When I was a kid my dad installed a mod chip and he just never told us. My mom would take me to our local blockbuster type store to rent games. My dad would copy them and we would return the originals the next day. I never understood why my games wouldn't work on friend's systems until like over a decade later when he finally told me. He accidentally made a nice memory into a cool story lol.
In case anyone missed it, a similar swap trick was found in 'Alien: Resurrection' recently that doesn't require any mem card code, or mod chips. Just a small in-game cheat code the devs added for early testing and never removed and didn't report to sony.
He caught so much shade for being a sellout back then. 27 years later the guy is still humble, and still a great skater. And what used to be shunned as being a sellout is now lauded as being an entrepeneur (celebs selling water, perfumes, having fashion lines with their name..). What a weird turn of events :D
Maybe they just picked this game because it was one of the best selling game for the system, I'm sure there were other games that had a similar save system, but if it was a really rare game it would be harder to do the trick with a real copy.
For anyone with a Playstation with an I/O port on the back, getting a Gameshark and softmodding it provides a much simpler and smoother experience for playing backup games. If you have that option, you should go the Gameshark route over this method. For anyone whose Playstation does not have an I/O port, this is is a gamechanger.
I knew I played backups on my ps1 but I wasn't sure of the memory. All I remembered was spoofing the console into thinking the door was closed. And then your post reminded me of the device in the back.
You don't even need the I/O port, just the Gameshark CD and you can do this. Also "Mistakes were made" in this video as the Gameshark method works on the ps1 slim. As shown in a video on UA-cam. It also does NOT work on ALL models of the PS1, such as NTSC-U PlayStation 1 SCPH-1000 consoles (BIOS predates the introduction of the CD unlock command).
The pirate ps1 games were always sooooo exciting to look thru when I used to go to carboot sale markets as a kid.... Like a whole sweet shop full of adventures ahhhh man the feeling can't be replaced...
I remember using the swap trick on the original SCPH-1001 and was in awe when it first worked. I got so good at it that I could determine 1x and 2x first by ear alone then by timing LOL. Those were pretty primitive days.
Funny bit about Argentina is that apparently there wasn't a PSOne to be found without a modchip unless you went to the very big retailers (who gave up on selling it as everyone used the chipped ones).
Wasn't as common for me but they were used enough here in Canada for me to notice as a young child. A local mall to me sold $100 mod chip installations and bootleg $5 games for years before they got busted. I was there when the police were closing their shop haha. That mall shop became a nail salon afterwards 😅🙁
5:50 That text in Spanish is hilarious LOL It's some of the jokes that a humorist called "Chiquito de la Calzada" (he's dead btw) used to say on his shows haha! Whoever made this exploit, is a fan of him for sure XD
@@lulkLogan At this rate Microsoft is obv going to one-up them - it has been 16 years and still no soft-modding for the Xbox 360 can be done. Nothing except modifying saves, which still isn't necessarily soft-modding.
@@speedy2263 He comments on a ton of his videos soon after publishing, if we're being honest it's likely for the free shoutout he gets. EDIT: I'm particularly cynical and negative despite not being familiar with his content. Please read his response to my comment and don't take my original comment as more than a grain of salt. Verified channel + audience crossover + early inoffensive comment = close to top comment. Close to top comment + audience crossover = channel growth and engagement. I doubt it's a lot but it's enough for him to keep coming back for that sweet, sweet cross-audience exposure. I sure as heck wouldn't know who he is unless he did this. Or maybe I'm being cynical and he's a giant fan... I do find it hard to believe he isn't doing it at least partly for engagement.
For me it wouldn't have been that much of a difference, since my kind grand father soldered me a mod chip into my playstation. But I can imagine it beeing great for everyone who didn't have someone who could solder a chip in, or parents that wouldn't want to spend the money for a chip.
@@RevCode This, I had a mod-chip installed by the local warez-shop before I even got the console on my hand. I just paid the dude the cost of a PSOne and his modchip work and told him I'll come to pick-up the finished console. I mean, what could I possibly do with an unmodded console and no genuine discs?
@@Δημήτρης-θ7θ Ah, I remember seeing such offerings for I believe the original XBox in a bigger city near me, that they modded it in some way. (I never owned own, my step brother did tho.. was fun whenever he left it to me for a few days. I believe he got his in about 2003 or so, which means I was about 13 years old and by then my parents were not as willing to give me money for another console, I had to work for that myself from 14 onwards :D )
Great to see that the community still keeps on investigating and "enhancing" these old consoles, reminds me of the Sega Saturn hack...Took decades to get copies running on it. Thanks for this great upload... Loving your channel! Greetings from Germany.
Picked up a memory card off eBay for £8 plus postage, with a PAL Crash 3 save. Worked a treat. Tested booting into another legit disc first to make sure the process worked. Burned a couple of games onto cheap discs (max speed) and they worked as well. Very impressed. Also using a PS One.
I had one of those little devices that plugged into the back (plus the spring technique), which I mostly used for playing imported games but had a few copied games that would work. having a CD burner back in those days was a marvel
@Stay EZ My Friends these games came out over 2 decades ago. None of the people that made these games are still making any money off most of them. It’s a victimless crime, like drugs.
Fantastic game too. He recently did his last 540 move whilst in his fifties! Little did we all he know that he’d pull one last blinder for us retro gamers years later! Cheers Tony.
for anyone thinking of buying a ps1 to do this get the ps1 first THEN consider buying this because theres a really really decent chance your ps1 already has a modchip inside of it they were super common hell if you have a store with a stack of ps1s just offer the guy in the store 20 bucks to let you setup a system then try a copy game in each one see if any of them boot the game if hes got a handfull of consoles its almost guarenteed one has it also look for tell tell signs on the screws that someone opened it like scratches to the screwheads or around the screw holes
Nice, this kind of progress is awesome no matter when it arrives. I found my action replay for the ps1 in my garage the other day, it was covered in rust lol. With the prices of some ps1 games being what they are, I’m glad this exists.
