The real question is ...why don't black people practice the same exclusionary customs as other people? We want everybody to love us , when we don't even love ourselves.
@Mark Simmons Your post is the best explained. Why don't Black people practice the same. Also, we want everybody to love us, when we don't even love ourselves.. If a people don't love themselves, why should they expect for anyone else to love them?
I was engaged to an Indian woman whose parents didn't know she was even dating a black man. Once they found out, they threatened she would be disowned if she continued dating me. She didn't want ro be disowned so she broke off the engagement. Year's later she got married to a white man and the family was celebrating like it was a new year's Eve party. I've seen this time and time again. Yes, they want them ro marry their own BUT they would rather have their children marry a white person than a black person!
As a black person, I fully support Indians marrying within their race and so should we. Each race should marry its own. Black people should stop this nonsense of trying to get accepted and marrying outside their race.
Right. There is absolutely no issue with these ethnic groups preferring their own. Who else is going to keep their ethnicity going strong except them? 🤷🏾♀️
It should never be about “trying to be accepted”. It should be about making a decision about what’s right for you. If you find a good person with similar values, morals and education and he/she happens to be outside of your race then so be it. Why are we trying to normalize racism?
The problem is focusing on the wrong things. Who GAF about what some other people think about you. Nobody has time for people whose minds are clouded with the fear and ignorance of bigotry or prejudice. Be about your purpose. Raise your standards of excellence. Reach for the highest status after all that's what's respected worldwide. Ask yourself, are they worthy of your time and effort, especially considering what invaluable assets (both in character and commerce) that you possess. Concede nothing without a demand. Let them wonder if You will find them acceptable. Make yourself the prize.
Damn as an Indian i found ur comment that's truly a man representing his origin...i can see u had good parents and they taught how to respect others and eventually respect ur own self.
This is not Bigotry. A Father who cares for his daughter would want her to be their own kind. I really don't understand why someone has to be with people of different races, what's wrong with your black woman.
@user-sr4we2vn7q 😂 Agree. Not when every Afriacan Americans who makes it big has to marry a Caucasian, Latinas or mixed race . Ask those NBA players, AAs in Hollywood and rappers
@user-sr4we2vn7q Yes I meant you AAs. Your wine? I bet you meant your women . But remember they act the same like you guys. They're your sisters, neighnours , cousins ,part of your communities. So do you think mean men act better than women? While they hail from the same education , families , neigbhourhoods? That's very demeaning to your own people. Remember those whi.tes even mock you that you don't date your own ( propably mudsharks , but not all). Anyone who make it big go chasing white girls. Then you men go around crying about ra.cism while you have that inferiority complex in yourself
Oshay hit nail on the head... You gotta prefer yourself. My cousin was in a relationship with a woman from a west/south asian group and after 2 ½ years of trying to appease her family he broke it off with her. He said he got tired of trying to show them that he was a *"Good Black."* It took longer than I would have liked, but I was glad when him made the decision. You shouldn't have to justify ethnic identity just to be with someone. B1
As a Indian man, I wouldn't marry a African American woman even if you paid me a million dollars a year, provided me with a house, car, all the sports channels, all the bbq, beer and holidays I want and told I never have to work for the rest of my life. I'm not racist, I do not like the attitudes of African American women. I prefer my women to be feminine, soft, warm, comforting with the voice and tone to match, loyalty and most importantly is knowing when to be quiet. I am single and I don't need your million dollar a year. I plan to stay this way till I die. I have plans for my retirement in 10 years in Asia.
But it still doesn’t make sense best their caste system is based on skin tone not race because they are all the same race. It’s Indians with darker skin. Involving an African into that conversation doesn’t make sense because they are of a different rave and culture. It’s like saying a white man can go to India and now everyone must work for him he will have the best of everything even though he is a completely different race and culture.
Self preservation typically leads to imperialism, colonialism, and nationalism. Eventually these 3 things combined with new technologies and nuclear weapons will lead to extermination of the human race. Self preservation was fine when we all only had sticks and stones. Self preservation is no longer the answer!
Black people don't know nothing about self preservation. It doesn't matter if it's in the US, Caribbean, Europe or the the continent of Africa, selling each other out is the black way! In every single one of these communities there are black people who wont hesitate to sell each other out for the approval of non black people!
As an Indian man, there are many layers within the indian culture when dating/marrying outside of their race. Now I have seen relationships between Indian girls with black men and each of them ended up having a child and now they are single. This isn't even a race thing, this has become a cultural. I know black people that strongly believe in the family unit which aligns to traditional indian values however the western influence where a family unit is not priority and parents fear their child will be a single mother where the child has no father to raise and protect them. This is why stereo types plays such a huge part in why its frowned upon. I don't subscribe to all the indian traditional views but I understand why. This isn't a straight forward subject where it's purely based on racism. Indians have been racist to themselves with the caste system. But I have dated a black woman in the past and I love women regardless of their colour or culture. It comes down to culture more than colour imo.
