@@UndeadSoldier32 Framework are mega important, and I think have lowkey driven bigger companies to look at their practices. Dell have recently with their rebrand added in more repairability/upgradability on their laptops and I can't help but think thats not a coincidence seeing how successful framework have been.
The way Apple has been going for the last 10-12 years is proof that they _hate_ computer users. They, however, _love_ *consoomers* who just shut up and buy the new shiny every 18 months. I guarantee if they could figure out how to get audio and video, keyboard and mouse, and Power & network in and out of a solid block of cast aluminum, with no way to open it whatsoever, that's what they'd be selling people (with an Apple logo on it of course).
Agreed. However, they are clearly capable of “listening” to their audience (or just realising they’d lose significant market share over it), since they’ve brought back ports/upgradable storage/affordable computers, so perhaps they do get their act together in years to come. Or not.
Yeah, but people would still buy it. Remember that this is the same society that is addicted to rotten grapes, grain and smoking sticks. Getting people addicted with software magic is even easier. I'll not ever understand how people allow these companies to hold them by their balls with the Adobe creative suite, the Apple "ecosystem" and whatever the next thing is. To the point where they'll pay a 2x premium and deal with awful design choices just to have it.
@masterkamen371 Well with things like the adobe suite, its ironically because they get features way ahead of the curve. For a lot of people, from a business standpoint. Do you really want to use software that has features 4-5 years outdated, or do you want to use the new thing that will attract customers? Adobe lightroom for example, now has proper HDR and gain map support, gain maps which were adopted by both apple and google. However, they are the only photo editor that happens to support both 10 bit PQ HDR with SDR gain maps. Good luck finding that anywhere else.
No, they don't *hate* computer users, I think that's exaggerating. Apple Silicon Macs are a lot faster for regular low power office work and also heavier stuff like editing RAW photos, big multitrack music mixes and doing high quality video rendering, and use less power than an Intel machine when doing it, less noise. If you're doing creative work they're a step up. If they hated power users would they bother making tailored ARM chips which support that? No, they wouldn't. What they do want is to extract the maximum amount of money from anyone so they can continue to grow as a business, hence right to repair being such a huge thing to lobby for as replacing the screen on older (including Retina era by the way) Intel MacBooks is trivial because they're not keyed to the logic board like new ones which don't work properly without micro soldering movement of old screen ICs to the new screen board. iPhones obviously share this sort of trait. The thing is, in the majority of cases their machines are well-built and if they're not violently mistreated, will stand the test of time and survive longer than most other products in their class. Example, I'm writing this on a 2015 rMBP which saw heavy use by a video editor before I got it, it's still going strong although it has had a new top case as the old chassis was pretty ruined, so a new battery/keyboard/touchpad/speakers was cheap to do and gave it a new lease on life. The Apple Silicon stuff, some SSD shorting issues aside as Louis Rossman made videos on, is incredibly well made and will last. If you get one used and in nearly new condition you beat the Apple tax, take care of it and you'll easily get 5-10 years heavy use out of it, same as my rMBP here, except better because the M1 Pro/M1 Max are still highly capable machines, run cooler, have better battery life and don't sound like a jet engine when you're rendering video 😂
@ I never understood comments like this. All of those things can still be true with them also conforming to a service-friendly design (removable storage/memory, easily replaceable batteries and other components). One does not exclude the other. No one said their notebooks are not powerful/can’t last a long time.
@@BrainDamageIV Oh yeah? What model was it? I remember opening up my friend’s MacBook Air which I’ve promised to upgrade the memory on with sticks on hand, in shock that there were no slots to install them in lol
@@schvabek I expect as a tinkerer you're fully aware of this, but there'd be no space in an Air chassis of any year to fit RAM slots. AFAIK Air models always had SMD RAM for this reason. At least on most Airs (not the Intel Retina ones I think) the SSD is upgradeable and you can use NVMe SSDs as the bus for the SSD slot is often PCIe x4 I believe.
@@garydiamondguitarist So make it how many millimetres it takes thicker. Or put the slots in the Pro models, so those who need to upgrade somewhere down the line can.
Just had my G4 on the web today. That baby is still rocking. Keep these old guys alive as long as possible. SSD storage, max the RAM out with a light overclock and she gets some new life breathed into her.
Is it your work computer(not recommended as new software doesn’t work with power pcs) Or like a personal computer(computer not ment for work and mostly for browsing the web)
@@hiroshifox9020 Did a video on G4’s not too long ago. I didn’t have too good of a time taking them online, but they weren’t fully maxed out/overclocked or anything.
@@rigen97 oh for sure, I still know of a machine factory nearby that uses 386/486 computers with some custom software. Also it wasn’t too long ago I saw a computer operated crane running on a C64.
@rexqouia14 All it was meant for was just to run some old games and software. The original owner was just going to throw it out at their shop but I saved it from the trash and fixed it up. I just like the idea of trying to keep older machines alive and find something they can do. Heck my daily driver PC is going on 15 years old and gets used every day.
Things I miss: Target Disk Mode. OS X Server. And yes, the only Mac I ever bought new was a plastic MacBook (also the only laptop I've ever bought myself) and it was an amazing, flexible, affordable machine.
That’s why i use a mid 2012 macbook pro, since i live in Brazil and macs are just abnormally expensive, with this one i can just replace it’s parts like the memory, battery and the ssd, or even the disk drive or anthenna. But not only that, even though it’s old (almost 13 years), it’s an extremely well crafted machine, with an excellent keyboard (backlit) and touchpad, that no other cheap windows laptop in the brazilian market can compete.
@@matthewalonetv I agree, I’ve used a 2011 MacBook Pro for a long time, but unfortunately there’s little you can do about that ancient i5/i7 processor, as there’s no way to upgrade it.
The reason NVIDIA and apple not coming together anymore was not a remaining anger or so, but failed negotiations later about NVIDIA supporting the Metal framework. NVIDIA was most likely afraid as soon as Metal got enough established, Apple would dump them and make their own GPU's, AMD though jumped into that hole, but they indeed got dumped as soon as Apple started making their own iGPU's.
@@vanCaldenborgh Sure, but like I’ve said, nothing technically preventing them theoretically supporting their graphics cards on something like a Mac Pro.
