@mavenboard unfortunately it’s not possible in a 1U design. The JetKVM would end up hanging way outside of the rack unit and colliding with other equipment in the rack.
Revision idea. Add a space for a Keystone RJ45 socket at the front so that the network can be routed from the back to the front for a cleaner connection to the patch pannel
@@TheBatNaz I’ll add it to the list! That’s an easy one to add, though I’ll likely only add it to the Short versions (1 and 2 module)… I feel like it would break the spacing too much on the full-width versions.
@ yeah, it’s a great design!love a modular design! But I was thinking the Keystone rj45 mentioned above. Maybe a mount for a pi that takes up “2u”. Not sure what people need in racks tbh (my server’s in a tower… for now)
Cover the floor drain with metal window screen to prevent dropping things down the drain. Also, it keeps bugs and rodents out. Had to do this at my house because they chew PVC like butter but don't like metal screen.
optional idea for the metal-front-plate version - make it a hinge, so you could rotate it out to plug/unplug cables from the jetKVM(s) without unscrewing it from the rack.
Safety tip - @ 00:30 NEVER do that with a drill press! Placing a lateral load on the drill press will loosen the collet which is only press fit into the motor shaft. They can fall out.. Also, drill bits aren't made for lateral loads, they will flex and break sending high velocity sharp metal fragments flying. Use a milling machine for milling, not a drill press.
Just for reference, it wasn't a drill press, but a hand drill. Also, the jig I made puts no lateral load on the drill, and the bit is captive on both sides of the jig, so not much flex there either. If it ends up dulling / damaging the bit, I can replace that easier than ordering new parts, so it was a worthwhile trade-off in my opinion.
@@TheJaredC01 I'm sorry but physics are physics, it still placing a lateral load on the bit and drill that it's never designed to see. A hand drill makes this even worse! Your 3d printed jig won't stop the physics or the hot sharp angry metal eating your fleshy bits and now you're holding a hand drill with one hand and the jig in another. A hand drill collet is also only pressed in, theres literally no way to use any drill in this manner safely. Your hands are worth far more than you realize and sending sharp spinning metal into them will result in bad outcomes every single time. I've done it, I'm lucky to still have a functional hand. Safety cost way less than injuries. It's just plastic, melt it or drill multiple holes instead of using the wrong tool in a dangerous manner.
@@mattgayda2840 Physics are physics, yes. There is lateral load on the bit (and I never stated to the contrary of that), but that lateral load is backed both above and below the part with the jig, so the lateral load seen by the bit itself is minimal and spans all of 2mm of the drill bit's total depth. There is no lateral load on the drill itself since I'm not pressing against anything with the drill; it's sitting stationary. I understand that you may have an idea in your head about how the process went, but it seems to be different from the process I used. For what it's worth, I agree with you that nobody should use a drill press or hand drill with a lateral load (e.g. milling). For my case, I minimized lateral load on the bit, and eliminated it on the drill, and was willing to sacrifice the bit if necessary. The part in question is also aluminum, not plastic, so there is no melting it. Designing and printing a jig to use in the matter I did was the best of the available options, including from a safety standpoint. If you'd like to see the design I used for the jig, and you're on Discord, send me a DM! I'd be happy to clear up any confusion about it!
I too am still printing everything I print in ABS (I've only used one spool of PLA since I started printing long long ago). So my tip for ABS printing when it really matters the print geometry is right off the printer is print a test part with that specific filament and then measure the shrinkage in each direction (x-y aught to be the same rate, but z probably won't be). Once you know how that filament behaves at your print settings you can scale every model to match before you slice it. Also note bigger the better for that test print in many ways - as tiny fractions of a % shrinkage across 100mm is much easier to measure than across 5mm - though also remember ABS is more warp prone than many filaments, so the geometry of your test part to minimise either the warping...)
An extra wide rack with cavities next to the servers you could mount one of these on the actual row the server is on, sticking out. So you could add these even to a completely jam packed rack. Assuming, of course, there was that extra width over the 19 inches.
A lot of rack setups have a channel for cabling on the sides, could figure out a mount to put this on that cable channel! Could also mount the KVMs on the back behind each server, if you have the depth an rails on all four sides.
