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Thanks for shout-out (so to speak). For fans of Caverns of Thracia, Goodman Games now owns the adventure and will be doing a kickstarter for it sometime in the coming year as part of their next Original Adventures Reincarnated series.
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I made my terrain years ago as well , pre children , now my children and thier friends are the main gamers, my daughter loves crafting , so we usually craft one day a week , little more in the summer. Thank you for this post
The irony of painting rocks to look like rocks is scrumptious.
This initial paint job reminds me of an Iron Mine. The party finds themselves in a massive vein of iron, contested over by Dwarves and Goblins
Your cavern videos weren't bad, terrain craft has just come a long way since those days.
Also realizing "Scotty had it right a while back" is pretty much a universal experience.
I cannot overstate the importance of repainting. I love how Wyloch hits this point multiple times. I can't count the number of times all that was needed was a repaint to move something from the trash pile to the game pile.
I used this great technique for Ice caverns in the day… found the light aspect of an ice background allowed my figs to “pop” as you say.
I really like the retro cartoon/videogame aesthetic of the blue and brown before the dry brush. Reminds me of the super limited textures and colors back in the day
Awesome!
Those details on the pillars are so cool, look like they were magically lifted
I always love seeing you try new things, and if you feel that this method is better for you, more power to you, but I have to say, your tiles are what first brought me to this channel, and while I absolutely understand your comments that these methods are much easier and that from 2-3 feet, you can't really see the detail, I still think that your earlier tiles are some of the best looking terrain i've ever seen made on youtube, even the cavern tiles that you apparently aren't fond of. In fact, I think my favorites are you underdark tiles, which I believe were based on your cavern tiles.
That TP "clay" trick is great. I imagine to would would well to make a shape out of foil and then wrap it in TP.
Can you do desert themed too? Love your work. Followed for years.
i agree, please make some open desert scenografy
You mentioned repainting those stalagmite pillars for underdark … Jeremy over at Black Magic Craft has a really cool dead simple underdark set he made out of cheap foamcore-he cut kind of irregular ovalish shapes and just glued them together, weighted them down, and painted them in pink and purple with I think some unnatural-seeming shades for fungi and underdark-adapted plants.
I think the simple terrain is kinda cool, but I loved how the paint came out on it.
With using inks for making washes, you don't need the flow improver. They're thin enough to easily work without the added stuff for it.
For the rock piles and columns, one thing to consider is that the rock piles are things that could be crossed over and used for cover while popping up to shoot over it. Columns aren't able to do that there.
As a side note, for your acid pools, I would actually suggest not using resin for it, you can use some of the higher gloss polyeurethane, pretty much, the exact same way, but with less chances of things going wrong with them and tends to be cheaper to do.
Great video! I like your final color scheme a lot. When it comes to a large floor tile, I prefer square over round. The square gives me the flexibility to add additional large floor tiles for a truly huge chamber
There are so many great things in this video. Thank you for leaving in the first attempt and salvage painting. It's an important reminder that we don't need to completely start over if we screw up.
My favorite besides the cavern itself are the acid pools. The neon basecoat under a dark over brush really gives a nice pop of acid green in the final product.
👍Terrific tips!
Very nice setup, it turned out great.
The acid pit may have been an experiment but it turned out great.
I wonder how much of this kind of thing was created back in the day? There was no social media so it got lost too time. Its good that there is a video diary on this amazing process. Its strange reading old modules and seeing the pictures. Such memories from the 80's.
Caverns of Thracia is such a brilliant example of a megadungeon. There has never been another dungeon designer like Jennell Jacquays. She's a legend!!!
So many great little ideas here. Thanks wyloch!
Good video. Nice to see refreshers for doing the basics. Thanks!
I am really loving these videos. Thanks so much for doing these.
