How SpaceX Could Win The Space Race | CNBC Marathon
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
- CNBC Marathon explores SpaceX's quest to win the space race.
SpaceX’s broadband satellite internet, Starlink, is expected to be a cash cow for SpaceX, bringing in as much as $30 billion a year - more than 10 times the annual revenue of its existing rocket business. This revenue will be used to fuel Starlink's CEO, Elon Musk’s ultimate goal of building a colony on Mars. Eventually, Starlink may even keep us connected on the Red Planet.
To get real-life first impressions of the service, CNBC spoke to more than 50 people who have been using Starlink. Those surveyed included households in Canada and 13 U.S. states: California, Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Ohio, Oregon, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
Starship is SpaceX’s largest reusable rocket. It can carry more than 100 metric tons of cargo and crew per launch. Musk, says Starship represents the “holy grail” for space travel, but the giant rocket vehicle also is crucial for SpaceX’s future. Some experts have estimated that if SpaceX succeeds with Starship alongside Starlink, the space firm’s valuation could skyrocket into the trillions of dollars. But before SpaceX can get Starship into orbit, the company faces a number of technical and regulatory challenges.
The rocket business is heating up and one startup has grand ambitions of following SpaceX to orbit. With a team comprised of industry veterans, Firefly Aerospace wants to be a dominant launch provider in the growing small satellite market. While the rewards are great, the risk are high. The company already suffered through a bankruptcy and is still trying to reach orbit.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:39 Why Starlink is crucial to SpaceX’s success (Published April 2021)
19:46 Why Starship is the holy grail for SpaceX (Published March 2022)
34:33 How ex-SpaceX engineers are fueling the space race with Firefly (Published November 2021)
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How SpaceX Could Win The Space Race | CNBC Marathon
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“How Apple can finally win in the smartphone race.”
Apple already lost to samsung and xiaomi sales worldwide. see stats.
@@mayanksoni9046 Apple owns 70% of the industry profits…selling lots of junk at little profit margins isn’t the name of the game.
@@guslevy3506 I think all american products are overpriced junk . While chinese phones are high end tech as well as right priced perhaps undervalued.
@@guslevy3506 thats like saying ferri one the auto because companies like honda make more cheaper cars
@@mayanksoni9046 Marketshare is not important when profit share for Apple is 75%. That is, Apple captures about 70% of all smartphones revenue, globally.
Title needs to be changed to "SpaceX won the space race"
technically speaking the space the race to space has been over for 50 years but the space race for who dominates space won't be over for a long time ago if we are talking about who can get there cheaper then India at $5m is the winner
@@jonnym4670 no one considers india the winner, not even on cost.
@@flycrack7686 if your going to be putting up thousands of them cost is very much comes into now India hasn't won the space race but the idea that the space race is over is crazy
@@jonnym4670 your cost estimations are just not there. But i agree the space race is just starting.
@@runethorsen8423 you put quotes around space
you don't think space is real?
Just did a Starlink Test and got 261Mbps down and 13Mbps up with 33ms latency from Auckland, New Zealand. Perfectly useable for Internet access. Highly recommended for rural areas for sure.
Until more people get on then that will go into the toilet
@@jebes909090 Wrong. The constellation will have over 42,000 sats, which is 40x more than present, and Starlink2 sats are 100x the thoroughput of gen 1 sats.
@@babyUFO. theres only so much data available. Once people hog it, it'll slow right down.
@@jebes909090 Were you paying attention to how Starlink works?? If so you would know what you’ve said is wrong. There are already close to a million users.
@@michaelwebsternz if it cant handle a million users then theres no point in evem trying. Im talking in the 10+ million range. Its the whole world after all.
So nice to see that a legacy news source still allows comments and opinions not their own. Thumbs up CNBC
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It's a bit disengenius to talk about SpaceX having 'technical problems' in the development of Starship. The development of a revolutionary new spacecraft like Starship can best be described as a cluster of hurdles and technical problems that have to be overcome and solved one by one. It's not as if SpaceX expected the first prototypes to just take off, go to Mars and land perfectly. And there's still many test rockets to go before SpaceX has a fully working Starship. But that's simply the nature of developing new technology.
You're right 100%
Starship has not been built yet .... probably still on drawing board ... not to waste time, why don't you just copy the design of Space Shuttle, designed and manufactured by Rockwell in the late 1970s, 1980s .... looong before a lot of us were even born ? 😂
@@thomaspham6921 wtf are you talking about ... the space shuttle was only for low orbital orbit ... Starship will go to Mars ... YOu cant have the same design HAHAHAHAHA how you gonna LAND like an aircraft on a planet that have a different gravity ... You dont make any sense bro.
