I love breakdowns like these! This is an incredible amount of information that is very difficult to master. I am familiar with some of these concepts as a mid-Diamond Katarina player who studies DOPA frequently, but getting the breakdown from another PoV (especially someone higher rank than I) is a great gift.
Always ping 40 times, on your lane, as well as all the way down the roaming opponent's path, and maybe even some careful or danger pings on the teammates as well as a cherry on top. Don't leave it up to chance that they don't see it
As a high elo midlaner I can tell not many players are afraid of katarina, she isn't worth a ban tbh. We are scared of the coinflip teammates that apparently never played against a roaming midlaner in their entire lives.
I'm only p1-d3 elo but I perma ping ny teammates whenever my enemy mid is missing sometimes I get teammates that listen but sometimes for some reason they just ignore me and gives a free gank and not only that they ping me for bot following up a gank, I legit just don't understand why they must perma fight every single time when they can just walk away and waste enemy mid's time putting both of our teams in an advantage
Damn this feels like a huge throwback to Dopa’s masterful TF vs Fizz gameplay video, this is one of my favourite videos along with that one, i’d really appreciate seeing more of these
This is the MASSIVE difference between low and high elo. In low elo there would have been at least 5 kills or deaths mid. In high elo its a game of strategic chess where every kill is a huge victory
Great video as always. I am currently stuck in Diamond 1, pretty much one of the worst elos you can be in, because of all the bought and boosted accounts. And watching this helps me to get better, to at some point smurf my way to Master and Grandmaster ^^. Thanks Skill Capped
i'm playing so often with/vs diamond/master players in normals and flex and they always suck so much. me and my friend are ALWAYS like "oh god. we got diamond in team again :'(" obviously boosted but their ego still big. sad. for example not once i've seen a diamond smiting their first camp as jungler! diamond adc not knowing at all how to kite and diamonds that would constantly push the wave vs shaco and then complain that their opponent "is too scared to fight 1v1" usually i'd be surprised if even gold would act like that.
@@Totch00 the fact that you think half the Katarina players care about minions/lane makes me laugh xD Even challenger Katarinas drops entire waves to roam bot
So what i took from the video is : Kat did 2 huge mistakes . Dopa played it PERFECTLY , yet he almost died if it weren't for the wall trick & kat skills was on CD . Hmmmmmm and that was pre lv 6 !
Why didn't katarina just use her ignite at the end lol? Obviously dopa knew she had the summoner spell advantage and still stepped up to fight. He was literally 100 hp from death and the ignite could've easily killed him.
Just to sum up the video for you guys: - Know the ranges and cooldowns of every summoner spell in the game. - Be able to tether like a pro (a very difficult ability) - Contest every single minion. - Always watch the minimap and use lane positioning perfectly. - Do random moves like Dopa that even skillcapped doesn't understand. If you do all of that perfectly, then you can beat OP champs like Katarina. See guys, she's not unbeatable :)
I like breakdowns like these, but the more important part to show would be the midgame. Every time Kat roams to another lane she gets a double kill with Lvl6+ and after that she's such a pain in the ***
This is why you should read abilities, even of champions you don't play and get to understand them. Katarina's Q will always land 150 units behind the first target it hits, so if you walk towards her, the dagger won't land anywhere near you when it lands, meaning if she jumps to it you would already be over 200-300 units from it. If she does the W dagger before Q, if she does or does not jump to Q, jumping to her W is all she can do to damage you, and after that she has nothing left, her Q is still on CD, Her W was just used, Her Q dagger is miles away, and even if she has ult and her her E is up when she ults she can't dash to you more than once, and will have no dagger burst either.
