced by conflict inside him.
I liked how humanly vader walked vs the way he entered
Lol yeah, he was like "yup, we're done here"
"I'm getting too old for this shit"
@@Saulgoodman67677 "Oops thought here's Obi Wan's whereabouts."
@@Saulgoodman67677 😂😂😂😂😂😂
vader be like: I am gonna pretend i wasnt damage, now i have to get healed before the emporere finds out.... he will kill me for being that damaged...
Cere’s come a long way from the first game.
From being flicked away like an insect to putting up one hell of a fight.
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Cry about it😉
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021????
To be fair she was corrupted by anger.
@@RulerOfYore Cope
I mean, technically most of the fight is done by the player
I love how Vader fights it’s just so overwhelming. It’s impossible to block his attacks, they’re too strong. You can’t counter, he’s too strong. You can’t get too close because he’s an amazing duelist, you can’t get away because he’ll just pull you back to him. Vader is damn near unstoppable, cere should have had some sand
or some high ground lol
Cere and Cal would've ripped his butthole open together. She already damn near won. Game of inches.
Vader's attacks can be blocked, or she would be dead long ago.
Shows what a chad Obi-Wan is, he managed to beat the dude twice.
@@SovComradebut still darth vadar solos
I think the new Canon has done a good job portraying Vader as an unstoppable force. He's always out of everyone else's (save Obi-Wan's) league, and those who do manage to best him typically don't survive a rematch. I love the way Vader's "boss fights" play out. In Fallen Order, he has no health, a not-so-subtle indicator that you're not supposed to fight him, but run. Here, although he has a health bar now, you never really deplete it all the way, showing that while Cere had a better chance than Cal, she was never going to win. The main reason she put up as good of a fight as she did was because Vader was toying with her until the debris damaged his suit.
Damnit. Palpy will not like hearing about this.
This is tge second time I burnt my suit this week
I doubt Vader was toying around. You seen how he walked away from the fight.
@@elliottblair31 He’s saying he was toying with her until the debris damaged his suit. When he moves her lightsaber away with the force, he stood there with his lightsaber just staring, clearly messing around. Then, when he realizes that he’s messed around too much, Cere dies.
@@elliottblair31 He played around and got caught off guard is what they meant, the debris hurt like hell, he stopped messing around there.
Facts. Obi-Wan is one of my favorites, however it's Vader's inner conflict that always allows obi wan to win
Vader being able to effortlessly hold back a lightsaber with the force is so badass
He's *THE FORCE*
@@wyslanniknewworldorder9525no..
@@FlowersForYourGraveHe's the representation of the force. There was an imbalance in the force and he corrected it just like the prophecy stated.
@@Drew_2152 Yes, but Vader/Anakin is not THE Force. Was he one of the greatest force wielders of his time? Yes. He brought balance to the force because the Jedi were so overwhelmingly powerful at the time that the dark side needed to levelled out. Just like when Anakin/Vader recreated the imbalance by destroying nearly every jedi and Luke came about and was 10x stronger than Vader. They are what the Force sends out to balance it, but they are not the force itself.
@@WyrdLustI'm pretty sure they meant that he is so good at the force he practically is the force
Holy shit did anyone else notice that homage to the Vader x Obi-Wan fight from A New Hope at 2:28? The way they hold their sabers, lightly flicking at the other, testing their guard, looking for an opportunity to strike, like a real sword fight. Absolutely incredible.
Instantly took a screenshot as soon as it came on to my screen 😂
also Cere's leap attack on Vader at the end mirrored the one with Anakin and Obi Wan in ROTS, both of them made the same mistake.
Yes I noticed it
I sure did brother.
@@benkraze3103 Exactly. Vader was waiting for exactly that point. The rest is a show where he lets himself be a target. To make Cere more reckless.
I think they really did a good job with conveying vader's power through the gameplay. When you switch to Cere you realise how much more powerful she is than Cal, you can cut through enemies much more easily, you can take on so many more at a time. And then you encounter Vader and he is still the most difficult boss fight you've come up against.
Your comment makes a lot of sense though.
Nah, my first playthrough was on grand master and was really disappointed Vader was almost the easiest boss fight in the game.
@@antonioc.5778 Easiest? Xd
Cere became a Jedi Knight and even had a Padawan in the days of the Clone Wars. Cal had just started as a Padawan when Order 66 happened.
the two space frogs were much more difficult
You can actually see Vader moving slightly away from that last attack. And the tactic he used was a classic hero's tactic. Making his opponent lunge right into his blade. That tactic is used to show that the villain killed themselves rather than the hero's doing. And Vader used just to show Cere fighting Vader in the first place was a death sentence.