@@thomaspham6921 Problem with the shuttle is not only the fact that it can't land on Mars which only has 1% of our atmosphere, but it's actually not fully and rapidly reusable. Each flight require months of refurbishment and repair. Something NASA was not proud to say. Lastly, they've already built more than 20 Starships and they will be testing an orbital flight in a month or two. Strange that you think otherwise with all the news going on about them.
@@shanegagnon3423 starships not getting anywhere near mars. It will be cancelled.
I'm not a fan of Elon Musk and his personal antics but I will admit what he has done with SpaceX has been amazing. Totally revived the United States' flailing space program.
@@asksearchknock this information is not correct
True. I don't think the US would have a space program anymore if it wasn't for him.
@@asksearchknock Can you reveal the formula you used and the assumptions you made to determine that starlink will lost billions every year with every single person using it?
Elon Musk, Starship & SpaceX demonstrate the genius, efficiency, innovation, spirit, result orientation of private enterprise..
Bill Nelson, SLS & NASA reveal the irresponsible incompetence, uncaring waste, sloth, politics of government.
Personal antics??? Like what having a different political view as you?? You Elon haters are pathetic. You choose to say nothing about the vastly shadier and corrupt other billionaires that might not be as public of a figure as Elon. That’s no excuse you can use either
Michael Sheetz has a dream job. In 50 years space journalism will be the only kind of journalism left. lifetime job secure.
Most companies call a launch and flight a success. SpaceX wants Starship to launch, fly, and land so it can be refueled and fly again. If you go by most standards, every launch of Starship was successful. So far, SpaceX is the only company that has ever launched a rocket to orbit and land the booster back on the ground. Falcon9 rocket boosters have successfully launched and landed over 100 times. There should be no doubt that they'll get Starship operational soon.
The vast majority of the people that live in Cameron County Texas are huge supporters of SpaceX. They employ 6000 people and have built highways, remodeled and expanded the airport, gave the city of Brownsville millions of dollars for upgrades, and gave the school system 10 million dollars to expand and modernize.
Yeah we know. And don't forget to buy a tesla, it's almost written on the astronaut suit, now.
@@jojolafrite90 he's not an eco warrior, he's a passionate spacex fan. I wish you people would understand the difference :( rockets are cool, spacex has the most advanced. That's it. Great company.
@@kfenstymiller I'm sick of the muskrats and their uncritical advocacy of a Corporation.
They serve only to tarnish the brand.
@@DumbledoreMcCracken what are you talking about "uncritical advocacy of a corporation"? Yes I agree some corporations are not great. However, the ones creating new technology for the greater cause, or even just to help better the world, those "corporations" are actually doing some good things. Not very complicated to distinguish good corps from the bad.
So...its more Red District welfare, got it.
Could win ?
As usual, CNBC is a step or two behind.
SpaceX has already won the space race with they're Falcon 9.
Once they get the Super Heavy/ Starship operational, SpaceX's domination will go to the next level.
space race is on going though
And China is right behind so I wouldn’t call the race just yet. Especially since China is neck and neck with Nasa. We’ve got years to go and problems ahead like potential war which would serve as an impediment for any company US related.
*their, but I guess you are actually correct considering it is actually the more common spelling in the USA...
I don`t see other launch operators looking worried , Space X has every chance of going bankrupt with the well behind timelines he said was needed to avoid bankruptcy , Also there's multiple reports of a toxic work environment and that's never good .
@@-TheMaskedMan- This new space station China has just launched is the same one as Russia's MIR in the 80's . When China puts a man on the moon then they will have caught up to where NASA was in 1969.
@ 15:30 if the satellite loses its connection from ground or no response, I believe they are already equipped with auto-deorbit options if it happens it no longer work, just like Drones do when they lose connection with the controller, they automatically can sense that and return home, so it doesn't seem to be an issue if it loses connection, it will most probably just deorbit and burn up in the atmosphere. The reporter needs to at least understand where we are today in terms of technology.
@@randombutrelevant1606 These are beta-sats but they can last longer than that. The newer ones are being build to last (if I remember correctly) 10-15 years. Also some sat are going to be located in higher orbit and 42000 is the maximum, not the required amount for Starlink to be fully operational. If business is good then he can continue to add long lasting satellites. Do you seriously think they would put billions into Starlink and not know the logistics?
sensible code, I am sure the overpaid astronomers would be happier why don't they just give up wailing and use the J Webb scope its better than anything we have here on Earth??
