Helldivers 2 is a wake up call
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Helldivers 1 all time concurrent player count: 6,744 players
Helldivers 2: 411,000 on steam with likely another 100-200k on PlayStation
It's not lack of foresight, its a small studio of 100 people blindsided by overnight success and scrambling to fix the game.
As the CEO said, get a refund or wait to buy it when the game can accommodate more players. Otherwise, go play twister or something.
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I have two further issues with the game
Only 2 enemy factions Robots/Xenomorphs. All fights look the same from what i have seen and seems boring "visually"
Secondly it has kernel level access via its anticheat which seems overkill for a game that is not even an esport title
I think because of these now the game has "mostly negative" on steam (along with the server capacity issue)
@@goochipoochie affirmative soldier, the time they see you the time they go after you..
@goochipoochie you mean the Tyranids and Necrons?
They would have more than 400k players if their servers could handle it
@@goochipoochieseems like the two factions are just for the initial release, if they can stabilize their game and maintain a good player base, then more enemy factions should be introduced. Basically, I agree with you, but I’m hopeful for more enemies in the future (as well as a working title, AND I WANT MY 1000 super credits I purchased!).
Baldurs Gate 3, Palworld, and Helldivers 2 taking the AAA industry out behind the woodshed.
Honestly 2024 for gaming has been incredible. I love seeing independent developers kill it verses big gaming.
The term AAA is the game development equivalent of the emperor's clothes
Bg3 is a triple A game. The reality is more that a few big studios are giving triple A games a bad rep. God of war, horizon Zelda rdr2 bg3 cyberpunk Mario wonder all triple A games worthy of the title its the ubisoft and blizzard type games that mislead ppl to think triple A is bad/dead
Don’t get too excited, Helldivers still needs to fix their servers. I got friends who haven’t even got to play it yet..
how are Helldivers 2 and Baldurs Gate 3 not AAA games ???
It’s incredible to see so many AA, indie, and small development teams getting rewarded for just clearly making better games than billion-dollar companies.
Bloat. Big game studios are way too big. There are too many developers, the leads aren't communicating, no one knows what the game is meant to be at its core. If it's not a PS AAA, I'm not buying it anymore.
Its because they have passion for games like the big publishers had back in the days. Its not about generating as much money as possible .
@@Dennisvandijk1990 games like these are creating a new standard, a standard of old. When games were made for the art of making them, by passionate people who wanted to play what they made and share that with the world. The golden age is coming back, slowly.
@@Dennisvandijk1990 The thing is, the best way to generate money is to make a good game. Like palworld, helldivers and baldur's gate 3 have showed in the past year.
Make a good game, and we WILL buy it. Because that's all we care about
My favorite and the most ironic part about it is all those games profit margins are way higher thanks to their high sales and lower budget than the big studios continuous flops. Obviously we don't know what the sales after a year will look like for skull and bones and suicide squad but it looks very likely they will be a fraction of where they want it to be. Kind of seem like major disaster projects but time will unfold that.
And Ubisoft had the audacity to call Skull & Bones a quadruple A game 💀💀.
More like a AAA mobile game 🤣
@@vinokai Don't insult mobile games
@@egoraptorschin9412 shit you right….
Traaaash
Quadruple budget 😅😂
Okay, I love how the CEO actually called out how him bugging the engineers wouldn't help. Good on him for recognizing his limitations.
"Limitations " lol what a socialist
@@illuminated_crown That doesn't even make sense
I’m 55 years old, playing with my two sons while standing on a ledge fighting automotams with a machine gun screaming “die clankers die” took me back 20 years.😂😂😂😂 Awesome game!
As someone who played original Republic Commando and Battlefront and its sequel which all are around 20 year old games now i know how you feel 😂
I will always thank The Clone Wars animations for giving us a great robot slur to use.
Love this! 👏👏👏
I'm 52 and kinda right where you are. Neither me or my son are usually into these kinds of games; probably because they're usually PvP and toxic as hell, but we've been completely blindsided by HD2. He saw me playing and now we aren't playing anything else right now unless we can't get in because of server size issues.
40 here I know what you mean. Helldivers 1 was also fun af
Helldivers is scratching a very specific but very wide niche. "Me 'n the boys nuking aliens with semi-tactical shooting mechanics"
"If it bleeds, we *will* kill it" type of niche >:D
the "i'm doing my part!" type of niche
fighting insurmountable odds to save millions with the boys will always hit different
It reminds me of the best moments of halo 3
@@scottmasih9175reminds me of playing Killing Floor 2 with friends.
For the first time after so many years I actually feel the same joy I did when I was a kid waiting for game releases and to come back home and just play with my friends for hours.
Games like BG3, Palworld, Helldivers 2 showed us what a lot of companies had forgotten.
That the point of games is to have fun.
It’s legit just pure fun
Turns out when games exist to extract money and keep you right on the edge of ripping out your card to pay for something they aren't fun. When they try to be fun they're fun.
Back then, games used to be passion projects. Call of duty was made by developers who wanted a battlefield game. Now the games are controlled by big companies who can only see the money because they know they have a stupid enough fanbase that they’ll all buy the next game no matter how much it sucks
It's just like Reggie fils amie said. If a games not fun why bother
What you can actually play with friends ??
My first drop in Helldivers was exactly what I wanted and expected. Right in the midst of a SWARM of bugs, and I spent every grenade, stim, and emptied both my guns (no time to reload) and ended up dropping an orbital on myself which I BARELY got away from, limping towards friendlies who dropped supplies and then the NEXT wave came at us.
I screamed IRL, and knew this was gonna be a beautiful game.
It's a boring empty procedurally generated walking sim, shillbot.
