Are you familiar with NES Remix on Wii U and 3DS? It's kind of exactly what you were describing. This but not so grounded. Though I wouldn't be surprised if this is made by the same team. I wish and hope this leads to some Remix appearing on the Switch.
It's weird that he considers Balloon Fight the worst one considering Ice Climber, a game where ledges can and cannot exist at the same time, is on the list.
@@grapesoftime I actually don't like Balloon fight, but he was complaining about a lot of games that he's never played and never bothered to learn and just said the missions were 'stupid' and/or random.
I was hoping to see Kid Icarus. I played it a lot when I was a kid, and remember it being both very difficult, and somehow mysterious-I had no idea where I was supposed to go, what I was supposed to do, nor what most of the items did. Getting turned into an eggplant was always funny though.
The mysterious factor really helped those older games. Since there wasn't an internet or UA-cam to look things up you had to rely on your own exploration or your friends to help you out. It was always fun to figure things out on your own😁
The first Kid Icarus challenge being the hardest is 100 percent true to the experience of playing the full game. It starts off brutal, and then gets way easier once you're past the first level.
Balloon Flight is just controlling with accelerations instead of direct movement, if that wasn't the case there would be no challenge/point in the game. I'm sure you can get used to it, Ice Climber physics is harder to control
20:10 the koopa's position isn't different, Luigi just has lower traction than Mario so he's slightly slower getting going. Side note, I remember watching one of your super vintage streams of Mario Bros 2 lost levels (snes version) where you played as Luigi for your first ever time beating the game. Thought it was hilarious because talk about a brutal introduction.
I S-ranked the Balloon Fight challenges early on because I was the ONLY kid I knew who had that game and actually liked it. I was lmao at your reactions to it. Brought back so many memories of friends leaving my house in disgust lol
I'd say the same opinion my uncle said when he played this game on my Switch - the generous S ranking time parameters is to give casuals the incentive to keep playing. The "S" is for the casuals, the second-millisecond timer is for the hardcores. Casuals won't see the appeal of a "I did sub-3 seconds on this challenge" but if you show them an A+ or an S, things they can easily understand as a scoring convention, that gives the incentive for them to keep unlocking and playing the other challenges.
Balloon Fight was one of the games we loved and played the most as kids XD We rarely played alone tho, so maybe it's simply a better experience with the chaotic, "floaty" controls when you have someone to laugh and get into a mild panic with?
This is beyond fun to watch. I grew up with these games, and you're just expertly dismantling them. 😄 I watched over an hour of your livestream before checking this one out. I'll go back and finish that video later, but I've always had a soft spot for Kid Icarus and Zelda 2. Fantastic video; and quite frankly, what a great idea for a game as a whole.
I appreciate how fast you put up this follow-up. Thanks so much! Also, I'm sorry you soured on the game so fast. You were so excited early on. I'll be on the look out for the Legendary video!
@@thenonexistinghero I'm talking about doing small objectives in the game as fast as possible. I don't think that needs a bad game but if that's all that it is, it's good to know before dropping 60 bucks
Don't ever get hit by the eggplant wizard in Kid Icarus (Pit from Smash) They turn you into an eggplant with legs and then you can't shot till you find a doctor in the dungeon
Even worse is some of the challenges have straight up RNG you have to overcome. You can get patterns fighting Wispy Woods for example, that make an S rank impossible
I really enjoy watching your videos and wanted to share a couple of tips that might help you shave off some time in Mario Bros 2 levels. I hope you find them useful! In the first level, instead of falling into the "hole" to get to the door, you can use the game's ability to teleport from left to right. If you fall very close to the edge of the left side and move offscreen to the left, you'll reappear on the right side and can just press up to enter the door. This might save you some time, as it avoids the risk of hitting the hill on the way down and trying to get right into the crack. Also, in the cloud jumping level, you had the right idea of jumping straight up but couldn't quite make the final jump. If you try jumping to the left and land on the cloud on the right side of the screen, it can save you time. This trick can be used in many parts of Mario 2, and seeing your runs makes me want to get this game. Thanks for the great content, and keep up the fantastic work!
There should have been a way for players to create their own challenges and upload them online for other players to try and beat. Granted, all of these games would have needed to be available in their entirety for players to create their respective challenges, but that would have made this AMAZING!
Great to hear you love Zelda II too! Finished it many times. Killer music too! This game is indeed not that great. Fun for a moment but gets quick boring. So yeah I agree 100% with your opinion. Also if you love Zelda II play also BATT:E OF OLYMPUS! I only finished it once....But damn, what a great game and also killer music!!