I miss when their designs werefun. The original iBook with the carry handle, the G3/G4 towers, the "sunflower" iMac G4, the original iMac with the different fruit colors... now everything Apple makes is just a super minimal aluminum block. At best you have a choice of colors and the colors are just, like, gray, dark gray, and slightly warm gray. Even the Titanium PowerBooks (the original gray-on-gray Macs) at least had a little fun, with the glow-through Apple logo that was lit up by the display. It was completely aesthetic and served no function, but at least it was fun.
change the battery of a macbook air 2015 you open the cover 6 screws a connector and it's good Now you have to disassemble 50% of the Mac to access the battery, they do it on purpose
The terrifying trend is not just away from owner repair and owner upgrade, but away from ownership altogether. We buy a thing with certain capabilities and specs, and later the manufacturer sends an "update" that nerfs it or bricks it until we agree to pay more. They tell us we agreed to that when we originally bought the thing because it was in the contract, buried on page 17. It's not just Apple doing this. Fortunately, there is a powerful, growing movement among consumer groups to stop these nefarious practices.
Yeah, it gives me the chills when I see footage of those new fancy cars, with an error message saying the thing has to be taken to the dealership, and it won’t start. Yikes.
@@schvabek which is why i will continue using my 2010 car till the bitter end! i miss when new computers came with manual, dvd etc. The Imac i got was an early 2011 model. The last to have Snow Leopard Mac OS X 10.6.X. As well as a OS install DVD and application DVD. You got 2 DVDs stickers manual. Sleek box. Then i believe Lion came out after, and it was a download through Apple store. This was a fast computer. Booted up in seconds. Easy to upgrade ram. No glued in or soldiered nonsense. All screws. Loved this computer. If they made an Imac like this again, i would get out my credit card and purchase one. But i don't think that will ever happen again, especially not in the world we live in today. I thank you for this video. Let me know, it probably will never happen, if a new Imac being sold today will ever be like the ones they manufactured in the past. Cheers!
@@Brian-h3q hey, Brian, thanks for the nice comment! Still driving a 2009 Hyundai lol. I’ll let you know if they ever bring back memory/storage upgrades 😂
@@schvabek Oh that's a sweet vehicle! and thank you for letting me know, if they do return back to the way they built computers, like they did.😂 and i just remembered, it was Snow Leopard Mac OS X version 10.6.6 that was on DVD, that came with my early 2011 Imac. 10.6.8 was the last which was got from Apple update. weird how i can remember that! maybe cause i liked the computer so much. 😎
One interesting long lost Mac feature is video capture! Maybe this is a relic of the time when TV tuners were popular, but many 1990s Macs, up to the G3 era, could include TV tuners and video capture. The G3 was even fast enough to capture footage onto a hard drive in real time while using the video capture - great for games.
@schvabek Other machines certainly had it. You could buy one for a PC easily and some UNIX boxes even had options for it. Silicon Graphics was a big fan of video capture and output, probably because it was good for outputting graphics overlays to analog tape and doing multimedia work (see how your things look on an actual TV etc). I mention it as an Apple thing because they seemed to push it quite hard for multimedia and many systems came with one preconfigured.
I never had an Apple product, but I still miss the 2000s and early 2010s upgradability of pretty much everything computer. Desktops, laptops, all-in-ones, they were all upgradable.
@@schvabek even finding laptops with two RAM slots is difficult. Replaceable CPUs? Forget about that. Maybe you can get a replaceable GPU if you're lucky to get a MXM slot. Which I was actually surprised to learn about, I thought MXM pretty much died a couple of generations ago. However, there *are* laptops with that slot that have RTX 4000 series, so it's chugging along.
Unfortunate that these components get removed, get screwed in, have a cable now or get soldered. The best Macbooks are the older models, specifically the 2008-2012 ones.
Regarding the entry level point, they kinda do. It's just they switched to the iPhone strategy of continuing to make models as their budget model instead of explicitly selling a purpose made budget one which arguably is the better move since you get better, higher quality parts since it was originally a $1000+ machine. They still make brand new M1 MacBook Airs (sold exclusively through retailers like Walmart and Best Buy as part of a partnership) for $699
I was a Mac user for a while. Then the war with NVidia and the 2013 Mac Pro left me high and dry so I left. As for the non-upgradability issue, I just got a Framework 13 laptop. Everything in that thing can be replaced or upgraded by the end user. Love it.
While i understand some of these removals were for reasons oitoside of apples control (no more mobile intel cpu upgrades and unified memory) the fact that you cant replace component which have a finite lifespan (batteries ssds) shows that appld doesnt care about the longevity of their devices shich makes me worry about retro apple stuff in 20 years, whats gonna be left?
@@jml2343 I’m pretty sure they could’ve designed all those things to be replaceable/upgradeable, they just didn’t want to. Hopefully there’ll just be laws obligating them to do the bare minimum as far as serviceability goes.
Yeah I still think it's shitty for both of those but at least there are some excuses for that, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to replace parts which have a limited lifespan
I hate the non-upgradeable storage. I was at a recycling center because I sell electronics (I'm in High School so that's my local business), and I found a 15 Inch 2019 MacBook Pro, instead of wiping the drive, they drilled through the right speaker into the SSD, which is Soldered on the Logic Board! A perfectly good computer ruined.
Usually that means whatever in there is confidential information that absolutely must not leak under any circumstances. Simply Wiping is not an option in that case, as data can still be recovered. There are programs that write garbage data to the SSD’s that prevent such a thing, but in this case it probably got destroyed because policies
@@schvabek I guess, but the SSD is literally part of the logic board, so if it was drilled, you would probably have to cut part of the logic board off and replace it.
The security argument with soldered drives is about Apple's financial security. It's a wearable component so sometime you'll have to pay Apple to repair or replace with a new computer. They can't have you replacing the drive yourself and using your computer too long without buying a newer model.
When they took physical media they said because it's cheaper digitally. It was the same price, though no manufacturing or shipping costs. When they took upgradeable parts they also said it's gonna be cheaper because it's easier to make. Guess what: somehow cheaper turned out to be more expensive. GG.
Thanks for this video which reminds me of my dead MacBook Pro aluminum 2007 which I bought it at a fortune but I love it simply because it’s upgrade ability and I had changed a few times on the battery, the memory modules and above all the SSD replacement was amazing. It lasted until 2020 when it finally died due to motherboard failure. That’s good technology which was from Steve Jobs’s era.
Great video. The sweet spot for me is the 2011 13 inch Unibody MacBook Pro, this is the most recent MacBook Pro that can still run Snow Leopard and my old copy of Photoshop CS3 loaded from physical discs. Memory and drives are easily replaced. The battery has two screws and one simple push connector, from 2013 they are glued in and the connectors get more and more complex for no apparent reason.
@@NickBaldwin-g3j Agreed, had the exact same model before getting the 2017 one. I was very happy with it, but unfortunately even with the maxed out memory and an SSD it was still showing its age by the end. As far as upgrade ability, serviceability and build quality, pretty awesome.