Hey, I loved those old cavern tile vids. How I found your channel bitd. :)
Awesome! Always enjoy the basics
when doing my stalegmites and columns i bulked them with tin foil which i built up a lighter layer of the paper clayand it took much less time to dry, but still got me the same results as in the vid.
for the skeliton of the columns instead of making my own tubes i bought tubes of candy. this was both easier and more delicious than making my own tubes. i made mine from after eight stick packaging, but most of those tubes you see at Xmas would work
Great save!!! Glad you kept going. Proves that sometimes all you have to do is pivot press on! 👍👍
Love the combination of the UDT and additional elements
I made a off shoot of the old version, bunch of tiles I use to this day. I can see me using these with them, provided I remember the colors..... Good stuff man
Toilet paper is under-utilized in crafting. It's designed to disintegrate so its perfect. If you add plaster, salt and use hot water, you get an advanced material (sold as Scultamold).
salt? never heared that you should add it.
whats the difference using salt?
I was half-expecting you to bring out the Hirst Arts molds.. Interesting.
Man, that's a huge UDT you got there 😳Good call on the repaint, the second paint scheme is great! For the stalagmites, if someone is in a hurry they can build the bulk up with aluminum foil before applying the paper clay, still takes a few hours to dry though.
................foil. DUH. Pinning.
I remember it like this; stalagmite has a G because it comes from the ground, stalactite has a C because because it comes from the ceiling.
> Has gray dungeon tiles, so doesn't want gray caverns
> Doesn't want it all brown
> Want's colors that pop
> Takes interesting terrain with colors that pop and repaints it all gray and brown
> "Nice. That's the result I was hoping for."
As long as you're happy, I guess. (not that there's anything wrong with the brown cavern scheme)
Those pools look really amazing. Although, I think I personally would've used the same toilet paper mache technique you used for the base of the pillars for the rim of the pools to tie the different terrain pieces together.
I am nothing if not consistently inconsistent.
those neon acid pools looks like a radioactive pools from original fallout. Great stuff for cheesy postapocalyptic action... :)
If you can get yourself an old Trivial Pursuit board, you can peel back the paper and paint/texture dungeon/cavern floors. They fold up great as a terrain base.
if you want your toilet paper clay to cure/dry faster add plaster of paris to the water & glue to a milk or cream consistency (maybe equal parts.) That way it will do the endo-thermic thing.
oh with the acid one, i did something similar with my toxic waste containers i made, only i just put a ink drop into the resin then blew through a straw to get some colour variation.
So early the paint is still drying.
Lol "Rocks from the outside"
I got good results by just buying some sheet corkboard squares of the coarser style, about 1/3 inch thick, breaking it up into irregular pieces, coating it over with gloss Modpodge for a wet look, and then after it dried, laying it out either as a 2.5D single layer, or stacking pieces two or three layers high. It's a nice variegated dark brown without further painting. Works very well laid over Arcknight cavern maps, or other brownish cavern floors.
You had me at 'supplant'.
Dungeon sticks for the win!
I found that using watered down paint for highlighting removes most of the sharp contrast between colors ( frosting as you call it ).
I personally use roughly ~25% paint to ~75% water for this, making sure to take my time to prevent any pooling.
It's such a joy to watch how your ideas and results have developed!
Ask your local supermarket for some scrap styrofoam to cut out the pillars and cliffs from, then coat those with pva+water soaked sheets of folded toilet paper (2 pieces of 4-ply folded up works nicely). Keep the bottom free, as players wont need to see that area. This prevents ANY warping, and cuts the drying time down to 12 hours. Shape your models in the evening, paint them in the morning.
this is prefect
Really appreciate your videos! Do you have any warping with the straight pva glue over chipboard? Thanks again for sharing all the knowledge
If you do, just paint a good layer of PVA on the bottom afterwards and let it sit there, upright, drying for a FULL 24 hours. It'll counter-warp it.
So excited to try this! I tried clicking on the video box for the circular cavern, but wouldn't work. Where can I find this?
