Stop your Intel CPU from Crashing and Breaking! Full Tutorial for 13th and 14th gen

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
  • Intel CPUs have started to break randomly, due to getting too much voltage and current running through them at "stock" operational loads. So much so that Intel promptly released new BIOSes for them.
    Here's how to prevent YOUR cpu from getting damaged, in 5 short minutes!
    This works for every 12th, 13th and 14th gen CPU. It's specifically needed on the i9 13900K, 13900KS, 14900K and 14900KS and ofc their KF variant like 14900KF and 13900KF, but will help you with every processor.
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  • @veo16
    @veo16 7 днів тому +1

    People still using 253/253W for short and long thinking their cpus are optimized. Back in 2022 when i built my 13900k I set the limits to 90W as anything higher pushed me into 80C and above during games.

  • @Somulo
    @Somulo Місяць тому +5

    This honorable gentleman, one of the best tech UA-camrs and overall guys who make content about pc hardware in the entire history.
    I have spoken.

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому +3

      Ahahahaha that’s too much really! I’m still a new UA-camr :) I have lots to improve

    • @Somulo
      @Somulo Місяць тому

      @@ImWateringPSUs 💪💪💪

  • @ZomgZomg007
    @ZomgZomg007 Місяць тому +1

    Could we not do most of this via Intel XTU instead? It would be the same right? Sure at boot it will be funky but once booted into Windows XTU settings will kick in.

  • @Anthony-fd8mh
    @Anthony-fd8mh Місяць тому +1

    Just an FYI MSI has finally released a New Bios addressing this for the MEG ACE Z790 MB however when I checked on 5/12/24 it was still listed as Beta Version, so hopefully soon they will release a final version soon.

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому

      Yes! I’ve seen it and it’s the same for most manufacturers: beta version at the moment. I’d rather set the PLs manually still tbh

  • @DeeAbot
    @DeeAbot Місяць тому

    Hello brother can u help me with my i7 13700k it’s overheating n apparently my motherboard is locked is there anything I can do for this only got this pc about 6 months ago

  • @whimsicalapothesis1263
    @whimsicalapothesis1263 Місяць тому

    Hey boss, sorry for the bother. I've been trying to follow everything, but I can't find any settings similar to yours. I have an MSI Tomahawk 790, and I can't find similar settings.

  • @omegajj
    @omegajj Місяць тому

    Can you tell me the power limits for 13700 no K and other BIOS settings since mine keeps crashing.

  • @adriancioroianu1704
    @adriancioroianu1704 Місяць тому +3

    This is extremely conservative and it will affect performance.
    Not so much in games because games are a piece of cake for i9's and i7's but definetly in full load tasks oe close to that you will lose 30% or even more in some cases which is very significant.

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому +2

      Yeah, just wanted to give people the abolute Intel spec. As you said it's not really gonna affect gaming, but I'd recommend people follow my Undervolting tutorials if they are after absolute performance!

  • @nc3799
    @nc3799 14 днів тому +2

    Please do this with gigabytes motherboard

  • @shabazz717
    @shabazz717 Місяць тому +5

    I was having trouble cooling my 13900k even with a 420MM aio cooler! I turned off the enhanced boost that is on by the board manufacturer and it dropped my temps by literally 10 degrees.

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому +2

      MCE or “Multicore Enhanced” or also called “Enhanced boost” is one of the WORST default settings ever made. 100% people should disable it unless they’re running under a custom loop and even there they should set some PLs or UV it if they wanna keep their CPU running for a while

    • @LoavesChrozp
      @LoavesChrozp Місяць тому

      Its kinda cold in Australia now so will keep it on for warming my room.

    • @alexalexgamingro2310
      @alexalexgamingro2310 Місяць тому

      @@ImWateringPSUs I own a MSI mobo (Z790 MSI tomahawk Wifi DDR4) and I have in bios this ''Enhanced Turbo'' Should I leave it as it is or disable it ?

  • @LoavesChrozp
    @LoavesChrozp Місяць тому +1

    Why dont you make video for top motherboards rather than just one

  • @bmanrockwell2174
    @bmanrockwell2174 Місяць тому +1

    Will this affect my 14600kf? Right now, it seems to be fine. When I first got it was running really hot on the Bios the motherboard came with out of the box. As soon as I updated the bios the heat went down quite a bit. This was before the whole intel 13 and 14 gen stuff started coming out in the media.

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому +1

      If you've seen a dramatic temperature reduction after a bios update, chances are that it was already fixed in your motherboard. So you're probably fine. But I'd definitely update the BIOS again once Intel releases their official fix. Or if you want absolute peace of mind, set the PL as shown in this video!

