🛒 Apollo 5k: • Shop Solar: shopsolarkits.com/products/hy... • Use Code: THESOLARLAB for $101 Off Your Order Over $2,000 • Hysolis: hysolis.com/products/apollo?r... 🛒 Anker F3800: • Shop Solar: shopsolarkits.com/products/an... • Use Code: THESOLARLAB for $101 Off Your Order Over $2,000 • Anker: shrsl.com/4f6fc 🛒 EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra: • Shop Solar: shopsolarkits.com/collections... • Use Code: THESOLARLAB for $101 Off Your Order Over $2,000 • EcoFlow: shrsl.com/4el4o ☀ Calculate Solar Panel Cost for your House: www.solar-estimate.org/solar-... 🔔 Subscribe to our UA-cam Channel: @TheSolarLab 0:00 - Intro 0:50 - 60 Second Teardown 3:04 - Favourite Features 5:35 - What We Don't Like 5:50 - What we Don't Like 8:00 - The Price... 8:30 - Comparisons 12:06 - Should you buy it? The Hysolis Apollo 5K... what a power station. This unit leaves us with a lot of questions. It's an amazing power station, and a lot of other people have rightfully talked highly about it. BUT, when it comes to buying it, we think it only makes sense for a small, select group of people. That doesn't mean it isn't awesome! But when taken by a realistic, everyday consumer approach... we wonder! It has an amazing Solar Input, and some great potential expandability specs int terms of having the largest expansions size, and inverter size once you start really spending money on these things.. but is it worth it, or should you just purchase the Delta Pro Ultra instead? We maintain an affiliate relationship with some of the products reviewed, which means we get a small percentage of a sale if you click our links, at no cost to our viewers.
Great video! I came to the same conclusions. Another thing to consider.....even after you buy two Apollos (to more closely match the DPU's inverter and 240 volt capability), you still only have 25 Amps coming out of two combined Apollos. In addition, if I had that kind of cash and bought two DPU's, you actually end of up with the ability to have 50 amps from those two DPU units tied together with the available voltage hub. So just a thought....don't forget about the actual amps coming out of those outlets. For the Anker 3800, you aren't getting 50 amps out of that "50 amp" receptacle. You only get 25 amps. At least with the DPU, you get a true 30 amps out of the single unit 30 amp 240 volt receptacle.
Also, I forgot to mention, you would need to purchase 4 Apollos to get 50 Amp service. You only need 2 DPU's to get 50 amp service. 4 Apollos is quite a bit of money.
That depends on whether two or more Apollos are set up as a single large 120V unit or two or four Apollos are set up for 120/240V split phase. In split phase L1 and L2 are each 120V to output 240V.
Here is what you missed: capital cost per charge. The capital cost per charge of two Apollos is cheaper than one Ultra, even though two Apollos require a higher initial outlay. Apollos rate at 6,000 charge cycles whereas Ultra rate only 3,600. If used every day an Apollo will last slightly less than 17 years whereas an Ultra will last slightly less than 10 years. I cannot address tech support for Ultras but Hysolis is top notch and very fast. They have answers when you need them. Apollo tips: the hot spot for the on switch for the AC inverter is actually located below the icon for the switch. Touch the screen below the on switch and it should work fine. Grounding: you can connect the ground wire to a extention chord with the hot and cold wires disconnected at the plug. That way only the ground pole (green wire) is connected. Plug the chord into a wall socket and the Apollo will then use the ground in your house circuit breaker box. Leave the ground inside of the Apollo that way it came from the factory. Hysolis uses this method for grounding at their facility in California where they test Apollos. Do NOT do this if your Apollo is connected to your house through a transfer box. Your circuit breaker box will supply the ground in that situation. You NEVER need two grounds. One ground in any part of your system is enough to ground it all. Having two grounds can create a dangerous ground loop. When you use solar panels consult your manufacturer or installer for instruction regarding grounding your solar panels or not. Charging an Apollo: you can solar charge and wall or generator charge an Apollo at the same time for faster charging. However, you cannot wall charge AND generator charge an Apollo at the same time. Charging an Apollo: you need an inverter generator with 3% or less THD to generator charge an Apollo or else the Apollo will not accept the charge. It will reject power with more than 3% THD because an Apollo is classified a sensitive electronic equipment. Generators rated more than 2, 000 to 3,000 watts are usually not inverter generators. The adapter you showed that comes with every Aoollo is for a NEMA 5-15 wall socket, not a 30A outlet of any kind. The Apollo charge acceptance rate must be set or changed in the settings menu, either 5, 10, 15, 20, or 25A. No matter what your power source the Apollo won't charge at an amp rate higher than you set per the menu. Obviously, a NEMA 5-15 plug won't fit a 30A RV outlet because it is designed to mate with a NEMA 5-15 outlet. It won't even get warm at 5, 10, or 15A charge rates. You can charge AND use an Apollo when the charge rate is set at 5A. Any higher and the AC inverter must be turned off, i.e., you CANNOT wall or generator charge AND use an Apollo at a 10, 15, 20, or 25A charge rate.