Some time before the PS2 released, I picked up something called PS X-Change. You had to put a spring in the console lid, and from there it would boot the PS X-Change disc to a certain point, then stop and tell you on the screen that it was ready. I think it was intended for playing imports but it worked on burned discs too.
Springs from a ballpoint pen have the ideal size to bypass the tray switch in the original ps1. Just attach the spring to the plastic thing that's supposed to push the switch when closed.
My cousin did this. We literally never had to close the lid as we changed discs. Although I feel that his console was already modded as all their game discs were pirated (I could mention how they looked like, but it's easier to just say that they don't look like genuine PS1 discs) and that we switch between Japanese and USA games with no problem.
I just stick a piece of paper on the PSone disc close detector and disc swap at the console load screen. Any official game works and I've played countless burned CDs back when I was a kid. This one is a cool alternative, but it's way too many steps and takes too long.
I can definitely see this as an inexpensive way to play prototypes and unreleased games. Someone out there is probably really excited for this to play something like Magic Castle on their actual PS1 without having to invest in something like the PSIO or XStation. (Really good game by the way!!)
This gives hope of having a softmod that does not require swapping disks at all in the future. I've installed mod chips in a few PS1's, and it was very straightforward. Yes, you're taking a chance of messing it up, but in my opinion the risk is pretty low. I remember installing a mod chip in my first PS2 - that was a bit more complex, and I was very happy when the softmod came out. I don't think I'd be willing to install a mod chip in someone else's PS2.
Nice, cool to see that things are still happening on the PS1 front when it comes to backup solutions. Back in the day, I used the Action Replay on a regular PS1 with the slot on the backside to do this. Just put in a regular game, boot the console and just listen to the laser, when it stops working you can open the lid and remove the original game. Then insert a backup/import, and use the Action Replay menu to start it up. Worked like a charm
Same here, but my guess (since I don't have ways to test/prove it) is that they will. One of the checks has to do with asking the CD drive to re-read the wobble groove at the current disc location. Here's where non-stealthy modchips are detected because these re-reads must not return the region string ("SCEx") required to authenticate the booting of a CD. So here I think it will obviously always pass since there's no modchip in the first place, unless it somehow detects the disabled authentication check of the CD drive. However, another check calculates a checksum of a part of the game's code, whose expected result is stored in the CD's subchannel. Here's where cracking attempts are detected (until this check also gets bypassed of course). So here I believe it depends on also having copied the subchannel data on the "backup" CD. If there are more check methods then I'm not completely sure, otherwise it boils down to how the game handles authentication disabling and if the subchannel is also copied.
TLDR: unless there are check methods that I don't know, my guess is that it boils down to how the game handles authentication disabling (on the CD drive) and if the CD's subchannel is also copied.
When I had a modded Ps1, CD-Rs never worked as well as well as commercial discs. I suppose there’s a way to detect that, but there is always a risk of false alarms especially if the disc is dirty; calling your legit customers pirates is Bad.
if it's an accurate rip, then i think they wouldn't. as far as i'm aware spyro has libcrypt + it's famous custom protection, but the protection only kicks in if the game is modified, so if you have a untouched good CCD or other accurate format dump and can burn it properly then you should be good.
@@fake12396 correct, that's the checksum part i was talking about (but didn't remembered such technique had a name). So if the burner or ripper ignores the subchannel (since in most applications is only used for error detection of its corresponding "sector"), then such check also happens to detect burned CDs even with a modchip installed on the console 🤯. This is most likely the cause of John Simon's issue.
Gigapixels upscaler can interpolate color as it perceives the 8 bit color im guessing as noise. Taking just a screenshot and processing that cleans it up a lot honestly. We need stuff like this in real time as a tool. Im not talking debanding nonsense but a legit reconstruction tech specific for stuff thats so ancient its the only way to get the textures to resolve with any sort of grace. I have no love for the warpy wobbly software bs of PS1.
I mentioned this earlier, but I had a disc version of Action Replay for the PSX (fat) that is suspiciously reminiscent of this. I used it around 1996 or 97. I didn't use it for loading burned games, but for breaking the region lock so I could play imported games from Japan. It came with a spring that would always hold down the disc tray button even when opened. You would boot up the Action Replay disc, you could write stuff to the memory card, then when you were ready, you'd select the game you wanted to play and its settings (like translations and cheats), it would tell you when to swap the disc, and then it would load the import, bypassing the initial PS boot screen. I played Tobal 2 and DBZ: Ultimate Battle 22 this way! I wonder if it's similar in how it works, cuz it sure sounds like it.
Mom bought some kind of bootleg disc at a swapmeet that had that same spring mechanism you mention. You would boot that disc up, it would load to a “change disc” screen, and you could swap and boot up pretty much anything after. It was probably an action replay but it didn’t have a case or manuals or anything
When I was a kid, I learned that I could keep the original PS1 lid button pressed down with tape, use a code breaker disc to load up no cheats (just to boot a legit disc), insert a backup disc and then hit play and it would launch the backup. No muss, no fuss. Took less than 20 seconds to get into your backup disc.
luckily I have my ps1 slim in very good condition with the mod for backup copies and also the mini sony screen on it, but is good to know about this thanks for the information very appreciated.
