This means you've been taking care of those vehicles. Changing oil every interval of 3-5 thousand miles, etc. I'm just talking about the people who abuse the vehicles by not changing oil, putting stress on the engine.
I bought my first Subaru two years ago, an Outback Wilderness. Subaru engines have evolved, but they still require maintenence and it's slightly more costly than other brands. I anticipate 300k miles out of this car.
Exact model owner here (2013) for 11 years here. MPG now around 20. Issues during this period - high oil consumption since day 1, stuck breaks, corroded transmission fluid line leaking (around 60,000 miles), many rotors, failed CV joints at 55,000 and again now at 160,000, ball joints AND bearings. Otherwise, pretty dependable car IF YOU WILL :)
Yes, in the early Subarus they used a single layered graphite coated head gasket. This is a problem back then where under heat and age chips and wears the gasket where pieces of the graphite get into the engine and cause oil to leak and pressure to build in the engine.
First time watching one of your video's and I honestly can't tell if you're for or against the "unreliable" issue. I have had 6 Subaru's and they have all been great. I do 90% of the work on them and conpaired to other cars these are a breeze to work on. So if anyone reads this, do your oil changes every 5K and it will run ad run and run. For the record, pretty much goes for any car brand or type, if you take care of it, it should be a good car. Beat on it and ignore maintenance and any car will develop issues,
Conozco varios dueños de subaru, incluso alguien que tiene 3, un Outback 1999, un 2009 y un 2016 sin problemas ninguno de los tres. El Outback 1999 solo le han cambiado de sus partes suspension, frenos, luces, bushings, Los discos delanteros... si el que hizo el video quiere algo que dure mas tiempo de ahí, que es lo que quiere?
I had a 2014 Outback, and my issue with the car was that it consumed oil right from the day I bought it. A full quart every 1000 to 1200 miles. This was the only low-mile water-cooled vehicle engine I've ever seen in 50 years of having a driver's license, that burned anywhere near this much oil. With those old VW and Porche boxer engines, you expected them to burn oil: they were air cooled, so the pistons had a slightly loose fit in the cylinder bores so that they wouldn't seize due to the larger range of thermal expansion compared to a water-cooled engine. But the Subaru boxer is water-cooled, so there's not the need for a loose piston fit to explain the high oil consumption that so many Subaru owners complain about. Mechanics I've talked to generally assume that the low-spring rate steel used in modern piston rings, and the water-thin OW-20 engine oil are primarily what's to blame for this high oil consumption, but my 2023 Rav4 uses the same wimpy piston rings and 0W-20 oil, and it doesn't burn a drop between 5K mile oil changes. So there's something else about the Boxer engine that's allowing oil to get back the rings and valve guide seals. Anyway, I'll never own another Subaru unless they fix the oil consumption problem, and bring the fuel economy up into the high 30's or low 40's, like so many other more modern CSUV's are getting.
I bought a 89 Honda crx back in 89 brand new from the dealership. I beat the heck out of that car for 10 years and still got 230k miles out of it. Could I have gotten more miles out of it? I’m sure of it. If you want your car to go 300k and more just be nice to it and do the maintenance. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
You said “air cooled”. Dude, how can you own so many and think it is air cooled, lol. As far as ‘UNRELIABLE “. And people hating them, lol. It’s the #1 rated car by consumer reports for safety, and reliability. We have a 2011 outback, bought new, not one issue until the wire harness plug failed at 157,000 miles. Before that, not one issue for 12 years. Since then, only wearable parts replaced, still on original alternator/starter. I’ve never met someone that did not love their Subaru/ Subaru’s, passed down to tge next generation. It’s also maintain, not you maintenance something, drives me crazy!
Reviewing back to this video over a year later if you noticed i forgot what engine was replaced to the FB series engines at 3:33. The FB25 models replaced the EJ253 boxer Engine after 2011 for blowing head gaskets and oil consumption issues, this was in the middle of the 3rd gen Foresters from 2009-2013 model years
I've owned 2 Saab 92x areos (turbo) and 1 Saab 92x linier (na). These are in simple terms rebadged 05 wrx's and all three of them had well over 200,000 miles before I handed them off. The one I have now is an auto has 205,000ish on it and the only thing wrong is the factory turbo started to leak oil and the cats are blown out. I gave that one to my mom to drive to drive.