That is an incredibly astute observation! "the tactic he used was a classic hero's tactic. Making his opponent lunge right into his blade. That tactic is used to show that the villain killed themselves rather than the hero's doing". I believe in addition to that, another comparison would be along the lines of villains drinking milk to appear deceivingly innocent in appearance (babies drink milk) which makes them more insidious. By killing her in a "hero way" it's similar to drinking milk. Evil in the form of ironic mockery at it's finest.
@@bobmcham5192or just pointing out Vader isn't evil. He's supposed to be a non-sadistic sociopath, AKA not a psychopath
@@AsAWhiteManMarriedToALatina I would agree with you on that, at least on the greater perspective of Vader (in common terms). When I said "evil" it was in reference to what the average person colloquially refers to as evil. The average person generally doesn't possess the social intelligence required to even begin accurately assessing an "evil" person's mind, which is also why sociopaths (and just about anything these days if we're being honest) is labeled as "evil". -Due to a lack of true sympathy.
In my opinion, Vader is more akin to a "dark empath" as I believe any strong user of the dark side is, as they rely on negative emotions (primarily of others) in order to achieve their power. Vader is famous for hating himself more than anyone, after all.
That's what makes Star Wars so grand, it forces people to sympathize with all involved in the story, rather than being just another "black and white/close minded" fairy tale.
@@bobmcham5192Force jiujitsu by the sounds of it? Excellent analysis. 🔥 My thoughts are that Evil is that which cannot be grasped or consumed by another's understanding, try as one may. The use of the label itself defines a lack of knowledge in the wielder as much as defines any moral deed in the accused. If we would look closely, we would see that much in this plane exists in spite of the "Evil" of material existence.
It also emphasizes something you see in his lightsaber strikes - no wasted movement. It sort of reveals a truth the game hides, which is that he could have killed her at any point. But that's not the job. It's not just Kill the Jedi. It's kill their hope. Break the faith. He keeps looking for things to use to dig at Cere, and there's nothing - except her absolute conviction that she has to kill him, has to win. If she stops it here, even if she dies, it's worth it.
He could have *taken* the thrust to the gut and lived through it while killing her, because for him, it's all infinitely repairable. It's just more machine parts.
But He denies her that. He moves just the exact amount necessary right as she finds hope, and then he kills *that.* No beheading stroke, no stab through the heart to finish the job. Just lets her fall to her knees knowing she's failed.
That's when he leaves. That's when the jobs done.
What a perfect villain.
Couple things Cere had going for her here; She knew what she was up against, most jedi who dealt with Vader met their end the first fight.
She had honed her skills following Fallen Order and regained her sense of self control, she had no fear, nothing mentally for Vader to pick apart.
All of that, and it still wasnt enough to beat him.
It shows that, despite the fact one of Vader's strongest points is fear and intimidation, he IS still Anakin Skywalker and has the skills to easily back up that intimidation factor.
Arguably she did best him at the limit of her Jedi powers...but going for the killing blow was for selfish reasons. Not that it wouldn't have been justified...it's just what she wanted, not the force. She wasn't selfless enough to make that strike...or perhaps the will of the force was that it should not be done. In any case it was a fatal mistake.
also Vader was playing with his food until he got bit too co.fortable playing with it, so after debris damaging his suit he became little more serious
She is/was a Jedi Master before the order fell.
That lunge wasn't the smartest move at all. She practically impaled herself
What a line. "It's foolish to think your actions had any consequence"
I always love when Vader slow walks and lumbers, you think "Oh he's all clunky and stiff" then suddenly just unleashes a barrage of deadly center mass targeted blows that physically send you staggering back and disorientated when blocked. He doesn't have to be fast, he just has to stop you being fast.
Vader: "oh your fast huh? well not anymore!"
“Oh he’s all clunky and stiff, this should be easy enough”
*ten seconds later*
“Oh yeah he’s Darth motherfuckin Vader. Whoops.”
I feel like Vader not saying _anything_ as you’re dying on the floor from at least one stab or slash wound is one of the highest complements you can receive in Star Wars, tbh
A good duel
@@sadsworth4605She shouldn't have jumped right into his lightsaber, though.
He's not too much of a compliment giver, more like a lover for mind games
@@redacted2275 Well… You know Vader moved it in her path right, she didn’t jump into it. And also caught her arm.
The way they make Vader seem so powerful and invincible, I love the fact that the only Jedi who seemingly can beat him going all out is obi wan. He can kill everyone else and destroy who anakin was but he cannot beat the last remnant of anakins past in his old master
And Luke
He's also at a huge handicap in terms of raw force power since he's missing his arms and legs. He'd be a lot more powerful if he still had those.