I love watching this videos, i really do learn a lot, i do wish my teammates were scared of the spells instead of the champions. People reading this comment will be familiar with the "why did you not finish off the ezreal" because he is fed! ...but he used everything! You had him he has no spells available!..."but it's ezreal" other champs apply her but damn this happens too often in plat
Katarina made the few mistakes because she had to make 25/75 choices, and that happened because of dopa's gameplan; if you go into your games in full autopilot you will never be able to constantly apply pressure like high elo players do
@@kyleangelocastro9460 once I made a Katarina goes 0-3 with 29cs in 9-10 minutes, she tp botlane, I follow her, my teammates fighting nonsense cause they don't care about kat, she resets 4 times for a quadra kill I was the last one to die. Kat was back to the game, I managed to win, but still it was ridiculous how strong the champ is against dumb players, and I can't help to play with dumb people. I blind pick leblanc mid and I rather play against kassadin than her, kat is banned from my games 3 months already.
well if youre below diamond and kat picks before you just go panth and completely wreck her in lane, you have ult to follow up on her ganks and are generally a really good counter to kat.
I was like wait I saw that video before but it came out 19 hours ago... The moment I got confused for the first time with the skill capped site and UA-cam lmao
idk other people, but kat is not at all scary in lane, she's scary bc when she gets a roam bot and gets a double/triple and then hard carries and resets on your team. Also even in silver, people punish melee champs trying to last hit. Sure they dont do it as well as looking at their minions and such.
@@MrTriple3D And here we go again another random player which I bet that ever reached challenger (no matter the region) trying to belittle a main kat which plays with the champion for about 9 years and has a guide exclusively for her, did coach and know what is saying. GTFO!
I've played a lot of Katarina myself b4 she became extremely op (s9). She's easily punishable in lane like you've shown and the mistakes that this Katarina does are quite common. It's funny how you can pick champions like Xerath and poke the living hell out of her while outscaling her in the late game. Akali on the other hand has more safety. She can excel in those trades while staying in her shroud to take less minion aggro while restoring her energy bar, right?
Ignite at level 5 does 50+(20)(5)= 150. DOPA's last seen health was 103. So yeah, easy kill. On top of that since DOPA used a Health Potion, if timed after Oriana's shield it would have cut 5 seconds from the health pot which heals 10 HP per second. DOPA killed kata at 168 HP. 150 from ignite's damage + (50)(.6) cut damaged is 180 effective damage. Kata played so well that if he had used ignite he would've survived.
I see what you're saying, cause it is funny, but a) he had full mana and sitting at full mana is dumb anyway because you're wasting your regen and b) he procced manaflow band
@@amphibiousone You are right, funny how he regain 25 mana from manaflow, yet still he was much mower on his mana than Kat's hp. Which she regened in the next few seconds anyway. It's just one the reasons why most mages are so weak, not only because their items. Even when Dopa played flawlessly he almost lost that 1v1 (should Kata dodged that q-w with her E, which is not that hard)
ekko mid is also brutal counter to kat as her q always falls behind the target alot of times it lands closer to your clone and if she takes it you just 1 shot her xD Also she can never rly kill you if you use your ult for def
I felt good when dopa tried to bait the viego stun if he was in bush. And the thing is. Thats what i do. Always. If i wanna ward a bush. I always if iam suspicious. I would walk back as soon as i feel it. And sometimes i swear. I get saved
Katarina looses 90% of lanes. Katarina is strong because of roaming. If the enemy laner is not disabled, she is going to be useless all game. Play safe and punish every roam or counter her roams. She won't have nearly as much pressure as you think. When she buys first item, either Bork or Nashor's you have to stay away from her ult. She won't burst you down if she is not fed. You don't have to fear her unless she is fed but that applies to all champs...
