NASA Says Something Weird Is Happening With Boeing's Starliner, Stay in Space Forever!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Boeing's Starliner capsule, on its first crewed mission, has been orbiting for over a month without a set return date. Launched on June 5 as part of the Crew Flight Test (CFT), the capsule transported NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams to the International Space Station (ISS) for a mission initially intended to last a week. However, the capsule encountered helium leaks and thruster issues during its journey, prompting engineers to investigate these problems, delaying Starliner's departure clearance.
Steve Stich, manager of NASA's Commercial Crew Program, emphasized the careful and thorough analysis being conducted before deciding on a return opportunity. During a press conference on July 10, he explained that the team is meticulously examining the data collected to ensure a safe return. Despite these challenges, confidence in Starliner remains strong among NASA, Boeing, and the CFT astronauts. At a separate media event, Wilmore praised the capsule's performance during operational checks, noting its impressive capabilities in orbit. He discussed the reaction control system (RCS) thruster issues encountered while approaching the ISS and how they managed the situation.
Wilmore described how they lost an RCS jet, followed by another, which degraded the control capabilities of the spacecraft. Fortunately, they were trained and certified for manual control, which they used for over an hour to compensate for the thruster problems. After docking at the ISS on June 6, Wilmore and Williams joined the Expedition 71 crew, which they humorously refer to as "Expedition 71+." They have been participating in daily maintenance tasks, science experiments, and addressing a backlog of station duties. Throughout their mission, they have also been conducting thorough checkouts of Starliner’s systems and anomalies, which are under scrutiny by Boeing engineers on Earth to determine the causes.
Stich highlighted the advantage of the ISS acting as an orbital "hangar," allowing for a unique opportunity to understand Starliner's long-term performance in space before undocking. The thruster issues, along with several helium leaks, are being addressed methodically. Mark Nappi, Boeing’s vice president and Commercial Crew Program manager, reported that over 30 specific actions were identified to resolve the anomalies, with more than half already completed. Stich added that they aim to finalize the resolution of the helium leak soon.
Despite these issues, the spacecraft is deemed safe to return in an emergency, with all but one of its 28 RCS thrusters cleared for reentry to Earth's atmosphere. The mission extension has provided valuable additional data, which the engineering teams find incredibly beneficial. Nappi noted the excitement among engineers as they gather more data, which aids in improving future missions.
The latest possible return date for Starliner, according to Stich, would be mid-August, coinciding with the handover between SpaceX’s Crew-8 and Crew-9 missions. Ideally, Wilmore and Williams will return earlier, with optimistic projections suggesting a possible end-of-July departure. Stich stressed the importance of following the data to determine the safest and earliest undock opportunity. Confidence in the thrusters' current performance remains high, bolstered by an on-orbit thruster test fire conducted while docked at the ISS.
#starshiplaunch #starship #ift4
Why is it that SpaceX is under extreme scrutiny (and rightfully so) for an anomaly, and yet Boeing never achieved a trouble free mission and were given the go ahead for a manned launch and now they have a problem?
You can tell who greases the squeaky wheels with contributions.
Corruption. But, don't worry. Those regulations made SpaceX more safe and advanced today
one of them is a big military contractor, the other is spacex
PROBLE. It's a disaster.
What a money pit Boeing has become.
Especially NASA, un successful in man flight for 20 years. Fire Boeing.
Space X is 80% cheaper and very successful.
We're being fleeced people.
@@abradabk you think spacex doesnt contract military
That Starliner is having all these problems in the first place says it all. Cancel it and fire Stitch.
Aerojet Rocketdyne manufacturers the thrusters, they've been doing RCS thrusters since before the Apollo days. They are pushing the design for more precision and have run into this challenge. So cancelling and firing people seems to be the wrong direction. Perhaps they should stay on orbit as long as possible and study the challenges that did not appear in ground testing.
If the Starliner is so highly praised then why hasn't it returned?
