On some of the sea rays and twin engine boats, they have a sync feature which matches engine rpm automatically, might as Holley if there is a way to do that with the systems you have. At higher rpm’s, sync will stop vibrations. Also helps the prop speeds.
On our boat sync just locks the controls of both engines together acting as one control lever. We use that when we gotta put the hammer down and fly!!!!
@@jwalster9412one reason boats don’t use small pocket compasses is because they are reliant on being stationary and they have a flat bottom. If you don’t hold it flat, your reading will be way off. There is a purpose for the globe shaped compass in ships.
"I'm not a super experienced boater" says the guy whose drone shots reveal that they forgot to pull in their fenders... 😂 Love the videos and the work you all have put into this boat. Glad to see it working again and hope you get many enjoyable cruises and experiences out of it. Best...
Engine sync is definitely a necessity along with auto pilot going long distances. Glad to see you making strides and getting this project done! Excited to see more
@@firefly2472 Also, when you park at another marina or next to a different boat their position ought to be adjusted and it is just simpler to have them in hand and tie them in a fitting position rather than frantically trying to untie and retie then in different place or even keeping them in a place where they do nothing.
@@firefly2472 It can also affect efficiency as they drag in the water, especially the aft fenders. On my boats passengers are crew and they raise/lower setup and store the fenders. Passengers also learn how to use a clove hitch to tie fenders to the boat... btw - we don't use the cleats to hang fenders. Cleats are reserved for dock lines.
@@HappyHarryHardon That also helps with maintaining good oiling under very rough sea conditions, right? So even when its rocking back and forth at angles that a car's engine would struggle with when under load and might suffer starvation, the boat's engine is capable of staying oiled since its reservoir isn't a pan with a pickup but a tank with a pump pulling from the very bottom?
That's why they use a diesel engines originally because of fuel mileage. Diesel engine(5.9I Cummins) cruise at 2500 rpm with 600lbs of torque. If I'm not mistaken , big boats rely on torque just like a big truck not HORSEPOWER. If you can get 23mph on that yacht, I think it's good enough. The yacht is too heavy for the gas engine to run efficient, I think. I'm sure the Italian Engineers build that yacht knows about it. That's why they installed a diesel engines.
you're not saying anything new there, all the boating types have been saying the same thing since he pulled the original diesels. This obsession with LS swapping everything is mind boggling. I hope he adds some blowers to the engine compartment or he's gonna grenade that thing.
@@jdshqs LS's were a horrible choice for that boat. I would have thought a couple cummins and it would have actually been reliable an moderately efficient
@@jdshqs He installed blowers and 2 gas monitors in one of the last videos. Said he will run the blowers before starting the boat and while cruising. I am a disappointment to my family.
@ B is for bulid Re the dji drone Go into setting and change what it does when conection is lost! RTH will dump it in the water where you lauched but when at sea you need to set it to go to a set altitude and hover when conection is lost!
Hey Guys, Been following you forever, watched all your vids, but you guys got me hooked with the boat vids, One thing i want to point out to you guys, DON'T use any galvanized fitting on anything. Your in salt water and salt water will corrode and rot those fittings so fast. The last thing you want is a leak or worse yet, the fiting to break off and your stuck in the middle of the Ocean. Change them out to Brass . Good Luck with everything, Love you guys !
I was crossing the bar there once and I found out we were losing oil fast. If you lose power along that part you have to hope the Coast Guard gets there before the waves push you onto the rocks or the beach. We put all our extra oil into the engine plus I was catching the drip and putting that oil back in. Anyways, we got into the marina in Astoria and I got 6 quarts of oil and put it in the engine and it just barely registered on the dipstick. We had a couple beers that night.
It's called "maroon, er, aqh , I mean "marine engineering. First you fix it, then you take it out on the water and beat on it. If it breaks again , fix and repeat. Broke is the head that wears that Captains hat! Wishin' you well, Chris; It's anawesome boat, and it was a chance you had what it takes to jump. To those who jump!
Make sure the bolt isnt bottoming out before it clamps the gaskit good. Maybe out a washer or geind the bolt down some. You can also use some silicone to help seal it. Not on the gaskit but around it. I also like the good old cork gaskit sometimes they work better then the new composit gaskits.
Try adding a couple dabs of grey RTV where the front and rear covers meet the pan rail. That, and use a Mahle gasket. That strategy has worked for me countless times on LS engines.
For the DJI return to home cancellation you need to go to sport mode on the controller, sport mode will also make the accident avoidance much less restrictive. The DJI software also has a follow feature that would make tracking the boat easier.
There is aftermarket software called Litchi that not only enables follow mode for DJI models that don't natively support it but also continuously updates the home position to wherever the controller is. It's about $30 and worth every penny.
I have the American version of your boat first built in 1993 Trojan 370 Express. Mine is a 2000 400 Express same boat longer swim platform my twin Merc. 7.4 top out 4K RPM 19.5 knots. You are flying at 20 mph 2400RPM.! Keep at it you will get it dialed.
