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I LOVE your videos dude! I'm obsessed with EcoFlow and have been "Influencing" for them for about a year now and you help me learn even more! Great, in-depth video. Cheers.
Thanks for adding the refrig test (full run down time from 100%) to your review videos! I've got an older refrig, so this test is great to help me loosely "calibrate" the results to my usage situations across different units you review.
Having the ability to disable DC timeout is amazing! This is exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you so much. Tesla recently disabled low voltage DC when not in the car/outside camp mode, so I bought another power station to fill the gap. My fridge is very efficient and goes long periods without drawing power, so that station ended up disabling the DC output.
So I have another question for you! (I'm still learning and love this stuff and you seem to be very knowledgable!) I have this Delta 2 Max and two EcoFlow 400W panels. I've read a bunch and seem to understand how the MPPT charge controller works (roughly), but I'm able to connect my two panels in parallel correct? Which would technically exceed the max current (and 500W cap of the solar port). To my understanding, The Delta 2 Max and the charge controller will limit the current coming in. And in this video, your four 180W panels would theoretically output 720W so it does cap at 500W, but would it be bad to input 800W or more (assuming you NEVER exceed the voltage limit)? Looking forward to hear what you think! I trust you and your vast knowledge on this stuff. I appreciate all the helpful videos! JF
Since the Delta 2 Max has two solar charging ports, I'd recommend connecting each 400w panel to their own charging port. Then you'll get more power than connecting them in parallel. However...if you happened to connect both 400w panels together in parallel using one charging port, the power station would limit the current as you described and it would not cause an issue.
@@Jasonoid Awesome! Thank you. Yeah my thought was to use one port for the parallel 400Ws and then a 220W on the other! (or two) to max out the 1000W input. 🙌
@@Jasonoid Another question for you! Do I need to worry about the amount of current going through my EcoFlow parallel cables or my XT60 cable? With m 2 400W in parallel it should be around 26A. (12.9x2) Thanks for all your help!
My Delta 2 I can use solar to charge but if I have no sun it will stitch to grid. Or if you have the smart generator at 20% it will start the generator. Up to 80%. So this is more useful than any other one I’ve seen. Thumbs up 👍.
I am looking for a home emergency backup system. I am trying to decide between the new Delta 2 Max and the new Jackery 2000 plus. If I go on vacation and use the system in UPS mode for my refrigerator and freezer and the battery goes dead, does either system turn back on when either solar or ac come back on?
The Delta 2 Max has a 'lab feature' that is supposed to turn everything back on when power is restored. It wasn't active yet when I tested in my video. I think that feature will be working soon. I'm not sure on the Jackery 2000 Plus. I'm hoping to test the 2000 Plus here in the future.
Absolutely the best review. You are straight to the point short and precise, You mention the most important point, really really superb specially with your x-cell sheet, You're the man I go to, to have a real honest review Thanks for your great work.
UA-camr jehugarcia already did this with a server rack 20k setup as well a bunch of recycled scooter batteries as another setup. To show a plug & play turn key setup & diy setup using recycled batteries. But it was using Delta Pro's being charged by the server racks.Same concept may work for the Delta Max.
@@1ENDUSER yeah, usually trying to sell his in stock batteries. He does tend to leave out some details to make it beginner friendly. Great content on his channel. I got into his stuff awhile back when he converted the electric VW van.
I bought 2 of the D2M's. For me they are the perfect size. That app is really slick but not needed, but I do highly recommended. I can monitor the D2M from anywhere I can get internet service.
I almost pulled the trigger on this but I was disappointed in the limitations on the DC side. A PS of this size should offer a 15 amp port. My off grid setup will include a 12v diesel heater.
I was stressing all week about the right solution for our slightly-unplanned off grid living situation. This video answered all my questions. I can’t thank you enough! My family is so glad to have me not obsessing about “mppt” this and “agm battery” that anymore. 😅 This is the most comprehensive review channel I have come across after a huge search. Thank you!
Working NG i Working innf Working into "sound world", just know thay every time you get a 9-10dB variation, it represents TWICE the volume we humans perceive as the actual sound volume being blasted out... So from 60 to 46 décibels, it's a wooorld of improvement when living into a camper !!!!
Window AC will pull 500 watts, that means 4 hours of runtime or so. Expansion battery will double that, runtime if you have solar to offset the the load you can run indefinitely.
@@Jasonoid THANK YOU….👍some knowledge in that the solar panels usually come standard to 100 watts or 5.2 amps which I am deducting from your message then minimum 5 panels? Is an inverted and regulator needed? Are you in the business where I can buy from you or is there someplace you recommend?
Ill be honest, this video just made my decision for me. I will get the unit with the extra battery along with the 400 watt solar panels to use in my home. I will have to do some calculations to see how i can split things up. I guess i will be running a lot of extension cords in my home.
Another excellent analysis and presentation. One item that apparently wasn’t improved is the rear power button. This is a bother in my Delta Max (w two extra batteries) installation in my Airstream Travel Trailer. A front button would be better. That, and the app requiring WiFi rather than bluetooth. We use ours extensively, I’m very satisfied, and figure that by the time I hit 800 cycles with my original Max, there will be a Delta 6 Max.
Thanks for the video. Partially based on a previous video of yours, I’ve set up the Victron 12/24 to recharge the Delta 2 Max (on order) in our Gladiator build which will power our setup. You mention in this video you don’t love the Delta 2 Max for camping/over landing. Can you elaborate? We had a travel trailer and can’t think of anything we can’t power with Delta 2 Max in our Gladiator build. Also have the Glacier fridge with 2 barriers and a River Pro. Feel it’s been a cheaper route with more benefits than doing a dual battery system with a Redarc controller that’s stuck inside Jeep.
The only reason is that the DC output is limited to 130 watts so powering larger DC loads won't work well. If that's not a worry than this will work great since the AC inverter is plenty powerful to run AC stuff.
Jason, was wondering if you would check something for me (us). You showed in this video that maxing out all THREE charging ports (120 VAC & two charge controllers) the Delta 2 Max would combine all three and charged at near 2700 watts!. Now that they released the Ecoflow Alternator Charger that plugs in where the expansion battery would plug into...could you test if you had all three rear charge inputs running and then added the 800 watt alternator charger...would it charge at near 3500 watts ! ?
Thank you so much for this extremely in-depth review. You definitely deserve more views/subs. I had an enquiry in regards to the max voltage for the unit's solar input. On the EcoFlow site it doesn't really state if it's for both ports or per port but because your reviews are so extensive with in-depth analysis and experimentation, I found my answer, so thank you. So just to clarify once more, on the XT60 connections it's 60v max per port, correct?
Yep you can only connect solar panels with a total voltage of 60 volts max per port. So one array of 60 volts on one port, and another array of 60 volts on the other. Two separate arrays for up to 1000 watts.
Once again a great review. I did not hear anything about a wireless charge pad so I assume no. It also did not support bi-directional charging via USB C ports or 240 volt outlet via the connecting cable to the add on battery, BUT the 2 PV charging ports, each capable of 500 watts, the upgrade to LFP battery and the new fans are fantastic additions and changes.
excellent review. I am working on home emergency backup. I have sub panel in place only 120v, I just need outlet, will a regular outlet work or do I need special outlet to plug in the Delta 2 MAX. I would also be using the automation feature to shift the charging to a lower rate time. hope you could provide more info on this feature in the future. Thanks again for excellent review.
You'll need to install a 'transfer switch' or a main panel 'interlock' in order to safely run your home circuits off a power station. I have installed a couple of them, they are simple to install if you follow the detailed install instructions. Here's a video of my first one I installed: ua-cam.com/video/eiWnqukg9mM/v-deo.html I now have a 10 circuit model I installed that supports 240v input.