Air cooled? Oil change interval has nothing to do with blown head gaskets. Blown head gaskets are a thing of the past anyway. Who is suing Subaru after putting a turbo charger on an NA engine? That makes no sense. No lawyer would ever take that case. They do have oil consumption issues as do pretty much every other car brand including Toyota. Sometimes this can be do to lack of good break in but a lot of it is do to lower tension oil rings that are used to increase gas mileage. Subaru is so unreliable that Consumer reports has now rated them number one in reliability above Toyota and Honda.
Be safe or not, and reliable or not are totally different things. One has nothing to do with the other. But, anyway, i just bought my first subaru, i love it. I like the sound, good pick up, been reliable so far. Making sure i do all the maintenance on it at a mechanic that works on subarus. I dont do the work myself so im making sure i find a mechanic thats knows subarus. Ive heard about the head gasket issues and the jokes about it.
Ej22 is the most reliable Subaru Engine. 295,000 1996 Legacy 🚘 1997 Subaru Outback EJ25D 200,000 miles internal head gasket concern. 2005 Subaru Baja 5 speed 225,000 miles and counting… yeah the head gaskets did go at 150,000… DIY friendly and update to MLS gasket and be set for the next decade (with maintenance) I’d say i’m a fanboy and will admit Toyota and Honda are superior for reliability… In the snow and under a financial budget Subaru meets my expectations. YMMV.
I have a 2012 Forester, too. I have been meticulous with maintenance and oil changes. I drive the car very conservatively. It is NOT turbo charged. I had a head gasket failure at only 65,000 miles, which required an engine rebuild for $4,000. I specifically asked the dealership to install real gaskets, and not use the silicone glue sealer. I don’t think that they did so. 60,000 miles later my Subaru had another head gasket failure, causing the engine to overheat through loss of coolant. The current repairs are estimated at $8,000- $12,000. I had bearings replaced last year at $4,000. Bushings at $2,000. The Forester is one of my favorite cars to drive, but they are a hot mess mechanically (except for their all wheel drive system.) Subarus are extremely unreliable, and will remain that way until the company fixes the head gasket issues, by actually putting REAL gaskets in their 2.5 l engines.
Yes well I just got back from the dealer because the TCV failed after 21 k miles. There is a class action lawsuit about this issue. Before that the windshield just popped for no reason. Another major issue. I have owned them for 20 years. I am looking to trade it in as soon as possible. Done with Subaru.
Who are they are way over priced now. The driver assist is stupidly expensive after warranty. And care take over your autonomy. No thanks. Gaskets? Oh come on, those days are long gone. Now it a whole lotta other problems. Love the AWD, but no, Toyota or Honda buddy.
The titles deceptive but you know this already👎 What it would read is "Are Subarus unreliable" or "The History of Subaru" so for those reasons I'm out👎
The structure of this video is a rambling mess. What did I get out of it? You are a Subaru fan, all Subaru issues are due to the old chestnut: poor servicing, bad driving, it's all been an internet beat up etc. Chronic head gasket issues in some models, on going oil leaks at high milage, cam belt Tensioner / engine failure on some models, bottom end failure on some wrx / brz models and terrible cvt life on Subarus in the last 10 years, that's all due to poor servicing......
I had 2 legacy’s, a wrx, an Outback and now a Crosstrek. None have been unreliable.
This means you've been taking care of those vehicles. Changing oil every interval of 3-5 thousand miles, etc. I'm just talking about the people who abuse the vehicles by not changing oil, putting stress on the engine.
I bought my first Subaru two years ago, an Outback Wilderness. Subaru engines have evolved, but they still require maintenence and it's slightly more costly than other brands. I anticipate 300k miles out of this car.
I have a 2018 Subaru Forester I love it I have not had a single problem with it just regular maintenance
Exact model owner here (2013) for 11 years here. MPG now around 20. Issues during this period - high oil consumption since day 1, stuck breaks, corroded transmission fluid line leaking (around 60,000 miles), many rotors, failed CV joints at 55,000 and again now at 160,000, ball joints AND bearings. Otherwise, pretty dependable car IF YOU WILL :)
They have great ratings by consumer reports.
Consumer Reports can easily receive biased information.
Been turning wrenches for 40 years as far as I'm concerned SUBARU is one the most reliable I've run across
It was the material used in the head gaskets, which was corrected.