It's so crazy to see your surroundings, cause its literally my back yard. I live on that river next to the little ferry on Puget Island. And yes, it's amazing to see the ships drive past my beach everyday. If you breakdown or need help while heading to Portland just look for the big yellow crane and shipping container on the beach.
Gas engines require a different transmission and props than the diesels. The gas engines should be propped to run around 5000 rpm or more at wide open throttle. That is a big heavy boat and probably needs a 2 to 1 gear reduction transmission to get the engines into the proper rpm range.
@@spaRTan3246perhaps, or maybe not. Depends on soooo many factors. Marching speed and lowesy fuel consumption CAN be achieved close to full beans depending on hull, prop and so on😁
What a goodish outcome let's hope it's not the pan being chipped or something 😢 but might be a fitting instead. Good to see the boat finally out and about.
With LS motors the front & I think the rear covers have a seam that butts with the oil pan. you put a little bead of sealer at that seam between the block & gasket.
Cover will quiet it down, also putting an intake on there with an air box will help. Engines make a lot of noise from induction and they’re under a decent load, so the blades are open more than they would be in a car at that RPM. Someone mentioned making sure the crankcase ventilation is good for the oil, and that’s an excellent call.
Two things which you probably already know. 1. Always take your fenders in before you go cruising. Nothing says I'm a noob like fenders flapping on the side of your boat while you are cruising. 2. Boats speed is measured in nautical mph not statue miles per hour. "We're going 21 knots!". Great video! It would not surprise me to see that Boat go 35 knots.
Most recreational boaters in the US use regular mph for measuring speeds. The boats also always come with mph guages factory fitted, not knots. Never seen or heard of anything else for a recreational boater, has to be super uncommon, probably a real large ship captain (or one with the same mindset) that operates that boat if they use knots.
@@GoldenCroc I guess if you are boating in the inland waterways exclusively then statute miles is for you. Those of us that spend most of our time in an ocean then it's knots. Cheers!
@@tiaramisu Me personally, I use knots. But I am from europe. Just noting what I have seen in the US market. Could be seen as anecdotal, but I got hundreds of testimonials and, as I said, I have never seen a single USDM pleasure boat sold with anything but mph gauges, that surely tells the story with emphasis. All boat tests from US in video or magazine form I have seen also state mph primarily. May I ask what USDM boats you own and have owned that didnt have mph gauges from factory? Must have been some serious offshore commercial grade stuff. Just curious. Cheers mate.
I had a Tiara 3100 open for 17 Years. It did not come from the factory with a speedometer. Speed over water, in knots, was measured by a thru hull that also measured depth. Speed over ground was measured, in knots, by the GPS chart plotter.
The steam coming from the exhaust suggests inadequate cooling (assuming the ambient air temp if not super low which it isn’t) . I would closely monitor the temp and perhaps look at upgrading the raw water pumps . You need bug volume through those heat exchangers to properly cool and you raw water coming out is hot , hence the steam
If engine temps are good, then I'm sure the steam is just from the hot exhaust mixing with the raw water after the riser, bring the water to a near boil. That is pretty common in gas marine engines when under load and not really of concern. Actually, on second watch engine temps are high for a marine app 195°f. Might need to get a new 165ish thermostats.
with the heavy diesels replaced with lightweight LSx engines, the stern is not so deep in the water as before, and the slope of the exhaust hose is less, causing water pooling in the hose.
@@Arcella1987 Making new exit holes for the exhaust a bit lower on the transom, but done cautiously so the water level is as before with the heavier engines. Usually the exhaust exits are slightly underwater when the boat is at rest, and above water when the boat is at speed. Thus at dockside the boat is quieter and kinda "burbles".
Did you get in and measure the fall yourself? Lol. As long as the engine doesn’t have reversion from the cams there’s absolutely no issue with water being in a wet exhaust
SOOO MANY comments trying to tell you guys what you’re doing wrong or what you need to do, I just wanted to comment that I really enjoyed the video, and love the risk/reward balance you guys teeter on, it’s 100% pure entertainment! Oscar is a champ as usual, you guys are a great duo 💪🏾
Really Pleased you dint go Silly with the Boat Lots More Fun to be had Later as you rightly say lets get any Problems Fixed then have the Fun you have got the Engines Fairly happy Now That's Got To Be A Win in my Book Great Vlog Man them Fly's are Crazy Bad Thanks
#1 rule for the, "saltier than thou" boating crowd" bring in your training wheels!!! (aka - dont drive around with your fenders out.) also, heres an amazon description for a compass you can use. they really do come in handy: S-53 Ritchie Navigation Explorer Compass 2 3/4-Inch Dial with Surface Mount, Black
So glad you guys got it going, and honestly seems to be working pretty well, a lot better than a lot people thought it would! Those god damn flies would drive me ape shit, kudos for working through that!
