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PS1Digital - The Ultimate PlayStation 1 1080p HDMI Mod | MVG
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- Опубліковано 30 сер 2020
- The PS1Digital is a Native, Direct from the motherboard HDMI Mod for the Sony PlayStation 1, and its incredible - but there are few things you should be aware of. In this episode we take a closer look.
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It's impressive that we always focus on image quality, but the sound from this mod is absolutely beautiful.
And that sound was compressed by youtube, don't forget. Thats amazing stuff!
looks are easy to show audio not
The sound is good, but the 3d still hurts my eyes just like the PS1 always did even when I was a kid. It's the only system that does it too. Even PS1 games on a PS2 are fine. So it's just the PS1. lol
@Sped Racer I think you're talking about bilinear filtering (and even trilinear) where the textures are smoothed out. It certainly looks better (unless it goes too extreme like N64) However doom and quake (which had pixelation before 3d accelerated versions existed) were fine. I think it's because the PS1 gets odd texture distortion which is corrected when you emulate the games or play them on PS2.
@@IngwiePhoenix
you will never, EVER be able to tell which is which between the source audio and youtube's AAC in a blind A/B/X test if they were levelled correctly (cause that would be the most noticeable part of youtube's processing).
UA-cam does literally nothing besides:
- bringing the levels down to its internal "baseline"
- encoding to AAC (which went a long way from mp3 days).
The main feeling of quality that you perceive in the MGS clip comes from stereo mix that people did and a nonexisting noise floor. AAC encode won't mess (much) with any of that.
The output from this is incredible.
It's true, I don't think anything else can be seen better than that.
There's a similar kind of mod coming out for PS2. If that comes out on time, than it would be a great value for money as it could be used for both PS1 and PS2. Great video as always MVG!
what's the name? where can i find it
@@PBA3000 www.psx-place.com/threads/ps2hdmi-internal-mod-board-in-the-works.21896/
@@adityavaibhav4941 thank you
@@adityavaibhav4941 This thing sounds perfect for me. I got a old PS2 that I'm going to softmod soon for modern day use and this'll make it look great on my tv
I'm also waiting
My PS2 has ic problem which needs to be warmed up before it'll display properly
That ps1 intro is so legendary
since this was released 3 minutes ago (At time of this comment was posted), obviously I haven't watched the whole video yet
but I want to say I love all your vids man, keep it up :D
I just watched the video, now I want to get a PS1 and mod it XD
and thanks for the heart!!!
Dude this guy's videos are the fucking BOMB! His videos are the best thing since sliced breead!
“A Hind D ??? Colonel, what’s a Russian gunship doing here ??? “ THAT NEVER GETS OLD :)
What is he actually saying?? All I can hear is "a hind d"
anew742 how come ? On my side it sounds pretty clear. And it has subs on lol. And I literally quoted the exact dialogue.
@@bjoestar9439 Wait he's actually saying "a hind d"? I thought it was a subtitle mistake lol
What does a hind d mean?
@@anew742 A Hind is a Russian helicopter in real life, not something made up for the game. But I assume the joke is "Hind D" sounds like "hiney" and that Snake is talking about butts.
MI-24 Hind is a Russian gunship
The soldering work at 3:03 is legendary. No wonder it looks so good if that kind of work was put into this mod.
its really not that complicated as it looks though.
Pretty easy with some flux and a hot air station 😎
I think you mean "soddering" ;-)
@@kevinherring4631 the funny thing is he's Australian and has an Aussie accent but then pronounces soldering in the weird American way.
Not gonna lie, I'm waiting for something like this for PS2.
If you can get a hold of a launch window ps3 their known for being perfect ps2 hardware level emulation
I use component cables to my 4k TV. Not gonna lie, it's not magically good, but it's still very good nonetheless. My TV handles the PS2 video signals quite well.
Well, there is something in the works
@@jabadahut50 and if you DO decide on that, be sure to send it to a modder or a repair shop to have the inside cleaned and the thermal paste redone. That's the BIGGEST issue for the YLOD: Sony cheaped out on thermal paste and it was complete crap. So over time, the thermal paste gets brittle and doesn't disperse heat as it should. That mixed with years of dust in the console causes overheating.
