Love Matt’s design insights. Always a pleasure to hear him talk shop with because he’s such a master craftsman and knows not only what works, but more importantly WHY it works.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 they way he explains how rocker curve and outline curve work together is so fundamental, yet so few shapers seem to understand it thoroughly. Or if they do, they can’t articulate it like he can.
I don't have the resources to do this but maybe one day in the future you could. Take a stock range board say, 5'6 and show the 5' 9, 6 2, 6'5 etc versions and demonstrate how the length effects the surfing.
Between this new PJ sting (black sheep) vs. Rocket Wide (spinetek). Vs. RNF 96 (black sheep) what is your ultimate groveler for Lowers, Church, Uppers, HB waves? I’m a front footer. ( btw, you look so explosive on the Rocket Wide) I have been a big fan of yours and your epic reviews. Your reviews had made me buy some of my favorite all time boards. I have a puddle jumper HP epoxy and love it but it’s time to buy a new groveler. Keep the good work Noel, we are here cheering for you.
Cheers for the kind words. Since you’re a front footed surfer I say RNF 96. In smaller surf you can shred it as a pure Twin fin with my HP Twins… next level fun. To ride the 96 as a daily driver in 3-6’ surf you will love it with my Pivot Twins + Trailer
Just took my board out for 1st session ( lightspeed sting) Fast n responsive Turned sharp Wasn’t ready for the speed 1st run Setup as thruster think I’m gonna keep it so far I liked it just gotta manage
Awesome video, board looks a blast! I know you may not have had a chance to compare in this video, but wondering how you like the black sheep construction compared to the lightspeed or if they are about the same. Thanks again!
It seems like almost everytime I watch one of these somehow my bank balance drops about 700 bucks, that thing looks sick...I had been eyeing them & have seen them in the line up but to see you rip on it gets me stoked
Just bought the 6’0 Puddle Jumper Pro and it's a super rad board. It's my first board adding the over 40's and managing injuries volume and it does an incredible job of hiding the volume. for the 1-3 ft days I am debating between the original puddle jumper, puddle jumper HP and the Puddle Jumper Sting. I tried the seaside and just felt the board wanted to flatten out on turns and could not get the rails to sit down. Coming from more traditional shortboards I struggled with it. Curious what you think is the best for for getting up into the pocket.
Good comparison… the WT might have a little more down the line speed. The PJS offers excellent drive through turns with a Quad setup and gets into the lip quicker
Wow this boards looks really fun for mushy socal. I looked around online and haven't seen much about it. I'm looking for a new quad socal groveler. I was deciding between this, OG puddle jumper with a squash, JS flame fish, and the bobby quad. Would this be one your top groveler picks?
Hey Noel, I've been jonesing for a Lost Hydra since your review for the smaller or average days on the US East coast. How does the PJ Sting compare? Thanks for the great videos.
Awesome show, would love to see more of these videos with the shapers on specific designs. Hey Noel, i'm tossing up between getting a Pyzel Astropop or a Lost RNF 96, what would you say were the biggest stand out differences between these two? Keep up all the awesome work, loving this channel! Cheers!
@@FrancoCellio Get my 5 fin set… next level in all boards. Here is the link… nothing out there like my fins. surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
Hello! Great demo and review! Would you recommend it for an upper end beginner for Mediterranean waves (Italy)? Small rides mostly close-outs, on-shore winds, choppy conditions. I'm 75kg(165lbs) with wetsuit and 180cm(5'11") height. I'm torn between Lost PJ, Lost Hydra, FireWire Sweet Potato and FW Mashup. Thanksss
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thank you very much! I will check it out! Are there any drawbacks of the PU technology compared to Epoxy in terms of durability?
Would you choose the puddle jumper sting or rocket wide for SoCal knee to chest high days? I keep going back and forth between those two for a small wave performance board/ groveler. I am 6’3, 190lbs and I currently have a 6’0 S Boss which I really like for stomach to head high waves with some push so I want something for the smaller/ slightly weaker days.
How much of a difference do you think there is between this and the lost x libtech puddle jumper? My old 5'3" libtech pj had a wing just behind the front fin boxes. This looks very similar only the wing is in front of the boxes, just wondering how much this changes the feel of the board. Thanks for a solid vid as always.