had a mid match as ahri vs (im a noob so dont know names yet) a melee who kept tower diving to kill me, i ended up being able to out trade him, except it was a literal 2v1, they had no jg, but ended up they won cause everyone was bad lol
Kat went for another cs so even if she decided to E out dopa already had moved up to the wave where he can Q kat after she Es out of it and he has phase rush and can slow can so he still kills kat otherwise, only safe play for kat here was to back off and suffer a huge wave and since she has tp she could just roam bot after 6
If you meant her using E instantly after her two daggers drop then it's the same outcome dopa still has flash and kat doesn't have anything to get her out of the situation she already used her W on the wave and she used her E to get out then what? Dopa flashes in combos the kat and kills her
@@WhyDizzy Yeah thats what I meant but yeah I agree she would've probably died anyways but why she didnt e out instantly still doesnt make the sense to me
As a Katarina player myself, I can definitely say that it is equally as annoying to play Katarina into people who understand how Katarina works as it is to play against a Katarina. She is one of the most powerful champions in the game if she gets a lead, but she is also one of the most counterable champions in the game because of her weak laning phase and complete lack of utility or safety other than her blink. Katarina is amazing at punishing mistakes, but if your opponents don’t make that many mistakes, Katarina cannot do anything. This is why she is never played in pro play.
After all this work Dopa did he almost survived with one auto off dying . Mages life is rough but couldn't Kat kill him back then if used her skills on him not on the wave tho ? .. i mean he had no mana and she had bigger wave tho and she was healthy enough to almost kill him with most of her skills on CD too .. right ?
Most of the damage taken by dopa was from the red minions that he willingly dived into to get that kill If Kat tried to go for the kill and hit dopa instead Dopa would most certainly have won that way easier since Kat would be the one taking minion damage and her abilities are also pretty weak early and Orianna’s auto attacks are quite strong early so there’s no way she’d have won. If for some reason though she did actually have enough damage, and dopa was taking more minions damage, then Dopa would’ve just backed to turret. I literally cannot see a world in which Dopa would’ve gotten solo killed by Katarina unless Dopa misplays. Basically if Katarina takes a dagger in front of Orianna’s to then she’s already dead, it’s only a matter of how she dies.
You can counter kata assuming she takes flash ignite, but if she takes ignite tp, then there's no counter play to her in the game, no matter how bad a player she is, she will always get free kills with tp and just snowball the game.
I have honestly tried to do what you say in this video. But can't because my mechanics are too bad to click on her when she blinks around. She always gets crazy free damage on me because I'm bad mechanically and can't punnish anything. Obviously I won't play as well as dopa, but I shouldn't have to play like a challanger just to beat a some what decent silver Katarina.
That’s the thing I hate about kata, is that she’ll either be useless or get a double kill and snowball the game. Not worth a ban but annoying to play against :/ it’s like blitzcrank: a single hook late game can cost you the game but otherwise it’s not a good pick
And even target abilities wont aggro if they hit a minions first. A Kat dagger than bounces on you will not aggro minions, but it will if its a direct hit
Midbeast one day explained why he thought this would not work (apart from the fact that the guy is not interested) : dopa is mostly a one trick pony (TF, Orianna), and would be target-banned every game.
Is lvl1 Kata the main issue? I'd rather know how to deal with mid-late game Kata with 2000+ DPS and endless ability resets and great mobility, that thing feels like playing with cheats (I guess only immortality is missing)
'low elo players auto the wave for no reason' is this even true? i just started playing a few months ago and ive literally only seen at most 5 players doing this in my games so far
It's true. They either auto when they shouldn't or they throw abilities out to push when they shouldnt. You yourself just might still not be good enough to discern the difference when you're playing. You need a lot of game knowledge to know how and when to auto/push and how/when not to.
I mean this doesn’t matter at all. I once played Heimerdinger vs Yone, I poked the hell out of Yone and even got an early kill just like Dopa got one here. Then Yone simply got 1 kill with his R on my team mates, and I couldn’t do anything since he out heals my poke and whenever his R is up im basically a free kill.
health regen and sustain are way too good in this game right now. literally the only place mages are still good is bot because adcs (of fucking course adcs) basically have negative health regen and so poke actually matters for once
Since when is kata scary in lane? She has very little Winning matchups and if you play it safe and poke her down first few levels she can’t solo kill you. Katarinas just want to roam get fed and scale into late game where they can carry.