@@FuzzyWalrus123 lol, lmao, game journalist level of comprehension
@@FuzzyWalrus123 are you a bot? cuz your reply makes absolutely no sense
@@HidingOverHereI don’t
Think he’s a bot just a generic cod bro.
@@accidentalmadness1708 its such a generic response that has nothing to do with the game.
Helldivers releasing off the back of a monster like Palworld and STILL having the success it has just reinforces the point that many were still calling into question: “Make good game, we will support”
Honestly, what sends the message even more is to stop buying shit from AAA studios. Even if it’s on discount. Any dime going towards those black holes of creativity and innovation is too much.
That "monster" was developed by 10 guys and had like a 10k budget. These are both a massive fuck you to bland lifeless gaming market. Profit of 164 million at the time of writing, btw. Palworld is doing better than full games while still not fully developed.
My friends and I have been saying it for a while there hasn't been a lot of good big name games in a while. Skull and Bones is a worse black flags. Ark getting remastered instead of a new game. Overwatch 2 being a greedy and worse version of Overwatch 1. Battlefield and COD are pretty same and boring. Rocket League hasn't seen any real love and feels abandoned.
@@arcurtis11 was saying Monster to quantify its success not to like diss it in some way
the 10k budget was when the studios was starting out they spent 7 million on pal world@@arcurtis11
I love how all the best weapons aren’t even on the premium war bonds.
Me too, they're not bad weapons but I feel like they are situational with the splash damage on the explosive ones and that makes them really good sometimes but definitely not op.
and the premium shop is kinda lackluster TBH
i like it its fine for the price @@kizunadragon9
Warbond has 2 great weapons tho. Besides, you can spend the free premium currency earned unlocking premium....for free. Thats the real win.
And who knows, this may change, but it's good to know that the majority of weapons that are good now are not a part of the premium warbond with those being more side grades or situational. Hoping it stays that way, but I imagine we'll have a weapon here or there in a prem warbond that's just as good.
I got into Helldivers 2 the same way I got into deep rock galactic: Extremely fun coop game, with great community. Helldivers was a great base for this follow up, and the dev delivered something fresh with a setting we saw thousand of times, because it does it better than the others. Bathing in the blood of exploding bugs, crawling under the fire of an entire robot army, each game handles differently with each team. A great game that suffers from unstable servers
Rock and stone brother!
Btw the game was built on an engine called Stinray, that was officially abandoned by its developers back in 2018. Sure, they've taken it upon themselves to modify it as necessary, but still, it's been abandoned for 6 years and yet they still managed to make a game that beats most modern games and engines in raw gameplay and visuals. I'm really glad I can play Helldivers 1 in a 3rd person setting with modern graphics.
Just goes to show that one doesn’t necessarily need Unity or Unreal if you’ve got good talent working for you.
many companies do it cause its cheaper
CEO being sassy is everything i needed.
I’m sure at CEO college he learned how to fix the servers specifically for helldivers 2
It shows he cares for his employees and doesn’t micromanage.
Don’t forget about Enshrouded, it’s also AA and has managed to get 2 million players
@@Codester-Codythe problem here is that helldivers is serversided. As in Enshrouded u make a world that is hosted on you computer and if all 2 million players where to play all in the same server. Hmmm thats would be a problem. But they arent. Not even 5 people play enshrouded on the same world
@@HER0_ I'm sure at being patient college they learn how to be patient as well
The Helldivers CEO having the same energy as the Wendy's twitter account is hilarious, and I'm all for it.
Was it really Wendy's or was it that comedian Ben Palmer who makes accounts pretending to be businesses and reporters and stuff?
Helldivers 2 gives me a similar feeling to when Black Ops COD zombies first came out. The emphasis on playing with friends, along with fun and intricate mechanics that are easy to learn is a potent combination.
Man, I can't remember last time I played such an engaging and fun game.
I love getting all pumped up to the epic and bombastic main theme during the drop cut-scene.
I love the way my character screams "HAVE SOME DEMOCRACY!" when emptying an entire magazine into a swarm of enemies.
I love how a chaotic, almost lost mission can turn into a Glorious Success after calling in reinforcements for your three fallen teammates.
I love this game!
I like how this game almost came out of nowhere and literally buried Suicide Squad and Skull & Bones. Well played, Arrowhead. These AAA companies have long been overdue for a good kick in the nads.
Unfortunately Skull bones was never gonna be hit but ubi had choice but finally release it
Wow, make a good game, get rewarded. What a novel concept. I’m surprised it took this long.
Yes, but what is "a good game"? This intuition and feel for what is appealing to gamers has been long lost since the EA's and Ubisofts of this world have been buying up smaller developers. Good to see this shift.
Thank you!
Capitalism has a way of sucking the soul out of everything it touches.
Yeah but it didn't focus on gender and racial equity issues. So AAA devs will be confused
It's subjective to each player@@ES-os7ko
Every small indie game blowing up is a "wake-up call" since minecraft.
Yeah but this one is different
Minecraft sold out and became a censorship loving AAA game. While it is still an amazing game, it is being destroyed by an oversaturated consumerist push by Microsoft, taking away from the time to focus on developing the main game to push out absolute dogshit slop like Minecraft Legends (a soulless, corporate game that nobody asked for). The massive difference here is that the publisher has a dedicated vision for the community and refuses to oversaturate the game with mainstream features like PvP (which usually cater to competitive leaning developers that are only in it for the money and nothing else).
And honestly? As a hardcore PvP fan, I completely respect the publisher's choice with this decision. Sometimes PvP does not bring anything, and sometimes it in fact, brings a net negative.
