The Perfect Modern Spider-Man Comic that No One Talks About
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- The Perfect Modern Spider-Man Comic that No One Talks About
In this LewisFilms video essay we talk about Marvel Comics' The amazing spider-man renew your vows and how it is the perfect modern spider-man comic for what the zeb wells spider-man comic run should be. I am a big advocate for this comic after reading it for the first ever time, which features Peter Parker aka Spider-Man, Mary-Jane Watson aka Spinneret and Annie-May Parker aka Spiderling. This new Spider family dynamic works super well for a future story in the world of Peter Parker and I wish they continued with something like this in a similar vein, in the 616 universe of Marvel comic books.
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While I do prefer Mayday Parker to be Peter's daughter but I like Annie Parker and I feel she's quite underrated and needs more attention (maybe even a cameo in Across the Spider Verse)
Maybe Annie can be in the games.
@@mr.dystopian5554 I'd love that too
She actually has one already. Look at the trailer and you can see her and Spinneret in that giant "hub" where all the Spider People are.
I'm not all that familiar with "Renew Your Vows", but I think it could be assumed that Annie*May* and *May*day are quantum counterparts to each other.
@@AustynSN No actually. May is the baby Pete and MJ lost in the Clone Saga while Annie is the baby they'd have had during Civil War had there been no Mephisto. It gets confirmed in the book itself and the Spider-Girls story where Mayday and Annie actually meet each other.
I loved this story because Peter grew and was allowed a family
Same
It worked for Clark Kent. And it sure will work for Peter. Peter J Tomasi and Patrick Gleason's family centered run on Superman is so good. Bummer DC took that away from us. Yes,I'm more of a DC guy rather than a Marvel guy so yeah.
It worked for Clark till Bendis decided that writing for a family is hard. Then immediately broke up the family for his run.
@@CornBreadtm1Brian Micheal Bendis, Zeb Wells and Tom King
The writers that destroy years of character development and phenomenal writing
It even works on Superman and Lois
To see that creative duo write an older Spidey would be a dream come true
@@CornBreadtm1 Say what
What issue was that
Least the kid(s) are still there and other Super-prefixes are still there, right?
One of my favorite moments with the RYV universe is during the spider gedon event when Mayday meets RYV Spider-Man, MJ and Annie. It was such a nice moment because in the RYV universe MJ and Pete still lost MayDay so Mj and Pete seeing their first daughter actually alive and all grown up is a lot to take in.
I haven’t read that one yet, sounds like a really nice moment!
@@LewisFilmsProductions it’s really sweet. Highly recommend
@@LewisFilmsProductions Its called Spider-Girls, a tie-in to Spider-Geddon. It kinda works as its own series tbh. The interaction between Annie, Mayday and Anya Corazon is pretty sweet and wholesome.
@@jeppyjepdo you know the specific volume the scene appears in?
@@toonhub3216 They met in issue 1 of Spider-Girls. That tie-in only has 3 issues and all of it are Mayday, Annie and Anya trying to solve the whole Inheritors thing.
I love the Lengths that Peter's willing to go to protect his family, Killing Venom, Dismembering Doc Ock fully aware that he feels pain with the robotic limbs for threatening his loved ones, and webbing Hobgoblin's hand to his own bomb going off in his hand. Never mess with Spider-Man in Dad Mode
which comics were these?
@@giltyakhtar it's from the Spider-Man Renew Your Vows 2015 comic run
He beat the crap out of Rhino and everyone in the Bar with No name too
@@no.1spidey-fan182the best part is that rhino would Tell him where Annie was but he beat the shit out of him anyway
Why in the world RYV dicontinued?! These stories sounds amazing!
The best way for marvel to except Spider-Man as a family man like in Renew Your Vows, Spider-girl, or Life Story is to tell this side of his life in movie format. That is why I am excited for Spider-Man Across the Spider Verse, where Peter B Parker will have a daughter. If critical/audience responds to this is highly positive, then the comic books might be persuaded to tell more of the Spider-Dad story.
I was thinking the same thing yesterday.
Too bad Peter was sidelined and Mayday was used for comic relief and a crutch for Peter😭
@@no.1spidey-fan182 Yes.
