We actually play - when you pickup a storm card and there are two blocks and a downward arrow... it's the two blocks that move south which means the storm moves north.
Not sure whether you guys corrected it later, but the direction on the storm card is the direction u push the tiles. Not the direction of the storm (hole) moves.
***** You are so right. I had to look at my manual to verify, they are doing it wrong. It's so confusing how they were moving the tiles around board. Their way of thinking is so off. You see the tile of the square and it has a right arrow moving right. It even looks like the arrow is taking the tile to the right. So, the tile goes to the right. How they came up with the idea that the storm is going that way and the tile is going the opposite direction is beyond me because they are so good at looking at the manual when playing.
chocoboblue99 I think their way is much more intuitive, honestly. It's the *storm* that's moving through the desert, after all - otherwise the tiles are getting blown around backwards.
I can't believe I watched this whole thing, though I did have it on 1.25 - 1.5 speed, but it was so fun to watch you guys learn and explore the nuances of the game, I learned a bit through watching you too. Thanks for having fun and recording and sharing it with us!
You guys should play Betrayal at House on the Hill it's a coop game,but then takes a turn for the worse when one of you is the evil bad guy pls look at tabletop version. It's a Great game 10/10
Y'all keep saying the Solar Shield protects the tile. The exact wording was "You and other pawns on *your tile* may ignore the effects of Sun Beats Down until the start of your next turn". It didn't matter for this example, but it's the tile *the person holding the solar shield* is on, not the tile they were on when it was deployed. This interpretation is confirmed in the BGG forum - apparently the designer was surprised by it too but agreed it was legit :D This only matters when the shieldholder deploys it mid-movement, though.
There's a way they could have won: On Dave's final turn, Lincoln could have given him the Time Throttle, granting him two additional actions. Dave could have moved up to the tile Aaron was on, and used the Climber ability to bring him back to the launch pad, immediately ending the game without having to flip those last five storm cards.
I think the hole under the crystal is to place a flickering LED light (from tea light).. and the space underneath the ship, after you pop off the bottom is for the CR2032 battery :) At least mine is going to be when I'm done modding it :)
DUDEEE!!! They totally could've won...! :( When Aaron used the item card that lets him check under an un-excavated tile at 1:02:06, he should've also used the Secret Water Reserve at that time since everyone was on the same tile thus giving each person 2 water. If he had done that, the last card being a Sun Beats Down was the perfect card to get, because any storm movement would've ended the game, but they would NOT have died of thirst from the Sun. It would've been such a clutch WIN on the last card!!!! Oh well... One wrong move costed them the win!
I really thought that the coop part was going to kill you guys, but it ended up fine, I didn't think that Dave or Aaron was not going to let you guys play but all is good...good job
I think the main reason it's easy to lose this game is that people assume that the 'bad' cards (Sun beats down, storm picks up) stay bad all the way through when actually as the game goes on its the sand that is the most dangerous as the majority of cards will drain your supply of it.
While I like this game there are some elements I think could be improved: - Having everyone randomly select their characters already makes the game harder, if you have 4/5 players but no water carrier the games basically over. - I'd add something like: If you end your turn on a well tile, gain one water. - 4 and 5 player games are much harder than 2 or 3 as you have more meters of water to balance throughout the game.
Yes you should, but Aaron decided to place the three oasis (without knowing which one is the dry one) in specific locations to not have them all in the same area because of randomness. I tend to do the same, because it's really hard to walk across the board when all the water supply is in the same spot.
Yeah, that's the problem with the game for me. Especially with more players, as if you have 5 it's a lot harder to balance everyone's water than with 2 or 3. I think the Well tiles could be improved, maybe if you end your turn there you get one water?
The way Aaron and Dave teach these games... one after the other... is amazing. You can tell not only that they know what they're saying but they've actually already played the games they're teaching many times. Considering the incredible number of games they have shown on the BGG channel, they are really a living cyclopedia. Unfortunately... to really grasp the challenge (not the fun but the challenge) you need a group of experienced players (true both in co-ops and in competitive games) that ALL know what they're doing. That's why the guys ALWAYS LOSE. :-))))) Let me see how this is going to turn out now (I'm just at the 5th minute and I already bet 1$ they're losing lol).
We actually play - when you pickup a storm card and there are two blocks and a downward arrow... it's the two blocks that move south which means the storm moves north.
Not sure whether you guys corrected it later, but the direction on the storm card is the direction u push the tiles. Not the direction of the storm (hole) moves.
Other than potentially confusing people from other groups, it won't make a difference.
Guess I'm just a stickler for rules
***** You are so right. I had to look at my manual to verify, they are doing it wrong. It's so confusing how they were moving the tiles around board. Their way of thinking is so off.
You see the tile of the square and it has a right arrow moving right. It even looks like the arrow is taking the tile to the right. So, the tile goes to the right.
How they came up with the idea that the storm is going that way and the tile is going the opposite direction is beyond me because they are so good at looking at the manual when playing.
Exactly. And they also forgot that you have to assemble the pieces at the end of the game when you are in the "Launch Pad"
chocoboblue99 I think their way is much more intuitive, honestly. It's the *storm* that's moving through the desert, after all - otherwise the tiles are getting blown around backwards.
This was very helpful. I like the clean, casual nature of the game play. This really helped with getting our own game started.
Is it bad that I like this one better than pandemic? The tension is excruciatingly fun and the storm mechanism is really innovative.
@@EightThreeEight its for me nearly the same as forbidden island (2010) ;)
@@faehne Desert is far better than Island IMO
What an exciting and tense ending! One of my favorite videos from you guys to watch. :-)
Even if its wrong, the storm moving in the direction shown make a lot more sense
I can't believe I watched this whole thing, though I did have it on 1.25 - 1.5 speed, but it was so fun to watch you guys learn and explore the nuances of the game, I learned a bit through watching you too. Thanks for having fun and recording and sharing it with us!