@@Level2Jeff Yeah I'd probably try to fit it on the same row some way, maybe 3D print some other custom way to mount it to the rear of a server if I somehow (not sure how) wound up with a machine without IPMI in a professional situation. At home these will just be mounted... uh.. wherever. :)
suggestion: maybe consider a bracket in the 3d-print for some cable management to enable velco-strapping and routing the cables nicely to the side of the rack? Also: maybe it needs a cut-out to enable routing of a networkcable from front to back (like in Jeff's rack)..
What I think is Open Source is good, but we need to make a living so "service charge" is acceptable, if you have other way to make a living and don't mind to contribute your work free, that's awesome.
I think we are going to put one of these down at the ham radio contest ststion for a secondary KVM solution. This 3d part is going on the printer this afternoon.
Nice! I've been using the one I have left more and more, whenever I'm debugging some hardware, I just throw the JetKVM on it because it works more reliably than VNC or Screen Sharing.
(~) 14:35 Might be nice to have a full length attachment that's just a grill for the rest of that span. It probably would fix all of that flex in the fidget part lol. And actually it would be great if you could modularize it to accept pi-blades on the other half! Or keystone holes for punch downs. Or both (with option up to the future printer)
The fully-printed, full-width model has that option! You can do up to 4 module, with as little as zero modules if you use the blank on both sides. It doesn't help the flex as much as you would think, but it is more secure than the 2-module. If there's demand for it, I can add some sort of Pi Blade mount the second half!
Jared: consider a stiffening lip folded backward, on the metal face plate? Also, the two holes don't need to be slotted - if they were simply round and well-sized to the OD of the bolts, then there would be less droop too?
There's really not any droop with the metal parts, and even with the plastic ones, they don't move if you snug the screws down (you don't even need to wrench down on them). As far as the slots go, I mainly kept them so the OCD people can align the rack ears to the rest of their rack... 😂
I’ve been playing with 3-D printing for eight years, but I am in no way in expert. However, I did find printing with ABS so much easier than PLA that most of my stuff has been with ABS and I also noticed that if I increase the model size by about one percent then the final print is dead on. ABS printing is really nowhere near as difficult as people make it out to be.
Here is a question... Is there a way to connect and program this for 4 power buttons, and then use a 4x kvm switch with keyboard switching so the we could control 4 different computers in our labs from a single jet kvm device? I can give you a specific 4x kvm switch that I have if that would help. My mini lab is 3x HP T740 and a Topton n100 NAS board for storage, my big lab is HP DL360 with iLO so mini lab is my only concern for this tool. Not sure how to get to the power button on the T740, but I can find a place to solder wires if I look, need to hack in another 2.5gbps a+e network card on the third computer, so I can take a look if they are at all interested.😅
You should know that blurring the smart watch when a notification came up is not sufficient to protect his information. Blurring is non-destructive, and can be reconstructed.
It's one of their oldest 4K models, it is okay but burning in now after about 5 years in service. I'm using an Asus ProArt at home now, and it has its own issues, but I can get 120 Hz on it which is nice! Cost about the same as when I bought my LG, $400.
@ I can never imagine ever having the requirement for such a large array of spinning disk. Personally if anything I’d prefer to have two smaller arrays that mirror each other at two physically different areas. But on the other hand if I were a creator and 45 drives came-a-knocking saying they’d like to give me a personalized device on the other hand. Still one of my favorite products and topic for videos you have created. Did a better job than Network Chuck too and he even has employees working for him.
Is it just me, or is anyone else surprised that no one has created an angled insert to keep the screen more parallel to the rack? It seems like such an obvious solution.
I always thought the design of the JetKvm case was wrong. It looked nice.... but once you have the cables plugged in the back of it, it is not likely going to stay where you put it/ want it. This design resolves that problem.
Thanks again for helping me test, Jeff!
I would like to do a few of these in 10" rack, maybe a sendcutsend for that, for my mini rack, with two or three N100 systems!
@@Level2Jeff We can make that happen!
I had no idea there were so many brilliant people in STL. You guys are awesome!
I think you should also make a version that has the screen flat not tilted since some people (like me) would like that look much better than this.
@mavenboard unfortunately it’s not possible in a 1U design. The JetKVM would end up hanging way outside of the rack unit and colliding with other equipment in the rack.
