wow. this deck is what i always dreamed about! I like your channel because you suggest nice decks that many do not consider, and are really budget friendly! That is my philosophy in magic the gathering, since i'm a casual player but still wants to kick some asses at the LGS!! XD
MTG noob here, found your channel looking for fun decks, and absolutely loved your content. Everything, the lore videos, the combos, the gameplay advice, it's all great! Subscribed and whitelisted on adblock after watching the 4th video in a row, thanks for putting out all this content! PS: you can deny all you want, but you totally sound like Ross Geller. That's totally not a bad thing btw. :P
took a version of this deck to fnm, so fun hit people for 14 damage one turn. Next game hit 24 damage, will be taking this to game day for sure. love the channel keep these decks coming
As opposed to highland lake I would suggest Evolving wilds, the land is going to come in tapped regardless but EW thins your deck so you hit more of your spells that you need. just my opinion on it though. but the deck still seems sweet, I've been building around Nibbles (in a pure trolling way) in a deck I call "Izzet Annoying", it runs thermo-alchemist, Bedlam Reveler, Weaver of Lightning, Embermaw hellion and Nibils as main creatures with some devil generation and card draw. Pure casual fun when I get tired or my main deck.
Built this for FNM (no fumaroles yet). Was pwned by Naya superfriends and Mardu superfriends. They just burn/ultimate price, then radiant flames/declaration in stone and here I am with shitload of combat tricks and 0 creatures looking helplessly at piling army of planeswalkers coming for my ass.
sweeped fnm with this deck, only thing Is played 2 mage ring and played the full 4 abbot because the value is amazing, side board was 2 negate 2 summary dismissal 2 fevered Visions 2 thing in the ice 2 goldnight castigor what I usually take out is nibilis of frost and mage ring bully the sideboard needs work but two cards you must play are 2 fevered visions and 2 goldnight castigor, just destroys control matches. any questions let me know.
Hey, just to let you guys know, thus deck works. I tested this deck against rogue and meta decks. it beat green/white tokens. this deck is sound, powerful, and amazing. Sometimes you get bad hands but even so this deck is good.
Another thought is having maybe a single copy of Mirrorwing Dragon, I mean think of it... Have a mercurial geists nibbles and mirrorwing on the field, copy a copy of uncaged over to them as well... They only get the cast prowess trigger but then also get double strike and the extra +1/+1. Swing for a total of 34 dmg in the air...
Prowess is a very under-rated deck, I've built a pauper version that can do like 20 on turn 4. In an eternal format the only upgrade would be to put in Kiln fiend (1,R 1/2, when you cast an instant or sorcery it gets +3/+0)
I'm running this at FNM tomorrow. Never played Standard at FNM, so I figure this will help me learn the meta. If it does well, I'll run it at Game Day (Which is my birthday). If it goes badly, I'll be running TCC's $40 Werewolf deck.
I built a deck like this on monday, almost exactly what you put together here. I went 3-1 at FNM lastnight, lost to white weenies because I had shit draws with no creatures. I got the awesome turn 5 single creature swing in numerous times with Mercurial Geists, 2 titan strength or borrowed hostility and uncaged fury. Instant win if they cant block it. the only difference in our decks is that you have abbot and mage ring bully, I put in rattle chains and contingency plan. The deck is super fun to play and swinging in for 20+ with one creature had my opponents counting triggers and doing math all night hahaha
wanted you to know that I built this deck as near to your list as I could. it went great!!! I went 3_1 at my fnm last night for second place. lost , the last round to r/u altered visions. I didn't take my sideboard like an idiot. I just couldn't hang with that guys removal. one suggestion though.....I ran curious homunculus and it was great too!
What do you guys think about Jhessian Thief as an alternative if some creature cards are missing from this? Personally I'm short 1 Abbot and 2 Niblis. So I threw in 3 Jhessians for the prowess / draw chance. +1 if you can get some doublestrike action.
I highly recommend swapping out mage-ring bully for Elusive spellfist. One less power, but whenever you cast a spell it not only gets +1 power but makes itself unblockable. Having an extra toughness can help too. I have almost exactly this list.
Love it! The only change I am making is dealing out MR Bully for Curious Homunculus...it might not even be better, I just love the card and want to find out a home.
I would add I don't know if there are expensive now or not but rancor one green adds +2+0 to any creature and trample and if the creature dies rancor bounces back into your hand it was fun back in my days playing booster draft and finding one of those and find two just to stealing it so nobody uses agents you!!
