@@mysteryman9488 That just means Guldo's time stop was stronger than Hit's Time Skip! But yeah, Toriyama kinda is just arbitrary about things sometimes. Actually, you might have a point: the "ignore hax" tier doesn't really start to show up until the Android saga, when Kienzan stops being able to cut through anything and everything.
@@Theycallmetomu It doesn't show up there either since the scene where Cell tanks the kienzan is anime only filler. So yeah this "DBZ characters can bypass haxs if they are strong enough" is just a Super retcon like many other things.
@@Wu_bandz no he would have his space pod. He literally did this before going to earth. Blew up a planet with 2 fingers and just got inside his space pod. And even if didn't, Saiyan Saga Vegeta would 100% not care
That’s actually a good point that telekinesis like Blue, Chiaotzu, or Piccolo could get through it to at least stun him. A better way for Frieza to kill him too than planetary destruction🗿
@@TheSaladBarevery time I see a power scale of making these dumb videos you have Gojo putting up against Goku you end up having to lose because why people go with the popular opinion cuz they're biased and they don't really think for themselves Goku cannot even Master Ultra Instinct yet can't even surpass beerus got one shot it out of that form as a technique not actually a form by black Frieza granola the heaters gas Morrow and not stronger than beerus what is the point of this video you know Gojo's going to win
@@TheSaladBaryou don't know what you're talking about if you not read the Manga and watch the anime you will understand how his powers work but now the mention you're a Dragon Ball channel so be my case you're going to be biased and you're going to have a Dragon Ball character win anyway I already know the outcome before you even made the damn video what difference does it make so what he doesn't matter Gojo can just use domain expansion Just Kill Them All
I just like to imagine after the Saiyan saga everyone would be like ‘oh my god can you FUCK OFF’ to this one guy just stopping time basically and not being able to even scratch them
Really puts things into perspective. In JJK all the magic seems really unique and interesting but take them out of that box and everyone becomes a one-trick pony. DB gets criticized for having all the fights feel the same but there is really much more variety than people give it credit for.
@@santaclaus1365 in db if goku does smthg new like attracting ennemies with ki we'll be like ok he can do that , maybe he could do that since namek saga. In jjk a new technique is something crazy because characters can only get so strong or so fast which make abilities much more important.
@@santaclaus1365 Well, that’s because the CT and CE/PE works on very limited ways depending on the type of CT and the user’s experience, creativity and mastery, on the other hand Ki can basically do pretty much anything
@@qin9150Ki is so fucking versatile it's insane, what still blows my mind is the fact that anyone in Dragonball has essentially limitless potential due to ki. Jiren is just a buff alien Krillin who had a mid-ass backstory (in the anime, he actually had better motives story wise in the manga) who trained so hard and mastered Ki to the point where he could contend with MUI Goku.
I imagine he would just annoy people by starting fights, and then just activate his limitless, laughing like a cocky brat that isn’t able to do anything.
Almost what happened when Buuhan started raging with red eyes and put that barrier around him when he was screaming. Super Vegito tried punching through but it was repelling him lol.
@@exoticbomber137 unfortunately, limitless is not a barrier, any sorcerer can make one. Limitless is the manipulation over the infinite amount of space, and time in our 3D/4D space of existence. Normally Vegito could bypass Infinity with his far superior amount of ki, and speed, but Buuhan would boost that power to insane levels. That's also without Buuhan fusing his matter manipulation magic with limitless spacial manipulation.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 No the limitless just infinitely divides space basically the closer you get to him the slower you get it's not actually infinite space also he doesn't manipulate time like at all only space also buuhan's abilities are far more broken than most of gojo's abilities only one that's really good is his domain expansion other than that its pretty meh and vegito would cook him the exact same way
Here is my thing. If it's a death match Gojo always loses to anyone with instant transmission. Does he breathe air? Then blow up what ever planet they are on and leave. Or any villian blows up a planet.
@thememenoob6426 if ANY evil is in your heart it's assumedly an instant kill. It doesn't work on Goku because he's completely pure of heart (because he's too dumb to not be) so if it does hit then it would kill Gojo. I doubt RCT could fix Gojo's "heart" which is more likely his soul in this case than his actual physical heart
I bet Cell could just take his domain too. He has the perfect mind after all. He might not actually be stunned by it, and he’d definitely want to try lol
@@justinwaller9665 If his mind is affected by Infinite Void then he's practically rendered comatose while standing. Without being to manipulate his ki (via being affected by IV) he wouldn't be able to tank it at all and would die via that Hollow Purple
@@Ilym21 no he beats radix he’s not fast enough, he’s MFTL at best, he stops at vegeta, bc vegeta would jus blow the planet up, they realistically cannot bypass inf until buu saga but the other antagonists would blow the planet up and gojo wouldn’t have a way to hurt them, the only ways to pass inf is to have inf speed, be able to rip through space, or have your move spawn on gojo, (so like kamui from Naruto) raditz has none of these.
Yeah. It’s hilarious how a character like Tien during the Imperfect Cell arc was strong enough to blast solar systems in theory. His power is well over a dozen times enough to destroy earth.
Naruto verse? No, too much hax. Krillin's dumbass would walk into kamui or Issihki would shrink into his ear and possess his body. Orochimaru would purposely take a punch in order to put a curse mark on Krillin. Lets be honest here, Krillin is much stronger than the Narutoverse, but hax overcomes pure power.
No not really if you payed attention to the scene Frieza shot a tiny spark of light into krillin's body then was able to control him. That little spark of light would need to traverse an infinite distance so no that attack Frieza did would not bypass infinity
Doesn't surprise me that the indomitable Mr. Satan wasn't included in your puny little contest. There's no domain powerful enough to contain the champ. ✌️
Gojo is cool and all, but modern anime watchers think any cool character with a fancy power that happens to make them the top dog of their own anime equals soloing any other verse. The DB verse is one of the strongest in the anime verse
Tbf I feel like people also Overplay older anime, and seem to think even the weakest of characters can apparently eliminate the strongest from other verses. I'm a HUGE DB fan, but do think some of the comments saying stuff like "The Farmer from DBZ couldd beat Gojo lol" it gets kind of goofy lol.
Would stop around early Dragon Ball if Gojo is bound to the rules of power in Dragon ball. If he isn't, he still does not have the destructive power or feats to be able to beat late Saiyan-arc Vegeta or Goku.
"In a hypothetical where Gojo is actually in the series since the beginning-" I thought you were starting a what if i was gonna cry, made me think I swapped videos 😭
@@PankitoEmiya no he doesn't or he would've used it much more during his fights. Either it takes concentration or not good for battle since he barely ever uses it in combat against stronger opponents like Toji or Sukana. It also seems he needs to do a hand sign to do it. It also seems like he has a range limit of a few meters since he does it by removing the space between himself and the spot so he has a limit and the longer the distance the longer it takes and it probably only reaches a certain limit
@GetCaughtLacking bro 💀 Against toji, he literally came back from the brink of dwath by unlocking rct He even unlocks red and purple from rct And against sukuna, he was abusing the hell out of rct The only reason he didn't use it more was because he was using rct on his cursed technique, and he took brain damage from that.
Here's another question though, would Guildos, Friezas, and cells Telekinetic abilities just bypass infinity? Because if we look at how Frieza killed Krillin it looked like he blew him up from the inside out rather than attacking him externally.
You have a good point. Also, I think we have some considerations for Ki attacks that have no travel time. Would those attacks bypass infinity?? Since they will just happen. Like Vegeta's finger explosion or Goku's "eyes punch". They might be weak by DBZ standards, but for a weaker character they could be fatal.
@@georgekatkus5162 basically limitless can filter out anything that Gojo wants, but if it's a tricky like a destructive air attack Gojo has to be able to perceive it as an attack first, which his six eyes would probably be able to do. The only problem though would also fall in perception, because if it's too fast Gojo wouldn't be able to perceive the air attack. Tldr, Gojo needs air, but if the air is used to attack him he has to perceive it first to filter it with infinity.
@@georgekatkus5162 yes, gojo just filters things that he wants to get in, like sunlight oxygen etc that he needs to survive and he can change those parameters. by default if limitless is active there is basically an infinite space to cover to reach gojo, so nothing should be able to go through, he basically brings the concept of infinity in real life.
Gojo actually more than likely loses against Roshi immediately considering that infinity doesn’t filter out sound based attacks, the sleepy boy technique is a voice activated hypnosis
If we got into more fanfiction-y shenanigans when applying characterization/story implementation, then considering how often characters are called fighting geniuses or explain the weaknesses of abilities/techniques even Gojo would get a massive power amp while the other rip him off like they did Tien
So in a funny way, if the story leans on DB, then Roshi could use Gojo as an example of a “conceited” strongest or leaving things up to him after reading his mind upon breaching Infinity
I know infinity is carrying gojo a lot here but let's be honest. He's not going past vegeta or frieza. Both of them would get annoyed so much that they'll just blow up the whole planet if Gojo keeps pestering them. Vegeta: "Get out of here you worm" Gojo: "Anything you do can't go past infinity see?" *Gojo flexes infinity while laughing* Vegeta: "Why you! Grr. Well then, I'll take the planet with you! Earth splitting galick gun" Gojo: "Nah I'd win" (He infact did not win)
@@TameGoddess Hes a human in a alien world, he doesnt have the potential to back up the power gain... hell be Krillin level maybe but he definitely wont train that much.