Yeah it's a shame they can't modify the firmware to load homebrew like the Wii and 3DS. I don't know how common it is to be able to softmod like that though (I've only done those + Gamecube)
The Method used for Twilight hack is still in use for Twilight Princess randomizer btw :) we use it to load a REL file from the Memcard which then contains the randomizer program
"You can softmod your PS1" Okay, i'm listening....... "You can use a PS2 with FreeMcBoot to put the custom save file on the PS1 memory" SAY NO MORE! I'M ON IT, BROTHER!!!! *Sprints to storage closet*
I remember doing something similar as a kid with an old 'Xploder pocket powerstation cheat cd back in the day (from a playstation magazine I had). It would do the regular boot process into their cheat menu, and while holding the case spring down (taping it) during this process, you could then easily swap the disc then close it. and simply without loading any cheats, just press start and you could load any backup CD you had.
I bet a scalper looked at this and was like "Let's over-inflate the price of some games", until you said that the exploit is released for other types of games too. ... Scalpers can burn in hell!
Always a pleasure to listen to your explanation because without hacking knowledge we can understand the principle :) I have the feeling you need some rest you looked a bit attack by fatigue...
Thinner software stack, less use of seldom updated commonly used third party libraries with known vulns. Also less persistent state of the os means getting an untethered exploit is less likely.
@@danielanju960 that's because of the hypervisor. Microsoft invested tons into virtualization and protecting the windows OS for the home and corporate markets and were able to easily utilize that same research for the Xbox.
Awesome! I just happened to buy a. Origional PS1 because of the cd payers being of audiophile level tech. Now I can play pretty much the only System with Doom port worth taking a look at. :-D Liked &Shared
Regarding getting the Tonyhax onto a PS1 memory card, you forgot to mention the Interact DexDrive! They can still be found 'new old stock' on amazon for cheap (~25 USD). You need a USB to serial com port adapter (~9 USD) and software to make it work. The original software is slow and clunky so I have always used the open source tool Dexter written for this hardware to manage and backup my PS1 save games to and from PC. It's very easy, I can't recommend it enough as an alternative to some of the other options mentioned.
Pretty cool trick. I used to use the disc swap trick on my original Playstation. Then when I got my PS One Slim i got myself a PS-X-Change disc, which works perfectly fine to play backups on my PS One Slim without a mod chip.
Had this been discovered when the PS1 was still in the market it would've completely changed the videogame world as we know it today. Hell, Sega would still be around.
Probably people would have bought even less EGA games, because they would have gotten a PSX instead for playing free games more. Just the few who didn't have an modchip anyway of course.
I used the ps-x-change and still have it. It was a disc that came with a spring and a sticker. The purpose of the string or sticker was to hold the button down that said the lid would close. Then you insert the psxchange disc, boot it up, and then swap out your disc and pressed start. The disc would stop spinning as well.
to be fair, i personally prefer having all my games on one cartridge for example for n64. i own dozens of copies of my games, i'd be lying if i said i didnt have copies of games i dont own too though. if you have a scratched up disc from year 2000 that you cant play on, at least you can feel like it really just is a backup since you do own the original disc, even if it doesnt work.
They absolutely have to do this. For one thing, saying anything else would be an instant assumption of encouraging piracy, and easily provable beyond a reasonable doubt (Or rather, a reasonable person could easily believe that to be the case) in court. Being fair use is very important for this sort of thing, so saying 'Allows you to play pirated PS1 games!' is a really negative connotation, and could harm the community and the programmers who come up with this stuff.
Thee paid UA-camrs have to do it. But when you're me and no one gives a sbit about you, you can say the truth. Yeah i STEAL games. Straight up PIRACY! what anyone gunna do about it? Lol
Literally where the BEDATA (+ PS2 ARMAX/GAMESHARK) method for PS2 comes from, which has evolved into a suite software called FreeMCBoot which also no longer requires to build a file in your memory card using a specific PSX/PSOne game of your choice.
I been playing my burned games using the PS-X-Change 2 disc and spring since the 2000s. I originally got it to play my imports until I learned it also worked with burned games :p
If this softmod had been possile in 1995 I'd have been very impressed! Especially since THPS2 didn't release till 2000 :P Still, if an exploit like this had been discovered in 1995, it may have heavily changed the course of history. A lot of people would likely have done it due to the ease of it, and Sony may well have taken crippling legal action against Activision. Could have meant no COD franchise as we have it today, no Acti-Blizz. Sony themselves may have cut their losses in console manufacture and thus no PS2.
The actual vulnerability that makes Tonyhax possible wouldnt be Activision's fault though. As per whats in the end of the video, the PS1's cd drive has undocumented commands which Tonyhax uses to launch PS1 backups.
Finally checked my PlayStation collection and the only Tony Hawk game I have is Pro Skater 3! But as MVG correctly said: "modded PS1s are everywhere". Mine was modded back in the day so this is hack isn't useful to me but I love that it exists anyway!
This reminds me a lot of how homebrew started on the 3DS. Hackers basically found a shitty 1 dollar game on the eshop with an exploit similar to this, and they used it to run custom code.
I recall UK gaming mags having free printed little tips and ticks books...they had one with the disc swap and bluetac method...it was featured on the book covers as a selling point of the mag...it totally worked...best felling ever playing a ripped king of fighters 99 import disc using the swap method...felt like magic.
Reminds me when the Wii U first came out and people could still use the Smash Bros. Stack on it *"vWii"* so when I tried to buy Smash Bros. Brawl it went up in price.. so when people find an exploit that has something to do with a game you will see a spike in prices...
27 years later, Hawks greatest trick yet.
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I feel like if you said tony, even before I saw it. I’d know what your talking about. But unfortunately I have no clue what you just said.
hahahhah
he did a 540 McBoot
"Hey kid! Do a Tony Hack!"