This was a huge step forward. Looking really good. The oil leak, while important, is more of an annoyance. No computer-programming-magic voodoo needed. You'll get it. Given the "bouncy" nature of boating, wouldn't surprise me if you needed a slightly thicker gasket, and torque if down tighter.
Waterline looks way lower now, that’s going to be problematic at higher speeds I imagine, you will also need to look if you’re now under/over propped and you now have way different RPM and weight characteristics! Should have reconditioned those diesels 😂
When I'm dealing with leaks and especially oil pan leaks, i always remove the oil pan early and let the engine over night to stop dripping Perfect cleaning both surfaces from any oils and using 300c + victor reinz silicon also on both sides. I completely ditch seals for the exact same reason of not staying in place and also leaking over time after a few thermal cycles. less layers you use there the better
It would be awesome to see if y'all could find a used Seakeeper (gyroscopic stabilizer) to install. It would only probably be useful in the bay and ocean but not necessary on the river. Super cool content though for sure.
the ole girl does seem to be a lot happier now, and even with the rough seas, she looks like she cut through it fairly well. loving seeing her come together!
The seam between block and pan should not have oil...the engine is tilted in a boat. You need a very deep pan, deep oil pickup, and run only enough oil so that the pan gasket is not used to retain liquid oil. So like a ten quart pan with 8.5 quarts. Get the oil off the gasket.
Good to see the boat running, lot of work still to go. To add to a comment below - Nothing says "Boat Dork" more than running around with your bumpers hanging over the side 😁😆😝.
I fix industrial equipment, diggers and dozers and such. Some caskets may need to "experience" full heat a couple of times before they seal fully. Tapping (knocking) the bolts at correct torque and then torquing them at manufacture specified level also helps.
You need stern ballast. You can tell how bad that boat is sitting in the water. Your deadrise is significant and the bow seems pretty low based on the bottom paint…. I’m pretty sure you’ve got water pooling somewhere in the exhaust as a result.
Or worse, he could get water in the bilge FORWARD where no Pump is to get it out, and by the time he realizes he has a leak it will be way too late and he will get to watch his boat sink bow first.
Hey if you were still wondering about what to put in that compass hole. They sell kayak compasses for real cheap. It might fit a little different but you can 3d print a bracket.
if the water is choppy like this, its probably wind and tide going against eachother. wait untill the current goes the same way as the wind and the waves will be longer and less 'pointy'. way smoother ride. (barge captain here, with high winds we always wait for that moment)
I don't know about how the trim works on bigger boats, but you'll know plane when the back end rises, and the entire boat is flat on the water. Achieving a good plane actually really helps with waves and a smooth ride.
at 1:40 seeing that fly on the side of his glasses and just as it touches his ear the video feed skips past an edited part. chris went on a fly destroying rampage before filming again 🤣🤣
Nice work guys. I'd probably consider looking into a higher volume sea water pump for your engine cooling there. That's a lot of steam and typically an indication of low water flow, and you're not even into the high power range or higher RPMs yet. It might be enough capacity of sea water to keep the heat exchanger and coolant for the engine's happy. But I don't think it's enough sea water for the exhaust system based on the video. Also, on a typical marine engine, the sea water pump is driven by the engine, and will put out a variable amount of water flow based on the RPMs.
@@jerrywilcox9890 lol you are incorrect. the white heat exchanger on the front of the engines has coolant and sea water in it. The two different fluids are separated by the tube and shell design of the heat exchanger. The sea water is used to cool the coolant circulating in the engines. After the sea water comes out of the heat exchanger, it will go to the exhaust elbow to be mixed with the exhaust gas and then out the back of the boat.
WJs correct. seawater cools the engine first then injected into the exhaust. Steam out of the exhaust at that load (assuming the engines/props are sized to attain max rated rpm), is way too much - more seawater required.
You could make it quiet if it's important , I love the sound of big blocks like that. Putting sound deadening everywhere helps the looks and fire resistance too .Air replacement for gas fumes is very important , test with cows open if possibld
Great that You got it working! To plane properly with such boat, you probably need to move minimum 23-25 knots. There will be a huge load on those engines between 10-20 knots.
@@spaRTan3246 Actually the wake is probably even worse in 10-20 knots, semi displacement speeds. But agree, the wake will be pretty bad also in planning speed :)
Throw some engine oil dye in and check with uv light to be sure that’s where the oil is coming from. And if so, maybe there are some spots on the gasket you need sealant. I don’t work on lsx engines but some engines require a bit of Sealant is corners etc..
I’m pretty sure everyone told you at the time LS swap was a big investment and expensive to run, but #LStheworld fever swayed opinions! Should have rebuilt the Cummins and kept the boat practical!
as long as they are not touching the water or bouncing onto windows dangerously, its a great way to save time, not forget to put them back when docking and eliminate the risk of falling overboard by having to walk and remove/install them.
Make sure to tune the engines for when there is only one of them running. It is a lot more load for the same rpm, so a very different part of the fueling table. Also, if you can not properly run the boat with one engine, you are probably over proped.