Understood. The sub panel has its own circuit breakers for each line. Does that not count as a transfer switch. I looked at video, very informative. I believe I have a similar setup, I believe I just need to add a three pronged plug then add delta 2 max. I am thinking of adding EG4 battery because it adds more wattage than ECOFLOW expansion battery. Thank you for your response and videos are very informative. My main goal is to transfer electric loads to a cheaper rates at night. The ECOFLOW is offering that possibility, trouble finding info or videos on that function which I think will grow in use in the future. Thank you very much.
@@salsero23 a transfer switch disconnects line power and uses the power station as the power source. You'll need a transfer switch to get the same effect.
I purchased the Delta 2 MAX. All is working great. I am not having success with the automation portion of the app. I cannot seem to find much on its use. working with ECOFLOW now with this issue. This may be the subject for a short video in the future.
Ok BLUETTI, the ball is on your side of the court. I am a Bluetti user, but I think Bluetti needs to put out a smart generator like Ecoflow’s. I know you can use a regular generator, but the conversion loss puts it at a disadvantage to the smart generator.
Thanks for the thorough breakdown! That's my first order down. Wasn't able to use those referrals if those codes acted as them (US-only) but to my surprise EcoFlow has a whole credits/points system with fairly nice rewards. What an interesting feeling doing something of this level just in case (especially with what El Nino cloud bring weather wise).
While it may not be officially supported, it should still connect and charge / discharge. My friend connected his older Delta Max (NMC) battery to it and it worked.
@Jasonoid, Excellent excellent review! I'm waiting on delivery of my Delta 2 Max and this single video has answered so many of my questions! One thing I would really like to find out pertains to the dual charging capability. I'm curious if I can limit the AC charging speed via the app, and also use a few of the Newpowa panels you linked to "top up" the battery during the day while effectively supplementing a portion of the AC output at night. It may require some trial and error to strike a good balance, but any idea if this could work?
Are you saying that if grid power goes down this unit can simply be plugged into any wall outlet and pass that power through all the lines and power my refrigerator, television, lamps? So i wouldnt need to get an electrician to install a generator plug into my breaker panel?
It only powers the appliances connected to the inverter outlets on the back. The 120v outlets need to be connected to your devices for them to be powered.
The one thing I cared most about was not properly demonstrated because you connected another battery to it. I’d like to know how long it would last with say a fridge, a fan, some lightbulbs and a TV plugged into it (in case of a power outage)
@@Jasonoid ok. But how about a full on test like that? Real world where there’s a power outage type situation! (With just the one battery like most people would have) until it runs out.
While they might not be officially supported by EcoFlow, I have seen the older Delta Max batteries charge and discharge with this newer model that my friend tested. So it might be compatible the other way around too.
I live in Canada and just bought the Delta 2 Max with the 200w solar panel. I like the reveiw that you did and I think I will be very happy with it. The only question that I did find an answer to is How long of a cable can I use between the Delta and the solar panel ? And what type 10 or 12AWG?
I did a whole video on voltage drop, you might find it helpful: ua-cam.com/video/AZIBmFBzBGs/v-deo.html I'd recommend using 10awg wire for anything over 30 feet. 12awg wire for a run less than that.
I have a Renogy 200 watt solar suitcase and run up to 160 feet of 8AWG cables. I have seen the following currents: 40 feet: 11.2 A 80 feet: 10.2 A 160 feet: 9.2 A Yeah, deep in the shade :)
@@mt.sylvania9218 yeah that's a long run for a solar panel. If you ever get two panels for more power, running them in series will really help with the voltage drop (as long as your power station can handle panels in series)
i like my delta pro but i wish it could take a lot more solar and i wish it would charge from the wall while it runs an air conditioner instead of kicking on and off
I've heard good things about the Delta Pro but I don't have one personally. It was the first large unit that they made so I think they will plan to update it eventually. Hopefully with more solar input and other improvements!
Watched your video again, because of you I have learned so much, whereas at the beginning I did not have enough knowledge to ask a proper question. I have the Delta 2000 max that I use as a EPS for my fridge when I travel out of town. Do you know if I purchased an extension battery and left it turned on with the Delta 2000 max if it would eventually drain, or would it maintain its charge due to the EPS function or pass through charging? I hope I made sense.
Would be interested in brownout tests of power stations using a Variac ( Variable Autotransformer ). I don’t think I’ve seen that on any other channel. Saw a report on one EPS review that the power station shutdown for the user instead of switching to battery in a brownout condition.
Jason, great review and summary of the specs to include pros/cons of the Delta2 Max, I purchased one today and Eco Flow (if you don't login to their site) is offering the Delta2 Max and 2 Free 110W Solar Panels for FREE for under $2100. This help when PGE invokes energy blackouts this summer. I'll pick up a Smart X battery after I receive my unit.
Using the 19v voc panels in a 3s configuration would not be recommended for a long term setup. Panels are rated at 70f typically and will produce more voltage as they get colder. Your 3s array would go well above 60v in colder temps.
Yeah. I thought that would be an issue so I tested them through the winter many times, they never went over 19v surprisingly. I had them in this same config on my AC500 batteries and my Delta 2 (both have 60v cuttoffs). They usually sit around 55 volts to 57 volts VOC.
If you use a 12V DC-DC 20A charger will it charge at 20A? Or do you need to go with 12-24V boost converter? Similarly, if you put the metal pin cable on 12V car, how much will it pull from car circuit?
Question about output of barrel plugs. I thought the max was 3 amps... so 3x12.5volts - is about 37ish watts. Did you say you were able to pull 137 watts from the barrel port?? how can this be? I can understand maybe getting that from the 12v cig socket but don't understand that wattage come from barrel port. Did I misunderstand you? thank you.
In my testing the max wattage allowed from the any of the DC ports is 137 watts. You can get that from the cigarette port or the barrel ports. The recommended max power is 3 amps but it doesn't stop there.
What do you think would be the best inexpensive off grid 12v battery to start with, drop in type v server rack for indoor install that can easily be exapnded upon and initially run 12v appliances?
You'd want a 12v LFP battery that accepts series connections so you can expand in the future to higher voltage and has low temp charging protection. This Dr. Prepare battery is an excellent value and is priced really good right now ($300 or so): ua-cam.com/video/dd1W8_tdl2c/v-deo.html
My eco 2 with smart battery runs my fullsize top loading washing machine for numerous loads , but when tried it with my electric clothes dryer it stopped ' "overload". Will the ecoflow delta 2 max run my electric clothes dryer with added smart battery? Both are whirlpool. I'm elderly so the bigger batteries are not an option. Thank you
Why would you think two Ecco delta 2 max units should not be connected for longer time back up. I Would rather have 2 main units versus one plus an accessory expansion battery….for better individual..separate usage…….but also I like idea of a total 4 k linked storage capacity. Thoughts on risks? Thanks
They aren't designed to be connected together like the expansion batteries. You could definitely use one main unit, once it's near empty, plug in the second unit. The first unit could start charging back up while the second one is in use.
I want to see the VOLTAGE under various loads with a voltage tester or kilowatt meter. If the voltage drops below 117 volts under full load, I call that a failure.
Hello again from Spain, Jasón, tengo una pregunta porfavor, la batería adicional Delta2(1kw) es compatible, se puede usar junto con la Ecoflow Delta2 Max(2kw) ? Thanks again!
Does it have Bluetooth yet? You mentioned Bluetooth, but I want to verify, as my Delta Max doesn't. My direct connect always times out. I use it in my overland rig with an upgraded alternator and a properly-installed 2000w inverter. But the app always times out and I have to reach down into the Ecoflow compartment to reconnect via wifi.
Just got mine today, at first it asked for wifi so I turned on my phone’s hotspot and connected it tried to update but it didn’t do so it disconnected from wifi and now I’m just using it with Bluetooth.
Great review, the Delta 2 Max looks like a really nice piece of equipment however I've already bought the Delta 2 and extra battery, my budget won't allow more lol
So a Delta max add on battery can work on a delta 2 max unit, but what about the other way around, they will make a Delta 2 max add on battery, would this work with the Delta Max?
I think it goes either way, I don't have both to test with but Todd Parker (he's got a youtube channel with a review) tested the old Max batteries and they worked.