Good video, makes some trenchant points. Upgradable memory is a double-edged sword. On the one hand you lose the problem where the RAM slots go bad on certain Macs (I've seen it most on 2011 MacBook Pros, for some reason the top slot is more likely to break so add that to the GPU issues that year had). On the other you have a weird situation where I can max out the RAM in my 2018 Mac mini to 64GB DDR4 yet there is no Apple Silicon Mac mini which allows for that amount of RAM in any configuration, so I can't upgrade even if I wanted to which I wouldn't mind due to wanting faster renders in Final Cut as I use a lot of LUTs because I need the extra RAM for VMs and whatnot. CPU upgrades are useful, yes, and I've taken a few 20" 2007 iMacs from their regular C2D CPUs to Penryn class ones which support newer macOS versions via OCLP (Penryn is needed for basic Metal acceleration if I remember right), but I'm not gonna lie it was a ballache, and even swapping the HDD for an SSD and maxing out the RAM they're never going to be fast machines. I would argue they're not user-serviceable because although you don't need to reflow a new CPU onto the board there are a lot of wires and fans and an exposed PSU to deal with. I would argue that with battery replacements, they're not needed as much because Apple have for a long time used very well made lithium ion cells which last longer. Every time I see an rMBP which has had a battery swap it's almost always a cheapy third-party replacement which doesn't play well with the sensor inside so it sits on Service Recommended even from new, and the battery life of the replacement cells is significantly worse than official Apple ones regardless. Although changing the battery on MacBook Airs is a lot easier (most of them it's 10 screws for the bottom case, five for the battery) same deal, non-Apple cells just aren't as good. Until they were obsoleted out, Apple used to re-topcase older MacBooks for around £199 fully fitted which got you a new battery, keyboard, trackpad too which I actually consider a pretty good deal if you really wanted to keep your old MacBook going, so I'll give them a point for that. --- Overall I would say it's a mixed bag with modern Macs; they're faster, in many ways they're better, most of them are super reliable and will last longer than any other products in their class, so the lack of upgradeability isn't a problem for most users. Sure, it bothers me too, but I can see both sides of the argument, and I'd rather have a non-upgradable MacBook that'll last a decade or more than some horrible plastic gaming laptop which is flimsy from new and will break, piece by piece, as it runs hot all the time and everything fails on it, which I've seen happen before... even stuff like the keyboard, which on a MacBook you have to do something stupid like spill coffee on it to break.
Hey, thanks for sharing your thoughts! Although I have to say, I don’t think it has to be an either/or situation. I can’t see why we can’t have all of those things + the ability to upgrade. They go out of their way to engineer things around serviceability, where there’s really no reason to (batteries, storage, keyboards etc.) And if those batteries are awesome now, they’re not going to stay that way for 10 years, when I still might want to use my computer. Arguments like “slots break” don’t hold too much water in my view, because components that go in those slots fail as well. Again, I’d like to see both the computer be well built and powerful, but also to have that bare minimum ability to service it - battery, memory, storage, failing components (without serialising them).
Regarding right to repair, we can only hope on the European Union to change the laws. The US government and their legal system are in bed with the manufacturers. Not we the people.
@@phillippereira6468 I guess, but I see Right to repair also as a cultural movement, educating people and actively promoting the need to be able to fix/upgrade tech you buy.
@@Picker199 I’ve done plenty of videos on using older Macs, I’ve even used some for video editing. They’re pretty good, but I wouldn’t want to have to use them daily instead of my modern computers.
And as long as people keep buying their ever cut down products, Apple will continue to cut them down. Meanwhile, I can upgrade, repair or otherwise modify my Linux machine to my heart's content. The Apple side of the fence has always looked like dead grass to me.
reminding everyone that arm doesnt mean you need to have on die memory. its faster, but camm2 modules are pretty fast tbh and have similar to externally soldered ram. also there are now some companies that are making 3rd party flash modules (technically not ssds) for macs so there actually upgradable now for a cheaper price)
the IO is still not the best on the new macbooks, and even on the new mac minis. loss of usb a is fine but inconvenient and no sd card on macbook air is just a bit annoying.
I don’t know, I’ve upgraded from base model MacBook Pro 2017, which only had 2 thunderbolt ports, to an M1 Max MacBook, and I’m pretty happy with the IO. The only thing I really miss is USB-A. Even one port would’ve been awesome.
Having bought my first Apple II in 1979 (which I regret now ever having sold it) and owning a collection of old(er) Apple hardware I fully agree with with you. I would already be very pleased if we just could get the battery, the storage and RAM replaceable. Of course there is the Framework laptop that fulfills all those wishes but than it’s not an Apple hé.
I like to have a copy of macOS collection too something you can touch like snow leopard the legends eGPU return would be nice don't want to spend $5000 on a Mac that gets taken apart by a $1000 PC
TECHNICALLY you can upgrade Mac storage with the M series, using a 3rd company or being mega tech savvy and having a pro setup with a heat station and the ability to flash the NAND chips. But yh slapping in a new SSD in a mac doesn't happen now and that sucks as the easiest way to keep a computer going is storage and RAM. The thing is apple just want your money, and a non-repairable, non upgradable computer serves them and their desire for profit.
even the built in batteries take about 10-15 minutes at most to replace, and that includes watching the instructions and being very careful. cd or dvd discs were cumbersome to use, and it's great that storage prices are now cheap enough that we no longer need them. thanks for making the video, but i think most of these are non-issues, for the rest, good riddance.
Unfortunately, thats the future of computing, locked down, non upgradeable devices... And don't be surprised if in the future, the device is just a dumb terminal to a subscription based cloud computer
Yes, technology moves on and evolves. If you long for the past and want things how they used to be: get an old computer. Retro computing is fun! I have a couple of old Amigas and PCs for this purpose.
@@danielktdoranie it’s a bit of a different take. Some of these things should still definitely not be obsolete on modern macs. If you’ll watch the video, perhaps you’ll agree.
@@schvabek yes, technology should have never progrsesed. I honestly wish we were still using serial interfaces; there was nothing wrong with it. Thunderlighting of UBS or whatever it is a crime against comuting. We need to return to old specfications. We need to pair down our software to run on legacy hardware and we need to STOP the evolution of I/O standards including on the motherboards themselves. We need to tell our legilistation to STOP these companies from being greedy and hiding all their chips in smaller and smaller packages. lets go back to 42nm
Wrong. Framework exists and their laptops are 100% servicable and upgradable. Simple things like gluing the battery down, security screws and inaccessibility to parts is not "evolution"
....Melancholy ? I think the word you were looking for was "Nostalgia". Melancholy is sadness.... Nostalgia is more like bittersweet memories of past events. English can be weird...although both words have a Greek derivation......
Tim Cook is no visionary, he's a bean-counter. His prime directive is to commodify the Mac and make them all-but-disposable. They're not tools, they're just product. Use them for a couple years, till the battery or SSD goes bad, and throw it away. Awful.