@@danya-kz1wi Luke is his boy. He was clearly going very easy on him. 🥺 He didn't really want to hurt him, if you compare all the other displays of his strenght - movies, series, comics, games - to that fight in RotJ.
@@bl_iss That's also the tech limitations of the era. Word of God wise? Luke was as strong as Vader in that fight, although less experienced (and Vader had doubts in that fight, so he wasn't at his strongest). That same Vader would have wrecked anyone not called Yoda or Obi Wan.
He can destroy anyone tbh except obi wan. Because of his inner feelings for obi wan. As a brother. As a master. As friend. His feeling didn't let him kill obi wan.
She definitely did better against Vader than like 90% of the other Jedi he hunted down
Only to pretty much take herself out in the end
@@LaneyTheOnejust bcs vaders plot armor.
Like she literally trained what 2 years specifically to fight him and she still lost
@@King-eg2zl And other jedi he fought after order 66 even in Legenda continued to trained for decades just to lose your point?
@@6PathsGohanOne of Vaders winning strategies is shock and awe. Only a handful of Jedi if any ever succeeded the first meeting. Its very different to train to beat someone you faced before than to "train" without Aim or focus.
-Shows up
-Kills a member of the main cast
-Refuses to elaborate further
Legend.
4:52 Vader at the end was like: “let’s pretend that didn’t happen alright” 🚶🏽♂️
I think a better version of this fight would be if at the halfway mark, Vader takes the fight seriously like in Empire and the player is suddenly playing as Vader.
That would’ve been amazing
You get to play a fully kitted out Vader but only for less than five minutes, the video game equivalent of edging.
@@biiyen8458 like the first level of force unleashed 1
@Bii Yén Meh rather play as the emperor
Yea my guess is they didn’t want the player to have to kill Cere
6:06 never thought I’d see cal cry in this game, truly heartbreaking. They were good partners!
Looks like he's smiling
@@typicalfiend4492 i thought i Was the Only One who saw that 😂
@The-All-Father Jerome from gotham slowly breaking out of him, lmao. But yes it looked like he was laughing lol
@@typicalfiend4492 😂😂😂
He looked more like he was laughing than crying. Poor performance.
I love this since it really shows Vaders form of lightsaber combat well. You can see Cere get tired trying to block his blows while also trying to maneuver around. A solid fight scene. For how short it was
4:35 when Cere goes in for the lunge, you can see Vader shift just a bit to the left. Very nice detail.
That was the most badass thing I’ve seen in a longtime. People will get mad about it but I think it was well done. Vader still won and was an absolute badass
It was done perfectly. Cere is an assured Jedi master, Vader is an overconfident and cocky sith (at this point). He didn’t take her seriously at first, and almost paid the price for it.
@Luke Skywalker That's Anakin for you, he knows he's better but he plays too much with his food.
he didn't take her seriously even at the end lol 4:11. It felt like after the debris he switched from 10% to 15% power. He can be aggressive like he did in Kenobi, but I didn't see an ounce of that here tbh.
if he NEVER got hurt he'd be getting kinda stale
I’m glad I’m not the only person that prefers Vader not being this overpowered unstoppable force that can never be harmed by anyone other than the legacy characters. Cere was an awesome character and her send off was also badass.. and Vader is of course as menacing as he always is. Star Wars fans will unfortunately get angry at anything the series does these days.
The fact vader spends basically the whole fight doing the absolute bare minimum and mostly swings with one hand shows he couldn't care any less about Cere. He limps from the impact of having a section dropped on him but still walks away less like it was a hard fight and more like "Alright. That's done. Onto the next assignment." He didn't even give her a speech or really taunt her during the fight. Really gives the "For you it was the worst day of your life, for me it was tuesday" vibe
“I’m not even 40 yet and I’m too old for this shit…”
@@thatkidwiththehoodie Vader is peak "I hate my job" *goes to work anyway* vibes lol
It's incredible that Vader is almost killed and his fanboys treat it as if he beat her up, he literally didn't die by luck
To make lightsaber battles more realistic in video games, instead of hitting your opponent when you "strike" them, you cause them to perform a desperation "auto-block" when you register a hit. This uses up some of their auto-block gauge. The auto-block gauge is effectively a health bar, and when you lose it the next strike actually hits your body and kills you.
Bro invented sekiro
That's exactly how it worked in Jedi Knight games. There was no "blocking", your lightsabers either collided and no one took damage, or they didn't and someone got dismembered.
This mission was 10/10 for me. 2 Shocking reveals by Bode and the fear of Cal's death just leading up to the excitement of hearing Vader's breathing.