Don't forget Jiren had a shield around him similar to Gojo's, if we consider how much stronger Jiren is than him, and how his shield was broken by fast and strong enough attacks, it means someone with a power relative to Gojo and fast enough attacks would get trough infinity, a few characters also managed to get around Hit's time-skip, another time altering technique. Sorry for Gojo but his stopping point would be Roshi, or at best King Piccolo.
A shield Is not exactly the same to infinite, but i see your point, though nope, he Will be able to pass king Piccolo, seeing his attacks at best were at sonic speeds, but he probably won't be able to kill him
no, gojo's ability isn't a shield even though it shields him from whatever he choose not to come near him. gojo brings the concept of infinity to the real world. any attack after crossing a certain area will start slowing down since the closer they get to gojo the more distance they need to travel, going from a lot of distance up to infinite distance, which is why it appears things have stopped after they get to a certain point. the only ways to go through infinity is with something that cancels/disregards his cursed technique, like domain amplification or special cursed tools or some sort of hax that disregards the concept of space, like the world cleave or like lille barros ability from bleach.
15:30 It can, teleport into somebody, you can teleport already touching your target, so his power would not work because how you will repel, something that is already there, with this they can put a ki atack on their hands, teleport to Gojo Sholder and Blow up him
You'd have to be able to teleport over an infinite distance then, Goku's instant transmission has explicit limits, it can only teleport Goku as far as he can sense Ki, if he can sense ki over an infinite distance, then he could probably do that, but Goku's limits have been made somewhat clear when it comes to IT, he can't teleport over an infinite distance. That idea could work with the kaikai though, if it functions differently to instant transmission, I'm not sure how that one works.
@@NotMadaraaa For example lets start with a simple question, does Picollo have a way to get throught Gojos Infinity. If not its auto win for Gojo or in worst case for Gojo a stalemate
Dickriding Gojo a little bit too much, bro has no chance even against saiyan saga. Vegeta known to be stronger as a child than his father who was capable of destroying planets with a wave of his hands
@@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 It’s canon to the manga? And even if it wasn’t canon I could simply use the Goku from non canon dbz and he’d still shit on Gojo so don’t think it really matters bud 😂
Didn't picollo blow up the moon in the first episodes ? So he surely can blow up earth because it wasn't even hard for him. So Gojo loses already in episode 1
A funny April fools day style what if would be Ojog, he does basically the opposite, with a color palate of yellow, orange, and green. It would be crazy to see reverse Gojo vs Gojo lol
For your Cell Prime series you should have Cell travel to the JJK verse during gojo and sukunas fight. Ik cell would just destroy everyone but he would definitely be interested in their abilities
KO hope you do this kind of video with Medaka from Medaka Box, Ilulu and Tohru from the Dragon Maid anime, Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakosho, Sasuke Uchihia, and Batman and his Hellbat suit.
Isn't Medaka box the manga where the characters literally not only break the 4 wall but use it like a toy Like can't All-Fiction literally erase concepts and the main characters Also have countless other hax including the ability to just flat out say no to death or even complete existence erasure. Like I'm pretty sure that they have more hax than every other main character in anime combined... Even if they don't have physical strength they don't need it because they could just erase the concept of physical strength and completely rewrite the story to benefit them... Like I'm pretty sure Medaka box is supposed to be even more insane than a gag Manga with it's hax I doubt it'd be a conversation at all... I don't even know that much about it and I absolutely love dragon ball but even I know that there's no competition
@@Rafael-w4j Bro Gojo can't do anything against nappa he is a star level character and Gojo is just a city level. Learn power scaling first then comment
Wait didn’t they say Gojo infinity just slows things down the closer they get to him? In the case of jjk it makes sense limitless is so strong, but given how absurdly fast dragon ball characters can be, how much would infinity actually slow them?
Characters with infinite speed should be able to penetrate it through sheer speed over some finite amount of time, and there are actually plenty of those in fiction and even just in anime. Or if you want even faster you can pick chars with immeasurable speed, such as Bernkastel and other Umineko characters, who could easily not only penetrate Infinity instantly, but also just go back in time through sheer speed and kill Gojo before he mastered limitless or even prevent his birth lol.
@@rylace I feel like you don't understand infinity, it isn't a finite distance or something that is able to be passed in a finite amount of time. Having infinite speeds means nothing because it is infinitely dividing distance and infinitely slowing things down.
@@kame8084 "In fiction" Anyone who can affect space time can Sukuna himself did it lmao God goku was affecting macrocosm a 5d structure which has heaven transcending space time lmao Goku punches would destroy infinity which is a 3d construct Heck even gotenks screaming would get pass gojo
@@Ogg_shH35367 also you might notice with I said fast enough, specifically talking about speed. Maybe read what I said instead of subjecting me to your misinformed yapp sesh?
Gojo's entire personality and mentally literally goes against dragon ball since from birth was literally the strongest on the planet but in dragon ball while he's potentially the strongest human still just pure talent. Several other alien race are stronger and he would have to adjust to the fact that he isn't the best and has to work hard for his strength but if he dose he could potentially become one of the strongest Drago ball charters in the verse
It mostly depends on how hard you wank hollow purple if you say it can atomize things no matter how strong they are(If it can land) then he stops at like super when people start resisting Hakai.(in terms of being able to do damage) everything else is basically him being blitzed and destroyed and even if you wank purple to that level at that point people are just too fast for it to land at all.
@@NotMadaraaa yeah I know just going with the video just going hard if the what if. It’s pretty clear that purple doesn’t just erases things like many fans like to say.
You forgot one character in the Red Ribbon Saga that can DEFINITELY break through infinity like it wasn't there and even tank the domain with zero effect. Arale really is Dragonball scalings chaotic wildcard.
tbh id say that gojo is more like mountain level with hollow purple given the destruction it causes against hanami or he could just use blue which could also potentially destroy a mountain im just implying this could be possible from his previous fights
I think if Gojo existed in the DB universe, Cell would be able to have his powers. Why? Gero's drones got DNA samples from almost everyone, which they would be able to get because Gojo won't always be using Infinite. Then when Cell comes around, he'd not only have everyone else's techniques and powers, he'd have Gojo's Domain and other abilities. Cell would be unstoppable here with all his DNA sources and Gojo's Domain.
💀 DNA has nothing to do with JJK techniques and domains, also there's only one active user of the six eyes. You are applying DBZ logic that doesn't make sense in the JJK way, JJK bases 90% of his power system in emotions, buddhist stories and japanese culture, DNA have 0 incommon with the soul in any way, having Cell with a % of Gojo's DNA wouldn't make him a sorcerer and much less would make it so Cell could have the six eyes nor limitless. Even if Cell had Toji's DNA, the heavenly restriction wouldn't transfer because it's applied to the soul and it doesn't change the DNA by itself. 👍
@@yeikelamores6085 As long as they are in Gojo's hands, yes, you are right. But give them to someone much more powerful and they will become far, far more devastating. Look at how Sukuna used Megumi's abilities as an example.
there is a point to be made for ki barriers acting similarly to domains as domains expansions are just a barriers filled with the user's cursed energy/technique so they might be able to counter the sure hit affect that way same with infinity
Something to think about though. since Infinity only slow attacks down, it can't push things around, doesn't that mean that any ki attack that can cover his body is essentially a win? (attack that are already stronger than purple) Since the Ki would envelop Gojo, and although it wouldn't hit him, he wouldn't be able to move aswell, since it would require him to 'remove' the Ki out of his way, and going through it isn't feasible. He can't just push a moon destroying level attack like he did with knives or someone weaker than him. Teoretically, the attack would indefinitely be slowed down until Gojo released it (and died), and since it's being infinitely slowed, it wouldn't dissipate by itself either.
Actually in a way, infinity does push back on things to prevent them from reaching Gojo, you can see this with how he kills Hanami, by crushing it with infinity up against a wall.
@@bsdSmokey I mean, weaker in what way? In general yeah, but Hanami's durability and physical strength is leaps and bounds beyond Gojo's, he just has the hax and abilities to beat them.
@@bsdSmokey His infinity definitely can push people away in the sense that it won't let them get within a certain distance and so if he moves towards them, it has a repelling effect.
It’s funny how quickly this becomes finding the limits of “limitless”, because against more conventional attacks it remains useful even into Super and beyond.
No it doesnt. If Gojos limitless was as strong as its depicted, he wouldnt be struggling with anyone or anything. Comparing the strongest in JJK to the strongest in DBZ is like dropped a 5 pound rock on a wet paper towel and expecting the paper towel to able to hold the rock. Limitless is bypassed by sheer speed and power. JJK characters just simply cant reach those levels, so it makes limitless look unbeatable.
@@TheFellHeart limitless has never been beaten by sheer power and it hasn’t been beaten by speed,we just know you have to have above infinite speed to surpass it
@@BrayBray-sw2yy I honestly have no idea where he got the power part. i'm assuming he doesn't Know World Cleave or Mahoraga cutting Gojo wasn't about power but literally just a hax of cutting space itself. which don't get me wrong. DBZ buu saga and above to super can do something like yeet space itself. But alot of characters would legit not be able to get passed infinite as its also automated. therefore would infact block light speed characters that do not surpass Time itself. And i'm a dragonball fan.
@@BrayBray-sw2yyLimitless doesn't need infinite speed to bypass, as Gojo's set speed isn't infinite. He can't see things at infinite speed, so all you need to do, is be faster than he can see.