I like that this story was broken down to where I can understand and appreciate it. Thanks!
What a time to be alive! I love waking up knowing that these companies are striving to advance humanity.
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And to think people are made cuz this dude is rich...smh! What should he get when he gives do damn much?
Russians are very busy setting up lasers and emp pulse devices to knock them out of use in Ukraine,
CNBC: "How SpaceX Could Win The Space Race"
Elon Musk: "[SpaceX launch] about twice as much useful mass to orbit as rest of Earth combined"
What, exactly, is CNBC's definition of "win"?
Having these companies pay CNBC for ad dollars so they can speak they truth and not trash on them.
What's Elon's definition of win?
Mars Colonisation, I think.
@@201bio The entire might of the US, China, Russia, Europe, India, and Japan, plus a smattering of other private launch providers ALL TOGETHER put up HALF as much useful payload into orbit as SpaceX. No one else is even in the same race. They simply have no competition to "loose" to.
SpaceX wins be default.
@@semosesam Well yeah, but the future isn't guaranteed, and Mars colonisation proper is still a few decades off. Given how much SpaceX advanced in a decade, you just don't know what could change in that amount of time.
SpaceX has a very big headstart, but then so did the hare in the fable. I hope they "win" by Elon's standard though.
@@201bio Fair points. But again, if we're going to use the tortoise and the hare analogy, NO ONE else has even qualified for the race. No one else has even landed an orbital class first stage and reused it, let alone even attempted to build a fully reusable orbital class rocket. ULA, SpaceX's biggest competitor charges ~$100M+ per launch. SpaceX with their Falcon 9 is able to undercut to ~$60M. With their new Super Heavy Booster and Starship second stage, they will be able to take ~10x the mass of Falcon 9 to orbit, more than double the thrust of the Saturn V rocket, at an internal cost of ~$2-3M/launch.
That is not a typo. When the rocket is fully reusable, the majority of your cost is just the propellant. Same as an airline flight.
NO ONE else, at least publicly, is even TALKING about a rocket on this scale, or this cheap $/KG to orbit.
SpaceX is truly in a class of their own. They have a decade+ head start on everyone based on all available public information. If I'm wrong, I would love nothing more than to learn of who has, even on paper, a design even close to competing with SpaceX's Starship.
Its easy to win when you are the only competitor in your class.
Go spend billions before you fly a rocket in 2000
Depends on the competition. I once got third place out of two due to a points system. I was very salty lol
There are at least 3 legacy competitors for Spacex.
ULA, arianne space, Roscosmos.
Actually there are a few more and they’ve all fallen behind.
@@rocklobster3414 LOL! Oh noooooo
Actually, no. You can still lose even if you are the only competitor. There is nothing "easy" about any of this.
16:12 As previously shown in this video, Starlink orbits in Low Earth Orbit, below 500km. That means that the satellites experience significant contact with the Earth's atmosphere and they will deorbit by themselves, without needing to make use of propulsion at all. These low orbits are self-cleaning, which sets them apart from higher orbits.
Yutani......
550 km orbital altitude and the deorbiting needs a propulsive reduction in velocity. You are off significantly.
@@Sn0wZer0 and you really think those facts will convince him at all?
@@arturoeugster2377 At 550km, an unpowered satellite will reenter the atmosphere after "several years" according to NASA. At 550 miles, on the other hand, it will take decades. Are you perhaps confused over units?
@@arturoeugster2377 it will deorbit it will just take more years to do so.
@@goranstojanov1160
When a satellite reaches the end of its intended operation, it uses the ion engines to deorbit in a controlled way . Talk to the Starlink operators to confirm the procedure. Or if you prefer to NORAD near Colorado Springs.
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Could win the space race? Have you been living under a rock? A far as I'm aware of, Space X is the only company I know of that has multiple reusable rockets and has more successful launches in one year than all other launches put together by a large number, and is a commercial company that has also delivered both government and civilian astronauts.
dassu isto notto truue
Its just a rocket, dude. The important parts are the science instruments. NASA put a helicopter on Mars, not Elon Musk.
@@stellaoh9217 He's got multiple rockets, and now building the ultimate rocket!
@@kujo8509 I just gave you a car. Now you think you have a vacation home, a new tv, surfboards...all the stuff in the commercials. Nope. You just have a car.
typical cnbc, anti musk. anti tesla, anti space x, anti all
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What do you mean “could dominate Space”. Spacex already dominates Space.