This deck is great! I played at a FNM today and won 5 matches undefeated! The double-strike card is much more useful than I thought it would be. I won the last 4 matches by getting a flying creature (usually Stormchaser Mage) and buffing him up to ten or nine then giving him double-strike and swinging for 20/18 in the air and kill them because they didn't have flyers.
I was curious what your thoughts of a similar version of this deck in modern instead. Do you think it would be viable or that it would suck. I was thinking along the idea of having like abots, switspear, lightning bolt, seeker of the way, and a bunch of 1 and 2 cost pump spells
A year ago I came up with a very very similar deck but the cards are all different, and I am almost done straping it together :D Mine is modern though and can turn 3 quite frequently
Can confirm that Mercurial Geists looks absolutely amazing as foil ;) Your explicit recommendation/warning not to modify this decklist makes me want to modify it... I can see how any tampering will detract from its functionality though. Still, some ideas: 1. Go for Wizards. Replace Bully with Sanguinary Mage, and perhaps Abbot with Jori En, and then Docent of Perfection instead of Niblis (yeah, I'm thinking of cutting Mr. Nibbles). You'll probably flip Docent with the next spell you cast, boost most of the other creatures in the deck, and get loads of 3/2 flying tokens. The Deck will need to be renamed, unfortunately. 2. If Manafixing is too bothersome, why not go Mono-Red? Thermo Alchemist, Weaver of Lightning, Origins Chandra... not the kind of creatures you want to attack with, but they'll make your opponent and his creatures lose life with every spell you cast, and flipping Chandra shouldn't be too difficult. Also, Bedlam Reveler. 3. How about Cryptolith Fragment? It might help with the Manafixing, and once you flip it it's a serious threat. They're already below 10 life and lose another 3 at the start of combat, all it takes is a couple more boost spells. Might be a bit slow and unreliable. 4. Pyre Hound might be an interesting addition to the deck. Comes with trample, and instead of having prowess he actually gets +1/+1 counters. Wouldn't know what to cut tough. And lastly, I know you've said this before, but no room for any blue control spells? Not even a Dispel to make sure your opponent doesn't mess with your final charge? Anyway, awesome deck as it is. I can see it living past the rotation with some adjustments (and who knows what kind of red-blue love we'll get in Kaladesh). I've just recently come back to MtG - still trying to get a hang of it again, so please let me know if my ideas are total bullshit. Cheers.
So being that this is no longer standard legal, I made some changes Traded Abbot of Keral Keep for 3 Umara Entanglers Mage Ring-Bully for 1 Umara Entangler and 2 vedalken blademaster Titans Strength for 4 built to smash Expedite for 3 Slip Through Space (I know expedite is still legal but I thought unblockable might be more useful and still a 1 drop) Opinions?
Hehehe awesome! I love showing up with something the stupid net decking sheep can't handle. They just blindly follow pros and build whatever they do and then get crushed by people who ACTUALLY know deck building. Whenever a certain unfair deck style takes over in popularity, I always resort to black kill everything, blue counter everything, or red super speed blitz.
Love it. Any advice for a new player starting with Kaladesh in terms of what's working well at the moment? (Don't want to ND and trying to learn the mechanics)
Ok so here's a sideboard I made for this: 2x Kozileks Return, 3x Fiery Impulse, 2x Radiant Flames, 2x Roast, 2x Tears of Valakut, 2x Dispel, 2x Negate. Any suggestions?
Why so many x2's? Also, those aren't the goal of the deck. I'd recommend maybe x3 or x4 of a couple removals if you want, otherwise stick to similar cards to swap in to throw your opponent off a bit.
If it didn't have to be standard, would there be any good cards from the Izzet guild from the Ravnica Blocks that would be good? (wee Dragonaughts and similar)
Lilith it would, but only if you target enemy creatures. Also willbreaker is a bit slow for this deck. If you want to use willbreaker, make a Deck with ramp and cauldron of souls+cauldron haze or something like that
Thoughts on Elusive Spellfist? I once went 5-0 at an FNM with a deck similar to this, and I swept everyone in the first 4 rounds and then won out of 3 in the last round. Elusive Spellfist was pretty much the card that got me there.
I would be curious to see your list. I just built this deck and want to use it Friday. Elusive spellfist looks like a good card for this deck but I'm concerned that desolator may be right in regards to needing more mana fixing if used.
+Cris Gale the thing is , mage right bully is 2/2 and is attacking each turn and is something your Oppenheimer has to worry about , I have a prowess deck, I run elusive spellfist, but I get why he added the mage ring
I had deck that was similar to this one too that I played on mtgo before Khans rotated out. Temur Battle Rage + Titian's Strength + Elusive Spellfist = 6 power double strike unblockable. People hated that deck.