I agree. I had To stop playing for rest of the Day To process what just happened. Bodes betrayal, Cordovas death, reveal Bode is a Jedi, Vader and Ceres death just left me speechles. Easily Best moment from this game
>Tons of visual jankiness (sudden calm stances between cuts, Cal's crying face, etc)
>You have to play as that ugly lady that's in every game
>You deal enough damage to Darth Vader to make him limp away
First one handled it better
@@PreeSpunkyk
The change in audio and visuals when she was dying was spot on. It's as if you can feel her passing on as a jedi. Really hit with headphones.
This fight pretty much showed that Cere was more powerful than we imagine she'd be
We already had an idea in the final level of Fallen Order when she took on 4 Purge Troopers with ease and how she managed to keep up with Vader for only a tiny bit
Here she managed well on her own against Vader, even to the point of making him breathe heavily which indicates that Vader is having trouble fighting or he has been damaged incredibly during the fight, either way Cere gave him a good fight, so he gave her a quick but honorable death
vader was literally toying with her, i dont think he saw this as a good fight. it was just an errand he had to run. he tends to acknowledge good fights while he’s having them if youve read the books/comics. all he said to cere was “youve grown stronger” which isnt even really a compliment it was just an observation. he still easily defeated her
@@mapoweyhe’s on the wall limping as he walks away please stop fucking glazing
@@oulo5019 Because his suit got damaged? Damaging his suit is kind of a common occurrence
@mapowey7214 if you actually read the books and comics you'd know that if Vader actually was playing with her, he'd always get a last word in before striking the killing blow. Here, he literally limps away from the fight, having win, but keeping completely silent. Cere had his utmost respect as a combatant. And let's not forget that the canonical reason Vader is so effective as a jedi slayer is because there are very few jedis that don't fear him. The moment they show fear, Vader feeds on it and uses it against them. There are reportedly jedi masters who have beaten or forced Vader to submit and in every case, those jedi did not fear Vader.
@trackert3358 Not discrediting, just making an observation. Dark side user gain power from pain, Vader knows and usually acts recklessly in order tu suffer damage, after all he's pretty much a cyborg that can be fixed any time
Cere: I won.
Vader: In your dreams. Return of the Jedi will take place 13 years later.
I feel like this hasn’t been spoken about enough, but can anyone else hear how much pain Cal was going through? That sounded like a genuine cry of sadness rather than anger when his master died. He just lost one of the people who brought him back up.
if only it was real.
I remember the actress who played Cere talked about feeling his actual tears fall on her face when they did the scene and how powerful that moment was for them to capture
@@tooslow4065stfu with that lame shi, real or not , ppl can still feel a way about the acting, ironic how you’re here watching something that ain’t real tho huh😂?
@@tooslow4065and it was real, they had to act it out , tried to sound smart did ya, stfu
2:21 you could really see Vader's strength here. The way Cere tries to block him only for his lightsaber to not only break her guard but also knock her shows how strong Vader really was in his prime
I wouldn’t call that his prime
This is FAR from Vader's prime. Look into the mechanics of his suit, there are videos here on UA-cam detailing just how inefficient and restrictive Vader's suit really is, and how much Anakin's battle with Obi-wan on Mustafar actually crippled his power. Had Anakin won that battle against Obi-wan maybe we could have seen a true "prime" Vader. But it's amazing that even in his severely crippled state he was able to become such a dominant force throughout the star wars universe. Also I'd like to add that at the end of the fight with Cere you could definitely hear a disruption in Vader's classic breathing due to the damage to his suit's breathing apparatus. Awesome little subtle detail I found more appreciation for than I probably should have
@@Chi11monger nahh man Anakin was already Vader when he gave to the dark side and committed a school...stabbing? He killed the younglings. I'd say prime Vader was the one fighting Obi-wan on Mustafar, he had already given himself to the dark and was mostly intact aside from a robotic hand. After the events of Mustafar and the emperor got him setup with the iconic suit, he became what I personally consider the crippled Vader. Still, to have such immense power while being literally half alive is fucking badass
@@treybowers154he lost that fight because of a type of drug persay the dark side is like adrenaline where you feel like a rush and thrive in a moment while the light side is like a seditive to where you slowly numb yourself to important things Vader in his fight against obi-wan was Arrogant and full of adrenaline like a player with Protag syndrome
It’s amazing writing that he wasn’t trying and you can tell. He was mocking her by throwing the archives at her. But a small detail that was beautiful is after the first phase he switches from one hand combat to on fire with two hands, and getting more angry. He’s bested by Cere to which his longer lightsaber bests her. Absolutely brilliant writing
I believe he was definitely trying at the end when Cere upped her aggressiveness
@@fryingpanman1250which is fair considering once the jedi lose fear, only then can they properly have vader fight them seriously
Tbh I am not a fan of how they made Vader limp out at the end. But that's it, the rest of the fight was cool and although my Vader fanboy side of me is screaming that Vader could clap her no to little diff, you do make a point. Only once a Jedi loses his fear of Vader will they ever become strong enough for him to try.