Omg robbie its your new business!! Good luck I just found out this new channel. Hope you are doing well. Battery is your new passion now. I just made the link with all the electronics in your jeep. Keep it up
Thanks for posting this video about the unit's pros and cons. All the videos I have seen on UA-cam never post any cons. They also never tell the viewers to get the full benefit of the unit, you really need to buy two of them.
@@worldcomicsreview354Yes, but if you're aware of Will Prowse you're also aware that they redesigned it so that it does not shock and he reviewed the new one.
I really wanted this system but the price tag kept me away. Out of the blue one popped up on marketplace 3200 for the unit and a expandable battery couldn't pass it up. Very happy with it I plan on adding another unit in the future to run 240
You should check out the SP240 from Point Zero Energy. 120v / 240v single standalone unit. It's low frequency, not high frequency like these the high frequency China units. Just check the difference between low and high frequency. Low frequency is way better,stronger,serviceable. Big plus, the PZ Energy unit us twin phase single unit,240v and can utilize any battery / battery chemistry. 240v twin phase 4000 watt continuous 8000w surge, dual ups, high voltage solar input
Great video! Yes I agree this not is not for your everyday person, might be more for business mom and pop owners(??) btw speaking of everyday joe, any chance you will review $500-$1500 power station price points? - keep up the great entertaining videos!
What is the quality of tech help. Brought a Zendure, great unit. Tech help to purchase additional cables is a nightmare. From now on, I have to talk to the tech help companies be for purchasing their product. Damn, I miss the big box stores.
overall a good fair intro of this piece. their so called 30 day guaranteed return is not a 100% refund. i confirmed this long ago. they deduct from that paid price if you return it. you need to know that.
For the price it definitely seems like the delta and anker are much more practical. Their email response was lame. They may want to rethink the price tag just saying.
After $2000.00 I’m building my own. I love Ecoflow but they have way too many refurbished units and slow customer service. If I had to pick I’d definitely buy the Hysolis without a hesitation. Point Zero Titan is still my top pick.
So i am launching a battery back up solution that my Amish hero's are getting ul list at the end of the month. what would you recommend for home owners who can't get a generator for back up.
Doesn’t the Hysolis last twice as long (6000 cycles)? If so, the price comparison doesn’t matter since you’ll have to buy two EcoFlow delta pro Ultras during one Hysolis lifespan.
They just advertise a different number as far as i remember. EcoFlow advertises 3500 to 80% & then 6000 to 60% (somewhere in the fine print) & Hysolis is the exact same.. they just advertise the 6000 cycles to make it look better. They never say "6000 to 80%" likely because it is not. most these batteries are the same!
I'm here because they offered me a "grant" making the unit $4k & the extra battery $3k. Clicked that crypto mining guy's channel bragging on how this unit has saved him so much money and asked (based on the # of units & extra battery unites) how $30,000 in Atlas units could save him that much electricity. I like US made. I LOVE US customer support. But damn it I need them to well & truly hit a home run with me if this is gonna be my backup. Glad I saw your video to know I have to buy 2 units at "grant" price for $8k to even run split phase. Ouch!!!
That Biden ad at the end of this video, with him asking Americans to" think back only a few years ago, to where we are now", Like I busted out LMFO, is this dude for real.?
100% everything you commented on. Hysolis is just oddly engineered. EF DPU is going to trounce them in sales. And we all know it. If the person on the other end of support has the answers and resources I am looking for, I could care less what accent they have.
Most units have a 3500 cycles till 80%, and approx 6500 cycles to 60% or 50% I believe. Hysollis (as far as I am aware) is advertising the unit at the larger number, where as most use the lower number!
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0:00 - Intro
0:50 - 60 Second Teardown
3:04 - Favourite Features
5:35 - What We Don't Like
5:50 - What we Don't Like
8:00 - The Price...
8:30 - Comparisons
12:06 - Should you buy it?