This deck would really do well with some Thermo alchemist. Also Geistblast to have more chances for important pump spells and more uses of Uncaged Fury
This deck basically cannot have a sideboard or it does more damage to itself than it prevents from the opponent. I was putting in essence flux, turn aside, and negate but you put them in and now you have no boost or are short on creatures.
that makes a lot of sense. I kinda figured that would be the case unless there was a fewthere was a specific pump spell that would be bettter in certain situations
Well, it's no longer standard legal, so you can add brute force now and maybe assault strobe too? Also, Trumpet Blast and as a sure win finisher, Savage Beating.
So a heads up regarding this deck: he really really overstates how good it is against control. I've played this at two FNMs, a bunch of standard game, and the gameday weekend; control still shuts it down. You can't keep enough creatures on the board to dole out the damage and half the time you're sitting around with target instants or sorceries in your hand but no creatures to play them on. From what I've seen, this deck requires an excellent hand and then good draw for at least a few turns. You end up top decking a lot. Ultimately it's gimmicky to some extent with basically very narrow win conditions (really you could say there's one). Without modification to increase draw, or at least adding in some burn so your mana isn't sitting idle, I don't see how this deck is anywhere near as good as he's stating here. Maybe he lucked out against the people he played against in his FNM, but 20 games in and my experience has been that it's effectiveness is overstated. At least it's cheap (~$25 if you go for the wandering fumaroles).
The only people that lose with it are terrible MTG players. I've never had such an insane number of people report sweeps at their FNM with this deck than any other deck I've ever designed. Clearly you have no concept of the bigger picture, don't know how to pilot this deck, or everyone at your LGS is running turn 2 removal x16 in their deck.
DesolatorMagic I was seeing removals at turn 1 on many games, so it's likely that most people were running very heavy removal. Even with that said, this deck requires a very consistent initial hand because it has very few, and weak, draw advantage cards in it. It's great that many people are reporting success with it, but that might not mean much given survivorship bias. And relax: I didn't insult you personally, why you're attacking me personally on the other hand I do not know. Beyond that my points still stand, it can be stopped, and there are control decks that can do it (and apparently they're either hyper concentrated at my LGS, or you and others have been getting lucky at not running across them).
Melting Sky Yeah your experience is echoing mine exactly. I'm actually thinking of replacing mage ring bully with thermo alchemist because of the repeated untap-tap loop you can get going with your pump spells. Since the damage is direct to player there's not much that can be done about it. Also considering sideboarding a bit of burn/draw depending, but we'll see. It's a fun deck, and really fun when it works, but nearly everyone I played wrecked it just because of how heavy they were with speed removal like you noted.
+DesolatorMagic dude, seriously? No disrespect, but saying that the only reason your deck lost in another players hands is because they are terrible is really trashy. A budget deck (Except maybe Thermo TITI) isn't going to beat Bant Company, W/B control, or any other tier 1 decks. Their is a reason why U/W spirits crashed in the meta, because for it's price it is just a worse COCO deck. If this deck was this good it would be relevant in the meta currently, as TITI (It's less than 130 and half that if you take out Baby Jace) is (hovering at about 5% and in the top 10 most played decks according to MTGoldfish)
if you follow this deck you are a netdecker lol its okay to play some decks from online from time to time ,just make sure u building ur own and be imaginative😂.
Wish I found your channel ages ago I would've used your deck instead of dicking around with zombies and vampires... Looking forward to your builds for kaladesh standard!
Drew Horst There are some cards in standard that improve on some of the spells. You could swap them in, but it would be convenient if Prowess became evergreen.
I've been working on a blue/red deck myself because of Mr Nibbles take over potential. Through I'm trying out Weaver of Lightning and burn instead of combat tricks.
I'm thinking him in mono blue + his cousin, the card that taps creatures whenever spirits enter the battlefield and a ton of blue spirits plus giant blue aggro creatures and tons of counterspells might work.
With trample, flying, and the fact that they let a 2/2 through and it becomes a 20/20 I kicked it out of the deck design. If you lower the boost level of the deck at all, it fails miserably.
Hey man, about how much does this deck cost? Wouldn't mind making it since it seems fun. Making decks is fun and I've (kind of) gotten the hand of designing my own decks although I admit I have ways to go before I get to your level. While I slowly make my own decks better I wouldn't mind dropping some money on this deck, but I need to know how much it costs first.
