The fact that Royce thinks Dr Dre would have ever come close to doing any business with Slaughterhouse after they just forced their way out of Shady explains exactly how delusional he is about the whole situation
Math's crew throwing so much disrespect to Crook and Joell just because they're interviewing Royce. They'll probably all flip 180 if Crook went on the podcast. Why would Crook suddenly do a deal just for the money after being in the game for over 20 years? If he wanted the money, he would have sold himself out and done mainstream shit. He's always been fine not being popular. He just wants to be the best lyricist in the game.
Lol. "Dre probably would of gave us 2 mill if we asked" Yeah, doubtful.. ain't no way, Dre gonna watch the way Joe moves. And just after they fight to get off Em's label, they think Dre gonna put 2 milly on them? Dre wouldn't do that to Em, period. But, ain't no way Dre wants to deal with headaches Joe might cause him. Not Worth Dres time
I heard in an interview where they said Eminem and Paul had no issues with them wanting out of contract. They said it was easy and a mutual thing business wise for the split. So I don't understand how you said they fought to get free?
I'd like to see Crook and Joell on the show now. It sounds like others are insinuating what they think happened. If a deal was brought to the table off word alone and you weren't feeling it, this situation could not have been resolved sitting around a table? Somebody is lying!
I'm wondering if Crook would want to get on the show after this. Last year he had a one-on-o e with Math and talked about Slaughterhouse. In that interview he even told Math he was getting tired of all the Slaughterhouse delays and was thinking about retiring himself. So I don't think he'll feel too good about where Math and the gang are taking this...
Joe was the problem.. Plain and simple.. Dude didn't want to rap anymore.. Royce is gullible for believing he would eventually rap 1 day.. Crook and Joell got tired of waiting.. I don't think it was about money.. They can do what they want since their owners of Slaughter House... Royce and Joe are just butt hurt that's all
They did a whole album that NEVER came out. So tell me how Joe was the problem? They all fought to get off Shady and got off. They went and did a album behind two of the members back so please tell me how Joe is the problem? When people don't like someone ya'll just ignore all facts and just say anything.
@@mrswerveon lol.. My guy look at his history.. Shit he got slapped by Wutang.. He abandoned Everyday Struggle, Rory and Mal left his ass.. This guy isn't reliable.. Can't be trusted.. He's an all around jackass..talks a good game but he can't pump it up lol 😂
Because Joe lives of drama, that's why he constantly cause trouble, he eats of that. Joe has ruined every single relationship he has ever had, be that with business, friends, family and women. All of them
@@thehandleisuseless so how do you know he ruined every relationship he has? Do you know him? Is there a such thing as someone else could have been the problem of a relationship? Tahiry has had toxic relationships with others. Is Cyn in a relationship with anyone else or Kaylin? See ya'll just repeat things other people say with no facts. Unless you was in those relationships you don't know. What I do know is, he's made a lot of people famous and rich. Tahiry, Cyn, Kaylin, Mal and Rory and he's making his current friends rich as we speak. So as much as ya'll say he "ruins" all I see is him making people you wouldn't know known and making money. And how do you know anything about his family situations intimately?
Math, please have Crook and Joell on the show to tell their side because I feel like Royce leaving a whole bunch of shit out. We keep hearing Royce and Joe side because they are the more popular members. There has to be more to the story.
I just hate how they keep leaving out the fact the Joe said he ain’t rappin no more and Royce said he ain’t rappin without him…. This was years ago and hasn’t changed meaning there was no more Slaughter House… so let’s be real nobody is wrong in this situation because everyone is speaking there truth. Crook and Joell said Slaughter House was over…Joe said that shit years ago and Royce is the man on the side like “It is what it is”
Joe has said on numerous occasions that he would rap with them once the group was off of Shady. More recently, before that Crook and Joell slaughterhouse album, Joe said he wanted to get with Royce at his studio to get the ring rust off before rapping with them as a group because Crook is such a monster lyrically. Everything that Royce has said here makes all the sense in the world.
@@bzso9603 There are numerous times saying he wouldn’t either. Straight up double talking at this point he even said it was over before giving that shady records reason. I highly doubt he would have came back to it.
Royce can turn a story around to make himself sound innocent in a heartbeat!! 😂 Now he’s a victim and he’s trying his hardest to make us understand that 1+1 = cat
I really believe Royce needs to stop talking about Slaughterhouse Crook & Joell! Remember it's been 10+ yrs since the group dropped anything an Crook & Joell was just fed up with Joe an all the BS! Once Royce could just call it like it is an just admit Joe was the biggest obstacle in them doing an album! Crook and Joell was tired of the questions from fans & the industry about the group so they told their side of the story as to why there's no Slaughterhouse album, Period! Everyone needs to stop saying they was chasing a check an for Royce to let them insinuate that is corny!
He cleared it up he said I can't make n***** want to rap if they don't want to rap, Joe Budden put out one of the dopest catalogs a rapper could put out and ends up making more doing podcasts then music he went out with a bang and always on to the money. Not a big fan of Joe as a person what is catalog is undeniable and I understand from a business standpoint why would you rap if you're making way more doing a podcast you don't understand what Joel Ortiz and Crooked I did, they started cleaning the group was done and their album cover head their old logo burning or some s*** like that while they still had tons of merch they needed to get rid of under the name slaughterhouse. Royce got the pig tatted on his hand and if they were all in one room right now it would be love when you do business with friends it gets choppy look at G-Unit 50 Cent looks at Tony Yayo and Lloyd Banks as potheads that aren't productive because he's multitasking sober getting s*** done, where Lloyd Banks could care less about the extra s***, Tony Yayo wants to clear his debt off with a hit and I ain't talking about music Banks rather be a pornstar and smoke the best weed money could buy
I've observed he has some type of nervous tick or self stimulation issue when he's speaking or thinking of what to say.. either he's playing with a straw, rubbing his beard hairs, or pacing around his studio.
Real mfs can tell the difference between crook and royce. I love Royces raps but he's an actor, and he constantly feels like he need to be the smartest dude in the room. He really thinks these big words fooling everybody into thinking he droppin wisdom on us lol, I hate that new "woke" version of him
I could watch & listen to this all day. 1 persons perspective can be totally different than the next. This is the perfect example of people needing to come 2gether & ask each other these same questions
U must be high on drugs. Royce is obviously of shit. And Math Hoffa is a groupie who's not asking the real questions like why didn't u and Joe Budden drop a Slaughter House album in over ten years
Crook already laid it out, it was about JOE BUDDEN. Crook and Joell didnt wanna leave Shady they wanted to finish Glass House 10 years ago. Joe walked out on them, mid album even though Eminem stepped aside and let them control Glass House. Joe Refused to honor the contract. Joe wouldnt do SH music unless they forced their way off Shady. Then when they did Joe was still playing games, not even answering Crooks calls.. At the end of the day Crook and Joell dont F..K with Joe anymore, he only cares about himself. Royce thinks he is so wise but doesnt understand sometimes by sitting on the fence you are actually picking a side and only fooling yourself. I personally think Royce is full of shit and more like Joe than he realizes. Royce and Joe moved on from SH they just wanted to keep Crook and Joell on the back burner in case their other projects dry up...