When you speak Western will be USA, ask a SPanish or Italian Families are something of supreme importance even 60 and 70 years ago. Society were conservatives women couldn´t drive cars or even open a bank account by themselves needed the father consent. Please when you speak Western there are much countries in Europe not only USA. We are not all the same. As you said there are much layers to the WESTERN word. South countries are more similar to India in family oriented values, society evolve with time but we are not ignorant and not libertine or loose. I live in Spain and i know how difficult women had it here.
If you look at Caribbean, we can see inter racial marriages once cultural bridges are made, or cultures overlap and merge. I certainly think some understand of other’s values make an impact. I have seen educated Kenyans and Nigerians have strong ambition and family orientation which will fit very well with Indians but there is not wide awareness of it. In last few decades growing interaction of Indians in the west made the latter accept whites more. But stereo types of indisciplined black man still persist. Need to see more educated black men. I think Nigerian and Kenyan black men and women will probably the first ones Indians can easily relate to and connect.
@@girisha_laxmi11 where women cant drive or open a back account? May be I misunderstood u but are u trying to show that as something good? I dont think that is something to be proud of. In India women have all legal rights since the begining of independence so no we do not advocate for such things.
I don’t see anything tough about being a black man. It’s you black men that cannot freaking stay in one place. You black men think dating out of your race is a big deal. Then when you get smack disrespected with rejection, y’all wanna cry wolf. Just marry your own, not that hard.😅
Seen Indian girls openly date white guys,but have to hide when dating black guys. In my life time I've seen whites attack Indians chase them ridicule them. But they will secretly despise black people.
Why are we always talking about marrying some other race? I literally don't want to be with a woman, with whom I make a financial pact through marriage, that isn't Black.
I am so blessed and proud to be black. Each day I live I get to love my black skin even more. I see the lengths people are prepared to go to just to prevent their kids from dating or marrying a black person. I have never seen a black person go drastic just to stop their black child dating out of race. We know true love and are a very tolerant people. Racist we are not and thats why we are hated out of pure envy and jealousy. Hate us but want to be so like us 😂.
All these pro blacks do on here is bitch and moan and crying about who want us or not. Because interracial relationships are a big topic that they just can't shut up about because this is how they make their money like that clown umar johnson. If they can just do their own research you can clearly see indian women marrying bm in american. But people are too damn ignorant and stupid and just wanna generalize a whole group of people and just race baiting. I hate black folks and I hate the bitching and moaning
We concerntrate on everything but ourselves.....that is the problem. My great grand ma is Indian, I've mixed Ugandan and Indian uncles, aunties, etc. We have to stop concerntrating on anything that doesn't include pooling funds and building in Africa. We are social pigeons with no institutional financial huge contributions toward our own strategical building.
@@RPNDWORLDWIDE just look on UA-cam. When you look up black and Indian wedding they are all Africans. That’s because the are the exception to the rule. I have heard immigrants say that their parents told them to stay away from blacks in America, even Africans look down on us. We just have a bad reputation in general.
@@Jon-p4g You are the blue blooded Maroon royal household of African nations, and the Lord has made you shine in all your splendour regardless of what others think of you. You shall always be a guide and leaders of nations as the Lord stated, either to guide for better or to guide for worse. We all want to copy the style, speech, and culture of black Americans. Fuck what others say and think, give me my black American sister and I will marry her and make her proud. The elders fall for the okeedoke but the younger generations all know
@@Jon-p4g can u name one great man of ur culture that dont have dark history with women...we indian have a lot...like buddha,mahavira and more..can name one people from ur culture?
Their culture is extremely different than ours. We don't have the same beliefs and customs at all. African (black) people have different beliefs. Especially those that are not Christian or Muslims. I don't think it would ever, ever work unless you grew up in their country and really understood the differences. You can't just marry everyone. Even within ourselves it's already complicated. I wouldn't want to complicate things even more. It's a very strong pass for me and my entire family.
In India marriage is very complex. It isn't just about race (either white or black) or religion. It is also about communities and also within communities, you cannot marry someone closely related (from both parents' sides in order to restrict any level of incest). After you satisfy these criteria, you also match the janam kundili (a Hindu birth certificate detailing the constellation at the time of birth) so to marry, they also match these constellations. Finally, marriages in India are for life and it is like two families get bonded for ever.
I disagree- Asians in general -but Indians in particular bring the religion in when it suits them- especially when it is a Black person but it is okay to marry a White person who is not of the same religion- it’s definitely colourism - aiming for beige offspring🤦🏽♀️
It's not about black per se. It's more about marrying someone with similar background for a successful alliance or marriage. Education, culture, religion, job/income, values like respect for elders, hard work, and so on. Indians pass on this behavior to each generation.
Most Indians are just as melanated as Africans, and for the most part, they are very respectful towards us. It's not "racist" if they refuse to marry us since they are a very cultured people who have kept their cultures despite colonialism, war, etc. I think it's ought to be respected, and it's also NATURAL. Most cultures/ethnicites are homogenous.
I’m from Liberia 🇱🇷 in West Africa. My brother have been marry to a Indian woman and have two children for more than 30 years. When my brother met her she was successful and had more than my brother. It depends where you grew up! Europe or America 🇺🇸. I can’t say how her parents thought about my brother, but she loves him. I love black love, but every one have to make their own choices!