The creator of this Mod were initially working on a PS2 chip to do the same thing, but decided to do PS1 first. They're picking back up on the PS2 chip right now, and will be doing the OG Xbox afterword
3:37 I heard "Open Source Can Converter" and that will be my new nickname for the OSSC from now on.
I do like to convert all of my cans to open source eventually
OSCC > OSSC
EDIT: I actually did hear "Open Source Can Converter" at 3:57 😂
Whenever your videos are close to the end I feel a subtle sadness, like if a friend is going away or my prefered teacher's class is wrapping up.
Great content as always. I know your thoughts about it, but you would be an amazing full time youtuber hehe
Dang MVG, you're looking sharp as hell with the grey streaks in your beard. Nice.
~taps expecting MVG video~
“oh, looks like it’s being hosted by 1980s Sean Connery... bit weird”
~later~
“tell me more about cheap scanlines, you scotch egg, you”
7:50 pull the plug? think you mean pull the trigger lol
*flatline noise*
Nothing better than watching some MVG while sitting on the shitter after a 12 hour shift
Installed mine this weekend along with X-Station. Waiting on 3D printed tray from Laser Bear Industries to arrive for it to be complete. Gorgeous video and sound. Definitely worth it if you enjoy PS1 gaming. Especially considering how prices for games like “shmups” and rpg’s have skyrocketed. Crazy!!
Always quality content from MVG.
I'd love to see this hooked up to an HD Trinitron. We had a 32" WEGA back in the day that had an HDMI input. Would probably look damn good.
As a CRT enthusiast and Toshiba Theatrewide HD CRT owner, we hardly ever use those. The HDMI to RGB converters in those are DOGSHIT. I see no point to scaling it on an HD CRT, doing a native RGB bypass mod with BNC connectors on the back, and a direct RGB input from the ps1 is optimal in this scenario.
It doesn’t look perfect, But this is how you remember these games looking
>Filters
And sounding. Man, that RE2 music took me way back.
I just use ps1 emulator on laptop hooked to hdmi to TV. Then adjust settings to get a lesser quality more towards original but upscale enough to make it slightly better. Vs just cranking everything up to max and having it not even look original.
MVG gets beard, Techmoan gets beard, hm... I need to check other channels I follow
Hell, I have a beard and I had been shaving my face everyday for basically twenty years now.
The world is falling apart and we have all lowered our standards considerably
Great video MVG.
I also appreciate the flexibility of keeping the OG outputs in a HDMI mod. Eg, the case study of hooking up to a VGA monitor, whilst using the standard multi out for the audio component would be a favourable option for those wanting to make a retro gaming cabinet or something of that nature. 👌
Every video on this channel is super high quality content. Everything is well researched, well tested, and well conveyed. I really appreciate the stuff you put out. Not sure why you don't have a million subs yet.
"old retro consoles and computers" a question i always ask myself when i hear that is what will that mean in 20-30 years? PCs since the late 90s have evolved to a personal setup rather than a "brand" and consoles lately are more computer-like than old ones.
For those who would say "Nah the old consoles will alwyas be considered retro" remember that 80s rock is considered classic rock now....
My guess is that the connectivity requirements for current devices will make them terrible retro stuff.
Since 7th generation consoles(X360, PS3), physical copies are useless when running games off of it. It always tries to reach the central server(Xbox Live, PSN etc.) for updates, which will eventually fall apart and be discontinued in the future. If they don't do anything for offline play in those consoles, their future will be bad.
I don't know anything about the Nintendo consoles though, they may be better off than Microsoft's and Sony's in terms of offline play in the future.
Good comment
I actually consider any non 64 bit PC to be retro at this point. lol
@@proCaylak On PS3 you can skip updates and run the game on disc as-is.
@@Sonyboj maybe I should've said after that generation. still, online services did play a major part in 7th generation consoles.
I had to pause at the Metal Gear Solid audio demonstration. I don't think I've -ever- heard anything that clear out of that game outside of emulation, and even that can be a mixed bag depending on your settings
The digital sound is soo strange, like old movies from vhs or the 80s movies sound, I like it.