When I was a kid my dad installed a mod chip and he just never told us. My mom would take me to our local blockbuster type store to rent games. My dad would copy them and we would return the originals the next day. I never understood why my games wouldn't work on friend's systems until like over a decade later when he finally told me. He accidentally made a nice memory into a cool story lol.
you never noticed the discs looked a bit different and were cdr's ?
@@waynosdaboss Maybe he printed labels for them. Still you would wonder why the disc wasn't black on the bottom.
Yeah my dad did this although he told me and my brother what it was - we used to go to rental shops and rent out like 10 games to copy at a time
Coolest dad ever
damn thats smart
MVG needs to cover the leak of the 700+ PS2 prototype games from last week.
Say WHAT??!
Brah you are everywhere i go
Soon
I wish someone would find the resi 4 beta if its even available😞
@Auþhyx id assume that was just for Gamecube since re4 was a gc exclusive at first for a year or so.
In case anyone missed it, a similar swap trick was found in 'Alien: Resurrection' recently that doesn't require any mem card code, or mod chips. Just a small in-game cheat code the devs added for early testing and never removed and didn't report to sony.
For some reason it isnt working for me...crazy..
@@ButtaMilkBiscuitsGamingskill issue
@@snowthearcticfox1Unironically yes
Tony Hawk: I'm about to do what's called a "Pro Skater Move"...
Here I am, doing everything I can…
Take your upvote and get out.
@@singletona082 reddit moment
@@singletona082 wait this isn't reddit
@@TheDeadKingsRaven Holding on to what I am
27 years later, and Tony Hawk's pro skater is still making waves. Tony and his game series is legendary.
He caught so much shade for being a sellout back then. 27 years later the guy is still humble, and still a great skater. And what used to be shunned as being a sellout is now lauded as being an entrepeneur (celebs selling water, perfumes, having fashion lines with their name..). What a weird turn of events :D
so say we all :D Also what's up with youtube pushing these @s at the end? Eh whatever :D @damarfadlan9251
Maybe they just picked this game because it was one of the best selling game for the system, I'm sure there were other games that had a similar save system, but if it was a really rare game it would be harder to do the trick with a real copy.
For anyone with a Playstation with an I/O port on the back, getting a Gameshark and softmodding it provides a much simpler and smoother experience for playing backup games. If you have that option, you should go the Gameshark route over this method. For anyone whose Playstation does not have an I/O port, this is is a gamechanger.
I knew I played backups on my ps1 but I wasn't sure of the memory. All I remembered was spoofing the console into thinking the door was closed. And then your post reminded me of the device in the back.
You don't even need the I/O port, just the Gameshark CD and you can do this. Also "Mistakes were made" in this video as the Gameshark method works on the ps1 slim. As shown in a video on UA-cam. It also does NOT work on ALL models of the PS1, such as NTSC-U PlayStation 1 SCPH-1000 consoles (BIOS predates the introduction of the CD unlock command).
Literally a "game changer" 🤣
Did you not watch this video?
@@temporaryscars shut up
I haven't owned a PS1 in years, but I still wanted to watch just to support - this is honestly great, reminds me of the old Splinter Cell xbox mod! :D
"Playing backups." Yarrr, matey! I got me lots o' backups hidden in me peg leg, me eyepatch, and me parrot.
Polly wants a backup 🦜
Me crew and I raided a ship, plundered some hard disks full of PS1 backups. That counts, right?
@@TheJimmys11 Backups are backups, aren’t they matey?
Arrrrr... I hear ya matey!
peg leg is a backup
The pirate ps1 games were always sooooo exciting to look thru when I used to go to carboot sale markets as a kid.... Like a whole sweet shop full of adventures ahhhh man the feeling can't be replaced...
I remember using the swap trick on the original SCPH-1001 and was in awe when it first worked. I got so good at it that I could determine 1x and 2x first by ear alone then by timing LOL. Those were pretty primitive days.
Yeah, that should never have worked lol
yep me too lol 😁
Me too! After a while I had it down nearly perfectly
yep...you internet drek heads caused a lot of broken disc readers back than.
Yup. Helped me doing the double swap trick on Saturn model 2 where you don't have a CD access light to assist your timing
Funny bit about Argentina is that apparently there wasn't a PSOne to be found without a modchip unless you went to the very big retailers (who gave up on selling it as everyone used the chipped ones).
same in Brazil. unchipped psx or ps2s are collector items with no real demand.
I got all my games from a pirated games shop that sold them at a shopping mall of all places. And that's how I learnt English, so yay piracy.
Same in Azerbaijan. We used Russian pirated discs. Some of them even had Cracktro like Medal of Honor.
Wasn't as common for me but they were used enough here in Canada for me to notice as a young child. A local mall to me sold $100 mod chip installations and bootleg $5 games for years before they got busted. I was there when the police were closing their shop haha. That mall shop became a nail salon afterwards 😅🙁
Same in Russia. Japanese didn't care to make games for us, back then they barely cared about Western Europe
Not only is tony hawk the world's greatest skateboarder he's also low-key the world's greatest softmodder
Edit: MVG you owe me a dollar per like 🤣
Tony Hawk has never been close to the worlds greatest skateboarder, but I get what youre saying.
@@circa2008 Who's better ? Rodney Mullen ?
Probably a Nyjah Huston fan. Ignore em.
@Johnny Silverhand do you not understand that soft mod means software mod?
@Johnny Silverhand what you're referring too is not soft modding. Soft-modding involves modifying software, disc tray sensors are hardware.