This is cool and all but Gojo Truly stops at tournament arc, piccolo has a laser attack that dodged face front of him, this alone puts him at lightspeed, and limitless is not stopping light speed.
Says who? Limitless is the constant and infinite division of anything approaching Gojo, over and over again infinitely, no matter how fast you're going, unless you're legitimately infinite speed you can't bypass infinity that way. Unless you can travel a finite distance infinitely, or an infinite distance in a finite amount of time, you can't bypass infinity through sheer speed, and no teleportation doesn't count.
@@WestGarbage6 im pretty sure FTL and MFTL counts for infinite speed, simply because you cannot go above lightspeed, going above lightspeed is an unnatainable level of speed, which is essentially infinite speed
Technically, from the perspective of any photon, the very moment that it was born is also the moment that it dies. No time passes for it. It's going at the maximum possible speed that the universe permits, too. I think that would make it work in interesting ways with Limitless.
@@hm9934wrong. headcannon bs. light as a finite speed. even light doesn’t go past light speed. it is the fastest thing ever. yet it is measured. it’s finite. not infinite. stop trying to use ftl speeds to counter infinity so you can say gojo is fodder we know he’s fodder but stop ignoring the hax. his infinity works for 90% of the db cast. the only reason why he’d lose is that they can blow up the planet he’s on and he can’t survive in fucking space
@@Fadayo The perception of time of the thing being affected by limitless is never implied or suggested to matter nor does it make sense to. Also it traveling at what is essentially the max speed of our irl universe doesn't change the fact it's still only traveling at a finite level of speed and therefore would not just speed its way through infinity. Also you're misapplying irl physics anyways. Most fictional verses simply can't use our irl physics because they blatantly violate it, including Dragonball. You can maybe apply certain aspects, but using the speed limit of light and the universe simply doesn't make sense because if it applied to DB then none of its characters would be FTL in the first place, and yet many of them are, without that automatically giving them time travel.
Wait...Infinity slows things down by dividing the distance between it and him infinitely, right? Can't the power pole stretch infinitely? What would happen if Goku tried to stretch his Power Pole to poke Gojo? What's infinity divided by infinity?
The thing about Domain expansion is that the second Gojo finishes the incantation, the auto hit attack is IMMEDIATELY put into affect regardless of whether the barrier has fully enclosed or not. It’s actually shown in the Shibuya incident when he fights the disaster curses.
Hollow purple version of Kamehameha plus kaioken with positive cursed energy constantly healing Gojo's body so he can take it all the way to kaioken times 60 something.
@@zelect5452 Gojo with RCT healing could probably survive past 100x easily, he'd essentially have super saiyan forms as a human, along with his other abilities. Now that I think about it, why don't the others ask Goku to teach them the kaioken? If Krillin in his base form can take on Goku in SSB, imagine what he could do if he had a 50x kaioken or something, pretty much super saiyan.
@@WestGarbage6 Because that would make too sense. Really, a lot of the human fighters could be a lot stronger if they just used the resources available to them, like the aforementioned kaioken, or the fusion technique. Or the dragon balls, you know, the seven mystical artifacts that summon a magical wish granting dragon.
but then something not many people notice the stronger the opponent is compared to yourself/your domain the less the sure hit effect works on them for example of this gojo's .2 domain in shibuya it sent regular people into a coma-like state for 2 weeks but the extremely strong disaster curses ony had the effects for a couple minutes and sukuna's domain usually slashes everything to nothing in a couple seconds but due to gojo's relativity and or blatant strength, it only made shallow slashes on him so around in dbz, the domain wouldn't even effect them for a certain amount of time
Nice video but imo in the Namek saga, gojo would get demolished by goku, frieza, and vegeta with raw speed bc they have infinite speed scales in just base. This is after goku and vegeta got zenkais btw.
If you’re referring to the “Goku flew around Namek in an instant” feat, it’s pretty massive wank and it’s contradicted by a multitude of things supporting Goku being a finite speed (including Goku stating in that scene that everyone’s nearby, and plenty of finite speed “anti-feats” throughout the rest of Z), so it wasn’t worth including here. If we wanted to wank though, then yea 🗿
@@TheSaladBar nah its a different scale, the universe has statements of being infinite in size a few times in the daizenshuu, and frieza has many statements of being able to destroy it. This would mean that frieza is a high universal (and the statements were in reference to 2nd form frieza who has a power lvl of 1 million), meaning that anyone above that (base vegeta and goku post zenkai) are also at that lvl. Being that their attacks can destroy infinite constucts, their attacks should also be able to bypass infinity. This is also supported by the fact that the spirit bomb which gathers energy from the entire universe (which again is infinite) should also have infinite energy which frieza tanked. Just their attack potency is enough. If you wanna go into speed, vegeta states that power and speed grow together (with some characters like burter and dyspo specializing in certain stats), but this doesn't change the fact that a relation exists between the 2. We know that this proportion is indeed finite because around the time that characters still had finite power, their speed was also finite. This would mean that if a character's power is infinite, their level of speed should also be infinite. This is even more supported by the fact that toriyama states that in later sagas (in reference to the namek saga), super saiyan multipliers cant be numerically measured, which is just more implication that characters of this tier are above infinite. There are also other statements and feats such as cell having infinite power, goku being able to run across hell which is infinite, etc.
Honestly I’m not looking to get into a discussion about why this is wank since it’s a bit off-topic (and a bit subjective), just explaining why I didn’t include the wank in the video. As for the anti-feats, they’re not necessarily “anti-feats” in the sense that the characters are slow, just multiple examples of characters doing things at a finite speed which contradicts the idea that they’re infinite speed. Perfect example: Kid Buu taking time to destroy hundreds of planets in a galaxy. Kid Buu is completely uninhibited, yet he took a finite amount of time to destroy it. Theres a couple of other examples (including up to the Granolah arc, such as Gas taking time to cross a finite amount of the universe) but I plan on making a vid about it anyway.
But yea like I said, I know the arguments for the scaling but consider it wank and not objective, so I don’t feel the need to debate something I agree with in a way🗿
Guldo can just kill him, Technically guldo can bypass infinity cause infinity slow downs time around him and guldo moves at stopped time a feat greater than slow down.
Without bullshit jjk scaling he just loses to any character stronger or equal to tenkiachi roshi who is a moon buster at least but idk how fast he is so he could still lose I’m just assuming he is around light speed so should just be able to run out of domain before it expands since it’s show the expansion actually takes time in the manga and anime although small
@@seanbrown7083 he literal fought goku who dodged a light speed attack so yes he can fight at light speed. in dragon ball all your stats go up the same amount if its not focused so if you can box a character that can dodge light speed attacks you arfe light speed
@@seanbrown7083 then gojo doesn't have LS reaction speed. At best he has lighting reaction speed. Sukana aim dodged kashimo's attack since he saw his hand in his face.
@@TheGamingShogun that is true but I can’t blame ppl for saying the JJK verse is LS cuz electromagnetic waves ARE light speed and kashimo CT uses EMW so u get what I’m saying right? 🤷🏽♂️
Bro, He'd be the tone kid who spans his abilities in combat games despite he's low level and can't hurt you at around the saiyan saga. Vegeta: "DUDE UR NOT GONNA HURT US STOP SPAMMING!" Nappa: "yeah can you stop orsomething?" Goku:"Wow you seem pretty *ANNOYING!* "
Silly thing, but you talking about Gojo being in the story since the beginning made me start to think about a story just like those some youtubers write, were it's like "what if Goku went to namek instead of earth" or something like that. What if Gojo was born in DBZ, and was allowed to get stronger just like them? Just a funny thought. It would be cool to see a human, maybe, reaching the levels of the characters on Super.
Nah bro i dont think he beats teen goku bc he can be scaled to solar system level bc goku teen is planetry is db but u have to remember that dr slump and db are the same world and the earth in dr slump is 900 times bigger than our sun and since the moon is half the size of the earth this makes the moon 450 times bigger than the sun and full power roshi destroyed it
What I hate about everyone say that “they can’t touch gojo” is the fact that they throw application speed completely out the door. Example, if limitless can apply fast enough that it stops someone so fast that gojo can’t even perceive them (shown by everyone beyond raditz) then what dictates the application speed if it’s not gojo? If it’s dictated on its own, then infinity EXTENSION should mean instant death and he wouldn’t need blue, red, or purple anyway since it’s pointless waste of energy. Since it doesn’t work that way, that mean it’s dictated by gojo and lots of things would EASILY bypass it. Air reaches him so just the shockwave of anyone’s attack should kill by the time they reach nappa (being like 3 arcs of generous here). Not to mean the attacks that are send within others. Think of frieza killing krillin. Everyone there already knew what was going on and told frieza to stop. It’s a simple technique to them but likely only on MUCH weaker enemies. Like gojo compared to Raditz at best.
the neutral version of limitless is always active since he learned rct in the flashback arc. gojo has white listed things to pass through infinity based on what is harmful or harmless to him. neutral limitless works by making things traveling to gojo have to cross more and more distance the closer they get to him, up to the point where u would have to cross infinite distance to get to him (which is impossible). the shockwave would def not reach gojo but something that disregards the concept of space will, maybe something like frieza's telekinesis if that ability doesn't require frieza's ki to touch gojo and just uses his mind to do it.
Gojo's six eyes give him superhuman perception, and processing abilities, his limitless automatically filters out threats from other things, which is why air, light, and sound can pass through freely even when it's constantly active.