Hey brother from a 40 year boater and I am sure you are going to hear this a 1000 times. You are plowing the boat and I believe you are going to have a 50 mph boat. The trim tabs are going to help a lot. We always have oil in the bilge and is a part of Life because of the amount is torque. Please bring in your bumper and not let them flap in the water. You are doing great and appreciate you doing your videos. Patten put the Texas speed motors in because diesel sucks. The smell and parts suck.
If the crank is like a factory one, the holes for the flywheel go all the way through. I had one leak from the flywheel bolts and couldnt for the life of me find out where until I parted the car out and found out
On some of the sea rays and twin engine boats, they have a sync feature which matches engine rpm automatically, might as Holley if there is a way to do that with the systems you have. At higher rpm’s, sync will stop vibrations.
Also helps the prop speeds.
But those should be drive by wires.
On our boat sync just locks the controls of both engines together acting as one control lever. We use that when we gotta put the hammer down and fly!!!!
Dude. Pay the $1,000 for the compass. You need a manual compass if you're going to be taking it out to ocean. You cannot rely on electronics.
Why do that when you could get a (good quality) pocket held one for way less
The sun is my compass
@@AW-yv9sqclouds and fog just dont exist for you huh haha
@@jwalster9412one reason boats don’t use small pocket compasses is because they are reliant on being stationary and they have a flat bottom. If you don’t hold it flat, your reading will be way off. There is a purpose for the globe shaped compass in ships.
This! Boats are all about dual redundancy. You need a backup plan at all times. Especially if you are going in the ocean.
"I'm not a super experienced boater" says the guy whose drone shots reveal that they forgot to pull in their fenders... 😂 Love the videos and the work you all have put into this boat. Glad to see it working again and hope you get many enjoyable cruises and experiences out of it. Best...
@OfficialBIsForBuild.. yeah, ok bud!
Double check the dipstick to make sure it’s seated and that the o-ring is in good shape. They always look like a pan leak. Congratulations on the p.b.
Keep this boat series going! Really enjoying it
I love how you are still 1.5 hrs away from the home marina from when you broke down there YEARS AGO.... What a saga, and all boat people can relate ;)
Engine sync is definitely a necessity along with auto pilot going long distances. Glad to see you making strides and getting this project done! Excited to see more
Boats that have drive by wire controls sure, cable nope
Smart to let everyone know that you're a beginner's captain by keeping the fenders out. ;-)
Facts😂😂😂😂
7:40 timestamp for easy viewing of drone footage.
Fenders do not stay out or even attached once you leave the harbor 🤦🏼
But love the boat content 🤩
Because it looks stupid, scratches the hull, slams - few reasons.
But mostly you look like a weekend boater… ☺️
@@firefly2472 Also, when you park at another marina or next to a different boat their position ought to be adjusted and it is just simpler to have them in hand and tie them in a fitting position rather than frantically trying to untie and retie then in different place or even keeping them in a place where they do nothing.
@@firefly2472
Because having them flail at the sides of the boat while sailing, can scratch the paint.
I was soooo going to post this but you beat me to it. Look like a noob with the fenders flailing about. Lol
@@firefly2472 It can also affect efficiency as they drag in the water, especially the aft fenders. On my boats passengers are crew and they raise/lower setup and store the fenders. Passengers also learn how to use a clove hitch to tie fenders to the boat... btw - we don't use the cleats to hang fenders. Cleats are reserved for dock lines.
You may also want to check for proper PCV. The leak getting worse at higher RPM, could be excessive pressure. Love the content!
You are definitely onto something Andy.
It’s why a lot of offshore style setups are drysump.
Because of airtime and hard impacts.
@@HappyHarryHardon That also helps with maintaining good oiling under very rough sea conditions, right? So even when its rocking back and forth at angles that a car's engine would struggle with when under load and might suffer starvation, the boat's engine is capable of staying oiled since its reservoir isn't a pan with a pickup but a tank with a pump pulling from the very bottom?
I’ll say it one more time - Oscar is a champion! Congrats guys, love the boat content.
Yeah I saw him in the boat yard working hard on this. This boat content is way interesting.
Yes Oscar is special , I don't know why hust pure gold . He finishes things I think
That's why they use a diesel engines originally because of fuel mileage. Diesel engine(5.9I Cummins) cruise at 2500 rpm with 600lbs of torque. If I'm not mistaken , big boats rely on torque just like a big truck not HORSEPOWER. If you can get 23mph on that yacht, I think it's good enough. The yacht is too heavy for the gas engine to run efficient, I think. I'm sure the Italian Engineers build that yacht knows about it. That's why they installed a diesel engines.
@@dav1dsm1thexcept there were tons of inboard gasoline powered boats. They put those explosive engines in wood boats....
😂😂😂😂😂.
you're not saying anything new there, all the boating types have been saying the same thing since he pulled the original diesels. This obsession with LS swapping everything is mind boggling. I hope he adds some blowers to the engine compartment or he's gonna grenade that thing.
