"One Tricking Is The Most Effective Way To Climb..." | Interview with Top Lane Coach
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- 00:00 - 06:21 // Who Is Alois? + His Recent KR Bootcamp Experiences
06:21 - 11:05 // How Did He Get Into Coaching?
11:05 - 21:25 // Fundamentals vs. Champion Mastery Discussion
21:25 - 32:30 // Champion Pool Size + OTP’ing
32:30 - 59:35 // Controversial Reviewing Discussion + Review Deep Dive
59:35 - 01:06:10 // Mindset + Dealing With Emotions and Expectations
01:06:10 - 01:15:15 // Why Is It Hard To Take Responsibility? + Overconfidence
01:15:15 - 01:21:45 // Details vs. Big Picture Thinking
01:21:45 - 01:38:15 // Top Lane vs. Mid Lane Differences + How This Shapes Learning
01:38:15 - 01:58:00 // Master To Challenger Climbing Discussion + High Elo META Importance
01:58:00 - 02:00:44 // Conclusion
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League of legends coaching, league coach, mid lane coach - Ігри
Was amazing to do this video together man! Thank you once again
You're goat dude
Super interesting and informative listening to you! Definitely interested in your content now.
Sooo... you still think midlane players are dumber than toplane players? :D
This was one of my favorite collabs of the year.
"I will never even teach a single student on how to play from behind". Spoken like a true riven player.
A simple way to review:
1. think about what you're doing in hand (no autopilot, you should have a reason for every ability used etc)
2. if something happened that was against what you expected, review it and find out why
that's it. did you die in an all in when you thought you would win? review and see why. ah they lvld up during the trade, i wasn't tracking xp well enough. or ah they had an item over me. oh i missed x ability here. that's it.
this helps train your intuition for next time. play with intention, review when something goes wrong and try to root cause what you missed in your calculated intention, and the final secret step is FORGIVE YOURSELF for making a mistake because you're still learning and we are human.
do this every game and after 100+ games you'll be so much better than you were before and over time that improvement will reflect in your win rate and rank.
Alois is fantastic, so happy to see this collab, great work guys!
Dutch coaches do be hitting different these days 🙌🏼
Yesterday i was watching the Broken By Concept potcast with xPetu and was thinking how you should do a video with Alois or Sinerias. Love them
Finally Alois and midlane Alois make a video together xD
these 2 hours felt so mindopening, great work you two!!
obviously haven't seen anything since the video is out for like 30 seconds but it's super cool you guys are in contact, maybe there will finally be an MLA-type toplane coach after all :) only ADC to go in that case!
I want to agree with something said that was very important to my learning. Many seasons ago I reviewed all my deaths after every game and tried to identify bad ones, why they were bad, and how I could have avoided them. This helped me become such a better player and climb to where in most games I'm near the bottom in deaths while still having very high kill participation and impact. Looking at my highest account which is around D1/Masters, it averages 4.7 deaths per games with 14.8 KP.
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Great top lane coach and content creator! Insightful interview too, as always.
Beautiful! Thanks so much for coming on to do the interview Alois. This is amazing to see people coming together and discussing high level concepts without the normal--this or that is busted. Champ op, etc. Keep up the amazing content--both of you! ❤
Dudee, great collab, two beastss🎉 amazing guys, keep up the great work❤❤❤🎉🎉
This made my little top lane heart so happy, the dream collab!
I love the way you approach the game Curtis
Amazing to see my favorite coaches of League together on one episode of podcast. Thank you very much both @Coach Curtis for arranging this call and @AloisNL for accepting. Great topics and concepts for discussion even for players of high elo as myself - currently high master (peak GM).
Loved this content, could listen to you guys discuss league for hours. Thanks!
Great collab, Alois is such a wholesome guy and explains his thought process so well. Thanks for the great content!
Truly the highly anticipated sequel to BBC ft xPetu. Best collabs!
what. the fuck. best collab ever produced
Great collab, i'd love to see another one later on!
Super interesting, watched the whole thing. Great stuff.
Two great coaches, coaching each other on coaching. Loved it. More, thanks!
I didn't realize inception can be a good thing lol
I've been one tricking sylas for the longest time, Definitely wathcing this vid till the end :)
Sweet collaboration! 🎉
43:49 there is actual research that suggests visualizing/ imagining yourself doing something helps build muscle memory and physical ability to do something. So reviewing a bad play and thinking about how you could have played it different may be more helpful than we think
OMG you hit the nail on the head I was going to comment this on one of you videos and you actually said it! The way you're describing it actually by technicality is no longer fundamental so doesn't that mean that something else then is the fundamentals? That seems to me at least to be the logical conclusion.
