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Cogadh no Sith (War or peace). Medieval clàrsach ceòl mór - pìobaireachd on the harp
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- Performed live at All Saints Church Hall, St Andrews, Scotland, 6th July 2016
This is the pibroch tune ‘Cogadh no Sith’, re-imagined as a medieval ceremonial march for the MacDonald Lords of the Isles, to give a flavour of the kind of elaborate, formal, learned music that might have been heard in the great hall at Finlaggan in the 15th century.
Played on the replica of the medieval West Highland / Hebridean clarsach (the ‘Queen Mary’ harp), by historical Gaelic harp specialist Simon Chadwick.
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From the programme notes:
Cogadh no Sith - War or Peace
A traditional ‘pibroch’ arranged for the harp, with characteristic variations.
’S coma leam, ’s coma leam,
alike to me, alike to me,
cogadh no sith
war or peace
marbhar ’sa cogadh,
I’ll be killed in the war
no crochar ’san t-sith mi
or hanged in the peace
The tune is based on a simple eight-line melody with a sequence of twelve variations. Each one is presented twice, first lyrically and then intensely. The ‘ground’ melody returns after each one.
The first six variations are in medieval harp style, while the last six are in traditional bagpipe style. The variations gradually increase in difficulty and intensity. Variations seven and eight are played low on the harp for a dramatic change in sound.
The tune was known as the “true gathering of the clans”; it has long been associated with the Scottish regiments, and before then as a military tune played by all of the Highland clans. There is a tradition that it was played in medieval times as a kind of anthem or march for the Lords of the Isles.
I love the bright tone of that harp. This is lovely.
Beautiful.
The lyrics express the resignation of the poor foot soldier or vassle.
War or peace will both bring death to him ie killed in the war or hanged in the peace.
In Irish Gaelic it would sound much the same except for the Gallic beat.
"Is cuma liom, is cuma liom
Cogadh nó Sīochàin.
Marofar sa chogadh
Crocfar sa sīochàin."
Suímiúil.
Transported me to a different time and space. Thanks Simon.
Excellent, really enjoyed it 👍allows us to imagine what that magical gaelic music sounded like, the harp music which gave rise to bagpipe ceòl mòr
L'art de varier un thème dans une gamme modale ; le résultat est une musique très circulaire, probablement très proche des forces vitales de la nature, très sauvage en Ecosse.
That was a rare treat! I would never have thought that the pibroch could be translated so perfectly into the clarsach,
this is a very old song it was probably originally played on the harp and then transcribed to the bagpipes
The clàrsach was the operandus modi of what we know today as "piobaireachd music" in their day. This is the most classical form that basically surrounded ceòl mòr before they even had the fiddle become commonplace.
The pipes in Scots culture is a relatively modern invention, and some allude to the fact that the Great Highland bagpipe was a possible adaptation of the Irish warpipe.
I will add that the fiddle probably wasn't the main instrument that did ceòl mòr, but did a lot of "ceòl beag" or light music like jigs, Strathspeys, reels, 2/4s, 4/4s and 6/8s for dancing.
A treasure to hear
Solid, flowing and excellent rendition, Simon.
Thanks Chad. Good to hear from you. hope youre doing well.
Magnificent rendition. Thank you.
Beautiful. Ever since I somewhat (re)discovered Scotland's oldest instrument and how it played an integral part in the classical music of Scotland, I've become more engrossed than I ever have before about the instrument, where the bagpipe originated in Scotland, and Scottish music in general. I think it's also amazing to see how the clàrsach was traditionally used in war, as well.
And back in the Iron Age, one of the most prolific instruments of war in Celtic nations--beyond just Scotland--was the carnyx. Those were also both used in war *and* in casual settings--for gatherings and other big events, for example.
It's so intriguing to dive deeper into this kind of stuff. Thank you for taking your part in the classic art of the clàrsach.
Beautiful; great interpretation!
Quite exquisite, Sir. Like fronds of crystal stream water being gently plucked by a raft of rolling river stones. The element of water being feminine. The element of stone being of earth is male. A sacred marriage...made music.
So you wish you would have kept focus on this special ancient instrument. No one else plays with your authentic interpretation. Blessings.