Renew Your Vows is probably my fav Spider-Man comics of all time. Its a cute, fun and wholesome superhero slice-of-life adventure of the Parker's family. Annie is so cute, bubbly and energetic. She reminds me of my sister.
At this rate miles will get married and have a family while Peter is still graduating high school.
Lmao probably
While i haven't read 'Renew Your Vows', it definitely gives me Incredibles vibes with the whole super hero family dynamic. Feels natural; feels right. _Feels good, man._
Gerry Conway really hit it out of the park with this series and even Jody Houser once she took over after the timeskip. It's such a perfect growth of Peter and Mary Jane's characters and I love Annie May even more than I like Mayday just because we get to see her grow up as a child and not just as a teenager right from the get-go.
I agree
I also prefer Annie over Mayday because Annie follows Peter's side more, while Mayday has MJ traits. Annie struggled to make friends in high school but managed to make some friends with the drama club she joined and Normie Osborn. She's quite introverted and not as confident or sassy as Mayday. Mayday is confident, sexy and stylish. She has a lot of friends and love interests, she's popular in school and wears stylish clothes to school, as opposed to Annie wearing normal tshirt and jeans. I really love Mayday, but i prefer Annie since she reminds me of Peter.
@@jeppyjepfunny you say that since Mayday takes after Peter in physical traits and Annie takes after MJ😂
In my headcanon. This is the real Spider-Man
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I remember following this series, and in the back of my mind believing that if I pre-ordered it enough and it somehow sold numbers comparable or even outsold the main title, the main universe would have to take notice as a result. It was a wonderful few months. Then the cracks started showing when the main writer left. And then the artist only did covers. And the artist they left was...not very good. And then they Jon Kent Superboy'd it and did a time jump for no reason. My tinfoil hat says Marvel execs purposefully sabotaged it to tank the book, but the reality is that it probably didn't sell as well as I or they were hoping for, so less effort was put in.
At least they time-jumped the entire story instead of having one character "get lost in another reality" to suddenly explain why they were 10 years older or had two kids or other nonsense.
Atleast the time jump is still good. The family dynamic is pretty much the same under new writer, Jody Houser. The characters also stay the same, except for Annie a lil bit. She's still energetic and bubbly like she used to be but has a lil bit of teenage "embarassed with her dad" type thing.
@@AustynSN
what's funny that logically I'm not exactly mad at MJ for that.
many comics, including the Invincible, pulled that shit up. Heck even in Invincible Eve waited for 5 years and then started dating that blue guy before Mark showed up whereas for MJ the time has passed 17 years. What I hate is why they needed to do this and if so how badly they pulled the outcome. Mark had a mature response even tho he kinda felt weird . In his own lines " I can be both understandable and frustrated at the same time. I'm not blaming you for anything" and Eve and Mark had a kid as an attachment to stick together. MJ and Peter had none and the way Peter broke down , started begging to see her and other bs was just pathetic to see. It's not like there are what ifs and alternate version of Peter where he left Mj ( notably Assassin Spider) but the way they wrote the current 616 version is just sad. It's more salt in the wound when literally in december 2023 the Ultimate universe got a reboot and we see a 30 yr old Peter with MJ and his kids, Uncle Ben and JJ just chilling and giving Peter advices and everything going smoothly in that world .
I love Spider-Man renew your vows especially Annie. The only thing I wish Marvel would had done with her was make her stay a little girl longer before making her a teenager so quickly especially since we got Mayday for that. It would’ve been nice to see more adventures of little Spiderling.
Marvel Fans🤝DC Fans
Wishing the writers didn't age up a fan-favorite kid character so soon.
@@sonicsaiyan07 My Jon-Kent-fan sense is tingling.
I loved this run, I collected the whole series while it was coming out, and got the first issue signed by the penciller Ryan Stegman. Underrated series for sure.