Yep! You guessed it, I’m binge watching this whole new series. Very “schwang!” Chinese for nice! Hehe… It just sounds cool, like “super-schwang!” 😂
CAVERNS OF THRACIA
Hail master Scotty
I love the new terrain, you can incorporate any of your projects/pieces from the past into the terrain and it looks amazing! Quick question, can you use Sculptamold as opposed to the toilet paper method?
Certainly. I just try to operate under the assumption that my audience doesn't have access to or want to spend money
@@WylochsArmory Thanks Bill, I completely appreciate your techniques for making amazing looking terrain on a budget...the toilet paper method looks amazing!
I wonder if you used something like a poker chip for the column base instead pf chipboard if that would avoid the warping.
This with the Underdark scheme is where I am headed!
4:57 And you've seen rocks that weren't lifeless? What strange, alien beings did you discover?
Great video. I'm thinking of using DM Scotty's toilet paper clay on the walls instead of the soldering iron, do you think I could get similar results or would the walls turn out too rounded because of the paper?
It works great, actually.
My mnemonic for stalactites and stalagmites:
Stalagmites have a G, and they attach to the ground.
Stalactites have a C, and they attach to the ceiling.
I must be looking right past it but where is the link to the video showing how to build the floor circle? Thanks!
How did you get such super clean lines for the grid of your ultimate dungeon terrain?
Soldering iron
Cool stuff. Looking forward to some more sci-fi videos as well.
In particular, you might be aware a few companies have been putting out 1:18 and 1:12 action figures for a well known GB franchise that has to do with war and hammers in the future. My gaming group quickly assembled enough of those to play Kill Team (actually we are now to combat patrol level) games with those. The big problems we are now facing reminds us of our old 80's selves: we have nicely painted figures, but we play on kitchen table (mostly fllors, actually) with scenry made from books, containers and little else...any help?
Black and gray spray paint. Base a cardboard box like a kleenex box or something with black. Then give sporadic, quick passes with the gray for variation. That's a two-minute insta-start. If you have a whole afternoon though - ua-cam.com/video/HuMvK5VhQsk/v-deo.html
Wyloch, what do you think? Metal surface under to ground surface. Strong-ish magnets with the weights. Should be able to keep the terrain pieces in place?
Sure could, but probably overkill / not necessary.
@@WylochsArmory That's me... Overkill. I have this tendency to break things way too easily. I once poled a cabinet with my index finger at work. We then spent three hours fixing it. Hence I tend to like to build and engineer things to take abuse. :)
Very nice, but one question hunts me, where did you get that round base piece from? it looks very large, could make use of such a big round piece :P
Wow.
I did actually like the 1st paint job better, obviously you needed to tone down the wash, but loved the blue/brown contrast. Will probably be stealing that :). I would say for terrain the best is actually a mixed brown/black wash... I find plain brown wash usually unsatisfying & it just doesn't add enough definition. I will heartily confirm as someone who uses a lot of inks that a little goes a VERY long way. Vice versa, I wouldn't worry too much about adding too much flow-aid
On the acid pools: Process could be optimized to be less error prone with the materials as follows - trace in pen(cil) the outlines on 1 piece of chipboard, cut that out. Use as a stencil for the 2nd layer of chipboard. Glue together, & add ring of hot glue, proceed as before. Personally, I haven't found a good local source of MDF & I'm probably not the only one. Chipboard/cardboard is WAY easier to find IMO. Also of note, you can get fluorescent inks & they work very well for adding a 'glow' effect on liquid surfaces
Hey where are the minis from in this video? Heroes Horde or some other well kept secret? Thanks
I know for a fact that the Halfling wizard at 3:00 is from Reaper Miniatures.
Im curious as to why you chose to go with a dungeon stone look for the cavern floor as opposed to a more natural “dirt” floor? Was it because of the grid?
That circle was originally for doing dungeons. Then I put it away for five years. Then I found it recently and decided to just repaint it instead carving a whole new one.