Revision idea. Add a space for a Keystone RJ45 socket at the front so that the network can be routed from the back to the front for a cleaner connection to the patch pannel
@@TheBatNaz I’ll add it to the list! That’s an easy one to add, though I’ll likely only add it to the Short versions (1 and 2 module)… I feel like it would break the spacing too much on the full-width versions.
Awesome idea
I wonder if Jared could release a 6 u version faceplate (full width) in aluminum and then just print different modules to swap in and out
@@paradigmshift7758 There's already an option for 6 JetKVM's. What kind of modules are you wanting to swap in and out?
@ yeah, it’s a great design!love a modular design!
But I was thinking the Keystone rj45 mentioned above. Maybe a mount for a pi that takes up “2u”. Not sure what people need in racks tbh (my server’s in a tower… for now)
"i am part of the Voron design engineering team"
So I'd say yeah that counts as having background in 3D printing
Just a smidge lol
I thought he said Vogon, which TBF would have been more impressive....
@@G_Fresh_UKyes, but it might have lead to a lengthy (and boring) rendition of some obscure poetry
My flu adled brain heard "Moron design engineering team" lmfao
@@G_Fresh_UK As long as there's no Poetry involved....
Coolest Level 2 video yet! Nice topic selection and interesting guest.
Cover the floor drain with metal window screen to prevent dropping things down the drain. Also, it keeps bugs and rodents out. Had to do this at my house because they chew PVC like butter but don't like metal screen.
Glad to see community support for the Jet!
No thanks I’d rather not support products from countries that genocide uighers
Don't worry about the weight... I've seen Cisco 2960 switches screwed in only at one side that had been running for years
8:30 good eye on censoring Jared's notifications on their watch :)
Heh, that editor, I tell ya, he catches everything!
@@Level2Jeff Very responsible of you, hats off.
17:42 forgot one...
@@joeltyler3427 Drat! Fire the editor! :D
Jared and the mouse in his pocket?
optional idea for the metal-front-plate version - make it a hinge, so you could rotate it out to plug/unplug cables from the jetKVM(s) without unscrewing it from the rack.
Oh dang it’s Jared!
Safety tip - @ 00:30 NEVER do that with a drill press! Placing a lateral load on the drill press will loosen the collet which is only press fit into the motor shaft. They can fall out.. Also, drill bits aren't made for lateral loads, they will flex and break sending high velocity sharp metal fragments flying. Use a milling machine for milling, not a drill press.
Easy to confuse drilling for milling!
Just for reference, it wasn't a drill press, but a hand drill. Also, the jig I made puts no lateral load on the drill, and the bit is captive on both sides of the jig, so not much flex there either. If it ends up dulling / damaging the bit, I can replace that easier than ordering new parts, so it was a worthwhile trade-off in my opinion.
@@TheJaredC01 I'm sorry but physics are physics, it still placing a lateral load on the bit and drill that it's never designed to see. A hand drill makes this even worse! Your 3d printed jig won't stop the physics or the hot sharp angry metal eating your fleshy bits and now you're holding a hand drill with one hand and the jig in another.
A hand drill collet is also only pressed in, theres literally no way to use any drill in this manner safely. Your hands are worth far more than you realize and sending sharp spinning metal into them will result in bad outcomes every single time. I've done it, I'm lucky to still have a functional hand. Safety cost way less than injuries.
It's just plastic, melt it or drill multiple holes instead of using the wrong tool in a dangerous manner.
@@mattgayda2840 Physics are physics, yes. There is lateral load on the bit (and I never stated to the contrary of that), but that lateral load is backed both above and below the part with the jig, so the lateral load seen by the bit itself is minimal and spans all of 2mm of the drill bit's total depth. There is no lateral load on the drill itself since I'm not pressing against anything with the drill; it's sitting stationary.
I understand that you may have an idea in your head about how the process went, but it seems to be different from the process I used. For what it's worth, I agree with you that nobody should use a drill press or hand drill with a lateral load (e.g. milling). For my case, I minimized lateral load on the bit, and eliminated it on the drill, and was willing to sacrifice the bit if necessary.
The part in question is also aluminum, not plastic, so there is no melting it. Designing and printing a jig to use in the matter I did was the best of the available options, including from a safety standpoint.
If you'd like to see the design I used for the jig, and you're on Discord, send me a DM! I'd be happy to clear up any confusion about it!