Kat can punish your mistakes harder than most. You say “played right” and you are correct. But how often do anyone play the entire game 100% correct 100% of the time. Kats ability to take advantage of the mistakes is what makes her op in most games except at the highest of skill levels.
thinking kata is op xD what a world, meanwhile poke champs exist, cc exist, MIA pings exist and wards xD now lets watch the video funny range has the advantage clearly kat streght isnt the lane in this match. a better video should be on lee sin and help low elo on bad matchs
The only people who can call katatina op are low elo no brains that cant avoid her daggers. Everyone above diamond realizes that the champ sucks until skirmishes come.
Dopa is life
All hail Dopa
Dopa Is love
Just pick Darius mid.
Also even bronze ppl know wave management at this point... Or is it just me?
Didn't he got a 1000 year ban tho? Lmao
I love breakdowns like these! This is an incredible amount of information that is very difficult to master. I am familiar with some of these concepts as a mid-Diamond Katarina player who studies DOPA frequently, but getting the breakdown from another PoV (especially someone higher rank than I) is a great gift.
Next video: how to make team mates listen to pings so kata doesn't roam and get 20 bot lane kills. XD
Spam em
Always ping 40 times, on your lane, as well as all the way down the roaming opponent's path, and maybe even some careful or danger pings on the teammates as well as a cherry on top. Don't leave it up to chance that they don't see it
@@Pincsi01 let them roam... Levels > kills
@@kadenli4617 true for most every champ except kata...
@@CitriReg you should be able to 1v1 a 40 cs 2/0 Kat at 10 minutes
As a high elo midlaner I can tell not many players are afraid of katarina, she isn't worth a ban tbh. We are scared of the coinflip teammates that apparently never played against a roaming midlaner in their entire lives.
#katarina is weak in lane
kata is easy to punish with ekko fr but once she has one item she comes back to the game
@@fuck_anx yea katarina is a snowballing mid game champ that spikes with nashors tooth.
brother you said it correctly especially when she has meju soul stealer
I'm only p1-d3 elo but I perma ping ny teammates whenever my enemy mid is missing sometimes I get teammates that listen but sometimes for some reason they just ignore me and gives a free gank and not only that they ping me for bot following up a gank, I legit just don't understand why they must perma fight every single time when they can just walk away and waste enemy mid's time putting both of our teams in an advantage
Damn this feels like a huge throwback to Dopa’s masterful TF vs Fizz gameplay video, this is one of my favourite videos along with that one, i’d really appreciate seeing more of these
This is the MASSIVE difference between low and high elo. In low elo there would have been at least 5 kills or deaths mid. In high elo its a game of strategic chess where every kill is a huge victory
Not even that, managing the wave in a way that forces your playstyle on the enemy can be already a decisive factor
“high elo players make critical pinpoint decisions” meaning you guys should analyze thebaus gameplay
Great video as always. I am currently stuck in Diamond 1, pretty much one of the worst elos you can be in, because of all the bought and boosted accounts. And watching this helps me to get better, to at some point smurf my way to Master and Grandmaster ^^. Thanks Skill Capped
i'm playing so often with/vs diamond/master players in normals and flex and they always suck so much. me and my friend are ALWAYS like "oh god. we got diamond in team again :'(" obviously boosted but their ego still big. sad. for example not once i've seen a diamond smiting their first camp as jungler! diamond adc not knowing at all how to kite and diamonds that would constantly push the wave vs shaco and then complain that their opponent "is too scared to fight 1v1" usually i'd be surprised if even gold would act like that.
So much action and drama on first 4 mins that a complete movie can be made out of the whole game with action pack details and suspense
How dopa wins against a katarina that is fed by your teammates even though you won lane
by apply enough pressure in first place to not let her go elsewhere xD?
@@Totch00 the fact that you think half the Katarina players care about minions/lane makes me laugh xD
Even challenger Katarinas drops entire waves to roam bot
@@00096 what is a boat? is it incoming next patch?
@@00096 ok good xD
@@00096 kat would for sure roam bot with less than half hp after getting fucked by dopa XD
Or you know, just play Qiyana mid and one shot everything that's in E range.
I love these videos because it remind me that I still have a lot to learn!