Funnily enough, he probably did more for Apple as a company than any other CEO. People also forget all the flak Steve Jobs got about a million things as a CEO - removing floppy drives and optical drives, relying solely on USB, ditching the support for flash just to name a few. It’s fairly likely he would’ve done the same/perhaps even worse, although it’s hard to say.
thing is ,, they want to make money , 1 they need one less guy in the assembly line , 2 if something stop working , ram storage cpu , you just buy new computer or the entire mb that cost more than computer , or yeah you want more storage or more ram ,, just pay more when you buy it , and you are suppose to buy a new computer /phone .every year or too ,, this is why they give you only one year of warranty , product is suppose to last one year , and soon they will add a subscription after the furst year ,,
To be honest that’s why I don’t buy newer iMacs anymore I still have my mid 2011 iMac and the screen and speeds keep up with todays computers still since it was upgrade able. They are developing ssd for Mac mini and Mac Studio. Once they’re more mainstream I may upgrade but honestly apple software is pretty boring now windows is much more exciting. Apple became anti consumer so I’ll only buy second hand and eventually when it hits their profits they will be forced to innovate or bring back old features. Like hdmi and sd card slot they brought back cause people stopped buying new.
tl:dw apple no longer offers upgradable or repairable products. Apple has a habit of removing peripherals such as CD/DVD drives, and other types of legacy media. All hardware focused. there is nothing new here. Touches briefly on software only in terms of being unable to install without a CD-ROM drive. Also derides dongles and adapters, doesn't like new hardware interfaces. overall, a overly nostalgia ridden overview of deprechiated hardware features, Schvabek would rather apple products be full of hardware bloat to support legacy media and parihparals. missed oppertunity to discuss the nature of software obseolence within apple's eithos, as it's argueably more damaging. see 32bit support, overll mac os version regulation when it comes to how apps want to run. Legacy software like final cut express of logic pro 9 being made to work on modern machines, etc also; he claims that blue-ray is still being made, but sony has recently annouced that they have ceased all production on blue ray disks. not worth the wait for the premiere.
@@Flutterwhat not sure why you bothered writing such a lengthy comments then, if you didn’t watch the video. Also, Blu Ray discs are indeed still being made. If I’m not mistaken, Sony announced they’d be discontinuing the production of recordable media (BD-R), but movies/games are still being released on them, obviously.
The saddest things is, this is not a brand issue, it is ubiquitous to all brands, cars and electronics. Nothing is upgradeable or repairable now.
@@sebbyteh9203 hopefully that’s something that can eventually be forced upon through legislation
The next best thing is supporting companies that go out of their way to make their hardware repairable, like Framework
@@schvabek unfortunately, we are the ones who asked for these, just look at Macbook Air's sales and how every PC manufacturers copy Apple.
thinkpad t14 gen 5 is the first true upgradable thinkpad in years
@@UndeadSoldier32 Framework are mega important, and I think have lowkey driven bigger companies to look at their practices. Dell have recently with their rebrand added in more repairability/upgradability on their laptops and I can't help but think thats not a coincidence seeing how successful framework have been.
The way Apple has been going for the last 10-12 years is proof that they _hate_ computer users. They, however, _love_ *consoomers* who just shut up and buy the new shiny every 18 months. I guarantee if they could figure out how to get audio and video, keyboard and mouse, and Power & network in and out of a solid block of cast aluminum, with no way to open it whatsoever, that's what they'd be selling people (with an Apple logo on it of course).
Agreed. However, they are clearly capable of “listening” to their audience (or just realising they’d lose significant market share over it), since they’ve brought back ports/upgradable storage/affordable computers, so perhaps they do get their act together in years to come. Or not.
Yeah, but people would still buy it. Remember that this is the same society that is addicted to rotten grapes, grain and smoking sticks. Getting people addicted with software magic is even easier.
I'll not ever understand how people allow these companies to hold them by their balls with the Adobe creative suite, the Apple "ecosystem" and whatever the next thing is. To the point where they'll pay a 2x premium and deal with awful design choices just to have it.
@masterkamen371 Well with things like the adobe suite, its ironically because they get features way ahead of the curve. For a lot of people, from a business standpoint. Do you really want to use software that has features 4-5 years outdated, or do you want to use the new thing that will attract customers?
Adobe lightroom for example, now has proper HDR and gain map support, gain maps which were adopted by both apple and google. However, they are the only photo editor that happens to support both 10 bit PQ HDR with SDR gain maps. Good luck finding that anywhere else.
No, they don't *hate* computer users, I think that's exaggerating. Apple Silicon Macs are a lot faster for regular low power office work and also heavier stuff like editing RAW photos, big multitrack music mixes and doing high quality video rendering, and use less power than an Intel machine when doing it, less noise. If you're doing creative work they're a step up. If they hated power users would they bother making tailored ARM chips which support that? No, they wouldn't.
What they do want is to extract the maximum amount of money from anyone so they can continue to grow as a business, hence right to repair being such a huge thing to lobby for as replacing the screen on older (including Retina era by the way) Intel MacBooks is trivial because they're not keyed to the logic board like new ones which don't work properly without micro soldering movement of old screen ICs to the new screen board. iPhones obviously share this sort of trait.
The thing is, in the majority of cases their machines are well-built and if they're not violently mistreated, will stand the test of time and survive longer than most other products in their class. Example, I'm writing this on a 2015 rMBP which saw heavy use by a video editor before I got it, it's still going strong although it has had a new top case as the old chassis was pretty ruined, so a new battery/keyboard/touchpad/speakers was cheap to do and gave it a new lease on life. The Apple Silicon stuff, some SSD shorting issues aside as Louis Rossman made videos on, is incredibly well made and will last. If you get one used and in nearly new condition you beat the Apple tax, take care of it and you'll easily get 5-10 years heavy use out of it, same as my rMBP here, except better because the M1 Pro/M1 Max are still highly capable machines, run cooler, have better battery life and don't sound like a jet engine when you're rendering video 😂
@ I never understood comments like this. All of those things can still be true with them also conforming to a service-friendly design (removable storage/memory, easily replaceable batteries and other components). One does not exclude the other. No one said their notebooks are not powerful/can’t last a long time.
I remember my cousin being very upset when buying a new mac just for it to be non upgradeable.
@@BrainDamageIV Oh yeah? What model was it? I remember opening up my friend’s MacBook Air which I’ve promised to upgrade the memory on with sticks on hand, in shock that there were no slots to install them in lol
@@schvabek I expect as a tinkerer you're fully aware of this, but there'd be no space in an Air chassis of any year to fit RAM slots. AFAIK Air models always had SMD RAM for this reason. At least on most Airs (not the Intel Retina ones I think) the SSD is upgradeable and you can use NVMe SSDs as the bus for the SSD slot is often PCIe x4 I believe.