I chose to be a quality assurance specialist in the Nationwide nuclear program instead of going to work for NASA/Boeing/Northrop🪖 looks like I made the right choice... What a total bunch of pretenders collecting a paycheck...just like TVA... Legal extortion of the American taxpayer still in action all these years
Congress want 2 sources of launch craft for the ISS, why not just use SaceX, who build 3 human and 3 cargo drones, all worked great the first time, so I have no ideal why they even put humans on this last starliner launch.
@@johnmcque4813politics
It’s so bad we don’t want it back?
This is an intentional sabotage in space by terrorists in other countries inside of governmental entities including Boeing
It seems NASA has forgotten the hard lessons learned after the loss of the shuttle Challenger in 1986. The have gone back to the "Must Launch" attitude despite warnings from engineers and visible problems with hardware. There was a time when any launch would be scrubbed for the type of problems that Starliner exhibited on the pad.
There is also the mindset that they have to protect the "investment" they made in the Boeing contract. Boeing can't be allowed to fail. Too much money has been spent on the project.
You are right. I expect non-engineering management to over-ride critical engineering decisions, as per the NASA/Boeing hand book of expediency.
One may recall that the loss of Columbia was just a 100% organizational repeat of the loss of Challenger.
Currently reading Sidney Dekker's "Drift into Failure" which tries to illustrate how complex socio-technological systems can and will throw out "sudden an unexpected" failures even though everyone inside the system has green lights across the board and every document is in triplicate, signed off and waivers have all been agreed on in the latest engineering meeting. Such is life in the zone.
Imagine having peoples come to your home to stay a week and one month later are still there saying there's no urgency to leave.
hopefully they have enough clean underwear LOL
@@chikes4862RF seem to have plenty of washingmachines ( and even shovels ), so what's the problem?! (😋)🎉
been there done that
@@chikes4862 Actually they are already stretching their supply of garments, food, water, air and hygiene supplies to a point that a SpaceX resupply mission time table has to be bumped up and the Russian supply ship may never come.. If you look at images from inside the station you might notice all the cargo bags that are full of waste and unrecycled pee and dehumidifier captured moisture.. The broken recycler and NASA's foot dragging on supply runs is turning the ISS into Uncle Charlies packrat trailer in the woods..
They do this during food, water, and power rationing.
Doors falling off of 737s have given us a great opportunity to understand how doors should work. Too connected to fail. Amazing.
Lol. And imagine the plane having to stay in the air until the problem is fully understood.
The helium leaks and thruster issues may just be the tip of the iceberg.
I think they're hiding something, too.
I believe there is a lot NASA is not saying.
SpaceX can not be told to freeze F9, why? Because the record of 370+ safe and exact launches speaks for itself. It sprung an OX leak is all.
I would ride in a falcon 9 right now. No question's asked. I have faith in SpaceX
Its a mission to change a asteroid orbit crashing onto it, would you go? Well you alreafy got in lol
@@paranaenselol Calhoun, are you still working at Boeing or did you actually quit finally?
@paranaenselol asteroid crash what a bash. If I went, I'd be the splash.
My Dad always said one day I'd be a comet mover.
The guy approving it for flight should have to take the first ride in it.
Along with the CEO Calhoun.
😂 Punitive engineering?
I would fly on Crewdragon.
Not a worry. Redundancy, which Boeing and ULA do not invest in.
Indeed
Thats what happens when accountants run an engineering firm!
No this is what happen when a company like Israeli owned Blackrock buys the control over your business and puts profits before people. its when they took over planes started falling out of the sky cause they put all their money in more profitable weapons of war instead of quality control and safety of people.
Firing engineers to keep accountants and marketing people .
It was brilliant moves for the management's pocket.
Keeping Starliner at the ISS for testing is just an excuse. It's not like someone can go out and kick the tires. Every test is still remote.
Boeing is full of promise but seem seldom deliveries company, and suck money from us government like black hole , why us political love used it ?????