@@Jasonoid Will definitely check this channel out to find out, Thanks, I did see some sales of the Delta 2 Smart battery which have a Note under that says 'For the Delta 2 models only' - Im hoping this is just due to a lack of information. To me it feels like it might not work due to the different battery chemistries ,but i really hope it does.Otherwise it causes upgrade issues for many with Gen 1 products. Why would one pay the same price to get a 800cycle battery instead of a 3000cycle one. But ill check the video out,maybe he clarifies this more
Any idea if the older EcoFlow Delta Max can be used as a smart extra battery for the EcoFlow Delta 2 Max via the side extra battery port? I have both units and would like to use them together.
I'd say the biggest factors is the difference in battery chemistry. One is lithium ion and one is LFP. You could always connect them together to see what will happen. Ecoflow told me they aren't designed to be used but it still might work.
Hi, Does the Delta 2 Max unit has kind self heating batterie or temperature control inside for the cold time? And do we need to make full charged/Discharged in first time? Thanks
It might be just fine. The batteries are pretty secured inside the power station. If nothing sounds loose inside than just test it out and see how it goes!
If your appliances use 120 volts, they will plug into the 2400 watt inverter. This will power a full sized fridge, microwaves, and other appliances. It will not power 240v appliances like electric stoves or electric dryers / heaters.
Great review from your premier power station review site. Bought the Bluetti EB55 after viewing your review a while back. Now looking at the smaller Ecoflow Delta 2. Is it compatible with the new Delta 2 Max 2 KWh extra battery?
The Anker has a 30 amp RV receptacle but it supports the same 20 amp output as this (2400 watts). You could always buy this adapter to get the same thing on the Delta 2 Max: amzn.to/45vJVbj
From my experience last year when contacting ecoflow with questions on their ecoflow max it was very good. I sent them 3 emails, and got back confirmation that they received my email and I would get a response. Within 12 to 24 hours they sent me back answers to my questions, and even transferred my email to one of their techs. I called then also twice and though i didn't get through initially, I left a call back on their voicemail. Both times they got back to me within a day. I think the reason for not reaching them by email or phone initially is the time difference . I called and emailed them here in the US in the morning, and I think it was after midnight overseas. They got back to me once business hours resumed is my take.
So.... I have the original Delta Max which has 800W total solar charging using a single input, and I own four 220W panels (connected with a single 50' 10awg feeder from yard to shop) so I could max out it's charging capabilities. If I bought this unit, I would have to buy another 50' feeder to then split the solar feed to 500W each between two inputs.
Yeah, you'd want to connect two of those 220w panels in series for one input, and then the other two in series for the second input. It would require a second power line as you mentioned to get all the power back to the unit. Of course the perfect scenario would have been 150v input @ 15amps, 1000 watts but we didn't get that 😔
@jasonoid in your expert opinion what do think the best portable power station for overlanding for at least a week would be? I had my mind made up about this throughout the video and for you to say that it wouldn't be the best for overlanding was disappointing. Any advise? I typically have a fridge heaters and appliances for cooking charging devices and other peoples stuff.
If you are only powering a DC fridge on the 12v sockets it will work great. If you want to power more 12v devices at the same time, that's where it won't handle the output. It all depends on what you are trying to power. The AC inverter works really well on this model so if you were using the inverter for your appliances it will work just fine. Things that won't work: - diesel heaters - 12v aircompressors - Anything DC that pulls over 140 watts
I’m a newbie and trying to understand the solar ports on this model…is it correct that EACH port can handle up to 60voc or is it 60voc total across both ports? I understand that in series you must add each of the panel’s in the series voc rating to get the total output. Thanks in advance.
@Jasonoid eg4 battery + ecoflow delra 2 (not the max) + 500 watts of solar input. Can the Delta 2 charge the eg4 at the same time it has a sub 500w load supplied, say 300 watt home office leaving an excess of 200w left over for charging?
@@MyChannel-vm6dw thanks for clarifying your desired setup. The EG4 will need some sort of charger attached to charge it back up. The Delta 2 can't charge it automatically with the spare 200 watts. If you had an adjustable 60v power supply plugged into the AC inverter of the Delta 2, you could set the charging speed to 200 watts and it would work well.
could you charge this delta 2 max using a battery like the powerqueen 12.8v 200Ah with 2 xt60i cables connected going to both charge ports at the same time? that would charge it at like 400 watts input id guess.
12v batteries charge the power station at 100w, so 100w per port, 200w total. You need to boost the voltage to 24v or 36v to get faster charging speeds.
Check out the time stamps and go to the charging section. I tested dual charging with AC and solar and it worked just fine. The app also has settings priority for solar.
Hi. Thank you for your review. Could you please clarify if it is possible to connect Delta 2 Max to Delta 2 via the corresponding charging port for an Extra Battery and vice versa? I have Delta 2 and would like to increase the capacity, however, I do not wish to buy an Extra Battery for 2kWh since it has no functionality and the price difference is also small. I am from Ukraine and the difference in price is less than $400 (about $2050 for Delta 2 Max and about $1650 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery) if you buy not from the official Ecoflow store since the price for Europe is much higher (about EUR 2100 for Delta 2 Max - it is about $2300, and EUR1500 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery - it is about $1600). For US the difference is about $350 ($1749 for Delta 2 Max and about $1399 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery). If I pay this difference I will receive the "stand-alone" device which I can use anywhere. Also, could you please let me know, if it is possible to connect the Delta 2 Max Extra Battery ordered from US to my European Delta 2 since there is a difference in voltages: 220V vs 110V? As I understand, the Extra Battery charges the "main battery" with its "own" voltage from 48v to 60v (and vise versa), and on Black Friday, for example, I may get a good discount from Ecoflow US official store or Amazon))). In such a case Delta 2 Max Extra Battery is worth the money. Thank you in advance.
The power stations cannot connect to eachother directly, they can only connect to their smart batteries. I'd recommend using a standalone battery to extend the runtime of your power station. I have a video about that here: ua-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/v-deo.html
New firmware update today claims: "Shortened UPS time from 30 ms to less than 20 ms." plus "Optimized energy management". Can you update your Delta 2 MAX and test the PC again?
I have a technical question, that none of the review videos seem to address about these. I'm not interested in running a fridge or a whole house full of appliances. I simply have 1125 watts of 5V Dream color changing LEDs, about 25 strips 1 to 2 meters in length, each meter has 144 LEDs. Each 1 meter length is 45W. My question is, how long will this 1000Wh power station be able to operate them? According to my calculator 45 x 25 = 1125. By that math this new and improved power station could only operate these lights for less than an hour. Is that correct? What's twisting my head in a knot is, that one 45W strip can be powered by a single 20,000mAh 74Wh Li-ion rechargeable power bank via a 5v 2A usb port for 1 hour and only drain about 25% of its available power. Am I missing something here? It seems as though buying 25 individual power banks will cost less and offer me far more illumination time than this power station.
Sounds like the 'rated power' is way higher than what the LED lights actually pull. Do you have a way to see the actually wattage of the LEDs as they are running? If you are plugging these LED lights into a '5v 2 amp' USB port is only rated for 10 watts, so technically you can't be pulling more than 10 watts for the entire string (especially if you aren't injecting power down the line). If you are running the lights off a small USB power bank and getting about 4 hours of runtime, you'd probably get around 100 hours or 200 hours of runtime on a large power station like this. You could probably go with a smaller more affordable option and get great results.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for your quick reply to my comment. I hope you're correct, suggesting that I could use something smaller and more affordable. The thought of having to carry a 50+ pound power station for this purpose wasn't appealing. I'm afraid that as far as technical understanding to determine what the light strip's draw might be is beyond me. However, I may be able to get that determination answered via some help. I'll head over to where I can seek that answer now and hope they can offer me some understanding.
@@regmiles Your 5v usb port wouldn't function on more than 10 watts of power. So those LED lights can't be drawing much power. Good luck on finding out more about your power draw. You should be fine on even a 500wh power station.