Of course there are lots of Indians and black unions but that’s not the norm. That’s the main topic. There’s nothing wrong people protecting their bloodlines. I’m not mad at Indians for sticking to their own. Black people need to stay on the same code. That’s how you build your community and stay in power. Whites have been doing it for hundreds of years and that’s why they control everyone Asians are doing it too.
You just proved their point, she probably got disowned by her parents. There are Indians who will deal with Blacks, but their families often do not approve.
Listen, at the core of the argument, I have no issues. The question is why don’t WE (Black/African diaspora) think and behave similarly? Why this need to integrate or assimilate? Lets prioritize ourselves. Just as long as there aren’t intentional effort to oppress others because you deem yourself superior, we’re good. Good fences make good neighbors.
Because they look and have been told you as blk man have nothing. And do not build or build up your blk community's. The blk man has did this to him self till you only think about self and not community. The only group of men who don't care about there own and think they can do better dating or marrying some other race of women. But building for other races communities.
The movie Mississippi Masala realistically addressed this topic. It was based on a true story starring Denzel Washington falling in love with an Indian girl who moved to Mississippi from Uganda. The movie touched on multiple subjects dealing with interracial relationships within different cultures.
Why do we always need an exclusive expose on who isn’t dating blacks and why we don’t fucking care! I’m fine with dating my own race and could care less if some foreigner finds me attractive
Exactly, sis! I don’t understand why many black podcasts focus so much on this nonsense. How about topics and discussions on how we can love and uplift ourselves and each other?
Speaking as someone who is classified as 'Black American', too many African/Africoid/Indigenous Black American people seem to be caught up marrying into another race of people and into another culture. And increasing numbers of Black men in particular seem to be too eager to marry women that are not of their same cultural/ethnic background. We don't want to admit it, but many of us are not pleased with the physical characteristics we have amongst ourselves. Note that when Black people, especially men, marry outside the culture/race, they're aiming for women with lighter skin and relatively straighter hair. They're not trying to build families with people who are unmistakably Black/Black African in appearance. Let's face it - we're considered a sorry bunch because too many of us are too desperate to be accepted by ANYONE else, and we don't respect and honor ourselves to the same high degree that other groups of people respect and honor themselves. We have to re-learn to be pleased with how the Creator made us, and be willing to share that love and admiration with others who mirror us in appearance and behavior.
Yes, the decolonization of the Black mindset must happen or else we're done for. I only disagree with you in terms of dating out of our "culture". My unmistakably, Black fiancée is from Brazil and has a different culture, but I speak her language (Portuguese), eat her foods and I know her history and traditions, many of which are African rooted. I'm teaching her English, African-American history, I play African-American music in the house and cook our foods and the cultural exchange works totally fine.
@@skatebordstephenHer foods are "African rooted?" That's as close an association as many Black American want with Africa when it comes to women they are willing to sacrifice for.
Now, this conversation matters and great thoughts shared! We need to create our own thriving communities and circulate our dollars within our communities. If we change our mindset, watch our progression. What we don’t understand is when we marry one another and build wealth together it produces generational impactful differences. Oshay, you spot on with your comments on this relevant topic!
The problem in America is not that you're not building community. The problem is that you're binding those communities through poverty and desperation as opposed to family and culture. As a result, these communities don't succeed on a socioeconomic level, thereby raising the entire race. The Asians and the Indians have perfected this.
I'm Indian and let me tell you our parents feel the EXACT same way about white people as well. I wanted to marry a white girl and my whole family told me that I could marry her but I would be disowned. 10 years later, now I'm married to a indian girl, someone of my own community and have 3 amazing children and I thank my family from stopping me from diluting my bloodline and my culture. Having said that the African woman in this video is very beautiful!
Not really, I’m Indian and I know my family would accept a white person over black. It’s really sad but the south Asian community would always prefer lighter skinned person over black skinned
@@InayahChoudhury-ms9zxnothing wrong in having a Preference. And it’s not all about skin colour but also about race. Whites and Indians are both Caucasoid racially.
@@ManabDasiammanabtake yogi u.p he was mongoliod.he don't have aryan face.while in india some brown people have aryan skull structure features but skin brown.they are called Archaic aryans.
My mum and dad both came from saint vincent & the grenadines He was Carribean indian and mum was carribean african ,they were married over 50 years. My dads cousin was carribean indian from saint vincent and his wife was carrubean affrican from barbados. They too were married for a very long time . The carribean and America are very different
@@lunalea1250 Thank you for your reply. I agree with you . However in 2023 I see it this way. Their are no black or white people. African americans / caribeans / caribean british /african ( not nort african) are all different shades of brown. Europeans are all different shades of pink Doubt me ? Compare tins of black and white paint to skin colours mentioned.