The Hysolis Apollo 5K... what a power station. This unit leaves us with a lot of questions. It's an amazing power station, and a lot of other people have rightfully talked highly about it. BUT, when it comes to buying it, we think it only makes sense for a small, select group of people. That doesn't mean it isn't awesome! But when taken by a realistic, everyday consumer approach... we wonder! It has an amazing Solar Input, and some great potential expandability specs int terms of having the largest expansions size, and inverter size once you start really spending money on these things.. but is it worth it, or should you just purchase the Delta Pro Ultra instead?
We maintain an affiliate relationship with some of the products reviewed, which means we get a small percentage of a sale if you click our links, at no cost to our viewers.
Great video! I came to the same conclusions. Another thing to consider.....even after you buy two Apollos (to more closely match the DPU's inverter and 240 volt capability), you still only have 25 Amps coming out of two combined Apollos.
In addition, if I had that kind of cash and bought two DPU's, you actually end of up with the ability to have 50 amps from those two DPU units tied together with the available voltage hub.
So just a thought....don't forget about the actual amps coming out of those outlets.
For the Anker 3800, you aren't getting 50 amps out of that "50 amp" receptacle. You only get 25 amps.
At least with the DPU, you get a true 30 amps out of the single unit 30 amp 240 volt receptacle.
Great feedback, it's always great to hear from someone who owns the unit(s).
Also, I forgot to mention, you would need to purchase 4 Apollos to get 50 Amp service. You only need 2 DPU's to get 50 amp service. 4 Apollos is quite a bit of money.
@@criticalhadlock886 Rich people addicted to Spend Money. Even if $60K for 4-units thats just a Blink
Yes. 6000w inverter ÷ 240v is 25A
and DPU 7200w inverter ÷ 240v is 30A.
That depends on whether two or more Apollos are set up as a single large 120V unit or two or four Apollos are set up for 120/240V split phase. In split phase L1 and L2 are each 120V to output 240V.
Here is what you missed: capital cost per charge. The capital cost per charge of two Apollos is cheaper than one Ultra, even though two Apollos require a higher initial outlay. Apollos rate at 6,000 charge cycles whereas Ultra rate only 3,600. If used every day an Apollo will last slightly less than 17 years whereas an Ultra will last slightly less than 10 years. I cannot address tech support for Ultras but Hysolis is top notch and very fast. They have answers when you need them.
Apollo tips: the hot spot for the on switch for the AC inverter is actually located below the icon for the switch. Touch the screen below the on switch and it should work fine.
Grounding: you can connect the ground wire to a extention chord with the hot and cold wires disconnected at the plug. That way only the ground pole (green wire) is connected. Plug the chord into a wall socket and the Apollo will then use the ground in your house circuit breaker box. Leave the ground inside of the Apollo that way it came from the factory. Hysolis uses this method for grounding at their facility in California where they test Apollos. Do NOT do this if your Apollo is connected to your house through a transfer box. Your circuit breaker box will supply the ground in that situation. You NEVER need two grounds. One ground in any part of your system is enough to ground it all. Having two grounds can create a dangerous ground loop. When you use solar panels consult your manufacturer or installer for instruction regarding grounding your solar panels or not.
Charging an Apollo: you can solar charge and wall or generator charge an Apollo at the same time for faster charging. However, you cannot wall charge AND generator charge an Apollo at the same time.
Charging an Apollo: you need an inverter generator with 3% or less THD to generator charge an Apollo or else the Apollo will not accept the charge. It will reject power with more than 3% THD because an Apollo is classified a sensitive electronic equipment. Generators rated more than 2, 000 to 3,000 watts are usually not inverter generators.
The adapter you showed that comes with every Aoollo is for a NEMA 5-15 wall socket, not a 30A outlet of any kind. The Apollo charge acceptance rate must be set or changed in the settings menu, either 5, 10, 15, 20, or 25A. No matter what your power source the Apollo won't charge at an amp rate higher than you set per the menu. Obviously, a NEMA 5-15 plug won't fit a 30A RV outlet because it is designed to mate with a NEMA 5-15 outlet. It won't even get warm at 5, 10, or 15A charge rates. You can charge AND use an Apollo when the charge rate is set at 5A. Any higher and the AC inverter must be turned off, i.e., you CANNOT wall or generator charge AND use an Apollo at a 10, 15, 20, or 25A charge rate.
Omg robbie its your new business!! Good luck I just found out this new channel. Hope you are doing well.
Battery is your new passion now. I just made the link with all the electronics in your jeep.