Except for the microgravity, vacuum, extreme temperature shifts and the test runs on orbit.
Why Do I Get the Feeling that if these 2 Astronauts Attempt to Return to Earth using the Starliner, it WILL NOT END WELL FOR THEM BOEING AND NASA!!
I really hope they don't pay with lives for that confidence in starstrander 😕
Starstrander. lol. Pocket-liner is another one.
😂star strander
Shuttle covered in ice? Go for launch! Wing damaged by foam strike? Go for re entry! Starliner malfunctions? Just an opportunity to study! No worries! 17 de ad
What if no one was on the shuttle when it failed, there is strong evidence that the crew was not on board seeing you can fined alive that a UA-cam has shown. But why you may ask? The company's involved where about to start losing profits. The fact they blamed the o ring to be the falt is a big problem. It did fale but only because the part the o ring fits into was red tags not to lunch below a certain temp. I know this because I know the man that had to remill the part after the guy that had just finished it just after lunch that may have had a beer or two was taking off the mill had the part fall out of the straps! The part suffered only a scratch that my friend milled off, you can find that there was o ring failures that did not result in catastrophic failure and each one was the same part.t the funny thing my friend is working for Boeing on the....you guessed it Starliner, He gave me a cut off piece made of carbon fiber that came off the docking part you see when it is docking .
I firmly believe the crew will make it back alive on the starliner.
@@mr5oa1Wouldn't be betting my life on that. I'm staying a groundling.
Who negotiated those contracts with Boeing? SLS is already outdated, by the time it eventually flies on the Artemis test flight, Falcon Heavy will be well established and, to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Starship got there first!
This ongoing farce with Scamliner is no longer funny. That flying dustbin is clearly not safe. (They'd have brought it home already if it was) Now they've given a feasibility study to SpaceX, they'll hopefully be able to get the crew home safely!
Corruption
That thing still reminds me of Columbia!
The stand solution has being blame the pilots for every Boeing accident
This being the first maned test flight, I have not seen this blame you state! The blame is the India contractor that used aluminum on the valves instead of titanium.
Pilot Error is a standard joke. I was a USAF jet mech on SR-71s. Blaming the pilots so as not to upset the $$$$$ military contractors is SOP.
Blame everything and anything..... Except envelopes full of cash.....
It's so heartbreaking to see this once mighty world renowned American corporation fall so much. Sadly they prioritized profits and poor hiring practices over quality and safety.
“Agency.” It parallels the fall of our country and its government.
Diversity matters
@@SafeAndEffectiveTheySaidlol
They need to allow the Engineers to run the company again. If they don’t soon they are done.
I don't think that company has the capability to learn anything from past mistakes. They'll just double down.
They keep lying to us
Well, its time to short Boeing....your 'positive' statement is dubious..
Let's hear for Boeing and DEI they work perfectly together
Safe return. Make it without people. Starliner ids too risky to do anything else.
Right. Or is Boeing concerned their automatic systems aren’t trust worthy?
Well, as they had to use manual control for over an hour on the way up, I reckon you've a good point!
@@eugenecbell They had better be!
Certified for emergency use. Reminds me of the line from Jurassic Park " Oh, yeah. Oooh, ahhh, that's how it always starts. Then later there's running and screaming "
This thing had a leak before blasting off, and they didn't address it before the launch. Man, that is scary as hell that they would actually do that.
The 2nd stage had the anomaly not the falcon
The second stage is part of the falcon😅
"Falcon 9" refers to both the first and second stages.
Yes, but as a required piece, it is appropriate to ground the Falcon 2nd stages. That said, paperwork has been submitted to the FAA for return to flight.
Falcon 9 is the launch vehicle. It includes the second stage.
The second stage is part of the Falcon 9, and viewed as a single entity
Let SpaceX rescue the crew and remote control the capsule back to earth to see what happens.
Boeing either:
Doesn’t know what’s wrong and are just running the clock hoping for someone to figure it out.