5:50 That text in Spanish is hilarious LOL It's some of the jokes that a humorist called "Chiquito de la Calzada" (he's dead btw) used to say on his shows haha! Whoever made this exploit, is a fan of him for sure XD
"Mistakes were made: How a PS1 game defeated the PS1 security"
Ollie'ing our way into the console's security!
27 years later. I think Sony would be happy if that's how long it took all their systems to get software exploits.
@@lulkLogan look up ps-x-change had one as a kid
@@lulkLogan At this rate Microsoft is obv going to one-up them - it has been 16 years and still no soft-modding for the Xbox 360 can be done.
Nothing except modifying saves, which still isn't necessarily soft-modding.
technically games don't "defeat" themselves but rather they have programming flaws that can be exploited.
Incredible to finally see this come to fruition.
welp, didn't expect you here
@@speedy2263 Really? because he comments on just about every video like this
The author just needed to fill his special trick meter with a sick grind for the past 20 years in order to get the exploit to work.
@@freerunner658 seriously? I've seen him on 2 or 3 videos like this. Maybe I'm just blind lol
@@speedy2263 He comments on a ton of his videos soon after publishing, if we're being honest it's likely for the free shoutout he gets.
EDIT: I'm particularly cynical and negative despite not being familiar with his content. Please read his response to my comment and don't take my original comment as more than a grain of salt.
Verified channel + audience crossover + early inoffensive comment = close to top comment.
Close to top comment + audience crossover = channel growth and engagement.
I doubt it's a lot but it's enough for him to keep coming back for that sweet, sweet cross-audience exposure. I sure as heck wouldn't know who he is unless he did this.
Or maybe I'm being cynical and he's a giant fan... I do find it hard to believe he isn't doing it at least partly for engagement.
My inner kid is incredibly excited by this. Imagine having this back in the 90's.
Have one in the 90, My brother know how to mod back in the day.
UNLIMITED POWAH
For me it wouldn't have been that much of a difference, since my kind grand father soldered me a mod chip into my playstation. But I can imagine it beeing great for everyone who didn't have someone who could solder a chip in, or parents that wouldn't want to spend the money for a chip.
@@RevCode This, I had a mod-chip installed by the local warez-shop before I even got the console on my hand. I just paid the dude the cost of a PSOne and his modchip work and told him I'll come to pick-up the finished console. I mean, what could I possibly do with an unmodded console and no genuine discs?
@@Δημήτρης-θ7θ Ah, I remember seeing such offerings for I believe the original XBox in a bigger city near me, that they modded it in some way. (I never owned own, my step brother did tho.. was fun whenever he left it to me for a few days. I believe he got his in about 2003 or so, which means I was about 13 years old and by then my parents were not as willing to give me money for another console, I had to work for that myself from 14 onwards :D )
Great to see that the community still keeps on investigating and "enhancing" these old consoles, reminds me of the Sega Saturn hack...Took decades to get copies running on it. Thanks for this great upload... Loving your channel! Greetings from Germany.
unrelated, but it's cool seeing a deftones fan here haha
Picked up a memory card off eBay for £8 plus postage, with a PAL Crash 3 save. Worked a treat. Tested booting into another legit disc first to make sure the process worked. Burned a couple of games onto cheap discs (max speed) and they worked as well. Very impressed. Also using a PS One.
Really cool that this has finally come around. Leaving comment just to boost your channel engagement for the algorithm, you deserve it.
The Vintage Modern Gamer strikes again.
"Experience in soldering"
Buddy, this was my first experience in soldering.
“3 years experience required.” Gets the job with zero experience.
mine too i destroyed mine ops XD
The PS2 chip was fun 22 wires lol
I just found my PlayStation and PS One yesterday and for today being my birthday, this is awesome!
Happy Birthday
Happy Birthday 🎉🎈
I had one of those little devices that plugged into the back (plus the spring technique), which I mostly used for playing imported games but had a few copied games that would work. having a CD burner back in those days was a marvel
The way you handle the cd sent chills down my spine.
It’s sad that there’s people who want to stop these kinds of projects , just because they think having a rom makes you a criminal.
It's cool and good actually
And yet the bigger the piracy of ps1 games, the bigger the value of the original well preserved games.
@Stay EZ My Friends most of these games arent even being sold anymore
@Stay EZ My Friends these games came out over 2 decades ago. None of the people that made these games are still making any money off most of them. It’s a victimless crime, like drugs.
But you probably think it's ok for them to sell us games we already own though huh?
Fantastic game too. He recently did his last 540 move whilst in his fifties! Little did we all he know that he’d pull one last blinder for us retro gamers years later! Cheers Tony.
*900
27 years since PS1 !! I feel so old now, thanks man.
for anyone thinking of buying a ps1 to do this get the ps1 first THEN consider buying this because theres a really really decent chance your ps1 already has a modchip inside of it they were super common hell if you have a store with a stack of ps1s just offer the guy in the store 20 bucks to let you setup a system then try a copy game in each one see if any of them boot the game if hes got a handfull of consoles its almost guarenteed one has it
also look for tell tell signs on the screws that someone opened it like scratches to the screwheads or around the screw holes
Thanks to this video I heard about the Memory Card Pro! Its exactly what i've been looking around for these past few years! :)
Nice, this kind of progress is awesome no matter when it arrives. I found my action replay for the ps1 in my garage the other day, it was covered in rust lol. With the prices of some ps1 games being what they are, I’m glad this exists.
time travel tell kid me what anime is so i can be rich as a 20 y/o
Some time before the PS2 released, I picked up something called PS X-Change. You had to put a spring in the console lid, and from there it would boot the PS X-Change disc to a certain point, then stop and tell you on the screen that it was ready. I think it was intended for playing imports but it worked on burned discs too.