I wasn't introduced as a kid to Spider-Man in the comic books when he was a single bachelor. That's great, but I fell in love with Spider-Man comics when he was married. I love Spider-family stuff too, but i don't even need them to have a kid yet. Keep that in an alternate universe if need be, but there shouldn't be anything boring or unrelatable about everyman Peter Parker being in a happy and reasonably healthy marriage with a good (and gorgeous) woman who loves, understands, and accepts him. Imo, both J. Michael Straczynski (until editorial forced him to do some stories in the end I think we all regret) and David Michelinie especially prove that you can tell interesting, exciting, and iconic stories even though he isn't a single bachelor. Everyone loves teenage Spider-Man, but proper adult Spuder-Man isn't any "less relatable" because of his motto that makes him who he is, "with great power, there must also become great responsibility." Spider-Man as a growing adult making his way in life, not getting overcome by life's challenges, but struggling and coming out witg victories in the win column along with the defeats is relatable because Spider-Man is about the weird and awkward spider with surprising potential becoming the man. Spider-Man represents learning from your mistakes through trial and error, growing as a person into a great hero and an even better human being, taking on responsibilities for the good of ourselves and others, and, to quote an old maester of the Wall, to "kill the boy, so that the man may be born." We don't need Petwr to be a middle aged man with back problems (although Spider-verse's Peter B. Parker is one of the best in modern memory). He's a young man who's comfortably in adulthood somewhere between 25 and 30, when most people start to figure out a few things, not have everything worked out by any means (men don't really establish themselves and reach their peak potential until around 35-45), but it is a time when they begin to come into their own and begin to establish and build toward the kind of person they wanna be and the goals they want to accomplish. That's what Peter Parker needs.
When I read this all I thought was why was this not the main timeline giving us a more serious and mature Spiderman stories with all the aspects we love of them with a new sense of responsibility as this is what Spiderman is all about and make Miles the kid that does all the goofy stuff which is the other aspect of Spiderman
The first issue of this series is the very first comic I read when I got into comics in 2015
I'm always glad to see RYV get talked about. It was the first comic series I collected. Actually went out of my way to do so as well (so many spent lunch breaks). Something you may not know is that this is actually a second run. The original RYV Story was a mini-series part of the Secret Wars event. That story's fine (but doesn't compare to the run) and provides some context on a point or two that the run may not fully explain, such as who Regent was.
One thing you didn't really talk about though was Annie/Spiderling herself. As far as kid characters go, I always thought she was pretty solid. She wants to help and often does, but she's not SO competent that it doesn't feel like the writers are trying to force you to like her. She has her screwups but they feel like legit mistakes a kid would make, especially with her amped up Spider-Sense.
(Side note, and I don't know if you read DC at all, but Annie feels like she'd fit right in as a guest in a Super Sons book)
Renew Your Vows was one of the first comics I read when I started getting into comics. It really set my expectations pretty high for comics early on.
I loved Spider-Man renew your vows it’s such a Amazing series and personally was one of my all time favorite Spider-Man stories I read in the present day in a very long time, also a bonus seeing Spider-Man Peter Parker and Mary Jane and there daughter annie may Parker bring a great crime fighting trio is really awesome and tons of fun that I really wanted this book to be canon in the mainstream marvel universe at least in my opinion.
I love Renew your vows, it sucks that it isn’t cannon to the 616 universe. At least Annie may is in marvel dark ages, and her and mj spinneret are in across the spider verse.
I love Renew Your Vows, it has great stories. One I really did love was a story were Peter and MJ think about taking Annie to a school were she would be also teached in using her superpowers. Is there one school like that in Marvel? Yeah, they take her to the X-Men, and RYVs Universe X-Men were an interesting variant of X-Men mythos.
Read the 5 issue miniseries that started this, it is part of Battleworld, Regent wasn't a company, he was a dictator. It was really good.
Yeah the miniseries is back in black but spiderdad
Yeah, OP video is good however how can you appreciate Renew Your Wovs without the 2015 miniseries that started it? Not sure if I missed, however in the video he doesn't says anything about that, hope he didn't only read the vol. 2
@@baanfoo_8318 yeah you can a lot of people will say the miniseries wasn't good till stegman and Conway took over
This comic is good, but I would personally say Spider-Man: Life Story is better
I think Renew your Vows is better but that's fine
They’re both perfect (imo) but my opinion changes depending on the moment
I think life story is good but it should’ve been six issues per decade so things can have more room to breath and it doesn’t feel as bloated
Life story is fantastic but all too brief by its concept....renew your vows gives me what I want from spidey...growth of the character into a father with MJ and their daughter.