.........stunning Mister Chadwick. I have it in mind to emulate the piece on a moog. But i fear flying eggs, logs, glaves swords and the odd haggis might somewhat injure me. Even to suggest it would have you all.................well...............I digest. Love it. Brilliant and nice one.............bro.
Yes do it on the moog and let me know ! Sounds like it would be awesome
also on my Dad's side I have English Harper
which descends from le harpur
the Surame apparently is of occupational origin of a Harpist or Harper
one who played the harp at balls or festivals in Medieval times
Excepcional! sublime!!!
Beautifully performed. If you will notice, he has the harp resting against his left shoulder instead of the usual right shoulder which, I believe is the traditional Celtic way of performing on the harp.
There is really a 'Celtic' shoulder?
Lovely!
That is amazing, Simon.
Thank you, Laurel.
Love it.
Simon, I am a being whose gifts are being destroyed by those who bestowed, for what this world has done unto me, and others. The harp 'be' in all those with an ethereal understanding beyond conventions the monster be jealous of. I have no classical training but the music still lives, or dies. This piece, perhaps a salut to perceptions as, no matter a return to the route, no matter a different adjustment and inquiry........................the ending stays the same as if, a bounce to returned states of matter, returned states of grace still reveal no progress! An onlooker, or listerner would be enthralled. But those that bare the harp only embittered for a rendition where 'the best outcome' is conveniantly denied. 'Our' tradition written for no escape. My understanding has at a knowingness that you are relieved someone does hear and translate.............................even if 'knowingness' is something officialdom wants destroyed. You are a fine player Mister Chadwick.................and I dare an ancient considers your timing, your pauses and velocity be the best of subtleties never ventured upon modernism.................but there....................The Ancients need to come to the light and step out of the cave..........................moog is here, and it is about time, they understood 'we' harp have ventured way past thier expectations.................Simon, can you signpost me to the written vernacular I can follow, and play upon my moog? ..................Best wishes, fellow 'Harp' afore we die.
Plenty of written versions here:
www.altpibroch.com/ps204/
But since it is in an oral tradition the best way is to listen, memorise, internalise, and then create / improvise out of your own head.
The McWhorter, McQuarter, etc....
surname is an Anglicized form of the Scottish Gaelic
"Mac Chruiteir," a patronymic created from the
occupational byname "Cruiteir, " or "a player of the crwth."
"Cruit" is also an old Gaelic word for a harp, and is still the most common word for "harp" in the modern Irish language
@@simonmchadwick is it also scottish?
Yes, Irish and Scottish Gaelic are closely related, often considered as two dialects of the same language. But they have diverged over the past few centuries... in Scottish Gaelic "Cruit" is archaic and "Clàrsach" is the normal modern word for a harp. But in Irish it is the other way around, "Cláirseach" is old fashioned and "Cruit" is the normal modern word for a harp.
Is this instrument strung with wire? If so, maybe you could add the term "wire-strung harp" so this video will come up when people search for that term.
Greetings from Russia, good old friends by genetic lines
I have McWhorter Ancestry
which is Scottish - the name and all the spelling variants originate from
Mac Chruiteir or Mac an Chruiteir which is Scottish Gaelic for Son of the Harper
these Scottish Harpers or Harpists were harp players for the Scottish Clans, namely apparently the McWhirters were Harpists for Clan Buchanan?
McWhorter is on my Mother's side
all the different spelling variation of McWhorter that I can find are
Macghruiter
Macquarter
MacWherter
MacWhirter
MacWhorter
Maworter
McQuarter
McQuirter
McWater
McWharter
McWherter
McWhirter
McWhorter
Mewhirter
Hi! Which kind of temperament you use for playing the clàrsach? Equal, Pythagorean or else?
I believe its probably a kind of just or Pythagorean hybrid. It is tuned in 5ths, so nominally Pythagorean I suppose, but the resonance of the whole harp affects when each 5th sounds "pure", which I think pushes it towards Just.
I have two videos showing how this harp is tuned:
ua-cam.com/video/CHSCdXBQhDI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/mnm4J67jjAE/v-deo.html
Equal would be much harder to tune, and would sound much worse, for no advantage, since the harp is not chromatic.
Abair
Did that guy have sweater tied around his neck? Wtf
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