@@randombutrelevant1606 so are you trolls!
Wait.... "Could dominate"? Spacex already dominates with a 30% market share. Sure, Starlink and Starship are a huge part of their current and future business, but Spacex is already the world leader in putting both humans and cargo into space. BTW, I use Starlink on my sailboat... it's by far the most economical way to get full internet out at sea. So the potential customer base for Starlink is much bigger than people realize.
Right, because tons and TONS of people have yachts and sailboats; especially all those folks in third world countries where they don't have cheaper land based cable internet. You're a brainiac...
The market share is high, because they are selling 2$ for 1$. This might be fine, if there is a path to profitability. But the starlink strategy is nonsensical in my opinion. To start, it's cheaper to lay down low maintenance cables for all houses than to launch and constantly replace a monumental satellite fleet. 99% of houses will forever out of Starlinks market. The same goes for cars. Cell towers are cheaper than satellites in 99% of all places. What's left? The small market of boats, airplanes and extremely remote places. The market is just too small to justify thousands of satellites. That's also why the industry converged to a small number of very powerful satellites.
Soon starlink will stop growing, it will become obvious that it can't reach profitability because it's scale is larger than the market and will be shut down. (And burn loads of investor & taxpayer money on the way there.) So enjoy your starlink while it lasts :)
@erik johansen I wasn't going to reply to Wilhelm, but if he thinks that running cable to every home is cheaper than broadcasting a signal to thousands, or even millions of homes, then clearly he hasn't been paying attention. Just like cell towers replaced landlines, satellites will replace cell towers. Spacex is the cheapest and most reliable means to get satellites to orbit because the boosters are reusable. With Starship reusing both the booster and second stage (as well as a much bigger payload) the costs will be dramatically lower.... making space based communication inevitable.
@@thefloridaman6527
Your market projections are wacked...... One of the core goals of Elon Musk is to drive the price point of every one of his products DOWN with economies of scale and access to larger shares of the markets. There is nothing radical about this idea. It's proven to work in every market it's been employed......
The time is not far off when governments will fear the space dominance of Musk enterprises......Not because there is anything wrong with Musk being that successful but because that's the nature of status-quo governments.
Well, I hope you guys are right. Cheap internet everywhere would be truly amazing. But still, I think the economics don't work out 😅 we will see what happens in some years haha
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"Could" win the space race. It already won by far lol
it aint over until its over
What did they accomplished again besides landing their boosters?
@@Tre16 mmm global internet constellation and very low launch costos for both commercial and government customers ????
@@Tre16
if i am correct
- more launches then every US competitor combined in a year.
- best price to kg ratio in their class.
- biggest sattelite constellation system
- cheapest price for human transportation and cheapest cargo transportation system to the ISS
- the only transportation system which can get stuff back to earth from the ISS
- 100% success launch history with the Falcon 9 Block 5 (last iteration of the Falcon 9) with over 100 flights
- Biggest actual flying rocket atm with the Falcon Heavy
- one of the best launch livestreams
and many more
To be fair, China is building their own ISS with no help from other countries. China might be winning
Collection of old videos, thought this was new
25:50
10'000 customers? They are now over 500'000!
It's a video from Newsthink UA-cam channel....is over a year ago
SpaceX launches basically everything of use right now
@@randombutrelevant1606 Like 80% of everything. Crew and cargo to the ISS, a LEO constellation, and almost every commercial satellite in the last five years.
yeah they launched the Parker probe and JWST, I remember now. I hope they remember to paint SPACE-X on the side of everything in case we forget who they are
God bless Elon Musk He is 1 amazing person with supervision Awesome man an Awesome people working for him To come up with the things they come up with absolutely Amazing
The moment it was mention that starship include 7 engines with quad vacuum made me doubt in any other detail in this video
Respect for Elon… we need more people like him to build our dream to explore space.
7 biljoen people and we are fighting for every inch of land.
We need space to survive.
nah bro half of those billion are in two countries India and China, yall dramatic 😂
The length of the video shows how big SPACEX is...!!!
Has nobody noticed? SpaceX has already won. No real competition exists.
duh...
The Reaver Engine - I wonder if people caught on to the reference from the Firefly series/movie 😂
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I thought they already won
They did. Something happens, then half year passes and we get a CNBC video about it.
Lmaoo no cap
what are you meterics
india can launch AFP Isro for 5 million their entire mars program cost 1 billion
You mean how it IS dominating space!
The year went by so fast. Proud of all your work Marcus
to The Mars baby!