@@garydiamondguitarist So make it how many millimetres it takes thicker. Or put the slots in the Pro models, so those who need to upgrade somewhere down the line can.
There is something wrong with the world if you can buy a new DVD of a recently released movie cheaper than renting it on stream.
I don’t think you can get new releases on DVD, at least not here where I am.
@@schvabekyou can in the US and Canada, dunno who actually buys them though
Just had my G4 on the web today. That baby is still rocking. Keep these old guys alive as long as possible. SSD storage, max the RAM out with a light overclock and she gets some new life breathed into her.
Is it your work computer(not recommended as new software doesn’t work with power pcs)
Or like a personal computer(computer not ment for work and mostly for browsing the web)
@@hiroshifox9020 Did a video on G4’s not too long ago. I didn’t have too good of a time taking them online, but they weren’t fully maxed out/overclocked or anything.
@rexqouia14 depending on where you work powerpc could still be the arch of choice.
industrial equipment inertia is insane
@@rigen97 oh for sure, I still know of a machine factory nearby that uses 386/486 computers with some custom software. Also it wasn’t too long ago I saw a computer operated crane running on a C64.
@rexqouia14 All it was meant for was just to run some old games and software. The original owner was just going to throw it out at their shop but I saved it from the trash and fixed it up. I just like the idea of trying to keep older machines alive and find something they can do. Heck my daily driver PC is going on 15 years old and gets used every day.
Things I miss: Target Disk Mode. OS X Server. And yes, the only Mac I ever bought new was a plastic MacBook (also the only laptop I've ever bought myself) and it was an amazing, flexible, affordable machine.
@@matthewkriebel7342 I’d love to get my hands on some XServe machines, I’d love to play around with them.
Target Disk Mode helped me salvage my data when my G5 Power Mac's motherboard failed. And I, too, used a MacBook to grab the data.
That’s why i use a mid 2012 macbook pro, since i live in Brazil and macs are just abnormally expensive, with this one i can just replace it’s parts like the memory, battery and the ssd, or even the disk drive or anthenna. But not only that, even though it’s old (almost 13 years), it’s an extremely well crafted machine, with an excellent keyboard (backlit) and touchpad, that no other cheap windows laptop in the brazilian market can compete.
@@matthewalonetv I agree, I’ve used a 2011 MacBook Pro for a long time, but unfortunately there’s little you can do about that ancient i5/i7 processor, as there’s no way to upgrade it.
The reason NVIDIA and apple not coming together anymore was not a remaining anger or so, but failed negotiations later about NVIDIA supporting the Metal framework. NVIDIA was most likely afraid as soon as Metal got enough established, Apple would dump them and make their own GPU's, AMD though jumped into that hole, but they indeed got dumped as soon as Apple started making their own iGPU's.
@@vanCaldenborgh Sure, but like I’ve said, nothing technically preventing them theoretically supporting their graphics cards on something like a Mac Pro.
15:53 back in the old days when you could sneak a mac mini remote into classes and get random macbooks to start playing music lol
@@AndrewTheRadarMan We never had Macs in our classes, but that must’ve been fun 🤟
I loved my old white 2006 iMac, with the little white remote that was held on the side of the iMac by a magnet
@@munocat back when monitors actually had a side you could stick things to 😂
It's still crap that they don't even offer optical to systems today...
Not that many people want them, but I don’t really know why they don’t have an update external SuperDrive
I miss when their designs werefun. The original iBook with the carry handle, the G3/G4 towers, the "sunflower" iMac G4, the original iMac with the different fruit colors... now everything Apple makes is just a super minimal aluminum block. At best you have a choice of colors and the colors are just, like, gray, dark gray, and slightly warm gray.
Even the Titanium PowerBooks (the original gray-on-gray Macs) at least had a little fun, with the glow-through Apple logo that was lit up by the display. It was completely aesthetic and served no function, but at least it was fun.
@@fluffycritter agreed, did a video on the iMac G4, pretty much with the same idea about the design.
change the battery of a macbook air 2015 you open the cover 6 screws a connector and it's good Now you have to disassemble 50% of the Mac to access the battery, they do it on purpose
I really don’t understand why. I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw you had to take out the trackpad in order to change your battery. Ridiculous
I'm not buying another mac that does not have removable, upgradable storage. I'm moving my main development to linux.
Probably for the better man
The terrifying trend is not just away from owner repair and owner upgrade, but away from ownership altogether. We buy a thing with certain capabilities and specs, and later the manufacturer sends an "update" that nerfs it or bricks it until we agree to pay more. They tell us we agreed to that when we originally bought the thing because it was in the contract, buried on page 17. It's not just Apple doing this. Fortunately, there is a powerful, growing movement among consumer groups to stop these nefarious practices.
Yeah, it gives me the chills when I see footage of those new fancy cars, with an error message saying the thing has to be taken to the dealership, and it won’t start. Yikes.
@@schvabek which is why i will continue using my 2010 car till the bitter end! i miss when new computers came with manual, dvd etc. The Imac i got was an early 2011 model. The last to have Snow Leopard Mac OS X 10.6.X. As well as a OS install DVD and application DVD. You got 2 DVDs stickers manual. Sleek box. Then i believe Lion came out after, and it was a download through Apple store. This was a fast computer. Booted up in seconds. Easy to upgrade ram. No glued in or soldiered nonsense. All screws. Loved this computer. If they made an Imac like this again, i would get out my credit card and purchase one. But i don't think that will ever happen again, especially not in the world we live in today. I thank you for this video. Let me know, it probably will never happen, if a new Imac being sold today will ever be like the ones they manufactured in the past. Cheers!
And i forgot to mention, I miss all the ports that were available.
@@Brian-h3q hey, Brian, thanks for the nice comment! Still driving a 2009 Hyundai lol. I’ll let you know if they ever bring back memory/storage upgrades 😂
@@schvabek Oh that's a sweet vehicle! and thank you for letting me know, if they do return back to the way they built computers, like they did.😂 and i just remembered, it was Snow Leopard Mac OS X version 10.6.6 that was on DVD, that came with my early 2011 Imac. 10.6.8 was the last which was got from Apple update. weird how i can remember that! maybe cause i liked the computer so much. 😎
Mac mini m4 has upgradable storage technically
@@elwinroyale Sure, great. MacBooks don’t. iMac doesn’t. Mac Pro doesn’t.
One interesting long lost Mac feature is video capture! Maybe this is a relic of the time when TV tuners were popular, but many 1990s Macs, up to the G3 era, could include TV tuners and video capture. The G3 was even fast enough to capture footage onto a hard drive in real time while using the video capture - great for games.