You’re thinking of this in the wrong context. This isn’t physical strength it’s cursed energy. It takes Gojo no effort to infinity regular ass punches and kicks Ki blasts are a different story, but I think Kamehamehas from the peanut gallery can be easily avoided
You literally just made this up lmao. Go back and reread the fight and try to find me where he says this, he doesn't. Bro is actually spreading misinformation to be quirky. There is never any implication or suggestion (in that fight or anywhere else in the manga) whatsoever that neutral limitless drains more CE if it has to block stronger things, or that it drains a significant amount of CE in general. Gojo passively generates enough CE to use limitless indefinitely, he only runs into stamina issues if he spams domains and strong attacks and rct, and even then it just lowers his output but his neutral limitless never goes down and wouldn't because it's energy drain is just too low to be significant.
Speaking of dimensional stuff, one pre-Super character comes to mind that can defeat Gojo’s Infinity: Janemba. His abilities affect reality and his sword can cut through dimensions. It’s possible that he could cut through Gojo and Infinity in the same way Sukuna did.
Gojo has ftl speed feats in the manga and could be wanked to planetary at the highest but as soon as he gets to characters with infinite speed it’s over
Are you really trying to imply that Gojo makes it farther than the vid suggests due to this "assumption" (not really an assumption they straight up would know to dodge 😭)
@@googoongga You don’t dodge a domain. You have to know how domains work in regards to space and know there is an invisible wall somewhere you have to break. So yeah, they probably wouldn’t know the highly specific way to break out of a domain.
In Dragonball, it's very consistent that if you have enough of a power difference between a fighter with hax and raw strength, the raw strength can just plow through the hax. What likely happens is characters just power through Gojo's infinity and kill him easily because of this.
well in jjk it doesn't work that way so why should we go with the dragonball rule, which as far as i remember is a retcon from super and only used once if i'm not mistaken.
Not even close, there's maybe a few instances of this ever, the situation with Hit in the 6th and 7th universe tournament is a mistranslation, Goku never moved through time or broke through time or anything like that, he just learned how to anticipate Hit's movements. Even then, plowing through infinity isn't possible, unless you're moving at infinite speed, there's nothing to "plow through" it'd be like trying to destroy air by flying through it, infinity is a distance that infinitely slows you down, there's no wall they can hit to break it, it's not a barrier or a wall.
Dragon Ball rules allow characters to just ignore hax when your ki is stronger than the opponent by enough, like Jiren just ignoring Time Skip.
More like retconned rules lol considering Gohan, Krillin and Vegeta where all stornger then Guldo but couldn't stop his own Time Stop.
@@mysteryman9488 That just means Guldo's time stop was stronger than Hit's Time Skip!
But yeah, Toriyama kinda is just arbitrary about things sometimes. Actually, you might have a point: the "ignore hax" tier doesn't really start to show up until the Android saga, when Kienzan stops being able to cut through anything and everything.
@@Theycallmetomu It doesn't show up there either since the scene where Cell tanks the kienzan is anime only filler. So yeah this "DBZ characters can bypass haxs if they are strong enough" is just a Super retcon like many other things.
@@mysteryman9488 I would like to introduce you to Candy Vegito.
@@Theycallmetomu ...bro. If Vegito could bypass Buu's hax cus he's so strong. Wouldn't the candy beam thing not even work?
Saiyan Saga Vegeta would legit just blow up the planet if he couldn't touch Gojo.
The moment he throws a ki spit ball gojos fried literaly
@@saidumnubaj It wouldn't touch gojo tbf
And ends himself in the process because he can’t breathe in space
@@Wu_bandz no he would have his space pod.
He literally did this before going to earth. Blew up a planet with 2 fingers and just got inside his space pod.
And even if didn't, Saiyan Saga Vegeta would 100% not care
@@yspy_1801anything faster than light surpasses Gojos infinity.
The idea of gotenks shouting at gojo and making him pop is hilarious
Lmfao
Frieza would kill gojo the same way he killed krillin, ripped apart by telekinesis. Honesty Guldo or even sayin saga chaotzu could probably do it too
That’s actually a good point that telekinesis like Blue, Chiaotzu, or Piccolo could get through it to at least stun him. A better way for Frieza to kill him too than planetary destruction🗿
@@TheSaladBarevery time I see a power scale of making these dumb videos you have Gojo putting up against Goku you end up having to lose because why people go with the popular opinion cuz they're biased and they don't really think for themselves Goku cannot even Master Ultra Instinct yet can't even surpass beerus got one shot it out of that form as a technique not actually a form by black Frieza granola the heaters gas Morrow and not stronger than beerus what is the point of this video you know Gojo's going to win
@@TheSaladBaryou don't know what you're talking about if you not read the Manga and watch the anime you will understand how his powers work but now the mention you're a Dragon Ball channel so be my case you're going to be biased and you're going to have a Dragon Ball character win anyway I already know the outcome before you even made the damn video what difference does it make so what he doesn't matter Gojo can just use domain expansion Just Kill Them All
@@TheSaladBarno just be honest there's no one in Dragon Ball I cannot resist that domain expansion no fucking body
💀💀💀💀
I just like to imagine after the Saiyan saga everyone would be like ‘oh my god can you FUCK OFF’ to this one guy just stopping time basically and not being able to even scratch them
Really puts things into perspective. In JJK all the magic seems really unique and interesting but take them out of that box and everyone becomes a one-trick pony. DB gets criticized for having all the fights feel the same but there is really much more variety than people give it credit for.
@@santaclaus1365 in db if goku does smthg new like attracting ennemies with ki we'll be like ok he can do that , maybe he could do that since namek saga. In jjk a new technique is something crazy because characters can only get so strong or so fast which make abilities much more important.
@@santaclaus1365 Well, that’s because the CT and CE/PE works on very limited ways depending on the type of CT and the user’s experience, creativity and mastery, on the other hand Ki can basically do pretty much anything
@@qin9150Ki is so fucking versatile it's insane, what still blows my mind is the fact that anyone in Dragonball has essentially limitless potential due to ki.
Jiren is just a buff alien Krillin who had a mid-ass backstory (in the anime, he actually had better motives story wise in the manga) who trained so hard and mastered Ki to the point where he could contend with MUI Goku.
I imagine he would just annoy people by starting fights, and then just activate his limitless, laughing like a cocky brat that isn’t able to do anything.
Buuhan with limitless, that’s terrifying.
Almost what happened when Buuhan started raging with red eyes and put that barrier around him when he was screaming. Super Vegito tried punching through but it was repelling him lol.
@@exoticbomber137 unfortunately, limitless is not a barrier, any sorcerer can make one. Limitless is the manipulation over the infinite amount of space, and time in our 3D/4D space of existence. Normally Vegito could bypass Infinity with his far superior amount of ki, and speed, but Buuhan would boost that power to insane levels. That's also without Buuhan fusing his matter manipulation magic with limitless spacial manipulation.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 No the limitless just infinitely divides space basically the closer you get to him the slower you get it's not actually infinite space also he doesn't manipulate time like at all only space also buuhan's abilities are far more broken than most of gojo's abilities only one that's really good is his domain expansion other than that its pretty meh and vegito would cook him the exact same way
@@SoldierboyOP yeah, and now he would be able to do that, with limitless instead of a barrier.
Here is my thing. If it's a death match Gojo always loses to anyone with instant transmission.
Does he breathe air? Then blow up what ever planet they are on and leave. Or any villian blows up a planet.
Spike the Devil Man solos Gojo ngl.
I mean could the beam work on him? That would be he’s got evil inside him.
@@thememenoob6426 he definitely cannot ride the nimbus, so maybe
@thememenoob6426 if ANY evil is in your heart it's assumedly an instant kill. It doesn't work on Goku because he's completely pure of heart (because he's too dumb to not be) so if it does hit then it would kill Gojo. I doubt RCT could fix Gojo's "heart" which is more likely his soul in this case than his actual physical heart
Nah monster carrot solos even before then.
Spike solos most verses if he can actually hit them
I bet Cell could just take his domain too. He has the perfect mind after all. He might not actually be stunned by it, and he’d definitely want to try lol
'Perfect' mind, nice pun
Literally Bio Android
nah bro imagine if Cell decides to take it head on but then gets stunned and annihilated off the face of the earth by Hollow Purple
@@dominocut2963 bold of you to assume that hollow purple would even scratch cell that took a full Kamehameha to the face and regenerated 🤣🤣
@@justinwaller9665 If his mind is affected by Infinite Void then he's practically rendered comatose while standing. Without being to manipulate his ki (via being affected by IV) he wouldn't be able to tank it at all and would die via that Hollow Purple
a single saibaman solos the entire jjk verse
WE GOT A REAL ONE HERE!!!! 💯💯💯🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥‼‼‼
I mean... you are not wrong... if it hits even sukuna would die instantly.
Mahito, yuki, kenjaku could win against a saibaman
@@crissanti8206 yes, but if the self-destruction hits its over.
maybe not mahito though since you need to attack his soul.
@@caioroman2379 if mahito's atomized he can't reshape his body to his soul
He’s not getting passed Demon king piccolo💀
he's not getting past tao pai pai, he would just throw a pillar at him or something
@@3_14piethey don’t pass his infinity, he goes to raditz then vegeta blows the planet up when he realizes he can’t hit him
@@QuHa07he gets to raditz and gets vaporized as he is fast enough to go through inf
@@Ilym21 no he beats radix he’s not fast enough, he’s MFTL at best, he stops at vegeta, bc vegeta would jus blow the planet up, they realistically cannot bypass inf until buu saga but the other antagonists would blow the planet up and gojo wouldn’t have a way to hurt them, the only ways to pass inf is to have inf speed, be able to rip through space, or have your move spawn on gojo, (so like kamui from Naruto) raditz has none of these.