In my experience, PvP games, while they are often incredible, get the most toxic not because of harmless smack talk on the mic, that's a part of many games, no that's fine. The issue I have with PvP is that people will abuse the votekick system and blatantly break the rules to unrightfully ban people who aren't obeying the "meta" of the game. Essentially what the "meta" means is that certain multiplayer game community get so terminally online, that they form an underworld council, a hierarchy of neckbeard losers who think that they run the entire server and demand that everyone play the game exactly as THEY want and demand like crybabies that everyone use the ""proper"" weapons and armour and anyone who doesn't, any innocent player who doesn't obey the fat greasy meta cultists, will get falsely votebanned for doing absolutely nothing wrong and simply playing the game how it best suits them.
For present and future PvP developers, my message is this; We need to crack down on votekick abusers and we need better systems to deal with them. Because it has been a cancerous plague against gaming for far too long. Sometimes, meta-"people" interfere with the multiplayer environment so badly that games in the most severe cases, can even become completely unplayable. I think that multiplayer can still work for games focused on other areas, with the problem being that it requires work and maintenance to properly operate.
I think it's also important to note that in terms of multiplayer, there's certain types of gatekeeping that make PvP better or worse:
Meta elitists are not real gatekeepers; They're schizo control freaks who want ownership of everyone's actions and want to put every player in a headlock and weaponize fear to take away the freedoms from all players in games that are all about freedom, choice and exploration. They kill the fun and they manipulate everyone around them. Meta players, whether they are PvP or PvE, are false gatekeepers and do not serve the interests or the well being of multiplayer games. Anyone who values freedom and actual enjoyment of the games they purchased with their hard earned money should do their part to gatekeep against meta-cultists and actively advocate against them. In a matter of speaking; It's not just about a small developer becoming big, it's about staying true to your principles on that journey that make a massive difference between Minecraft and Helldivers 2.
Damn
Minecraft came out back when we still reliably got decent AAA releases.
Man, would be dope if there was a mission where you find a star gate and it dumps you into a two squad game objective.
The music in Helldivers 2 already a classic. Such is the Sound of Freedom
Indeed, is one of the few games where I find myself humming the music
Managing democracy requires the utmost auditory care.
Good movie by that title too
@@Gandwarf213 was hoping someone would get the ref hence the capitalization 😀
The theme song is called "Cup Of Liber-Tea". UA-cam it and enjoy 😊
What a treat for gaming this last year has been, between Elden ring, ac6, bg3, palworld, helldivers 3 and coming up on FF7R… it’s been a rough couple of years since the 2010’s but maybe we’re coming out of a dark age and into a new dawn…
You had me until FF7R. I am beyond tired of nostalgia-fueled remakes.
I remember when this was first announced, I was the only one in my friend group that freaked out with joy. They all thought this game was just another live service pve shooter…as a veteran of Helldivers 1 I knew exactly what was coming and I’m so glad everyone else is discovering just how amazing this game truly is
Saw this on the state of play, never played the first so I was like “huh, cool.” Skipped past it (because I was watching an upload of the state of play) and figured it might be fun for a bit. It was not fun…
For a bit :)
FREEDOM DOESN'T SLEEP
Finally I get to be inside one of my favorite movies. Helldivers absolutely rules.
This game is weak. It's only cool if you play with people. Half the time I kept on getting killed because someone didn't know how to aim. Game is a complete shit show with softcover players in my opinion.
@@kennypowerz1267The game is definitely geared heavily towards coop with friends, so if you don’t have friends or cant make them, then youre playing a different game entirely
@@kennypowerz1267 I've played multiple missions solo and it's still just as fun. Nothing weak about it.
dunno about you @kennypowerz1267 but i'm having a blast even solo. sounds like a skill issue.
@@kennypowerz1267 sounds like you just suck, get better and you'll enjoy it more
It was a small indie studio that created a billion dollar juggernaunt known as minecraft. Large studio can only try to replicate
you're not wrong, all of the greatest games to ever exist were made by small unknown studios... who where then bought, forced to pump out sequels, expand 100 fold until they are unrecognizable monstrosities filled with unqualified personnel squeezing out live service garbage.
@@shazmodeus2795well not all… there are a lot of masterpieces that have emerged from the AAA market as well🤔
"Evil cannot create, it can only destroy."
Helldivers 2 is live service aswell... Its the problem about monetizing but the lack of passion when making the game@@shazmodeus2795
Helldivers 2 has managed the remarkable feat of becoming the #1 game on my mind this past week. Mentally replaying combats, strategies, my abilities and trying to figure out how I can become better. The music sweeps you off your feet, draws you into the dance of quick reloads, artillery, and frantic combat.
I don’t expect to like this so much, though the trailer promised it wouldn’t be nothing. My #2 and #3 games are Factorio and EU4 presently, and unfortunately it’s an EU4 night (and I must sleep). This is such a welcome diversion, I hardly realized it. Once past the obvious failures, it’s just friggen fantastic!
Seriously. I think the best part is the amount of actual strategy in this game. Like, my friends and I will set up flanks on bots and funnel them into a killzone, or do assisted reloads on the recoilless rifle and shoot down incoming drop ships, stuff like that. I don't think i've seen any other game manage something like that
@@Tommymad1 recoilless riflers unite!
“Hell divers exploded onto the scene with an explosive launch” - Chat GPT at its finest
You didn’t even mention how beautiful the game is. It’s dynamic, gritty, visually stunning. Well done Arrowhead.