I like the game a lot. I agree the beginning trials aren't that interesting but they're also short anyways. Its not a 9/10 game but 7/10 for sure, and thats where it seems to be landing among critics and fans. I think you're a bit harsh on it to be honest.
1:10:59 I think it still has potential in a Trackmania/Mario Makerway where a person can go into a game, set a goal and start point then run the challenge themselves and post it for other people to try. Trackmania has a mechanic called the "Author Medal" where the person who creates/posts the level can race their track and choose a run to set as the standard time for people to beat. Use that as the S rank here and you have yourself a game.
If you choose to play Kid Icarus, play the 3D Classic version on 3DS if you can. New backgrounds for all stages. Saves instead of passwords, Famicom music, and no slow downs.
At first I wasn't sure if I'd like this game. I absolutely love it. I've never really tried speed running any games. I love the challenge of the speed running mode. Not only am I getting better with every attempt, when I go play the full length games on ninetndo switch online NES I've noticed I'm better 30-38 years later on all them. It's a great feeling.
I like the fact that the tutorial challenges are easy to complete but hard to get S ranks on unless you really know what you are doing (for the most part)
I played through the lost levels on the SNES-SMB-Allstars-version with both Mario and Luigi. Luigi takes some getting used to, but ultimately, his massive jumps and slipperiness often make him super fast and fun to play.
Ironically, Nintendo did some of Ryu's wishes in the predecessor to the Nintendo World Championships NES -- NES Remix. The oddball remixes there were more akin to what was wished for. Even going so far as some of the remixes being cross game stuff (like Link in a Mario game)
The world championship could provide so much more gameplay by making it a bit more interesting. Making it different games each time would be the biggest help, but even different modes like double elimination, team mode, voting on the game, or some type of draft. The best moment was in Mario 2 when the guy skipped the carpet entirely and jumped over the gap. It would be great if more challenges had different strats like that which weren't immediately known.
Ryuuuu!! We want the raw experience. 😀 Watching you tweaking and finetuning every movement and saving some miliseconds here and there is so satisfying. The 4 hours were great!! In case it's boring we can fast forward by ourselves. Thank you, man! Love you! 🙂
Kirby was - and still is - a very good game with a lot of hidden stuff and one of the best NES endboss fights ever. In my opinion it is one of the best Kirby games that have been released until today.
I'm surprise they don't mention in the Kirby's challenge that you can slide by pressing down and the jump button. It could help a lot with some ground ennemies
Around 1:04:00, you were pushing yourself away with each hit, THAT'S why it wasn't damaging him - you weren't hitting him. His hitbox isn't as big as you'd think it is. An easier way is to up-stab him in the chin, you should have that ability in this.
Im exactly on your side. A really cool thing for me would be, if you can post own challenges (like maps can be posted in Super Mario Maker) and other players could beat your time on them. And calculated on how many can beat them, they are classified to wich league they are counted and with moderation they become part of the world championship mode. And yeah, we talk about speed running. So there should be a mode for the elite, where you go through a whole game too. There the time is taken from one intermediate goal to the other till the game is beaten. That would be a great game.
Regarding those RNG-dependent segments, I suspect the RNG is tied to your movement or the amount of time that passed or something. Something similar happens with the Zelda segments, where sometimes the movement of the enemies is different and sometimes it’s predictable as long as you can replicate your exact or very similar inputs at key points. In this way, it’s actually fairly easy to manipulate said RNG to your favor, which makes the whole thing much more manageable.
part 3 is up! ua-cam.com/video/LmGy7W0QWus/v-deo.html - legend challenge.
Are you familiar with NES Remix on Wii U and 3DS? It's kind of exactly what you were describing. This but not so grounded. Though I wouldn't be surprised if this is made by the same team. I wish and hope this leads to some Remix appearing on the Switch.
Kid Icarus playthrough needs to happen!
It's weird that he considers Balloon Fight the worst one considering Ice Climber, a game where ledges can and cannot exist at the same time, is on the list.
"These challenges suck!" - no dude, you just don't know how the game works and aren't taking any time to learn
The Balloon Fight enjoyers have logged on
@@grapesoftime I actually don't like Balloon fight, but he was complaining about a lot of games that he's never played and never bothered to learn and just said the missions were 'stupid' and/or random.
"I don't know who I am or where I'm from, all I know is I must kill".
Ryu while playing Kid Icarus.
I was hoping to see Kid Icarus. I played it a lot when I was a kid, and remember it being both very difficult, and somehow mysterious-I had no idea where I was supposed to go, what I was supposed to do, nor what most of the items did. Getting turned into an eggplant was always funny though.
I really hope ryukahr plays Kid Icarus for real. It really was one of my favorites to play as a kid.