Or know what’s wrong and determined it’s fatal for reentry.
All you said in this video is just spin.
They ought to bring it back unmanned, if possible, for the safety of Butch and Sunni.
As it had to be docked on manual control I suspect that unmanned return is not an option
DEI UNQUALIFIED HIRING IS BRINGING MANY BUSINESSES DOWN. GO WOKE GO BROKE 🤬
The reality is that NASA is embarrassed for investing millions of dollars on Boeing space projects. If I was an astronaut, I wouldn’t get in the starliner, SpaceX come get me
Try Billions of dollars!! Crew Dragon cost half as much and was completed on time. Star liner is years late and way over budget!
Sounds like spin to me. It's not a failure, it's a feature
Boeing is finished. They can't keep doors closed on airplanes, but sure, let them send people to space.
WHERE WAS THE FAA WHEN BOEING WAS LAUNCHED????
Well when you have 2 government organizations, they don't hold each other accountable. It's called bureaucracy! FAA won't bother NASA because they are all the same!
Starlink 9-4 will launched on Monday July 22 at 2:44 am EDT. Pending premission on public safty by FAA.
didn't the FAA also approve the launch of starliner scrap????
from the moment starship starts working, all the other rockets become redundant. starship brings the cargo from all other launches into LO at once
I hope it goes off. But ASOG and Bob returned to port. It is when the FAA approves.
Actually, it looks like it is delayed. I am guessing, because group 9 is at a higher orbit, they are going to start back with Group 7. As of right now, USSF Vandenberg launch schedule sites show NET 7/30. Was looking forward to it, tonight (can see it from my driveway, though really small) but no joy.
No launch today
With Boeings track record, it could be years before Starliner returns to earth. 🤔
“If it’s a Boeing, I ain’t going” Astronaut spokesman
Boeing’s three hour tour trip!!!!
Ive got a niche for SLS, junkyard 🤔
If helium pressurized the fuel and the helium was leaking, was the fuel leaking also? Another Falcon 9 upper stage scenario? Frozen bomb?
Everyone is talking about how to bring back the two crew on the Starliner. What about the other crew members who are still in the ISS?
They come and go on scheduled RELIABLE spacecraft.
why are they calling it an emergency return ? Shouldn't it be a planned return ?
What if it was a macro meteorite that pinged the engine, no way to know or fix
This may have been asked or discussed, but why doesn’t the Starliner come back without the crew and the crew can go home on the next dragon mission? I realize that would be bad publicity for Boeing but seems like the safest option.
Unique opportunity, thorough investigation……………….
Don’t fly an aircraft or a spacecraft when the engineers won’t go with you. This is what happens when you engineer something that’s far more sophisticated than it needs to be!!
I hope they have enough food and supplies to last them. My anxiety would be so high just thinking about what we're dealing with.
Two test flights of the Starliner with one failed before a crew test is not overwhelming. Who gave the license?
Need to change the name of Starliner to Ruptured Duck.
Boeing to NASA:
“Wait a second, you wanted us to FLY IT BACK?”
What is worse, being in jail on Earth or being stranded space?
Well the view is better in space and you can go out side. So I’ll take space
They are not stranded, thay have two other options available. avaliable
I wonder if NASA will treat Boeing the same. After all, they allowed a human mission with a spacecraft that had known problems.
Americans believe that a good spin and high praises based on fiction of their imaginations will make this vessel work.
Follow the data…The data says ditch it in space…
BOEING "We can get you up there" "We will try to get you down.....maybe"
SpaceX to the rescue!!!
The extended mission is providing valuable ..zzzz
Shouldn’t try to do space missions without the knowing or help from Space X or NASA
Boeing fired/laid off all of the old heads and now have mostly young engineers at the helm. Seeing the consequences of it now.
I love how optimistic this video is, great job guys, i do hope the test pilots return safely, but this capsule is clearly years away from being safe. It should never have been cleared to carry people after the first two failed attempts. What a disaster Boeing needs to look at full redesign taking dragon into consideration.