Yeah I was especially impressed by the desert planets. I love the sand dunes and the way sand is constantly billowing around you, only for an occasional break to see the desert standing still in the bright moonlight. No wind, no bugs, no explosions, just a sandy silence
Also I love how lower graphics settings don't look like dogshit. Most triple A games are not that well optimized, and when you have a medium gaming PC and turn the graphics down it is legit not even playable anymore because it looks so awful. I had a guy in the lobby that didn't even notice he had medium settings even though he had a high end PC.
Was in a match that set off an ICBM... hubbys like 'is that a nuke?' Me just 'mmhmm' and tried to focus, but then hes like 'whered it go off?' And i stopped... looked around and yea... you can SEE IT blown off in the distance. And its surprisingly pretty. It was nice to spend the 2.1 secs suggested by the Freedom Democracy Authority to look at my surroundings.
It is quite pretty.
ID trade a ton of the visuals for way more scale. The hordes are so small and the vehicles/artillery unimpressive compared to EDF type shit i'm spoiled. Like its a tighter and better game overall its just less interesting.
@@keithsimpson2685 play on a difficulty higher than 6
What the last 3-4 years proved is that the sweet spot for a studio size is between 100-400 employees, where passion is still in their blood but are big enough to invest a good amount in the development. I will be looking out for those.
id agree with that. sonta monica studios and naughty dog have about 400 employees each and they produce some of the highest quality games ive ever seen. not just in gameplay and story but also graphics, systems and coding.
@michaelmercado3759 yeah it makes sense some of the layoffs are happening because blizzard and activion played off 1000s because it's no much people for a coherent vision I hope they make there own studios amd make great games too
Way to large already. Financing has nothing to do with studio size.
One of my favorite things about Helldivers 2's cosmetics is that they aren't all just purely cosmetic. Specifically, the different armor you can get actually has an effect on gameplay with each outfit having different stats. It gives a little more reason to not just unlock the armor you think looks coolest and wear only that for the entire game
The atmosphere is one of my favorite in the game. Just looking to the horizon and seeing ships shooting the surface. Makes you feel like players are over there fighting.
I read somewhere it's real time call downs from players on that side of the planet
I’ve seen a lot of people say it feels like couch co-op again, and I think that’s pretty close
I wish it was couch co-op. If it was then I would double this game’s score. At least the first game has couch co-op so if I’m at my friend’s we can play that.
i never thought how openworld + extraction element would blend well for a co-op hrode shooter, it offers unique gameplay experience on top of gameplay variety (players loadout) and AI director for its gameplay loop.
Helldivers 2 is 2024 Deep Rock Galactic. And I'm all for it, we need more games like those.
Edit (clarification): The themes between it and Helldivers are widely different but the core-gameplay is the same where 80% of the player base are chill and are all about the comradery.
We need more games like that.
now we need Deep Rock Galactic 2 to be the glow up that Helldivers 2 was !
I haven't played it (yet) but watching videos make it look pretty uninteresting. Is this more of a case of having to play to appreciate it? Or if I think the gameplay looks bland from videos I may as well write it off? It honestly looks like the PVE aspect of fortnite, minus building but then even slower.
And while I never played DRG the gameplay always looked interesting in comparison to this.
I must be the only one that doesn't get it, I'll have to pick it up when the servers are good.
@@joel6376 Helldivers 2 is not a game for everyone. Its entirely possibly you wont like it or think its bland, simple, boring etc and thats ok. I recommend giving it a try, but the gameplay is exactly what you see in the videos. Its dudes running around shooting bugs and robots with cool weapons. Thats it, and I personally love it. So if that doesnt sound interesting you will probably not enjoy it.
i have probably more than 400 hours on DRG, unlocked everything. Helldivers 2 does not even came close to it sadly, Why? because i love having a big ass minigun to slay ton of bugs on haz5 or elite deep dives, on the other hand i just dont like that you are this "badass helldiver" and what gun do you get to fight giant bugs? small AR rifle, smg or sniper rifle..., like really? And The fully FPS DRG just feels better for me than the first person view in helldivers 2. I get it, it needed to be 3rd person view so more people buy comestics and can see them but the first person view seems so wonky. Its not a bad game at all but i bought it because people have said this and its just not it and then the server issues hit, refunded as fast as i could. Maybe i will buy it in a year or two when its on discount and/or has more interesting weapons to look forward to and is much more polished game.
@@txsnowman Thanks mate, I have asked this a number of times and noone has yet said that the gameplay you see on here will mostly resemble the experience. Because of your to the point reply I will get it and give it a chance at some point :D
Elden Ring, Dead Space Remake, Baldur's Gate 3, Helldivers 2, Lethal Company, and Lies of P to name a few games that were actually very good in recent times. It's almost like taking your time, listening to fan feedback, and having good directors/writers/teams brings us these types of games.
One thing to definitely look forward to is what is to come. Baldurs Gate 3 could have easily been an example of capturing lightning in a bottle but with Palworld and now Helldivers 2 having the success they have had along with the overwhelmingly positive response from players that they have had... they SHOULD start serving as a blueprint or formula on what "to do" for other smaller companies. I dont expect any change from the AAA devs any time soon, but if change is going to happen then it is going to happen at the ground level with smaller companies that are able to knock it out of the ballpark and if these 3 games serve as the springboard that starts all of that then eventually the AAA studios will have to change their tactics or honestly risk becoming the "small" company.
Now this is a real fucking game.
It's simple yet has fun mechanics like the knockback effects of your character actually being flung through the air from an explosion and etc.
Landing on monsters with your crash pod, sticking beacons for supply drops on monsters to insta kill them.
It's these details and design choices that make a game really have passion put into it, not even to mention plenty of other stuff in the game to play with, the environment, how everything plays out, how enemies attack you differently and more.