Pretty even but this deck forces them to have a perfect opening hand or lose due to sheer speed. If they don't have removal, they lose all their creatures or all their life points on turn 4-5.
It out-speeds it and they let the attackers through too often and die because of it. They need a removal-heavy starting hand and that usually means they can't get their creatures on the field.
Chris Schneider I put in turn aside, the 1 cost blue flicker, negate, and then abandoned the sideboard idea as a whole because if you pull ANYTHING out of this deck, it fails to work at all and does more damage than good :P
hey des! you're videos are awesome! and your Mr.Nibbles deck has inspired me to be douchier than you. I'm building grixis burn mill madness tutelage draw. beat that.
This deck is fun...loved the look on peoples faces when I shoved over 20 damage in one turn and would win in one swing...jajaja..you have to get a near perfect draw for this deck to run properly and a bit of practice..i usually run this and my Red/Black vampire madness at FNM and destroy all
i also see that you have a lot of high costing mana, like i saw way to meny three and four costs, but i see the power here, not trying to trash talk, just giving advise.
1:46 "I've developed a deck that 's so unbelievably unstoppable, it can really only beat itself"
Well that sounds pretty crappy :O
hahahaahahahahah pwnd
he meant it could only really be beaten by itself...
WaffleOfLegend ` I know :P but it was a funny phrase nonetheless!
wow. this deck is what i always dreamed about!
I like your channel because you suggest nice decks that many do not consider, and are really budget friendly!
That is my philosophy in magic the gathering, since i'm a casual player but still wants to kick some asses at the LGS!! XD
ps: Is there a replacement for Abbot of keral keep?
wow. that beginning was filled with salt
Well, thats desolator magic I guess.
He’s right though!
MTG noob here, found your channel looking for fun decks, and absolutely loved your content. Everything, the lore videos, the combos, the gameplay advice, it's all great! Subscribed and whitelisted on adblock after watching the 4th video in a row, thanks for putting out all this content!
PS: you can deny all you want, but you totally sound like Ross Geller. That's totally not a bad thing btw. :P
Apparently you haven't seen the "other" video lol. Search my channel for a video title involving "ross"
took a version of this deck to fnm, so fun hit people for 14 damage one turn. Next game hit 24 damage, will be taking this to game day for sure. love the channel keep these decks coming
As opposed to highland lake I would suggest Evolving wilds, the land is going to come in tapped regardless but EW thins your deck so you hit more of your spells that you need. just my opinion on it though.
but the deck still seems sweet, I've been building around Nibbles (in a pure trolling way) in a deck I call "Izzet Annoying", it runs thermo-alchemist, Bedlam Reveler, Weaver of Lightning, Embermaw hellion and Nibils as main creatures with some devil generation and card draw.
Pure casual fun when I get tired or my main deck.
Built this for FNM (no fumaroles yet). Was pwned by Naya superfriends and Mardu superfriends. They just burn/ultimate price, then radiant flames/declaration in stone and here I am with shitload of combat tricks and 0 creatures looking helplessly at piling army of planeswalkers coming for my ass.
yea, that does suck!
sweeped fnm with this deck, only thing Is played 2 mage ring and played the full 4 abbot because the value is amazing, side board was 2 negate 2 summary dismissal 2 fevered Visions 2 thing in the ice 2 goldnight castigor what I usually take out is nibilis of frost and mage ring bully the sideboard needs work but two cards you must play are 2 fevered visions and 2 goldnight castigor, just destroys control matches. any questions let me know.
Hey, just to let you guys know, thus deck works. I tested this deck against rogue and meta decks. it beat green/white tokens. this deck is sound, powerful, and amazing. Sometimes you get bad hands but even so this deck is good.
Another thought is having maybe a single copy of Mirrorwing Dragon, I mean think of it... Have a mercurial geists nibbles and mirrorwing on the field, copy a copy of uncaged over to them as well... They only get the cast prowess trigger but then also get double strike and the extra +1/+1. Swing for a total of 34 dmg in the air...
Prowess is a very under-rated deck, I've built a pauper version that can do like 20 on turn 4. In an eternal format the only upgrade would be to put in Kiln fiend (1,R 1/2, when you cast an instant or sorcery it gets +3/+0)
I'm running this at FNM tomorrow. Never played Standard at FNM, so I figure this will help me learn the meta. If it does well, I'll run it at Game Day (Which is my birthday). If it goes badly, I'll be running TCC's $40 Werewolf deck.
Would that garbo enchant "Harness the Storm" find any place in this deck? Prolly too slow right?