There’s more benefits from being positive and coming together. I wish people put differences aside more often, especially if nobody died over a situation. Just get pass it and be successful together.
@@kinguzziah1683 Grown ass men in there 40s can’t come together for a 10 song project. All this ego you was wrong and we were right nonsense. Just apologize. Do a live together in the studio and the fans will go crazy.
Man I though i never say this but ever since Royce ain’t answer Mickey facts .. I lost all kind of respect for him as an Mc .. he stay on that Politician vibe .. flips everything .. Just spit my guy !!
@@emushow9315 as an Mc you have to Respond especially when you saying you one of the Gods.. so what em can respond but u can’t .. I can’t let that one slide .. he talked his way out of that one.. Lupe came for his throat and he took the humble route .. lol come on now .. that don’t even sound right .. my option
@@gxqx797 what are you saying . U telling me why should Royce respond if there not on there level and then you saying that he got ripped by both of them.. lol 😂 Lol
Crook and Joe are not desperate for money nor did they need to market the album that way. I think they were genuinely hurt by a situation that went unresolved for 10 years and spoke on it
Joell otriz worth 3 million, crooked worth 3 million, Royce worth 3 million, Joe Budden worth 6 million. The problem was Joe Budden and Royce was waiting on Joe Budden but he is a drama queen. They should of just went on the 3 or add a new member
Once again I thoroughly disagree with this narrative that Crook and Joel were down bad and desperate for money that they made Rise and Fall for that reason. If you listen to that project, which is a dope project, they explain their side perfectly. There's no reason why people should still be speculating on the topic, all sides are out there.
One of the first things crook and Joell did was sell merch 😂 you guys are so basic to the business. They were desperate and were willing to throw their friends under the bus for a temp bag.
@@PardonMyPresence But the merch was tied to the music. The music was there. All musicians put out merch. My comment was because that was the only thing Royce has said they could've had. There was never gonna be new Slaughterhouse music
@@fairgamewithtjorum seemed to me the crook and joel at least laid out evidence for why they did things the way they did. Esso is just assuming they were hurting for money and running with it. Hopefully they get crook or Joel up there soon though.
@@dloftan5539 negative. I’m pushing common sense like Essco saying in the video. Which is “Crooked & Joel” needed the money…. So Joe & Royce shouldn’t be painted as the bad guys because they handle their business better. Versus Crook & Joel really need this “1 Magical Deal” for bread. Not gon lie as vets in the game Crook & Joel still shouldn’t be living off advances from record labels 🥱 Tragic
He isn't even comfortable or confident, hand in front of his face with the straw too. He knows. It's like a comfort blanket for a kid. So sad to see how far this man has fell in the past year
@@johnathanmcdaniels4483 have you not been watching him for a year or more? I'm not saying he's not still a top tier rapper (even though mickey facts track kinda puts his whole style down lol), im saying the way he's been conducting himself is just pitiful and sad
@@trevorhembrough1290 well I guess you'll miss out on somebody who bodied royce so bad he didn't even respond. Well he did, just bitching on Instagram lives instead of a record lmao
royce is real as hell. sometimes people make mistakes, we're all only human, but he's willing to talk it out and as such come to an understandment. he squashes that shit asap. that's how a grown ass man handles things. it doesn't have to come down to some bullshit. it might cause entertainment for some fans, but it's not worth it in the long run.
@@andresmeraz1996 it looks like it i do something similar i tend to hold something in my hand or tap my knee if im sitting these days is hard not to suffer from anxiety
Dude , Math throws sooooo much shade at Crook and Joell especially. Like geezus bro. Even had the nerve to say verbatim (“well it’s real easy to miss whatever Joell dropping”) and then laughed. Respect the guys and their contribution to the genre
Joell has never gotten the push from a marketing and management standpoint that other artists seem to receive. Other than Slaughterhouse, his other projects and overall career arent known by people who don't follow the underground rap scene. It sucks that someone as talented as Joell hasn't gotten the attention his talent warrants because other people have dropped the ball in how they marketed him. I'm not sure if that's a management issue or what, but it's unfortunate.
I get being in between that whole situation but if you feel that strongly that someone in your camp is in the wrong as a friend you should be able to call them on it. If they can't take constructive criticism they aren't really your friend.
Exactly...and Joe wasnt able to. Bc only when your able to objectively take a look at your actions and see your role in them and what you could have done differently......can growth and reconciliation/ammends take place.
The bias from you guys is wild.... there's so many things about the SH situation that Royce says that is verifiably false... he acts like there wasn't receipts from the entire time-frame... but I guess you want to take the sides that can help with business relationships
So what are the receipts cause all I see is 3 side: Crook/Joel, Joe, Royce been stuck somewhere in the middle, then behind the scenes shit we’ll never know 🥱
The only thing that conversations like this create is more separation. The only person qualified to speak on the situation is Royce. Even then, he can only give his perspective. Everyone else there simply jumps out the window to say that the other members were dirty and greedy. That is all speculation, you don’t know their motivation. They each have come out publicly and said that money was not the factor behind making that record. So are they lying? Are you just bashing their character because Royce is present? At some point people need to stop assuming they know and accept that only these four MCs know the true story. Fact is, until they can all get in one room and hash it out and squash it, these conversation will only make the divide bigger. Tell you one thing, if they can work it out, they can change the logo to a pig with wings rising from the ashes and call it the Resurrection of Slaughterhouse.
The problem with these guys' arguments is that it revolves around money. Not every thing is about money, and this is only Royce's side of the story. And he's certainly not stepping in to add context; he's just letting these guys run with whatever theories they can come up with. Smfh
Did you listen to The Rise & Fall album? Shits a love letter and closure to the fans and hip hop. I agree Crook and Joell didnt do it for the money and it's obvious in the lyrics of the album
Couple things about this interview: 1. Why does Royce keep chewing on this straw and putting his hand in front of his mouth when he talks. 2. Why does Keno keep talking like he's getting interviewed? It's Royce's interview, so he should let his artist answer the questions like he's capable of doing.