So what i took from the video is :
Kat did 2 huge mistakes .
Dopa played it PERFECTLY , yet he almost died if it weren't for the wall trick & kat skills was on CD .
Hmmmmmm
and that was pre lv 6 !
And didnt kat have ignite?..
If they where 6 he can stop her ult anytime she goes in
@@Alaaeddine_ and Katharina still gets a good amount of ult damage off before ori ult
ori was tanking 2 waves for a long time tho
Hu well man he was tanking waves for about 200-300 damages so... Well he played that perfectly but still
These videos are incredibly useful, after watching these I literally feel like a better player. Thank you!
Why didn't katarina just use her ignite at the end lol? Obviously dopa knew she had the summoner spell advantage and still stepped up to fight. He was literally 100 hp from death and the ignite could've easily killed him.
Dopa is built different
yep
a bit of a problem
Just to sum up the video for you guys:
- Know the ranges and cooldowns of every summoner spell in the game.
- Be able to tether like a pro (a very difficult ability)
- Contest every single minion.
- Always watch the minimap and use lane positioning perfectly.
- Do random moves like Dopa that even skillcapped doesn't understand.
If you do all of that perfectly, then you can beat OP champs like Katarina. See guys, she's not unbeatable :)
How can a player play this perfect, this is incredible
I like breakdowns like these, but the more important part to show would be the midgame. Every time Kat roams to another lane she gets a double kill with Lvl6+ and after that she's such a pain in the ***
This is why you should read abilities, even of champions you don't play and get to understand them. Katarina's Q will always land 150 units behind the first target it hits, so if you walk towards her, the dagger won't land anywhere near you when it lands, meaning if she jumps to it you would already be over 200-300 units from it. If she does the W dagger before Q, if she does or does not jump to Q, jumping to her W is all she can do to damage you, and after that she has nothing left, her Q is still on CD, Her W was just used, Her Q dagger is miles away, and even if she has ult and her her E is up when she ults she can't dash to you more than once, and will have no dagger burst either.
I love watching this videos, i really do learn a lot, i do wish my teammates were scared of the spells instead of the champions. People reading this comment will be familiar with the "why did you not finish off the ezreal" because he is fed! ...but he used everything! You had him he has no spells available!..."but it's ezreal" other champs apply her but damn this happens too often in plat
this video was extremely informative
Katarina made the few mistakes because she had to make 25/75 choices, and that happened because of dopa's gameplan; if you go into your games in full autopilot you will never be able to constantly apply pressure like high elo players do
I would enjoy a video but with Kata's perspective, to learn more about Katarina itself. Amazing video anyway, ty.
man you helped me so much im a hardstuck plat before now im currently in masters and still going strong
I swear I do things like that against Kat, she just tp any side lane, get two or three kills and snowball anyway
'if i can't win this lane, i'll win every other lanes'
Can’t you just countergank the Kat?
@@kyleangelocastro9460 "she just tp any side lane"
@@garretthafeli7499 tp as well to assert dominance
@@kyleangelocastro9460 once I made a Katarina goes 0-3 with 29cs in 9-10 minutes, she tp botlane, I follow her, my teammates fighting nonsense cause they don't care about kat, she resets 4 times for a quadra kill I was the last one to die. Kat was back to the game, I managed to win, but still it was ridiculous how strong the champ is against dumb players, and I can't help to play with dumb people.
I blind pick leblanc mid and I rather play against kassadin than her, kat is banned from my games 3 months already.
Good video, but all champios showed in the beginning are in favour of winning the matchup vs kata if played even. Even ori
"Katarina is OP"
Leona: And i took that personally.
this wall trick by dopa was super smart... u discover this fact by watch replay aftear tons of games u played .. and he played alot xD
theres a world where kat killed dopa because she didnt use ignite.
another 70 dmg + the healing reduction against the pots and runes
well if youre below diamond and kat picks before you just go panth and completely wreck her in lane, you have ult to follow up on her ganks and are generally a really good counter to kat.