I built a deck like this on monday, almost exactly what you put together here. I went 3-1 at FNM lastnight, lost to white weenies because I had shit draws with no creatures. I got the awesome turn 5 single creature swing in numerous times with Mercurial Geists, 2 titan strength or borrowed hostility and uncaged fury. Instant win if they cant block it. the only difference in our decks is that you have abbot and mage ring bully, I put in rattle chains and contingency plan. The deck is super fun to play and swinging in for 20+ with one creature had my opponents counting triggers and doing math all night hahaha
how about using temple of epiphany instead of shivan reef so there's more scry?
wanted you to know that I built this deck as near to your list as I could. it went great!!! I went 3_1 at my fnm last night for second place. lost , the last round to r/u altered visions. I didn't take my sideboard like an idiot. I just couldn't hang with that guys removal. one suggestion though.....I ran curious homunculus and it was great too!
can you please make a video on how to play the deck? i can't seem to beat my friends eldrazi or spirit deck with it too often, am I doing it wrong?
save all your cheap spells/double strike for a single all out attack on turn four or five and demolish them
And if that doesn't work scoop! The game is pretty much over.
lol, my LGS is doing frontier now. Guess what I'm bringing
What do you guys think about Jhessian Thief as an alternative if some creature cards are missing from this? Personally I'm short 1 Abbot and 2 Niblis. So I threw in 3 Jhessians for the prowess / draw chance.
+1 if you can get some doublestrike action.
I highly recommend swapping out mage-ring bully for Elusive spellfist. One less power, but whenever you cast a spell it not only gets +1 power but makes itself unblockable. Having an extra toughness can help too.
I have almost exactly this list.
OMG!!!!!! I LOVE THIS DECK!!!! NET DECKING THIS!!!! ALL TIME FaVORITE CARD of EDM!
Love it! The only change I am making is dealing out MR Bully for Curious Homunculus...it might not even be better, I just love the card and want to find out a home.
I would add I don't know if there are expensive now or not but rancor one green adds +2+0 to any creature and trample and if the creature dies rancor bounces back into your hand it was fun back in my days playing booster draft and finding one of those and find two just to stealing it so nobody uses agents you!!
Could Bedlam Reveler be considered as an alternative creature?
This deck is great! I played at a FNM today and won 5 matches undefeated! The double-strike card is much more useful than I thought it would be. I won the last 4 matches by getting a flying creature (usually Stormchaser Mage) and buffing him up to ten or nine then giving him double-strike and swinging for 20/18 in the air and kill them because they didn't have flyers.
I was curious what your thoughts of a similar version of this deck in modern instead. Do you think it would be viable or that it would suck.
I was thinking along the idea of having like abots, switspear, lightning bolt, seeker of the way, and a bunch of 1 and 2 cost pump spells
A year ago I came up with a very very similar deck but the cards are all different, and I am almost done straping it together :D Mine is modern though and can turn 3 quite frequently
Dude! Do you even sideboard? And did u concider puting there thing in the ice insted maybe mage ring bully?
Can confirm that Mercurial Geists looks absolutely amazing as foil ;)
Your explicit recommendation/warning not to modify this decklist makes me want to modify it... I can see how any tampering will detract from its functionality though. Still, some ideas:
1. Go for Wizards. Replace Bully with Sanguinary Mage, and perhaps Abbot with Jori En, and then Docent of Perfection instead of Niblis (yeah, I'm thinking of cutting Mr. Nibbles). You'll probably flip Docent with the next spell you cast, boost most of the other creatures in the deck, and get loads of 3/2 flying tokens. The Deck will need to be renamed, unfortunately.
2. If Manafixing is too bothersome, why not go Mono-Red? Thermo Alchemist, Weaver of Lightning, Origins Chandra... not the kind of creatures you want to attack with, but they'll make your opponent and his creatures lose life with every spell you cast, and flipping Chandra shouldn't be too difficult. Also, Bedlam Reveler.
3. How about Cryptolith Fragment? It might help with the Manafixing, and once you flip it it's a serious threat. They're already below 10 life and lose another 3 at the start of combat, all it takes is a couple more boost spells. Might be a bit slow and unreliable.
4. Pyre Hound might be an interesting addition to the deck. Comes with trample, and instead of having prowess he actually gets +1/+1 counters. Wouldn't know what to cut tough.
And lastly, I know you've said this before, but no room for any blue control spells? Not even a Dispel to make sure your opponent doesn't mess with your final charge?
