UNTOLD STORIES OF EMINEM & PROOF (R.I.P) BEFORE THE END OF D12....
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I remember being a extra on the 8 mile movie and I met Proof. He was real cool and down to earth. He would always come and kick
it with the extras and everybody else that was hanging around. RIP in Proof.
What scene you in lol. One of my favorite movies.
No bullshit I want to know also lol just watched 8 mile again the other day
@@Sophakingreal I was in the club scene where they were doing the rap battles.
@@WiseXWiseGuy I was in the rap battle scene lol.
That's dope 💯
Man you know you old when you hear 03 and think it’s not that long ago just to realize it’s been 20 years lol.
Facts lol
Baggy pants. Jerseys. Throwbacks. Fitted. Rocawear. Fresh pairs of Air Force Ones. Or Ups how we called them in NY. Ahhh memories
Naaaahhhh bro don't do that lol why you gotta make me feel old too fam😂😂😂😂
Lol I feel you, sometimes I get the years I was in high school wrong.
Aw dam son
Eminem/Slim Shady and D12 as a whole are everything to me and whole lot of people in Africa....Nothing but love from me all the way from Kampala, Uganda.
Definitely brother 🇿🇦
That's cool AF.
Man Bizarre has definitely calmed down over the years. Eminem never really recovered after Proof passed. You can watch old videos with them together Em was constantly smiling. I saw one with them freestyling Em was sitting in the car, and proof was in the window for Mtv in like 99 I think. RIP Proof 🙏
He got better he’s gotten older and you know life goes on as time keeps moving. He’s doing fine he’s been sober for over a decade, still putting out music and dropping new merch, helping other artists producing their stuff and being featured on their tracks he’s in a good place now.
@@CapricornGilbert Oh yea definitely but u can see that after proof passed away, he aint smiling no more and not as out in the open as he used to be? Hard to explain but i do get it, he had to focus on himself and his family. I just hope he is happy now tho.
@@DorkieShortycause he lost someone that was more like kin to him. he still healing from losing his brother from another.
Kind of heartwarming to hear Biz talk about the issues with D12 in regard to "Stepping Stone". I am 100% positive that there were a TON of conversations being had behind the scenes with individual D12 members and Em at different times over how to move forward, where they were at mentally and emotionally, and how they felt about the future without Proof involved. And I'm sure that Em LOVES EVERYONE in D12 enough to respect them enough to be up front and tell them that "this is where I am at mentally" BEFORE putting "Stepping Stone" on an album so that each member would know exactly where Em was coming from and saying what he was saying.
But to hear Biz talk about it, it was obviously clear that each member was doing their 'own thing' that had gotten their attention more than any "left over feelings" about D12 after all this time. That it seems like everyone was cool with the track, because all the issues had been discussed with each other personally behind the scenes out of love and respect for what they have been through with each other over the years. And because D12 was more "Proof's baby" than Em's, that coming out and saying that it was time to put that "baby to bed" might be the right thing to do out of respect and the fact that the 'crew days' weren't really in individual people's interest at the moment.
And Em, Biz, and Kuniva have ALL said at one point or another, that they know if someone called up and wanted to do a feature, hop on a track, show up for an appearance at a show.... they were just a phone call and plane ride away from each other whenever they were needed. NOT to mention the fact that they stayed in CONSTANT contact with each other on a regular basis so that if something were to happen, the others would be aware of it and help out as much as possible. It is just that on a "business level" things might be different, but on a "personal level" they still loved each other as brothers for life.
Well said bro cuz when it's all said and done D12 and Em are brothers and their bond and love goes much deeper than hip hop and is also deeper than most of us will ever understand. I also think that trying to carry on like it was business as usual without proof would've been absolutely impossible to do and would've been disrespectful to proofs legacy as well, proof was obviously the heart and soul of D12
Em didn't tell swifty or Kuniva about the song Mr Porter is the one that told them about the track he had to tell them it was coming out and it's not a diss track. where do you get the idea they've been in constant contact I think the song itself proves that they haven't stayed in constant contact, if they were in constant contact em wouldn't feel like he needed to make the song. I'm sure there is love but it's not like you think with all these behind the scenes talks and whatnot.