@@dungeonmaster7423 thing with Jedi’s is they only beat sith because they aren’t rash with their anger. All the sith use their anger to win. But Jedi use tactics and their surroundings to beat the sith. Cere had the adrenaline for protecting the rebellion, she’d learnt from the archives and a Jedi Grandmaster but she also had unique abilities which Vader underestimated. Yh I agree he shouldn’t have limped out, but it showed the Anakin in him. His need for victory. He won the fight so Anakin picks Vader up. But Vader is constantly pushing himself and challenging himself to become the greatest sith. That might even mean he lays off the aggression a bit to learn. Or in his arrogance, and lack of care, dies at the guilt of padme’s death
@@dungeonmaster7423 but Yh Cere had no fear, but her anger at the end put her death early
Let’s be real. The only reason he was even limping is because a main character’s death in a game can’t feel pointless
There has to be some godly intervention as to why darth vader has no bad screen time, everything the character appears in absolutley fantastic!
kenobi was shit
He was pretty dumb in Kenobi. His first bad appearance.
@@kylescott6608 I quite liked it, and you have to consider he's not been in his suit for long. It's made to inconvenience him and keep him angry
@@StalwartShinobi kenobi is set 10 years after rots. At that point he is no longer impulsive as he was as anakin. This has nothing to do with him not being used to it. It's been ten years, it's just the writers not giving a shit. Stop making excuses for them. He still had some cool shit in the show tho
I think his rarity is part of the mystique Directors and developers like to implement. Even in the original trilogy he didn’t have all that much screen time
Cal may have grown beard and may have matured over the years, but his spirit is still as light as his younger days. Its ok buddy, there's nothing you could've done. It's on him, not you.
Wha? Did we play the same game? His spirit is not as light as it was when he was younger, that was kinda the point of the ending. Embracing the darkside, shooting Bode twice, slaughtering people when chasing Bode.
Next game if we get one, he will be a very different character.
@@PolarBone that’s true
95% of the damage Vader received in this fight was from the bookshelf and debris dropped on him. Still, the fact that Cere found an opening like that and actually backed Vader for even a slim second (at best) is impressive.
Considering how he got out, Cere, even if she lost and she would have lost even of Vader didn't have plot armour, managed to do more damage to him than 99.99% of the entire SW galaxy could ever hope.
I think it also helps her greatly the fact that she was a calm true Jedi in this moment, whereas Vader underestimated her and gave her that opening in the first place.
If Vader took her completely seriously from the get go, then Cere wouldn't have last so long and Vader would have taken so much damage, cause he would either have caught the bookshelf and debris, or he wouldn't have created that opening in the first place.
Vader could hold back the ocean but not a bookshelf.....
@@T1Top It takes concentration to use the force, especially mid-fight, and it looks like she caught him by surprise with that move. Vader is way more powerful, but that doesn’t mean he’s ready to immediately react to every last possible scenario. Especially when he doesn’t seem to be taking it seriously at first like in this fight.
@@oldspice051 He's taking it quite seriously. Doesn't mean he's going to make a fuss and be a try hard. What Vader is doing is LETTING himself be a target. Just like in Fallen Order. He wants Cere to have a taste of that power. The idea is to break her.
Then cere jumps in blind and Vader has to defend himself. It's her mistake. Vader doesn't hate or resent Cere. The situation is what it is. Probably can't face her due to already having killed her sister. It's kind of hard to look someone in the eye after going "I killed your familiy and now I injured you and you're slowly dying". Even Vader isn't that heartless. He's moving away because what else can he do at that point? Stare blankly at Cere while she dies? What would he even say?
Vader, for once, is in a situation where he's not quite sure what else to do. Except move on. Just like with Anakin. Always trying to move forward at least. If he stalled, lingered, froze up and just stared, he'd probably feel incapable. He's only going to stick around and not swing his saber at you if you get him thinking. Cere said nothing (kind of hard too when stabbed). So off he goes. You're weak. You're dying. You know you jumped in blind. That's just how it is.
@@taramaforhaikido7272 considering he didn’t even attempt to block it I don’t know why Cere didn’t aim for the head nobody is surviving a lightsaber to the face lol
Cere is basically Jada Pinkett Smith. Why is she in this?
Vader was 100% trying not to giggle under that bookshelf
She put up more of a fight than most other jedi
She, that pronoun is the reason why
@MrcabooseVG Ahsoka Tano and Padme are also women, is there a problem with that?