@@chrismennell1606 to be fair, it was intended to be longer with each decades but editorial said no
If you haven't yet I highly recommend reading Spider-Girl with May-Day Parker
Great comic book saga loved it.
I love Spider-Girl, but its pretty different from Renew Your Vows. Spider-Girl is about Mayday while Renew Your Vows is about Parker's family. Spider-Girl has Mayday learns how to be a hero, her being in love and so on. Peter and MJ didnt really appear that much in it. In Renew Your Vows, we see MJ struggling with her fashion business but still manages to handle it and we see Peter learn how to be a dad and finds new job as a teacher. I love Renew Your Vows more because it emphasized the family part as opposed to just focus on Annie.
Overall, both are different but great comic books.
@@jeppyjep MJ was great ,but the perfect match for peter has been always Gwen and SILK. Sadly instead of leaving her dead now she is part of the spider family and when he started to have a great relationship with SILK ... Disney bought marvel.and killed that relationship. It kind of sucks because you saw in the silk, spiderman relationship the care that peter had with mj and gwen and the lust that he had with black cat in one person. Now that Peter.was cucked and has been humilliated via his character , Marvel should.comeback to focus in the relationship Cindy-Peter
@@jehnart Eh, i dont like the relationship between Peter and Cindy. Cindy is a great character and Silk comics are among my favs, but i dont see any genuine feelings from both of them. They got together initially from the whole pheromones thing. Now, Cindy is doing better in her 2022 miniseries. I hope she would get more comic runs in the future.
@@jehnart spider-girl also feel like naturally progression of a character.
The reason why I love renew your vows so much is because I loved the concept that was presented here! I loved seeing Spider-Man as a dad and a husband! To me that's very important than some comic events with 2099, or Noir. It's probably the big reason why I'm excited for Across the spider verse because we're about to see the same thing happening to Peter B. Parker as he is now back together with Mary Jane and has a kid. Maybe this could force marvel editoral to not be afraid about letting Spider-Man grow up and be a proper adult for once!
I really enjoyed the 5-issue 1st volume, and I'm glad they followed it with a 2nd volume with 23 issues. Not all stories were great, of course, but you're right about this version of Peter and MJ... I loved them this way.
This is such a good story. I hope Marvel eventually lets Peter grow and use Spider people like Miles for the more teenage stories and problems, while Peter tackles different, more adult problems in his life
this would also make a great series to adapt to film to bring back Tobey and Kirsten.
afaic, this IS Spider-Man, and THIS is what Mephisto (read: editorial) is afraid of.
I still believe that the Renew Your Vows miniseries was the best story that Dan Slott has ever written.
Now, Renew Your Vows (THE ONGOING) was what go me back into comics (along with DC Rebirth). Sometimes the art got a little inconsistent (starting with Ryan Stegman and ending with Scott Koblish) but I felt the overall story was incredible. I get that a lot of people have an affinity for Mayday but I think that Annie was a great addition to the Spider-Family. I can honestly see the two being sisters in the 616 if that ever happens. It sucks that it got canceled. Hopefully we get an omnibus of RYV at some point.
cancelled… *sigh
Annie actually meets Mayday in Spider-Girls comic, a tie-in to Spider-Geddon. Their interaction is so cute and wholesome.
@@jeppyjep m-more… More! MORE!
Dan Slott didn't write the Renew Your Vows ongoing and I actually don't really like the section of Renew Your Vows that Dan wrote for the Secret War event. The first part of the ongoing was written by Jerry Conway, the guy who wrote Spider-Man in the '70s and then was later taken over by Jody Houser after the time skip.
@@brainbuster1234 that's what I meant
Series was unceremoniously canned after editorial undermarketed the run and midway into a storyline. Done dirty. They need a second volume to finish up and continue on.
Love that Shattered Dimensions main menu track at the end.
Mayday is the best spider-girl. I wish we had a story for May where Pete was still active like he is in Renew Your Vows. I genuinely like how its a spider family in RYV and Annie is ok, but Mayday and the MC2 is just so damn charming.