This is pure Stan cope lol.
@@chadwillett619 Glad someone has a brain lol. Joe Budden even said on his podcast around the time of Kamikaze that Bizarre and Eminem hadn’t even spoken in years and it was strange how Bizarre went around defending Eminem and making diss tracks and whatnot like it was still the hayday of D12. People don’t have an appreciation for how fake the industry and people like the original commenter come up with huge paragraphs of cope.
I'm starting to love this show. Everybody listened when someone share something
Noreaga could never 😂😂😂😂
D12 was so inspirational to me as an emcee. When that new Devil’s Night tape dropped it really made me feel bars were coming back
Maaaate that album encouraged the g-unit’s and griselda’s of today
D-12 Debut with Eminem in his prime too was so 🔥 and plus every other MC (Bizaree worst by far fwiw 😆) dope beats mostly. Sophomore album only had a few keepers like 6 in the morning and a few others, but debut was mostly 🔥
@@superdopehiphop Bizarre is annoying asf!! Only because he actually can rap eg. Attack of the weirdos EP, his feature on Eminem SSEP! Basically before Em blew up Bizarre weren’t too bad tbh! It just pisses me off that he decided to rap like a clown… he tried to be too funny but it had no substance… that was his biggest problem! Shame really imagine how 🔥 the album would’ve been otherwise!!
Bizzare!!! Sheeesh! I love how all the people who know him actually call him Marshall.
Proof had a proposition, if we all band together, there ain't no stopping this shit, come up with aliases, bi-polar opposites.
-Eminem
🔥
That whole song is 🔥
What song?
@@jhawesjr85 Groundhog day
That track has a sick ass beat. The schemes is cool too
5:29 ALL THESE YEARS LATER AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THE CASE EXPLAINED LIKE THIS EVER THIS IS A VIRAL MEMORY MOMENT 🙏 U MATH, BLEW MY 🤯 12 SEC OF SILENCE FOR PROOF , THANK YOU 🙏 IN ADVANCE
🗣️💩 THAT WAS HEAVY ON DA 💙 , DAMN GOOD EPISODE HOFF
Tbh with you, I thought the story was different. I've never heard this version of the story before...
I read the vibe magazine way back then in an airport and the tale wasn't that clear🍻🙏🏻
The version that the local news gave was that Proof and the dude were playing pool and a argument started over money (they were betting on the pool game), they said Proof pulled out a gun and shot dude. The bouncer (other guy's cousin) shot Proof once in the head and twice in the chest. Again, that's the story local Detroit news stations gave.
I thought the same. Thought the circumstances was way different honestly.
Proof was my Producer/Friend/mentor when we were both on Motor City Record's. When our CEO T.Stuckey got locked up that's when Proof moved to New York then linked back up with Em... The rest is history. Proof forever will be the Mayor of my City DETROIT! R.I.P my dawg Big Proof! May the soul of your killer rot in hell #FREETSTUCKEY #RIPPROOF
Wow!! This man touched many lives! I have that SAME Proof tattoo on my arm that him and eminem have!
Is dat da same T Stuckey dat use tah hoop?
Nah… it may be that Stuckey but son lying… Plus he from Flint he ain’t know Proof trust me
Thank you for Sharing
Wow that's going in a book I'm writing called UA-cam and Bullshit.
Fire Conversation!!!!! Keep up the Great Work Math Hoffa!!!!
This energy proof brought to the group was unmatched 💯💯 god bless his soul. Bigproof4ever
It’s good seeing people showing their love for Proof respecting him. I dunno why many hate on D12 so much when really they were a really good group. I know many still hate on Eminem but Proof was that OG many had respect for what he did as he started the group and there’s a few who’re literally 💩💩 on his grave like no big deal. RIP to DeShaun Holton
How Come is legendary 🎵.