I couldn't understand why either he normally isn't chewing on a straw during interviews or his Instagram lives... N his manager always talking like he's the talent
In public I wouldn’t imagine if Joe didn’t apologize that probably would have gotten nasty I mean look what happened to Mickey factz got fucked up because of the situation
Why doesn't anyone ever ask Royce what does he think him and Joe could've done differently or better? Him & Joe never discuss that, it's always pointing the finger at the other group members. Where they do that at?
Joes stance is always the same. Im retired and im not rapping if we dont own it. I dont think royce can do anything different. His stance was always im not rapping without the 4 of us. Crook was floating the idea of replacing joe with a new member to put music out. Joell im not sure what hos stance was Prior to putting this album out and the live videos.
Funny how the two in the frame with Royce ended up leaving the show acrimoniously. Dude in pink explaining like he's making an excuse for himself. "Tell Maff It was just business".
Yo if you STILL caught up on Slaughterhouse as a fan, it's over. Get over it. If you're focused on Royce dissing Lupe again. It's over. Get over it. Then question yourself, are you really a fan or an merely an instigating onlooker
The dude saying "money, moneeeey,..." did he listen to the other side at all? They've said this has been going on for a long time. Years. The fans want answers. They gave answers.
I ride with Math’s explanation. I think it’s rooted in jealousy. If it was a money thing they could have A.) Asked the group for help or B.) Planned WITH the group to do a fake beef for sales then reunite with a surprise album. For men in their position, there are countless options to get money without choosing betrayal…unless you are envious/jealous.
Finally someone making sense of things... how you got the brand of Slaughterhouse and not making $$ off of a name yall built together. Still could of made Slaughter house music with just two people and had royce do a song. Bunch of singles no album snd still made great $$
It's not even jealousy. The problem was always Joe's ego. Joe enjoys being the one in control and he likes to toy with and diminish others so he can feel above them. He's incredibly manipulative. There's countless examples we can point to on this pattern of behaviour with him, but very tellingly was anytime Joe and crook have had to interact on a camera....Joe tries his usual tactics and crook is stone faced and legit not falling for one single bit of it. I've seen interviews with those two be awkward as fuck. It's palpable that crook does not like when Joe tries it with the bullshit. Joe could not manipulate crook, and he could not demean him. Crook wouldn't fucking let him. The whole issue was Joe saying he wasn't rapping anymore, which IS what he said, and not just publicly. He said that to crook, and otherwise dodged crooks calls. Joe wanted to be the one in control, the top dog, the powerful one....the one the others were DEPENDANT on. And he didn't give a fuck how that impacted anyone else. Crook simply said "no" to Joe's ways and refused to BE a dependant.
Crooked doesn't have a reason to be jealous of Joe & Royce nor be desperate for money. He's the CEO of his own record label (C.O.B Digital) and Vice President of another label (Treacherous Records). He even has his own talk show you can watch on UA-cam (Crook's Corner). He also did an interview for Eminem on it 2 years ago plus he had a feature on Em's last album. Crooked loves Slaughterhouse, he just wanted the group to reunite for one last time and give the fans closer... nothing more nothing less.
For them to say Crook and Joell did what they did for marketing and money is clownish, why trying to insult them like that. They spoke their side and their feelings about it. They were in it. Wtf
You guys missed a lot of key questions and seemed to just roll with Royce’s version of things without much push back or interrogation. Some questions you should have asked: did you or Joe try to get any other deals? Did you or Joe make any moves to monetize Slaughter House in any of the ways you listed (merch, NFT, etc)? If the answer to those questions is no, then you could have proposed that perhaps that’s where the move from Crook and Joel stemmed from. They could have seen it as you guys not being as passionate or serious about the group. Add to that some questions about the communication failings from Royce’s side (like did he think there were any failings at all from his side) and it would have been more interesting or fruitful. As it is, this is just coming across as a bit too soft ball or d**k riding line of discussion. Also would make it super cringe if crook or Joel ever took the chair and you guys then didn’t ask them “did you do it because you needed the money, because that’s what it looked like to us” since that appears to be your collective stance
They are so leaving out the fact that it was 10 years 9 on shady 1 off and nothing happened they were done after that or the fact that joe said he doesnt honor contracts so even if he was receptive to any deal they brought how can they trust he wont do the same thing again and since joe aint trust worthy and royce wont move without joe that leaves slaughter house defunct
They didn't allow enough time to even get another deal. That's royce entire issue. Crook was dead set on that deal. And merch won't do any good because the group wasn't active....you have to come back outside so ppl can see again in order to sell them something. They had just got out of the shady deal for a year.....that's nothing in the music industry. It take most artists that long to make an album!!! I'd bet there's more to the story, but the more it plays out, it looks like the guys just needed the quick lick....
@@nurangetv how much time is needed? They spent a year getting off shady and they had been off Shady for a year when this shit happened, so that’s 2 years to workshop deals. Not “get a deal”, just workshop deals. Crook didn’t have a deal. He had a proposal from someone who might give them a deal. And he had that Bc he was workshopping the group when seemingly nobody else was. If Crook had time, everybody else had time.
@@nurangetv you’re speculating there. My entire point was that it would have been a better interview if they asked him point blank what moves or attempts he and Joe made during the year window they were off Shady. If the answer is that they tried x, y and z but weren’t allowed to see how those panned out because the other two rushed the situation, then they have a valid point framing it as a foul move or that they needed the money and so on. However, if Royce were to say that they didn’t actually make any moves during the year off shady then it plays to Crook and Joel’s narrative that Royce and Joe weren’t serious and were just dragging things out.
He said he rides with Joe that he has strained relationships because of Joe , Marshall and others might have no said much but Joel and crooked see that as he only does what Joe wants
This is the most confusing - I don't even know what to call it. Like they all been there and know where it can and could go from jump. Yet they all acting like they were surprised at Joe, shocked at crooked and Joel, and flabbergasted at Royce. Like none of them knew nothing bout each other or had a history out there. What has happened is an outcome that was very possible that anybody that knew was aware, could happen. And a good percent scenario just played out that way.
It's too much speculation for something both Crook and Joell have already told yall their reasoning behind it. Imagine you were apart of a group for a second and at every single show, every day somebody is asking you about the group and what's the hold up and you know you've done everything you can to give the fans what they're asking for and at this point you don't have an answer? Eventually you get tired of saying the same shit over and over again so you have 2 choices, either let the world know it's not happening like they did or you keep holding out blind faith for the slimmest possibility of it happening and continuing making empty promises
I dont think they did it for money…of course everyone wants to be paid for their talents but I think they wanted to rap and explain their story that the fans wanted to hear…simple…
@@MichaelLee-pl4sh We know Royce has his own lane, I think Chris means Royce would struggle being known in the public eye without his affiliation with EM He's already an underrated emcee, but would Royce be known without the EM connection or would he be more under the radar/ under appreciated section like Black Thought, Elzhi, and Immortal Technique type guys. Who knows
Maybe is not about money maybe it's just them wanted to rap and since it's taking forever to put the group back together they're like forget it then let's close this chapter in our lives
Royce and Joe need to stop it. Crook said it was about closure for the fans. If you watching this you no. Royce acting like crook and Joel made no Vaseline towards them
That’s stupid on there part if they thought that way . It’s a valuable asset they have ownership in and can monetize for that rest of there lives . Why would you end something that can feed your family for decades.