@@jdshqs LS's were a horrible choice for that boat. I would have thought a couple cummins and it would have actually been reliable an moderately efficient
@@jdshqs He installed blowers and 2 gas monitors in one of the last videos. Said he will run the blowers before starting the boat and while cruising. I am a disappointment to my family.
I am so happy for you guys. It is amazing what you guys have done with that boat. I love the boat content, it is a great change from the norm.
@ B is for bulid
Re the dji drone
Go into setting and change what it does when conection is lost!
RTH will dump it in the water where you lauched but when at sea you need to set it to go to a set altitude and hover when conection is lost!
Color me impressed with these engines. You're getting some good results at a healthy RPM.
Hey Guys, Been following you forever, watched all your vids, but you guys got me hooked with the boat vids, One thing i want to point out to you guys, DON'T use any galvanized fitting on anything. Your in salt water and salt water will corrode and rot those fittings so fast. The last thing you want is a leak or worse yet, the fiting to break off and your stuck in the middle of the Ocean. Change them out to Brass . Good Luck with everything, Love you guys !
I was crossing the bar there once and I found out we were losing oil fast. If you lose power along that part you have to hope the Coast Guard gets there before the waves push you onto the rocks or the beach. We put all our extra oil into the engine plus I was catching the drip and putting that oil back in. Anyways, we got into the marina in Astoria and I got 6 quarts of oil and put it in the engine and it just barely registered on the dipstick. We had a couple beers that night.
It's called "maroon, er, aqh , I mean "marine engineering. First you fix it, then you take it out on the water and beat on it. If it breaks again , fix and repeat. Broke is the head that wears that Captains hat! Wishin' you well, Chris; It's anawesome boat, and it was a chance you had what it takes to jump. To those who jump!
Make sure the bolt isnt bottoming out before it clamps the gaskit good. Maybe out a washer or geind the bolt down some. You can also use some silicone to help seal it. Not on the gaskit but around it. I also like the good old cork gaskit sometimes they work better then the new composit gaskits.
*GASKET
Try adding a couple dabs of grey RTV where the front and rear covers meet the pan rail. That, and use a Mahle gasket. That strategy has worked for me countless times on LS engines.
For the DJI return to home cancellation you need to go to sport mode on the controller, sport mode will also make the accident avoidance much less restrictive.
The DJI software also has a follow feature that would make tracking the boat easier.
Yeah just learning how to use it instead of dogging the very nice software is recommended lol.
There is aftermarket software called Litchi that not only enables follow mode for DJI models that don't natively support it but also continuously updates the home position to wherever the controller is. It's about $30 and worth every penny.
@@toejamr1 There's way better 3rd party software. They're the cheapest/most affordable drones for a reason.
He's an engineer...instructions are a foreign concept...lol
Can't you set the controller as the home point? My old platinum has that option in the settings
I have the American version of your boat first built in 1993 Trojan 370 Express. Mine is a 2000 400 Express same boat longer swim platform my twin Merc. 7.4 top out 4K RPM 19.5 knots. You are flying at 20 mph 2400RPM.! Keep at it you will get it dialed.
YOUR ENGINE HEADACHE WILL NEVER END..
If he keeps posting videos of his troubles, maybe he can afford to buy a boat that isn’t a lead balloon.
@@demagescod9657 BOAT = Borrow Another Thousand?
It's so crazy to see your surroundings, cause its literally my back yard. I live on that river next to the little ferry on Puget Island. And yes, it's amazing to see the ships drive past my beach everyday. If you breakdown or need help while heading to Portland just look for the big yellow crane and shipping container on the beach.
Gas engines require a different transmission and props than the diesels. The gas engines should be propped to run around 5000 rpm or more at wide open throttle. That is a big heavy boat and probably needs a 2 to 1 gear reduction transmission to get the engines into the proper rpm range.
But they‘ll start consuming way more.
@@spaRTan3246perhaps, or maybe not. Depends on soooo many factors. Marching speed and lowesy fuel consumption CAN be achieved close to full beans depending on hull, prop and so on😁
you dont know what rpm he will get at wot
My twin mercruiser caps at 3200 rpm
I believe his ZF transmissions already are a 2:1 ratio.
Congrats guys! Hope we get to see more videos on the boat! My favorite series you have done and I've been here since the beginning.
Stoked for you guys, all that hard work paying off, those motors sound sweet. Cant wait for next video !!
i have NEVER seen Oscar really smile before ! Congrats ! You guys bring, the entertainment ! and don't forget the PFD's
What a goodish outcome let's hope it's not the pan being chipped or something 😢 but might be a fitting instead. Good to see the boat finally out and about.
With LS motors the front & I think the rear covers have a seam that butts with the oil pan. you put a little bead of sealer at that seam between the block & gasket.