Ur very welcome & happy ur the child of such a long lasting union!🥳 Well, yes & no to colour, just go in any hardware store & u will find Berger, Sherwin Williams, Behr paint in " every colour of the 🌈 colour, ethnicity & nationality are all different... did u know lots of people named DaSilva, DaCosta were Jews who were chased out/ran away from Chile, Portugal & spain, went to Caribbean Islands including Jamaica & Cuba, our history is very complex?🌍🤔👀📚
If Im being honest, I can understand why other races would be particularly worried if their kid brought home a Black person to marry. No one wants their kid to marry into a community that has such a high level of self hate ( so many Black folk dont even want to deal with each other). Also, look at the conditions of most Black communities around the world. No parent in their right mind would want their kid to feel the lack of community support and broken down social network that the Black community shows daily. It is maddening that Black communities are in the state they are in. It wreaks of instability and danger. Yes, racism exists too, but it isnt the reason for all of what is going on in the Black community.
This is very true. Its not about stereotypes and racism. Many of these groups have first hand experience with black people and the black community. The rates of single parenthood in the black community is enough of an issue. Tradition Indians do not play like that and divorce is highly frowned upon. They do not have a baby mama culture like we do.
I had a Indian friend who had a arranged marriage with a guy, but she didn't want to marry him .....she like me very much and I am black ...but I passed on it ..I love my black sistas to much.
Right.... Or maybe men are realizing that the sistas are leaving. Or at least the good ones are and they are getting the bad batch from other races like Christian Obumseli. Sorry, if a man has to go this hard to display "he loves the sistas"... well, you guys already fucked up making us second guess you.
Keep this in Mind my fellow Afrcans we have never got friends and will never have one because the historical evidence is clear : You're the Alpha and Omega no matter what ! Stay put the children of Jacob . A word to the wise is enough . You are the Universe.
No one has friends, all ethnicities across the planet are constantly fighting over trivial nonsense including us Africans. Humans fight amongst each other instead of working together that's just how it is. Black People fight Black People, Whites fight Whites, Blacks and Whites fight and so on. None of this ends until we all work together. All humans across the planet are the universe and until we wake up to that truth we will continue to bring each other down. We're better off united than divided.
This here is the conversation we black people need to converse regularly until we get the value of it. We black people in this modern time doesn't talk about this issue at all, the urge to assimilate into other race is ubiquitous. Sticking to your own race is all about race loyalty not racism, racism is something totally different. Every race is loyal to their own kind except for black people, which to me personally is a curse for us blacks. Racism is when one race uses their power and authority to deny other race their right to prosper, live or survive. 😎💯💪🏾✊🏾
When I was growing up in the US, I remember learning about arranged marriages. I felt so happy that I would never have to deal with that. We are indoctrinated to believe that is oppressive, and people should just be free to do whatever they want. Now, I am the mother of a teenager. There is no way I would allow my son to pick a wife without offering my wisdom. Looking back, I wish my family could have been more involved in my relationships, vetting the men I dated. I probably would have had less heartache and wasted time. Arranged marriages have a bad name among common folk, but all people who are looking to build generation wealth do it. Those people are perfectly OK with those in the lower level of society mixing it up because without unity, there is no power. Now, most parents in the US feel out of place telling their adult kids who to marry. I suggest that we have a relationship vetting service to help our people, especially our women, with selecting a husband. Not just match making but actually vetting whereby both people are subjected to the same invasive scrutiny an Indian would have to go through to marry another Indian. Being Indian is only a prerequisite. Beyond that, there is more vetting into his family, his cousins, is anyone crazy on his mother side😅 Yeah, that's all useful information.
I am sooo glad you said this. Look at the confusion that the American population at large is going through with the breakdown of relationships between men and women at large. The proliferation of Black male/female relationship forums is out of control. Those platforms (TV shoes, social media streams) are using the breakdown of relationships between Black people as entertainment. We would be facing so much less confusion and be able to meet on the same page more easily if we had a body of shared cultural norms and values that we respected at all costs. It used to be that way with Black Americans. Looks like we'd better get back to it.
@@kathym8453they would say they're independent n it's free speech so no one should tell them what to do or say, everyone is proud of trying to show who is wiser that the other etc
I think even some African cultures have a tradition of arranged marriage, am I right. Lots of times two people are paired up by their elders in their respective churches and mosques.
Why are Black people so upset with "Why Indians Refuse to Marry Black People", or any other race of people for that matter. My point is that "Why can't we be as much into our race as other races of people are into theirs". I could care zero 0% about any other race, and even members of the Black race who would not want to have a relationship with me. To me its about whoever finds me, and If I accept it. We all have to learn how to love ourselves....
Honestly it’s black men who wants every race of women to want them. As a black woman, I could care less about what religion or culture doesn’t accept me. These dudes wanna be accepted by everyone and love their women but hate their women. It’s comical and delusional
@user-rl7mt4gh3oDude are you serious???Indians will die rather than putting their culture down...Arabs tried it,British tried it,Buddhist tried it,Jainism preachers tried it for 1500 years But no one is able to change culture of India... It's still a hindu majority country and forever be
I'm an Indian man married to a woman of my caste and we have nothing against any race or religion or culture. However, our parents in majority case are traditional and we have to follow a lot of boundaries because of them.
The whole point of the conversation is that the Indians ,other Asians and Europeans are building there nations and they put that first.Those people never wanted a mixed race nation.Religious customs are different and will be important in a marriage.The vast majority of Indians are Hindu and other non-Christian religions.