You don't know how excited I was when I saw Ehrgeiz on your monitor!
Loving the beard more and more. Cool style my man.
Hating the beard more and more, horrible style my man.
Oh man, definitely one of my favorite systems, with one of the best libraries, of all time! I wish I wasn't such a novice at soldering, I definitely want this mod!
Your content is always high quality, feels like I'm watching better than peak G4TV programming.
Jesus... The audio sold me on this. Incredible!
The main things for me that stand between this and emulation are:
- lag overall
- and the sound lag.
Otherwise the convenience of PS1 emulation and tons of different options just give you sooo much more for your effort, the instant save states could save your time if you have to run, perspective correction creates a beautiful hd impression, and you can always turn all of this off... They even have a latency compensation now and it feels great.
And my IPS is awesome. My eyesight rests when I look at it.
But as a musician I hate the sound lag. It looks and feels so wrong.
So in that regard I would love to play on such a device.
(And GT2 looked just awesome there.)
Thanks for another great review. Greetings from Russia.
Some people dont need all these extra things and just want to play ps1 games without any lag
@@IAm-zo1bo Sure. I feel I've never generalized?
I played a lot of PS1 in my childhood and now just don't have the time to wait for every boot, and for every save, and every cutscene. It's not an NES, you know. I've just played some Rollcage: Stage 2 on Duckstation/Retroarch and omg, did it take me that much faster because I can fast forward the memory card saves and the loading screens. Say what you want, these waits were not there for fun or nostalgia...
Another consideration is a controller. I just loved OG PS1, but these would be hard to find, and even they are not ideal for fingers. The counterfeit ones would be miles worse. Comparing that to my mechanical keyboard... no comparison in terms of my joint health.
I don't know, i played through spyro1 on emulator and it felt pretty responsive, but i also only have a pal ps1 as comparison.
Iam, Retroarch has the “run through” option that makes lag even lower, than on OG consoles
@EMagnificent Unfortunately, especially the sound lag, is there in emulation by design and cannot be avoided even in theory.
You wanna google what a sound buffer is.
Duckstation+Retroarch is an amazing combo, very very small lag, very very playable, but I can definitely tell.
I played rhythm games competitively and I play electronic and real instruments every day. I'm too sensitive to this. I don't make the point that everyone should go and pirsue a lagless solution. But it's definitely a pleasure.
BTW, Retroarch's Runahead for latency reduction works wonders; it's a pity it doesn't work with Duckstation yet, but it does with Nestopia and mednafen. The NES games are a bliss with this stuff.
www.libretro.com/index.php/beetle-psx-dynarec-update-switch-alpha-port-plus-runahead-support-lower-latency-than-original-hardware/
Hope I can get an order in, I cannot wait! Plan to go through the RPG's I never go around too like the Suikoden and Wild Arms series. I have the PSIO but am also looking forward to the Xstation. Might have to get two of these consoles done.
I have a PSONE with a RGB cable from retrogamingcablesUK conected to a framemeister with the exit HDMI conected to an Mclassic and looks the same (or better) as the PS1Digital. I am extremly happy with the framemeister.
Framemeister is a lot more expensive though isn't it?
@@svenbtb It is relative. If you are only going to use it for one console, it is a waste of money. But if you have a decent collection of retro machines it is cheap considering the good results. I have 14 consoles connected to the framemeister, even consoles in which I have HDMI adapters like my Wii, Gamecube and Dreamcast go through the framemeister before going to my TV and the results are amazing. In the case of Gamecube forcing 480p with Swiss, going through an EON MK II, through a framemeister to rescale to 1080p and finally through the Mclassic it is glorious as seen.
The Street Fighter issue looks identical to when you send a 480p signal to a 480i CRT.
I love this solution, but mostly I love your coverage of it. Thanks for the clear and concise review!
Your beard is looking great, man.
total yes!
I didn't even know how badly I wanted this mod until I saw this video. And the sound too!
BTW... epic beard, man! Seriously suits you well!
I hope the OG Xbox implementations are cheaper, otherwise my wife will kill me when I buy one lol.