Can you buy just the cavern base paint? I can only find it min a box set
Any burnt umber will work. In fact I switched to it after running out of cavern base.
The whole set is really nice. The stone work on those walls and pillars is stellar.
Is Apple Barrel just a sort of cheap acrylic paint? I feel like my current set of miniature paints from Vallejo, Citadel and P3 would probably be quite expensive to use for dungeons of this size. Is a generic acrylic paint (probably watered down) useful here? My wife has tons of big tubes of acrylic paint so wondering if I can just…requisition them instead.
Yep. Cheap acrylic paints like that work fine for large terrain.
That came out pretty cool. I like that everything is so modular.
👍
make some stuff with glow in the dark paint or resin
I know I'm really late with this comment but, do you have a video where you make the UDT as well?
I do not. You would simply watch Prof DM's video. I have nothing to add to that.
Am new to dnd. Really dig your teaching style and your honesty with how you learn from your mistakes and the why behind you do what you without getting tedious. You manage to be very personable. Thank you
I came for the acid pools and was not disappointed! Love it ❤️
Well this answers a few of my questions from FB. Thanks.
Add some lava flows and you got yer Fractured Hellscapes
i've been watching your videos for a long time now and... where.. oh where.. do you get your flocking sand and pebbles from?? is it actual gaming brand? is it from a store like Lowe's or Menard's? did you rob a construction site? (j/k lol)
The sand is quikcrete construction, comes in a 50 pounds bag at Lowe's or Home Depot for about five bucks. Not sure if you are US based...?
yup. i have both as well as Menard's in my hometown.
what about the small pebbles you typically use for flocking and small rock details on terrain? similar product at those stores?
@@the_hellequin Honestly don't remember but I THINK I used a collander / strainer on the construction sand because it's a mixed aggregate.
ah, fair enough. i'll have to make trip to Lowe's sometime this week and give it a shot. sadly i've finally gotten the motivation for making some tile/terrain crafting but have no face to face group to use it for lol
Next time just make the columns upside down 😂
absolutely terrible that it took me all these years to just notice a good way to make trees like that. i am a tremendous idiot hahaha
No... this is not my first exposure to crafting... I've exposed myself many times. 🤔
I liked your original cavern tiles (eps. #028) Bill, and especially the paint scheme! I still use it for expanded cavern tiles I make, because it screams "CAVERN"! My players agree.
Psst... I take all the credit... don't tell 'em!🤫
Okay, I had to pause the video to say that LED lighting arch is genius.
waaaa cuanta epicidad al ver tus escenografias, yo por mi parte veo tus videos para inspirarme y hacer las propias mias para jugar con mis amigos al D&D...gracias por el video y espero mas y mas Maestro...suerte y exitos :)
I was amazed at how rock-like you managed to get the big stones on the rubble scatter. Then I realized they were actual rocks. xD
Regardless, the results are excellent! 👍
Any reason you turned back to the pva method for beginers? I feel like it's been well established that molding compound is the most effective method
My channel tries to always stay devoted to beginners and thriftyness. Sometimes I stray. But my mission is cheap and simple. There's plenty of other channels about doing epic professional looking results with more advanced materials. That ain't me.
@@WylochsArmory fair enough man I dig it
Looks like granite
Sigh, I am sure I will get hate for this, but.... I used to hang out at this game store when I was in highschool. The owner liked to make his own terrain and he used a hot carver like yours and foam just like this. He never wore a respirator, no fan, no windows in the store front even. Shockingly I myself, he, and everyone else around have not all died of some weird chemical exposure.
Safety is nice, but youtube trolls and a lot of pundits take it to stupidly farther than it needs to be taken. Nothing I have ever seen you do on this channel needs more than an open window and normal room sized ventilation.
Agree. Just covering my a$$. I never use a respirator cept this one time.
Stalagmite = Held tight to the floor.... Stalagmite = Might fall on your head from above.....
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