If they didn't t want a mixed children than they should ve thought of that from day one slavery days up to breeding slaves etc. Why hate on the children who were brought in2 this world without their consent. Greed nd love of money brought the unwanted mixed children, GOD IS WATCHING. MIXED RACE ARE EVERYONE S FOOTBALL
as someone with a father from India and a mother from Jamaica.. there are parts of my Indian heritage I relate to, however, there’s always been an underlying divide within the family :/
@Aarondigby5054. You mean, human race. Bruh, stop it already 😢. Besides, Indians & Chinese have an inferiority towards white people, as such there is no pushback against marrying whites from these cultures/Asians 🙄
I don't quite totally agree with the host. This is similar to what the black Americans are complaining about when Africans come to the USA and kinda avoid them. Africans as much as Asians often have a strong sense of community. There is too much diversity within the black community and often we haven't been able to band together as a group and leverage that power to affect many things like the asians
Black Americans don't care about Africans "avoiding them". The issue is many African/Caribbeans come to the USA and start parroting white supremacist talking points and undermining Black American agendas. Or disrespecting our culture and historical icons. Asians, Arabs, and Hispanics don't do that to each other.
No, black americans are very undiplomatic and rude,Indians are colourist in the own community. Afrophobia is worldwide and if you are of african descent you will be affected.
Black Americans lack culture. Culture is what binds people together. Culture being a common belief in GOD and an adherence to the code of ethics dictated by GOD. Just having a similar appearance is not enough.
I wouldn't want to be with an Indian woman neither so im not mad at them for not wanting to mess with us like that. I do well with my own women anyways. Us melaninated people should be the same way towards other races and stick to our own during relations and business relations for the community. BUT unfortunately too many of us need acceptance from other races and having self hate issues, one of many reasons why we can't get right. But i still hope for the day for us to come on top for once over other races but in the meantime is just wishful thinking..
Yo deontay you know you still have brothers have a hard or difficult time trying to find a sista like myself I have never been with a black woman and I'm 37 years old
We are the most loving self absorbed people on the planet. It borders on narcissism. Instead of "self love" we should view others as competitors to try to do better with our communities in diaspora
Absolute facts! The lady was right not to disrespect her parents. It is not racism, but cultural traditions, BP are just hurt, because others don’t think like them.
Indian people are very loyal and loves their people and wants a stong Indian bloodline Its like a Majestic Bald Eagle I have never saw a Majestic Bald Eagle mate with a crow When you love your people You dont flee from your people You are very loyal to your people
@@cjh6678 I never or I don't believe I will never see a Majestic Bald Eagle mate with a crow The Majestic Bald Eagle has to much LOYALTY and RESPECT for their own species and wants a very strong bloodline
Ancient years too late in regard to intermingling and race ancient years ago had nothing to do with the pigmentation of the skin. Ppl ancient years ago were forbidden to mix their blood with ppl that were byproducts of illicit and forbidden blood unions such as incest, adultery, rape or any other deviant behavior that was a selfish act.
The comment section on this channel proves that if pale skinned ppl didn't exist, the "dark races" consisting of many ethnicities would still be indifferent/vain, hostile and competitive towards one another. The Europeans/Caucasians belief system just brought out behaviors and attitudes in the indigenous ppl that was already dormant within them. When ppl begin to look beyond the pigment of the skin, they will soon realize that the battle is really with the spirit/souls of ppl in general.
@@TheSaintwrestler904 Wanting to be around your own people does not equate wars and division. It's only division when black people do it but none of you rainbow folks say anything when Asians or white people do it.
Gabs is always on point! NEVER dilute your bloodline! The "Black" bloodline is majestic. We are the mothers and fathers of humanity...What is wrong with us man??? I'm so sick of seeing black footballers, and wealthy black athletes, and business men, and women for that matter, marrying non-black spouses. Giving that amassed wealth back to groups of people who already despise us! Build up your own women! I respect tribal traditions, but he way I see it, as long as the person is black it's ok to marry them if the two can make their cultural differences work...Oshay is point too, by the way! Black folks HAVE to stop seeking validation from people who already hate us. And every group hates, and steps on black people.
If more black women acted more civilized and didn’t act so masculine, we would have to go outside of our race. I am totally for mixing the black blood! It needs to be diluted. We are , and will forever be viewed as the damned race. If we were really that valuable and and kings and queens, the Africans would have never sold us.
They understand the importance of a pure bloodline. They are protecting their lineage. Black people hate themselves so much they want to force other people to accept them when they don’t accept themselves. I love Indian people and their culture.
We are the only race who doesn't have survival instinct to mingle in priority with their own. We loose so many good, intelligent men to other communities. This is looking our generational wealth. At this rate, we are going to lose everything
The Answer To All These Question Was As Simple As This Indians And African People Have Different Cultures, This Has Nothing To Do With Race. I Like How People Like To Make Everything About Themselves When It's Have Nothing To Do With Them.
Marriages are between families and by extension, they are also between the race or the races,that the families belong to, and some families prefer that their son or daughter marry someone of their own race, and that's not racist, it's called freedom of choice and freedom of association, which every human being on this earth, is entitled to
@@redsak5311 so it's not coercion or lack of choice for the other person? You seem to have disregarded my point so not sure what you're disagreeing with
@@lordnyko1860 Lack of choice versus what? Diluting your bloodline? Interrupting long held cultural norms? It is being weighted against something. And one of them is greater.