That's interesting. I have the 240volt version of the Max. Very quiet ac when using a hi-fi system. Just wanting to see the Mini tests compared to Max. I might just have to buy one to find out.
Hi..can you tell me please...in 1 port you can put 15 amp with 60 v .and the second same...or you have too put 15 amp with 30v one panel and the second same...I have at home delta 2 max and powerstream but both panel ecoflow 2(400w) is conected with the powerstream...and I know the delta 2 max is a now firmware...you can conected 2 panel for powerstream and 2 for Delta....I want buy another 2 but not same ..im confused how much Amp and Volt can I put in one port....
I am building a overlanding Suburban, would the Delta 2 or the Delta 2 max be better. I was thinking about the Delta 2 with the Delta 2 max expansion battery to run the Wave 2.
They are both capable power stations. The Wave 2 uses quite a bit of power so the larger the battery the better. What do you plan to run off the DC output in your rig? Just a 12v fridge? Anything else?
@Jasonoid a refrigerator and charging up your usual 12 V stuff. I also have some 12 volt roasting oven and cook pots that I would like to be able to run. I am planning on living in it for 3 or 4 months at the time.
@@adamtedder700 you'll need to verify your entire load does never goes over 140 watts, that's the limit on this unit. I'm thinking those devices will go over 149 watts. It might be better for you to look at the AC200MAX from Bluetti, it has a 30 amp DC output that can handle over 300 watts of power, so much more.
Like to see the comparison video. Question…lets just say you have no smart device. No BT or WiFi. Can you still make any of those changes to through the screen on the Delta 2 max? Love that the fans are so much quieter now. This is just out of my fixed budget so i interested in the comparison video. Keep up the good work. Thanks for all you do!
The settings are only controllable via the smart app. If you didn't have a smart phone you could always have a friend / family member use their phone to set the settings up as you like.
Hi Jason, What if I overpanel with 6*100W Renogy black lightweight place in 3 arrays serie in paralle (VOC 23.5V, VMP 19.4V, ISC 5.51A an IMP 5.2A) My 3 arrays serie was 47V@5.2A seem to be 47V@15.6A total. Does this 600W panels will cause problem or my Delta 2 max will just take he maximum at 500W? Thanks
You'd be fine connecting those panels in a 2S3P array and you'd see a limit of 500 watts when connecting them. The second option would be connecting 4 panels to one port and the other two panels to the second charging port.
The Delta 2 fans are definitely louder than the Delta 2 Max fans. The new Max fans are very quiet. I have videos of both being tested so if you watch both videos in two different tabs at the same time you can hear how they sound.
@@htran8474 the Delta 2 expansion battery doesn't have any ports on it. You can only charge it by connecting to the power station. In that case maybe it's better to have two Delta 2's. Be using one and charging the second one and then swap them out when the battery gets low with the full power station?
Great video! Really looking forward to more info on hacking our own 'expansion' batteries. Question: With the Delta2Max's dual 60V 15A solar inputs, did it really limit each to 500W despite that it theoretically could handle 900W (60x15) and voltage is usually the limiting variable, or was that just a coincidence with your panel & sun setup?
Here's the video using expansion batteries: ua-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/v-deo.html Each charge controller is limited to 500 watts, even if you have it maxed out at 60v and 15 amps.
If the compressors ran 24/7 for both your fridge and freezer, they would last around 8 hours. Usually the compressors don't run all the time (kinda depends on ambient temps). I am guessing you'd get close to 15 to 20 hours runtime without charging.
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@@Jasonoid yeah their generic 5% off coupon is the same discount as yours... not very nice.
as per ups switch gap problem would it solve with an inline module for small time ups surge protector style
@@indegruv if you purchase a true small UPS unit and put it inline with the inverter that will bypass the slowness for sure.
I LOVE your videos dude! I'm obsessed with EcoFlow and have been "Influencing" for them for about a year now and you help me learn even more! Great, in-depth video. Cheers.
That's fantastic!. Keep up the great work, and continue spreading the EcoFlow love!❤😀
@@EcoFlowTech Always!
Thanks for adding the refrig test (full run down time from 100%) to your review videos! I've got an older refrig, so this test is great to help me loosely "calibrate" the results to my usage situations across different units you review.
Having the ability to disable DC timeout is amazing! This is exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you so much. Tesla recently disabled low voltage DC when not in the car/outside camp mode, so I bought another power station to fill the gap. My fridge is very efficient and goes long periods without drawing power, so that station ended up disabling the DC output.
So I have another question for you! (I'm still learning and love this stuff and you seem to be very knowledgable!)
I have this Delta 2 Max and two EcoFlow 400W panels. I've read a bunch and seem to understand how the MPPT charge controller works (roughly), but I'm able to connect my two panels in parallel correct? Which would technically exceed the max current (and 500W cap of the solar port). To my understanding, The Delta 2 Max and the charge controller will limit the current coming in. And in this video, your four 180W panels would theoretically output 720W so it does cap at 500W, but would it be bad to input 800W or more (assuming you NEVER exceed the voltage limit)?
Looking forward to hear what you think! I trust you and your vast knowledge on this stuff. I appreciate all the helpful videos!
JF
Since the Delta 2 Max has two solar charging ports, I'd recommend connecting each 400w panel to their own charging port. Then you'll get more power than connecting them in parallel. However...if you happened to connect both 400w panels together in parallel using one charging port, the power station would limit the current as you described and it would not cause an issue.
@@Jasonoid Awesome! Thank you. Yeah my thought was to use one port for the parallel 400Ws and then a 220W on the other! (or two) to max out the 1000W input. 🙌
@@Jasonoid Another question for you! Do I need to worry about the amount of current going through my EcoFlow parallel cables or my XT60 cable? With m 2 400W in parallel it should be around 26A. (12.9x2) Thanks for all your help!
@@Voicesofjake since the power station limits the current to 13 amps, you'll only see 13 amps through your wiring, no need to worry about it.
@@Jasonoid Oh perfect! So throughout the whole setup, it'll only draw the max the power station can have?
My Delta 2 I can use solar to charge but if I have no sun it will stitch to grid. Or if you have the smart generator at 20% it will start the generator. Up to 80%. So this is more useful than any other one I’ve seen. Thumbs up 👍.
I am looking for a home emergency backup system. I am trying to decide between the new Delta 2 Max and the new Jackery 2000 plus. If I go on vacation and use the system in UPS mode for my refrigerator and freezer and the battery goes dead, does either system turn back on when either solar or ac come back on?
The Delta 2 Max has a 'lab feature' that is supposed to turn everything back on when power is restored. It wasn't active yet when I tested in my video. I think that feature will be working soon. I'm not sure on the Jackery 2000 Plus. I'm hoping to test the 2000 Plus here in the future.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for your response
you can tell he didn't pay for it when he's shooting off sawdust so close to the fans
Absolutely the best review. You are straight to the point short and precise, You mention the most important point, really really superb specially with your x-cell sheet, You're the man I go to, to have a real honest review Thanks for your great work.
Just picked this up with two free ecoflow 160w panels for $1574.
EG4! Please make a video with the Sever rack battery as a expansion!
Sounds good! 👍😁
+1. With the limited DC output, using a 48V external battery makes a lot of sense. Especially with more IT and other equipment running on 48V now.
UA-camr jehugarcia already did this with a server rack 20k setup as well a bunch of recycled scooter batteries as another setup. To show a plug & play turn key setup & diy setup using recycled batteries. But it was using Delta Pro's being charged by the server racks.Same concept may work for the Delta Max.
@@1ENDUSER yeah, usually trying to sell his in stock batteries. He does tend to leave out some details to make it beginner friendly. Great content on his channel. I got into his stuff awhile back when he converted the electric VW van.
I bought 2 of the D2M's. For me they are the perfect size. That app is really slick but not needed, but I do highly recommended. I can monitor the D2M from anywhere I can get internet service.