Or are they just another woke independent woman?
@@jeansebastian6595 Watch him not respond😂😂
@MrcabooseVG Bruh why do people like you get SO mad when a strong girl shows up?💀💀 Women can't be good fighters anymore? Are only dudes allowed to be on top?
@@QueenMiracle46 Because Darth Vader isn't supposed to be this easy to beat. If you had bothered to pay attention to the lore, you'd know that.
Love how the respirator is damaged and at the end it looks like the killing blow was landed, only to reveal Vader had the upper hand. For a brief moment, they both were equally as close to death. Then Vader slowly rises and his respirator functions normally.
His respirator was still damaged after he got up, he still having difficulty breathing. Well I mean difficulty with the already burnt lungs he has
Cal crying sounds so much more heartbreaking without the music. When I played it he sounded muffled. Man the emotion is raw
Hes a good actor
I love the fact that Vader's breathing remained stable throughout.
Nearly turned into a Starkiller situation where Vader was almost defeated.
Nah if you watch the fight you can see that Vader was stronger than her, the problem is that he was playing with his food and got hit by that falling debris. After that Vader was struggling because of the damage suit and injuries which gave Cere a chance to fight back. Starkiller was just OP from the beginning, the guy is Goku of the Star Wars universe.
@Holyflame fully agree. I don't understand why everyone keeps screaming they ruined him and made him weak. Like no he played around to much with his food like you said. witch has proven to put him in bad situations in the past plus she isn't a padawn she is jedi knight/veteran. Its a different ball game compared to the first one.
@@akeultomo2213 Just weird nerds being weird nerds tbh
@@Brother-Martell yeah honestly
He was simple toying with her until she buried her under the books, then he got fed up.
I loved everything in this fight. The way vader man handles you with the force if you sit too far back and how once he gets burnt his move set completely changes to be 1000x more dangerous had me going ballistic
The fact that this story takes place near the time of Obi Wan show tells us that Vader's pissed he had to fix his suit twice.
@@TAITFM it takes place about 4-5 years after Kenobi, the first game is just about the same time
@@cowboypete2201 no. The TV series "Obi-wan Kenobi" takes place 10 years after the rise of the Empire, therefore in the same year of the events happened in this videogame. The Hidden Path is a strong connection.
@@TAITFM he lost on obi wan. it's just that kenobi decided to spare him. he was, at that point, at kenobi's mercy.
this, however, vader is a clear winner.
@@riverpb5250 Vader was still standing his ground. He could have still fought if he wanted too. Tne Obi Won walks away. Again. Ever the coward. This hurts Vader more then any saber strike. Vader doesn't want Obi Won to "die". Vader wants Obi Won to have more courage. It helps contrast Obi Won's death in the older movies. He probably got tired of running away. Vader poking the robes as if he can't believe what had happened. The coward standing his ground at last.
It's clever plot writing here.
I know your comment was 11 months ago, but I want to remind you that when Vader was still on the ground, Obi Wan, instead of killing him right away, he literally steps away and lets Vader get up, this makes it clear that Obi Wan won that fight.
For Cere it was one of if not the most important day of her life
For Vader it was a Tuesday
If every Tuesday he gets melted down and nearly dies… Then sure.
But Vader limps away from this fight so… He’ll remember this “Tuesday”
Love the fact that they're using low camera angles, definitely giving us the feeling of being powerless when facing Vader.
Can we all just take a minute and acknowledge how amazing the lightsaber sounds are?
There is something so humanising about seeing Vader picking himself up using the bookshelf. It's comforting in a way
It’s kinda funny watching Darth Vader scoot himself up the wall like that.
Yeah it shows despite how he makes it seem, he is most certainly defeatable, it’s the Emperor who’s essentially untouchable.
I love Vader’s cocky dominating attitude. It’s simple and terrifying. “It is delusion to think your actions have any consequence. The fortress stands. The inquisitorious continues it’s work. And I have come for you.” He’s so sassy! 😄
I'm not sure if anyone noticed this but in the first phase of the fight he goes one-handed meaning he doesn't take the fight seriously but after getting set on fire he goes two handed when he takes the opponent seriously very cool attention to detail for Vader
4:47 I like the way Vader sort of shimmies onto the wall for support and just stumbles away
Yeah I don’t he was happy with how difficult that duel went.
Definitely preferred the first game's version where he's not a boss battle, he's a force of nature horror villain you can only hope to run from.
Vader should be so far above the Force users in this game that he'd crush them without much effort at all.