Stories like this one, Old Man Logan and Spider-Man Life Story reafirm my belief that both MARVEL and DC no longer need a main continuity, as not only having to stick to a status quo imposed by the corporatives is doing more harm than good, but also those stories are so much better than anything written in the main continuities for a very long time.
Loved Renew Your Vows, enjoyed Peter growing up, and this series made me enjoy spider Mary Jane.
I love the idea of Mj having powers to be closer to her family, but I find it cheap to have to be spider related, why not some tec he got from Tony or read Richers there’s a lot of fun to have with the idea of maybe Mj being almost behind the scenes like Alfred and batman
This reminds me of Superman in the silver age giving powers to Lois and Jimmy. Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow revisits this is a beautiful conclusion
Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows is the modern take we love to have in the current storyline, cause this really shows that Peter Parker is become a well developed character here and seeing him fighting crime together with his family is so dynamic. They’re way better than Fantastic Four.
Renew Your Vows is PEAK Spidey fiction😌💯🔥🔥
It has all a true Spidey fan NEEDS:
Peter isn't struggling with money
Wholesome fun
STAKES
AMAZING ART
SPIDER DAD
BEST MJ
Even some Back in Black Action
Its composite Spider-Man EVERYTHING GOOD about the character in ONE story. I need to get the physical copy of this book
This is basically if one more day never happened
Yeah essentially
Even before that, this is if civil war never happened or if it was written properly in the first place or with another writer other than Mark Millar lol. And if back in black never happened.
@@anthonygarcia8749 no back in black still technically happened the miniseries is basically back in black with no kingpin beatdown
@@retronerds6884 it's still tethered to an ooc move of Peter unmasking something that would've and should've never happened, JMS even wrote in the bs reasoning that May and MJ were fine with it, just as he had to come up with some reasoning for why Reed does what he does in civil war because of some random ass uncle. Man fuck Mark Millar for the shit he inevitably caused smh lol
I loved that whole universe when they did the follow up's it was so different in so many ways but also yeah
Also Peter completely giving up and moving on from the Bugle is actually really stupid regardless if he's broke or a teacher or a scientist because the Bugle is always good for extra money on the side (not to mention he can compile together and publish another "webs" photo album and get a lot of revenue from that), advice and warmth from well respected peers such as Robby or Betty, ability to get through restricted and/or exclusive events and whatnot via his Bugle press pass, the fact that he has extra resources and can listen in on and catch tips or leads on important cases or big crime sprees going down or the whereabouts of one of his foes, etc., etc.
I agree renew your vows is amazing I hope they continue you it but what I have always wondered what happend to Norman Osborn I know Spider-Man has the same history as 616 pre civil war so did Norman die after marvel knights
I have been getting into your videos about looking over the comics and the BS that's being put into so I will be subscribing.
Thanks for this video
I’ve read this and Spider-Man: Life Story, reading them makes me wish that Marvel would let 616 Peter fully become an adult. With children, I understand what made him relatable, but you’re right he’s in his 30s. There comes a point when he should have at least some his problems figured out.
I hope that Marvel will wake up. And finally ends this time loop
The thing is most people grew up with/were exposed to Spidey as whether in the matieral or media either as a young adult in college and/or a young adult married to MJ dealing everyday life and trials. So the whole sentiment from Quesada, certain fans, and any writer and editors of keeping the character in a position as to where future generations can relate to him is moronic af and holds him back tremendously. It also restricts the character in that he can't have a character trait or arc where it goes outside the range of "relatability" and that's another thing, Spider-Man is a character, victim of people projecting self-inserts onto him and viewing him as a blank slate and a big part of that is because of his youth and his mainstream surface level qualities.