I too am still printing everything I print in ABS (I've only used one spool of PLA since I started printing long long ago). So my tip for ABS printing when it really matters the print geometry is right off the printer is print a test part with that specific filament and then measure the shrinkage in each direction (x-y aught to be the same rate, but z probably won't be). Once you know how that filament behaves at your print settings you can scale every model to match before you slice it. Also note bigger the better for that test print in many ways - as tiny fractions of a % shrinkage across 100mm is much easier to measure than across 5mm - though also remember ABS is more warp prone than many filaments, so the geometry of your test part to minimise either the warping...)
Oh also worth noting if it really really matters you are better off creating those features after printing the coarse geometry!
An extra wide rack with cavities next to the servers you could mount one of these on the actual row the server is on, sticking out. So you could add these even to a completely jam packed rack. Assuming, of course, there was that extra width over the 19 inches.
A lot of rack setups have a channel for cabling on the sides, could figure out a mount to put this on that cable channel!
Could also mount the KVMs on the back behind each server, if you have the depth an rails on all four sides.
@@Level2Jeff Yeah I'd probably try to fit it on the same row some way, maybe 3D print some other custom way to mount it to the rear of a server if I somehow (not sure how) wound up with a machine without IPMI in a professional situation. At home these will just be mounted... uh.. wherever. :)
What a nice lil mounting solution. Nice fella to do that! JetKVM seems a bit impractical until they make it PoE capable.
WisdPi is working on a PoE adapter made specifically for JetKVM, and hopefully they'll make a JetKVM Pro or V2 or something with PoE integrated!
suggestion: maybe consider a bracket in the 3d-print for some cable management to enable velco-strapping and routing the cables nicely to the side of the rack? Also: maybe it needs a cut-out to enable routing of a networkcable from front to back (like in Jeff's rack)..
Got mine on Friday! Installing it coming up this week some time
What I think is Open Source is good, but we need to make a living so "service charge" is acceptable, if you have other way to make a living and don't mind to contribute your work free, that's awesome.
Jeff, you should 3d print a cover so you dont have to worry about screws falling down the drain.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I have been thinking through ways of integrating these.
I think we are going to put one of these down at the ham radio contest ststion for a secondary KVM solution. This 3d part is going on the printer this afternoon.
Nice! I've been using the one I have left more and more, whenever I'm debugging some hardware, I just throw the JetKVM on it because it works more reliably than VNC or Screen Sharing.
does anyone else keep reading it as “JeffKVM”?
I wish there was a better network based KVM for racks that supported at least 8 inputs, and had VGA options
The Geerling Studio: the happiest place on earth?
I enjoyed this. He's really talented.
Need to print a replacement drain cover
Hey its Jared!
Just backed this KVM. This project is way too cool and affordable.
(~) 14:35 Might be nice to have a full length attachment that's just a grill for the rest of that span. It probably would fix all of that flex in the fidget part lol.
And actually it would be great if you could modularize it to accept pi-blades on the other half! Or keystone holes for punch downs. Or both (with option up to the future printer)
Ah, yes - have a Pi on one side, KVM on other, or something.
The fully-printed, full-width model has that option! You can do up to 4 module, with as little as zero modules if you use the blank on both sides. It doesn't help the flex as much as you would think, but it is more secure than the 2-module. If there's demand for it, I can add some sort of Pi Blade mount the second half!
This is awesome ! I need to buy one of these !
And now the bracket needs some air vents to pull in cold air from the front and guide it into one side of the JetKVM for proper cooling.
Jared: consider a stiffening lip folded backward, on the metal face plate? Also, the two holes don't need to be slotted - if they were simply round and well-sized to the OD of the bolts, then there would be less droop too?
There's really not any droop with the metal parts, and even with the plastic ones, they don't move if you snug the screws down (you don't even need to wrench down on them). As far as the slots go, I mainly kept them so the OCD people can align the rack ears to the rest of their rack... 😂
What's the plan for the mac mini's in the box? I have a couple 2014 spare.
minis not "mini's"
@@tolpacourt Technically correct., unless one or both of the minis are the owners of the box, making it the mini's box.
Wow... Sounds like Holiday Gift OVERKILL to me. 😀
2024.. the year for IPKVM
you should 3d print a new drain cover with smaller gap spacing
man those could be NICE for 10" rack *hint hint* how many would fit there? 3? with alu front and printe backs... would definetly buy that...