I just bought this board and like it so far, very quick turning but im having an issue getting drive from the board, I've ridden it as a quad with the futures F8 LEGACY QUADS and it just seems to be to squirrely and i cant get it going. Any fin recommendations to remedy this? I've got a custom 5'4 around 31 liters and im 178 LBS
Hi. I am looking a small wave board for compliment my quiver (S Boss and DHD Eclipse) but I am undecided between some boards.... Mashup, RNF96, Storms TT White tiger and PJ Sting? What's your recommendation? Thanks so much
The PJ Sting is super fun!! If the waves are 1-3’ and mushy then go White Tiger or PJ Sting. If the waves are 1-4’ with a bit of push then go 96 or Twin Turbo
Thank you so much for taking time out your day to reply I appreciated that! Keep them coming you do a great job for us who aren’t as knowledgeable especially with fins lol
How would you size this one Noel? I was riding a 5.5 ultra joe 28ish liters and it was my favorite board would I aim for about the same with this board?
The fcs reactors you said go with medium rear quad they sell them in performance core. The front fins I can either get in fcs reactors in performance core or in carbon
Hey Noel I'm up for a hip replacement and it's of course my back leg that gets most of the force. Was your replacement full? How does it feel? Like you have a piece of inflexible steel in your hip? Because that's what I'm worried about - the inflexibility of the implant. Any tips?
Yes, I had full hip replacement. My hip is doing great… there are some limitations but the pain is gone in the hip joint. It also causes a lot of pain in my groin area. The hip replacement was absolutely a good idea for me. The piece in my leg does not feel like it’s not flexible. I just got to work out the scar tissue and stretch a lot to stay loose but that’s normal for me even with my good hip
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a great history lesson from duke aipa on the sting. thanks noel.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love Matt’s design insights. Always a pleasure to hear him talk shop with because he’s such a master craftsman and knows not only what works, but more importantly WHY it works.
@@trestlesrocks Agreed
@@surfnshowreviews7777 they way he explains how rocker curve and outline curve work together is so fundamental, yet so few shapers seem to understand it thoroughly. Or if they do, they can’t articulate it like he can.
Best surfing I’ve seen you do on all your shows especially as a groveller. This thing looks magic.
Glad to see you're doing well. Just checked in and got the info of your channel. I miss you all. 😊 Cat
I like the Puddle Jumper HP in waves below 4 ft. Was interested on how this board differs. Thanks for review.
Our pleasure!
I don't have the resources to do this but maybe one day in the future you could. Take a stock range board say, 5'6 and show the 5' 9, 6 2, 6'5 etc versions and demonstrate how the length effects the surfing.
Noel tearing it up in the pool!
Dope review! Getting Matt and Duke on is nice
Looks like a sick board for the pool
Epic review Noel ❤
Lookin good on that board Noel 👍
Thanks 👍
looks like fun thats what surfing is about especially when the surf is really small and no push in the wave 🤙
such a good review!
Love these board reviews.
Great review as always my friend. Did you check the new DHD model Eclipse? Looking forward!!
No sorry… the folks at DHD don’t send in boards for review anymore. Not even sure you can get DHD boards here in the US at this time.
Between this new PJ sting (black sheep) vs. Rocket Wide (spinetek). Vs. RNF 96 (black sheep) what is your ultimate groveler for Lowers, Church, Uppers, HB waves? I’m a front footer.
( btw, you look so explosive on the Rocket Wide)
I have been a big fan of yours and your epic reviews. Your reviews had made me buy some of my favorite all time boards. I have a puddle jumper HP epoxy and love it but it’s time to buy a new groveler.
Keep the good work Noel, we are here cheering for you.
Cheers for the kind words. Since you’re a front footed surfer I say RNF 96. In smaller surf you can shred it as a pure Twin fin with my HP Twins… next level fun.
To ride the 96 as a daily driver in 3-6’ surf you will love it with my Pivot Twins + Trailer
Just took my board out for 1st session ( lightspeed sting)
Fast n responsive
Turned sharp
Wasn’t ready for the speed 1st run
Setup as thruster think I’m gonna keep it so far I liked it just gotta manage
Hi. What thruster fins did you use?