I think the rise of cable TV also fastened the tuner’s death. They went strong for far more in developing countries however.
Huh, never thought about that as an Apple feature, though I do have some capture cards. I’m pretty sure they are all third party ones though
@schvabek Other machines certainly had it. You could buy one for a PC easily and some UNIX boxes even had options for it. Silicon Graphics was a big fan of video capture and output, probably because it was good for outputting graphics overlays to analog tape and doing multimedia work (see how your things look on an actual TV etc). I mention it as an Apple thing because they seemed to push it quite hard for multimedia and many systems came with one preconfigured.
I never had an Apple product, but I still miss the 2000s and early 2010s upgradability of pretty much everything computer. Desktops, laptops, all-in-ones, they were all upgradable.
@@elu9780 Absolutely, unfortunately Apple isn’t the only manufacturer pulling this crap with soldering down the components etc.
@@schvabek even finding laptops with two RAM slots is difficult. Replaceable CPUs? Forget about that. Maybe you can get a replaceable GPU if you're lucky to get a MXM slot. Which I was actually surprised to learn about, I thought MXM pretty much died a couple of generations ago. However, there *are* laptops with that slot that have RTX 4000 series, so it's chugging along.
here I am, watching down on this video from my trusty Thinkpad, typing on this lovey keyboard
Oh cool, what model do you have?
@@schvabek E14 Gen5 (AMD). not exactly a classic
Unfortunate that these components get removed, get screwed in, have a cable now or get soldered. The best Macbooks are the older models, specifically the 2008-2012 ones.
For upgrade ability, sure. They had their issues too.
Regarding the entry level point, they kinda do. It's just they switched to the iPhone strategy of continuing to make models as their budget model instead of explicitly selling a purpose made budget one which arguably is the better move since you get better, higher quality parts since it was originally a $1000+ machine.
They still make brand new M1 MacBook Airs (sold exclusively through retailers like Walmart and Best Buy as part of a partnership) for $699
Not every country has a Walmart 🤷♂️
The last upgrade I did was our 2011 iMac. I installed a metal graphics card. It’s doable, but a bit involved.
Yeah, I saw, looks like it sucks. But at least you can do it.
"Early Macs are badder with a bad medal baddery in modern boddom".
Is that a reference to something?
@@schvabek To English.
The thing I miss the most is the notch-less displays on the MacBooks. In fact, I’m holding off on buying a MBP for this reason
Meh, whatever, that’s the least of my worries with their notebooks.
I was a Mac user for a while. Then the war with NVidia and the 2013 Mac Pro left me high and dry so I left. As for the non-upgradability issue, I just got a Framework 13 laptop. Everything in that thing can be replaced or upgraded by the end user. Love it.
@@Deinonuchus Framework is great. Still too pricey for my liking, but great nonetheless.
While i understand some of these removals were for reasons oitoside of apples control (no more mobile intel cpu upgrades and unified memory) the fact that you cant replace component which have a finite lifespan (batteries ssds) shows that appld doesnt care about the longevity of their devices shich makes me worry about retro apple stuff in 20 years, whats gonna be left?
@@jml2343 I’m pretty sure they could’ve designed all those things to be replaceable/upgradeable, they just didn’t want to. Hopefully there’ll just be laws obligating them to do the bare minimum as far as serviceability goes.
A lot will be left as long as people care about their stuff. Not to mention, older macbooks would still be an option
Yeah I still think it's shitty for both of those but at least there are some excuses for that, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to replace parts which have a limited lifespan
SSDs do not have a limited lifespan.
@@jansix4287 yes they do
I just got an apple ad on this video. How ironic
@finnbianga4189 Better than a trading ad I guess 😂
I hate the non-upgradeable storage. I was at a recycling center because I sell electronics (I'm in High School so that's my local business), and I found a 15 Inch 2019 MacBook Pro, instead of wiping the drive, they drilled through the right speaker into the SSD, which is Soldered on the Logic Board! A perfectly good computer ruined.
Usually that means whatever in there is confidential information that absolutely must not leak under any circumstances. Simply Wiping is not an option in that case, as data can still be recovered. There are programs that write garbage data to the SSD’s that prevent such a thing, but in this case it probably got destroyed because policies
Still could be worths hundreds in parts.
@@schvabek I sold it with a lot of other parts Macs. Total of $250 for 9 laptops. Most were very old though.
@@adamtheminecrafter7877 would be an interesting thing to try to revive. With all those wizards doing flash chip repairs.
@@schvabek I guess, but the SSD is literally part of the logic board, so if it was drilled, you would probably have to cut part of the logic board off and replace it.
The security argument with soldered drives is about Apple's financial security. It's a wearable component so sometime you'll have to pay Apple to repair or replace with a new computer. They can't have you replacing the drive yourself and using your computer too long without buying a newer model.
@@timecage also, instead of upgrading your storage, just buy iCloud
It's time to quit computers and probably phones too
Not really
Why did you click to build the SCV? Just use the keyboard...
Man, the things people complain about in the comments 😂
When they took physical media they said because it's cheaper digitally. It was the same price, though no manufacturing or shipping costs.
When they took upgradeable parts they also said it's gonna be cheaper because it's easier to make. Guess what: somehow cheaper turned out to be more expensive.
GG.
@@iNdepDev I’d always buy all my physical software second hand for fraction of the cost (back when it wasn’t tied to a cloud account or whatever).
Thanks for this video which reminds me of my dead MacBook Pro aluminum 2007 which I bought it at a fortune but I love it simply because it’s upgrade ability and I had changed a few times on the battery, the memory modules and above all the SSD replacement was amazing. It lasted until 2020 when it finally died due to motherboard failure. That’s good technology which was from Steve Jobs’s era.
Glad you like the video! I also had the 2007 model back in the day. Still going to this day.
Great video. The sweet spot for me is the 2011 13 inch Unibody MacBook Pro, this is the most recent MacBook Pro that can still run Snow Leopard and my old copy of Photoshop CS3 loaded from physical discs.
Memory and drives are easily replaced. The battery has two screws and one simple push connector, from 2013 they are glued in and the connectors get more and more complex for no apparent reason.
@@NickBaldwin-g3j Agreed, had the exact same model before getting the 2017 one. I was very happy with it, but unfortunately even with the maxed out memory and an SSD it was still showing its age by the end. As far as upgrade ability, serviceability and build quality, pretty awesome.
Being able to swap the SSD in an M4 Mac mini is all the upgradability I need.
@@jansix4287 That’s definitely a step in the right direction. It’d be nice to be able to add memory too at least.
i think companies like apple dont understand that everything will fail given enough time so it needs to be replacable
@waldfruchttee oh they do understand that of course
They need it to break just in time for you to get the new shiny one
RIP Front Row and widgets.