Thank you for this video: I was just thinking about this very topic yesterday. Indians are the top earners in America. I always wondered how many African-Americans marry Indians as I hardly ever see any couples of that dynamic. (I was born and raised In Maryland)
Are you sure? The government says the same thing about the Nigerians in America. Also, Indians are softer to the palates of White people because of the shortage of science orientedly train workers back in the early days of Silicone Valley with technology boom. However, the White have preferred the light, closer to White looking Asian, like the Chinese women. The fact is the average "Joe Blow" Indian men and women in the US and India desire is to marry a White person or a fairer-skin Indian
I am Afro American when I was a teenager my high school sweetheart who was also Afro American folks didn’t care for me because I was dark skin so we get down like that too.
Ironically in Jamaica they dont behave like that..Neither the older Chinese. Black Jamaicans who are the vast majority have always lived harmoniously with them, no seperation..Marrying an indian and vice vera has never been a problem and so too the chinese. Meanwhile in Guyana and Trinidad its closer to 50/50. some tensions but mostly harmonious..
They don’t behave that way, because they are not the majority. It still don’t change the fact that Blacks globally are the bottom barrel. Jamaicans don’t have desirable features, unless they are Mixed.
I do get and understand the racial sensitivities between black and Indian people inter-marrying. But I hate to break this to a lot of folks, there are plenty of black and Indian interracial marriages throughout the Caribbean and parts of South America. We act as if these unions are impossible which they are not. C'mon, our Vice President Kamala Harris is a combination of being mixed black and Indian and we still pretend to ignore those facts. These topics are proof on how much hate we still have in each other.
@@harveyandrews4252The more you continue to be a foolish clown, the more destructive energy will continue to come your way, until you are completely Destroyed by the Ancient of Days🤡
Marriage is a personal choice, it’s not a race issue. Indians prefer Indians. What’s wrong with that. Do you see lion marrying an elephant. If blacks wants marry Indians , let there be true love and it’s between 2 people. Don’t generalize and insult us
In the Caribbean we inter marry each other all the time no one thinks about it visit Trinidad or Guyana and you will get the most interesting mix of people
The Indians are very ra*ist in Guyana, Trinidad and Tobago to but their is a small intermarriage creating dougla , once they come to NYC they don't associate with black at all if possible mostly
The British bought indians to the Caribbean from 1838 until the WW1 to work as indentured servants as a replacement for the newly emancipated African slave so yes indian indians
Great discussion. Idi Amin came to my mind when I read the topic. Idi Amin wanted us to be proud of who we are and keep our heritage amongst ourselves. The arabs too love marrying their own and keep the lineage going. We should be keen on keeping up with people who look like us and share more or less the same culture norms.
Of Course, we need to marry within our own Race because whenever we marry outside our Race, have kids outside of our Race, we Commit Genocide Against Our Race. Race mixing is DESTRUCTIVE !! B1 = Black 1st ❤🖤💚
There is nothing wrong wanting their kids to marry people from their own race. My father preferred that I marry someone of my race. He had friends of all races and backgrounds, who would come over and I was brought up to call all elders regardless of race: aunty/uncle. There is nothing wrong with wanting your kids marrying someone of the same race.
@@williamparrish2436 Backwards thinking according to you and your kind. You need stop thinking that the entire world should revolve around similar thinking. And honestly why not mind your own business? P sure the west and other countries have got their own problems to solve rather than trying to teach other countries "your advanced thinking"
@@williamparrish2436 what backwardness lol protecting own bloodline, religion and language culture and status doesn't come under backwardness it was known as a preseevness, got it.
@@SurajMandal-lj6hc Bloodline is imaginary, religion is like believing in Zeus, language and culture are made up. Outside of all of that bullshit we are alive and aware. Or we could continue with the past, that has worked well for humanity hasn't it haha?
How do we overcome the multiplicity of 3,000+ African ethnic groups? How do we overcome the multiplicity of 2,500+ African languages? How do we enhance our solidarity value? Value is superseded by organization, unity, standards, cooperation, discipline, and order.
@@upstar21t do those other groups consist of 3,000+ ethnic groups and 2,500+ languages? It is very, very difficult to cooperate/organize while speaking many many languages and having many many customs people are willing to die for or delete others for!
@@jmanhope1745 I think you misunderstood me. Those thousands of groups you mention, all either belong to the main Bantu or main Nilote group. That's what I meant.
@@upstar21t you are correct and if we would extrapolate your observation to its logical conclusion, all groups on Planet Earth are subgroups of the singular group human beings. It behooves us to work together as brothers or die alone as enemies.
I enjoy listening to this podcast. Marrying outside ethnicity is a dicey issue. I advocate marrying whom ever one chooses or who makes him/her happy. But i prefer that marriage should be within ethnicity. But another challenge we have is the diversity of the black race. Blacks is the most diverse race with so many ethnicity, so it's a bit complex. In Nigeria alone, we have over 300 tribes and cultures. There are some tribes that also cut across other countries as well. We have the Fulanis in Nigeria and other neighbouring countries. There is also the economic situation to it. Most people travel outside to earn a living. You're gonna meet different cultures and race. What am i expected to do ?