Space X wasn't born with a silver spoon in its mouth. Let us not forget how many times they almost failed.
This video was released to UA-cam just a month ago - but it contains a LOT of data that's more than a year old. Just a few examples; StarLink is no longer in "beta", it's been released to end-user customers (I know, I'm one of them!). They have an Enterprise class (gigabit speed) Starlink package now, as well as a "mobile" one. Starship and SuperHeavy have just conducted "all up" test fires on the launch pad and test stands.
The next few years is going to be VERY interesting...
and you uploaded your comment on starlink ?????
@@ebaystars Yup.... This one, too! :D
@@paulfeist thats great !!! maybe you should put a clip pf you using it and some QOS datat (quality of service) Im in asia (thialnd) quite intersting platform
Typical CNBC rubbish. As anti Musk as can be.
For cell phone addicts, Starlink is a Godsend. If I lived in a remote location, I would use ham radio to pull in the news or send essential traffic. I often carry my cell phone in my cargo pocket and never take it out during the entire day. In the car, it goes into the glove box. I put that cell phone in its place, not the other way around.
Starling providing such important necessities for those people. such humanitarian service, my heart goes out to starling. i went to a certain location in the caribbean
and i was surprised that they have not internet connection there, such inconvenience.
The time for the earthly telescope is at its end. Telescopes in space are "easily" possible and can be much better.
exactly JWT is operating more than 1 million km away, collision? with a micrometeroid, possible.
Telescopes have always slowly moving away from peoples homes to the most isolated locations possible, some day you might find space telescopes park just outside of are solar system. Earth based telescope 🔭 will become something just like those fancy horse and buggy carts in big cities for tourist.
1'385 satellites? It's now way over 2'500!
It's collection of old videos.
I suspect this video was made close to a year ago and only now being published on YT
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They are deployed at 290 kilometers so dead satellites that can't raise their orbit will get deorbited by atmospheric drag in a week.
550 km, not 290 km, they deorbit autonomously.
@@arturoeugster2377 I mean when they are deployed, before they raise their orbit.
@@arturoeugster2377 they deploy at 290 km and then they get checked out before raising their orbit with their own ion engines. any malfunctioning satellites don't get raised up and quickly de-orbit.
We have starlink at our camp and its better than the internet i have at home in the city located in northern ontario canada
I'm more captivated on firefly story than spaceX itself
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I think the Philippines has sign an agreement to allow Starlink service into the country, many unnerved areas there due to spotty Telecom infrastructure ,there are thousands of 🏝 islands
Note (2:03): When this video posted on UA-cam (July 14th 2022), Starlink was available in about 40 countries… not five.
I have seen the other comments that this video is out of date in general. They should probably note an originally-posted date; maybe this was on their site in 2021, but if posting things on YT a year later, people are bound to think that the info is supposed to be current.
Yes
Including in Ukraine lol
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been using starlink for a year in RV traveling its Awesome
Our fiber optic project here in dutch harbor alaska will be 2gigs a second haha. I was pumped for space x to service dutch harbor, but they took forever and still don't have a date. But fiber optics is where you gotta be.
Fiber Optic AND the internet came from the Roswell Crash in 1947.. Fact!!
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Hi Kim how are you?
How can we not be fans of Musk? Just ignore his minor human flaws and celebrate his superhuman achievements for the States.
What minor human flaws? He speaks haltingly a bit while presenting the eye-opening progress and plans of Tesla, SpaceX, etc.. Works to hard? I think Musk is easily the greatest American and world leader of our time. He walks the walk, THEN he talks.. Actually, he is a captivating speaker, slight speech aberration and all. Can't wait for TSLA to go back to pre split price so I can buy Tesla and restore old cottage in Natchez, MS. Whatever.
What? SpaceX already won the "space race" my dudes. They are _the_ space company on Earth.
Without Elon on at the helm Firefly sounds a little bit lost in the dark.
I've had StarLInk for a year and it's been amazing. Our experience improved when we moved form the tripod mount to a pole mount. That made weather and wind a minor issue. This dude has his dish right next to his building which will interfere with his dish's visibility. His mount on the large pole is much better but why not use a pole mount? Also, the data speeds have improved and the latency has decreased quite a bit in the past year that we've had our dish. We aren't able to get cable at our house.
whats the speeds your pulling?
@@TheMwowner1 Given no reply so far the ping is at least 2 months...
@@YoricklaRiviere less then 100 megabits inconsistent probably
Rocketlab is many years ahead of Firefly. They are vertically integrated to be the #2 player behind SpaceX.