Yes, in the early Subarus they used a single layered graphite coated head gasket. This is a problem back then where under heat and age chips and wears the gasket where pieces of the graphite get into the engine and cause oil to leak and pressure to build in the engine.
First time watching one of your video's and I honestly can't tell if you're for or against the "unreliable" issue. I have had 6 Subaru's and they have all been great. I do 90% of the work on them and conpaired to other cars these are a breeze to work on. So if anyone reads this, do your oil changes every 5K and it will run ad run and run.
For the record, pretty much goes for any car brand or type, if you take care of it, it should be a good car. Beat on it and ignore maintenance and any car will develop issues,
Conozco varios dueños de subaru, incluso alguien que tiene 3, un Outback 1999, un 2009 y un 2016 sin problemas ninguno de los tres. El Outback 1999 solo le han cambiado de sus partes suspension, frenos, luces, bushings, Los discos delanteros... si el que hizo el video quiere algo que dure mas tiempo de ahí, que es lo que quiere?
I had a 2014 Outback, and my issue with the car was that it consumed oil right from the day I bought it. A full quart every 1000 to 1200 miles. This was the only low-mile water-cooled vehicle engine I've ever seen in 50 years of having a driver's license, that burned anywhere near this much oil. With those old VW and Porche boxer engines, you expected them to burn oil: they were air cooled, so the pistons had a slightly loose fit in the cylinder bores so that they wouldn't seize due to the larger range of thermal expansion compared to a water-cooled engine. But the Subaru boxer is water-cooled, so there's not the need for a loose piston fit to explain the high oil consumption that so many Subaru owners complain about. Mechanics I've talked to generally assume that the low-spring rate steel used in modern piston rings, and the water-thin OW-20 engine oil are primarily what's to blame for this high oil consumption, but my 2023 Rav4 uses the same wimpy piston rings and 0W-20 oil, and it doesn't burn a drop between 5K mile oil changes. So there's something else about the Boxer engine that's allowing oil to get back the rings and valve guide seals. Anyway, I'll never own another Subaru unless they fix the oil consumption problem, and bring the fuel economy up into the high 30's or low 40's, like so many other more modern CSUV's are getting.
I have 22 years of owning Subaru Foresters, and other than the 2004 head gasket, problem, my Subaru s have been reliable.
I bought a 89 Honda crx back in 89 brand new from the dealership. I beat the heck out of that car for 10 years and still got 230k miles out of it. Could I have gotten more miles out of it? I’m sure of it. If you want your car to go 300k and more just be nice to it and do the maintenance. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
True. Maintenance is key to long gevity of a vehicle
You said “air cooled”. Dude, how can you own so many and think it is air cooled, lol. As far as ‘UNRELIABLE “. And people hating them, lol. It’s the #1 rated car by consumer reports for safety, and reliability. We have a 2011 outback, bought new, not one issue until the wire harness plug failed at 157,000 miles. Before that, not one issue for 12 years. Since then, only wearable parts replaced, still on original alternator/starter. I’ve never met someone that did not love their Subaru/ Subaru’s, passed down to tge next generation.
It’s also maintain, not you maintenance something, drives me crazy!
I agree! After Legacy (that I own yet), XV!!!
My buddy has 400000K on his Subaru . I love my Crosstrek 😊
Very nice! I have 3 Impreza and 1 Crosstrek these are really good vehicles
Best small care you can buy today ! At 80, I am on my fourth !
Over 10years and 100k miles, zero issues
None of my Subarus have been problematic. No issues other than the usual maintenance. 2004 legacy and 2015 outback.
Reviewing back to this video over a year later if you noticed i forgot what engine was replaced to the FB series engines at 3:33. The FB25 models replaced the EJ253 boxer Engine after 2011 for blowing head gaskets and oil consumption issues, this was in the middle of the 3rd gen Foresters from 2009-2013 model years
I've owned 2 Saab 92x areos (turbo) and 1 Saab 92x linier (na). These are in simple terms rebadged 05 wrx's and all three of them had well over 200,000 miles before I handed them off. The one I have now is an auto has 205,000ish on it and the only thing wrong is the factory turbo started to leak oil and the cats are blown out. I gave that one to my mom to drive to drive.