Crazy thing is Em wanted slaughterhouse to be the best rap group ever he didn’t care about the money and that’s facts
💯💯💯
Yes
And you know this because you were inside Em’s mind and saw his real thoughts or knew what was in his heart or because he said it.
@Local PPC it's Eminem, if he wanted money...he'd find the hottest unsigned artist.....but no, he found the most lyrical group
You just took exactly what Eminem said on the sway interview and then you put it in a comment dude be original
The Slaughterhouse thing is very unfortunate. Feel like the group dissolved before they really hit a peak.
Only two people to blame and that's Joe and Royce
Can’t make music when one memeber don’t wanna rap
They never even took off, they would be the worlds greatest
@@melvinsagini1198 Slaughterhouse didn't make songs for women or the radio, so how could they be considered the world's greatest?
They had a ceiling. They were never gonna be big.
The fact that Royce thinks Dr Dre would have ever come close to doing any business with Slaughterhouse after they just forced their way out of Shady explains exactly how delusional he is about the whole situation
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💯
Thats a grown man with a straw in his mouth the whole time.
He's holding it up to his mouth like its a microphone 🎤.
WEIRD
I'm pretty sure royce knows dr dre better than you bro
@@Quinn1998 I’m pretty sure I know common sense more than you, bro!
@@khairt1731 the weird part is he did the same with a straw at the breakfast club
Math's crew throwing so much disrespect to Crook and Joell just because they're interviewing Royce. They'll probably all flip 180 if Crook went on the podcast. Why would Crook suddenly do a deal just for the money after being in the game for over 20 years? If he wanted the money, he would have sold himself out and done mainstream shit. He's always been fine not being popular. He just wants to be the best lyricist in the game.
Exactly
That's just journalism, they want the interview so they have to be on his side
Facts
Crook was wrong for not telling Royce they are putting out an album like that. That's one fact Everyone admitted
Bunch of yes men. I caught that too.
Lol. "Dre probably would of gave us 2 mill if we asked"
Yeah, doubtful.. ain't no way, Dre gonna watch the way Joe moves. And just after they fight to get off Em's label, they think Dre gonna put 2 milly on them?
Dre wouldn't do that to Em, period. But, ain't no way Dre wants to deal with headaches Joe might cause him. Not Worth Dres time
I heard in an interview where they said Eminem and Paul had no issues with them wanting out of contract. They said it was easy and a mutual thing business wise for the split. So I don't understand how you said they fought to get free?
100% Dre rides with Em over any of those dudes
100% Dre rides with Em over any of those dudes
After dre drama with 2pac and the game
He's likely hates drama with passion
After dre drama with 2pac and the game
He's likely hates drama with passion
I'd like to see Crook and Joell on the show now. It sounds like others are insinuating what they think happened. If a deal was brought to the table off word alone and you weren't feeling it, this situation could not have been resolved sitting around a table? Somebody is lying!
Facts
They definitely need an M.E.O interview, to explain their pov and because they are legends in their own right.
Joe wasn't gone do the album anyway......especially for 200 racks
Real Talk
Well, to be fair, Crooked I and Joell Ortiz both put their side and how they felt all on wax… So do we really need to heat their side of things?? Js
So much disrespect to Crook and Joell in under 15 minutes they’ve been called broke, jealous, haters, ungrateful, naive and disloyal snakes.
Facts
Especially after they took an L for 10 years for joe and royce
Damn lol
To be honest, they were all hypothetical scenarios though. All started with ".... maybe..."
I'm wondering if Crook would want to get on the show after this. Last year he had a one-on-o e with Math and talked about Slaughterhouse. In that interview he even told Math he was getting tired of all the Slaughterhouse delays and was thinking about retiring himself. So I don't think he'll feel too good about where Math and the gang are taking this...
Joe was the problem.. Plain and simple.. Dude didn't want to rap anymore.. Royce is gullible for believing he would eventually rap 1 day.. Crook and Joell got tired of waiting.. I don't think it was about money.. They can do what they want since their owners of Slaughter House... Royce and Joe are just butt hurt that's all
Joe is always the problem
They did a whole album that NEVER came out. So tell me how Joe was the problem? They all fought to get off Shady and got off. They went and did a album behind two of the members back so please tell me how Joe is the problem? When people don't like someone ya'll just ignore all facts and just say anything.
@@mrswerveon lol.. My guy look at his history.. Shit he got slapped by Wutang.. He abandoned Everyday Struggle, Rory and Mal left his ass.. This guy isn't reliable.. Can't be trusted.. He's an all around jackass..talks a good game but he can't pump it up lol 😂
Because Joe lives of drama, that's why he constantly cause trouble, he eats of that. Joe has ruined every single relationship he has ever had, be that with business, friends, family and women. All of them
@@thehandleisuseless so how do you know he ruined every relationship he has? Do you know him? Is there a such thing as someone else could have been the problem of a relationship? Tahiry has had toxic relationships with others. Is Cyn in a relationship with anyone else or Kaylin? See ya'll just repeat things other people say with no facts. Unless you was in those relationships you don't know. What I do know is, he's made a lot of people famous and rich. Tahiry, Cyn, Kaylin, Mal and Rory and he's making his current friends rich as we speak. So as much as ya'll say he "ruins" all I see is him making people you wouldn't know known and making money. And how do you know anything about his family situations intimately?
Y'all dragging Crook and Joell through the mud without getting their side. That's f***ed up! You need them on the show now.
Royce's body language tells he was uncomfortable the whole time hiding behind that straw.
And slouching in his 🪑
I noticed it too,he seem like he is lying/talking out his ass
Thank you somebody said it
Cuz hes hiding his new teeth. U hear how his voice is whistly? He had a bunch of dental work
What can he do? He's caught up in a mess created by others.
Math, please have Crook and Joell on the show to tell their side because I feel like Royce leaving a whole bunch of shit out. We keep hearing Royce and Joe side because they are the more popular members. There has to be more to the story.
That’s just it ….there IS!!!!
Crook and Joell put out an album, whoever wants to hear their side, go listen to that. You didn’t so there you go
They've been telling their story to anyone who'd listen. Those interviews aren't hard to find at all.
Still have em come to math podcast so they can talk 3hrs
@@warnutztheloser facts we just want to hear their side!