    • @bmanrockwell2174
      @bmanrockwell2174 Місяць тому

      @@ImWateringPSUs Thanks, this is what I was hoping to understand better. 👍

  • @norix5491
    @norix5491 День тому

    Where to find it on Msi bios ?? Pls I need help

  • @damoebius
    @damoebius Місяць тому

    could your first tutorial with pl1 and pl2 =253w hurt the cpu in the long run? i m currently running the first tutorial settings and my system is very stable and not overheating. not really wanting to change anything...

    • @adriancioroianu1704
      @adriancioroianu1704 Місяць тому +3

      No, what is going to damage your cpu longevity is the voltage under which the cpu is operating if its too high, unless you did not disable the 100C thermal limit. But this is based on principle and past experience, nobody knows for sure if an operating load voltage of 1.6V for example is bad for these cpu's or not, but the common sense tells us it is. You can have power limits completely unlimited as long as you have enough of a cooling solution, power limits shouldn't matter much. But just in case i would set up PL2 at around 250W if you have a good enough cooling solution (a 360AIO for example should be sufficient). And PL1, your choice, but not too low otherwise you will drastically reduce performance especially in full load tasks.
      Anyway keep in mind that the profile the video author is presenting here is extremely conservative and IT WILL reduce your performance. Not so much in games tho, since games are a piece of cake for an i9 and performance in games is more proportional to frequency than anything else, mostly 6-8 cores, not all of them together.

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому +2

      What adriano said is correct. If you have followed my previous "Undervolting" tutorial though, you're good to go and WILL get higher performance without damaging the CPU, since we reduced the voltage there (which is what damages the CPU). So you would be perfectly fine with a 253W PL if you followed any of my previous guides!

  • @nc3799
    @nc3799 Місяць тому

    Please make video with gigabyte motherboard

  • @geogenocide
    @geogenocide Місяць тому +3

    Can you do this tutorial on your 14900k on the MSI z790 pro mobo?

    • @ml-wl4xl
      @ml-wl4xl Місяць тому +1

      Need this as well

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому

      The settings would be the abolute same! Just a little bit of a naming difference, you can cross reference it with the other tutorials I've made on MSI motherboards here on the channel if you want to be extra sure

    • @LoavesChrozp
      @LoavesChrozp Місяць тому +2

      ​@ImWateringPSUs you don't understand how hard it is for people who is not tech capable. It's easier to follow whatsa on screen than to much about. Bios is not something you want to trial and error. The mistakes can be very bad.

    • @ml-wl4xl
      @ml-wl4xl Місяць тому

      @@LoavesChrozp this.

    • @LoavesChrozp
      @LoavesChrozp Місяць тому

      @@ml-wl4xl can't see anything but the word this

  • @johnballesta2544
    @johnballesta2544 Місяць тому +1

    Your bios has PL1 and PL2 increments in milli watts, fyi

  • @domiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
    @domiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Місяць тому

    Is the issue only in the K variant
    I have i7 14 kf and msi z790 idk if i have to change the settings

    • @WCxColosus
      @WCxColosus 25 днів тому

      Ive been having issues with mine i just updated the bios and it was a lil better but still randomly crashing. The bios update adjusted some voltage settings but still crashed. I just changed the cpu load lite to Intel default so hopefully thats fixes it. If not i might have to under volt.

    • @domiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
      @domiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 25 днів тому

      @@WCxColosus right now mine works fine but if it crashes do I have to under volt too or whatever you said before that

    • @WCxColosus
      @WCxColosus 16 днів тому

      I ended up upgrading the board from an MSI gaming to a Asus Z790 hero and i have not had any issues since. Also what windows are you on?

    • @domiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
      @domiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 15 днів тому

      @@WCxColosus im on windows 10

  • @erdruido
    @erdruido Місяць тому +3

    if you going to use these power limits u're going to kill performance a lot , but if you have a bad cooler it's recommended

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому +1

      Well it’s actually not gonna affect much if at all gaming scenarios. We’re still keeping the single core boost. But yeah I’d recommend to also undervolt the CPU so you can keep the maximum performance, but this is just a video about the recent problems, a lot of people have had their CPUs break!

  • @Simmymind360
    @Simmymind360 Місяць тому

    Ok.this is only for Gigabyte motherboard not Asus, MSI ect..I have a i913900k using a Asus board.. Standard Spec is 307A P1 125 /P2 253.Svid behavior Auto..ok now for Extreme 400A p1 253 P2 253 most other settings Auto

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому

      This is for every motherboard! The one I used in the video was a Biostar and needed this. If you're running the latest Beta bios for Asus, they released the fix already tho

    • @Simmymind360
      @Simmymind360 Місяць тому

      @@ImWateringPSUs Ok, however I tried Baseline setup with Asus and didn't like the stability of that and I just went with standard and extreme setup...