Cover will quiet it down, also putting an intake on there with an air box will help. Engines make a lot of noise from induction and they’re under a decent load, so the blades are open more than they would be in a car at that RPM. Someone mentioned making sure the crankcase ventilation is good for the oil, and that’s an excellent call.
Nice work getting back on the water.
One quick way to look like a pro, stow your bumpers.
Keep Building!
Two things which you probably already know. 1. Always take your fenders in before you go cruising. Nothing says I'm a noob like fenders flapping on the side of your boat while you are cruising. 2. Boats speed is measured in nautical mph not statue miles per hour. "We're going 21 knots!". Great video! It would not surprise me to see that Boat go 35 knots.
I don't know the first thing about boating but I noticed those bumpers and thought the same thing.
Most recreational boaters in the US use regular mph for measuring speeds. The boats also always come with mph guages factory fitted, not knots. Never seen or heard of anything else for a recreational boater, has to be super uncommon, probably a real large ship captain (or one with the same mindset) that operates that boat if they use knots.
@@GoldenCroc I guess if you are boating in the inland waterways exclusively then statute miles is for you. Those of us that spend most of our time in an ocean then it's knots. Cheers!
@@tiaramisu Me personally, I use knots. But I am from europe.
Just noting what I have seen in the US market. Could be seen as anecdotal, but I got hundreds of testimonials and, as I said, I have never seen a single USDM pleasure boat sold with anything but mph gauges, that surely tells the story with emphasis. All boat tests from US in video or magazine form I have seen also state mph primarily.
May I ask what USDM boats you own and have owned that didnt have mph gauges from factory? Must have been some serious offshore commercial grade stuff. Just curious. Cheers mate.
I had a Tiara 3100 open for 17 Years. It did not come from the factory with a speedometer. Speed over water, in knots, was measured by a thru hull that also measured depth. Speed over ground was measured, in knots, by the GPS chart plotter.
Keep this boat series going! Really enjoying it. Love this series. Keep going!.
Oscar is the man, he’s a freakin genius fabricator/mechanic 😎 love watching him working out a challenge 😊
That is super loud. I sail and just love the quiet.
And, uh, a gallon a minute. Just way too much.
The steam coming from the exhaust suggests inadequate cooling (assuming the ambient air temp if not super low which it isn’t) . I would closely monitor the temp and perhaps look at upgrading the raw water pumps . You need bug volume through those heat exchangers to properly cool and you raw water coming out is hot , hence the steam
If engine temps are good, then I'm sure the steam is just from the hot exhaust mixing with the raw water after the riser, bring the water to a near boil. That is pretty common in gas marine engines when under load and not really of concern. Actually, on second watch engine temps are high for a marine app 195°f. Might need to get a new 165ish thermostats.
Yessir! B is for boat this weekend! Thanks for the drop B.I.F.B crew!
with the heavy diesels replaced with lightweight LSx engines, the stern is not so deep in the water as before, and the slope of the exhaust hose is less, causing water pooling in the hose.
what would be the fix for this? putting weights in the boat to give it the same "profile"?
Led or water ballast near the transom
@@Arcella1987 Making new exit holes for the exhaust a bit lower on the transom, but done cautiously so the water level is as before with the heavier engines. Usually the exhaust exits are slightly underwater when the boat is at rest, and above water when the boat is at speed. Thus at dockside the boat is quieter and kinda "burbles".
this. 100% need to account for this
Did you get in and measure the fall yourself? Lol. As long as the engine doesn’t have reversion from the cams there’s absolutely no issue with water being in a wet exhaust
I love how you've breathed life into this old beauty again😊
SOOO MANY comments trying to tell you guys what you’re doing wrong or what you need to do, I just wanted to comment that I really enjoyed the video, and love the risk/reward balance you guys teeter on, it’s 100% pure entertainment! Oscar is a champ as usual, you guys are a great duo 💪🏾
Really Pleased you dint go Silly with the Boat Lots More Fun to be had Later as you rightly say lets get any Problems Fixed then have the Fun you have got the Engines Fairly happy Now That's Got To Be A Win in my Book Great Vlog Man them Fly's are Crazy Bad Thanks
Looking forward to you getting it home, i keep an eye out for it every time i drive through Portland.
This boat is the reason i found this channel and noe i watch every build. So excited to see this boat in the water
Boating with your fenders is like driving down the road with your turn signal on. Other people are looking at you and shaking their heads.
Well said. When I saw the thumbnail for the new vid I was excited then I saw the fenders out and was like😢😮
we call this 'tacky' in my family - and in "hey dad - you're tacky!"
much like expecting a bmw using turn signals
Yess been waiting for this video for so long
Love to see the boat in the water under its own power.
I may have missed it, but did you change the propellers to match the gas engines? What diameter and pitch are you running?
Don’t think he did. Props are like diffs in car they control the speed of the boat
@@MrLikeaboss2012 You’re exactly right. The reason I asked was 20mph at about 2k rpms. He’s abusing the crap out of those motors.