@@QuHa07who told you that you need inf speed to get through inf. Sounds like you pulled that out ur ass
Bro goku literally transmitted right into bojacks face 😂
And goku and cooler did it like a million times in the metal cooler movie
Krillin solos the verse, but it's not a thing against JJK, Krillin can solo One Piece and Naruto verses too.
Yeah. It’s hilarious how a character like Tien during the Imperfect Cell arc was strong enough to blast solar systems in theory. His power is well over a dozen times enough to destroy earth.
Classic z krillan is soloing
Naruto verse? No, too much hax.
Krillin's dumbass would walk into kamui or Issihki would shrink into his ear and possess his body. Orochimaru would purposely take a punch in order to put a curse mark on Krillin.
Lets be honest here, Krillin is much stronger than the Narutoverse, but hax overcomes pure power.
ok, hypothetical. What does the naruto verse do when he blows up earth @@CristanioPeweyyy
@@GoldTwastaken Obito, Sasuke, Naruto, Boruto, and the other homies just kamui to a different world lmao.
They won't be able to return to Earth lol.
Freeza should be able to get around infinity with the move he used to kill Krillen
I mean, telekinesis is the hardest counter to infinity.
W pfp
Vegeta destroying Earth and leaving: 🗿
No not really if you payed attention to the scene Frieza shot a tiny spark of light into krillin's body then was able to control him. That little spark of light would need to traverse an infinite distance so no that attack Frieza did would not bypass infinity
@@thelurker552he can do it without that he has shown this in the series.
Krillin and jackie chun had a whole exchange in 0.2 seconds sad you didnt add that.
Also, the light speed feat where Goku grabbed Roshi's sunglasses before Solar Flare could hit him.
Doesn't surprise me that the indomitable Mr. Satan wasn't included in your puny little contest. There's no domain powerful enough to contain the champ. ✌️
He even killed lord beebus, truly a godlike character
@@Granolahsolos Oh that story he made up, beerus looked like a bat🤣🤣
Gojo is cool and all, but modern anime watchers think any cool character with a fancy power that happens to make them the top dog of their own anime equals soloing any other verse.
The DB verse is one of the strongest in the anime verse
I just return from solo leveling channel and the jinwoo glazing is crazy man😭
@@hanzo-qo4hfNo surprise there
Tbf I feel like people also Overplay older anime, and seem to think even the weakest of characters can apparently eliminate the strongest from other verses.
I'm a HUGE DB fan, but do think some of the comments saying stuff like "The Farmer from DBZ couldd beat Gojo lol" it gets kind of goofy lol.
@@null7198so you cant take a joke?
@@meloni2198 Nah I mean if they're joking I get that, I just also know from experience not everyone is lol.
Would stop around early Dragon Ball if Gojo is bound to the rules of power in Dragon ball. If he isn't, he still does not have the destructive power or feats to be able to beat late Saiyan-arc Vegeta or Goku.
Not to mention they are FTL in that saga too so any attack gojo throws is just weaved
Yamacha would body him lmao@@seanbrown7083
Nobody is claiming he beats them. Just that certain characters cannot touch him.
I mean, Frieza can use telekinesis and just blow Gojo up from the inside like he did with Krillin couldn't he?
yea I thought the same thing
The entire video is basically saying that gojo loses at the start of z 😂
As if should be tbh. It got crazy by saiyan saga
Is this the salad saiyan?
*Yes*
No, This is Patrick
Yeah
"In a hypothetical where Gojo is actually in the series since the beginning-"
I thought you were starting a what if i was gonna cry, made me think I swapped videos 😭
shit me too, thought i had accidentally clicked into an insane what if that somehow buffs gojo to beerus level
Gojo stops the moment people start blowing up planets and moving at light speed
I’m saying 😭 DE isn’t even a win con either as the fastest it can go is 0.2 seconds
even before that. even guys like kid goku and master roshi are already FTL and moon buster+ and arguably planetary off piccolo's feat
Also gojo has instant teleportation so you could factor that into speed
@@PankitoEmiya no he doesn't or he would've used it much more during his fights. Either it takes concentration or not good for battle since he barely ever uses it in combat against stronger opponents like Toji or Sukana. It also seems he needs to do a hand sign to do it. It also seems like he has a range limit of a few meters since he does it by removing the space between himself and the spot so he has a limit and the longer the distance the longer it takes and it probably only reaches a certain limit
@GetCaughtLacking bro 💀
Against toji, he literally came back from the brink of dwath by unlocking rct
He even unlocks red and purple from rct
And against sukuna, he was abusing the hell out of rct
The only reason he didn't use it more was because he was using rct on his cursed technique, and he took brain damage from that.
"We have ways to wank him higher" 💀
He definitely stops at Raditz as he's the first villain that would blow up the planet
Here's another question though, would Guildos, Friezas, and cells Telekinetic abilities just bypass infinity? Because if we look at how Frieza killed Krillin it looked like he blew him up from the inside out rather than attacking him externally.
You have a good point. Also, I think we have some considerations for Ki attacks that have no travel time. Would those attacks bypass infinity?? Since they will just happen. Like Vegeta's finger explosion or Goku's "eyes punch". They might be weak by DBZ standards, but for a weaker character they could be fatal.
Goku also attacked through the air, it's how he beat ChiChi that one time. Would fast air be filtered by Limitless?
@@georgekatkus5162 basically limitless can filter out anything that Gojo wants, but if it's a tricky like a destructive air attack Gojo has to be able to perceive it as an attack first, which his six eyes would probably be able to do. The only problem though would also fall in perception, because if it's too fast Gojo wouldn't be able to perceive the air attack.
Tldr, Gojo needs air, but if the air is used to attack him he has to perceive it first to filter it with infinity.
if it doesn't require frieza to get his ki on gojo and if it doesn't have to travel through space then it can be used against gojo i think
@@georgekatkus5162 yes, gojo just filters things that he wants to get in, like sunlight oxygen etc that he needs to survive and he can change those parameters. by default if limitless is active there is basically an infinite space to cover to reach gojo, so nothing should be able to go through, he basically brings the concept of infinity in real life.
Gojo actually more than likely loses against Roshi immediately considering that infinity doesn’t filter out sound based attacks, the sleepy boy technique is a voice activated hypnosis
If we got into more fanfiction-y shenanigans when applying characterization/story implementation, then considering how often characters are called fighting geniuses or explain the weaknesses of abilities/techniques even Gojo would get a massive power amp while the other rip him off like they did Tien
So in a funny way, if the story leans on DB, then Roshi could use Gojo as an example of a “conceited” strongest or leaving things up to him after reading his mind upon breaching Infinity
You know, I just realized something, couldn't Roshi just hypnotize him? Make him fall asleep and that's GG?
This was super highballed hes not making it past namek saga, and thats being generous
Episode 1 picollo kills him because he can just blow up earth and it's over
I mean he did mention three characters who can kill him and survive in the Namek saga
Frieza's telekinesis gets past his defenses.
And there is no point in denying that.
@@Emre67511why would piccolo blow up earth that's not his character
I know infinity is carrying gojo a lot here but let's be honest. He's not going past vegeta or frieza. Both of them would get annoyed so much that they'll just blow up the whole planet if Gojo keeps pestering them.
Vegeta: "Get out of here you worm"
Gojo: "Anything you do can't go past infinity see?" *Gojo flexes infinity while laughing*
Vegeta: "Why you! Grr. Well then, I'll take the planet with you! Earth splitting galick gun"
Gojo: "Nah I'd win"
(He infact did not win)
“If Yamcha took it seriously?”
“… it might be a little tough.”
“Would you lose?”
“Yah, I’d get my ass whooped.”
"I'd get Yamcha'd"
You're making me wonder about a gojo in dragon ball what if
If he grows at the same rate as dbz characters, he just negative diffs everyone until buu saga where they gain space abilities
@@TameGoddess Hes a human in a alien world, he doesnt have the potential to back up the power gain... hell be Krillin level maybe but he definitely wont train that much.
@@hankagura5355 he'd have Unlimited Void and Hollow Purple, which if you apply dbz rules to them would be basically insta kills.
@@TameGoddess Literally what logic? Let’s imply “being stronger than your opponent negates their hax and abilities” logic.
@@TameGoddessthose attacks are NOT hitting most DBZ characters 💀
Don't forget Jiren had a shield around him similar to Gojo's, if we consider how much stronger Jiren is than him, and how his shield was broken by fast and strong enough attacks, it means someone with a power relative to Gojo and fast enough attacks would get trough infinity, a few characters also managed to get around Hit's time-skip, another time altering technique.
Sorry for Gojo but his stopping point would be Roshi, or at best King Piccolo.
A shield Is not exactly the same to infinite, but i see your point, though nope, he Will be able to pass king Piccolo, seeing his attacks at best were at sonic speeds, but he probably won't be able to kill him
no, gojo's ability isn't a shield even though it shields him from whatever he choose not to come near him. gojo brings the concept of infinity to the real world. any attack after crossing a certain area will start slowing down since the closer they get to gojo the more distance they need to travel, going from a lot of distance up to infinite distance, which is why it appears things have stopped after they get to a certain point. the only ways to go through infinity is with something that cancels/disregards his cursed technique, like domain amplification or special cursed tools or some sort of hax that disregards the concept of space, like the world cleave or like lille barros ability from bleach.