    • @Simmymind360
      @Simmymind360 Місяць тому

      @@ImWateringPSUs ua-cam.com/video/tcjkNSySzsg/v-deo.htmlsi=pqOmbWU6ZmI3a0BA

  • @anjelomichelangelo7726
    @anjelomichelangelo7726 Місяць тому

    it is not intel specs, set it to intell specs
    pl1 125w
    pl2 253w
    core current limit 107a

    • @erdruido
      @erdruido Місяць тому

      current 307 amps

    • @anjelomichelangelo7726
      @anjelomichelangelo7726 Місяць тому

      @@erdruido yea right. for my 13900k i set it higher, 340amps for more performance.

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому

      What you’re listing is still better than the default of most motherboards, and yup the more the current limit the more performance, but in the new beta bioses they’re using PL1 125 and PL2 188 /w Current Limit of up to 249A, which in my testing is really not losing you any in-game performance at all

    • @anjelomichelangelo7726
      @anjelomichelangelo7726 Місяць тому

      @@ImWateringPSUs i use intel official recommended specs as a guideline and find balance between their standard and extreme profiles for my i9 13900k. intel recommends
      pl1 253w
      pl2 253w
      400amp
      as their "extreme config", but for me 400amp is too much and my cpu is unstable in after effects render, so i find 340amp most stable and still powerful in my case

  • @xwiair3426
    @xwiair3426 Місяць тому +1

    Wait wait this is official specs no way that's way too low pl1 should be 253W and pl2 should also be 253W for Performance settings with 307Amps or 400Amps for extreme settings but at 125 and 188 Watts those i9's are useless my 10900K overclocked to 5.2 GHz almost Performs as good at those low settings how is that even there recommended specs something is not right here Intel is crazy!!!!!

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому +1

      Crazy but yes, these are the new recommended specs as a way to try and save the CPU. 100% I still recommend undervolting as I show on the channel instead, to retain full performance

    • @xwiair3426
      @xwiair3426 Місяць тому

      @@ImWateringPSUstotaly agree bro do you hace a recommended voltage for 14900KS locked at 5.9 ghz for P Cores and 4.6 ghz for E cores should I lock the VL at 1.35 ?

  • @xbone8950
    @xbone8950 22 дні тому

    will this work for i7-14700k?

    • @Ben-hf9ng
      @Ben-hf9ng 9 днів тому

      "This works for every 12th, 13th and 14th gen CPU"

  • @BSD2000
    @BSD2000 14 днів тому

    It's funny how we all bought 13th and 14th gen Core i9's with the idea that they are better than AMD and better than the Core i7's only to find out from Intel that the only way to stabilize their performance is by neutering them down to Core i7 levels with BIOS settings that cripple them. My 13900K now performs about the same as a 13700K with the recommended BIOS settings from Intel. Thanks for nothing Intel! Looks like I'll be switching to AMD soon.

  • @cosmicusstardust3300
    @cosmicusstardust3300 Місяць тому

    intel been cheating with auto overclocking for long enough now its catching up with them lol

  • @mailsibul
    @mailsibul Місяць тому +14

    Just buy AMD 😙

    • @ImWateringPSUs
      @ImWateringPSUs  Місяць тому +10

      AMD is not fully free of issues either, and I say it as somebody who in recent years has preferred Ryzen 7000 over Intel for his personal build. No matter the hardware you buy, if you spend some time tweaking it it’s gonna be worth it!

    • @Alonne1
      @Alonne1 Місяць тому +4

      Just go for the i7, is the i9 that have the issue

    • @adriancioroianu1704
      @adriancioroianu1704 Місяць тому

      ​@@Alonne1The better advice is to stop buying "k" variants if you are a complete noob when it comes to BIOS settings. Yes, you can blame it on Intel and MoBo manifacturers for "breaking" the conservative consensus around "stock" settings. But lets be real, if you don't even know how to enter BIOS, not to mention playing with voltages, current limits or frequencies, and you're also not willing to pay some hardware-savy guy to optimize you cpu for you, then why are you buying the "k" SKU in the first place? That's what i would ask in the first place. Of course marketing is lying, that's the whole point of marketing for the naives out there.
      Just go non "k", problem solved easily for the vast majority of users.

    • @Kenny17674
      @Kenny17674 Місяць тому +2

      Hard pass on amdip...

    • @cappuccino-1721
      @cappuccino-1721 20 днів тому

      @@adriancioroianu1704some of the K variants are actually cheaper now. So even even for an noob, it does not make sense to spend more money on something that is slower.