I use a PS X-Change, but the adhesive used for keeping my slim PSone door closed is wearing out :(
This is a true gamer moment
I didn't hear any special words...
Honestly your content is always spot on mate and quality is unreal! Subbed
Springs from a ballpoint pen have the ideal size to bypass the tray switch in the original ps1.
Just attach the spring to the plastic thing that's supposed to push the switch when closed.
My cousin did this. We literally never had to close the lid as we changed discs. Although I feel that his console was already modded as all their game discs were pirated (I could mention how they looked like, but it's easier to just say that they don't look like genuine PS1 discs) and that we switch between Japanese and USA games with no problem.
The value and sales of those games just went up 1000%.
Same with the cubic ninja game lol
I'm curious who own a Playstation without Tony Hawk 2 or 3 though lol
@@watsonwrote I do, never played them on PS1 but I do have a copy of THPS4 tho
@@watsonwrote i only had THPS3 on ps2
I just stick a piece of paper on the PSone disc close detector and disc swap at the console load screen. Any official game works and I've played countless burned CDs back when I was a kid. This one is a cool alternative, but it's way too many steps and takes too long.
At morning: ugh, it's monday, still have the whole week until weekend :(
After MVG video: what a great monday :)
I can definitely see this as an inexpensive way to play prototypes and unreleased games. Someone out there is probably really excited for this to play something like Magic Castle on their actual PS1 without having to invest in something like the PSIO or XStation. (Really good game by the way!!)
This gives hope of having a softmod that does not require swapping disks at all in the future. I've installed mod chips in a few PS1's, and it was very straightforward. Yes, you're taking a chance of messing it up, but in my opinion the risk is pretty low.
I remember installing a mod chip in my first PS2 - that was a bit more complex, and I was very happy when the softmod came out. I don't think I'd be willing to install a mod chip in someone else's PS2.
Finally! Been waiting for this for nearly 3 decades!
27 years. I love the dedication
Nice, cool to see that things are still happening on the PS1 front when it comes to backup solutions.
Back in the day, I used the Action Replay on a regular PS1 with the slot on the backside to do this.
Just put in a regular game, boot the console and just listen to the laser, when it stops working you can open the lid and remove the original game. Then insert a backup/import, and use the Action Replay menu to start it up. Worked like a charm
That's in the video.
Woah that's quite an impressive achievement there indeed, and incredible to have something like this happen 27 years later!🤯👍👏
As if this was never tried before? I knew this ages ago and I have PS1 backup games I could play since I knew in 2005
@@googleuser4720Tony hawk games truly are some of the best lol
@@googleuser4720 Hooray, I'll shine up your medal real nice! Rude ass.
MVG you always have top quality content. Loved the gameboy game dev video and looking forward to seeing more of them.
Back around 2003, I had a Gameshark and a spring that held the lid button. Worked exactly the same.
And I needed something to do today, thanks for the idea!
I'm curious if Spyro 3's anti-piracy checks would catch this.
Same here, but my guess (since I don't have ways to test/prove it) is that they will.
One of the checks has to do with asking the CD drive to re-read the wobble groove at the current disc location. Here's where non-stealthy modchips are detected because these re-reads must not return the region string ("SCEx") required to authenticate the booting of a CD.
So here I think it will obviously always pass since there's no modchip in the first place, unless it somehow detects the disabled authentication check of the CD drive.
However, another check calculates a checksum of a part of the game's code, whose expected result is stored in the CD's subchannel. Here's where cracking attempts are detected (until this check also gets bypassed of course).
So here I believe it depends on also having copied the subchannel data on the "backup" CD.
If there are more check methods then I'm not completely sure, otherwise it boils down to how the game handles authentication disabling and if the subchannel is also copied.
TLDR: unless there are check methods that I don't know, my guess is that it boils down to how the game handles authentication disabling (on the CD drive) and if the CD's subchannel is also copied.
When I had a modded Ps1, CD-Rs never worked as well as well as commercial discs. I suppose there’s a way to detect that, but there is always a risk of false alarms especially if the disc is dirty; calling your legit customers pirates is Bad.
if it's an accurate rip, then i think they wouldn't. as far as i'm aware spyro has libcrypt + it's famous custom protection, but the protection only kicks in if the game is modified, so if you have a untouched good CCD or other accurate format dump and can burn it properly then you should be good.
@@fake12396 correct, that's the checksum part i was talking about (but didn't remembered such technique had a name).
So if the burner or ripper ignores the subchannel (since in most applications is only used for error detection of its corresponding "sector"), then such check also happens to detect burned CDs even with a modchip installed on the console 🤯.
This is most likely the cause of John Simon's issue.
*INSTANT CLICK*
Too slow. This one was a preemptive click.
*Laughs in rainbow six OG raytraced*
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Gigapixels upscaler can interpolate color as it perceives the 8 bit color im guessing as noise. Taking just a screenshot and processing that cleans it up a lot honestly. We need stuff like this in real time as a tool. Im not talking debanding nonsense but a legit reconstruction tech specific for stuff thats so ancient its the only way to get the textures to resolve with any sort of grace. I have no love for the warpy wobbly software bs of PS1.
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I mentioned this earlier, but I had a disc version of Action Replay for the PSX (fat) that is suspiciously reminiscent of this. I used it around 1996 or 97. I didn't use it for loading burned games, but for breaking the region lock so I could play imported games from Japan. It came with a spring that would always hold down the disc tray button even when opened. You would boot up the Action Replay disc, you could write stuff to the memory card, then when you were ready, you'd select the game you wanted to play and its settings (like translations and cheats), it would tell you when to swap the disc, and then it would load the import, bypassing the initial PS boot screen. I played Tobal 2 and DBZ: Ultimate Battle 22 this way! I wonder if it's similar in how it works, cuz it sure sounds like it.