Great video
Youre in the army now whoa ohhh youre in the army now
can you do a video on thebaus? and how he exploits deaths? i would like to see you guys perspective
As a katarina main, i hate when people exposing my champ :(
I was like wait I saw that video before but it came out 19 hours ago... The moment I got confused for the first time with the skill capped site and UA-cam lmao
idk other people, but kat is not at all scary in lane, she's scary bc when she gets a roam bot and gets a double/triple and then hard carries and resets on your team.
Also even in silver, people punish melee champs trying to last hit. Sure they dont do it as well as looking at their minions and such.
tp + kill > wave, also that kat didn't trade at all in lane.
6:29 didn't proc kat's eletrocute, so that was really bad :(
you think you're better than a challenger katarina? lmao
@@nva_69 I think I can say that 'cus my highest elo was challenger,, around 830PDL, so gtfo random, don't be mad I'm just sayings facts.
@@Lynter Korean challenger and brazillian challenger are 2 very different games buddy
@@MrTriple3D And here we go again another random player which I bet that ever reached challenger (no matter the region) trying to belittle a main kat which plays with the champion for about 9 years and has a guide exclusively for her, did coach and know what is saying. GTFO!
@@Lynter you can't even speak english correctly mate. can you please contruct a cohesive sentence so that i can get offended please?
I've played a lot of Katarina myself b4 she became extremely op (s9). She's easily punishable in lane like you've shown and the mistakes that this Katarina does are quite common. It's funny how you can pick champions like Xerath and poke the living hell out of her while outscaling her in the late game. Akali on the other hand has more safety. She can excel in those trades while staying in her shroud to take less minion aggro while restoring her energy bar, right?
Kat actually nearly killed dopa if ignited. When I watch korean katarinas, this scene happens a lot.
Ignite at level 5 does 50+(20)(5)= 150. DOPA's last seen health was 103. So yeah, easy kill. On top of that since DOPA used a Health Potion, if timed after Oriana's shield it would have cut 5 seconds from the health pot which heals 10 HP per second. DOPA killed kata at 168 HP. 150 from ignite's damage + (50)(.6) cut damaged is 180 effective damage. Kata played so well that if he had used ignite he would've survived.
I love this this guy
gold elo : contest drake
chall elo : contest minion
1:23 when using skillshots damages your mana bar more than enemies health bar
I see what you're saying, cause it is funny, but a) he had full mana and sitting at full mana is dumb anyway because you're wasting your regen and b) he procced manaflow band
@@amphibiousone You are right, funny how he regain 25 mana from manaflow, yet still he was much mower on his mana than Kat's hp. Which she regened in the next few seconds anyway. It's just one the reasons why most mages are so weak, not only because their items. Even when Dopa played flawlessly he almost lost that 1v1 (should Kata dodged that q-w with her E, which is not that hard)
The more i learn about league the more i feel like a noob
*Wish I could kill AD life steal Kat, I just can't kill her fast enough with any of my ADCs*
What you think about this type of Laning tips in wild rift ? Lolm, thx
And now I have to constantly deal with mid laners like Lux and Xerath in my fucking bot lane.
Thank you just made my laning phase more hell i one trick kata now ppl will know what to do against me.
When skill caped curse in their vid, I actually like it lol
ekko mid is also brutal counter to kat as her q always falls behind the target alot of times it lands closer to your clone and if she takes it you just 1 shot her xD Also she can never rly kill you if you use your ult for def
Do you think Dopa could do that ?
I felt good when dopa tried to bait the viego stun if he was in bush. And the thing is. Thats what i do. Always. If i wanna ward a bush. I always if iam suspicious. I would walk back as soon as i feel it. And sometimes i swear. I get saved
What did he do after the kill? Did he instantly recall or did he stay to change the wavestate?
Skill Capped's character progressing is kinda hot tbh UwU
but only since I've been watching and it's like I got to see a new side of someone, it takes work from both ends to make it meaningful
As a "high elo" player i like those strategy.