Anyway, awesome deck as it is. I can see it living past the rotation with some adjustments (and who knows what kind of red-blue love we'll get in Kaladesh). I've just recently come back to MtG - still trying to get a hang of it again, so please let me know if my ideas are total bullshit. Cheers.
just got all these cards in the mail and going to play with it tonight at my lgs wish me luck
So being that this is no longer standard legal, I made some changes
Traded Abbot of Keral Keep for 3 Umara Entanglers
Mage Ring-Bully for 1 Umara Entangler and 2 vedalken blademaster
Titans Strength for 4 built to smash
Expedite for 3 Slip Through Space (I know expedite is still legal but I thought unblockable might be more useful and still a 1 drop)
Opinions?
Been playing with Mr Nibbles, at my store people just aren't ready for turn four, 16 in the air, lots concede at that point.Great deck! Thanks.
Hehehe awesome! I love showing up with something the stupid net decking sheep can't handle. They just blindly follow pros and build whatever they do and then get crushed by people who ACTUALLY know deck building. Whenever a certain unfair deck style takes over in popularity, I always resort to black kill everything, blue counter everything, or red super speed blitz.
+DesolatorMagic I used to play u/r prowess so I have almost everything thats in the deck
Hey desolator nice vid looks like a deck I'll try
Also swapping 1 mage ring bully for 4th abbot of keral keep makes everything better with no backdraws.
Any suggestions for cards to put in sideboard? Or would having a sideboard screw with the main strategy too much?
Love it. Any advice for a new player starting with Kaladesh in terms of what's working well at the moment? (Don't want to ND and trying to learn the mechanics)
One word to end this deck: fog
Not if I counter it :P
Oh wait, wrong deck. btw there is no fog in standard right now.
i know m8 im just saying
what about summary dismissal?
rip
Two more words. Holy Day.
Well, I hope someone does something with this, (although mostly because I pulled promo Nibilis of Frost), but this deck is totally awesome.
Ok so here's a sideboard I made for this: 2x Kozileks Return, 3x Fiery Impulse, 2x Radiant Flames, 2x Roast, 2x Tears of Valakut, 2x Dispel, 2x Negate. Any suggestions?
Why so many x2's? Also, those aren't the goal of the deck. I'd recommend maybe x3 or x4 of a couple removals if you want, otherwise stick to similar cards to swap in to throw your opponent off a bit.
If it didn't have to be standard, would there be any good cards from the Izzet guild from the Ravnica Blocks that would be good? (wee Dragonaughts and similar)
Whats your opinion on Zada, Hedron Grinder or Mirrorwing Dragon? They would synergise with all of the boost spells.
would willbreaker be a good addition to thus deck?
Lilith it would, but only if you target enemy creatures. Also willbreaker is a bit slow for this deck. If you want to use willbreaker, make a Deck with ramp and cauldron of souls+cauldron haze or something like that
Why dont you switch Curious Homonuculus instead of Mage Ring bully?
slow
would umara entangler work in place of mage ring?
+steadylynx1 yes
Thoughts on Elusive Spellfist? I once went 5-0 at an FNM with a deck similar to this, and I swept everyone in the first 4 rounds and then won out of 3 in the last round. Elusive Spellfist was pretty much the card that got me there.
I would be curious to see your list. I just built this deck and want to use it Friday. Elusive spellfist looks like a good card for this deck but I'm concerned that desolator may be right in regards to needing more mana fixing if used.
+Cris Gale the thing is , mage right bully is 2/2 and is attacking each turn and is something your Oppenheimer has to worry about , I have a prowess deck, I run elusive spellfist, but I get why he added the mage ring
I had deck that was similar to this one too that I played on mtgo before Khans rotated out. Temur Battle Rage + Titian's Strength + Elusive Spellfist = 6 power double strike unblockable. People hated that deck.
This deck would really do well with some Thermo alchemist. Also Geistblast to have more chances for important pump spells and more uses of Uncaged Fury
What about adding monastery swiftspear?
Wandering fumorole or nah? Description and Video conflicting.
Would this deck be a good choice to bring to Game Day?
what you would consider for a generic sideboard for this deck
This deck basically cannot have a sideboard or it does more damage to itself than it prevents from the opponent. I was putting in essence flux, turn aside, and negate but you put them in and now you have no boost or are short on creatures.
that makes a lot of sense. I kinda figured that would be the case unless there was a fewthere was a specific pump spell that would be bettter in certain situations
Is it possible to make a singleton sideboard to play hate against your opponent's deck? Side in 1 card and absolutely destroy their strategy
15 Lands Des, from your own 'Mistakes' series.
just curious why no mirror wing dragon?