It's called spiderman not spiderboy peter is supposed to grow not stay young the relatability came from his growth as a character not his age and quesda being the moron he is turned Spider-Man from the greatest show on turf to the dm Detroit lions with his changes
I AM A HUGE FAN OF RENEW YOUR VOWS. Honestly my one gripe with it when it went from being a miniseries offshoot of Secret Wars was that the book didn't change it's name to "The Amazing Spider-Family". I adore the story told in the miniseries and the first twelve issues. Sadly however Marvel just had to come along a shite all over it. First they fired the monthly book's original writer Gerry Conway, a veteran of the character who clearly shared our views that Spider-Man must progress to avoid becoming stagnant. He also wrote the highly recommended one shot graphic novel "AMS: Parallel Lives" which I consider to be the definitive story of Peter and Mary Jane's relationship. Conway tried to leave the book in the hands of the artist Ryan Stegman but Marvel kicked him off the title and essentially rebooted the title on #13 with writer Jody Houser and artist Nick Roche. This version destroyed the book in my opinion by jumping 8 years into the future and essentially retreading the territory covered by the Defalco and Frenz' SPIDER-GIRL comics. Under Houser and Roche the book limped along until quietly dying with #23. It was plain as day that Marvel Editorial wanted to kill the book but it was a success under Conway and Stegman, so they replaced them and retooled the book till it was failure they could cancel. Bastards.
Jody Houser did a great job in Renew Your Vows tho. Yes, i also wanted to see more of kid Annie, but teenage Annie is pretty good. She still somewhat energetic and bubbly, but also sometimes "embarassed" with her dad since she entered that teenage phase. Im glad that Jody didnt turn Annie into a stereotypical edgy and mean “You dont understand me” kind of teenager. The family dynamic is kept the same as when Gerry wrote it.
The only gripe i have with it is the art. Ryan Stegman's art is freaking amazing and it feels like a downgrade when other artists draw for RYV. The latter art isnt that bad, but i wish we got better artists for it.
I like this content, this is why I'm subscribed.
Its one of the happier and brighter Spiderman story arcs. The rest usually have him put through a so much truama.
why i'd argue that Tom King's run in Batman wasn't a character assassination. Everything Batman deals with in that comic, and everything he does. Makes sense
"this is a universe where one more day never happened"
i need to get into this universe NOW!
Renew Your Vows did something mainstream comics rarely have the balls to do; had a hero intentionally kill without going crazy or evil or some bullshite.
Venom was explicitly determined to kill Peter's family and recounted how he'd keep trying. He wound up burning to death when Peter dropped a burning building on him. He last words were screaming in denial, "Spider-Man doesn't kill!" like this was somehow unfair.
Peter doesn't become evil nor does he start killing every purse snatcher. He accepts his wife's assurance that he had no other choice.
Agree 💯 . This is my favorite Spider-Man.
I just want Peter to be fucking happy bro like I swear just let him be happy just like this comic it’s one of my favorites just for them letting him be happy and move on
Top video. I love Spider-Man comics videos.
spider man history:has a family dynamic
me:impossible perhaps the archives are incomplete
Thank you for talking about this comics, more people should discover it hell make a version with this family with two more children (mayday and Ben)
Thanks for this video, I need to get the back issues.
I heard comicstorian cover this and I genuinely enjoyed it I wish Marvel did more Adult Family man peter comics again
In the main universe, Mary Jane really doesn't have a reason to become the superheroine Jackpot. The excuse is that she lost her so-called adopted kids and needs to be a heroine to cope. Yeah, that's not very good therapy and her slot-machine luck powers are pretty lame. The main problem with that is that Mary Jane is vulnerable to the law of averages. There's a very good chance she'll either get a weak power or a power that is completely ill-suited to the situation.
Mary Jane as Spinneret is far more believable. She wants to help out her husband and protect her daughter. She understands the danger and is willing to take risks. She understands the responsibility that comes with the power. And eventually, Peter will figure out a way for her to be Spinneret without draining his own powers.
Annie-May Parker is fine, but mayday's better in my opinion. I just think that the idea of MJ becoming a spider person is weird. I mean, I guess it's still cool, but I like her better when she's just regular MJ.
Though I do think it's really cool that Harry has a son in this comic!😃
He had a son in pre-OMD JMD's spectacular spider-man run with Liz Allan lol
Annie and Mayday actually got to meet each other in the Spider-Girls mini-series
@@sonicsaiyan07 wait. WHAT?