Only hax can kill Gojo. Fortunately, Dragon ball has PLENTY of hax 😂
@@metalface_villain It would simply get punched through. At like early dbz
15:30 It can, teleport into somebody, you can teleport already touching your target, so his power would not work because how you will repel, something that is already there, with this they can put a ki atack on their hands, teleport to Gojo Sholder and Blow up him
You'd have to be able to teleport over an infinite distance then, Goku's instant transmission has explicit limits, it can only teleport Goku as far as he can sense Ki, if he can sense ki over an infinite distance, then he could probably do that, but Goku's limits have been made somewhat clear when it comes to IT, he can't teleport over an infinite distance.
That idea could work with the kaikai though, if it functions differently to instant transmission, I'm not sure how that one works.
@@WestGarbage6 Nope its teleportation its not traveling a distance
W vid, man the amount of immeasurable 4d arguments I hear for gojo Mann refreshing to hear some logic.
Frieza or any telekinesis user would just squeeze Gojo since TK attacks don't travel, they spawn on the target.
Nah, Frieza had to throw a little spark at Gojo, it wasn't just purely psychic.
@@WestGarbage6 only an effect added in the anime, in the manga their is no spark
Picollo destroys the moon in episode 8 without any efforts, so he could also just blow up earth. So gojo stops right at the beginnig of the series
Picollo doesnt have enought time to do so if gojo instantly activates his Domain. Dragon Ball is a really strong verse but dont underestimate Gojo
@@fynx8521 he doesnt even compare to early dbz
@@NotMadaraaaphysically he doesnt compare to early dbz yes but he massively outhaxes early dbz
@@NotMadaraaa For example lets start with a simple question, does Picollo have a way to get throught Gojos Infinity. If not its auto win for Gojo or in worst case for Gojo a stalemate
Dickriding Gojo a little bit too much, bro has no chance even against saiyan saga. Vegeta known to be stronger as a child than his father who was capable of destroying planets with a wave of his hands
Okay bro come on, that shit wasn't even canon 💀💀💀pay attention
@@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 It’s canon to the manga? And even if it wasn’t canon I could simply use the Goku from non canon dbz and he’d still shit on Gojo so don’t think it really matters bud 😂
@@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970dragon balls canon doesn’t even matter they don’t even follow it themselves
Didn't picollo blow up the moon in the first episodes ? So he surely can blow up earth because it wasn't even hard for him. So Gojo loses already in episode 1
@@Emre67511 yeah bro but there’s no point arguing with jjk, Naruto or one piece fans about db power scaling they just don’t understand it
Stops at saiyan saga anyone who can blow up a Planet can also affect space time
Nah Saiyan Saga destroy him and he only stops to the tournament 21 Saga
A funny April fools day style what if would be Ojog, he does basically the opposite, with a color palate of yellow, orange, and green. It would be crazy to see reverse Gojo vs Gojo lol
Gojo loses when people started destroying planet
By that logic roshi solos him he blew up the moon gojo is not tanking that blast
Moon isn't a planet though??
@@no.12papangkornkaewklad27he cant tank it regardless, thats the point
@@Isotolerant i know, but moon not being a planet is a common sense no? Just wanna point that out
@@Isotolerant It won't hit him regardless, that's the point
smoking on that pack if you think he gets past saiyan saga
He wouldnt even make it past king piccolo
My thoughts exactly
For your Cell Prime series you should have Cell travel to the JJK verse during gojo and sukunas fight. Ik cell would just destroy everyone but he would definitely be interested in their abilities
That won't ever happen because JJK isn't a part of Salad's What If verse.
Also I think you're on the wrong video.
KO hope you do this kind of video with Medaka from Medaka Box, Ilulu and Tohru from the Dragon Maid anime, Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakosho, Sasuke Uchihia, and Batman and his Hellbat suit.
Isn't Medaka box the manga where the characters literally not only break the 4 wall but use it like a toy
Like can't All-Fiction literally erase concepts and the main characters Also have countless other hax including the ability to just flat out say no to death or even complete existence erasure.
Like I'm pretty sure that they have more hax than every other main character in anime combined... Even if they don't have physical strength they don't need it because they could just erase the concept of physical strength and completely rewrite the story to benefit them... Like I'm pretty sure Medaka box is supposed to be even more insane than a gag Manga with it's hax
I doubt it'd be a conversation at all... I don't even know that much about it and I absolutely love dragon ball but even I know that there's no competition
Man's not getting past nappa
Cell with Gojos DNA having the six eyes and infinity is a terrifying thought.
I don't even have to watch the video to tell you he doesn't make it past Nappa 🗿
Get bro past chioutzu first 🗿
Nappa can't hit him +Infinity Void +Hollow Purple.
@@Rafael-w4j Nappa doesn't need to hit him to create a city-sized crater on the very grounds he stands.
@@Rafael-w4j Bro Gojo can't do anything against nappa he is a star level character and Gojo is just a city level. Learn power scaling first then comment
People are always complaining about Dragon Ball fans glazing Goku but in truth the glazing is very very well deserved
Gojo: *DOMAIN EXPANSION*
Cell: Di-... did you just *stop one of my hearts*
Bro thinks gojo can hurt cell avreage gojo glazer be like
Go/jo glazed he is city block level against solar system level 🤡🤡🤡
@@flakronpergjegjaj1460 the fled right over your head huh? 💀
@@unapersonanormal784 the fled right over your head huh? 💀
@@miftahuljannat3050it's also that no the,not a grammar nazi but come on man
how in tf do you only have 9 dislikes im just starting this vid but for an anime vs that is unheard of
sorry yall videos look like shit becuase of copyright
You did well even with the copyright issues Josh sama
I think it looks awesome Joshua great job!
Stop cursing its a sin
@@TheSaladBar stand proud Josh, you are strong (eyed)
@@gregkareem9824 Something funny about a person with a Dragon Ball pfp saying this. Anyway, no it isn't
Six Eyes Cell is a terrifying thought
Wait didn’t they say Gojo infinity just slows things down the closer they get to him? In the case of jjk it makes sense limitless is so strong, but given how absurdly fast dragon ball characters can be, how much would infinity actually slow them?
11:20 "noone in this arc is fast enough to penetrate through limitless" you mean noone in any arc in fiction lmao
Characters with infinite speed should be able to penetrate it through sheer speed over some finite amount of time, and there are actually plenty of those in fiction and even just in anime. Or if you want even faster you can pick chars with immeasurable speed, such as Bernkastel and other Umineko characters, who could easily not only penetrate Infinity instantly, but also just go back in time through sheer speed and kill Gojo before he mastered limitless or even prevent his birth lol.
@@rylace I feel like you don't understand infinity, it isn't a finite distance or something that is able to be passed in a finite amount of time. Having infinite speeds means nothing because it is infinitely dividing distance and infinitely slowing things down.
@@kame8084
"In fiction"
Anyone who can affect space time can
Sukuna himself did it lmao
God goku was affecting macrocosm a 5d structure which has heaven transcending space time lmao
Goku punches would destroy infinity which is a 3d construct
Heck even gotenks screaming would get pass gojo
@@Ogg_shH35367 DB power scalers just be making shit up I love it
@@Ogg_shH35367 also you might notice with I said fast enough, specifically talking about speed. Maybe read what I said instead of subjecting me to your misinformed yapp sesh?
Bloody stream in the background just has me vibin,
Lol?
Good luck to survive the encounter with Daimao.
And I mean SURVIVE.
a what if where gojo is in dragon ball could be fun since he’d learn how to use ki
Gojo's entire personality and mentally literally goes against dragon ball since from birth was literally the strongest on the planet but in dragon ball while he's potentially the strongest human still just pure talent. Several other alien race are stronger and he would have to adjust to the fact that he isn't the best and has to work hard for his strength but if he dose he could potentially become one of the strongest Drago ball charters in the verse
It mostly depends on how hard you wank hollow purple if you say it can atomize things no matter how strong they are(If it can land) then he stops at like super when people start resisting Hakai.(in terms of being able to do damage) everything else is basically him being blitzed and destroyed and even if you wank purple to that level at that point people are just too fast for it to land at all.
it does not ignore durability in its own show lmao
@@NotMadaraaa yeah I know just going with the video just going hard if the what if. It’s pretty clear that purple doesn’t just erases things like many fans like to say.
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love from the bitty gang 🫶🏾
A 18 min video about this is crazy work ngl 💀😂
You forgot one character in the Red Ribbon Saga that can DEFINITELY break through infinity like it wasn't there and even tank the domain with zero effect.
Arale really is Dragonball scalings chaotic wildcard.
Nappa is already a planet buster lmao, he'd be lucky to get past Raditz
tbh id say that gojo is more like mountain level with hollow purple given the destruction it causes against hanami or he could just use blue which could also potentially destroy a mountain im just implying this could be possible from his previous fights
nope
His journey would end at Piccolo
I think if Gojo existed in the DB universe, Cell would be able to have his powers. Why? Gero's drones got DNA samples from almost everyone, which they would be able to get because Gojo won't always be using Infinite. Then when Cell comes around, he'd not only have everyone else's techniques and powers, he'd have Gojo's Domain and other abilities. Cell would be unstoppable here with all his DNA sources and Gojo's Domain.