Des said the point is to win on turn 4, or maybe 5...if your dropping mirrorwing on turn 5, you won't be playing any spells till turn 6.
can you put up some gameplay footage?
Well, it's no longer standard legal, so you can add brute force now and maybe assault strobe too?
Also, Trumpet Blast and as a sure win finisher, Savage Beating.
isn't this just U/R Prowess without Swiftspear?
Hey, great deck tech. I don't see the 3 wandering fumarole in the list. Did you take it out for another spell?
"walmart parking lot deck".... I snorted...
How does the deck do against Bant Company?
Why not Slip Through Space instead of Expedite?
Because Expedite grants haste for more damage and quicker also, good suggestion though
its mostly because expedite is an instant, but I like slip through space
Does the 0 mana power toughness switch from fumarole work multiple times per turn? Can I swap it repeatedly?
yes, you can..just do so with forethought because the switch goes on the stack
Gotta love that National Treasure Reference!
So a heads up regarding this deck: he really really overstates how good it is against control.
I've played this at two FNMs, a bunch of standard game, and the gameday weekend; control still shuts it down. You can't keep enough creatures on the board to dole out the damage and half the time you're sitting around with target instants or sorceries in your hand but no creatures to play them on.
From what I've seen, this deck requires an excellent hand and then good draw for at least a few turns. You end up top decking a lot. Ultimately it's gimmicky to some extent with basically very narrow win conditions (really you could say there's one).
Without modification to increase draw, or at least adding in some burn so your mana isn't sitting idle, I don't see how this deck is anywhere near as good as he's stating here. Maybe he lucked out against the people he played against in his FNM, but 20 games in and my experience has been that it's effectiveness is overstated. At least it's cheap (~$25 if you go for the wandering fumaroles).
The only people that lose with it are terrible MTG players. I've never had such an insane number of people report sweeps at their FNM with this deck than any other deck I've ever designed. Clearly you have no concept of the bigger picture, don't know how to pilot this deck, or everyone at your LGS is running turn 2 removal x16 in their deck.
DesolatorMagic I was seeing removals at turn 1 on many games, so it's likely that most people were running very heavy removal. Even with that said, this deck requires a very consistent initial hand because it has very few, and weak, draw advantage cards in it. It's great that many people are reporting success with it, but that might not mean much given survivorship bias.
And relax: I didn't insult you personally, why you're attacking me personally on the other hand I do not know. Beyond that my points still stand, it can be stopped, and there are control decks that can do it (and apparently they're either hyper concentrated at my LGS, or you and others have been getting lucky at not running across them).
Melting Sky Yeah your experience is echoing mine exactly. I'm actually thinking of replacing mage ring bully with thermo alchemist because of the repeated untap-tap loop you can get going with your pump spells. Since the damage is direct to player there's not much that can be done about it.
Also considering sideboarding a bit of burn/draw depending, but we'll see. It's a fun deck, and really fun when it works, but nearly everyone I played wrecked it just because of how heavy they were with speed removal like you noted.
+DesolatorMagic dude, seriously? No disrespect, but saying that the only reason your deck lost in another players hands is because they are terrible is really trashy. A budget deck (Except maybe Thermo TITI) isn't going to beat Bant Company, W/B control, or any other tier 1 decks. Their is a reason why U/W spirits crashed in the meta, because for it's price it is just a worse COCO deck. If this deck was this good it would be relevant in the meta currently, as TITI (It's less than 130 and half that if you take out Baby Jace) is (hovering at about 5% and in the top 10 most played decks according to MTGoldfish)
I keep coming 3rd because of Netdeckers, lost to GW tokens yesterday, turns out it's still better than red tokens.
Also no Slip Though Space?
if you follow this deck you are a netdecker lol its okay to play some decks from online from time to time ,just make sure u building ur own and be imaginative😂.
Wish I found your channel ages ago I would've used your deck instead of dicking around with zombies and vampires... Looking forward to your builds for kaladesh standard!
Any good rebound spells in Standard right now?
Bought the deck lol been looking for another good standard budget deck, and this looks like a fun one
How much is it man?
I think I spent $25 on it including shivens and wandering fumaroles
+CraigslistGameFinds thanks
I think I might go with a sprits blue, white deck.
No problem! Is that pretty cheap too?
if I copy this deck wouldn't it be netdecking???
Drew Horst There are some cards in standard that improve on some of the spells. You could swap them in, but it would be convenient if Prowess became evergreen.
What are you going to replace the rotated cards with?
how good is this against bant company?
desolator magic what about mirror wing dragon
Why no Slip Through Space?