Mom bought some kind of bootleg disc at a swapmeet that had that same spring mechanism you mention. You would boot that disc up, it would load to a “change disc” screen, and you could swap and boot up pretty much anything after. It was probably an action replay but it didn’t have a case or manuals or anything
wow, it allowed it to translate the game, I never heard of that. So the action replay would change the text on the games from Japanese to English?
@@brodude3709I can’t confirm but definitely possible, action replay has the ability to modify the games code
So many kids sold the chips for $75 then rented games and sold them for $5 a pop. Proaction replay was amazing.
I did this too so I could play a jp version of DBGT FINAL BOUT back in 2001 😂
Very cool man, hope you're doing well. Looking forward to running into you again at the next Convention!
When I was a kid, I learned that I could keep the original PS1 lid button pressed down with tape, use a code breaker disc to load up no cheats (just to boot a legit disc), insert a backup disc and then hit play and it would launch the backup. No muss, no fuss. Took less than 20 seconds to get into your backup disc.
Cool to see homebrew devs still working on such an old console
😂😂😂
PSone was the one, i genuinely loved that little thing.
luckily I have my ps1 slim in very good condition with the mod for backup copies and also the mini sony screen on it, but is good to know about this thanks for the information very appreciated.
The beautiful of this, you don't need to change anything in your original hardware and play your backup copies of your favorite games, it is amazing.
When I saw Final Fantasy Tactics, I knew you were a man of CULTURE.
That explains why my store sold out of ps1s this week. We hadn’t sold one in months!
wait you still sell ps1? where your store located? in my country no ps1 left available especially if youre looking for one in good conditions
So basically this is just a safer cd swap method. Nice.
Yeah it's a shame they can't modify the firmware to load homebrew like the Wii and 3DS. I don't know how common it is to be able to softmod like that though (I've only done those + Gamecube)
ya which makes me wonder how well it works with multiple disc games.
I am fascinated by your content and am binge watching lots of your videos the past week :)
The Method used for Twilight hack is still in use for Twilight Princess randomizer btw :) we use it to load a REL file from the Memcard which then contains the randomizer program
I like the idea of using one game to run another, it's like a funny key.
You could use the swap trick to load tony hawks3 from a burnt cdr. So one game runs another that runs another....
@@meetoo594 Turtles all the way down.
I did the swap trick with 007 night fire on ps2 to run freemcboot, it had the same funny key feeling
@@CJ9007 everything Sony was made to be hacked
Tony finally 900'd into the hacker-zone.
"You can softmod your PS1"
Okay, i'm listening.......
"You can use a PS2 with FreeMcBoot to put the custom save file on the PS1 memory"
SAY NO MORE! I'M ON IT, BROTHER!!!! *Sprints to storage closet*
thanks for keeping the steady content up! Really enjoyed this one.
I remember doing something similar as a kid with an old 'Xploder pocket powerstation cheat cd back in the day (from a playstation magazine I had). It would do the regular boot process into their cheat menu, and while holding the case spring down (taping it) during this process, you could then easily swap the disc then close it. and simply without loading any cheats, just press start and you could load any backup CD you had.
Today I learned: PSOne has a completely different looking bios screen from the original PS1. Never seen that bios before.
Yeah that was the default
Only a matter of time before Sony fixes this with a firmware update.
yeah, im sure Sony will send out 'required 'serial port firmware upgrade sticks. This week :)
Seeing the upvotes on your comment, I'm so thankful that there are still people around who understand sarkasm.
@@mk-yg7op yeah I got what you were saying and thought it was funny lol
@@mk-yg7op this is not reddit
Omg ........
I bet a scalper looked at this and was like "Let's over-inflate the price of some games", until you said that the exploit is released for other types of games too.
... Scalpers can burn in hell!
GG ,Just because we want to make
Some money ?
tanK you
Price of th 2&3 will mark up now after this 🙄🙄
I always wondering and amaze how people found these exploit. Salute!!
Always a pleasure to listen to your explanation because without hacking knowledge we can understand the principle :) I have the feeling you need some rest you looked a bit attack by fatigue...
The funny part is how the older consoles were harder to soft mod than the newer ones..
Thinner software stack, less use of seldom updated commonly used third party libraries with known vulns.
Also less persistent state of the os means getting an untethered exploit is less likely.
Nah, really didn't need to softmod back then when a spring did the trick just fine
Not really as newer ones are basically pcs while older ones used their own technologies which is why it takes a lot more reverse-engineering.
Not really, i mean xbone is still pretty hard to mod isn't it?
@@danielanju960 that's because of the hypervisor. Microsoft invested tons into virtualization and protecting the windows OS for the home and corporate markets and were able to easily utilize that same research for the Xbox.
This soft mod works so elegantly, I love how simple it was to get into backup games.
Another reason to love Tony Hawk...
Awesome! I just happened to buy a. Origional PS1 because of the cd payers being of audiophile level tech. Now I can play pretty much the only System with Doom port worth taking a look at. :-D
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Regarding getting the Tonyhax onto a PS1 memory card, you forgot to mention the Interact DexDrive! They can still be found 'new old stock' on amazon for cheap (~25 USD). You need a USB to serial com port adapter (~9 USD) and software to make it work. The original software is slow and clunky so I have always used the open source tool Dexter written for this hardware to manage and backup my PS1 save games to and from PC. It's very easy, I can't recommend it enough as an alternative to some of the other options mentioned.