The mysterious factor really helped those older games. Since there wasn't an internet or UA-cam to look things up you had to rely on your own exploration or your friends to help you out. It was always fun to figure things out on your own😁
@@justanotherlikeyou couch gaming with neighborhood friends instead of headset online gaming with internet friends.
Kirby can run with a guy in his mouth, but I can't even breathe.
Ayoooo 😂
The first Kid Icarus challenge being the hardest is 100 percent true to the experience of playing the full game. It starts off brutal, and then gets way easier once you're past the first level.
Nintendo is probably the last company I would have expected to release a video game where speedrunning is the goal, but here we are.
But it sucks...
It's their "fun for everyone" take on speedrunning that they've probably been trying to figure out how to wedge themselves into for some time now.
@@Mr.scooter-le8yo It's pretty good.
Bro didn't see the 80's and 90's. We had tons of these speedrun games.
@@Mr.scooter-le8yo how does it suck? it's a bunch of mini games of old nes games with a speedrunning theme. do you just not like speedrunning?
Balloon Flight is just controlling with accelerations instead of direct movement, if that wasn't the case there would be no challenge/point in the game. I'm sure you can get used to it, Ice Climber physics is harder to control
20:10 the koopa's position isn't different, Luigi just has lower traction than Mario so he's slightly slower getting going. Side note, I remember watching one of your super vintage streams of Mario Bros 2 lost levels (snes version) where you played as Luigi for your first ever time beating the game. Thought it was hilarious because talk about a brutal introduction.
How do you have ff wizard in your name!?
@@Ariesgodtron Think I was gifted a membership during a recent Livestream.
I had Balloon Fight on a 42-in-1 cartridge and used to play it all the time. I gotta buy this.
Seeing you collect the S rankings scratches an itch I forgot I had and makes me want to play this game.
PLEASE post a video of you running the Legendary Trial 🤘🏻
“Kirby has the best challenges” - Ryu 2024
In Balloon FIight's defense, the controls are probably an accurate simulation of how it would be to CONTROL A FLOATING BALLOON.
46:34 Ryu just went full sadness mode. Look at his sad little face!
I literally just finished the 4 hour vod from the other day and was wishing for more world championship content lol
Bro in balloon Fight 😂
Making sounds 👾💀
when i was a kid, i always thought Metroid was a lion that shot bullets out its arm
Very logical. You were probably right.
You mean Samus
@@johnsmith-rp5bg yes, yes i do
@@TobysKpopTop50I subscribed to your UA-cam channel
When I wa a kid, I thought Samus was a robot named Metroid. XD
I S-ranked the Balloon Fight challenges early on because I was the ONLY kid I knew who had that game and actually liked it. I was lmao at your reactions to it. Brought back so many memories of friends leaving my house in disgust lol
Yeah engagement will drop quickly and this'll die fast unless they pump it with loads of free updates, Fzero99 style.
they will have to release more nes games and challenges otherwise yes eventually the base will drop out. but the initial release is solid.
So weird that the "harder" the challenge the time for S rank is much more forgiving
Difficulty describes how difficult the challenge is to complete at any rank, not how hard S rank is.
I'd say the same opinion my uncle said when he played this game on my Switch - the generous S ranking time parameters is to give casuals the incentive to keep playing. The "S" is for the casuals, the second-millisecond timer is for the hardcores. Casuals won't see the appeal of a "I did sub-3 seconds on this challenge" but if you show them an A+ or an S, things they can easily understand as a scoring convention, that gives the incentive for them to keep unlocking and playing the other challenges.
It makes total sense
Youre more prone to make mistakes the harder the challenge is
25:46
"WhAt DiD hE sAyyyyyYYYY?!?!"
Balloon Fight was one of the games we loved and played the most as kids XD
We rarely played alone tho, so maybe it's simply a better experience with the chaotic, "floaty" controls when you have someone to laugh and get into a mild panic with?
51:14 says to separate the tutorial challenges, but fails horribly on the next ones 😂
This is beyond fun to watch. I grew up with these games, and you're just expertly dismantling them. 😄 I watched over an hour of your livestream before checking this one out. I'll go back and finish that video later, but I've always had a soft spot for Kid Icarus and Zelda 2. Fantastic video; and quite frankly, what a great idea for a game as a whole.
16:02 the realization lol
😂😂😂 Balloon fight... My lord I'd have to change my shirt as well if i was forced to play these challenges 😂😂😂 id be in rage
Balloon fight is a terrible game.
Kid Icarus is the perfect game for a new debunking the difficulty!!