I ride my lib tech “OG” puddle jumper with a modern style upright keel fin and its surprisingly good. Make me wonder about the sting with keels
What keels have you been using toby?
Awesome video, board looks a blast! I know you may not have had a chance to compare in this video, but wondering how you like the black sheep construction compared to the lightspeed or if they are about the same. Thanks again!
I like Black Sheep better… a bit more pop
Appreciate it! @@surfnshowreviews7777
Sick review. Trying to decide between this and the seaside for small days in so cal, any recommendation? Thanks
@@RobNash-d1r Get the new Lost Pisces… it’s on another level. You can shred it as a Quad, Thruster, 2+1, and pure Twinny. Board is unreal
It seems like almost everytime I watch one of these somehow my bank balance drops about 700 bucks, that thing looks sick...I had been eyeing them & have seen them in the line up but to see you rip on it gets me stoked
Cheers
Just bought the 6’0 Puddle Jumper Pro and it's a super rad board. It's my first board adding the over 40's and managing injuries volume and it does an incredible job of hiding the volume. for the 1-3 ft days I am debating between the original puddle jumper, puddle jumper HP and the Puddle Jumper Sting. I tried the seaside and just felt the board wanted to flatten out on turns and could not get the rails to sit down. Coming from more traditional shortboards I struggled with it. Curious what you think is the best for for getting up into the pocket.
Thanks for the review, sick!! Has a small waves groveler do you prefer the puddle jumper sting or Bobby quad ?
PJ Sting as a Quad
How does it to compare to the Pyzel white Tiger as far as speed?
Good comparison… the WT might have a little more down the line speed. The PJS offers excellent drive through turns with a Quad setup and gets into the lip quicker
What fins ride Mr. Mayhem in his 6.1?
Wow this boards looks really fun for mushy socal. I looked around online and haven't seen much about it. I'm looking for a new quad socal groveler. I was deciding between this, OG puddle jumper with a squash, JS flame fish, and the bobby quad. Would this be one your top groveler picks?
@@ginjaturtles Go Lost Pisces… best performance fish to date. It does Quad too
@ thanks for the rec! I’m not a huge fan of fishes but I’ll definitely check it out. I’m a big squash tail fan
@ Check out the Aipa Supernova. Fast sled I’ve ridden to date. Squash tail with Performance Fish Rocker best in 1’-3’ surf.
Any plans to review the sub scorcher sting as well ?
Not at this time.
Hey Noel, I've been jonesing for a Lost Hydra since your review for the smaller or average days on the US East coast. How does the PJ Sting compare? Thanks for the great videos.
Hydra might be a bit faster…. Seems to have less rocker. The PJ Sting offers more performance in the pocket
Awesome show, would love to see more of these videos with the shapers on specific designs.
Hey Noel, i'm tossing up between getting a Pyzel Astropop or a Lost RNF 96, what would you say were the biggest stand out differences between these two?
Keep up all the awesome work, loving this channel!
Cheers!
Astro pop is more of a Groveler. The 96 is a 1 board quiver for 2-8’ surf
@surfnshowreviews7777 what quad fins (futures) recomend for this board? Thanks for the info 🤙🏼
@@FrancoCellio Get my 5 fin set… next level in all boards. Here is the link… nothing out there like my fins.
surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
Love your videos, have you ever ridden the quiver killer?
No sorry
Hello! Great demo and review!
Would you recommend it for an upper end beginner for Mediterranean waves (Italy)? Small rides mostly close-outs, on-shore winds, choppy conditions. I'm 75kg(165lbs) with wetsuit and 180cm(5'11") height. I'm torn between Lost PJ, Lost Hydra, FireWire Sweet Potato and FW Mashup.
Thanksss
@@Crusifizerr Get the PJ Sting in PU/Poly for choppy waves
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thank you very much! I will check it out! Are there any drawbacks of the PU technology compared to Epoxy in terms of durability?
@@Crusifizerr Just get the PU/Poly with stock glassing. It will be a little heavier but that will make it more durable and better in choppy waves
Hey Noel, between this board (black. Sheep construction) or the inferno FT (epoxy) for Lowers, Uppers , church waves?
The PJ Sting is more of a Groveler. The IFT is a HPSB. The IFT needs a bit of a wave to go good… it has some rocker
Would you choose the puddle jumper sting or rocket wide for SoCal knee to chest high days? I keep going back and forth between those two for a small wave performance board/ groveler.