Imo they can only be a #2 behind SpaceX if they can develop a reusable heavy-lift launch vehicle (Falcon 9, New Glenn or Starship or even ULA Vulcan to an extent), which they don’t have any plans for. Neutron will be awesome, but it can only lift 8 tons to low orbit; not a ton of competitive potential when Starship can send a hundred tons into the deep solar system, or potentially even a little more into LEO. Other aerospace companies will be panicking and scrambling to keep up with Starship once it’s online, trust me.
Relativity. Terran 1 launching in a month or two. Fully reusable Terran R in development. All 3d printed.🇺🇲🚀
@@Zacharysharkhazard well what you dont understand or know: there is a market for small/micro satellits and they are not interested in big rockets like starship, vulcan etc for multiple reasons.
What does this Number 2 nonsense even mean? launches? kg to space? reusability? cost ?
@@Zacharysharkhazard Isn't Neutron supposed to be more robust than Falcon 9? Rocket Lab is a successful functioning launch company with future plans. The rest of these companies aspire to be functioning.
I can see them going to number 1. Beck was talking about getting away from carbon fiber for Neutron, but said they would lose too much payload capacity, so he took the tougher route and went back to carbon fiber. Starship's failure will be building with stainless steel, giving away 1/2 their payload.
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Correction: *has won the space race.
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I've a feeling that I watched this before & it is uploaded again
Delta IV Heavy - $350 million per launch, 28,000KG to LEO, no reuseability
Falcon Heavy - $90 million per launch, 30,000KG to LEO with all three boosters recovered.
I think SpaceX has already won. When Starship is ready to fly for $3 million per launch and can transport 100 tons to LEO...It is completely over for any company trying to compete until their own Starship is developed and in use.
indias AFP Isro - $5m
@@jonnym4670 whats an afp
@@jonnym4670 stop posting that nonsense everywhere
@@alpineiii7933 it’s probably a small expendable rocket made By India. India’s rockets can’t compete with the starship.
I remember Elon hoping to get starship to 2million per lunch in 2016 dollars but with inflation it’s probably going to be 3 million. It will take a long time before it can reuse the starship enough to get it down to that price. Starship will be around ~10 million per launch for its beginning years.
You got the falcon heavy numbers wrong. 63,000 kg in expendable and 30,000 in reusable
If any Starlink satellite lose propulsion, they will naturally de-orbit within one to five years due to atmospheric drag, and won't leave any debris in space. This is one of the great advantages of the low earth orbit used by Starlink, unlike many other satellites abandoned in space that will take hundreds or even thousands of years to de-orbit.
40000 satellites minimum each holding orbit for 5 years with intersecting orbital patterns with the remaining constellation...
Yeah that IS debris in space.That is like saying 'oh no the radiation goes away after 5 years', that means it is radiated for 5 years.
Do you struggle with basic analysis?
@@viceroy___
All Starlink satellites are designed to fire their thrusters and de-orbit at the end of their lifespans. In the low probability event that any of the satellites fail to properly de-orbit, they will naturally be de-orbited by atmospheric drag within one to five years. We are talking a possible handful of satellites, not 40,000. Unlike you, I am able to comprehend the material before analyzing it, since logical conclusions can be drawn from false premises.
There already are dominating!
I'm waiting for starlink to come to San Antonio, Tx. Can't wait to mount the dish on my roof.
Damn, thought this was an actual 1 hour long video. Just stuff I have seen before ;(
One of the biggest risks to satellite constellations are CMEs (Coronal Mass Ejections). SpaceX has already lost 40 Starlink satellites due to a low-level CME earlier this year. If a more serious event occurred similar to the Carrington Event of 1859, they could potentially loose the majority of the constellation.
There are software mitigations you can take to reposition the narrow side of the satellite toward the CME. This reduces drag.
From what I understood those 40 satellites were all lost in one launch before they got into their final orbit. The CME's cause extra heating in the upper atmosphere resulting in higher drag, so the satellites relatively weak ion thrusters weren't powerful enough to overcome the added drag and their orbits slowly decayed. No other satellites have been lost while they were in their final orbits due to sun flares afaik.
@@XerxesGustav So a CME heats the Earth's atmosphere enough (above its "normal" average temperature) to cause an expansion of the atmosphere, which brings denser traces of air into a satellite's path, resulting in a proportional increase in air friction against the forward motion of the satellite and the slowing of it just enough to cause trouble? Can a CME also directly fry the satellite's electronics ?