Keep it up
I miss the old days about car passion but I think we need to pass nostalgia and evolve 💪
thank you❤️
Thanks for posting this video about the unit's pros and cons. All the videos I have seen on UA-cam never post any cons. They also never tell the viewers to get the full benefit of the unit, you really need to buy two of them.
I beleive Will Prowse found this unit (well, an earlier version) quite shocking...
@@worldcomicsreview354Yes, but if you're aware of Will Prowse you're also aware that they redesigned it so that it does not shock and he reviewed the new one.
I really wanted this system but the price tag kept me away. Out of the blue one popped up on marketplace 3200 for the unit and a expandable battery couldn't pass it up. Very happy with it I plan on adding another unit in the future to run 240
You should check out the SP240 from Point Zero Energy. 120v / 240v single standalone unit. It's low frequency, not high frequency like these the high frequency China units. Just check the difference between low and high frequency. Low frequency is way better,stronger,serviceable. Big plus, the PZ Energy unit us twin phase single unit,240v and can utilize any battery / battery chemistry. 240v twin phase 4000 watt continuous 8000w surge, dual ups, high voltage solar input
Great video! Yes I agree this not is not for your everyday person, might be more for business mom and pop owners(??) btw speaking of everyday joe, any chance you will review $500-$1500 power station price points? - keep up the great entertaining videos!
Yes! Keep your eyes out for a few videos in the next couple of weeks!
What is the quality of tech help. Brought a Zendure, great unit. Tech help to purchase additional cables is a nightmare. From now on, I have to talk to the tech help companies be for purchasing their product. Damn, I miss the big box stores.
overall a good fair intro of this piece. their so called 30 day guaranteed return is not a 100% refund. i confirmed this long ago. they deduct from that paid price if you return it. you need to know that.
The Hysolis is a toroidal inverter so it's better if you have inductive loads like large fans or pumps and will last longer.
You missed the main advantage that has no comparison: the battery life, that is, 6000 charging cycles.
Which unit needs software updates that will be hard to get when the power is out?
For the price it definitely seems like the delta and anker are much more practical. Their email response was lame. They may want to rethink the price tag just saying.
After $2000.00 I’m building my own. I love Ecoflow but they have way too many refurbished units and slow customer service. If I had to pick I’d definitely buy the Hysolis without a hesitation. Point Zero Titan is still my top pick.
So i am launching a battery back up solution that my Amish hero's are getting ul list at the end of the month. what would you recommend for home owners who can't get a generator for back up.
I'm not 100% sure this is available in the UK
It's unavailable in the UK at the moment, but heard they are working on it!
Doesn’t the Hysolis last twice as long (6000 cycles)? If so, the price comparison doesn’t matter since you’ll have to buy two EcoFlow delta pro Ultras during one Hysolis lifespan.
They just advertise a different number as far as i remember. EcoFlow advertises 3500 to 80% & then 6000 to 60% (somewhere in the fine print) & Hysolis is the exact same.. they just advertise the 6000 cycles to make it look better. They never say "6000 to 80%" likely because it is not. most these batteries are the same!
Is the quiz available?
Bluetti has a 30 day guarantee also. I was able to return a power station for a full refund. Postage paid.
I'm here because they offered me a "grant" making the unit $4k & the extra battery $3k. Clicked that crypto mining guy's channel bragging on how this unit has saved him so much money and asked (based on the # of units & extra battery unites) how $30,000 in Atlas units could save him that much electricity.
I like US made. I LOVE US customer support. But damn it I need them to well & truly hit a home run with me if this is gonna be my backup. Glad I saw your video to know I have to buy 2 units at "grant" price for $8k to even run split phase. Ouch!!!
That Biden ad at the end of this video, with him asking Americans to" think back only a few years ago, to where we are now", Like I busted out LMFO, is this dude for real.?
Apparently Americans did look back at where we were and looked at where we are now and voted.
100% everything you commented on. Hysolis is just oddly engineered. EF DPU is going to trounce them in sales. And we all know it. If the person on the other end of support has the answers and resources I am looking for, I could care less what accent they have.
Battery life cycles. Doesn't the Hysolis beat everything hands down...??
Most units have a 3500 cycles till 80%, and approx 6500 cycles to 60% or 50% I believe. Hysollis (as far as I am aware) is advertising the unit at the larger number, where as most use the lower number!
A big comparison that ive seen is the Apollo has 6000 charges and the dpu is around 3600 thats just from what ive read.l, before battery degradation.
Ecoflow has terrible customer sercice!
Yes and so does bluetti.
I agree. Not buying anymore and will be returning the ecoflow delta max I recently purchased
Its like Apollonia.
Too MUCH Woman for me.