It's on the list! 3 is the comfortable limit. I MAY be able to squeeze 4 in, but that would be a tight squeeze.
@@TheJaredC01 just lemme know where I can buy an already made one :D
I’ve been playing with 3-D printing for eight years, but I am in no way in expert. However, I did find printing with ABS so much easier than PLA that most of my stuff has been with ABS and I also noticed that if I increase the model size by about one percent then the final print is dead on. ABS printing is really nowhere near as difficult as people make it out to be.
This guy is awesome.
Agreed. And he's already working on some cool 1U/2U mini rack designs!
“I was plugging it in the wrong port” - Jeff, 2024
Can the JetKVM plug into a standard 4/8 port kvm and then send keyboard shortcuts to swap ports?
Here is a question... Is there a way to connect and program this for 4 power buttons, and then use a 4x kvm switch with keyboard switching so the we could control 4 different computers in our labs from a single jet kvm device? I can give you a specific 4x kvm switch that I have if that would help.
My mini lab is 3x HP T740 and a Topton n100 NAS board for storage, my big lab is HP DL360 with iLO so mini lab is my only concern for this tool. Not sure how to get to the power button on the T740, but I can find a place to solder wires if I look, need to hack in another 2.5gbps a+e network card on the third computer, so I can take a look if they are at all interested.😅
Maybe have a version with just holes for bolts and nuts.
Maybe asking the JetKVM team directly about the screen flip on their Kickstarter ?
You should know that blurring the smart watch when a notification came up is not sufficient to protect his information. Blurring is non-destructive, and can be reconstructed.
Depends on the level of blurring and/or pixelation.
I wonder if the passthrough at 4k can be then captured by your other card.
I’m curious to know what model of LG screen you’re using. I want to buy the same unit for my Mac.
It's one of their oldest 4K models, it is okay but burning in now after about 5 years in service. I'm using an Asus ProArt at home now, and it has its own issues, but I can get 120 Hz on it which is nice! Cost about the same as when I bought my LG, $400.
Jeff, where in the world is your Storinator? Did you have to return it or is it at home?
Down in the bottom. I have plans for it ;)
@ I can never imagine ever having the requirement for such a large array of spinning disk. Personally if anything I’d prefer to have two smaller arrays that mirror each other at two physically different areas.
But on the other hand if I were a creator and 45 drives came-a-knocking saying they’d like to give me a personalized device on the other hand.
Still one of my favorite products and topic for videos you have created. Did a better job than Network Chuck too and he even has employees working for him.
Ha! George Washington hair
Is he going to work on one for a mini rack?
Yes!
Is the software fully open source yet? That was a hangup I had in the initial announcement.
Hex is a far better screw profile than Phillips in practically every way AFAIK...
I need that screwdriver. Where can I buy one?
I think I linked to it on Amazon in the description, that's the main result I found on Google
4:31 isn’t that referred to as “Scope Creep” from an engineering perspective? Have to know when to stop adding features and complexity!
How about something similar for the NanoKVM? :)
Would be nice, though the layout of the NanoKVM is a little harder to merge into a 1U panel, since ports are on front and back, and screen on top.
@@Level2Jeff found one on makerworld. Model 756510
@@Level2Jeff makerworld model 756510 seems to fit the bill. Hopefully this copy of the comment goes through this time. :)
@@the_beefy1986 True; but requires a lot of vertical space!
Umm can one of those Mac minis make its way up here please 💜
Jared's hands seem to shake less than Jeff's :)
Is it just me, or is anyone else surprised that no one has created an angled insert to keep the screen more parallel to the rack? It seems like such an obvious solution.
Then it probably would not fit in 1U
Hex is just better. As for plastics I tend to use almost entirely PETG.
Heh, I only like phillips because of the pervasive use... but I do enjoy hex or torx better, for almost every other reason.
I always thought the design of the JetKvm case was wrong. It looked nice.... but once you have the cables plugged in the back of it, it is not likely going to stay where you put it/ want it. This design resolves that problem.
What in the world is this thing? What is this video about?
do you have a discord? or a patreon for like a 2$ message system :D
also would like your signature on one of your red shirts. :)
VERY interesting ... thank you !