Air cooled? Oil change interval has nothing to do with blown head gaskets. Blown head gaskets are a thing of the past anyway. Who is suing Subaru after putting a turbo charger on an NA engine? That makes no sense. No lawyer would ever take that case. They do have oil consumption issues as do pretty much every other car brand including Toyota. Sometimes this can be do to lack of good break in but a lot of it is do to lower tension oil rings that are used to increase gas mileage. Subaru is so unreliable that Consumer reports has now rated them number one in reliability above Toyota and Honda.
most reliable in my opinion!!
According to Consumer Reports as well
Write out what you want to say
Gogle facts offscreen then edit the video so that is less dead speech
Be safe or not, and reliable or not are totally different things. One has nothing to do with the other.
But, anyway, i just bought my first subaru, i love it. I like the sound, good pick up, been reliable so far. Making sure i do all the maintenance on it at a mechanic that works on subarus. I dont do the work myself so im making sure i find a mechanic thats knows subarus. Ive heard about the head gasket issues and the jokes about it.
i have a 2018 crosstrek...46,000 miles..have not spent a dime in repairs....
Thats hardly enough miles to form a opinion. 200k and up.
Ej22 is the most reliable Subaru Engine. 295,000 1996 Legacy 🚘
1997 Subaru Outback EJ25D 200,000 miles internal head gasket concern.
2005 Subaru Baja 5 speed 225,000 miles and counting… yeah the head gaskets did go at 150,000… DIY friendly and update to MLS gasket and be set for the next decade (with maintenance)
I’d say i’m a fanboy and will admit Toyota and Honda are superior for reliability…
In the snow and under a financial budget Subaru meets my expectations. YMMV.
they are water cooled.
latest report, currently subaru is number one, then lexus and toyota
Your vocabulary is a trainwreck man! 😮 but yes I agree w you about your points in this video.
They get shockingly poor fuel economy. Most people dont need awd. Uncompetitive vehicles.
……….Uncle Rodney has entered the chat
But they had the best consumer rating
Recent study shows Subaru is ranked #1 in consumer reports
Without proper maintenance everything is wrong😂
Subaru > Toyota base on consumer reports..
I have a 2012 Forester, too. I have been meticulous with maintenance and oil changes. I drive the car very conservatively. It is NOT turbo charged.
I had a head gasket failure at only 65,000 miles, which required an engine rebuild for $4,000. I specifically asked the dealership to install real gaskets, and not use the silicone glue sealer. I don’t think that they did so. 60,000 miles later my Subaru had another head gasket failure, causing the engine to overheat through loss of coolant. The current repairs are estimated at $8,000- $12,000.
I had bearings replaced last year at $4,000. Bushings at $2,000.
The Forester is one of my favorite cars to drive, but they are a hot mess mechanically (except for their all wheel drive system.) Subarus are extremely unreliable, and will remain that way until the company fixes the head gasket issues, by actually putting REAL gaskets in their 2.5 l engines.
You didn't mention if turbo charged. Also. The 2.0 naturally aspirated is very reliable if driven reasonably and maintained.
Yes well I just got back from the dealer because the TCV failed after 21 k miles. There is a class action lawsuit about this issue. Before that the windshield just popped for no reason. Another major issue. I have owned them for 20 years. I am looking to trade it in as soon as possible. Done with Subaru.
What year is yours? It was stupid to get rid of the thermostats.
Who are they are way over priced now. The driver assist is stupidly expensive after warranty. And care take over your autonomy. No thanks. Gaskets? Oh come on, those days are long gone. Now it a whole lotta other problems. Love the AWD, but no, Toyota or Honda buddy.
My son in law has a Honda civic. He's a mechanic and has replaced many things and still less than 100k miles.
The titles deceptive but you know this already👎
What it would read is
"Are Subarus unreliable" or
"The History of Subaru"
so for those reasons I'm out👎
The structure of this video is a rambling mess. What did I get out of it? You are a Subaru fan, all Subaru issues are due to the old chestnut: poor servicing, bad driving, it's all been an internet beat up etc. Chronic head gasket issues in some models, on going oil leaks at high milage, cam belt Tensioner / engine failure on some models, bottom end failure on some wrx / brz models and terrible cvt life on Subarus in the last 10 years, that's all due to poor servicing......
What make and model do you drive?
Did he say that Subarus are air cooled?
The original boxer Engine from the Volkswagen Beetle was air cooled and or water cooled
Baloney
yawn.....