I almost pulled the trigger on this but I was disappointed in the limitations on the DC side. A PS of this size should offer a 15 amp port. My off grid setup will include a 12v diesel heater.
Yeah, that's sure one of the cons. Bluetti has 30 / 25 amp DC outputs which is an attractive feature!
I was stressing all week about the right solution for our slightly-unplanned off grid living situation. This video answered all my questions. I can’t thank you enough! My family is so glad to have me not obsessing about “mppt” this and “agm battery” that anymore. 😅 This is the most comprehensive review channel I have come across after a huge search. Thank you!
Glad it helped! The Delta 2 Max is a great offering and works really well.
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Working into "sound world", just know thay every time you get a 9-10dB variation, it represents TWICE the volume we humans perceive as the actual sound volume being blasted out... So from 60 to 46 décibels, it's a wooorld of improvement when living into a camper !!!!
If you plug in Ecoflow unit into a window small A/C unit , how many hours can you get out of it before having to recharge?
Window AC will pull 500 watts, that means 4 hours of runtime or so. Expansion battery will double that, runtime if you have solar to offset the the load you can run indefinitely.
@@Jasonoid THANK YOU….👍some knowledge in that the solar panels usually come standard to 100 watts or 5.2 amps which I am deducting from your message then minimum 5 panels? Is an inverted and regulator needed? Are you in the business where I can buy from you or is there someplace you recommend?
@@williamzee7748 these will work great, one per charging port:
ua-cam.com/video/pLRKljjaqMA/v-deo.html
Thanks for the great review. I loved the panel testing.
I always try to show real world solar testing in my videos.
Thanks!
Thank you so much! Much appreciated!
The smaller Delta 2 w/extra battery is $1049 at Home Depot right now.
Ill be honest, this video just made my decision for me. I will get the unit with the extra battery along with the 400 watt solar panels to use in my home. I will have to do some calculations to see how i can split things up. I guess i will be running a lot of extension cords in my home.
Great idea Eco flow delta pro ultra test it out on UA-cam videos 👍 please show
I'm planning to test the EF Delta Ultra!
Nice one. I think I need to look at the spreadsheet again, as I am considering another large power station.
Decisions, decisions. So many options available.
I’ll wait till Black Friday. When they’ll be at around $1500
Another excellent analysis and presentation. One item that apparently wasn’t improved is the rear power button. This is a bother in my Delta Max (w two extra batteries) installation in my Airstream Travel Trailer. A front button would be better. That, and the app requiring WiFi rather than bluetooth. We use ours extensively, I’m very satisfied, and figure that by the time I hit 800 cycles with my original Max, there will be a Delta 6 Max.
Thanks for the video. Partially based on a previous video of yours, I’ve set up the Victron 12/24 to recharge the Delta 2 Max (on order) in our Gladiator build which will power our setup. You mention in this video you don’t love the Delta 2 Max for camping/over landing. Can you elaborate? We had a travel trailer and can’t think of anything we can’t power with Delta 2 Max in our Gladiator build. Also have the Glacier fridge with 2 barriers and a River Pro. Feel it’s been a cheaper route with more benefits than doing a dual battery system with a Redarc controller that’s stuck inside Jeep.
The only reason is that the DC output is limited to 130 watts so powering larger DC loads won't work well. If that's not a worry than this will work great since the AC inverter is plenty powerful to run AC stuff.
Jason, was wondering if you would check something for me (us). You showed in this video that maxing out all THREE charging ports (120 VAC & two charge controllers) the Delta 2 Max would combine all three and charged at near 2700 watts!. Now that they released the Ecoflow Alternator Charger that plugs in where the expansion battery would plug into...could you test if you had all three rear charge inputs running and then added the 800 watt alternator charger...would it charge at near 3500 watts ! ?
Thank you so much for this extremely in-depth review. You definitely deserve more views/subs.
I had an enquiry in regards to the max voltage for the unit's solar input. On the EcoFlow site it doesn't really state if it's for both ports or per port but because your reviews are so extensive with in-depth analysis and experimentation, I found my answer, so thank you. So just to clarify once more, on the XT60 connections it's 60v max per port, correct?
Yep you can only connect solar panels with a total voltage of 60 volts max per port. So one array of 60 volts on one port, and another array of 60 volts on the other. Two separate arrays for up to 1000 watts.
Once again a great review. I did not hear anything about a wireless charge pad so I assume no. It also did not support bi-directional charging via USB C ports or 240 volt outlet via the connecting cable to the add on battery, BUT the 2 PV charging ports, each capable of 500 watts, the upgrade to LFP battery and the new fans are fantastic additions and changes.
Yeah, no wireless charging nor bidirectional USBc ports but the LFP and dual charging ports upgrades are very good in my opinion.
With the new Ecoflow alternator charger the delta 2 max is an awesome power kit for campers or van lifers.
That new car charger is a pretty cool device.
excellent review. I am working on home emergency backup. I have sub panel in place only 120v, I just need outlet, will a regular outlet work or do I need special outlet to plug in the Delta 2 MAX. I would also be using the automation feature to shift the charging to a lower rate time. hope you could provide more info on this feature in the future. Thanks again for excellent review.
You'll need to install a 'transfer switch' or a main panel 'interlock' in order to safely run your home circuits off a power station. I have installed a couple of them, they are simple to install if you follow the detailed install instructions. Here's a video of my first one I installed:
ua-cam.com/video/eiWnqukg9mM/v-deo.html
I now have a 10 circuit model I installed that supports 240v input.
Understood. The sub panel has its own circuit breakers for each line. Does that not count as a transfer switch. I looked at video, very informative. I believe I have a similar setup, I believe I just need to add a three pronged plug then add delta 2 max. I am thinking of adding EG4 battery because it adds more wattage than ECOFLOW expansion battery. Thank you for your response and videos are very informative. My main goal is to transfer electric loads to a cheaper rates at night. The ECOFLOW is offering that possibility, trouble finding info or videos on that function which I think will grow in use in the future. Thank you very much.
@@salsero23 a transfer switch disconnects line power and uses the power station as the power source. You'll need a transfer switch to get the same effect.
I purchased the Delta 2 MAX. All is working great. I am not having success with the automation portion of the app. I cannot seem to find much on its use. working with ECOFLOW now with this issue. This may be the subject for a short video in the future.
Ok BLUETTI, the ball is on your side of the court. I am a Bluetti user, but I think Bluetti needs to put out a smart generator like Ecoflow’s. I know you can use a regular generator, but the conversion loss puts it at a disadvantage to the smart generator.
Bluetti vs Ecoflow
Let the games begin..🔥⚡️🔥⚡️🔥
Indeed, having a smart generator like EcoFlow's brings several advantages over the others ones.✌
@EcoFlowTech your product are not that great for solar input.
great improvement those new fans
Thanks for the thorough breakdown! That's my first order down. Wasn't able to use those referrals if those codes acted as them (US-only) but to my surprise EcoFlow has a whole credits/points system with fairly nice rewards. What an interesting feeling doing something of this level just in case (especially with what El Nino cloud bring weather wise).
I have the Delta 2 with extra LifPo battery, will that extra battery work on the Delta 2 Max?
While it may not be officially supported, it should still connect and charge / discharge. My friend connected his older Delta Max (NMC) battery to it and it worked.
@Jasonoid, Excellent excellent review! I'm waiting on delivery of my Delta 2 Max and this single video has answered so many of my questions! One thing I would really like to find out pertains to the dual charging capability. I'm curious if I can limit the AC charging speed via the app, and also use a few of the Newpowa panels you linked to "top up" the battery during the day while effectively supplementing a portion of the AC output at night. It may require some trial and error to strike a good balance, but any idea if this could work?
Are you saying that if grid power goes down this unit can simply be plugged into any wall outlet and pass that power through all the lines and power my refrigerator, television, lamps? So i wouldnt need to get an electrician to install a generator plug into my breaker panel?
It only powers the appliances connected to the inverter outlets on the back. The 120v outlets need to be connected to your devices for them to be powered.