2 different things. You are correct about an event of a certain size would put us in the stone age. The star link satellites were not able to reach orbit because of atmospheric swelling. They did not have enough delta-v . Using enough fuel for that rare situation would have meant launching less satellites due to the weight tradeoff between fuel and payload. It's a gamble.
@@hostarepairman Great Question. I answered below but Xerxes is essentially correct. I expanded on his answer a bit....Jordon
Spacex already did things in space that no other did.
yeah. send a car into space for publicity and also create a known quantity of SPACE-DEBRIS
You all have done an Amazing Job!😉💛💯👍
they only spent like 5 seconds on rocketlab which is sad. they already launch satellites successfully and are building a much bigger rocket as well. i guess they just didn't get the access to rocket lab or didn't want to go to new zealand.
Or wanted just a hit peae on Tesla via using OUTDATED INFO OR REHASHED/REPACKAGED OLD INFO FROM THEIR PREVIOUS VIDOES JUST ADDED MORE BIST AND PIECES TO IT BUT STILL NOT USING UP TO DATE INFORMATION.
Not too up to date, but nice documentation overall. Thanks!
Lots of inaccuracies in there, but one stands out: where does that 7-Engine Starship come from? Was and is six for a long time, and only real other discussion is going up to 9 (mostly to reach 42 in tiral, probably). I guess your artist got you there with an easter egg ;-)
I was wondering what year they made the program :) 10.000 cusomers and over 1000 satellites happened a long ago.
@@la7dfa yeah,i know... Must have been a years long project... Ithink thereis footage from this years presentation there, and some info thats definitly from this year. Even 33 booster enginee is relatively recent. But mainstream media leaving out the first Mechazilla-stack??? **shaking-my-head**
I love how any space lover taking a cursory glance at these news segments just tears them apart with facts lol.
@@SubvertTheState I suspect we follow this way more closely than a random reporter. :)
@@la7dfa It says in the fine print that the Starlink section was originally published in April 2021, so produced probably late 2020-early 2021.
The space race already learned it’s lesson. Where is you at? Now cooperative learning is the big gig.
He fixed the raptor 2 problem, faster than you guys edited this video 😂
Elon Musk: the first 21st Century Space Launch System. NASA: Mated a Space Shuttle with a Saturn V...and made it ALL one-use disposable! You be the judge.
Space debris - the low orbit means *dead satellites automatically come down* rather rapidly. Engines just make it faster yet. This should be mentioned in this video. Test Failures - this video totally misses the radical new way SpaceX goes about development: *Test failures* including exploding rocket crashes are embraced as the way to quickly push to working rockets. This is a stark contrast to the build-only-one-rocket approach (and it better be perfect out of the gate!) that NASA has always used. *Rocket Lab* is succeeding - in the same size category as Firefly - a much better example than Firefly for a "second SpaceX". And they just sent a pathfinder for SLS to the moon!
Best space documentary 👌 👏
God bless you Elon Musk.. and all of those working so hard beside you to save humanity.
There is a subtle anti-Starlink bias in this video. This is inexcusable, given that it appears to be intended as a documentary style video. CNBC: try waking up to factual and neutral reporting, without negative undercurrents of insulting phrasing and derogatory tone of voice. The work that Starlink does is cutting-edge technology and successful by any standard. Perhaps some of the costs of this documentary are underwritten by Starlink competitors, who are far back in second place?
SpaceX is _almost_ there, but they need to get Starship working. The politics holding up Starship due to NASA favoring the Space Launch System needs to be overcome as soon as possible.
It is not NASAs mission to gamble on a single untested project. That is why they are wasting a lot of money on SLS.
The goal for NASA must be to have more than a monopoly in the private sector.
I am a huge SpaceX fan, but the must not be alone in the real competition. Looks like the other U.S. companies are waiting for China to catch up. I do not see any "grasshopper-style" testing reported at all.
I get the feeling Elon blames red tape when his projects fail to come online at promise dates... one project after another now showing up bust...
@@agnidas5816 Delays in cutting edge projects. What a huge failiure.
I bet he must feel the competition closing in.
Oh... fun fact: His opponents are hardly at the grasshopper stage yet.
So they are basically a decade behind SpaceX with their single use rockets. That is what keeping humanity firmly on the ground.
But keep bashing the only guy getting somewhere.
@@agnidas5816 yeah Elon is famous for failing, SpaceX had never achieved booster landing, electric cars are not sold... oh wait. what projects btw are you doing?