Devil's Night a classic
@@mauricefears1430 most definitely
@@JAMAICANGOLD567 good song
They hate because of the goofy mentality people wanna be tough guys and hard all the time so they hate on people like d12
Rip to Proof, the group also lost Bugz when they got signed . That story also tragic.
That was the weekend Em was performing in Detroit after he blew up too. He stormed off the stage when he tried to give a moment of silence and the crowd kept yelling.
Belle Isle was crazy back then
@@ginobenatti7830 No lie
A lot of history talk that get lost in this game. Glad to hear there are people who can talk about it still. Graig G, Super Natural, DJ Ron G, Juice Crew, Proof, Blaze battles etc.
Thanks for remembering Proof... Much Love... From the D....
Ive literally been listening to Kurt Kobain-proof all month and now this drops. LETSGOOOO
That whole proof album bops🔥🔥
Proof was my favorite in D12 for some reason “Trapped” & 40oz verse is my shit.
No matter how many times I watch this podcast I always forget that gunshot is at the end. I’m convinced math Hoffa is going to turn me deaf.
When you hear these stories, it makes you wish u were a part of the hiphop culture around these times. Sounds so lit. R.I.P Proof 🙏💯.
Dope vibe fellas! I had the pleasure of bumping into Pen & Math in Detroit...Salute! #BP4E #BigProof4Ever
#IronFist #Shady
Yo Math keep going! Legend! Respect! Format is real and honest.
Rest in peace Proof
That Stepping Stone joint 🔥🔥🔥
R.I.P PROOF 👼🙏🌹🕊️🎤💙✊🏾💯
R.I.P. Proof. It ain't the same without you here.
Lol. It's just fine
@@philipjoseph5099 lol
I love hearing them namedrop people that I have no idea about. And they talk about them like they’re legends.
Battle Rap was such a strong underground culture back in the day.
I’m from Nova Scotia Canada was lucky enough to have an aunt in Windsor Ont took me to two concerts in Detroit back in the day Eminem show at ford field and encore at tiger stadium saw all the crew and met Kon artist in the parking lot amazing memories and
Good times
We love Bizarre!!!💯💪🏻🤘🏻California Love G
Man I miss Proof. Like Bizz said after proof D12 collapsed. His death affected the city like crazy and that Toy Soldier video.....man
Nice to see biz gettin his flowers 💐
I never knew the specifics on how Proof died. That’s fucked up for real.
Same. Hearing it for the first time is even more shocking and depressing than I could've imagined. Tragic
and the motherfuckers robbed him too when he was dead. they took his chain and it was never seen again
Life lost over a pool game. Geez
@@jacobharris954 Yeah, I don’t believe the version that he just told. It makes no sense. Especially when others close to proof (including Em) have indicated that what Proof did that night was out of character..
Cuz he twisted up the story... Proof killed the nigga over the pool game and the nigga cousin who proof killed was working security at the club and shot and killed proof after proof killed his family member. That's how he beat it. The truth ain't pretty That's why Biz and give all the facts
Finally - y’all allowed the guest to speak 🗣 without talking over him !!!
What you talking about? They always let the conversation to breathe and give the guest room to express themselves....that's the main draw of the content g! But it is a barber shop and a real conversation with a lot of energy and good vibes so it's gonna be moments. No harm though
@@fishmanc5357 ppl just say anything cuz they don’t watch the full interviews 🌚
Amazing
Proof was the glue and helped Eminem nobody wanted to play with him, and now he's gone all these ppl wanna disrespect him
Who are all these people???? Cuz I haven't heard anyone show proof disrespect
@@JohnnyDanger0us i think he meant people dissing em
@@and-zw8ty Exactly
Nobody wanted to “play with him?”😂
You seem to know them real intimately.
It's really sad story that how proof went. Damn that hits hard , never knew that. The world needs love and we definitely need to control our anger and emotions. We lost so many good souls to violence and we need to learn man.
And em went through alot of hell for that . No one has to suffer and go through all those man.
