FULL BUILD VW Karmann Ghia Chassis | Complete Restoration
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- FULL BUILD VW Karmann Ghia Chassis Complete Restoration! Final Paint and assembly. Chassis/axle/transmission | Restoring antique cars complete process. Howdy folks! Enjoy! Preservation, restoration, repairing antique vintage cars and trucks is my passion. In this video I paint the chassis and install the front axle and transmission, torsion bars, spring plats and more. This car was forgotten in a barn for 40 years. Let's bring it back to life. ctmoog, ct, ct's garage
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Now we’re talking! Your slightly extended absence has been worth it!
Re the spring plates; if they’re resting on the stops you can’t control the angle. They’re just resting there. I believe the angle suggested in the manual is when they’re loose to adjust the tension they will be when resting on the stop.
Spot on on the talcum powder for the rear spring plate bushings; just like the factory recommends. Love how thorough and methodical you are when putting things back together; a whole lot better than seeing you tear things apart 🤣😂. Fantastic job!
Re the body I suggest you rework the bottom and underside of it where it meets the pan, also under the wheel wells, etc before you put it on the chassis. You can then install it on the chassis and when you decide to paint the body you won’t need to work double by taking it off again. Makes absolute sense.
Thanks man!
@@CTmoog yup good plan
Setting equal angles off the stops gives you equal preload on each torsion bar, car will sit level (side to side). Height of rear of car depends on how much preload. Angle on stops doesn't matter. Nice work CT!
@@johntoob Yes! This! ☝️
@Vayabroder is correct. Also, you need to measure the angle on the untensioned spring plate when the frame is properly leveled. The page you show at 19:42 has the section titled "To set spring plate" that explains how to do it with the body attached. I'm sure you can adjust as necessary.
As a former Ghia owner and lover...I am so impressed with the car's engineering and the skills of this man. Very nicely done!
Wow CT, what a nerve-racking sequel with that torsion bar & spring plates in the 17° angle drama, OMG; After that baby powder I thought you'll have to change diapers, luckily for us you did well, now don't forget your new tires, good show.
I was a old time VW factory trained mechanic and I can tell you replacing spring plates can be frustrating, kind of like a brake or gas line fitting that won’t quite go on , if you walk away have a coffee it usually goes right on or the mechanic next to you will put it on first try, been there 👍😄🎩
Wow. You have really started to figure this stuff out. I started off watching your videos saying "don't do that" or "noooooo". But now I see you nailing it!. We are all learning. I have a '67 Ghia that I am slowly restoring. A lot of what I have to deal with are PO mistakes. Whomever picks up this Ghia next will have much less problems thanks to your high quality work. Very interested in the final alignment work as my chassis has ride issues.
Thank you! Yes, it feels like Im starting to get a rhythm for all of this! Good luck with your 67! Keep me updated!
I had a friend who dismantled and rebuilt a VW Bug to replace the pan in one day, this was back in the sixties. Nice video thank you.
C'est vrai c'était long 😔enfin vous re voila 😀 super job, j'adore suivre le retour à la vie de cette vieille dame et qu'elle patience enfin bref, à très vite 🖐🙂 Nathalie France
I am glad we are see you putting projects back together! After you finish this one finish the swamp dragon.
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Chassis is coming along awesome , nice work👍....can't wait to see the body dropped on it with some fresh rims/tires.
Congratulations on your work. I am waiting for your videos. Such a car had my mother of 1974 model. Good luck
Ct is getting it together!👍👍
Thanks man!
@@CTmoog yw👍👍
Renews my interest in finding a solid old gia to work on. Cool project and coming along nicely.
The pan looks awesome CT! I think you're right about adjusting the rear torsion bar later... If the stance looks good, then no worries... If it's high or low, then you'll need to turn it a click or two.
Thanks Greg! 👍
^^^^ The Karmann Ghia, Wizard.^^^^
Sweet! Don't be afraid to use locktite on those large bolts and it's always a good idea to use a click wrench for torque. If you're not sure and w/o specs as a rule it's usually 100nm for 18mm bolts and 55nm 16mm.
Is this Video?? 🤔
IN REVERSE!!
Almost looks like Assembly???
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CT, to get your car to set level, the torsion plates need to have the same angle when they are hanging free below the stops. Trust me that isn’t easy. I spent 2 days fussing with my 67 bug.
There is a chart that tells how many notches to turn the inside and outside to make the desired change. Remember the inside and outside have a different number of splines.
That is good info James! Thank you!
I can send you a copy of the chart if you want. Send me an email or I’m message.