You guys should play Betrayal at House on the Hill it's a coop game,but then takes a turn for the worse when one of you is the evil bad guy pls look at tabletop version.
It's a Great game 10/10
I can't help but be reminded of the movie Flight of the Phoenix. The original one with Jimmy Stewart.
Nikki out thinking the alpha gamers...love it!
Y'all keep saying the Solar Shield protects the tile. The exact wording was "You and other pawns on *your tile* may ignore the effects of Sun Beats Down until the start of your next turn". It didn't matter for this example, but it's the tile *the person holding the solar shield* is on, not the tile they were on when it was deployed. This interpretation is confirmed in the BGG forum - apparently the designer was surprised by it too but agreed it was legit :D
This only matters when the shieldholder deploys it mid-movement, though.
There's a way they could have won: On Dave's final turn, Lincoln could have given him the Time Throttle, granting him two additional actions. Dave could have moved up to the tile Aaron was on, and used the Climber ability to bring him back to the launch pad, immediately ending the game without having to flip those last five storm cards.
Lincoln didn't have the Time Throttle. That was a leftover card (1:13:13)
I feel like the first peeky card should be used on water to give you info on which one is the mirage. And on the closest one.
LOL Lincoln Navigator
I was under the impression you moved the tiles in the direction shown, rather than the opposite.
That is true.
That's how I understand it as well, though as long as you're consistent throughout the game it's fine.
Good thing Dave is good for thinking this game through. Good game. Do Forbidden Island if you have time.
Such a fun playthrough, excellent viewing!
Awesome game! Great Coop-Experience!
I think the hole under the crystal is to place a flickering LED light (from tea light).. and the space underneath the ship, after you pop off the bottom is for the CR2032 battery :) At least mine is going to be when I'm done modding it :)
"An arrow is coming." Ha ha.
loved this introduction.
DUDEEE!!! They totally could've won...! :( When Aaron used the item card that lets him check under an un-excavated tile at 1:02:06, he should've also used the Secret Water Reserve at that time since everyone was on the same tile thus giving each person 2 water. If he had done that, the last card being a Sun Beats Down was the perfect card to get, because any storm movement would've ended the game, but they would NOT have died of thirst from the Sun.
It would've been such a clutch WIN on the last card!!!! Oh well... One wrong move costed them the win!
Well at least it's a good game. They should probably pay attention next time. They tried. Oh well, the Sun and Sandstorm wins this one for a screwups.
Very entertaining! Thanks guys :D
Thanks Guys, Yet another game I have to buy on my way home! Such a Love/Hate Relationship.
Great show! Love it!
Take a drink every time Nikki says "I'm blue"
I really thought that the coop part was going to kill you guys, but it ended up fine, I didn't think that Dave or Aaron was not going to let you guys play but all is good...good job
I love this series! :)
No no no, you are sitting in the wrong seats. This is messing with my OCD. Dave and Aaron need to switch seats!
@34:21 Goes to show you should not wait to do important stuff, soon or later (as opposed to Immediately)
This game is insanely difficult even at novice level
I think the main reason it's easy to lose this game is that people assume that the 'bad' cards (Sun beats down, storm picks up) stay bad all the way through when actually as the game goes on its the sand that is the most dangerous as the majority of cards will drain your supply of it.
While I like this game there are some elements I think could be improved:
- Having everyone randomly select their characters already makes the game harder, if you have 4/5 players but no water carrier the games basically over.
- I'd add something like: If you end your turn on a well tile, gain one water.
- 4 and 5 player games are much harder than 2 or 3 as you have more meters of water to balance throughout the game.
any chance we'd ever see something from the Pandemic series on here?
I thought you had ro shuffle the desert tiles and place them randomly at the start of the game?
You do. I don't know why they were placing some of them in specific locations.
Yes you should, but Aaron decided to place the three oasis (without knowing which one is the dry one) in specific locations to not have them all in the same area because of randomness. I tend to do the same, because it's really hard to walk across the board when all the water supply is in the same spot.
Omg that was super close!!!!
I love this game but its so flippin annoyingly hard, I always get 1 or 2 moves away from winning!
Most of Matt Leacock's games are like that. He's kinda amazing are making great, but evil, games.
I end up that way too always, so frustrating...
Yeah, that's the problem with the game for me. Especially with more players, as if you have 5 it's a lot harder to balance everyone's water than with 2 or 3. I think the Well tiles could be improved, maybe if you end your turn there you get one water?
Finally I got this too... but it drives me crazy... actually it buries me crazy after 3 turns... 😖😖
FYI Dave moved tiles opposite of the correct direction at 21:52.
1:16:22 and Lincoln says "Every card is bad!" Lol!
This might be better than Forbidden Island, which I also enjoy. I might have to pick this one up.
I still have never actually won this game.... *sigh*
The way Aaron and Dave teach these games... one after the other... is amazing. You can tell not only that they know what they're saying but they've actually already played the games they're teaching many times. Considering the incredible number of games they have shown on the BGG channel, they are really a living cyclopedia.
Unfortunately... to really grasp the challenge (not the fun but the challenge) you need a group of experienced players (true both in co-ops and in competitive games) that ALL know what they're doing. That's why the guys ALWAYS LOSE. :-)))))
Let me see how this is going to turn out now (I'm just at the 5th minute and I already bet 1$ they're losing lol).
I cannot believe that you called this.
No surprise, the water carrier has bigs jugs for that very purpose... *sorry, had to do it*
I dislike Matt Leacock games. Pandemic was great, and then he just kept making the same game, over and over. unimaginative and repetitive.