The one thing I cared most about was not properly demonstrated because you connected another battery to it. I’d like to know how long it would last with say a fridge, a fan, some lightbulbs and a TV plugged into it (in case of a power outage)
Take that runtime and divide it in half, that's how long you'll get. The extra battery doubles the runtime exactly.
@@Jasonoid ok. But how about a full on test like that? Real world where there’s a power outage type situation! (With just the one battery like most people would have) until it runs out.
@@raphymartinez I don't have a Delta Pro to test with unfortunately.
Hi! Very nice review! Are the new LFP extra batteries compatible with the delta max?
While they might not be officially supported by EcoFlow, I have seen the older Delta Max batteries charge and discharge with this newer model that my friend tested. So it might be compatible the other way around too.
Thanks for the reply!
I live in Canada and just bought the Delta 2 Max with the 200w solar panel. I like the reveiw that you did and I think I will be very happy with it.
The only question that I did find an answer to is How long of a cable can I use between the Delta and the solar panel ? And what type 10 or 12AWG?
I did a whole video on voltage drop, you might find it helpful:
ua-cam.com/video/AZIBmFBzBGs/v-deo.html
I'd recommend using 10awg wire for anything over 30 feet. 12awg wire for a run less than that.
I have a Renogy 200 watt solar suitcase and run up to 160 feet of 8AWG cables. I have seen the following currents:
40 feet: 11.2 A
80 feet: 10.2 A
160 feet: 9.2 A
Yeah, deep in the shade :)
@@mt.sylvania9218 yeah that's a long run for a solar panel. If you ever get two panels for more power, running them in series will really help with the voltage drop (as long as your power station can handle panels in series)
i like my delta pro but i wish it could take a lot more solar and i wish it would charge from the wall while it runs an air conditioner instead of kicking on and off
I've heard good things about the Delta Pro but I don't have one personally. It was the first large unit that they made so I think they will plan to update it eventually. Hopefully with more solar input and other improvements!
Watched your video again, because of you I have learned so much, whereas at the beginning I did not have enough knowledge to ask a proper question. I have the Delta 2000 max that I use as a EPS for my fridge when I travel out of town. Do you know if I purchased an extension battery and left it turned on with the Delta 2000 max if it would eventually drain, or would it maintain its charge due to the EPS function or pass through charging? I hope I made sense.
Would be interested in brownout tests of power stations using a Variac ( Variable Autotransformer ). I don’t think I’ve seen that on any other channel. Saw a report on one EPS review that the power station shutdown for the user instead of switching to battery in a brownout condition.
Another great review.
Thanks for checking it out!
Jason, great review and summary of the specs to include pros/cons of the Delta2 Max, I purchased one today and Eco Flow (if you don't login to their site) is offering the Delta2 Max and 2 Free 110W Solar Panels for FREE for under $2100. This help when PGE invokes energy blackouts this summer. I'll pick up a Smart X battery after I receive my unit.
I was starting to think they weren't going to upgrade the Delta Max when I didn't see it at CES. Glad they did
I think unexpected things are always fun, And more innovative stuff are coming, stay tuned😉
You have the best reviews. I’ve watched a ton.
Hi, did you see the last software update. the UPS past from 30ms to 20ms...
I think It change the note in your google sheet.
I plan to test that in an upcoming video. I will update my grading sheet if so.
Could we connect the Delta Pro Smart Extra Battery to the Delta 2 Max? It sure would give you a lot of storage.
Using the 19v voc panels in a 3s configuration would not be recommended for a long term setup. Panels are rated at 70f typically and will produce more voltage as they get colder. Your 3s array would go well above 60v in colder temps.
Yeah. I thought that would be an issue so I tested them through the winter many times, they never went over 19v surprisingly. I had them in this same config on my AC500 batteries and my Delta 2 (both have 60v cuttoffs). They usually sit around 55 volts to 57 volts VOC.
If you use a 12V DC-DC 20A charger will it charge at 20A? Or do you need to go with 12-24V boost converter? Similarly, if you put the metal pin cable on 12V car, how much will it pull from car circuit?
are you going to make a review of the Jackery 2000 Pro +
I'm hoping to eventually.
Question about output of barrel plugs. I thought the max was 3 amps... so 3x12.5volts - is about 37ish watts. Did you say you were able to pull 137 watts from the barrel port?? how can this be? I can understand maybe getting that from the 12v cig socket but don't understand that wattage come from barrel port. Did I misunderstand you? thank you.
In my testing the max wattage allowed from the any of the DC ports is 137 watts. You can get that from the cigarette port or the barrel ports. The recommended max power is 3 amps but it doesn't stop there.
@@Jasonoid very interesting! thank you
Great 👍 solar generator
What do you think would be the best inexpensive off grid 12v battery to start with, drop in type v server rack for indoor install that can easily be exapnded upon and initially run 12v appliances?
You'd want a 12v LFP battery that accepts series connections so you can expand in the future to higher voltage and has low temp charging protection. This Dr. Prepare battery is an excellent value and is priced really good right now ($300 or so): ua-cam.com/video/dd1W8_tdl2c/v-deo.html
My eco 2 with smart battery runs my fullsize top loading washing machine for numerous loads , but when tried it with my electric clothes dryer it stopped ' "overload".
Will the ecoflow delta 2 max run my electric clothes dryer with added smart battery? Both are whirlpool. I'm elderly so the bigger batteries are not an option.
Thank you
Why would you think two Ecco delta 2 max units should not be connected for longer time back up. I Would rather have 2 main units versus one plus an accessory expansion battery….for better individual..separate usage…….but also I like idea of a total 4 k linked storage capacity. Thoughts on risks? Thanks
They aren't designed to be connected together like the expansion batteries. You could definitely use one main unit, once it's near empty, plug in the second unit. The first unit could start charging back up while the second one is in use.
Now, if the can reduce the fan noise on the Delta pro...
I'm sure that's the plan for the gen 2 device
I want to see the VOLTAGE under various loads with a voltage tester or kilowatt meter. If the voltage drops below 117 volts under full load, I call that a failure.
I showed that pretty well in the video.
Hello again from Spain, Jasón, tengo una pregunta porfavor, la batería adicional Delta2(1kw) es compatible, se puede usar junto con la Ecoflow Delta2 Max(2kw) ? Thanks again!
I don't think they are officially compatible between models like that.
Does it have Bluetooth yet? You mentioned Bluetooth, but I want to verify, as my Delta Max doesn't. My direct connect always times out. I use it in my overland rig with an upgraded alternator and a properly-installed 2000w inverter. But the app always times out and I have to reach down into the Ecoflow compartment to reconnect via wifi.
Just got mine today, at first it asked for wifi so I turned on my phone’s hotspot and connected it tried to update but it didn’t do so it disconnected from wifi and now I’m just using it with Bluetooth.
Looks like that have looked at Bluetti. DC output still not high.
Yeah, I would like to see a higher DC output, 20 amps at least!
Great review, the Delta 2 Max looks like a really nice piece of equipment however I've already bought the Delta 2 and extra battery, my budget won't allow more lol
So a Delta max add on battery can work on a delta 2 max unit, but what about the other way around, they will make a Delta 2 max add on battery, would this work with the Delta Max?
I think it goes either way, I don't have both to test with but Todd Parker (he's got a youtube channel with a review) tested the old Max batteries and they worked.
@@Jasonoid Will definitely check this channel out to find out, Thanks, I did see some sales of the Delta 2 Smart battery which have a Note under that says 'For the Delta 2 models only' - Im hoping this is just due to a lack of information. To me it feels like it might not work due to the different battery chemistries ,but i really hope it does.Otherwise it causes upgrade issues for many with Gen 1 products. Why would one pay the same price to get a 800cycle battery instead of a 3000cycle one. But ill check the video out,maybe he clarifies this more
I'm thinking of getting this since you can get it for $999 on Black Friday. Have you checked out the car alternator charger??