@@kylehazachode felt like the future back in 2006.
Good video, makes some trenchant points.
Upgradable memory is a double-edged sword. On the one hand you lose the problem where the RAM slots go bad on certain Macs (I've seen it most on 2011 MacBook Pros, for some reason the top slot is more likely to break so add that to the GPU issues that year had). On the other you have a weird situation where I can max out the RAM in my 2018 Mac mini to 64GB DDR4 yet there is no Apple Silicon Mac mini which allows for that amount of RAM in any configuration, so I can't upgrade even if I wanted to which I wouldn't mind due to wanting faster renders in Final Cut as I use a lot of LUTs because I need the extra RAM for VMs and whatnot.
CPU upgrades are useful, yes, and I've taken a few 20" 2007 iMacs from their regular C2D CPUs to Penryn class ones which support newer macOS versions via OCLP (Penryn is needed for basic Metal acceleration if I remember right), but I'm not gonna lie it was a ballache, and even swapping the HDD for an SSD and maxing out the RAM they're never going to be fast machines. I would argue they're not user-serviceable because although you don't need to reflow a new CPU onto the board there are a lot of wires and fans and an exposed PSU to deal with.
I would argue that with battery replacements, they're not needed as much because Apple have for a long time used very well made lithium ion cells which last longer. Every time I see an rMBP which has had a battery swap it's almost always a cheapy third-party replacement which doesn't play well with the sensor inside so it sits on Service Recommended even from new, and the battery life of the replacement cells is significantly worse than official Apple ones regardless. Although changing the battery on MacBook Airs is a lot easier (most of them it's 10 screws for the bottom case, five for the battery) same deal, non-Apple cells just aren't as good. Until they were obsoleted out, Apple used to re-topcase older MacBooks for around £199 fully fitted which got you a new battery, keyboard, trackpad too which I actually consider a pretty good deal if you really wanted to keep your old MacBook going, so I'll give them a point for that.
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Overall I would say it's a mixed bag with modern Macs; they're faster, in many ways they're better, most of them are super reliable and will last longer than any other products in their class, so the lack of upgradeability isn't a problem for most users. Sure, it bothers me too, but I can see both sides of the argument, and I'd rather have a non-upgradable MacBook that'll last a decade or more than some horrible plastic gaming laptop which is flimsy from new and will break, piece by piece, as it runs hot all the time and everything fails on it, which I've seen happen before... even stuff like the keyboard, which on a MacBook you have to do something stupid like spill coffee on it to break.
Hey, thanks for sharing your thoughts! Although I have to say, I don’t think it has to be an either/or situation. I can’t see why we can’t have all of those things + the ability to upgrade.
They go out of their way to engineer things around serviceability, where there’s really no reason to (batteries, storage, keyboards etc.) And if those batteries are awesome now, they’re not going to stay that way for 10 years, when I still might want to use my computer.
Arguments like “slots break” don’t hold too much water in my view, because components that go in those slots fail as well.
Again, I’d like to see both the computer be well built and powerful, but also to have that bare minimum ability to service it - battery, memory, storage, failing components (without serialising them).
All of these removed because greed. Simple as that.
@@michaelangeloabarreto4588 yeah, Apple has ridiculous margins on their memory and storage.
iMac CPUs were also upgradable.
Yep, I’ve said it in the video. Didn’t feel like taking one apart.
I've read the title as "10 Things We've Lost on Mars" and was very confused when you started talking about apple.
lol. Hopefully you still enjoyed it.
Regarding right to repair, we can only hope on the European Union to change the laws. The US government and their legal system are in bed with the manufacturers. Not we the people.
@@phillippereira6468 I guess, but I see Right to repair also as a cultural movement, educating people and actively promoting the need to be able to fix/upgrade tech you buy.
i have not watched full video now i am at 1:18 but sound like crying while recording the voice over
am i onto something or nothing
lol, that’s actually not the first time someone say that on YT 😂 It’s just the way I sound I guess. No tears man 😂
Aye! I have the same MacBook Pro 15"! Mines also has a line down the Apple logo, any idea what that is?
@@ThatIceChampion hey, actually no idea 😂 I’ve gotten two of them like that, always wondered what caused it
@ oh lol, yeah mines shows no signs of life other than the green MagSafe light. Are those fast?
I really miss the possibilitie to easyly exchange ssd
@@Clickworker101 Oh yeah. Even the M.2 ones. It’s a shame it’s become like a “feature” people lust after. Ridiculous.
@ I always had a clone ssd for when I crashed the system. So easy to just swap it and boot from the backup
My macbook white 2009 can use lite daily
@@Picker199 I’ve done plenty of videos on using older Macs, I’ve even used some for video editing. They’re pretty good, but I wouldn’t want to have to use them daily instead of my modern computers.
i miss being able to disable background services
Oh yeah, and doing updates at your own pace offline
And as long as people keep buying their ever cut down products, Apple will continue to cut them down.
Meanwhile, I can upgrade, repair or otherwise modify my Linux machine to my heart's content. The Apple side of the fence has always looked like dead grass to me.
They are not bad products, but if you are happy with your non-Apple machine, I see no reason to switch.
Scroll back up to to the video and finish watching before you comment. I'm seeing way too much nonsense and shilling coming from y'all.
@@heroninja1125 nah, it’s all good 👍
Shishh Samsung 204UI - those things were so tempting 2TeraB. I got only 1TB F3 i guess.
@@ran2wild370 Yeah, too bad it died on me
@@schvabek I bought 103F2orF3 I don't remember in 2008 and sold in 2015 :-))
@@ran2wild370 I found hard drives are really hit or miss. I have some that are 30-40 years old, still work fine. Some have died after 5-10 years.
@ WD (scorpio?) Blue 2.5"/640GB - since 2011 :-) 90.000hours. Probably 2 bad clusters, but not certain about that.
@ awesome. Hope it keeps ticking.
upgrading ram with imac 27 was a fun time
I loved the early aluminium iMacs, with their little chin-RAM. Awesome.
reminding everyone that arm doesnt mean you need to have on die memory. its faster, but camm2 modules are pretty fast tbh and have similar to externally soldered ram.
also there are now some companies that are making 3rd party flash modules (technically not ssds) for macs so there actually upgradable now for a cheaper price)
@@gamagama69 Well M4 Mac Minis reintroduced removable storage, so hopefully we continue to see them moving in that direction.
Good Rant...
@@mikepxg6406 thanks! 🤟
the IO is still not the best on the new macbooks, and even on the new mac minis. loss of usb a is fine but inconvenient and no sd card on macbook air is just a bit annoying.
I don’t know, I’ve upgraded from base model MacBook Pro 2017, which only had 2 thunderbolt ports, to an M1 Max MacBook, and I’m pretty happy with the IO. The only thing I really miss is USB-A. Even one port would’ve been awesome.