Setting equal angles off the stops gives you equal preload on each torsion bar, car will sit level (side to side). Height of rear of car depends on how much preload. Angle on stops doesn't matter. Nice work CT!
Thanks John! =)
Wikipedia about Volkswagen Karmann Ghia: ua-cam.com/video/Wpvc5yB8EXY/v-deo.html
Yeah, I'm not seeing why their angles *sitting on the stops* isn't within a fraction of a degree, unless the pan was sitting on the jack stands at some unequal angle.
Hi. I have seen the trouble that you had with the degree from these swords. I did it very clever. I marked it different when i disassembled it. I removed the 4 screws from the lid. Then very easy hits with the rubber-hammer against the sword until its just only released and jumps off. Not more! Until it just jumps off from the stuck. Then you mark a line paralell to the sword with a metal-cutter, into the metall with the 4 holes. Just a line parallel to the sword. So its marked in its released serial position. But the teeth inside and outside the pipeline should of course not be out completly. Just only a bit that the sword can only release. When you assemble it again and you want the serial position you dont need to count the teeth. Just stick it in parallel to the marked line. And if you want, you can measure now the degree. Later on, when the sword is up again on the stuck, of course you will always measure 11.5 something, because the position is always the same. The degree you adjust only in the released position. I m german. I hope you could understand my bad english.😉
I went through all of this around 2000-2005. Was a long process but was a lot of fun. I'd get a trophy every time I went to car show. I still have it ('69 coupe) but it hasn't been driven in at least 5 years. I need to get it going again.
WOW! What a beautiful looking chassis or foundation, or whatever they are called. Baby powder is now 100% corn starch plus a fragrance. Although you probably have a life supply now, picking up corn starch at the grocery would be a lot cheaper. Those slots in the front spring plate mounting are to allow caster adjustment, also known as king pin inclination.
With used car prices soaring in our present economy, you might consider selling the restored car for working capital??? Whatever you do, you can sure be proud of it!
The words in the title "FULL BUILD" and "Complete Restoration" got me confused; I thought the car was done. Can't wait til its finished!
This project is good. And your approach is very slow but steady. Like this and the Porsche your doing. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks Terry! I'm working on getting better and faster!
Remember the brass bushing in the bell housing for the starter motor.
Great to see this week’s progress, very soon this will be a rolling chassis.. awesome 👍
CT, Congratulations from Germany...!! WOW! I love it to watch all your videos and they "send me back" to the 80ies, when I jobbed with 19 at a small gasstation, bought an old rusted bug cabrio from 67 for nearly nothing, together with a second chassis to change... My boss said: OK, you can use the garage in the evenings, but in 3 month all is done, promised?.... Oh my goodness! If I would have had a clue, what it means to restore it .... And unfortunately I hadn´t that time to do it, like you. Finally the bug has got complete new papers, the Manufacturer "Volkswagen AG" was deleted and in the new "Manufacture-line" stood my name (!) and the name of my boss (because of the chassischange).. I was proud! And it runs a couple of years until I unfortunately had to sell it, because of my studies. But my restoration was miles away from what you did!!! When I watch your videos, I would like to make it once again! But unfortunately I have no time and place to do it...
Well done, CT!!
Looking forward to the next videos! (Sorry for my bad english),
Cheers, Stephan
Hey Stephan! That is a great memory my friend. Thank for sharing!
BIG PROGRESS......great job
absolutely speechless! Not only are your skills increasing, your video style is like wow...Im captivated the whole video
Awesome! Thanks man! =)
I have dozens of pan off resto jobs on type3. Bugs. Busses. Notch backs. Fast backs and built a few vw based kit cars over 30 years. I bet I have painted over 100 air cooled vw.
They are the easiest and cheapest car to restore.
My favorite was putting rx motors in them. The busses were great for putting pinto. Rx and Subaru motors in.
It gave you great power. Good heat and air cond. I always wanted a split window bus with a mercedes turbo diesel motor with front and rear heat and ac. Perfect combination . I miss the days of restoring vw.s
This is one of the best videos on UA-cam
Thank you!
CT looks sweet your doing a great job. Them noches alignen in between the square I say good in done your in the specks better than factory that car will drive like a dream again CT job well done👍👍⭐
I does not matter where the angle is when it is on the stop When it is off the stop is when you need to measure them to be the same. The castings on the stop are all different. once you put weight on it it wont be on the stop.
looks brandnew 👍👍👍
Don't forget to seam seal those new pans.
I don't know how I missed this but man it's looking fantastic!