Love listening to Bizarre talk
🔥🔥 👏👏 I'm blazing to this ep
people miss this mans loyalty that shows long road makes that long money
The hardest D12 song is that pistol pistol
When I got my Glock 17 a few months back I had dat on repeat 😂
I met proof in the studio where eminem recorded his infinite album. It was 2001 in greektown Detroit across from fishbones. Swifty was there too.
Every interview I've watched so bizarre is always giving Em is flower's. Regardless of what the People or other Rappers are saying about him.🇿🇦
Can't take BiZz seriously without his shower cap. Just can't... RIP Proof, probably the most charismatic character ever. Great dude! :(
This whole episode is 🔥
Proof was true to comedy and a great back up and hype person.
Its so wild heating all this, gorwing in South Africa, proof was by far my favorite D12 member. Then to hear all this and find out he pushed Em in his esrly days is so satisfying. RIP to a legend
1:10 That explains the lyric in Groundhog Day. Thought about that a lot every time I heard the song.
Devil's Night got me through alot. I still remember the day I bought the CD....right after I got my haircut. Damn time flys don't it... one of the best group rap albums EVER. I STILL BUMP IT TODAY! rip proof 🙌
Love Bizarre ❤
Lucky enough to have seen D 12 in 2002ish...Em wasnt there but Proof was such a hype dude...they killed it. Slum Vilkage was on point too that night...great memories.
Em was like biz hold my beer.😂
Man.i remember I was in a 16 emcee round robin battle at Lush Lounge in Detroit to get on 106&Park freestyle Friday's.
I remember building with this Mc called Trademark before they unveiled the board and he was like I hope I don't get Undertaker, he's a beast. Well, I drew Undertaker and got his ass with some punchlines that caught him off guard like he did Bizarre. Advanced to the next round and lost to Fat Father....I think the final battle was like a 5 round blitz between SupaMC and Marv One with Supa winning
Dude when did u ever beat me ?
Bro you lost to Swann..
@@silasrageundataka1141 Lush Lounge. Hamtramck. In the mix crew use to host it. First round. Prob around 2001ish.....I went by Seven or Seven Deadly depends on when it was.
@@samsung-eh4dv nope. It was Fat Father because my boy was down with Gordy back then and we'd hang here and there at the studio.
@@silasrageundataka1141 I met you @ Poe Whosane's birthday bash @ The I-Roc Dec 2012. I got the photo w/you & Seven The General. That was an epic night
I can't believe Proof died almost 17 years ago! Where the F does time go?
What's the real story about proof death? Why's there such a wide discrepancy between the stories about that? Even Em said he couldn't be sure what really happened
I'm the biggest EMINEM fan EVER !
Stan
I hope Em and D12 fixed their relationships... they made some history together its crazy how it ended.
They are all good, the group just naturally ended.
Yo Hoffa you need to have rah digga and young zee on MEO !!! SO much history from wyclef to Eminem to Busta !! Fugges flipmode outsidaz the stories are there !!! Bizzare did a song outside the shop with him... Make it happen
Mannn I’m fuckin blessed, I was a jit when I went to my first rap concert, The Anger Management Tour! I got to see D12 open up for Eminem! RIP PROOF
Love this
Proof a legend 💯
I can't imagine losing my best friend.
🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼
D12 Devils Night is an amazing album
RIP Proof. RIP Bugz
Bizarre sitting back with that “If you say so” face 😂. He don’t remember shit but that dusse.
“Yeah uhh I hosted a lot of shit”
So Em pulled a Verb 🔥🔥🔥🔥… SB was rapping a Remy D then Verb stepped in
Miss D12, was wearing their shirt yesterday
“THE SPIRIT OF GOD LIVES IN US…”
“Hi! My name is: chicka-chicka (Slim Shady!)…”
“These ideas are nightmares to white parents…”
“There’s a certain mystique when I speak its unique…”
“You ‘bout to witness hip-hop in its most purest…”
“I don’t know it’s just the way I am…”
“…I’m sick enough to beat you to death witta feather pillow…”
“I would like to welcome y’all to the EMINEM show…”
So?