A indian here, indians dnt generally marry ppl from other states in india, so marrying different nationality is a big step, but ppl are changing but its more social and cultural as xolour of the skin is not much of an issue as ppl marry black coloured skin ppl in india becoz they are culturally indian
I don’t know the name of this guy but thank you for calling us out as Africans. Its refreshing to have someone from a different world give us their perspective, while at the same time saying it with love❤
Isn't dating even complex among Indians themselves?! Indians keep their culture regardless of where they go. There are outliers, but we cannot really blame them. Same case with Cushites of East Africa.
@@murielodette2995 Well if God blesses you with a good spouse that makes you happy, who cares? We all decide what's best for us. That woman chose to go with her parents decisions
Honestly my goal is to try to stick with my own race, as I get older I begin to slowly realize that most of the doesn't see us as equals nor do they see us as value. It's hard considering I live in San Francisco and the options are limited, it's even harder trying to stick with my own ethnic group (Black America) unless I book a trip to Atlanta.
I've seen many, many an interracial marriage work, it's about the individuals. You'd be surprised, I've seen people with MAGA backgrounds marry dark men and have happy marriages. You have to watch for certain signs, though, I admit.
@@josephjohnson1057 true but it's not common, I had a few Mexican roommates and they told me the main thing there parents fear is them marrying a black person, as for an Asians it's the same thing because they don't want there grand child born with darker skin
@@Ahmaio Most hit girls and people with athletic genetics avoid both Mexicans and asians; even asian girls many are not attracted to asian guys, they go for predominantly white guys or black men (the cooler asian girls not chasing fraudulent societal prejudice).
When you learn to prefer and value your own, the others will see it. So whenever you decide to give them attention they will in turn value you being around them. But when you disregard your own you are invariably telling them that your community is low value. If you dont understand ask an Igbo man to explain to you 😊
Thank you for this well scripted episode. Being a Kenyan national of Indian origin in the USA, I like what Agaba Tumusime explains about his dad's stand and wisdom. While studying in Chicago in my grad class I did a book review on a book written by a Jewish author she writes on the similar lines. Here's my book review from my class on this subject: In conclusion, the importance of retaining one's exclusive traditions while reaching out and being open is evident: The victim group's narratives are neither "misogynistic, and boundary stories are not xenophobic. Maintaining and celebrating group identity without reinforcing estrangement and enmity between groups. Healthy boundaries are essential to retain separate traditions and not be so homogenized that we have no sense of identity or continuity or appreciation of historical purpose, advantages and dangers of openness, and the difficulty of maintaining identity without exclusivity" (P.352). The author acknowledges that the problem of healthy unity in a balanced diversity remains to be solved. This book is a great tool. Sharma, K. Book Review of Tikva Frymer-Kensky, Reading the Women of the Bible: A New Interpretation of Their Stories (New York: Schocken Books, 2002). Sep 18, 2022, Instructions for Life: Pentateuch & Wisdom Literature class, LSTC.
What a great subject and opportunity to have had a more dynamic conversation and level up the shows reach by having a representative of that ethnic culture as a 1st hand witness of this topic.
9:02 - The answer to that question is a resounding, yes. Indian parents, in most cases, would most likely allow their child to marry a white American. Somehow their "non-racist" code of exclusion tends to target non-whites, specifically blacks. When given a chance to inject [fairness/whiteness] into their bloodlines, from a Euro source. They tend to jump at the opportunity.
Yes, because the Whyte race is on top, and are seen as powerful. Therefore, they will make the exception. Also, their kids will not have undesirable features and dark skin.
@@karinazrzu - And "undesirable features" and dark skin belong to the Indians. So, the question they must ask themselves, is at what point did your own skin color and features become "undesirable"? It is a weakness to reject who you are, in an attempt to morph into your false gods (white Europeans).
When I was young living in Tennessee, I’m 74 now, and before Integration I believe there was more Love in the Black community for each other. It’s worse now between Blacks, especially between the Young & the Old, between men & women. The destruction of the Black family is apparent in 2023, mothers teaching their daughters to be independent, men seeking out of desperation to find a wife having to go outside of their race.
True. Integration contributed greatly to the divisions that we see today among Black folks in the United States. The Brown Supreme Court decision was 69 years ago and that was a major factor in starting the decline. The Swann decision was 52 years ago and that helped to expedite the decline. It’s probably going to take a miracle to reverse these divisions among us Black folks.