Having bought my first Apple II in 1979 (which I regret now ever having sold it) and owning a collection of old(er) Apple hardware I fully agree with with you. I would already be very pleased if we just could get the battery, the storage and RAM replaceable. Of course there is the Framework laptop that fulfills all those wishes but than it’s not an Apple hé.
Hey, thanks so much! Yeah, framework is awesome, but a bit too pricey for my liking.
I like to have a copy of macOS collection too something you can touch like snow leopard the legends
eGPU return would be nice don't want to spend $5000 on a Mac that gets taken apart by a $1000 PC
@@TechGameDev yeah, eGPUs are just way too expensive at this point, but hey, they might come down in price in upcoming years.
Facts
@@login415 🤟
TECHNICALLY you can upgrade Mac storage with the M series, using a 3rd company or being mega tech savvy and having a pro setup with a heat station and the ability to flash the NAND chips. But yh slapping in a new SSD in a mac doesn't happen now and that sucks as the easiest way to keep a computer going is storage and RAM. The thing is apple just want your money, and a non-repairable, non upgradable computer serves them and their desire for profit.
even the built in batteries take about 10-15 minutes at most to replace, and that includes watching the instructions and being very careful. cd or dvd discs were cumbersome to use, and it's great that storage prices are now cheap enough that we no longer need them. thanks for making the video, but i think most of these are non-issues, for the rest, good riddance.
You clearly didn’t try changing out batteries on newer MacBooks man.
Unfortunately, thats the future of computing, locked down, non upgradeable devices... And don't be surprised if in the future, the device is just a dumb terminal to a subscription based cloud computer
@@lopeo2324 not really worried about that. There are always manufacturers who do what others don’t. Framework is one example. It’s a free market.
Yes, technology moves on and evolves. If you long for the past and want things how they used to be: get an old computer. Retro computing is fun! I have a couple of old Amigas and PCs for this purpose.
@@danielktdoranie it’s a bit of a different take. Some of these things should still definitely not be obsolete on modern macs. If you’ll watch the video, perhaps you’ll agree.
@@schvabek yes, technology should have never progrsesed. I honestly wish we were still using serial interfaces; there was nothing wrong with it. Thunderlighting of UBS or whatever it is a crime against comuting. We need to return to old specfications. We need to pair down our software to run on legacy hardware and we need to STOP the evolution of I/O standards including on the motherboards themselves. We need to tell our legilistation to STOP these companies from being greedy and hiding all their chips in smaller and smaller packages. lets go back to 42nm
I disagree. Technology moves on, but it definitely doesn't really evolve. Look at Windows 11. Enough said.
Wrong. Framework exists and their laptops are 100% servicable and upgradable. Simple things like gluing the battery down, security screws and inaccessibility to parts is not "evolution"
this isn't evolution, it's devolution
RAM and SSDs should always be replaceable and upgradable.
@@zerocooler7 🤟
And batteries, too.
I see discussion of right to repair, I upvote :)
Thanks man 🤟
....Melancholy ? I think the word you were looking for was "Nostalgia". Melancholy is sadness.... Nostalgia is more like bittersweet memories of past events. English can be weird...although both words have a Greek derivation......
@@goobfilmcast4239 yeah, no, melancholy is the word I wanted to use 🤷♂️
Tim Cook is no visionary, he's a bean-counter. His prime directive is to commodify the Mac and make them all-but-disposable. They're not tools, they're just product. Use them for a couple years, till the battery or SSD goes bad, and throw it away. Awful.
Funnily enough, he probably did more for Apple as a company than any other CEO. People also forget all the flak Steve Jobs got about a million things as a CEO - removing floppy drives and optical drives, relying solely on USB, ditching the support for flash just to name a few. It’s fairly likely he would’ve done the same/perhaps even worse, although it’s hard to say.
thing is ,, they want to make money , 1 they need one less guy in the assembly line , 2 if something stop working , ram storage cpu , you just buy new computer or the entire mb that cost more than computer , or yeah you want more storage or more ram ,, just pay more when you buy it , and you are suppose to buy a new computer /phone .every year or too ,, this is why they give you only one year of warranty , product is suppose to last one year , and soon they will add a subscription after the furst year ,,
To be honest that’s why I don’t buy newer iMacs anymore I still have my mid 2011 iMac and the screen and speeds keep up with todays computers still since it was upgrade able. They are developing ssd for Mac mini and Mac Studio. Once they’re more mainstream I may upgrade but honestly apple software is pretty boring now windows is much more exciting. Apple became anti consumer so I’ll only buy second hand and eventually when it hits their profits they will be forced to innovate or bring back old features. Like hdmi and sd card slot they brought back cause people stopped buying new.
Yep, never bought any of their products new.
And yet, people buy
@@TerrorSyxke it’s surprising how few people actually care about all those things (in consumer market)
Soul
@@bolm1 🤟
no apple or mac only dos windows and linux sir
@@DimasFajar-ns4vb Wow, still use DOS?
@schvabek no windows in mid 90s in junior high school computer lab
And yet you keep buying this trash so nothing is gonna change. Grow up and get a normal PC.
@@led-0185 Did a video on how I got my macs. I’d buy 10 of them at that price, even with all the faults they might have. Totally worth it.
tl:dw apple no longer offers upgradable or repairable products. Apple has a habit of removing peripherals such as CD/DVD drives, and other types of legacy media. All hardware focused. there is nothing new here. Touches briefly on software only in terms of being unable to install without a CD-ROM drive. Also derides dongles and adapters, doesn't like new hardware interfaces.
overall, a overly nostalgia ridden overview of deprechiated hardware features, Schvabek would rather apple products be full of hardware bloat to support legacy media and parihparals.
missed oppertunity to discuss the nature of software obseolence within apple's eithos, as it's argueably more damaging. see 32bit support, overll mac os version regulation when it comes to how apps want to run. Legacy software like final cut express of logic pro 9 being made to work on modern machines, etc
also; he claims that blue-ray is still being made, but sony has recently annouced that they have ceased all production on blue ray disks.
not worth the wait for the premiere.
@@Flutterwhat not sure why you bothered writing such a lengthy comments then, if you didn’t watch the video. Also, Blu Ray discs are indeed still being made. If I’m not mistaken, Sony announced they’d be discontinuing the production of recordable media (BD-R), but movies/games are still being released on them, obviously.
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Well thanks 😂
@@schvabek it is very good for me
@ thanks!
I am so sad hearing my thoughts from someone i would like to know.
Join our Discord server man if you’d like to get acquainted, lots of interesting folks there too! 🤟
@ i shall certainly do.
@ thanks for the kind invitation