That new outro is nice, I had no idea you composed/sourced your own music MVG!
HOFFMAN vinyl in shot. Nicely done!
Before he moved out, my neighbor gave me a vintage 2006 Sony Bravia LCD TV. It's from an era when flat-screens still weighed a lot (seriously, this thing is a 40" or so and it weighs 70lb...insane), but it has direct composite input. There's something so satisfying about connecting a Sony Playstation 1 to a Sony TV :)
Holy crap, you weren't shitting when you said soldering skills are needed. I would consider myself a competent solderer, but I don't have hot air or microscopes laying around so I think I will leave to the installing pros listed, that is when the boards are back in stock.
Man just seeing ehrgeiz behind you made me happy. One of the first games I put on my psclassic
What a time to be alive ^^. I bet that Cyclone 10 beast could easily be used to map the entire system
Your channel inspired me to create the PS3 emulation box of my dreams and I'm loving it. Wasn't lucky enough to have the original PS3 with native PS2 support built in so I took matters into my own hands. Cleaned out the dust, re applied thermal paste, put in an SSD, slapped a jailbreak on it and now it can run PS1, PS2, & PSP games perfectly. Recommend patching all the games with a widescreen hack or patching the games to be ran as a PS classic for that nice built in anti aliasing.
9:59 - 👍👏 Keeping the existing AV port = lightgun connectivity for use on CRTs.
It seems very interesting and a testament to the Retro communities dedication to keeping these old consoles alive. However I think I'm going to skip on this for now not only because my PlayStation is a pu 22 so it's not compatible but also I use a scart to HDMI converter and the image is pretty solid so maybe down the line I'll check this out.
One thing worth mentioning is that you lose the physical Serial port with this mod. Not many games used it, but for those which did, you can no longer use the link cable. PS1Digital is introducing a software alternative for the serial link through WiFi, so you can do this if you have two PS1's running PS1Digital nearby.
Would love to hear soundtracks collected with it. It's especially useful for games that make soundtrack on the fly out of samples, like Civilization II, Vagrant Story etc.
I was interested in picking this up, but I need to prioritize both getting a house and a new pc first. But would be so cool to get this, and an xstation, and if someone would make a new custom tiny PSU, preferably GaN, I would like to get them all and also make a custom smaller/thinner than PSone case. Another cool mod would be a Bluetooth or RF mod for each of the controllers similar to NES classic.
Good to hear, keep us posted on those other options! and as always thanks for the upload
Thanks again. You've given some good advice in the past on modifications and emulation. I always like these kind of videos.
I will have to save for this mod but I hope I might it done on one of my ps1/psx.
An Australian that says Soddering! Blasphemy! Mate, you’ve been in the states too long 😂
This + the Piso would be the ultimate PSX unit. As an aside, while Pound cables are not "top of the line", I can say first hand that their current revision Xbox HDMI cable is really good, and their customer service is impressive! I think it would be worth comparing their current cable to the internal solutions in a future video.
I’m honestly surprised people haven’t started selling highly modded ps1 consoles in custom updated enclosures. Imagine a play station. It’s a fancy bead blasted aluminum box with multiple different hidden controller ports, and every type of connection you’d want to use, a slot loading disc drive, and every PlayStation from 1-4 all in one box. I would buy that.
Im actually impressed i didn't know that actually existed, i never seen this clear image with an PS1 !
Wow! That is amazing, because with even with external converters/upscalers the image was terrible! Well done for the awesome mods.
Emulators can go in to 4K 60Fps... if I want a game I can get it in minutes and play at 4K 60Fps. There is no reason to buy an old console even if you mod one to play something in higher resolutions.
While emulators do boast excellent number at times, not all emulators are perfectly compatable with software. Some games need peripherals or special hardware gimmicks that may not work well on an emulator. N64 games are notorious for having problems on emulators which are specific to each game. Also, the performance of some bigger emulators depend on the power of the machine running them. While not a problem for NES and GBA, some people do not have access to hardware that can run a ps2 well.
Having a console ensures your game will work exactly as intended and take advantage of all the hardware provided. Plus, you do not have to worry about dumping your games to play them on an emulator legally.