I've been working on a blue/red deck myself because of Mr Nibbles take over potential. Through I'm trying out Weaver of Lightning and burn instead of combat tricks.
I'm thinking him in mono blue + his cousin, the card that taps creatures whenever spirits enter the battlefield and a ton of blue spirits plus giant blue aggro creatures and tons of counterspells might work.
Gonna try this deck. Everyone's playing COCO here... -.-
Are you going to 'buff' up Mr Nibbles now that Kaladesh is out? ...with stuff like built to smash?
You could add Jace's sanctum to reduce all instants and sorcerys manna costs by one.
I am no pro, and haven't been playing as long as you, but may I ask why you aren't using slip through space? it seems like it would really help.
Des said it was because this deck is supposed to win on turn 4 or 5; slip through space just slows the process down, apparently.
why not just roll 61 cards for your added fury? Gasp sacrilege more than 60 cards lol
Would you consider slip through space?
With trample, flying, and the fact that they let a 2/2 through and it becomes a 20/20 I kicked it out of the deck design. If you lower the boost level of the deck at all, it fails miserably.
Did this transition into Modern or is it weak there?
I'm doing a white blue equipment deck its good I also love my mono red deck
Hey man, about how much does this deck cost? Wouldn't mind making it since it seems fun. Making decks is fun and I've (kind of) gotten the hand of designing my own decks although I admit I have ways to go before I get to your level. While I slowly make my own decks better I wouldn't mind dropping some money on this deck, but I need to know how much it costs first.
Desolator how are the matchups vs bant?
Pretty even but this deck forces them to have a perfect opening hand or lose due to sheer speed. If they don't have removal, they lose all their creatures or all their life points on turn 4-5.
What do run in your side board des?
there's no sideboard
15 lands just to mess with your opponents head; they'll be struggling to see what changed
How would this do up against bant company?
It out-speeds it and they let the attackers through too often and die because of it. They need a removal-heavy starting hand and that usually means they can't get their creatures on the field.
OK sounds good. What would you recommend for a side board?
Chris Schneider
I put in turn aside, the 1 cost blue flicker, negate, and then abandoned the sideboard idea as a whole because if you pull ANYTHING out of this deck, it fails to work at all and does more damage than good :P
Chris, 15 lands, just to mess with the opponent's head
untap.in is also really good I think but I'll try our the other one you where talking about
This reminds me of the Nivix Cyclops, Kiln Fiend deck
Exactly what I was thinking. Now, where did I put that playset of Artful Dodge?
what about slip through space, it just seems so powerful in this deck
Haste is very important for more damage quickly
he didnt put in slip through space because sure it helps get dmg. thru but you want 2 attackers instead of just one
so happy i pulled a foil Mr. Nibbles at prerelease
i didn't know it was already in xmage format and spent a half an hour copying it into xmage
hey des! you're videos are awesome! and your Mr.Nibbles deck has inspired me to be douchier than you. I'm building grixis burn mill madness tutelage draw. beat that.
I tried it out and this is surprisingly good. it really is too bad most of it rotates
I went second to a 5 people tournament doing 2-1. The winner went 2-1 getting 2 byes....i dont explain it
des you are a genius. This deck will win pro tour emn. Everyone will copy you .
WHO ARE YOU
? I mean your totally not me
Do you play other formats like EDh or commander? Some of your videos are aimed at standard so I am presuming this to be the only format you play?
He often talks about the state of modern
Sooooo, no commander/ EDH :(
i can say i was pretty much playing this before eldritch moon but using elusive spellfist.
ooo and also look at slip through time great spell for the deck also.
This deck is fun...loved the look on peoples faces when I shoved over 20 damage in one turn and would win in one swing...jajaja..you have to get a near perfect draw for this deck to run properly and a bit of practice..i usually run this and my Red/Black vampire madness at FNM and destroy all
nobody playing UW spirits on the PT
instead of the shivian reefs, try out high mountain lake. it dosent cost any life to use.
with abbot, if you hqve played a land in a turn, you may still play the exiled land. got this call from a level 3 judge.
your judge is wrong lol just checked official rules because it doesn't say you can play without paying mana cost , Google it
More proof that almost all judges i've talked to have very little idea what they're talking about
.DesolatorMagic I know how it feels ma man😂 So just wondering, are you not playing elusive spellfist because it messes up the mana curve?
so much love for mercurial geists 😍
i also see that you have a lot of high costing mana, like i saw way to meny three and four costs, but i see the power here, not trying to trash talk, just giving advise.
Ur channel is so cool!!!