These people are actually paying their designers and programmers actual ideas to make.
And i'm not gonna ignore the fantastic opening trailer they have for the game.
Also how team work is emphasized. Several of the heavier weapons like the Spear and Recoiless rifle encourage having a team mate carry the ammo pack to reload it for you (much faster vs reloading it solo). Also back blast is a thing. Sent someone sprawling after they ran directly behind me as I fired off a disposable AT at a dropship
Honestly, it's the details they put effort into they didn't 'need' to do which has me smiling at them. The animations for being hit by blasts from the automatons that stagger you are really impressive and you can't conciously appreciate it when playing. I had to see footage of others playing to realize just how good the animations and transitions between them are. Seeing a diver stumble to the right because a round just deflected off their helmet from the left in such a naturalistic manner is goddamn art.
Just purchased this and I’m fricken stoked. Warhammer 40k and Halo needs to take note!
What do you mean Warhammer? A few of their games are an exception to the rule when it comes to being bad like darktide, but I wouldn't even say darktide is anywhere near the scale of how bad some games like modern warfare 3 (2023) are. Vermintide, daemonhunters, deathwing (after re-release), battlesector, space marine 1; all successful titles. And with space marine 2 coming out soon, if it turns out to be good, will really propel 40k into the mainstream gaming market. Rogue trader was also incredibly successful and the reviews gave me flashbacks to how Baldurs Gate 3 was praised.
@@rasplez9889 it's also worth noting that Darktide is in a really good place now. It needed some more time to cook, but now it's a genuinly fun PvE Warhammer experience.
@@rasplez9889most 40K games are awful turn based garbage. Every now and then a good game like Space Marine or Darktide comes out
@@devdoes I'm guessing you don't play many Warhammer games then.
BG3 was also turn-based and embarrassed the entire AAA industry.
yea if you"re easily impressed bg3 HAD LIKE 10 YEARS and was early access. Most games don't get that kind of leeway. Also there's nothing impressive about a turn based game. I'm sorry, there's no way a game like BG3 is embarrassing anything unless you only play games from big companies. So if thats your only frame of reference then of course BG3 will look better than it actually is.@@rasplez9889
On HD1, the main boss for the Terminine is the Worm. He come out of nowhere like Dune Sandworm. Whoever is underneath is instant death. He usually attack the gamer that deal the most damage. Not only that, when he come up, he sprays his acid attack and those are caught by his acid are dead. Once that is over, he sneak back to the ground level and wait to pop up to attack one of the player again. It's repeat over and over. He is also the toughest boss in HD1.
Respect. First time seeing any of your videos, subscribing soon as I’m done writing this. I like the way you speak about the content in this video, and I’m looking forward to seeing what else you provide.
It's funny how in the game your character is treated like an expendable asset to be used. But the player is respected and their time is not wasted or money taken advantage of. The exact opposite of what normally happens lol.
That intro theme song.. chills everytime!
reminds me of The Avengers tbh lol i love it
I feel the Destroyer just plays the music loudly with a huge speaker as HellDivers going in for actions.
Gets me in the mood for a cup of liber-tea
@@Temmoie The sound of freedom
It's so fucking good^^
The soundtrack of Helldivers 2 is so great, it really captures that heroic and borderline fanatical patriotism :D
I hope they keep the ball rolling and the success keeps coming, they have the foundation for an even bigger Destiny (the game), millions of players who would love to come back for expanded story and new gear.
It also has that special feeling of a great crowd game, which would really fit well during a PAX presentation or the like.
Helldiver2 is the game we need( a renaissance for modern gaming) , it is a game that didn’t have glitch’s at start and was polished. It was a game where it I did cost a lot, 40 bucks felt like a great deal, the super citizen was 60$ which is still cheaper then most new game.
In other news I haven't seen in too many places, City of Heroes (an old MMORPG that got sunset back in 2012) actually has an official server again, as of January this year. The Homecoming servers actually got a license to run the game from NCSoft, the current holders of the IP.
Getting ultra rare samples turns the game into a glorified escort mission but in a completely natural way and its just one example of how well designed the game is
Game does not explain what those things are.
@@RP-dy5mu You can upgrade stuff with samples (in the lobby, not during the match I believe). Grab them whenever you can.
@@RP-dy5muYou can see it in the costs for items. Games don't need to hold your hand or have explicit pop-ups for everything.
@@aidanengel Nope I still don't have a clue about it. Which items?
@@RP-dy5mu Literally the ship upgrades. check the ship modules, all samples are used to buy upgrades from there. This was explained the first time you access ship management.
I think the Automatons have people freaked out how they push forward so quickly haha I wouldn’t mind getting the Xbox guys into the fight.
We need to put our differences aside for the sake of democracy
The automatons add another level of pressure and I love it. The bugs are fun, but the bots are actually a challenge.
@@HER0_it's never going to happen
@@petermaupin2068Someone take this unbeliever to the rehabilitation center so he/she can experience true Democracy.
@@petermaupin2068your comment has been forwarded to your local Democracy Officer for spreading undemocratic and anti-liberty ideals.
This has got to be some of the best times for gaming. Within a year there has been Buldurs gate, Lethal Company, The Finals, Buckshot Roulette, Palworld, Helldivers 2, just so much stuff to play. It has been so long since I’ve had a time where I didn’t go “I have no idea what to play” constantly
Incredibly well-spoken, well-articulated, and a fantastic watch and spotlight on the things that need to be celebrated about this game. Huge kudos/thanks for making this video, it's such an important moment in the industry to pay attention to. Also, hell yeah Spiritbox
The disconnect between CEOs and gamers is crazy. That Helldivers 2 guy though… I like that 😂 It’s so refreshing to see at least some CEOs are competent. I might check this game out eventually! I’ll wait for servers to stabilize. So many huge JRPGs I am interested in checking out.