I just hate how they keep leaving out the fact the Joe said he ain’t rappin no more and Royce said he ain’t rappin without him…. This was years ago and hasn’t changed meaning there was no more Slaughter House… so let’s be real nobody is wrong in this situation because everyone is speaking there truth. Crook and Joell said Slaughter House was over…Joe said that shit years ago and Royce is the man on the side like “It is what it is”
No he said as long as it’s on shady it’s over
They talked about it in another clip
Nah him saying that shady stuff is new
He said years ago slaughterhouse was over
Joe has said on numerous occasions that he would rap with them once the group was off of Shady. More recently, before that Crook and Joell slaughterhouse album, Joe said he wanted to get with Royce at his studio to get the ring rust off before rapping with them as a group because Crook is such a monster lyrically. Everything that Royce has said here makes all the sense in the world.
@@bzso9603 There are numerous times saying he wouldn’t either. Straight up double talking at this point he even said it was over before giving that shady records reason. I highly doubt he would have came back to it.
Royce can turn a story around to make himself sound innocent in a heartbeat!! 😂 Now he’s a victim and he’s trying his hardest to make us understand that 1+1 = cat
He got white man emotions
Rather have emotions of “a white man” then reactions of a “black man”
@@CantdoitWontdoit Damn bro. Nigga that's a bar.
You mean like killing my wife and then the kids and then commit suicide? Right on fam.
@@mwambak1438 more bars then the Vegas strip!
I really believe Royce needs to stop talking about Slaughterhouse Crook & Joell! Remember it's been 10+ yrs since the group dropped anything an Crook & Joell was just fed up with Joe an all the BS! Once Royce could just call it like it is an just admit Joe was the biggest obstacle in them doing an album! Crook and Joell was tired of the questions from fans & the industry about the group so they told their side of the story as to why there's no Slaughterhouse album, Period! Everyone needs to stop saying they was chasing a check an for Royce to let them insinuate that is corny!
Facts!
Forreal its bs because Royce and Crook arent that desperate for money lol
He cleared it up he said I can't make n***** want to rap if they don't want to rap, Joe Budden put out one of the dopest catalogs a rapper could put out and ends up making more doing podcasts then music he went out with a bang and always on to the money. Not a big fan of Joe as a person what is catalog is undeniable and I understand from a business standpoint why would you rap if you're making way more doing a podcast you don't understand what Joel Ortiz and Crooked I did, they started cleaning the group was done and their album cover head their old logo burning or some s*** like that while they still had tons of merch they needed to get rid of under the name slaughterhouse. Royce got the pig tatted on his hand and if they were all in one room right now it would be love when you do business with friends it gets choppy look at G-Unit 50 Cent looks at Tony Yayo and Lloyd Banks as potheads that aren't productive because he's multitasking sober getting s*** done, where Lloyd Banks could care less about the extra s***, Tony Yayo wants to clear his debt off with a hit and I ain't talking about music Banks rather be a pornstar and smoke the best weed money could buy
Didn't ten years go by without anything happening with slaughterhouse? Now they are talking about merchandise and nft's wtf
they didn't own the company... why would you release merch to pay someone else
@@mrtllove they were free from the label like at least a calendar year
Fax like a century
😂😂😂
Royce definition of friendship and his actions don’t match up
That's cause he a 🐍
Da Snake
Why is Royce talking into that straw like its a Mic?
He just disrespect all the energy in the room with that stupid ass chewing straw the whole interview
Faaaaacts
Nigga 50yo and still insecure
I see I'm not the only one who's thinking that 🤔...🤣🤣🤣
I've observed he has some type of nervous tick or self stimulation issue when he's speaking or thinking of what to say.. either he's playing with a straw, rubbing his beard hairs, or pacing around his studio.
Real mfs can tell the difference between crook and royce. I love Royces raps but he's an actor, and he constantly feels like he need to be the smartest dude in the room. He really thinks these big words fooling everybody into thinking he droppin wisdom on us lol, I hate that new "woke" version of him
Thank you lol
Me too 💯
You just sound mad. Royce don’t know you and you don’t know him. You not real you just about mfer with an opinion.
Expand your vocabulary and drop that word woke.
Another crybaby comment
I could watch & listen to this all day. 1 persons perspective can be totally different than the next. This is the perfect example of people needing to come 2gether & ask each other these same questions
U must be high on drugs. Royce is obviously of shit. And Math Hoffa is a groupie who's not asking the real questions like why didn't u and Joe Budden drop a Slaughter House album in over ten years
Crook already laid it out, it was about JOE BUDDEN. Crook and Joell didnt wanna leave Shady they wanted to finish Glass House 10 years ago. Joe walked out on them, mid album even though Eminem stepped aside and let them control Glass House. Joe Refused to honor the contract. Joe wouldnt do SH music unless they forced their way off Shady. Then when they did Joe was still playing games, not even answering Crooks calls.. At the end of the day Crook and Joell dont F..K with Joe anymore, he only cares about himself.
Royce thinks he is so wise but doesnt understand sometimes by sitting on the fence you are actually picking a side and only fooling yourself. I personally think Royce is full of shit and more like Joe than he realizes. Royce and Joe moved on from SH they just wanted to keep Crook and Joell on the back burner in case their other projects dry up...
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There’s more benefits from being positive and coming together. I wish people put differences aside more often, especially if nobody died over a situation. Just get pass it and be successful together.
Damn EGO strikes again.
Man if only.
Nobody died or got sued. Just fix it
@@markellkb15 facts
@@kinguzziah1683 Grown ass men in there 40s can’t come together for a 10 song project. All this ego you was wrong and we were right nonsense. Just apologize. Do a live together in the studio and the fans will go crazy.
Man I though i never say this but ever since Royce ain’t answer Mickey facts .. I lost all kind of respect for him as an Mc .. he stay on that Politician vibe .. flips everything .. Just spit my guy !!
Why wud he reply? None of Lupe or Mickey are on his level, its a waste of time.
@@emushow9315 as an Mc you have to Respond especially when you saying you one of the Gods.. so what em can respond but u can’t .. I can’t let that one slide .. he talked his way out of that one.. Lupe came for his throat and he took the humble route .. lol come on now .. that don’t even sound right .. my option
@@emushow9315 lmao. Its well known that both lupe ad mickey bodied him on they replies. You can't decipher bars if you think Royce bars where harder 🤦
@@gxqx797 what are you saying . U telling me why should Royce respond if there not on there level and then you saying that he got ripped by both of them.. lol 😂
Lol
Fax he got cooked n pussied out😞🤣🤣
Crook and Joe are not desperate for money nor did they need to market the album that way. I think they were genuinely hurt by a situation that went unresolved for 10 years and spoke on it
They needed money.