Yea he need to check on the props for sure
White vinegar and a little water in a spray bottle! Try it to get rid of the black flies! It works on my fishing boat on lake Erie
Absolutely mega result! Better safe than sorry. Can't wait to see what she'll do at full chat. 🎉
I was fishing this Thursday out of Port of Astoria and I definitely saw your boat at the dock! So cool. I’ve been following this one for years.
Love the boat content, looks like working on the engines is awfully convenient!
#1 rule for the, "saltier than thou" boating crowd" bring in your training wheels!!! (aka - dont drive around with your fenders out.) also, heres an amazon description for a compass you can use. they really do come in handy: S-53 Ritchie Navigation Explorer Compass 2 3/4-Inch Dial with Surface Mount, Black
So glad you guys got it going, and honestly seems to be working pretty well, a lot better than a lot people thought it would! Those god damn flies would drive me ape shit, kudos for working through that!
Was that the ocean liner with the giant metal sails you went past ?
The channel that keeps on giving, stay smiling.
Glad to see this going well! You've done well to persevere with it! Can we have a camper update soon pls 😀
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
Sweet engine swap! I love the lines of that boat! Put your fenders away when youre underway so you don’t look like a newb out on the water 😉
Don't need to put the fenders away as long as there not touching the water they are fine.
Wrong. It’s poor etiquette and it rubs the gelcoat. Plus the other boaters will laugh at you
great job sticking to it!!! I would have parked it and went for a beer......
and fiddle with the trim often. find the sweet spot
Had to give a Like for the Sea Lion 👍
This was a huge step forward. Looking really good. The oil leak, while important, is more of an annoyance. No computer-programming-magic voodoo needed. You'll get it.
Given the "bouncy" nature of boating, wouldn't surprise me if you needed a slightly thicker gasket, and torque if down tighter.
Man, this yacht is amazing y’all did an awesome job bringing this boat back to life. Thank you for the great content 👍🏻👍🏻
Heck, yea been waiting for this day a long time glad to see the boat working
Waterline looks way lower now, that’s going to be problematic at higher speeds I imagine, you will also need to look if you’re now under/over propped and you now have way different RPM and weight characteristics! Should have reconditioned those diesels 😂
Seems like he’s probably way over propped. I’m curious to see how many RPM he can turn at WOT.
Also those transmissions i am sure can't handle 6000 rpm from the new gas engine's.
@@ZeroFoxGarage
AFAIK, the transmissions were sourced with those engines in mind.
It's not the same transmissions as was on the old engines.
When I'm dealing with leaks and especially oil pan leaks, i always remove the oil pan early and let the engine over night to stop dripping
Perfect cleaning both surfaces from any oils and using 300c + victor reinz silicon also on both sides. I completely ditch seals for the exact same reason of not staying in place and also leaking over time after a few thermal cycles.
less layers you use there the better
Love this series. Keep going!
Oh my.. I have been following this project for years.
It would be awesome to see if y'all could find a used Seakeeper (gyroscopic stabilizer) to install. It would only probably be useful in the bay and ocean but not necessary on the river. Super cool content though for sure.
the ole girl does seem to be a lot happier now, and even with the rough seas, she looks like she cut through it fairly well. loving seeing her come together!
Instead of saying "you have to do this" or "you have to do that" I'm just gonna say :
Great video, I really enjoyed it.
Keep them coming. 👍
You’ve certainly overcome a lot of hurdles. Glad to see some success finally. I recognize the bridge because I drive over it every week.
The seam between block and pan should not have oil...the engine is tilted in a boat. You need a very deep pan, deep oil pickup, and run only enough oil so that the pan gasket is not used to retain liquid oil. So like a ten quart pan with 8.5 quarts. Get the oil off the gasket.
I wonder what degree the engine is at when he is at say 13. Might be enough to put the oil over the mid part of the gasket
We all hope you get things fitting 'just right' and get into having fun..
Good to see the boat running, lot of work still to go. To add to a comment below - Nothing says "Boat Dork" more than running around with your bumpers hanging over the side 😁😆😝.
You got me on that one, LOL.@@dav1dsm1th
I fix industrial equipment, diggers and dozers and such. Some caskets may need to "experience" full heat a couple of times before they seal fully. Tapping (knocking) the bolts at correct torque and then torquing them at manufacture specified level also helps.
You need stern ballast. You can tell how bad that boat is sitting in the water. Your deadrise is significant and the bow seems pretty low based on the bottom paint…. I’m pretty sure you’ve got water pooling somewhere in the exhaust as a result.
Or worse, he could get water in the bilge FORWARD where no Pump is to get it out, and by the time he realizes he has a leak it will be way too late and he will get to watch his boat sink bow first.
Congratulations! That stellar and I can only imagine the nerves. Good job!
I'm so excited for more boat stuff it's been way too long, and way too many things have happened since you bought it
Hey if you were still wondering about what to put in that compass hole. They sell kayak compasses for real cheap. It might fit a little different but you can 3d print a bracket.