Yea, I don't get why such a simple and clear lore aspect is ignored by devs, writters and directos
@@simonsalgueiro6217 Personnally, what I would like to see is Darth Vader as a boss, but he is like *immortal*
Like he block every attack, he fight nonchalantly, maybe you can make him lose 5% of is life max and the challenge is to try your best to survive above 2 or 3 minutes haha
@@simonsalgueiro6217 Yeah, well, the new breed of writers seem to think George Lucas was a joke. Years of training under a Jedi Master and practising your skills in real life seems to all be nothing when a female protagonist takes charge. Then you can just do stuff. No need to train, no practice required. You can lift rocks, create a Forcefield around you, fly through space, whatever you want. It's the Marvel age of Star Wars.
he don’t know you lil bro
@@PostSasso atleast cere was a good character and not a cheap character to get more feminist subscribers I actually liked cere and glad she went out the way she did
Vader: (as he staggers away) I'm getting too old for this shit...
I like how at the end Vader doesn’t look hurt, just annoyed
He is literally limping
Yeah totally not hurt at all
Vader d!ck rider try not to be delusional for 10 minutes impossible
Vader is absolutely in pain and fucked up 😂😂
He got fucked up, what you mean?
What makes Darth Vader so hard to kill in the game is that everyone one who plays it loves him.
That and canon wont let you kill him
I love it how Vader just walks away like that. It looks so unnatural of him 😭😭
But, he did just ALMOST die, so... 😭😭
Felt like a John Wick walk.
I loved cere but to say he almost died is a stretch imo
@@cfwoods04 That last blow WOULD've been brutal if Vader were to not grab/ influence her trajectory by using the force. From both of their reactions, it looked like that would've been a killing blow in a normal sith/Jedi duel... UNFORTUNATELY for Cere, Vader is so powerful with the force, normal duel rules just don't apply to him
@@magentaplatinum1430 any hit from a lightsaber has the ability to be lethal, but with the difference between cere and vader in every way fighting wise I highly doubt vader ever had a moment we he thought “oh she almost got me”
@@cfwoods04 you've got a point. btw, isn't Vader's cape lightsaber-deflecting or smth? anyhow, if anything, I think he was playing along all throughout until the very last moment. palpy style twist-flip!! woohahh!
I like how the blade that can cut through anything has no effect on him but a bunch of playstation 1 game cases falling on em makes his breather get funky for a moment
I played on the jedi master difficulty and I love how oppressive and harsh his damage is
It is. You have to constantly attack, and nail those parries everytime, otherwise you are dead.
@@LakiStrikeYeah when I reached the second phase I thought I would be forced to actually learn how to parry. Thankfully there is a way to beat him by just dodging.
4:07 you can just feel that Vader is in another level
Can we please talk about Scott Lawrence’s performance as Vader?? The man has it down to a science sand sounds just like James Earl Jones
In my opinion Matt Sloan is a better Vader voice actor, although he captures the young, rage filled Vader better than James Earl Jones' more older and more experienced Vader
@Juu9do allow people to have there own opinions my guy
They both sound terrible. Should have just used James Earl Jones voice since he gave the rights to disney
@@borris3768they both sound great
Rest in Peace 🙏 🪦 Actor James Earl Jones Pass away 😢age 93 Voice Dark Vader
Can we talk about how effortless vader shifts from lightsaber combat to force combat? Whenever cere had a genuine chance at landing a good blow on him, he just gracefully but briefly extends his hand, and force pushes her back to stop her and then continues his swordplay? It really shows how the aggressiveness of anakin is still there, but in a much more controlled and effectively way
Huge respect for cere, you can see that vader even respected her in a way
Lol no
where?
@@galslovvemeprobably by not slicing her down after stabbing her lol. Or giving credit where he tells her she’s gotten stronger.
did Vader respect Ezra before attempting to decapitating him before Ahsoka intervened? @@manoftheyear5895 Vader was probably getting into her head to get her cocky and eliminate her
@@galslovveme When he said that she has grown stronger.
Not to detract from these games, as awesome as they are, but it really feels like it takes one of the greatest weapons in science fiction and reduces it to all the fun of idly swinging and hitting stuff with a whiffle ball bat (still fun, mind you), when it's not remembering it's a lightsaber and cutting things in half
And animations are not elegant at all.
I mean sadly that's just the compromise they have to make because it's a game and you can't just be one shotting every enemy
@@tingispingis yeah, but the enemies aren't defenseless, you're only a danger to them (with exception to a few force abilities) unless you get close. That can be worked around, smartly. First game sees you losing it, often, leaning on the old Obi-Wan lesson. Second game gives it to you more often, but provides more believable enemies that need to be "whiffle ball bat'd" to death
Disney has no clue when it comes to anything Star Wars
Vader's armour is literally lightsaber resistant, it literally has been shown in live action many times already
I’ve played through the Jedi survivor campaign a couple times and this moment hands down was the most emotional part of the story for me
Vader: “You cant hit me.”