Thanks man! I appreciate that! =)
Looking great CT. Keep the videos coming because we really enjoy them.
BTW... I agree Ian P A below... finish the body now. You are soooooo close!!!!
Or at least do the whole bottom of the body so that he doesn’t need to get it apart again. He can have the patina look and drive it for a while and if he decides to re-paint it he can deal with just the body.
It takes time doing a car like that!!Looking good!!
FINALLY!... someone on YT with proper spraygun technique! lol
=)
The Karmann Ghis is starting showroom fresh👍👍👍☝️☝️☝️☝️👌👌👌👌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Awesome job CT the chassis looks great 😊👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 your doing a great job stay safe and god bless 🙏
So nice to see you making progress on the same vehical. I know you are anxious to get the body on but you may as well get the bodywork done first and put it together when done. Just lean the chassis over by the wall and get the body in the turnstile if you have one? You have a welder so you can make one. Just convert to engine stands
Look’n good CT! I would try and address the body while it’s off. It’s likely once you put it back on and start to drive it you’ll just never finish it up.
Exactly my opinion. He should maybe rework the bottom of the body including under wheel wells and fenderwells and anything that comes in contact with the pan. Then he won’t have to take it apart again. He can just deal with the body itself.
the chassis looks great go go
Your approach to your video is much improved!
Thank you!
I seriously thought about restoring an old bug a few years back. I was very quickly disheartened by the fact that not only are they hard to find but was overpriced for the condition most were in. I'm not sure when this happened as back in the 80s when I actually owned a couple they were very easy to find and very inexpensive. I wish I still had the two I owned back then. Anyways I just found your channel and it's reinvigorating my love for bugs. Thanks 😊
Good episode, with good flow and communication of the process. I like the way it turned out and I think it was worth the time it took.
best to wait until whole car assembled then adjust each side by ride height until equal
They hand built the Ghias so you're doing the same thing! Be proud!
Now you have arrived when it come to painting now. Your friends; Hey what you do today? You; O just built a freakin car, lol
Yes, I can't wait. It would be cool the leave the patina but It might be nice to paint it like new! Thank you! =)
Hey CT....the Ghia is really looking good and coming together. You have done so much!! Good job!!!!
LOOKIN GOOD!!!!
Excellent result aftet a lot of hardwork.
Hi CT Young old friend from the first day🇺🇸, I`m so far impressed with what you have accomplished👍🏻. but one thing I missed, probably you forgot all the nuts and bolts fastened to the right torque🤔, if you don't do that you get major problems afterward, with the dangerous outcome. please check this. before it`s too late. I finally do start to believe in your wishes to do some real restoration work👏, so I`m looking forward to the next vid. one more point and everything you take apart reconnects In the opposite way if not it doesn't fit. continue with the good work.Greetings you may call me Hubertus if you want to.🇳🇴☮☘
With the spring plate resting on the stop, the angle should always be the same on both sides. If there is a difference between the two, this may be caused by some distortion of the chassis frame.
However, to properly adjust the rear suspension height, the torsion bars on both sides must be adjusted. The time you will be able to properly do this is when the car is completed and with all wheels on level ground. That is the time to check if the car is level and properly standing. Lifting higher is not really recommended, but can be done.
If I recall well, the number of splines on the the torsion bars are different on both ends. This allows you to adjust the lift height by minimal amount, by e.g. increasing/rotating CCW the torsion bar by 1 spline on the outside side while decreasing/rotating CW by 1 spline on the inside.
Best time to finalize this adjustment is however as mentioned when the car is completely assembled.
Wow, super impressed with your video and the close ups which will be really helpful as I start me resto project. Thanks for doing this for the rest of us to learn.
Thank you! =)
As long as the angles are the same both sides, then they should be the same when under tension. When the engine is in and body on, you will notice the body down on one side if the tensions are not the same.
Looking great and all coming together nicely. Cant wait to see it finished. After restori ng the chassis, I would say restore the body too. Waste of time having a new shiney chassis and a rusty looking body on it.
Great progress. Will be cool to see the body back on the chassis.
GO CT, GO!!!!
I have never seen a video on how to disassemble and reassemble the rear torsion bar components. Thanks!
Holy Guacamole! I'd call some people that know how to install/adjust the spring plates. Looks and sounds like something that goes together under close tolerance and if not done right will effect the stability of the ride in a bad way. Hope you can get someone to drop by and help you get it right. Good luck!
Yep...never tighten bolts/fasteners...till every single one is started!!