I'm excited about this mod, and hope that it can be made for the ps2 in the future.
@Nadja 🤔. I’ll stick to emulation and keep getting 4K 60Fps on my 32 inch 4K ASUS monitor...... you can work on soldering old consoles to get a 1080p image resolution 😒🙄.....
Let me just edit this and fully explain something since you talk about builds here, I’m running a 3600 dollar system here, 3950x overclocked at 4.3Ghz, ASUS 2080ti DUEL OC Edition going at 1900 Mz.... have a good time soldering sunshine.........
And here we have Modern Vintage Gamer doing a quick video.....Just before heading of to his local Sean Connery look alike contest.
I love the new intro and outro 🥰
Now if someone can do an SD card mod without it triggering LibCrypt then I'd be a happy man
funny windows movie maker family guy
@KippyKip check out Voultars install video, the xstation is said to support psnee modchip functionality. Last I read the psnee supported antimod games such as Spyro 3.
Being a retro purist can be pricey but options are always a good thing. I'd love to see a comparison between between PS1Digital vs PS3 emulation vs PS1 classic vs a Pi.
Everything I try to Fix/mod with a soldering iron ends up worse and/or in the bin.I will never learn ; ) great vid bud.
Really cool, I'm surprised this wasn't available sooner. Or maybe, this has been known about it just hasn't been in a commercial product?
I’m a biiiiiiig fan of these pure-digital HDMI mods... the only problem is that they sometimes have unintended side effects. For instance, NES HDMI mod alters the original clock speed of the system so that the output frame rate adheres more to the HDMI standard. For that reason I’m not satisfied with the available mod for that particular console :( UltraHDMI for N64 is very good. I don’t know much about the inner workings of this one, but hopefully it’s the same. And I’d love to see them for more and more consoles! SNES would be incredible, if that were possible... surely it too has a digital frame buffer of some sort? Genesis may be possible, though there is no such thing as digital audio, so it would have to be a video-only solution. Run the audio out separately.
I don't know if you've ever covered it, but that 1702 takes in S-video. You just need a little dingus that converts the mini-DIN plug to 2x RCA. I used that setup to play my OGXB waaaay back in the day. The quality difference is large.
OMG! @ 4:48 Gran Turismo was a high profile PlayStation one release to me... I played that game all the time!
It's worth baring in mind that there's a patching tool for PS1 isos that replaces the dithering patterns with colour banding patterns, which depending on the game can look a lot cleaner. If you have a solution for running patched games, this could be a good pairing with the PS1DIGITAL.
Great job documenting and showcasing this mod for the PS1! I have to ask, why no Sega Saturn content on your channel?
Personally, ive enjoyed ps1 and ps2 for the novelty of the games produced back than .
I guess the kids feel the same for present day titles.
Unfortunately I dont get the kicks out of new titles like I used to.
Spyro sure did bring back the memories!
9:17 Yes! Already I'm sold!
You hear that sound (3:14) ...that sound...that damn sound
This is actually really cool. I was just recently having issues getting the PS1 to work with the framemiester, so I might have a look at this. The big issue I have is with games like Chrono Cross and it’s 240p/480i switching for the menus. The framemiester doesn’t handle this well at all, so this might be a good alternative.
Although older consoles can be modded to output newer signals, their original output was intended for CRT TVs with all of its quirks, so I always try to get RGB cables for those consoles who support it. But I'm sure many AV enthusiasts will love this video!
I have that same Commodore monitor, have had it since 1984 and grew up gaming on it.
I am really excited for the OG XBOX Digital solution as the resolutions on the that console are high so digitally should look super nice
Fun fact. On the PS1 models that shipped to Poland were the typo on the label at the bottom.
In this case the CRT had a built in "smoothing" effect. The picture just looks way too sharp on hdmi. It reminds me of playing Faxanadu(nes) in the fog area on a CRT and then hdmi. They knew what they were doing at times, the fog looks horrible on hdmi but really nice on the CRT. My biggest concern with disc based consoles is the laser. Not sure how much it costs to replace a psx laser these days? They do wear out. I think the best way is to avoid using the laser as much as possible and look into alternatives - if possible.