It's a great price for black friday! The alternator charger is pretty slick. I don't have a video on it yet.
Hi Jason, Did you try the UPS after the update? For me, with portable computer she seem to work well now.
Haven't done that testing yet, too busy right now. I'll do a video on it later though 👍
What power station can a diesel heater then?
Any idea if the older EcoFlow Delta Max can be used as a smart extra battery for the EcoFlow Delta 2 Max via the side extra battery port?
I have both units and would like to use them together.
I'd say the biggest factors is the difference in battery chemistry. One is lithium ion and one is LFP. You could always connect them together to see what will happen. Ecoflow told me they aren't designed to be used but it still might work.
@@Jasonoid thanks. I sent EcoFlow Support an email asking the question too. Will respond back here once I hear back from them.
@Jasonoid, ecoflow recently sent out a FW update for D2M stating that the EPS function now has a 20mS switchover, any plans to test/update?
Where was that posted? I can check to see if there's a new firmware update available.
I updated my DM2, I'll give it a test, maybe a video if it performs well.
Hi,
Does the Delta 2 Max unit has kind self heating batterie or temperature control inside for the cold time?
And do we need to make full charged/Discharged in first time?
Thanks
Dropped mine from the chair to the tile floor. What could have been done to it? fan seems louder or i just didnt notice before. ?
It might be just fine. The batteries are pretty secured inside the power station. If nothing sounds loose inside than just test it out and see how it goes!
Can you use this for an off grid power station
If your appliances use 120 volts, they will plug into the 2400 watt inverter. This will power a full sized fridge, microwaves, and other appliances. It will not power 240v appliances like electric stoves or electric dryers / heaters.
Great review from your premier power station review site. Bought the Bluetti EB55 after viewing your review a while back. Now looking at the smaller Ecoflow Delta 2. Is it compatible with the new Delta 2 Max 2 KWh extra battery?
They should be compatible, it's pretty new so I don't have all the answers yet.
Thanks, yeah common architecture so should work or require a firmware update.
How is ecoflow’s customer service? I was leaning toward the Anker 767 because of Ecoflow’s noise level. But now I’m intrigued
Anker 767 also has a 30 amp output.
Our customer service is outstanding based on our user's feedback, 🙂
The Anker has a 30 amp RV receptacle but it supports the same 20 amp output as this (2400 watts). You could always buy this adapter to get the same thing on the Delta 2 Max: amzn.to/45vJVbj
@@Jasonoid I wasn’t aware of that option-thanks!
From my experience last year when contacting ecoflow with questions on their ecoflow max it was very good. I sent them 3 emails, and got back confirmation that they received my email and I would get a response. Within 12 to 24 hours they sent me back answers to my questions, and even transferred my email to one of their techs. I called then also twice and though i didn't get through initially, I left a call back on their voicemail. Both times they got back to me within a day. I think the reason for not reaching them by email or phone initially is the time difference . I called and emailed them here in the US in the morning, and I think it was after midnight overseas. They got back to me once business hours resumed is my take.
So.... I have the original Delta Max which has 800W total solar charging using a single input, and I own four 220W panels (connected with a single 50' 10awg feeder from yard to shop) so I could max out it's charging capabilities. If I bought this unit, I would have to buy another 50' feeder to then split the solar feed to 500W each between two inputs.
Yeah, you'd want to connect two of those 220w panels in series for one input, and then the other two in series for the second input. It would require a second power line as you mentioned to get all the power back to the unit. Of course the perfect scenario would have been 150v input @ 15amps, 1000 watts but we didn't get that 😔
@@Jasonoid Wondering if using an XT60 Y Splitter to feed both DC inputs from one 800W solar feed would work. 🤔
@@fu4616 I wouldn't go over 60v total
@jasonoid in your expert opinion what do think the best portable power station for overlanding for at least a week would be? I had my mind made up about this throughout the video and for you to say that it wouldn't be the best for overlanding was disappointing. Any advise? I typically have a fridge heaters and appliances for cooking charging devices and other peoples stuff.
If you are only powering a DC fridge on the 12v sockets it will work great. If you want to power more 12v devices at the same time, that's where it won't handle the output. It all depends on what you are trying to power. The AC inverter works really well on this model so if you were using the inverter for your appliances it will work just fine.
Things that won't work:
- diesel heaters
- 12v aircompressors
- Anything DC that pulls over 140 watts
@@Jasonoid well that helps a lot. Thanks! Ill look into a power station that can power multiple 12v devices.
What does red cross symbol on Delta 2 Max display mean? Is it kind of issues?
Preproduction model.
I’m a newbie and trying to understand the solar ports on this model…is it correct that EACH port can handle up to 60voc or is it 60voc total across both ports? I understand that in series you must add each of the panel’s in the series voc rating to get the total output. Thanks in advance.
Each port is good for 60v, so you can have two solar panel setups that have 60v each, one plugged into each port.
Can this unit pass through charge the EG4 battery to full via solar while having an active load?
Can you clarify what you'd be trying to do? I just want to make sure I understand your setup.
@Jasonoid eg4 battery + ecoflow delra 2 (not the max) + 500 watts of solar input. Can the Delta 2 charge the eg4 at the same time it has a sub 500w load supplied, say 300 watt home office leaving an excess of 200w left over for charging?
@@MyChannel-vm6dw thanks for clarifying your desired setup. The EG4 will need some sort of charger attached to charge it back up. The Delta 2 can't charge it automatically with the spare 200 watts. If you had an adjustable 60v power supply plugged into the AC inverter of the Delta 2, you could set the charging speed to 200 watts and it would work well.
could you charge this delta 2 max using a battery like the powerqueen 12.8v 200Ah with 2 xt60i cables connected going to both charge ports at the same time? that would charge it at like 400 watts input id guess.
12v batteries charge the power station at 100w, so 100w per port, 200w total. You need to boost the voltage to 24v or 36v to get faster charging speeds.
can you charge via solar and AC at the same time giving priority to solar?
Check out the time stamps and go to the charging section. I tested dual charging with AC and solar and it worked just fine. The app also has settings priority for solar.
@@Jasonoid nice thanks!
Hi. Thank you for your review. Could you please clarify if it is possible to connect Delta 2 Max to Delta 2 via the corresponding charging port for an Extra Battery and vice versa? I have Delta 2 and would like to increase the capacity, however, I do not wish to buy an Extra Battery for 2kWh since it has no functionality and the price difference is also small. I am from Ukraine and the difference in price is less than $400 (about $2050 for Delta 2 Max and about $1650 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery) if you buy not from the official Ecoflow store since the price for Europe is much higher (about EUR 2100 for Delta 2 Max - it is about $2300, and EUR1500 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery - it is about $1600). For US the difference is about $350 ($1749 for Delta 2 Max and about $1399 for Delta 2 Max Extra Battery). If I pay this difference I will receive the "stand-alone" device which I can use anywhere. Also, could you please let me know, if it is possible to connect the Delta 2 Max Extra Battery ordered from US to my European Delta 2 since there is a difference in voltages: 220V vs 110V? As I understand, the Extra Battery charges the "main battery" with its "own" voltage from 48v to 60v (and vise versa), and on Black Friday, for example, I may get a good discount from Ecoflow US official store or Amazon))). In such a case Delta 2 Max Extra Battery is worth the money.
Thank you in advance.
The power stations cannot connect to eachother directly, they can only connect to their smart batteries. I'd recommend using a standalone battery to extend the runtime of your power station. I have a video about that here: ua-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/v-deo.html
I still like the Bluetti better. The build quality is better...the batteries hold more charge cycles..overall you're better off getting a Bluetti.
New firmware update today claims: "Shortened UPS time from 30 ms to less than 20 ms." plus "Optimized energy management". Can you update your Delta 2 MAX and test the PC again?
That video will be this Friday, you won't want to miss it (I'm also testing 5 other models UPS mode to see how they compare).