Yeah, if Cell had Gojo's DNA, the entire Multiverse would be at risk, including Beerus and everyone else
The same would go for if Buu absorbed him
💀 DNA has nothing to do with JJK techniques and domains, also there's only one active user of the six eyes. You are applying DBZ logic that doesn't make sense in the JJK way, JJK bases 90% of his power system in emotions, buddhist stories and japanese culture, DNA have 0 incommon with the soul in any way, having Cell with a % of Gojo's DNA wouldn't make him a sorcerer and much less would make it so Cell could have the six eyes nor limitless. Even if Cell had Toji's DNA, the heavenly restriction wouldn't transfer because it's applied to the soul and it doesn't change the DNA by itself. 👍
@@meliasnahtony2951Now, if Boo absorbed him, I can actually imagine that his abilities could get transfered to him, because he has Gojo's "soul"
@@meliasnahtony2951Gojo's abilities are nowhere near threatening the multiverse
@@yeikelamores6085 As long as they are in Gojo's hands, yes, you are right.
But give them to someone much more powerful and they will become far, far more devastating.
Look at how Sukuna used Megumi's abilities as an example.
there is a point to be made for ki barriers acting similarly to domains as domains expansions are just a barriers filled with the user's cursed energy/technique so they might be able to counter the sure hit affect that way same with infinity
Something to think about though.
since Infinity only slow attacks down, it can't push things around, doesn't that mean that any ki attack that can cover his body is essentially a win? (attack that are already stronger than purple)
Since the Ki would envelop Gojo, and although it wouldn't hit him, he wouldn't be able to move aswell, since it would require him to 'remove' the Ki out of his way, and going through it isn't feasible. He can't just push a moon destroying level attack like he did with knives or someone weaker than him.
Teoretically, the attack would indefinitely be slowed down until Gojo released it (and died), and since it's being infinitely slowed, it wouldn't dissipate by itself either.
Your omto something
Actually in a way, infinity does push back on things to prevent them from reaching Gojo, you can see this with how he kills Hanami, by crushing it with infinity up against a wall.
@@WestGarbage6 yes, but Hanami is weaker than him, I specified that it needed to be an attack stronger than him
@@bsdSmokey I mean, weaker in what way? In general yeah, but Hanami's durability and physical strength is leaps and bounds beyond Gojo's, he just has the hax and abilities to beat them.
@@bsdSmokey His infinity definitely can push people away in the sense that it won't let them get within a certain distance and so if he moves towards them, it has a repelling effect.
Taking on how Dragon Ball characters are able to destroy planets in early sagas as soon as Saiyan saga is terrifying
It’s funny how quickly this becomes finding the limits of “limitless”, because against more conventional attacks it remains useful even into Super and beyond.
No it doesnt. If Gojos limitless was as strong as its depicted, he wouldnt be struggling with anyone or anything. Comparing the strongest in JJK to the strongest in DBZ is like dropped a 5 pound rock on a wet paper towel and expecting the paper towel to able to hold the rock. Limitless is bypassed by sheer speed and power. JJK characters just simply cant reach those levels, so it makes limitless look unbeatable.
@@TheFellHeart limitless has never been beaten by sheer power and it hasn’t been beaten by speed,we just know you have to have above infinite speed to surpass it
@@BrayBray-sw2yy I honestly have no idea where he got the power part. i'm assuming he doesn't Know World Cleave or Mahoraga cutting Gojo wasn't about power but literally just a hax of cutting space itself.
which don't get me wrong. DBZ buu saga and above to super can do something like yeet space itself.
But alot of characters would legit not be able to get passed infinite as its also automated. therefore would infact block light speed characters that do not surpass Time itself.
And i'm a dragonball fan.
@@BrayBray-sw2yyLimitless doesn't need infinite speed to bypass, as Gojo's set speed isn't infinite. He can't see things at infinite speed, so all you need to do, is be faster than he can see.
@@georgekatkus5162 I didn’t say it had infinite speed,I said you need above infinite speed to straight up by pass it since it’s an infinite distance
Gojo doesn't make it past Raditz lol? Raditz would genuinely blow up the planet once he realizes he can't hurt Gojo lol
This is cool and all but Gojo Truly stops at tournament arc, piccolo has a laser attack that dodged face front of him, this alone puts him at lightspeed, and limitless is not stopping light speed.
Says who? Limitless is the constant and infinite division of anything approaching Gojo, over and over again infinitely, no matter how fast you're going, unless you're legitimately infinite speed you can't bypass infinity that way.
Unless you can travel a finite distance infinitely, or an infinite distance in a finite amount of time, you can't bypass infinity through sheer speed, and no teleportation doesn't count.
@@WestGarbage6 im pretty sure FTL and MFTL counts for infinite speed, simply because you cannot go above lightspeed, going above lightspeed is an unnatainable level of speed, which is essentially infinite speed
Technically, from the perspective of any photon, the very moment that it was born is also the moment that it dies. No time passes for it. It's going at the maximum possible speed that the universe permits, too. I think that would make it work in interesting ways with Limitless.
@@hm9934wrong. headcannon bs. light as a finite speed. even light doesn’t go past light speed. it is the fastest thing ever. yet it is measured. it’s finite. not infinite. stop trying to use ftl speeds to counter infinity so you can say gojo is fodder we know he’s fodder but stop ignoring the hax. his infinity works for 90% of the db cast. the only reason why he’d lose is that they can blow up the planet he’s on and he can’t survive in fucking space
@@Fadayo The perception of time of the thing being affected by limitless is never implied or suggested to matter nor does it make sense to. Also it traveling at what is essentially the max speed of our irl universe doesn't change the fact it's still only traveling at a finite level of speed and therefore would not just speed its way through infinity. Also you're misapplying irl physics anyways. Most fictional verses simply can't use our irl physics because they blatantly violate it, including Dragonball. You can maybe apply certain aspects, but using the speed limit of light and the universe simply doesn't make sense because if it applied to DB then none of its characters would be FTL in the first place, and yet many of them are, without that automatically giving them time travel.
He wouldnt even beat the farmer with a shotgun
Wait...Infinity slows things down by dividing the distance between it and him infinitely, right? Can't the power pole stretch infinitely? What would happen if Goku tried to stretch his Power Pole to poke Gojo? What's infinity divided by infinity?
Pretty sure infinity divided by infinity is still infinity
Infinity divided by infinity is an indeterminate form
@@mamabriel I believe this more than it still being infinity but...what would that even look like? In terms of the scenario I posed
The thing about Domain expansion is that the second Gojo finishes the incantation, the auto hit attack is IMMEDIATELY put into affect regardless of whether the barrier has fully enclosed or not. It’s actually shown in the Shibuya incident when he fights the disaster curses.
Imagine if Gojo reincarnated into dbz from the Saiyan saga amd trained with the characters. He'd easily be the strongest non Saiyan
True that can’t lie
Hollow purple version of Kamehameha plus kaioken with positive cursed energy constantly healing Gojo's body so he can take it all the way to kaioken times 60 something.
@@zelect5452 Gojo with RCT healing could probably survive past 100x easily, he'd essentially have super saiyan forms as a human, along with his other abilities.
Now that I think about it, why don't the others ask Goku to teach them the kaioken? If Krillin in his base form can take on Goku in SSB, imagine what he could do if he had a 50x kaioken or something, pretty much super saiyan.
@@WestGarbage6 Because that would make too sense. Really, a lot of the human fighters could be a lot stronger if they just used the resources available to them, like the aforementioned kaioken, or the fusion technique. Or the dragon balls, you know, the seven mystical artifacts that summon a magical wish granting dragon.
What i got from this based on the info provided is that he doesnt make it past saiyan saga vegeta or or even nappa. Great vid
I never expected salad to be a power scaler
but then something not many people notice
the stronger the opponent is compared to yourself/your domain
the less the sure hit effect works on them
for example of this
gojo's .2 domain
in shibuya
it sent regular people into a coma-like state for 2 weeks
but the extremely strong disaster curses ony had the effects for a couple minutes
and
sukuna's domain usually slashes everything to nothing in a couple seconds
but due to gojo's relativity and or blatant strength, it only made shallow slashes on him
so around in dbz, the domain wouldn't even effect them for a certain amount of time
rip Toriyama the goat 🕊️❤️
Bold to assume Gojo can resist the Sleepy Boy Technique.
He’s basically just surviving in dbz. In og db he could kill his opponents but once he gets into the Saiyan invasion saga he just stalemating
Saiyan Saga Vegeta would see that can he can't punch Gojo, get mad and just blow up the fucking planet.
@@yspy_1801 stop cursing its a sin
@@gregkareem9824 Technically cursing is not a sin (not good to say it everyday tho) but swearing to God is a sin
@@wilfridekoue1405 technically cursing isn't a sin since when? Proof ?????? Ya swearing to God is a sin true
@@gregkareem9824womp womp
I think Gojo's infinity couldn't be bypassed with speed. His infinity filters out harmful things to him which is why it doesn't filter out light.
Unless your moving faster than infinity and there are a couple speedsters in comics in dragon ball that can do that
Nice video but imo in the Namek saga, gojo would get demolished by goku, frieza, and vegeta with raw speed bc they have infinite speed scales in just base. This is after goku and vegeta got zenkais btw.