I am 6’3, 190lbs and I currently have a 6’0 S Boss which I really like for stomach to head high waves with some push so I want something for the smaller/ slightly weaker days.
PJ Sting for sure. The S Boss and RW to similar in wave size ability.
How much of a difference do you think there is between this and the lost x libtech puddle jumper? My old 5'3" libtech pj had a wing just behind the front fin boxes. This looks very similar only the wing is in front of the boxes, just wondering how much this changes the feel of the board. Thanks for a solid vid as always.
This sting will pivot way faster and earlier in the turn due to it being further up
I just bought this board and like it so far, very quick turning but im having an issue getting drive from the board, I've ridden it as a quad with the futures F8 LEGACY QUADS and it just seems to be to squirrely and i cant get it going. Any fin recommendations to remedy this? I've got a custom 5'4 around 31 liters and im 178 LBS
Put in a large set of Raked fins and keep the same Quad Rears. Maybe the AM’s or R8 side fins
Hi.
I am looking a small wave board for compliment my quiver (S Boss and DHD Eclipse) but I am undecided between some boards....
Mashup, RNF96, Storms TT White tiger and PJ Sting?
What's your recommendation?
Thanks so much
The PJ Sting is super fun!! If the waves are 1-3’ and mushy then go White Tiger or PJ Sting.
If the waves are 1-4’ with a bit of push then go 96 or Twin Turbo
Such a sick review! Thank you. Would you consider getting this board in XTR or go with the black sheep?
Both techs are epic… I would go XTR10 it will last way longer and have more pop
Awesome thank you!@@surfnshowreviews7777
Hello. What fcs2 quads would you recommend for the puddle jumper sting. I’m 150 riding 26l 5’2 east coast fl. Thanks for your videos
Medium Reactor Quad Rears
Thank you so much for taking time out your day to reply I appreciated that! Keep them coming you do a great job for us who aren’t as knowledgeable especially with fins lol
Good morning In the front run the reactor large?
@@michaelteague6710 Yes
Thanks so much for spending the knowledge have a great day bro
How would you size this one Noel? I was riding a 5.5 ultra joe 28ish liters and it was my favorite board would I aim for about the same with this board?
Yes, you don’t want this board too big. Keep the volume within reason.. to much volume will feel big and clunky
Hello sorry to bother you again do I use the performance core in front as well or switch to the pc carbons for the front.
Are you talking Performers? What fins are you talking about?
The fcs reactors you said go with medium rear quad they sell them in performance core. The front fins I can either get in fcs reactors in performance core or in carbon
One is pc carbon with + air core or should I just get the same material as quad rear. Sorry for confusion
@@michaelteague6710 Reactors in PC Carbon
@@michaelteague6710 Quad Rears can be the same construction
How does this compare to an Astro Pop for mostly small conditions?
Looks like the libtech version of the puddwl jumper, just a bit more "winged" anyone ridden both?
Have you ever tried the lost rocket redux?
No sorry
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks!
@surfnshowreviews7777 5’2 POD Mod or 5’2 PJS for California Groveling?
If you like Quads I say PJ Sting. If you like Twin + 1 then go PM
Looked great under feet in the pool.
Such a fun board… gotta size it right though.
Doesn’t the libtech version already have the step in tail
Not sure sorry
No Salas .......you need to go 4'5 not 5'4 have you laid on the burgers lately LOL Get a domestic great surfer in the mix -now that would be cool
Hey Noel I'm up for a hip replacement and it's of course my back leg that gets most of the force. Was your replacement full? How does it feel? Like you have a piece of inflexible steel in your hip? Because that's what I'm worried about - the inflexibility of the implant. Any tips?
Yes, I had full hip replacement. My hip is doing great… there are some limitations but the pain is gone in the hip joint. It also causes a lot of pain in my groin area.
The hip replacement was absolutely a good idea for me.
The piece in my leg does not feel like it’s not flexible. I just got to work out the scar tissue and stretch a lot to stay loose but that’s normal for me even with my good hip
Another Skimboard with fins. 😂
Sick review. Trying to decide between this or the seaside for small days in so cal, any recommendation? Thanks