OMG WAIT WHAT. I watch both of these people all the time, I thought i was watching clip at first
Alois the goat I learned so much from him for free i‘m planing on buying his courses so I can go to masters I‘m dia 3 currently
i love dyrus, good interview
i love the first 8 min vs first 4 waves. the difference i suspect is due to mid champs often having range allowing safer play and scaling with spacing to be more viabke, so theres a longer period before things become 'set' or 'unforgiving' while top melee matchups, those early waves matter so much more bc smaller mistakes cost more, every cs puts you in danger to be outtraded if behind, etc. just a cool parallel
edit: finished the vid yall basicaly said tht lmao
@16:30 its true for everything tho. Also even in football, basketball etc. The higher level u recieve as a kid, u realize u have to play one role striker/defender/wing, etc. in order to learn the basics of that role. This where most people quit as a kid, and so it is for league. It is actually otp'ing a role in any sport, with patterns of passes, runs, etc. A memory game of experience. The striker has no idea of the other roles as deep. Actually in any job in the world. u OTP a role. Same for everything
"intuitively & logically" is also know as unconscious competence.
NO WAY I WATCH BOTH OF YOU AL DAY. Im a riven Main too. So sick. Im stocked
alois POG
This is like being in the same room as my dad and stepdad
I like that metaphor that reviewing is like steroids. Because if playing is like working out then yes steroids speed up the process but without playing/ working out they don't do shit.
Curtis just talking 80% of the time and passive aggressively trying to talk shit to Alois about why he's "wrong" lol
Fr. Seemed like the entire thing was just him trying to convince him he’s wrong. Or to bait him into an opinion so he can say it’s wrong
Can someone recommend a list of coaches for adcs, maybe one os better then the other on x thing and the other on y thing, the best would be if they play a lot of Jhin or even OTP hik
i keep it taco is the best Jhin I think
@@balianvonybelin2946 he is fine but he aint a coach, he doesnt rly answer questions about the game and meta
26:40 where you can hear what a new player think when a pro says pick a fundamental champ cuz you learn it under 50 match and the other one 300 ( 300 still not much) and ... the rest is what curtis says.
Hey Coach Curtis I got to the section about Doinb Beifang and Mangofish, I have been spectating a challenger Irelia and Akali and he doesn't even ward or lean and he always gets ganked like wtf sometimes he dies but often he trades a 1 for 1 or outplays and kills both of them. The wave isn't even pulled for a long lane to chase just in the middle even slightly pushed out. I let go of my keyboard cause where's the fundamentals in that
Also am I wrong in thinking all of this is more prominent this season, even in season 10-12 fundamentals mattered more than champ mastery/mechanics
Maybe it’s a worthwhile death for him. If he gets a kill and the wave pushes into their tower they die he gets first blood and they lose the whole wave. He also wastes junglers time. If he outplays and kills both that’s 700g plus the enemy laner loses wave. Maybe there’s other reasons they play like that
After 2 years off the game I came back this split places iron 3 now im plat 4. Mid main. otp in mid at least I think is not as good as 1-3 champs. like if you're an akali otp and enemy picks 3 tanks including a splitter youre not doing anything. It's good to have options that cover comps imo. one ad mid one ap mid minimum are needed. you otp yone and they rammus and its game.
QSS does wonders m8. If you can control the game and understand how to push your farm outside of your lane and be where you need to be, Rammus isn’t GG.
It's actually psychology. For humans it is a lot easier to blame others as a natural defence mechanism to setbacks
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1:07:40 what you say is kinda true, but at the same time there are different kinds of people and that's a topic on which you should do some research. For example Nathan Mot (or whatever is the name of the jungler guy from BBC) has what it's called a "strong internal locus of control", just like me, and most people and therefore most league players, have what it's called a "external locus of control" (some stronger than others) and basically if by personality your locus of control is internal, you always see the problems from a different perspective, and even if you don't have the knowledge to asess if it's your responsability or not and how was it your bad or whatever, your thought is "it's my bad" and for example when I can't explain why it's my bad all what I say it "I don't know why X went that way, but it's my bad for expecting it to go in Y way", and maybe thats kinda the bad self mentality you talked a lot in many videos in bbc and here, but that bad mentality and self-blaming is still better than the mentality of "i'm at the mercy of the world" because with this mentality worst case scenario next time you will think stuff twice if it looks like a similar situation, and over time you will learn why it is or not your fault and what can you do to change ir and whatever, but with the expernal locus of control mentality there is just not a learning whatsoever it's a "unlucky" you stil don't know why, but you don't even bother to understand or anything because you blame the providence or basically stuff out of your control.
I hope I explained myself good enough about this topic.
In conclusion I think most people have an external locus of control because we as a humans don't wanna suffer and feeling like stuff is your bad is usually perceived as suffering, but some people isntead have an internal locus of control and they use the opposite pov which is also not ideal, but usually it's better whenever you want to improve at stuff, but once people build knowledge, awareness, etc. they tend to have a stronger internal locus of control because they are capable of realizing about stuff and how they affect it.