I prefer Annie because she has Peter traits while Mayday has MJ traits. Annie as a teen is quite introverted and only manages to make 2-3 friends from the drama club and Normie Osborn. Mayday on the other hand, is a popular girl in school like MJ. She has a lot of friends, a lot of boyfriends/love interest and she's confident, sassy and sexy. Even their appearance reflect their personalities. Mayday wears a lot of stylish clothes to school while Annie wears some basic t-shirts and jeans. I love Mayday a lot, but i prefer Annie because she resembles Peter more.
Don't mean to be this guy, but i take credit for giving you the idea in the comment section from the last vid 😁
I have this whole run, such a good read!
This would be a very beautiful story,if the writers would just wake up & give Peter what he deserves.
After reading current ASM, it's apparent that Nick Lowe can't run the title properly anymore. I miss happy family Spider-Man bcuz it was fun
Great story, also Annie is a big Spider Totem myth character, she is the Patternmaker.
I think RYV was what the main book could have had. I read through the whole series and continuing with Spidergeddon which I missed the first time around and I am hooked on that version of the Parkers. They aren't perfect but they have grown and it's nice to see a more relatable Peter again. I can't stand the wells run and think it has so many plot holes that Rhino could charge through and do no damage to the story.
This made me want the MC2 back as well
I never really cared for renew your vows but it's cool that you like it. Obviously I still prefer it to the BS that we're getting in ASM rn
oh btw Normie Osborn exists in the 616 universe
I remember reading this comic when it came out and even tho I liked it thought it was messed up that the only reason Marvel Comics gave us this was in an alternate universe comic
A great comic that also sadly suffered from a major issue... Being better than the main line comics and out selling it.
That was why they canceled the series and had him hook up with MJ... And why they also broke him up again.
They hooked him up because the spin off was more popular and needed a reason to promote the main line comic and then dumped the idea when they found it easier taunting a possible relationship rather than giving one.
I enjoyed volume 1 I haven't read volume 2 yet will start tomorrow for sure.
Good video and also recommended Spider-Girl. Different continuity, but same willingness to go forward.
And off topic, but for you and others who wanted something current and willing to change, there is Dynamite Comics Gargoyles written by Greg Weisman. Yes the same one who was supervising producer of Young Justice, The Spectacular Spider-Man and the original 65 episodes of Gargoyles animated series.
Looking forward to reading that!
I truly enjoyed this story
Adult Normie Osborn in the Spider-Girl series was a really cool story and character as well.
I love Renew your vow and mayday parked spiders girl comic I wish they bring Annie and mayday were in the same comic having adventure and fighting crime.
Don't forget that the marriage was actually forced into the storyline by Stan Lee's decision to marry Peter and MJ in the newspaper strip (which is now defunct.) There was literally a reference to Peter having sex with the Black Cat ONE ISSUE BEFORE the proposal. Granted, it was in spectacular, but still,it shows how out of the blue the marriage was at the time. Prior to then, while Peter and MJ were talking, there was no real sign that they would marry.
In fact, I still remember a panel in 291 where Peter talks about being 'so damned happy' before deciding to propose... this was absolutely not the case in the books prior to then, it was so forced in that it still sticks out to me decades later.
Can we get a guide on modern Spider-Man comics? There are so many spin offs and mini series and most the UA-cam guides focus on amazing Spider-Man.
I love this story . I loved Anny😢❤😢😢.
This might sound controversial to some people but I prefer this over Spider-Man Life Story. Since this series is has great writing, entertaining characters, fun stories and a nice charming sense of humour. Now while I did enjoy Life Story it just didn't reach the same charm. But it's still good
You should ready spidergirl too then.. cause many of the staff you said were never seen before renew your view actually were already introduced there..
Yo Lewis I tried to make this Fridays stream but I couldn't because remember the brok3n leg yea I'm out for 6 weeks and going to the fracture clinic this tuesday 😢 I'd rather fight through the pain to watch your streams😅
the amazing spider-man renew your vows is my favorite spider-man comic´s of all times😍😁
I though this comic was great. I just always lamented the timeskip where they aged up Spiderling to being a teenager. I was far more invested in the "Jonny Quest" style family adventer tone they had going in the earlier issues and we could of gotten a lot more mileage out of it.
They could have Peter raising her as a child for like 10 years and then start aging her up towards her teen years similar to Valeria from the FF
Exactly! And in the meantime, if they wanted a more teenage daughter-esqe focused Spider-Man series, they could of brought back Mayday.