Now this is quite something - a proper softmod for the PSOne. I'd never expected that to become a reality.
i hope to see sega saturn softmod
I love seeing shit like this happen. Sony can’t be like “oh shit, software update”.
Exactly
Awesome hopefully some more exploits are discovered for other consoles and devices.
Pretty cool trick. I used to use the disc swap trick on my original Playstation. Then when I got my PS One Slim i got myself a PS-X-Change disc, which works perfectly fine to play backups on my PS One Slim without a mod chip.
Had this been discovered when the PS1 was still in the market it would've completely changed the videogame world as we know it today. Hell, Sega would still be around.
I'm not so sure about SEGA, but it definitely would have changed things.
I paid in 1999 roughly 30$ for my modchip, it was done by a friend of our family.
Yeah I'm not sure how this would have got people to buy more Sega games. It just means people would have bought less playstation games.
Probably people would have bought even less EGA games, because they would have gotten a PSX instead for playing free games more. Just the few who didn't have an modchip anyway of course.
@@digital_underground ;)
How the hell did they find / figure out the secret CD commands? I'd love to see a video on how that was done.
This!
Im guessing chip decapping
Or some easier way to leak the detailed design for the cd reader
Some very clever people. They either sniffed the signals or decompile and reverse engineering of the security chips I guess
Reverse engineering. Lots of memory dumps and analyzing assembly.
I remember how difficult was for me was to see my PS1 die back in the day. This is just awesome.
It died? Mine still works. It outlasted multiple PS2s lol.
I used the ps-x-change and still have it.
It was a disc that came with a spring and a sticker.
The purpose of the string or sticker was to hold the button down that said the lid would close.
Then you insert the psxchange disc, boot it up, and then swap out your disc and pressed start. The disc would stop spinning as well.
im glad I found my ps3 memory card adapter literally a week before this came out, gonna download that to my memory cards now!
The outro music took me by surprise.
all of his music is fire! 10/10
@@MrBigGStyle Sure is! Intro music 🎶 is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The PS1 Slim (aka PS one) was and is the TRUE Sony PSP.
I love how the community says """"BACKUP GAMES"""""
to be fair, i personally prefer having all my games on one cartridge for example for n64. i own dozens of copies of my games, i'd be lying if i said i didnt have copies of games i dont own too though.
if you have a scratched up disc from year 2000 that you cant play on, at least you can feel like it really just is a backup since you do own the original disc, even if it doesnt work.
They absolutely have to do this. For one thing, saying anything else would be an instant assumption of encouraging piracy, and easily provable beyond a reasonable doubt (Or rather, a reasonable person could easily believe that to be the case) in court. Being fair use is very important for this sort of thing, so saying 'Allows you to play pirated PS1 games!' is a really negative connotation, and could harm the community and the programmers who come up with this stuff.
Not to contradict, but the percentage of people playing (real) backups is not as small as you might think.
Thee paid UA-camrs have to do it. But when you're me and no one gives a sbit about you, you can say the truth. Yeah i STEAL games. Straight up PIRACY! what anyone gunna do about it? Lol
It's the truth
Literally where the BEDATA (+ PS2 ARMAX/GAMESHARK) method for PS2 comes from, which has evolved into a suite software called FreeMCBoot which also no longer requires to build a file in your memory card using a specific PSX/PSOne game of your choice.
I been playing my burned games using the PS-X-Change 2 disc and spring since the 2000s. I originally got it to play my imports until I learned it also worked with burned games :p
Tony Hawk makes everything better. Even when he's not physically there.
If this softmod had been possile in 1995 I'd have been very impressed! Especially since THPS2 didn't release till 2000 :P
Still, if an exploit like this had been discovered in 1995, it may have heavily changed the course of history. A lot of people would likely have done it due to the ease of it, and Sony may well have taken crippling legal action against Activision. Could have meant no COD franchise as we have it today, no Acti-Blizz. Sony themselves may have cut their losses in console manufacture and thus no PS2.
Didn't you watch to the end? This isn't just for the two latest Tony Hawk's games.
The actual vulnerability that makes Tonyhax possible wouldnt be Activision's fault though. As per whats in the end of the video, the PS1's cd drive has undocumented commands which Tonyhax uses to launch PS1 backups.
27 years, I’m going to be over 50 for the ps5 soft hack rip
maybe nobody will care about that, ps1 was the jump in gaming history
Finally checked my PlayStation collection and the only Tony Hawk game I have is Pro Skater 3! But as MVG correctly said: "modded PS1s are everywhere". Mine was modded back in the day so this is hack isn't useful to me but I love that it exists anyway!
Been watching on and off for years. Love your content brodie
This reminds me a lot of how homebrew started on the 3DS. Hackers basically found a shitty 1 dollar game on the eshop with an exploit similar to this, and they used it to run custom code.
And that game shot up to #1 on the eShop when this was discovered I think
5:53 - Lorem fistrum te voy a cerrar el cerito...
LOL 😂
And now all we have to do is wait for another 27 years softmod PS5 ;)
Is there a tony hawk on ps5? 😋
I recall UK gaming mags having free printed little tips and ticks books...they had one with the disc swap and bluetac method...it was featured on the book covers as a selling point of the mag...it totally worked...best felling ever playing a ripped king of fighters 99 import disc using the swap method...felt like magic.
I got around to testing this out. It worked perfectly.
Just checked on Ebay and already copies of the game seem to have gone up in price!
Reminds me when the Wii U first came out and people could still use the Smash Bros. Stack on it *"vWii"* so when I tried to buy Smash Bros. Brawl it went up in price.. so when people find an exploit that has something to do with a game you will see a spike in prices...