They definitely needed money
Joell otriz worth 3 million, crooked worth 3 million, Royce worth 3 million, Joe Budden worth 6 million.
The problem was Joe Budden and Royce was waiting on Joe Budden but he is a drama queen. They should of just went on the 3 or add a new member
@@LuisPerez-ws6db facts
@@LuisPerez-ws6db Look at how much harder Joell and Crook have to work for their money vs Royce and Joe. They needed that money.
Once again I thoroughly disagree with this narrative that Crook and Joel were down bad and desperate for money that they made Rise and Fall for that reason. If you listen to that project, which is a dope project, they explain their side perfectly. There's no reason why people should still be speculating on the topic, all sides are out there.
Royce's answer is NFTs and merch? 🤦🏼♂️
The fans wanted music, Crook & Joell gave us music.
Exactly. Joe bring sooooo much drama that it’s bleeding into Royce’s side of things.
@@EverydayWithBobby Royce drama himself .
One of the first things crook and Joell did was sell merch 😂 you guys are so basic to the business. They were desperate and were willing to throw their friends under the bus for a temp bag.
@@PardonMyPresence while joe and Royce do what ? Sit on they hands ? Both Royce and joe some lames
@@PardonMyPresence But the merch was tied to the music. The music was there. All musicians put out merch. My comment was because that was the only thing Royce has said they could've had. There was never gonna be new Slaughterhouse music
I don't like the way esso is assuming what crook and joel were thinking
But isn’t that what fans are doing with Joe & Royce “Assuming” their in the wrong 🤔🤔
@@fairgamewithtjorum seemed to me the crook and joel at least laid out evidence for why they did things the way they did. Esso is just assuming they were hurting for money and running with it. Hopefully they get crook or Joel up there soon though.
@@fairgamewithtjorum you in the comments meat gobblin Royce
@@dloftan5539 negative. I’m pushing common sense like Essco saying in the video. Which is “Crooked & Joel” needed the money….
So Joe & Royce shouldn’t be painted as the bad guys because they handle their business better.
Versus Crook & Joel really need this “1 Magical Deal” for bread. Not gon lie as vets in the game Crook & Joel still shouldn’t be living off advances from record labels 🥱
Tragic
I got to rap for Royce the other day. Super dope moment!!
What you spit
@@shaieresmirnoff Yoga flames
How did it go? You have an ig? I’ll follow you. I make beats but I’m not great yet. Maybe I can send you stuff for lyrical exercise. I’m Effin-Nice
Wtf is that thing royce keeps chewing on
He isn't even comfortable or confident, hand in front of his face with the straw too. He knows. It's like a comfort blanket for a kid. So sad to see how far this man has fell in the past year
How has Royce fell?
@@johnathanmcdaniels4483 have you not been watching him for a year or more? I'm not saying he's not still a top tier rapper (even though mickey facts track kinda puts his whole style down lol), im saying the way he's been conducting himself is just pitiful and sad
he prolly got shit in his mouth or sum relax lmao
@@ja9145 That’s not “falling,” though.
And IDK who this Mickey Facts clown even is, and I ain’t trying to find out, either.
@@trevorhembrough1290 well I guess you'll miss out on somebody who bodied royce so bad he didn't even respond. Well he did, just bitching on Instagram lives instead of a record lmao
Sometimes your best friend turns out to be an anchor holding you down. Don’t let years go by finding this out later in life.
Royce is delusional. Dre wasn’t gonna give shit for washed up SH 🙄
Especially not after you did em and paul dirty
Laughed my ass off when i heard that 😂😂😂
royce is real as hell. sometimes people make mistakes, we're all only human, but he's willing to talk it out and as such come to an understandment. he squashes that shit asap. that's how a grown ass man handles things. it doesn't have to come down to some bullshit. it might cause entertainment for some fans, but it's not worth it in the long run.
100
He didn’t apply the same standards to Crook and Joel as he did to Joe. Joe made wrong decisions and Royce rode with him. Again.
As a slaughterhouse fan and fan of all MCs as individuals I hope they can all come together and be good on professional and personal level.
Everybody wants that
Joe Budden is a pain in the rear to work with and, that’s the problem. Joe always been difficult to work
It’s over and dead
That straw is killing me. Dont understand why he kept it to his face the while time. Good interview as usual. Keep'em coming.....
Yeah like your a grown up...It looks like he's nervous
I think he has some anxiety issues or hes just really weird
@@DanielFerreira-ku1gx probably have anxiety because he’s been fighting keep staying sober for so long
@@andresmeraz1996 it looks like it i do something similar i tend to hold something in my hand or tap my knee if im sitting these days is hard not to suffer from anxiety
@@jonw.415is actually something to keep him focused. trying to stop smoking too
Dude , Math throws sooooo much shade at Crook and Joell especially. Like geezus bro. Even had the nerve to say verbatim (“well it’s real easy to miss whatever Joell dropping”) and then laughed. Respect the guys and their contribution to the genre
It might be some background Brooklyn problems we dont know about.
Idk why the hate 😕 Joell man smdh
Yeah that's odd, as if Math's projects don't go under the radar.
Joell has never gotten the push from a marketing and management standpoint that other artists seem to receive. Other than Slaughterhouse, his other projects and overall career arent known by people who don't follow the underground rap scene. It sucks that someone as talented as Joell hasn't gotten the attention his talent warrants because other people have dropped the ball in how they marketed him. I'm not sure if that's a management issue or what, but it's unfortunate.
Joe budden will be the end of royce da 5'9 😒
@@flygenyus2186 it'll be too late before he'll realise it
Agreed...I feel like Em and Royce have been together from the start and I don't know how he is so loyal to Joe? What has Joe done for anyone else?
I mean they both snakes 😂
@@medleyaliesha , may be because it is not on the Internet. And I bet you don't know him personally to even know.
Joel & Crooked wanted to do it and Royce & Joe didn’t simple as that. If they weren’t “brothers” there’d be lawsuits.
Simple as dat u said it best.
I get being in between that whole situation but if you feel that strongly that someone in your camp is in the wrong as a friend you should be able to call them on it. If they can't take constructive criticism they aren't really your friend.
Royce is loyal to the 💰
Exactly...and Joe wasnt able to. Bc only when your able to objectively take a look at your actions and see your role in them and what you could have done differently......can growth and reconciliation/ammends take place.