@@donaldwright8567 I think Mayday should just stay as an alternate reality mc2 thing. While Annie fits perfectly into the main continuity had civil war (been written by someone better and properly lol), back in black, and omd not happened, that's how it would've played out and raising her from a toddler and into a kid for like 10 years, take your time with it, no need to rush and let's enjoy that as well as let Peter enjoy that lol and then transition into a teen. It strengthens the bond and expierence between Peter with his daughter and he can mentor her as she gets older. I'd get rid of MJ having powers because it's not necessary and can do without it lol, I don't mind it within ryv and it adds a different flavor and new dynamic for what it is within the book, but you can say the powers was only a temporary measure, something finite. Because then it just gets silly with MJ being another spider-person like the rest of them smh. And her having no powers is what grounds Peter as a hero, just as Lois is with Clark, and what grounds the family, and offers a different perspective and insight.
@@anthonygarcia8749 To be fair, MJ as Spinneret is the reason why Annie can join them as Spiderling. Peter was strongly against it at first but MJ managed to talk to him and let them help him in combat as family. If MJ wasnt Spinneret, i doubt Peter would bring Annie in battle. He would just told Annie to go home and hang out with her mom or something.
Her being Spinneret also adds to the story when Xavier approached Annie to join his school. She actually has a say in that decision because she's also a superhero now. Her bonding with the Venom symbiote arc was also pretty good. Her not wanting to be a burden to Peter but still want to help him in battle, thus bonding with the symbiote and manages to actually control it strengthen her relationship with Peter.
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@@LewisFilmsProductionsI Would Rather Wanna Peter Parker To Be Happy For Have A Family of His Own Than Wanted To Ruined His Life
Annie may parker sounds like anime Parker i can see Peter coming up with a clever name like that he is are amazing nerd gamer weeb hero so why not great video as always
This series is basically the Spider-Man version of “SPY X Family”. Don’t at me.
Normie Harry's son isn't originally from these comics he's in 616 and even was in the MC2 universe.
But this version is definitely my favorite I like how he's handled.
I loved the Renew your vows series especially since I'm a fan of next gen characters like Annie or Jon Kent Superboy.
Wish this Seires ran longer be cool to see more differences in the universes like does Mile exist cause Iron Man has his modern (at the time) armor so newer stuff from 616 did exist there
Dude, nice video however you should point out the miniserie Renew Your Wovs that started this story, without this miniserie is a little confusing.
If you already pointed out clearly in the video, my bad, I probably missed it.
Own all of these books
I talk about renew your vows and life story every time I talk about what spiderman should be.
marvel: we have to keep Peter Parker loser in perpetual young adult hell, that's what the readers want.
Comic book readers: Fuck that, we want Peter to be married to Mary Jane. And if you want a young Spider-Man, we have Miles Morales.
Marvel: can't hear you I'm giving you that you guys do you want.
"It's too cute! It's disgusting!"
-me at this run
where do u read spiderman comics
I highly reccomend reading Spider-Girl since you like RYV
i love this comic, i have all the issues and i love it
I've been meaning to pick up this series. But I'll be more biased toward the MC2 and how they handled Peter's life and kids.
Spider-Girl doesnt really show Peter's and MJ's life that much. Its Mayday's story, after all. While in Renew Your Vows, we get to see Peter and MJ learning how to be parents. Its not just focus on Annie, it also focused on Peter's struggling to let MJ and Annie help him in combat and MJ struggling with her clothing business. Its a really great comic about thr Parker family in general.
While I do like the RYV story, my only issue with it is letting an 8 yo run around as a superhero. While the Power Pack is a thing, They don't have parental supervision and don't deal with city level threats most of the time. Spider-Man does, and his powers are already being partially drained by MJ using the tech from Regent to simulate his powers, so he and MJ basically make up one spider-person's worth of power. That can cause some issues when you need to save one of your partners.
Spider-man has the guide to greatness in Spider-girl. That was extremely succesful at the time. People don't talk about renew your vows because it's not the mainline continuity. Currently the best spider-man product is Joe Fixit, which is insane.