How are the supplies doing on the ISS now that they have extra people aboard?
Hopefully they didn’t use “DAWN DISH SOAP AND CHEESE CLOTH” on the star liner like they did with that 737 door that flew off while in mid flight
"an optimistic projections suggesting a possible end of Fuly departure..." Sure hope Wilmore and Williams have a say in that decision. Starliner presents a risk factor many times that of the SpaceX Cew Dragon capsule. IMO
As my dad taught me "Its not that you have problems that matters but what you do about them."
I believe they are stuck stranded with no return date because the risk of them returning in that compromised capsule will be fatal - they need to send a rescue craft.
Be nice to get it back to see if it bring some answers.
NASA and Boeing employees should have no problem finding work
Why is NASA testing "every details" to prevent unintended consequences AFTER the Boeing hardware failure instead of before?
If astronauts perish on way back is this less damaging to Boeing, than losing face and having to bring back SLS unmanned, demonstrating its safety without risk
Return opportunity 😂 sounds like they never thought they would get it back.
Please tell me they all use a standardized docking system.🙏🏻
Nothing gets above the firmament!
Even if they get back it will take a year or two before they're ready to try a crewed flight again.
"Allowing a unique opportunity to understand Starliner's long-term performance in space ..."
I guess stranding two astronauts in space is now considered a feature.
They're extending the stay so they can do tests on the junk capsule and learn more. They didn't do that to dragon! Oh that's right, dragon didn't have a thruster problem and leak helium all over before the launch and in space! Too risky, go get them dragon!!
These issues were known before the launch!
Congress has repeatedly showed it’s support.
Now, that’s a real shocker.
Sounds harsh, but undocking and returning 1 of the crew in Starliner would save 1 astronaut by definition?
At least bolts having fallen out yet!
If it is beneficial to test spacecrafts when they are in space, then NASA should carry out future tests on spacecrafts after launch, not on Earth.
Boeing, our ships might not kill you but we never
Miss a whistleblower…
NASA is sounding more and more like Bagdad Bob with their support of Starliner
"Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin" -Suni Williams on returning to Earth aboard the Boeing Starliner
Successful launching of the first Dead ship liner into space. Soon the space will be haunted.
Hope we don't have another Oceangate on the horizon
I Doubt the CFT crew are being honest when they say they are confident about starliner.
Does understanding the issues with the thruster mean doing the work and necessary QC tasks that should have been carried out before placing a crew inside.
The spin doctors in NASA and Boeing can try all they can but they'll never convince me enough testing and QC on Starliner before it ever launched and that any safe return from the ISS is possible.
To be honest I think Boeing and to some extent NASA are hoping that there is an ISS emergency that results in having to use starliner to return and if anything goes wrong they can say it was not their fault......
Lately Boeing couldn’t pour water out of a boot if the instructions were on the bottom of the heel.
Hopefully someone checked to make sure the hatch won't fall off.
Notwithstanding technical and operational issues, there's no justification for the uncertainty for lives of astronauts including the impact of this delay and associated drama. As this is a human flight certification, it is a spectacular failure.
All is fine, just stay on the space station, is what ultimately is being said. Booing is trying to save face
That’s funny, I’m hearing the opposite, NASA has lost ALL faith in Boeing, is ending their contract and going with SpaceX
I've had fewer problems flying rockets in KSP!
Do they really think this incompetent vehicle is getting more competent as it ages on the SS dock?
Ground Control to Major Tom.
But Booing is great at bringing passengers down.
T-1 year to launch Artemis II mission.
Is the Boeing Starliner built with the 737Max wrecks?
It is indeed very sad to see another great American company choose profit over integrity and moral scruples. General Motors comes to mind as well. Let's hope our entire nation does not follow in this tragic trend.
Imagine how much more data could be collected if they crashed the Starliner into the desert!!!! The engineer would be over the moon (no pun intended) with the learning opportunities.