Step 1: Be Dopa.
omg did anyone saw this? 30-31s and dopa is doing his things
the 38 dislikes are from the kata mains :D
more dopa analysis please
Couldn't Katarina just ignite him there ?
if kat dodged that qw successfully, kat can kill dopa
Katarina looses 90% of lanes. Katarina is strong because of roaming. If the enemy laner is not disabled, she is going to be useless all game. Play safe and punish every roam or counter her roams. She won't have nearly as much pressure as you think. When she buys first item, either Bork or Nashor's you have to stay away from her ult. She won't burst you down if she is not fed. You don't have to fear her unless she is fed but that applies to all champs...
had a mid match as ahri vs (im a noob so dont know names yet) a melee who kept tower diving to kill me, i ended up being able to out trade him, except it was a literal 2v1, they had no jg, but ended up they won cause everyone was bad lol
Yone, zed.
Kat could've just E-ed out on her minion right away.. after clearing that wave
Kat went for another cs so even if she decided to E out dopa already had moved up to the wave where he can Q kat after she Es out of it and he has phase rush and can slow can so he still kills kat otherwise, only safe play for kat here was to back off and suffer a huge wave and since she has tp she could just roam bot after 6
If you meant her using E instantly after her two daggers drop then it's the same outcome dopa still has flash and kat doesn't have anything to get her out of the situation she already used her W on the wave and she used her E to get out then what? Dopa flashes in combos the kat and kills her
@@WhyDizzy Yeah thats what I meant but yeah I agree she would've probably died anyways but why she didnt e out instantly still doesnt make the sense to me
As a Katarina player myself, I can definitely say that it is equally as annoying to play Katarina into people who understand how Katarina works as it is to play against a Katarina. She is one of the most powerful champions in the game if she gets a lead, but she is also one of the most counterable champions in the game because of her weak laning phase and complete lack of utility or safety other than her blink.
Katarina is amazing at punishing mistakes, but if your opponents don’t make that many mistakes, Katarina cannot do anything. This is why she is never played in pro play.
After all this work Dopa did he almost survived with one auto off dying . Mages life is rough
but couldn't Kat kill him back then if used her skills on him not on the wave tho ? .. i mean he had no mana and she had bigger wave tho and she was healthy enough to almost kill him with most of her skills on CD too .. right ?
Most of the damage taken by dopa was from the red minions that he willingly dived into to get that kill
If Kat tried to go for the kill and hit dopa instead Dopa would most certainly have won that way easier since Kat would be the one taking minion damage and her abilities are also pretty weak early and Orianna’s auto attacks are quite strong early so there’s no way she’d have won. If for some reason though she did actually have enough damage, and dopa was taking more minions damage, then Dopa would’ve just backed to turret. I literally cannot see a world in which Dopa would’ve gotten solo killed by Katarina unless Dopa misplays.
Basically if Katarina takes a dagger in front of Orianna’s to then she’s already dead, it’s only a matter of how she dies.
You can counter kata assuming she takes flash ignite, but if she takes ignite tp, then there's no counter play to her in the game, no matter how bad a player she is, she will always get free kills with tp and just snowball the game.
Nice play by play. That Kat just wanted to b and got greedy trying to clear the wave
I have honestly tried to do what you say in this video. But can't because my mechanics are too bad to click on her when she blinks around. She always gets crazy free damage on me because I'm bad mechanically and can't punnish anything. Obviously I won't play as well as dopa, but I shouldn't have to play like a challanger just to beat a some what decent silver Katarina.
Please show how dopa plays tf next
if kata ignited dopa she would have traded 1 for 1 ..
That’s the thing I hate about kata, is that she’ll either be useless or get a double kill and snowball the game. Not worth a ban but annoying to play against :/ it’s like blitzcrank: a single hook late game can cost you the game but otherwise it’s not a good pick
How did Dopa not draw the minions aggro when using his Q on katarina at 0:43 ?
Abilities that aren't targeted don't draw minion agro.