We need Super Natural on the pod Math.
That would be 🔥🔥🔥🔥
If Esso don't do nothing, he gonna make sure Queens get their props... 🤣😂
D12 era , amazing 🤌🏽
8:02 Biz wasn't feelin it. He wasnt having it, even called him out.
He distanced so hard.
ITS HOFFA!!!
Supernatural had all his lyrics pre rehearsed, if you went to a few of his gigs in a row everything was the same to the point where you could rap along to his (off the head) freestyles
That's shitty though
NAW J U ICE THE TRUTH YALL BETTA GONE NAT COOL BUT JUICE CHICAGO WARRIOR MY DAWG🗣💪🏽💪🏽💎
Eminem GOAT , Eminem on kaikkien aikojen paras räppäri !!! , Bizarre legend , rip Proof
My mans said he was stunned & forgot his lines & Eminem just pushed him to the side & said : i got this!!!!! Of the top of his dome too !!!!!!
Em did the same thing to 50 when he was beefing Ja Rule , Eminem just pushed 50 to the side & said : i got this fitty , this literally wtf i do !!!!!!
Thats hard asf ❤
Shout outs to Bizzar
Biz is loyal to the end. ❤
Proof looking down smiling. 🫶
“Good fellas”🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥glokk look 1:40
On;y true Hip-Hop heads can enjoy these convos!
RIP Proof.
9:23 "That's all he does, thats where his legend comes from."
undataka is my guy, underrated king!💯
Big proof lives on
I think Bugz should get mentioned just as much as Proof even though he was the glue of D12 but It was Bugz that wanted Em to be in the group. That's the only reason why Eminem got in the group because of Bugaz passing.
He asked if he could fulfill Bugz’s spot in the group and they all agreed. Originally Eminem didn’t have any intention on being part of D12 but he knew how much it mattered to his friends knowing they weren’t gonna find anyone else he decided to take his spot as he signed them to his label:
Swifty was added to the group, em was already in it
This is legendary undertaker was my mentor back in the day
All the episode never end without RIP
Death is the ultimate ending my friend… Wether natural causes or taken away? People die 🤷🏽♂️, we all have too!!
You should try and get kuniva or swifty for an interview
Bizarre was my favorite out of the group. He inspired my rap and showed me it was ok to be weird.
He wore a shower cap n’ no shirt and rapped about raping people
My mother, at the age I was (roughly 13-14) told me homie ain't shit when I read he died. Was kicked out and never been back home for 17 fuckin years.
got married on April 4 2017 (rip) I cry every anniversary and Play Proof LOUD.
I telly wife "we lost a great poetic soul this day" and she may never know I'm telling a double entendre
Proof was so slept on even still .
RIP King 🕊 🎤 👑
In my head I have a dream track :
Proof, Rockness Monsta and Method Man .... All of their voices are dope their cadences their creativity their angles punchlines flow is all Dynamite 💥🎤💥
Rap god 4 life
So sad 😞
I fw this
Stepping Stone broke my heart
RIP TO THE LEGENDARY BIG PROOF!!!!!!
Shout out to the LEGENDARY JUICE, SUPERNATURAL AND CRAIG G!!!!!!
Always liked Biz always up 4 a laugh in the old videos remember them😂 Always liked D12 some gud tunes I liked there serious tunes more then the comedy ones..... Stepping Stone is🔥🔥🔥And b4 anyone says that wasn't D12 I know it was EMS tune, Shuld of got Trick Trick 2 sort that bouncer out.... RIP Proof luv from Dublin Ireland🙏🇮🇪🇺🇸🇮🇪💚
Damn bizzare your back head almost has a extra head on it goddamn bro!
I remember bizarre crying on Punked lol
"Is there two of em?" oh yeah yeah yeah, now I remember. lol
I remember the Undertaker wanted me to be his partner back in the day as well LOL we both grew up on 8 Mile off of Wyoming
Township side or the D?