Kirby so underrated
*pro tip:* in *kirbys adventure* you get a ton of momenton when you slide off a ledge. Try it out yourself!
I appreciate how fast you put up this follow-up. Thanks so much! Also, I'm sorry you soured on the game so fast. You were so excited early on.
I'll be on the look out for the Legendary video!
So basically.... this game is NES Remix? Am I right? 🤔
no, this is NES world championships. Check the title.
Kind of, but more focused on speedrun.
Without the Remix part. Basically while it's more polished, it's inferior because it just lacks in variety.
@@thenonexistinghero I'm talking about doing small objectives in the game as fast as possible. I don't think that needs a bad game but if that's all that it is, it's good to know before dropping 60 bucks
@@Antnj81It’s 30 for the base game. For 60 you get physical things like a gold NES cartridge and stuff.
We give Balloon Fight a pass because it was created by the late Iwata Sempai Sama
This reminds me of the nes remix games for wii u
Ballon Fight was hilarious to watch 😂
Don't ever get hit by the eggplant wizard in Kid Icarus (Pit from Smash)
They turn you into an eggplant with legs and then you can't shot till you find a doctor in the dungeon
That first Kid Icarus one is no joke! I still havnt got it!
The sprite slowdown is a challenge in itself with some of these games.
Even worse is some of the challenges have straight up RNG you have to overcome. You can get patterns fighting Wispy Woods for example, that make an S rank impossible
25:47 yes very interesting ryu lol
Major Pause! lol
For the first Kid Icarus challenge: jump while crouching so you don’t bonk your head on the ceiling. Saves you some time.
Balloon Kid was great on Gameboy.
CALIFOOOOORNIA! 😂
I would love to see a full kirby speedrun
Caught up with the vod and came back only to realize he did not make an S shape on the level completion screen on purpose lmao that's insane
25:47 - That IS interesting.
20:15 nope... Luigi just sucks at accelerating haha
I really enjoy watching your videos and wanted to share a couple of tips that might help you shave off some time in Mario Bros 2 levels. I hope you find them useful!
In the first level, instead of falling into the "hole" to get to the door, you can use the game's ability to teleport from left to right. If you fall very close to the edge of the left side and move offscreen to the left, you'll reappear on the right side and can just press up to enter the door. This might save you some time, as it avoids the risk of hitting the hill on the way down and trying to get right into the crack.
Also, in the cloud jumping level, you had the right idea of jumping straight up but couldn't quite make the final jump. If you try jumping to the left and land on the cloud on the right side of the screen, it can save you time. This trick can be used in many parts of Mario 2, and seeing your runs makes me want to get this game.
Thanks for the great content, and keep up the fantastic work!
Haha, it's like someone heard Grandpoobear say Kirby games are too easy and took it personally!
25:46 ayyyyooooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Early Kirby has so many great levels to offer!
Also, maybe you should consider playing Kirby on NES. 😉
‘I am the ballsac.’💀🤣
Your mom calls me the eggplant wizard
There should have been a way for players to create their own challenges and upload them online for other players to try and beat. Granted, all of these games would have needed to be available in their entirety for players to create their respective challenges, but that would have made this AMAZING!
Love me some ballon fight!! Love it
Great to hear you love Zelda II too! Finished it many times. Killer music too! This game is indeed not that great. Fun for a moment but gets quick boring. So yeah I agree 100% with your opinion. Also if you love Zelda II play also BATT:E OF OLYMPUS! I only finished it once....But damn, what a great game and also killer music!!
I like the game a lot. I agree the beginning trials aren't that interesting but they're also short anyways. Its not a 9/10 game but 7/10 for sure, and thats where it seems to be landing among critics and fans. I think you're a bit harsh on it to be honest.
Kirby and Kid Icarus both have a hidden extra boss that dogs you the entire game: THE CONTROLS.
Only just now realizing the music for Kirby slaps
Kirby can inhale up to 3 enemies. The damage is different based on how many enemies you inhale.
Kirby can also slide. Hold down+B
1:10:59 I think it still has potential in a Trackmania/Mario Makerway where a person can go into a game, set a goal and start point then run the challenge themselves and post it for other people to try.
Trackmania has a mechanic called the "Author Medal" where the person who creates/posts the level can race their track and choose a run to set as the standard time for people to beat. Use that as the S rank here and you have yourself a game.
If you choose to play Kid Icarus, play the 3D Classic version on 3DS if you can. New backgrounds for all stages. Saves instead of passwords, Famicom music, and no slow downs.
He could play it on Switch NES online, the save states help a lot if you're new to it
At first I wasn't sure if I'd like this game. I absolutely love it. I've never really tried speed running any games. I love the challenge of the speed running mode.