If you’re referring to the “Goku flew around Namek in an instant” feat, it’s pretty massive wank and it’s contradicted by a multitude of things supporting Goku being a finite speed (including Goku stating in that scene that everyone’s nearby, and plenty of finite speed “anti-feats” throughout the rest of Z), so it wasn’t worth including here. If we wanted to wank though, then yea 🗿
@@TheSaladBar nah its a different scale, the universe has statements of being infinite in size a few times in the daizenshuu, and frieza has many statements of being able to destroy it. This would mean that frieza is a high universal (and the statements were in reference to 2nd form frieza who has a power lvl of 1 million), meaning that anyone above that (base vegeta and goku post zenkai) are also at that lvl. Being that their attacks can destroy infinite constucts, their attacks should also be able to bypass infinity. This is also supported by the fact that the spirit bomb which gathers energy from the entire universe (which again is infinite) should also have infinite energy which frieza tanked. Just their attack potency is enough. If you wanna go into speed, vegeta states that power and speed grow together (with some characters like burter and dyspo specializing in certain stats), but this doesn't change the fact that a relation exists between the 2. We know that this proportion is indeed finite because around the time that characters still had finite power, their speed was also finite. This would mean that if a character's power is infinite, their level of speed should also be infinite. This is even more supported by the fact that toriyama states that in later sagas (in reference to the namek saga), super saiyan multipliers cant be numerically measured, which is just more implication that characters of this tier are above infinite. There are also other statements and feats such as cell having infinite power, goku being able to run across hell which is infinite, etc.
@@TheSaladBar also what are some anti feats i wanna know fr
Honestly I’m not looking to get into a discussion about why this is wank since it’s a bit off-topic (and a bit subjective), just explaining why I didn’t include the wank in the video. As for the anti-feats, they’re not necessarily “anti-feats” in the sense that the characters are slow, just multiple examples of characters doing things at a finite speed which contradicts the idea that they’re infinite speed. Perfect example: Kid Buu taking time to destroy hundreds of planets in a galaxy. Kid Buu is completely uninhibited, yet he took a finite amount of time to destroy it. Theres a couple of other examples (including up to the Granolah arc, such as Gas taking time to cross a finite amount of the universe) but I plan on making a vid about it anyway.
But yea like I said, I know the arguments for the scaling but consider it wank and not objective, so I don’t feel the need to debate something I agree with in a way🗿
Guldo can just kill him,
Technically guldo can bypass infinity cause infinity slow downs time around him and guldo moves at stopped time a feat greater than slow down.
Without bullshit jjk scaling he just loses to any character stronger or equal to tenkiachi roshi who is a moon buster at least but idk how fast he is so he could still lose I’m just assuming he is around light speed so should just be able to run out of domain before it expands since it’s show the expansion actually takes time in the manga and anime although small
He has LS reaction speed not LS travel speed or combat speed
@@seanbrown7083 he literal fought goku who dodged a light speed attack so yes he can fight at light speed. in dragon ball all your stats go up the same amount if its not focused so if you can box a character that can dodge light speed attacks you arfe light speed
@@TheGamingShogun I’m talking about gojo not goku
@@seanbrown7083 then gojo doesn't have LS reaction speed. At best he has lighting reaction speed. Sukana aim dodged kashimo's attack since he saw his hand in his face.
@@TheGamingShogun that is true but I can’t blame ppl for saying the JJK verse is LS cuz electromagnetic waves ARE light speed and kashimo CT uses EMW so u get what I’m saying right? 🤷🏽♂️
Bro, He'd be the tone kid who spans his abilities in combat games despite he's low level and can't hurt you at around the saiyan saga.
Vegeta: "DUDE UR NOT GONNA HURT US STOP SPAMMING!"
Nappa: "yeah can you stop orsomething?"
Goku:"Wow you seem pretty *ANNOYING!* "
Guys 1 full power special beam cannon cooks limitless. Drilling throught it would be ez.
Drilling through what??? Infinity would just slow it down infinitely, no attack can drill through it because it's not a shield or a wall.
bro clearly doesn't comprehend how limitless works
Silly thing, but you talking about Gojo being in the story since the beginning made me start to think about a story just like those some youtubers write, were it's like "what if Goku went to namek instead of earth" or something like that. What if Gojo was born in DBZ, and was allowed to get stronger just like them? Just a funny thought. It would be cool to see a human, maybe, reaching the levels of the characters on Super.
Nah bro i dont think he beats teen goku bc he can be scaled to solar system level bc goku teen is planetry is db but u have to remember that dr slump and db are the same world and the earth in dr slump is 900 times bigger than our sun and since the moon is half the size of the earth this makes the moon 450 times bigger than the sun and full power roshi destroyed it
Teen goku also has mftl speed if u use guide books
I'm thinking that Gojo's hollow purple is antimatter particle. That cancels out any matter in it's path. Just like Hakai.
What I hate about everyone say that “they can’t touch gojo” is the fact that they throw application speed completely out the door.
Example, if limitless can apply fast enough that it stops someone so fast that gojo can’t even perceive them (shown by everyone beyond raditz) then what dictates the application speed if it’s not gojo? If it’s dictated on its own, then infinity EXTENSION should mean instant death and he wouldn’t need blue, red, or purple anyway since it’s pointless waste of energy. Since it doesn’t work that way, that mean it’s dictated by gojo and lots of things would EASILY bypass it.
Air reaches him so just the shockwave of anyone’s attack should kill by the time they reach nappa (being like 3 arcs of generous here). Not to mean the attacks that are send within others. Think of frieza killing krillin. Everyone there already knew what was going on and told frieza to stop. It’s a simple technique to them but likely only on MUCH weaker enemies. Like gojo compared to Raditz at best.
the neutral version of limitless is always active since he learned rct in the flashback arc. gojo has white listed things to pass through infinity based on what is harmful or harmless to him. neutral limitless works by making things traveling to gojo have to cross more and more distance the closer they get to him, up to the point where u would have to cross infinite distance to get to him (which is impossible). the shockwave would def not reach gojo but something that disregards the concept of space will, maybe something like frieza's telekinesis if that ability doesn't require frieza's ki to touch gojo and just uses his mind to do it.
Gojo's six eyes give him superhuman perception, and processing abilities, his limitless automatically filters out threats from other things, which is why air, light, and sound can pass through freely even when it's constantly active.
Way too generous with gojos abilities. Way way too generous. Gojo getting past King Piccolo and Master roshi is a hard stretch.
Gojo also explained in his first fight against Gogo that if someone is severely stronger than him they can overcome infinity by wearing him out
You’re thinking of this in the wrong context. This isn’t physical strength it’s cursed energy. It takes Gojo no effort to infinity regular ass punches and kicks
Ki blasts are a different story, but I think Kamehamehas from the peanut gallery can be easily avoided
Everything a DB character does is enhanced with ki…
You literally just made this up lmao. Go back and reread the fight and try to find me where he says this, he doesn't. Bro is actually spreading misinformation to be quirky. There is never any implication or suggestion (in that fight or anywhere else in the manga) whatsoever that neutral limitless drains more CE if it has to block stronger things, or that it drains a significant amount of CE in general. Gojo passively generates enough CE to use limitless indefinitely, he only runs into stamina issues if he spams domains and strong attacks and rct, and even then it just lowers his output but his neutral limitless never goes down and wouldn't because it's energy drain is just too low to be significant.
@@rylace its in the anime sub, he is explains it during the fight with Jogo while he’s basically trolling him
Speaking of dimensional stuff, one pre-Super character comes to mind that can defeat Gojo’s Infinity: Janemba. His abilities affect reality and his sword can cut through dimensions. It’s possible that he could cut through Gojo and Infinity in the same way Sukuna did.
Janemba affects hell which is already above a 3d construct like infinity
Lol janemba is overkill
Gojo has ftl speed feats in the manga and could be wanked to planetary at the highest but as soon as he gets to characters with infinite speed it’s over
You should definitely do more Dragonball gauntlets like this with other anime characters
You kind of just assumed everybody has the knowledge that it’s possible to break out of the domain. Most wouldn’t think to.
You just assumed the domain whould actualy work on them
Are you really trying to imply that Gojo makes it farther than the vid suggests due to this "assumption" (not really an assumption they straight up would know to dodge 😭)
@@saidumnubaj I mean they don’t have any special differences from humans mentally judging from behavior so it would work yes.
@@googoongga You don’t dodge a domain. You have to know how domains work in regards to space and know there is an invisible wall somewhere you have to break. So yeah, they probably wouldn’t know the highly specific way to break out of a domain.
@@Chaos_Star "mentaly"
he would be dead before raditz
Gojo stops at Mr. Satan.
he can't even go past kid goku
In Dragonball, it's very consistent that if you have enough of a power difference between a fighter with hax and raw strength, the raw strength can just plow through the hax. What likely happens is characters just power through Gojo's infinity and kill him easily because of this.
well in jjk it doesn't work that way so why should we go with the dragonball rule, which as far as i remember is a retcon from super and only used once if i'm not mistaken.
Not even close, there's maybe a few instances of this ever, the situation with Hit in the 6th and 7th universe tournament is a mistranslation, Goku never moved through time or broke through time or anything like that, he just learned how to anticipate Hit's movements.
Even then, plowing through infinity isn't possible, unless you're moving at infinite speed, there's nothing to "plow through" it'd be like trying to destroy air by flying through it, infinity is a distance that infinitely slows you down, there's no wall they can hit to break it, it's not a barrier or a wall.