I appreciate all that you have done for us
The bias from you guys is wild.... there's so many things about the SH situation that Royce says that is verifiably false... he acts like there wasn't receipts from the entire time-frame... but I guess you want to take the sides that can help with business relationships
So what are the receipts cause all I see is 3 side: Crook/Joel, Joe, Royce been stuck somewhere in the middle, then behind the scenes shit we’ll never know 🥱
Please inform us of the dealings since you’re so knowledgeable
Crook needs to come on and tell the trurh
@@hidingid that part…
It’s easy to see Crook did all of this to drum up some HYPE for him & Joel’s mid project 🥱
@@fairgamewithtjorum crooks story is the only one that hasn’t changed yet 🤷♀️ Royce’s changed every interview and Instagram live lol
I don’t stick my friends in trash when they make mistakes.” 👏👏👏
The only thing that conversations like this create is more separation. The only person qualified to speak on the situation is Royce. Even then, he can only give his perspective. Everyone else there simply jumps out the window to say that the other members were dirty and greedy. That is all speculation, you don’t know their motivation. They each have come out publicly and said that money was not the factor behind making that record. So are they lying? Are you just bashing their character because Royce is present? At some point people need to stop assuming they know and accept that only these four MCs know the true story. Fact is, until they can all get in one room and hash it out and squash it, these conversation will only make the divide bigger. Tell you one thing, if they can work it out, they can change the logo to a pig with wings rising from the ashes and call it the Resurrection of Slaughterhouse.
Thank You! Someone that's actually making any sense
@@JRD1990 Appreciate that Justin
i hate royce's new overconfident egotistical demeanor, but the mans is still like top 10 to me
So proud of math
Math ... U doing your thing man... 💯
The problem with these guys' arguments is that it revolves around money. Not every thing is about money, and this is only Royce's side of the story. And he's certainly not stepping in to add context; he's just letting these guys run with whatever theories they can come up with. Smfh
Did you listen to The Rise & Fall album? Shits a love letter and closure to the fans and hip hop. I agree Crook and Joell didnt do it for the money and it's obvious in the lyrics of the album
Couple things about this interview: 1. Why does Royce keep chewing on this straw and putting his hand in front of his mouth when he talks.
2. Why does Keno keep talking like he's getting interviewed? It's Royce's interview, so he should let his artist answer the questions like he's capable of doing.
why do you care?! you guys r mad weird
@@jayclearmen411 loooool
I couldn't understand why either he normally isn't chewing on a straw during interviews or his Instagram lives... N his manager always talking like he's the talent
Crooked I never making it big solo is still baffling to me him and Royce are by far the best in that group
SLAUGHTERHOUSE IS DONE
You think math was thinking the whole time, “hey man can we get rid of the straw? We have a trash can over here.”
How long after the meal did Royce save that straw?
He had it since the breakfast club interview earlier! Lol!
It’s a nervous thing 100%. That’s why he’s always walking about in Instagram live too, definitely got social anxiety.
Ok, cool, but when Joe said ish about Wu it never directly affected Royce's friendships, business or livelihood.
In public I wouldn’t imagine if Joe didn’t apologize that probably would have gotten nasty
I mean look what happened to Mickey factz got fucked up because of the situation
I definitely want to see Crook and Joel on here, to hear their perspective.
GOTTA get crooked I and Joe on here now Math!!! I see dem subscribers doubled!!!! Keep goin fellas
Why doesn't anyone ever ask Royce what does he think him and Joe could've done differently or better? Him & Joe never discuss that, it's always pointing the finger at the other group members. Where they do that at?
Thinking the same thing
Joes stance is always the same. Im retired and im not rapping if we dont own it. I dont think royce can do anything different. His stance was always im not rapping without the 4 of us. Crook was floating the idea of replacing joe with a new member to put music out. Joell im not sure what hos stance was Prior to putting this album out and the live videos.
Funny how the two in the frame with Royce ended up leaving the show acrimoniously. Dude in pink explaining like he's making an excuse for himself. "Tell Maff It was just business".
Fam it’s been 12 years!!!.. even the greats like prince, Michael etc never took that long to release albums smh 🤦🏾♂️
Tut, tut.....you can never trust someone who's friends with both sides.....
Yo if you STILL caught up on Slaughterhouse as a fan, it's over. Get over it.
If you're focused on Royce dissing Lupe again. It's over. Get over it.
Then question yourself, are you really a fan or an merely an instigating onlooker
Bingo !!!!
Snapple fact!
Ffffaaacts
Royce started the beef and ran from it, you co-sign that shit 😟 hoped on video's asking for help😐
Then what are these guys in the room? ESSO and others are instigating no?
That is a real friend. Great quality.
This is How Men conduct themselves when dealing with people/friends/business relationships.
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Something wrong with Royce mouth or something. This shit been looking crazy for months
@@quankillmongerI've been saying this too. Super weird behavior to have a discussion and have your hand covering your mouth the entire time.
While y’all focusing on his mouth, maybe he has cold sore but who cares.
@@Sangotayo He been like that for months. Like 8 months. You can't not notice while you talking shit
I don't believe anyone would have offered a better deal to slaughterhouse than 7 figures for one album with ownership.
"How do i know i can get money from another label if i never spoke to them" respect Royce! That is loyalty.
Now, why didn't anyone in this room not tell Royce that straw ain't a microphone?
Tony Yayo and Royce are IMO some of the most loyal friends one could ever have!
Font forget Memphis Bleek as well
When he said joe said he love meand i rolled with him? am like huh?
The dude saying "money, moneeeey,..." did he listen to the other side at all? They've said this has been going on for a long time. Years. The fans want answers. They gave answers.
I ride with Math’s explanation. I think it’s rooted in jealousy. If it was a money thing they could have A.) Asked the group for help or B.) Planned WITH the group to do a fake beef for sales then reunite with a surprise album. For men in their position, there are countless options to get money without choosing betrayal…unless you are envious/jealous.
Finally someone making sense of things... how you got the brand of Slaughterhouse and not making $$ off of a name yall built together. Still could of made Slaughter house music with just two people and had royce do a song. Bunch of singles no album snd still made great $$
Well maybe the fake beef has not ended yet? 😅
It's not even jealousy. The problem was always Joe's ego. Joe enjoys being the one in control and he likes to toy with and diminish others so he can feel above them. He's incredibly manipulative. There's countless examples we can point to on this pattern of behaviour with him, but very tellingly was anytime Joe and crook have had to interact on a camera....Joe tries his usual tactics and crook is stone faced and legit not falling for one single bit of it. I've seen interviews with those two be awkward as fuck. It's palpable that crook does not like when Joe tries it with the bullshit.
Joe could not manipulate crook, and he could not demean him. Crook wouldn't fucking let him. The whole issue was Joe saying he wasn't rapping anymore, which IS what he said, and not just publicly. He said that to crook, and otherwise dodged crooks calls.
Joe wanted to be the one in control, the top dog, the powerful one....the one the others were DEPENDANT on. And he didn't give a fuck how that impacted anyone else.