@@harstar12345 Oh right. I was reading the Wiki and forgot that "targeted abilities" means point and click a target and not skill shot.
Thanks.
And even target abilities wont aggro if they hit a minions first. A Kat dagger than bounces on you will not aggro minions, but it will if its a direct hit
Nice One :)
Well, it's pretty easy to counter a champ who doesn't have a laning phase in the first place...
you're not accounting for the fact kata in low elo can just roam and get free kills
Can someone give him a coaching about how to lasthit lol😀
I just wish dopa get unleashed into the pro scene
Midbeast one day explained why he thought this would not work (apart from the fact that the guy is not interested) : dopa is mostly a one trick pony (TF, Orianna), and would be target-banned every game.
I'm pretty sure with how good he is learning meta champs is an ez task for him
@@firstlast-gh9ig I dont hes a otp. He has played other things
why sub on your site doesnt work
Is lvl1 Kata the main issue? I'd rather know how to deal with mid-late game Kata with 2000+ DPS and endless ability resets and great mobility, that thing feels like playing with cheats (I guess only immortality is missing)
Throw in botrk and she’s healing everything back whilst resetting all combos. I guess that makes her almost immortal.
watching this as a kata player. im just like ._.
the thumbnail made me laugh
'low elo players auto the wave for no reason'
is this even true? i just started playing a few months ago and ive literally only seen at most 5 players doing this in my games so far
It's true. They either auto when they shouldn't or they throw abilities out to push when they shouldnt. You yourself just might still not be good enough to discern the difference when you're playing. You need a lot of game knowledge to know how and when to auto/push and how/when not to.
Why did kat not use her ignite?
people saying kat is op have no idea how the game works
I mean this doesn’t matter at all. I once played Heimerdinger vs Yone, I poked the hell out of Yone and even got an early kill just like Dopa got one here. Then Yone simply got 1 kill with his R on my team mates, and I couldn’t do anything since he out heals my poke and whenever his R is up im basically a free kill.
low iq
@@lefroste6370
Low indeed, rammus here, rammus no kill heime, rammus don't know how turrets do so much damage, rammus dead
health regen and sustain are way too good in this game right now. literally the only place mages are still good is bot because adcs (of fucking course adcs) basically have negative health regen and so poke actually matters for once
What's the name of Analyst ?
but kat is ALWAYS shit in lane tho, orianna is a nightmare for her
Still the greatest solo que player of all time.
Since when is kata scary in lane? She has very little Winning matchups and if you play it safe and poke her down first few levels she can’t solo kill you. Katarinas just want to roam get fed and scale into late game where they can carry.
If Kata ignited him and give up the minions she can kill him, it's just poor play from her.
im not scared if katarina cuz im the one playing her
Katarina is not op at all.
95% of the champions can absolutely destroy her if played right.
Pretty much but then sometimes you'll run into the problem where no listens to pings and she gets a free double. 😂
But the more mistakes you make, the more fed katarina will be (I’m a kat otp)
@@jamalmignuggets yeah, but that’s not kat being op, its just the enemy team giving her kills for fun 😂
Kat can punish your mistakes harder than most. You say “played right” and you are correct. But how often do anyone play the entire game 100% correct 100% of the time. Kats ability to take advantage of the mistakes is what makes her op in most games except at the highest of skill levels.
No champion is OP at all.
100% of the champions can absolutely destroy any other champion if played right.
When are we getting a discord channel =-)
well dopa still ends up at 10% hp
thinking kata is op xD what a world, meanwhile poke champs exist, cc exist, MIA pings exist and wards xD
now lets watch the video
funny range has the advantage clearly kat streght isnt the lane in this match.
a better video should be on lee sin
and help low elo on bad matchs
This guide doesn't work . You gotta play an equally OP champ.
How does your title say OP champs and then we're showing fucking Katarina of all champs in a matchup she shouldn't ever win.
can we show love for veigar (:
The only people who can call katatina op are low elo no brains that cant avoid her daggers. Everyone above diamond realizes that the champ sucks until skirmishes come.