Cere: “Why?”
Vader: “Because im handicapped.”
Cere had a badass last stand, leaving even Vader speechless. Mad respect.
Man didn’t expect Cere, AT ALL, had expectations and they were shattered instantly😂
Vader had to up his game to get this Jedi!
I love seeing that moment when Vader stops playing with his prey and decides it’s time to end it. Cere however was still a badass
Also Cal’s crying has brought me to tears again thanks
Vader's dialogue always makes me smile...😃 So imposing a presence
The minute I saw Cere relax once she pulled that bookshelf onto Vader, I knew she was going to lose. Like seriously, did she really think the Boogeyman of the Empire would be defeated by mere books and burning timber?
@ 3:03 Vader: Oh not this shxt again 😂
Just a reminder guys. Cere isn't someone you should sleep on, she was literally a Jedi master before order 66 thats why she was able to fight Vader for so long. Vader obviously still won but she gave him a tough fight. I personally love this scene.
Vader killed plenty of masters during and after Order 66. It's not a big deal, lol.
It is when those Jedi masters are older and haven’t picked up their lightsabers in years. Fear makes a Jedi weak, Cere is not afraid in this fight. Toying with your opponents is a fucking horrible idea and Vader never learns his lesson every time and keeps getting hurt because of it. Care has had five years to train and re-sharpen her skills. Vader is not god no matter how much his simps want him to be. Vader is a broken man barely alive in a cold metal suit. He uses his pain and anger and it makes him a terrifying threat, but not unstoppable. We all knew Cere didn’t have any hope of winning the fight. I don’t think she did either. But it is damn impressive and speaks to her skill as a Jedi that she wounded the beast.
@@trigger5258 exactly bro
vader killed 11 masters at the same time, this fight is a total wank for cere
@@jakebr-y1b It's just woke trash, they had to make her black so she could be brave and independent fighting the evil middle-age white dude. She's a weak loser, and annoying.
This game actually has better direction and cinematography than most of the franchise's content
I honestly didn't see Bode's betrayal or Cordova's death coming. But the moment I saw Vader, I knew without doubt Cere wasn't making it out of this. There was no other way it could have gone. That being said, she certainly made him work for it.
I was not ready bro I literally choked up crying
Was pissed at Cordovas death but cere really got me she was like the mother he never had
How did u not see that coming that was obvious! Guy motivated by family fights for nothing else! They basically ripped off Han Solo bud made him a little darker and edgier.
I like this, Vader had trouble with a few Jedi masters that he couldn't get inside their head but he always find a way to beat them.
For those asking why reva survived and cere didn’t. It’s quite easily explained in episode and in movie… ‘revenge does wonders for the will to live don’t you think?’
‘The dark side is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be… unnatural’
Finally… maul was literally cut in half and survived off of his hate and will for revenge. It’s literally a darkside power.
Also finally… qui gon also dies from this type of wound…
It’s just bad writing from the Obi Wan show, no need to try and defend it
@@Citizen13 Wasn't it too for Maul then ? XD
@@valou-scaling yeah clone wars is mid
@@Citizen13 Maul got cut in half and survived. Why couldn’t Reva?
@@larryfoulkeofficial8609 Fax
"It is delusion to think your actions have had any consequence."
GOT DAMN!
I really like how Vader had to lean on the shelf to pull himself up. I sometimes forget that under that suit is still just a man. That moment reminds us that sure Vader is strong but he’s a man.
Especially when he’s physically injured his body and skeletal system and not just the robotics.
I think knowing he had to kill Cere affected his will too. He wanted to break her. Not kill her. Cere jumped in blind though. Vader had to defend himself.
3:31 man vader just cant stop getting burned can he ☠
It was like feeling of some PTSD from his side when he got burned. Walking away was full of it.
04:43 when you’ve just had a fight with someone and you both get up injured and call it a draw. 😂
I love that they nailed how strong vader is physically each lightsaber hit sounds like it has so much strength behind it
The rare occasion where Darth Vader needs a health bar
James once again rocked as Vader
that's not J.J.J, it's scott lawrence if it's the same one from fallen order
@@XDAllPwnageStarsXD oh okay sorry
@@XDAllPwnageStarsXD Scott Lawrence does a great job as Vader though
@@botman234langer6 don't be sorry :)
@@Jodacro-it4zz definitely, gives him a more menacing feel
she didnt miss vader grabbed her hand to make it miss, look with more attention, he used her attack in his advantage.
Part of this makes me feel like a sekiro approach would be better for a Star Wars game, that way the lightsaber is as deadly as one might expect whilst still having super dynamic fights