Crook simply said "no" to Joe's ways and refused to BE a dependant.
Crooked doesn't have a reason to be jealous of Joe & Royce nor be desperate for money. He's the CEO of his own record label (C.O.B Digital) and Vice President of another label (Treacherous Records). He even has his own talk show you can watch on UA-cam (Crook's Corner). He also did an interview for Eminem on it 2 years ago plus he had a feature on Em's last album. Crooked loves Slaughterhouse, he just wanted the group to reunite for one last time and give the fans closer... nothing more nothing less.
“When niggas need money, they do not make the right decision!” 💯
Ya'all talking like Crook & Joell are some broke nobody's. This is insane.
look at strong ass R kelly in the jean jacket vest lmao
For them to say Crook and Joell did what they did for marketing and money is clownish, why trying to insult them like that. They spoke their side and their feelings about it. They were in it. Wtf
Royce is a lot of talk nowadays
You guys missed a lot of key questions and seemed to just roll with Royce’s version of things without much push back or interrogation. Some questions you should have asked: did you or Joe try to get any other deals? Did you or Joe make any moves to monetize Slaughter House in any of the ways you listed (merch, NFT, etc)? If the answer to those questions is no, then you could have proposed that perhaps that’s where the move from Crook and Joel stemmed from. They could have seen it as you guys not being as passionate or serious about the group. Add to that some questions about the communication failings from Royce’s side (like did he think there were any failings at all from his side) and it would have been more interesting or fruitful. As it is, this is just coming across as a bit too soft ball or d**k riding line of discussion. Also would make it super cringe if crook or Joel ever took the chair and you guys then didn’t ask them “did you do it because you needed the money, because that’s what it looked like to us” since that appears to be your collective stance
They are so leaving out the fact that it was 10 years 9 on shady 1 off and nothing happened they were done after that or the fact that joe said he doesnt honor contracts so even if he was receptive to any deal they brought how can they trust he wont do the same thing again and since joe aint trust worthy and royce wont move without joe that leaves slaughter house defunct
They didn't allow enough time to even get another deal. That's royce entire issue. Crook was dead set on that deal. And merch won't do any good because the group wasn't active....you have to come back outside so ppl can see again in order to sell them something. They had just got out of the shady deal for a year.....that's nothing in the music industry. It take most artists that long to make an album!!! I'd bet there's more to the story, but the more it plays out, it looks like the guys just needed the quick lick....
@@nurangetv how much time is needed? They spent a year getting off shady and they had been off Shady for a year when this shit happened, so that’s 2 years to workshop deals. Not “get a deal”, just workshop deals. Crook didn’t have a deal. He had a proposal from someone who might give them a deal. And he had that Bc he was workshopping the group when seemingly nobody else was. If Crook had time, everybody else had time.
@@nurangetv you’re speculating there. My entire point was that it would have been a better interview if they asked him point blank what moves or attempts he and Joe made during the year window they were off Shady. If the answer is that they tried x, y and z but weren’t allowed to see how those panned out because the other two rushed the situation, then they have a valid point framing it as a foul move or that they needed the money and so on. However, if Royce were to say that they didn’t actually make any moves during the year off shady then it plays to Crook and Joel’s narrative that Royce and Joe weren’t serious and were just dragging things out.
YO MATH you gotta bring Crook and Joell too. Gotta hear all the sides.
He said he rides with Joe that he has strained relationships because of Joe , Marshall and others might have no said much but Joel and crooked see that as he only does what Joe wants
Facts
This is the most confusing - I don't even know what to call it.
Like they all been there and know where it can and could go from jump. Yet they all acting like they were surprised at Joe, shocked at crooked and Joel, and flabbergasted at Royce.
Like none of them knew nothing bout each other or had a history out there.
What has happened is an outcome that was very possible that anybody that knew was aware, could happen.
And a good percent scenario just played out that way.
He still holding on to the L Lupe gave him tho
He destroyed Lupe with Silence of Lambda, its just too complex for yall to break down lol
This guy is mature and very smart, respect.
It's too much speculation for something both Crook and Joell have already told yall their reasoning behind it. Imagine you were apart of a group for a second and at every single show, every day somebody is asking you about the group and what's the hold up and you know you've done everything you can to give the fans what they're asking for and at this point you don't have an answer? Eventually you get tired of saying the same shit over and over again so you have 2 choices, either let the world know it's not happening like they did or you keep holding out blind faith for the slimmest possibility of it happening and continuing making empty promises
Exactly
Real Talk
the hand/straw covering mouth is killing me bruv lol
That straw is distracting bro put it down smh, otherwise good conversations.
Royce is a different type of dude and I really appreciate that.
Why has he been holding that straw to his mouth for 2 hours like its a 🎤
eyo math hoffa, anything i can do to help you out fam, just lemme kno
Love Royce! This was a great interview he’s so solid.
4:20
Yo somebody mic 🎤 up da Playa on da sidelines... 😂😭
I dont think they did it for money…of course everyone wants to be paid for their talents but I think they wanted to rap and explain their story that the fans wanted to hear…simple…
Math show so good a Ni66A finna miss work trying to watch the whole episodes 😂💯
royce is a good lyricist but he would struggle without eminem putting him on songs
you wrong my guy Royce has his own lane
@@MichaelLee-pl4sh We know Royce has his own lane, I think Chris means Royce would struggle being known in the public eye without his affiliation with EM
He's already an underrated emcee, but would Royce be known without the EM connection or would he be more under the radar/ under appreciated section like Black Thought, Elzhi, and Immortal Technique type guys.
Who knows
Royce isn't as good as he thinks he is lol
@@beth1188 you wild for that take
@antione english he's good, like a thousand other guys. He's not as special as he thinks he is.
Bro bro out here chewing on strolls...got me reminiscing 😂
"Make a while album about me & Joe" ... They needed money ?! This whole interview suspect n biased
When the shit hits the fan, dude gonna leave you behind.
This is BOGUS! They aint need bread. Where are the "other opportunities" Royce?? After a DIME 🤷♂️
is there an extended cut with royce chewing on more straws?
Maybe they were just being realistic on Joe being retired.
I just peep the dude in the back talking is still with Royce and that’s dope. I forget his name but I only remember him from the Beef 2 DVD lol
Maybe is not about money maybe it's just them wanted to rap and since it's taking forever to put the group back together they're like forget it then let's close this chapter in our lives
Need to bring AZ up there math since you had nature up there
Royce and Joe need to stop it. Crook said it was about closure for the fans. If you watching this you no. Royce acting like crook and Joel made no Vaseline towards them
That’s stupid on there part if they thought that way . It’s a valuable asset they have ownership in and can monetize for that rest of there lives . Why would you end something that can feed your family for decades.
One of the best guys on this SHOW