Not only am I getting better with every attempt, when I go play the full length games on ninetndo switch online NES I've noticed I'm better 30-38 years later on all them. It's a great feeling.
I like the fact that the tutorial challenges are easy to complete but hard to get S ranks on unless you really know what you are doing (for the most part)
I played through the lost levels on the SNES-SMB-Allstars-version with both Mario and Luigi. Luigi takes some getting used to, but ultimately, his massive jumps and slipperiness often make him super fast and fun to play.
Ironically, Nintendo did some of Ryu's wishes in the predecessor to the Nintendo World Championships NES -- NES Remix. The oddball remixes there were more akin to what was wished for. Even going so far as some of the remixes being cross game stuff (like Link in a Mario game)
"That bag is such a trap. Can you even get it?" Yes you can get it.
"Call me Killer Bubbles darling. Everybody does."
Monochrome Hero would be the Gameboy Kirby series. Hence, the Black/white
So glad excitebike is done😂
Never expected to be a better at a video game… until Insaw Ryu play Ballon Fight 😂
Yeah, after you gave this game a review. I had to strongly agree!
Also! They missed a lot of good games as well.
LMAO I knew you would hate Balloon Fight 😂
The world championship could provide so much more gameplay by making it a bit more interesting. Making it different games each time would be the biggest help, but even different modes like double elimination, team mode, voting on the game, or some type of draft. The best moment was in Mario 2 when the guy skipped the carpet entirely and jumped over the gap. It would be great if more challenges had different strats like that which weren't immediately known.
Ryuuuu!! We want the raw experience. 😀
Watching you tweaking and finetuning every movement and saving some miliseconds here and there is so satisfying.
The 4 hours were great!! In case it's boring we can fast forward by ourselves.
Thank you, man! Love you! 🙂
More Demon Crest Please!!!! I have also never played it and have heard it was awesome. It does look super fun to play.
"By far the longest" I can see one with more above it.
It's criminal that they didn't make the Kirby crane mini-game one of the challenges 😭
38:06 Family friendly content 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kirby was - and still is - a very good game with a lot of hidden stuff and one of the best NES endboss fights ever.
In my opinion it is one of the best Kirby games that have been released until today.
Balloon Fight soundtrack is in my psyche in a positive way. I must’ve been an idiot savant with this game playing it with my peripherals.
1:02:41 😂 "Robosack" 😂
Balloon fight is amazing on the WiiU. It is included with Nintendoland. You use the stylus to control the wind, so the controls are infinitely better.
DEMON'S CRETS please ryu
Your review really seems spot on. A shorter version might just be that this is a worse version of NES Remix with more online features added.
Really funny that Ryu doesn’t like Balloon Fight when the physics are literally Mario 1 swimming mechanics
I dont think Baloon Fight has trash controls, the game is ment to be controlled that way. You just have to learn it.
I'm surprise they don't mention in the Kirby's challenge that you can slide by pressing down and the jump button. It could help a lot with some ground ennemies
I’m glad you paid for the game and not me! Not all heroes wear capes 😂😂
Around 1:04:00, you were pushing yourself away with each hit, THAT'S why it wasn't damaging him - you weren't hitting him. His hitbox isn't as big as you'd think it is. An easier way is to up-stab him in the chin, you should have that ability in this.
Its sad that ryu didnt play kirby in his childhood.. if he did he would know how to defeat a mid-boss😅
Thanks for finishing it all out. That legendary challenge sounds brutal and obnoxious.
You can get used to Balloon Fight's controls, it just takes a bit of practise. They aren't bad once you get to know them.
Now @ryu should speedrun yhe whole kirby game.
I don't know why but I really like balloon fight.
Im exactly on your side. A really cool thing for me would be, if you can post own challenges (like maps can be posted in Super Mario Maker) and other players could beat your time on them. And calculated on how many can beat them, they are classified to wich league they are counted and with moderation they become part of the world championship mode. And yeah, we talk about speed running. So there should be a mode for the elite, where you go through a whole game too. There the time is taken from one intermediate goal to the other till the game is beaten. That would be a great game.
57:38 😂 "This game Sucks!" 😂
Satoru Iwata would be sad, he made Ballon Fight. 😢
The koopa isn't in a different place, Luigi has different acceleration
Regarding those RNG-dependent segments, I suspect the RNG is tied to your movement or the amount of time that passed or something. Something similar happens with the Zelda segments, where sometimes the movement of the enemies is different and sometimes it’s predictable as long as you can replicate your exact or very similar inputs at key points. In this way, it’s actually fairly easy to manipulate said RNG to your favor, which makes the whole thing much more manageable.