PS: I'm not an expert in psychology, and I'm not even interested, but I did some research about it since I was wondering why I always try to think on what could I have done when shit don't go the way I want in life in general while people just blame luck or whatever shit, and I came to that term, and idk how did I described it and maybe when I said majority I am wrong or whatever, I just lack the knowledge, but what I do know it's that it's a personality, so yes you can change your mindset and even have an internal locus of control pov about certain aspects of life, but since it's a personality you really can't do much to change it as a way of viewing the world, and none of the 2 kinds is better, they are just different; usually you are more successful if you have an internal but happier with an external and whatever but that goes out of the scope of this comment.
Didnt know Dyrus still played League
Bro does not look like Dyrus 💀
my bro wearing the Li Ning shirt lol
Mr fundamentals
Does anyone knows any bot content creators similar to these two amazing guys?
Reptile maybe?
Vapora dark, professor ddang (crazy mechanics), he has an English subtitle channel. I recommend both!
@leetabern1940he quit league, vapora is better I think.
@@voltegeist971 he kinda doesn't really teach, just plays the game well and makes runes guides, tier lists and etc.
@@MrBouncingDeath thanks, I'll check them out
I do not give toplaner last pick in EU because I often did and they counterpick enemy but lose lane anyways 1v1 basically being useless.
curtis ifyou want these episodes to pop off more let the other person speak more your insights are nice but yea
Woah at first it looked like diet Dyrus
The way you think about the game will either gain or lose you LP over time. If you're climbing, you're thinking about the game in a way that doesn't need correction, cause you're climbing. If you're not, trying to change how you think about the game is not going to happen in the moment, otherwise, you'd have already changed your thinking and you'd be climbing. Reviewing allows you to slow the game down and find the way you SHOULD be thinking. If you don't review, you may not ever become aware of how you should think and will never even have the chance to climb.
How was he a pro player if he OTPed Riven ?
Brokenblade OTPd Riven also
And general sniper is a probplayer now
The OTP convo really irks me.
What is the point of having over 150 champions when their mastery curves are so harsh that the everyone's effective champ pool will be under 10?
Then, for the few simple champs remaining like Malph, you get 'no skill' outcries and the probable rework/erasure.
Theres no inherent meaning. Theres not a point to everything.
Also there are one tricks for every character so clearly each one appeals to people in a different way.
Good video! I noticed u have Chinese letters on your shirt but still pronounced bei feng wrong . Wtf man
first
Champ mastery is learning how to walk and run…Fundamentals is learning to dribble and pass
Exactly what i tought when he tried to explain it with his own words, these are the TRUE fundamebtals that often get overlooked but without those you dont go anywhere and you cant be consistent
Idk.
I hand levelled account by myself to 30, started ranked, got 1 lp Master in 150 games with 63 wr. And I literally get only 20 lp per win XD
How can i even climb high elo with mmr like this?
It makes you better at the champion but does not necessarily make you a better player.
you missed the Point. If you are good at the champion and dont have to think about the Trading patterns its easier to Focus on things like resett timers wave management etc.
@@derpip8471 Nah, those thinks are made to be habit, you are missing the point here. One tricking a champion warps your perception to that champ, I know so because I use to do just that and narrow my viewpoint and have a very niche playstyle that may not have been most optimal for soloQ but let me have 63% wr. Still felt very unskilled for OTPing tho so I stopped and the champ I played had many counter picks anyway and unplayable into certain comps.
Champion mastery matters more in mid because of skillshots, you can do all the fundamentals and wave management you like but if you keep missing Syndra Q or miss Ahri E in key fights you just lose, period. All the mumbo jumbo didn't matter, end of review. Other lanes can salvage missed skills with auto attacks, in mid you're out of gas.
💀 what is blud waffling on about ☠️ sounds like a skill issue 🗣️ 🗣️ 💯
@@SynocraYou can have your opinion, but Coach Curtis has said the same about Ahri Es and Syndra Qs and Lux climbing simply from landing Es. Trying to sound cool but your opinion is hardly respectable.
@@ChimkinSendwich just dont miss your skills? youre saying champion mastery doesnt matter in toplane which is a dogshit take.
I know this will probably be ignored, but I'd appreciate it if we stopped saying "I sh!t on this guy" or variations thereof. Its revolting language. Thx.
okay how about "I peepeepoopoo'd on 'em"?
I agree with you. I hate all this dehumanization of the opponent that goes by every day. Everyone seems to forget that the other player is another human that probably wants to win just as bad as you.
@@ItsFilthyInHere I do wish that people in the game were more gentle to each-other, but knowing how things are right now it's also good to maintain some emotional distance from them for the sake of your own mental.
@@HamsterPants522 yeah it would be nice, but i doubt many people will care enough to change their behaviour in-game. I agree that you should mantain emotional distance from the game and remember that most of the things people say are from temporary rage and frustration and they don't mean it 90% of the cases.
@@ItsFilthyInHere I agree with you about dehumanization of other players, but I disagree that saying u shit on someone does that
this video is pure 🤌🤌🤌