@@agnidas5816 Are you that STUPID or mroe precicely that MSM deluded?
Edit: Also to add from flys comment:WHAT PROJECTS ARE YOU DOING BDW OR DO YOU HAVE 1000+ HIRED PEOPLE
I got the Starlink dish and just didn't connect the service so if tshtf I'll have the hardware to connect to the Starlink network.
why dont you level the audio when you connect several clips together dont you guys ever QC media before you TX it ,
I admire Musks ambition to build a colony on Maes, however, I think that a colony on the moon is more feasible, and cheaper, and serves the purpose of not having all our eggs in the same basket.
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“Starlink: Better Than Nothing!”
Is there any valuable in other planets that can take back home for use?
aren't they already dominating space? in the US at least
The US is turning into Germany with regulations. I hope Space X can overcome the delaying regulations.
Nothing is really good right now
until things get f'ed up, and people like you wonder where the regulators were
@@fredmdbud There's a happy middle ground between too little and too much regulation. Nowadays we fare on the side of too much. And besides, in a pioneering industry like this, accidents are part of the process.
Starlink also operates in Lithuania
It is interesting that scientists endeavour to grow plants in ground station for recycling of air.
48:07 SpaceX launch cost is simply much cheaper than any other launch competitors especially the small ones featured here. Divide the $62m SpaceX charges for launching 22,800kg of payload and see how it comes to a much lower figure than any of the competitors! Of course their single launch cost is higher but they are able to offer a bunch of satellites being launched together in one of their transporter missions very low costs per kg payload.
SpaceX advertised price and reality are 2 different things, think $100 million for Falcon 9. They mention Starship will do a freight cost of $10 kg, sure!!!
@@222INFINITY 100 million cost per launch is not at all accurate...we are just supposed to believe your word? Sorry.
@@222INFINITY SpaceX charges between $50m and $62m for Falcon 9, while Falcon Heavy is $90m, iirc. The higher prices you are using are for NASA and other government contracts that require a massive amount of specialty items.
I hope that spaceX will always be the leading organization for space exploration.
However, the dedicated use of A.I from other nations might be challenging this industry.
Why would you hope that? I think competition is always better for everyone who isn't an investor in that particular company. We should rather hope that SpaceX and/or others continue making this kind of progress.
everyone across the world is dedicated to A.i.
@@Andreas-gh6is PROBELM IS THAT AALOT OF BYROCRACY AND ESPECIALY POLITICS CONSATNTLY ARE SHAFTING COMPANIES AND PURPOSLY STOPPING OR SLOWING TEH DEVELOPMENTS SIMPLY DUE TO COMPANY NOT BEING IN SPECIFIC POLITICAL ORIENTATION OF THE RULLING APRTY OR DUE TO NOT TAKING ALOT OF 3rd PARTY COMPALIES AS A CONTRACTORS THAT ARE TIED TO THAT RULLING POLITICAL PARTY.
THATS THE MAIN PROBLEM!!!
Those Falcon 9s are going to be mass produced and goin to reach Mars soon!
I can play 8 ball pool game with Billy on the other side of the world from me, the game play is like he's sitting right next to me. I'm sure it's useful for so much more important things but so far for me it's perfect
So one thing they missed is that the Starlink satellites are so low in orbit that even if they do lose the ability to de-orbit them, they will de-orbit themselves in a few years, unlike further up satellites that can take hundreds of years to re-enter. So Starlink is actually at no risk of the Kesler effect.
Also, Starlink can be used by commercial companies as well, Many construction companies are already using it.
Not "no risk" but risk is mitigated and time-bound
Finally some good reporting!
Question: Is this an ad ? How could the user have used 'the app' for setupp if they had no service ?
I know they needed something to Stretch out the show for there time slot, but the bizarre relationship of SLS and starship in the Artemis program would’ve been more interesting then firefly. Maybe explaining Artemis in a way everyday people could understand? I’ll give it a try: You send 4 people in a small car to travel across the country to a campsite, you also send a Tesla self driving giant motorhome across the country to the same campsite, both the car and the motorhome stops outside of the campsite. Two people get out of the small car and step into the empty Spacious motorhome and proceeds to the campsite, the other two persons stay in the small car outside of the campsite till the first two are ready to go, they drive the motorhome back to the car park outside of the campsite, then get into the car to return home, when they reach their town they stop at the junkyard to drop off their car to get it scrapped and take the bus the rest of the way home.
THEN YOU CRASH THE BUS ON THE WAY HOME.........AND YOUR SCREWED