X Station is the way to go :D
I have been collecting games from my childhood for over a year now. Was looking good crt tv from internet and someone near me gave a way 36' inch Sony Trinitron for free. I can't wait for the time i move to new house and have my nostalgia room completed with ps1, ps2 and good old crt tv.
every time i watch your videos i get distracted by how much i want your computer's wallpaper.
I picked up the Dreamcast mod and the quality is all it's cracked up to be (as long as your TV is properly configured), this mod on a PS would really represent the pinnacle of console gaming for me
Kinda going the other way here :)
Starting to prefer composite cable over RGB scart in some 3D PS1 games, especially those with heavy dithering.
Find that things tend to blend nicer with in the blurrier image and I don't play on a gigantic TV so I don't mind the loss of sharpness.
Those mgs clips sound so crisp
I noticed at 1:20 you mentioned Composite cables that came with PS1, here in the UK they came with an RF out adapter and those were arguably worse than composite.
2:57 It uses an ESP32 MCU!!! I have a little experience coding for those, and the ESP 8266! they are pretty powerful 32Bit MCUs and it doesn't surprise me one bit that they are capable of what the designers are using it for! He said that it has WiFi and can be used to receive updates, and yes the ESP32 has integrated WiFi, but it also supports Bluetooth 4.2 and BLE, so HOPEFULLY it can pair with a Bluetooth audio setup! I want 2 get my hands on it just 2 see if I can mess with it some, and maybe figure out a way to "Cast" the video wirelessly!!! That ESP32 is an amazing chip with near limitless potential!! 1 More thing, Another excellent video from MVG! I don't think MVG is capable of a "Bad" Video!!! seriously, it can just be MVG sittin on the can reading articles out of an old GamePro Magazine and it would still be awesome!!!!
The problem with adding Bluetooth is the cost. You'll have to pay $4000 to license the usage of Bluetooth in the product. Then getting it recertified by the FCC is going to cost another several thousand dollars. For an already limited target audience, making it even smaller by raising the price to cover those costs is probably not worth it.
Found an SCPH-5501 two days ago for $40 CAD. Going to order my PS1Digital once they come in Sept. I’m so stoked to play Xenogears on this beauty!
For me the best ways will always be Original Hardware + CRT (Component, Composite or S-VIDEO even RF), next would be a well configured Retroarch running 240p on a CRT. The CRT gives an impression of a high resolution and also deals with dithering the best way possible.
Mvg rocking that badass beard. Looking good man!
People are amazing. As tech gets better and prices drop we need to look after our old consoles
wow that image really looks amazing. didnt know there were such hardware things
To be fair, I think the PS1 kind of requires an analogue RGB output + a proper CRT to look the best. The "crisp" pixels are just "too crips" on digital displays and causes a very unpleasant noisy image. The CRT masked a lot of the PS1 faults. and it is hard to replicate how it looked back in the days. This is the primary reason I actually enjoy emulating the system. I can choose between soft CRT-filters or just bump up the rendering resolution, (depending on what works best with the game). :)
Very cool! I enjoy geeking out over stuff like this.
Man, I got to watch Voltuar install a beta version of this and now get to watch MVG playtest it? Heck to the yes!
Great video! It's always great to see new hardware being created for retro/vintage consoles
Are there any comparisons with this and a PS2 w/ HDMI running the games that way?
The beard looks great on you!
Nice! Your channel is awesome. I miss your chiptune soundcloud though.
I have three different playstations for different modifications, i think the only clean one i have is the newer style ps1, but this console was an absolute beast for the time, and still looks great if you can upscale it well!
3:21 are we getting that sweet sweet intro mp4 sometime?
No
Can genuinely attest. The PSDigital is arguably the best way to play original PS1 games on a modern display. Parasite Eve has no business sounding as amazing as it does via PSDigital
I had Jose Cruz install the DCHDMI mod in my Dreamcast. I highly recommend him if you want someone to install that or the ps1 digital mod.
Emailed him last week - Waiting to hear back from him about an XStation mod. Also some CRT servicing.