When you welded the pan it probably was off slightly?? Bolting up the tranny before welding would have kept it aligned...most likely....you could tweak the mounts too to give you some alignment ..
For the angle...did you check the floor, by the jack stand, for the angle? If the jack stand and floor are not the same height on both sides, then the level on both sides will not match and your angles will not be the same.
Should be fine at this stage of the project. He isn't building a piano.
Excellent video CT :) also when get on wheels on and motor attached transmission then do adjustments too plus doing super well too ! Also looking forward more videos on too and going be awesome hear you say I drive see what fine got do next Lol!
Absolutely perfect like from VW factory building lines! Good job! Sometimes you do something good!
Ok, I need a chain hoist thingy like you have in my garage FOR SURE.
There is a difference in the number of teeth on the inside and the outside of the torsion bar. I'm sure it is in your manual. To achieve a rotation of a certain number of degrees from your first attempt, you probably need to shift some notches on the inside and on the outside to end up as close as possible.
Great job from belgium
Great job CT! I knew you’d get her done.
CT the famous last words . I'LL TORQUE THESE LATER. I used them words before then ltr parts loosened up and fell off. Lol
HAHA! =) make sure you don't let me forget! =)
Excellent CT! Looks factory.
Thanks for the new content CT!
Thanks Mark! Thanks for watching!
Do you have P O box to receive packages?
I am ready to see it going looks good
Really enjoyable watching this all come together.
Thumbs up,love ya man! Greetings from Germany!
Love your work.. Love from India. Doing that I mean rebuilding a car like that is on my bucket list.
Wow that looks good!! Well done!
The angle is not measured on the stop.
It is only measured unloaded
Hey CT I don't know if this is right but shouldn't those torsion bars be packed with grease, I only say that because when you took them out they had a lot of grease on them, looking great to see it coming together.
Maybe not packed but coated to prevent corrosion even though they are coated.
CT! That frame looks GREAT!! The best part about this is that YOU are doing this AND learning how to do it RIGHT ‼️ Keep at ir young man and you will have something to be proud of and your next rebuild will go a little easier👍 Whatcolor are you thinking of painting the KG? Also, single stage paint or paint and clear coat?
Thanks Michael! It feels pretty good! I was thinking about a blue/silver color or a metallic blue.
Here in Brazil there were two types. The one in the video and the exclusive for the brazilian market is the karman guia TC. Was produced from 1970 to 1975.
Absolutely brilliant buddy, great video
You install the spring plates first. Install the axle boots and rear mounts loose before you stab the transmission.
Great restoration going. Can't wait till it's all done. It's alot of hard work. Congrats
You doing a grate job CT 👍
There you go CT. Get ‘er done. I noticed you changed your editing style. It’s good. I don’t think you ever did a video on the tranny. What did you end up getting? Now everyone is gonna be in love with you cuz you put something together instead of taking it apart! Jaaa😁. Also like the idea of you putting the body back on and driving it and then redoing the body later. With that nice under carriage it would be a shame not to restore the body. If you do that you will have yourself a full on show car that you can take your wife on a nice cruise with. Show her all the hard work paid off. Some people also like to leave the body patina if it’s og paint if not you could still cruise it like that with the knowledge that the undercarriage is completely restored. All up to you dude. Now I gotta get working on my Vdubs and posting more videos. I’m hoping to get 1k followers one day. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Woo hoo super proud of you! I got to do the same torsion bar on my 356
Did that twice had the same things and the the problems you had so you are not alone ! It is funny watching someone else but it’s not at the time.
É isso aí! Quer bem feito! Faça você mesmo! Parabéns pela sua dedicação! Com certeza todos os minutos de dedicação, lhe trará uma satisfação enorme!
GOOD JOB!
Looking good but dont forget to seam seal the floorpans along the trans tunnel
Torsion bar preload is fun.
Finally after 2 years one video!
I see you got rid of split case transaxle and now have correct tunnel type!!!
Keep it up! Solid foundation for a fantastic build. Thanks for making these videos.
Bud im so impressed by your work cant wait to see the finished car well done
Escribo desde la cd. de Aguascalientes-Mexico; muy buen trabajo amigo te felicito. Saludos. I write from the cd. from Aguascalientes-Mexico; very good job friend I congratulate you. Regards.
Nice job men!
Your brothers shop it's awesome!!!
Thanks Diego! 👍
Nem vi o vídeo direito já vou mandar meu pla .restauração de respeito Parabéns.
When doing the springplates on my bug the came out still attached to the torsion arms ,needed press the get them apart then spent ages getting them right nightmare job .
Sehr gut 👍