It's fantastic, but i totally get waiting, i'd guess it'd be stable in 2-3 weeks. They've already doubled server capacity and are looking to implement a kick for if people leave the game on all night without doing anything, which should free up space. And I think today's patch fixed matchmaking on pc!
I logged on with no problems up until 8pm on the East Coast. Then it happened.
there was a tweet stating something like "Ya'll need to stop making content on this game. It looks awesome and I'm going to have to buy it, though I'm broke." the CEO responded and said wait until the servers are fixed. He stated as CEO he of course wants his game to be successful, but if this individual put himself in a tight spot and not be able to play, the CEO would be heartbroken. Seems like a very stand up guy.
It's been pretty stable the past few days. But the player count also dropped a little, there was a lot of raging and refunding in the steam threads.
@@Kipp274 I had issues with inviting and joining my bros squads tonight.
CEO standing on business 🔥
Literally
One of my memories that always comes to me when thinking back isn't of playing these games with friends and family. I have plenty of those, but this ones stands out for me.
It was back when MAG (Massive Action Game, RIP) came out on the PS3. The squad I was in was all randos. No one knew each others. By the end of the match, we had sent friend requests and spent the next couple of weeks tearing that community apart for Raven.
Good times.
For me it's just the soundtrack, it's honestly absolutely amazing and fits the theme so well! I haven't even played I've just seen some videos of people, but The music and voice lines just come across so awesome!
That's a spicy CEO.
Baldurs gate had the wholesome one, palworld had the passionate newbie. Now we got the spicy one 😅
The best fucking game ever, 2024 has started off so fuckin strong with Palworld being a game genre i've wanted forever and this masterpiece giving us a full game that we've desperatley needed without knowing. Just creating a fun project where everyones games are linked, it's amazing
It can’t be the best game when the servers are complete trash.
@@KB-ql8cx everytime I wanted to get in it retries twice and I get in. Patience is key and just get better lmao
@@KB-ql8cx The server aren't trash, it's bloated with players so much that you have to wait in a line to play it, plus, they're doing what they can to increase and improve server capacity.
That's just how a successful restaurant in real life would be, as some are so popular and good that one even has to book the spot days prior.
@@KB-ql8cxa game that’s suffering from success can’t be the best?
@@KB-ql8cx The servers aren't trash, they're at capacity. When you're in, you stay in unless your connection is bad. If they were bad, you'd be getting kicked constantly.
All I want to say is that never have I before been amazed by a loading screen! For the first few hours of Helldivers it didn’t even registar that the hellpod launch was a loading screen.
This was a stark contrast to Skull & Bones where they put a loading screen on everything fathomable. Craft a gun? Loading screen. Progress storyline with a cinematic? Loading screen. Go onto a tiny island? Loading screen. Want to fast travel? 3 loading screens.
Love HD2 - soundtrack is amazing, the tongue in cheek ‘democracy’is brilliant
ngl this might be the first year that i actually vote on game of the year. this game deserves all the fame it has bro
To think, Arrowhead thought they'd sell 20k copies on the game and ended up selling over a million... would be interesting to see the number of players who put extra $$ into the game since the game is great and the cost is so low. I think this game has boosted ArrowHead up to Developer level they were not ready for, but that they will set trends in the industry for a while to come
Yep they absolutely over-delivered on the 'little' shooter game they dreamed of making. And they hit a perfect storm of landing after recent AAA failures, scams or assorted frustrating releases. Being on PC as well as PS5 was key to get as many content creators posting footage that helped the game self itself really.
Of course they didn't expect to sell 20k, but much more. This game was in the making for 8 years. 20k sold would not even cover salaries of 2 developers.
@@4lpina maybe no 20k but they clearly didn't expect this huge success
Already put in 20bucks
i never thought how openworld + extraction element would blend well, thank you HD2 for showing me, how come i never thought of that blew my mind since it offers unique gameplay experience on top of gameplay variety (players loadout) and AI director for its gameplay loop. maybe since co-op horde shooters were often linear and rarely were released by indie or aa.
4:45 "You're gonna have to talk about... what kind of stratagems you're going to bring"
eagle cluster bomb
Railgun and orbital laser or bust
I switched from Cluster to Air Strike and don’t regret it!
The eagle air strike is the best one by far of the eagle ones
@@mkaleborn I run straight eagle strikes, they're just the best.
Or what I call "oops, I thought I gave enough warning--I'll respawn you, bro"
Helldivers 2 is the game we've all been asking for for years. It's the kinda game we've been waiting for all the big studios like ubisoft, ea, Activision, etc. to make for years.
This shit makes me feel like a kid again and im loving every second of it.
I already loved the video due to your commentary and then I noticed your Spiritbox tee and loved it even more, haha!
amazing video, i enjoyed it a lot. it kept me very entertained while also leaving me feeling like the time i just spent (usually wasted) on this youtube video was time well spent. you said you usually like to put good effort in what you make and i can see that in this video :)
My brother used to love video games. We used to play a lot together. He even skipped out on Diablo 4, a franchise that's a staple of our childhood.
But he picked up Helldivers 2. We feel like we're kids again. This game is so fun and we even played the first one but this is miles ahead. Faith in gaming restored. Thank you, Arrowhead!
Trust me he wasn't missing anything with Diablo 4 that's my biggest financial regret of 2023
Games just have to be pure fun, with devs actually putting love into them, and nothing else. Who have thought...