I have a technical question, that none of the review videos seem to address about these. I'm not interested in running a fridge or a whole house full of appliances. I simply have 1125 watts of 5V Dream color changing LEDs, about 25 strips 1 to 2 meters in length, each meter has 144 LEDs. Each 1 meter length is 45W. My question is, how long will this 1000Wh power station be able to operate them? According to my calculator 45 x 25 = 1125. By that math this new and improved power station could only operate these lights for less than an hour. Is that correct?
What's twisting my head in a knot is, that one 45W strip can be powered by a single 20,000mAh 74Wh Li-ion rechargeable power bank via a 5v 2A usb port for 1 hour and only drain about 25% of its available power. Am I missing something here? It seems as though buying 25 individual power banks will cost less and offer me far more illumination time than this power station.
Sounds like the 'rated power' is way higher than what the LED lights actually pull. Do you have a way to see the actually wattage of the LEDs as they are running? If you are plugging these LED lights into a '5v 2 amp' USB port is only rated for 10 watts, so technically you can't be pulling more than 10 watts for the entire string (especially if you aren't injecting power down the line).
If you are running the lights off a small USB power bank and getting about 4 hours of runtime, you'd probably get around 100 hours or 200 hours of runtime on a large power station like this. You could probably go with a smaller more affordable option and get great results.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for your quick reply to my comment. I hope you're correct, suggesting that I could use something smaller and more affordable. The thought of having to carry a 50+ pound power station for this purpose wasn't appealing.
I'm afraid that as far as technical understanding to determine what the light strip's draw might be is beyond me. However, I may be able to get that determination answered via some help. I'll head over to where I can seek that answer now and hope they can offer me some understanding.
@@regmiles Your 5v usb port wouldn't function on more than 10 watts of power. So those LED lights can't be drawing much power. Good luck on finding out more about your power draw. You should be fine on even a 500wh power station.
Have you test dirty ac on Delta Mini?
All of the older Deltas have noisy inverters. The first one to be cleaner is the Delta 2 Max
That's interesting. I have the 240volt version of the Max. Very quiet ac when using a hi-fi system. Just wanting to see the Mini tests compared to Max. I might just have to buy one to find out.
Hi..can you tell me please...in 1 port you can put 15 amp with 60 v .and the second same...or you have too put 15 amp with 30v one panel and the second same...I have at home delta 2 max and powerstream but both panel ecoflow 2(400w) is conected with the powerstream...and I know the delta 2 max is a now firmware...you can conected 2 panel for powerstream and 2 for Delta....I want buy another 2 but not same ..im confused how much Amp and Volt can I put in one port....
Each port on its own is good for a max of 60v and 15 amps, or 500 watts.
So 60v, 15 amps per each port separately for 1000 watts total.
Thank you very much!
I am building a overlanding Suburban, would the Delta 2 or the Delta 2 max be better. I was thinking about the Delta 2 with the Delta 2 max expansion battery to run the Wave 2.
They are both capable power stations. The Wave 2 uses quite a bit of power so the larger the battery the better. What do you plan to run off the DC output in your rig? Just a 12v fridge? Anything else?
@Jasonoid a refrigerator and charging up your usual 12 V stuff. I also have some 12 volt roasting oven and cook pots that I would like to be able to run. I am planning on living in it for 3 or 4 months at the time.
@@adamtedder700 you'll need to verify your entire load does never goes over 140 watts, that's the limit on this unit. I'm thinking those devices will go over 149 watts.
It might be better for you to look at the AC200MAX from Bluetti, it has a 30 amp DC output that can handle over 300 watts of power, so much more.
Like to see the comparison video. Question…lets just say you have no smart device. No BT or WiFi. Can you still make any of those changes to through the screen on the Delta 2 max? Love that the fans are so much quieter now. This is just out of my fixed budget so i interested in the comparison video. Keep up the good work. Thanks for all you do!
The settings are only controllable via the smart app. If you didn't have a smart phone you could always have a friend / family member use their phone to set the settings up as you like.
@@Jasonoid yes you could. I’m thinking more if like its the worst situation you can get into. No nothing!
Hi Jason,
What if I overpanel with 6*100W Renogy black lightweight place in 3 arrays serie in paralle (VOC 23.5V, VMP 19.4V, ISC 5.51A an IMP 5.2A) My 3 arrays serie was 47V@5.2A seem to be 47V@15.6A total. Does this 600W panels will cause problem or my Delta 2 max will just take he maximum at 500W? Thanks
You'd be fine connecting those panels in a 2S3P array and you'd see a limit of 500 watts when connecting them. The second option would be connecting 4 panels to one port and the other two panels to the second charging port.
I don't want to use the second port with solar. It will be connect to converter 12Vto48V@10A for 480W on the alternator.@@Jasonoid
@@renyraiche-gregoire4921 no worries, should be fine overpaneling as long as you stay under 60voc 👍
Quick question, were you able to connect both solar input ports to your EG4 battery in parallel at the same time?
Yes, I was able to charge at 1000 watts with both charge controllers connected to the EG4 battery.
Is there a problem with your test unit? I see a red error indicator on the screen.
It's to show it's a review unit. It's a permanent birthmark lol...
Hi, do you use safety devices when connecting panel to delta 2 max?
Like fuses on my solar arrays? Yes, I have inline fuses.
@@Jasonoid thank you. For the delta 2 max , would you know how many amp if I want to add surge protection device?
Really great review, like it 👍.
Can you please compare the fan noise to the normal new Delta 2, is it comparable? Many thanks.
The Delta 2 fans are definitely louder than the Delta 2 Max fans. The new Max fans are very quiet. I have videos of both being tested so if you watch both videos in two different tabs at the same time you can hear how they sound.
@@Jasonoid
Many thanks!
HI, can you plug Delta 2 into another Delta 2 to get double the power instead Delta 2 extra battery?
No, they don't support that function unfortunately. Only the Delta Pro can put out 240v.
I meant what will happen if Delta 2 connect to Delta 2? Does it combine to 2048Wh? Or impossible to work like that.@@Jasonoid
@@htran8474 You cannot connect two power stations together via the side port, only the batteries can be connected.
@@Jasonoid What do you think, get two Delta 2 is better than Delta 2 + extra battery ?
@@htran8474 the Delta 2 expansion battery doesn't have any ports on it. You can only charge it by connecting to the power station. In that case maybe it's better to have two Delta 2's. Be using one and charging the second one and then swap them out when the battery gets low with the full power station?
Do the mppt ports support 11-60V each individually or is it their total voltage?
60v each, so you can have two separate solar arrays for 60v each
@@Jasonoid
Thank you very much! You helped me a lot
How long does this run at maximum capacity?
What's the recharge time?
Thanks, dude.
Great video! Really looking forward to more info on hacking our own 'expansion' batteries. Question: With the Delta2Max's dual 60V 15A solar inputs, did it really limit each to 500W despite that it theoretically could handle 900W (60x15) and voltage is usually the limiting variable, or was that just a coincidence with your panel & sun setup?
Here's the video using expansion batteries:
ua-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/v-deo.html
Each charge controller is limited to 500 watts, even if you have it maxed out at 60v and 15 amps.
Definitely want to see a video using the 48V Server Rack battery as a DIY expansion battery. Great video!
I'll be doing a video soon on the topic
@@JasonoidDid you eventually do the video. This will really be an interesting concept😢😢
Yep ua-cam.com/video/tK4JKmfndh8/v-deo.html
Do they still have the IOT button for Wi-Fi connection?
Nope, it's not needed anymore.
I never had any luck with that way of connecting.
Btw, nice presentation/comparison on the units.
Thanks
@@chrisparker5895 the new unit just shows up the the app, it's super seempess now 😁👍 Thanks Chris!
can you dumb this down for me. I have a 120w deep freezer chest and a 110w refrigerator both drawing 1.1a. how log will this run my equipment
If the compressors ran 24/7 for both your fridge and freezer, they would last around 8 hours. Usually the compressors don't run all the time (kinda depends on ambient temps). I am guessing you'd get close to 15 to 20 hours runtime without charging.