Step one, bring in the fenders while underway. So the boater guys don’t give you a rep that you’ll never live down. 😅😂
Ha I drive by there sometimes, awesome open area to boat in when it’s high tide and not to many tankers around.
That boat is so cool. Great job. And I like Oscar a lot dude does great work nice to see him talk. 👍
if the water is choppy like this, its probably wind and tide going against eachother. wait untill the current goes the same way as the wind and the waves will be longer and less 'pointy'. way smoother ride. (barge captain here, with high winds we always wait for that moment)
I don't know about how the trim works on bigger boats, but you'll know plane when the back end rises, and the entire boat is flat on the water. Achieving a good plane actually really helps with waves and a smooth ride.
and fuel MPG.
No trim on this boat. Only trim tabs.
at 1:40 seeing that fly on the side of his glasses and just as it touches his ear the video feed skips past an edited part. chris went on a fly destroying rampage before filming again 🤣🤣
Nice work guys. I'd probably consider looking into a higher volume sea water pump for your engine cooling there. That's a lot of steam and typically an indication of low water flow, and you're not even into the high power range or higher RPMs yet. It might be enough capacity of sea water to keep the heat exchanger and coolant for the engine's happy. But I don't think it's enough sea water for the exhaust system based on the video. Also, on a typical marine engine, the sea water pump is driven by the engine, and will put out a variable amount of water flow based on the RPMs.
Lol it doesn't cool the engine's so it doesn't matter engine's have there own cooling system.
@@jerrywilcox9890 lol you are incorrect. the white heat exchanger on the front of the engines has coolant and sea water in it. The two different fluids are separated by the tube and shell design of the heat exchanger. The sea water is used to cool the coolant circulating in the engines. After the sea water comes out of the heat exchanger, it will go to the exhaust elbow to be mixed with the exhaust gas and then out the back of the boat.
@@jerrywilcox9890 Wrong. The sea water cools the coolant that cools the engine via the heat exchanger.
WJs correct. seawater cools the engine first then injected into the exhaust. Steam out of the exhaust at that load (assuming the engines/props are sized to attain max rated rpm), is way too much - more seawater required.
the drone shots are awesome!
This will be a lot of fun! Congrats on getting to this point!
You could make it quiet if it's important , I love the sound of big blocks like that. Putting sound deadening everywhere helps the looks and fire resistance too .Air replacement for gas fumes is very important , test with cows open if possibld
Great that You got it working! To plane properly with such boat, you probably need to move minimum 23-25 knots. There will be a huge load on those engines between 10-20 knots.
And you‘re gonna harass all the boats around you because of the stupid wake… 🤪
@@spaRTan3246 Actually the wake is probably even worse in 10-20 knots, semi displacement speeds. But agree, the wake will be pretty bad also in planning speed :)
Throw some engine oil dye in and check with uv light to be sure that’s where the oil is coming from. And if so, maybe there are some spots on the gasket you need sealant. I don’t work on lsx engines but some engines require a bit of Sealant is corners etc..
I’m pretty sure everyone told you at the time LS swap was a big investment and expensive to run, but #LStheworld fever swayed opinions!
Should have rebuilt the Cummins and kept the boat practical!
If you kept the old compass you have send it out to be serviced or do it yourself . Usually you can add new mineral oil and reseal it .
B is for boat's Bubba 😂❤🎉
Broooo
This series helped me into buying my own boat.
Fenders in the water while at speed is a sure way to see who doesnt know how to boat
as long as they are not touching the water or bouncing onto windows dangerously, its a great way to save time, not forget to put them back when docking and eliminate the risk of falling overboard by having to walk and remove/install them.
I’ve been boating for 85 years and always leave my bumpers out. You don’t know what you’re talking about obviously.
YUP, HAHAHAHAHA
@@HappyHarryHardon. 85 Year old Amateur
Boat how you wanna boat. If a fender offends you, then you are offended. 🤷♂️
Got a new sub from because of this vid!! I like how your style and taste! Cant wait to see it 100% finished!! 😂
Make sure to tune the engines for when there is only one of them running.
It is a lot more load for the same rpm, so a very different part of the fueling table.
Also, if you can not properly run the boat with one engine, you are probably over proped.
Lol they tune themselves. Second it doesn't have to tuned.just to run one lol.
You'll never get on plane with one engine.
Hey brother from a 40 year boater and I am sure you are going to hear this a 1000 times. You are plowing the boat and I believe you are going to have a 50 mph boat. The trim tabs are going to help a lot. We always have oil in the bilge and is a part of
Life because of the amount is torque. Please bring in your bumper and not let them flap in the water. You are doing great and appreciate you doing your videos. Patten put the Texas speed motors in because diesel sucks. The smell and parts suck.
If the crank is like a factory one, the holes for the flywheel go all the way through. I had one leak from the flywheel bolts and couldnt for the life of me find out where until I parted the car out and found out
Bro, I love seeing you so Happy.... Rock on Man :)