People got starved with the corporations designing games to be addictive, money sucking (and even politically correct). Everything that benefits said corporations, but not the players (harms the players actually).
Because "effective managers" in suits decide what games are, not enthusiastic devs who love what they are doing and want to share it with others.
Games just need to be smaller, not bloated AAA. More independent.
@@valonstriker ooof. My xbox friends were playing Diablo 4 non stop (the first month) and were talking about it so much but i knew, i would not like it, so i skipped it. Then one day, a friend gifted me Diablo 4. Fortunately the gifted code did not work (He is in USA, i am in Europe), so he got a refund and i am glad he did not waste 100$ for me.
Helldivers only game I cared about since d2r
@@valonstrikersame
Personally, each time I get on and find the servers full, I think about how deserving the dev team is of their success and I cannot wait to get in and enjoy this wonderful game!
Wow, good take! Hoping you have no queue tonight 👍
exactly im low key happy for them and patient to grind some stuff on my own till they balance things out on a patch..never thought it would be this good or successfull for them across the board.. Battlefield take note..al we want and need is old school basics.
They dead ass did not expect this volume.
I haven't had this much fun in a game in a long time. It's just pure fun, no chore like feeling but every game feels like me and my friends are in an action movie, something crazy always happpens
4:50 hold up, you guys are making plans, i just dive in with my squad and then we ball
as a former destiny player, Ive been playing helldivers 2 and I love it. Monetization is not abusive😊
Another guardian here!!! I’ve been stepping away from destiny trying to find games to fill in parts of it, helldivers is filling the co op pve shooter and I’m loving it!!!
As someone who've only played Destiny 2 (and rather recently), what really turned me off D2 was the monetization and anti-social community around it... Either you ran the right gear and were the right level, or you'd be kicked or dodged by 90% of other players.
D2 really felt like an empty co-op shooter, because nobody seem to want to play together.
This is where Helldivers 2 seem refreshingly different, people celebrate getting partied up, because they missions are so fucking brutal at the highest difficulties, that everybody wants help ^^
I hope this sense of shared struggle keeps going, making things easier would be honestly be worse for the game's longevity - the struggle brings players together.
side note: the loading screens in Helldivers 2 also feel better integrated, but that's more a nice touch than a necessity.
The closest game we have to a destiny killer. I didn't touch destiny once last week (minus checking brightdust for a couple minutes). Have no need for the wishes, or anything else. It's been helldivers all week
@@baskimo5346congrats on breaking free Citizen
Imagine if we could find eververse currency in patrol zones
"The impossible" where they just do the basics right and succeed 🤯.
I want to see a top 10 list for when minor studios went: “hold my beer”
imposible :D
Sloclap with SIFU is one of them.
Number 1 and 2 are def Helldivers and BG3
@@WeakestSunshotEnjoyer can’t argue that. Think Palworld, and maybe Last Epoch, eventually Path of Exile 2, Dragons Dogma 2 seems to also have fans very excited. Just crazy to think these big studios are just ignoring common sense when they ship us their “AAA” masterpieces 💩
@@jaxuysDragons Dogma 2 is made by Capcom. This is not a "AAA" vs Indie argument, this is a matter of gamers finally developing enough taste to be discerning.
HD2 is such an amalgamation of co-op horde shooters, and the way the open world + extraction genre perfectly blends well offering finite replayability. it blends well like Palworlds Monster taming to survivial genre but in this case co-op horde shooters aint that saturated ( i appreciate indie and AA for keeping it like that for the genre)
Awesome video and love the Spiritbox shirt!
As an Xbox main I’d like to see Helldivers on Xbox, but I also have a PS5 where I’m currently “doing my part”. The only good bug is a dead bug.
Well said citizen
Sadly won't happen I don't think , Sony is archaic at times even though I love their consoles.
@@omarsabeur9039and Xbox isn't? They just bought up a bunch of gaming companies for exclusivity rights, but Sony makes a game that blows up and the Xbox people wonder where their slice of the pie is. Doesn't make sense to me.
@@petermaupin2068 You're right , I sort of like exclusives but I feel for anybody missing out
Fuck the bugs, we need help on the machine front, soldier!
That is general dynamic in all of industry. You got some people who love what they are doing and build something great. They get successful and attract the money suits, who have neither clue about nor love for the product. From there on it is milking the famed product by reducing its quality whilst increasing marketing. Death follows since love left.
5:58 I guess it's not just CEOs that have the memory of a goldfish, just 5 seconds earlier (5:53) you JUST read his statement where he ends with: "We do the same thing"
8:15 I remember the original Horse Armor. We really have come full circle.
I haven't made new friends in 10 yrs...but this game made me have fun with new ppl...now I have 8 new friends in the 2-ish week this game has been out😊
It takes much longer to get to level 20 (max level required for the existing gear, i’m sure that will go up in the future) than it takes to get enough super credits to unlock the premium warbond. And it takes even Longer to unlock all the stuff in the warbonds, which you can’t buy. So yeah, it feels super achievable to just do it yourself without spending money, while also being Able to spend money if you want extra cosmetics or to support the studio. The strongest primary gun in the game isn’t even in the premium warbonds (the breaker). So i’m also Very happy with their system
Why do I feel like Malawian creak will be an infamous location even after we take it
Helldivers 2 gives me that same feeling I got as a kid running around my house with my toy guns mowing down hordes of monsters aka the living room furniture.
Helldivers 2 cured my depression. I’m serious.
If that's true then that's extremely sad
helldivers gave me depression fucking bullshit alpha game refunded the fuck out of it
Nice. Hope it goes into remission.
@@p_serdiuk Thanks brother, I’m really enjoying this game with friends, we all can’t stop playing it, talking about it. We all feel like videogames made a comeback and this feels very OG to us, kind of like when we played Halo 2 multiplayer for hours back in the day.
@@lordzed83and you’ll be buying it again soon I’m sure
In Spencer’s defense (which I am no fan of Phil) he did say “We do it too.”
spirit box mentioned 🔥 (sweet video too man)
Playing the shit out of the first one and seeing it get taken off the ps store, it’s insane to see how insanely popular the second one is. I didn’t even know they would make a new game till a month ago. If I had to say so myself I’m pretty happy to see it blossom.
Most gamers who are older now will tell you, their best memories from gaming in their younger years were playing with your friends, against your friends, laughing lightly bullying each other, just having fun stuff that a lot of games fail to provide today. This game gives you the tools and lets you have fun the way you want to it brings back that feeling of couch coop games. So funny what you can achieve when game direction is guided by people who love games themselves, instead of being guided by someone who doesnt understand the product they want to make and instead just try to copy someone or chase trends.
When you work as a team and coordinate and things go smoothly..this game is amazing! But when you don’t and everything falls apart and reverts to chaos..this game is amazing!
Some of the funniest moments are when things go sideways. My brother has a habit of accidental teamkilling and being mowed down by his own turrets lmao
@@thomasallen9974 Definitely. I jumped out of cover to throw out an orbital attack but got shot and dropped it and heard my teammates collectively say “shit!” And I started yelling “run! run!” It was hilarious. But the bane of my existence are mines.
I be raging when the latter happens
@@74Spyderman Another fellow diver that's also bamboozled by mines. I've had to many deaths to count from not noticing them lmao.
the answer shown at @3:01 is pure gold. Also, it showed that he knows his place as a CEO.
HD2 is one of the most fun online experiences I've ever had. It's a terrific game, and once the kinks get worked out completely, people are going to be absolutely stunned by how good the gameplay is. I've been playing for about a week, and I've loved every second of gameplay. Once you unlock the higher difficulties, the fun intensifies, and so does the need for strategy and mastery. I'm so pleased to have given it a chance, despite the server issues which are now currently resolved for the last several days. Give it a chance, you will not regret it.
I can't help but wonder where that sharing attitude was in years past, Mr. Spencer.
The guy is a failed leader counting his last days running the brand . He wants what benefits him not gamers.
I wonder if AAA and AAAA just refers to people shouting in frustration
Never tuned in before. Searched for helldivers 2 and saw your stuff. Helped me decide to buy it, thanks! Will sub
6:50 bro hit em with the Poe Dameron look
This game alone brought me back to life play. It’s simply incredible and they don’t nickel and dime you to get an advantage (EA, Ubisoft, etc. ).
The soundtrack is just pristine.
Arrowhead's CEO is a GIGACHAD
What i would like to see after arrowhead fix server issues. Dynamic aim with programable trigger like sniper elitre 5 have. Colaboration with franchise like alien, terminator, starship troopers. Gun upgrade system like in helldivers 1. More factions. Dysident invasion/impostor. Mixed faction mission, automatons + bug mission.
Its so refreshing to not feel like I am getting nickel and dime'd to get the next unlock. The server thing is a bit annoying but whatever stay in the queue, take a break - give your kids a hug, make a coffee then come back and dispense democracy.
I agree with this whole video.
“They have to value our enjoyment as much as they value the money” is so true. I LOVE HELLDIVERS 2. I never heard of this game til my friend brought it up. The fact I can earn Supercredits I so insane, I love it. Makes me feel like my time isn’t worthless or wasted, after all it’s the most valuable thing in the world.
I hope the Arrowhead Studios guys see this. I’m 27, I grew up playing Halo. I haven’t had this much fun playing a game since Halo 2-3. Thank you for making such a good game. It has its small bugs but we squash those right?
On a serious note, it’s a perfect game. So simple and so addictive. 10/10 in my eyes, I’m excited where they go with this.
Loved this comment! Haha i remember growing up on halo and having a blast with friends in forger! Think I'm going to pick this game up as well. I'm a year older than you myself 😅
This is the second game ive played thats done it, made a great game with a battlepass that doesn't screw you over, Deep rock galactic has a free battle pass that lasts a good while, then once its over the items will mkve into the ingame shop (there is no premium currency, so everything is earned in game and theres two different ways to buy cosmetics) and also moved to the ingame collectable cosmetic caches, you open them in the mission, after you engage with the games mechanics, wanna open a cache? You find the batteries and put them back, lost miner pack? Well you're going mining and looking at your map, theres the machines event which gives cores, which are cosmetics OR unique upgrades to weapons
Just playing the game will get you items, and there are cosmetics you can but only if you want to and even then honestly the best cosmetics are found in game through hardwork.
Its actually great to see another game like this
theres very few games i would say vc is required and this is one of them. i immediately made two friends when jumping into cooperative for the first time.
I haven't really had a problem getting into the game at all. Sometimes I have to sit in que for like 10-20-30 min but I just walk away from my computer and do something else for that time.
You’re lucky then. There’s lots of us who can’t get on at all
@@KB-ql8cx especially with an unknown amount of people actively sitting afk because there's no idle kick timer, they're just taking up spots while the active players struggle with zero reinforcements because they wanna call ppl trying to login "toxic"
@@KB-ql8cx On PC or PS5?
@@TrampMachine The issue is currently on PC, players have to wait in queue to get in, some are given black screens as a side effect of bloated server capacity.
Thank you! An actual healthy response to the problem.
Don’t get me wrong, it is a problem that needs fixed, but it’s not worth screaming at the devs who have shown they’re working hard to fix it.