The culture is very complex guys, its so complex that even most indians don't understand the true meaning of all the practices and rituals in this country. Its easier for people to break into a western culture where the values are liberal and it changes from time to time, but india is a civilisation in itself. Its really hard for an indian to relate with an outsider and an outsider to be part of the indian culture. Amd its very different for different states and regions in india. Its like a continent within a country because its hard for an indian from the southern oart to merge into an eastern part of india because the ethnicity is different, lifestyle is different, values, beliefs religions, tribes everything is different but there is a binding factor of patriotism in peoples minds which is invisible even if its not apprent. Even if you travel with in india its like travelling to a different country because its so different which us why the culture is very hard to crack into for an outsider. Its nobody's fault but these liberal values of acceptance and equality is reasonably accepted its not like they accept you as one of their own and you add into that this country has never had a truth and reconciliation process like it happened in africa, so generations of trauma and exploitation and history by outsiders is still left untouched by this country and this whole love for white or fair skin is a product of that, even if most of south and middle india is dark brown or black skin people who are majority.
And how about the movie Mississippi masala with Denzel Washington when he was in love with a Indian girl in the family did not want him with her because he was black
My Chinese friend told me that when considering a husband he must be able to support his wife and future children. He should be able to purchase a house.
The Indians are the same in Caribbean, their is dougla ,small intermarriage but they not messing with black either especially once they come to NYC, American they get away from black
Regarding faith, a friend of mine is a muslim, and her first daughter met a guy who is Christian, her mother refused for them to get married and they've had three children her mother refused to accept this good man. The second daughter met and married this Muslim guy. A big wedding was done now. The guy family has married a second wife for him. Her daughter has three children, boys and a girl. Now, the first daughter was married by proxy in a registery back home she is happy as a Christian wife. She changed to a Christian in England. Her husband is a highly paid teacher. The second daughter is now suffering as a Muslim wife in her marriage, that her parents preferred, midwife as a profession.
The real question is ...why don't black people practice the same exclusionary customs as other people? We want everybody to love us , when we don't even love ourselves.
Yup
low collective self esteem
Trauma
Lack of collective and well defined identity
@Mark Simmons Your post is the best explained. Why don't Black people practice the same. Also, we want everybody to love us, when we don't even love ourselves.. If a people don't love themselves, why should they expect for anyone else to love them?
We won’t get any respect from any other groups until we build ourselves up
Which will never !happen
This is a lie, you won't get respect no matter what you do, and if you respect yourself you shouldn't need other peoples respect or acceptance.
Thank you.
Sooo Rright !!
Ask that to those rappers, AAs in Hollywood and NBA players
I'm originally Indian, engaged to an original African, with both our parents support and blessings. Things could be moving on 🙏😊.
You are the exception, not the rule
Thanks, isn't such usually the start of change? Anyone could presume 😊
Ew
@@notadragontype7496 not a bother 😆
Where is he from@@aikishtar
I was engaged to an Indian woman whose parents didn't know she was even dating a black man. Once they found out, they threatened she would be disowned if she continued dating me. She didn't want ro be disowned so she broke off the engagement. Year's later she got married to a white man and the family was celebrating like it was a new year's Eve party. I've seen this time and time again. Yes, they want them ro marry their own BUT they would rather have their children marry a white person than a black person!
They love the white skin it’s that simple
I’ve seen this with Indians and Chinese. White or their own is best to them
@@djm1613 Good point
@@gibson2675 they have a real self hate damn near feel sorry for them
Yeah they are funny acting they are just as dark as us but will kiss the WM's rear in a second.
As a black person, I fully support Indians marrying within their race and so should we. Each race should marry its own. Black people should stop this nonsense of trying to get accepted and marrying outside their race.
Right. There is absolutely no issue with these ethnic groups preferring their own. Who else is going to keep their ethnicity going strong except them? 🤷🏾♀️
Then you fully support incest, rape, prostitution, pedophilia and passing on genetic disorders.
🙌🏾 agree
I heard Indians prefer white men
It should never be about “trying to be accepted”. It should be about making a decision about what’s right for you. If you find a good person with similar values, morals and education and he/she happens to be outside of your race then so be it. Why are we trying to normalize racism?
The problem is focusing on the wrong things. Who GAF about what some other people think about you. Nobody has time for people whose minds are clouded with the fear and ignorance of bigotry or prejudice. Be about your purpose. Raise your standards of excellence. Reach for the highest status after all that's what's respected worldwide. Ask yourself, are they worthy of your time and effort, especially considering what invaluable assets (both in character and commerce) that you possess. Concede nothing without a demand. Let them wonder if You will find them acceptable. Make yourself the prize.
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Damn as an Indian i found ur comment that's truly a man representing his origin...i can see u had good parents and they taught how to respect others and eventually respect ur own self.
This is not Bigotry. A Father who cares for his daughter would want her to be their own kind. I really don't understand why someone has to be with people of different races, what's wrong with your black woman.
Respect Your Self.
Build The Black Community Structure
Hahahhaa when elephants dance to hip hop!!
Thats right
@user-sr4we2vn7q 😂 Agree. Not when every Afriacan Americans who makes it big has to marry a Caucasian, Latinas or mixed race . Ask those NBA players, AAs in Hollywood and rappers
@@xena6894 you mean “black Americans”? And maybe if more of our wine acted more civilized we wouldn’t have to do that.
@user-sr4we2vn7q Yes I meant you AAs. Your wine? I bet you meant your women . But remember they act the same like you guys. They're your sisters, neighnours , cousins ,part of your communities. So do you think mean men act better than women? While they hail from the same education , families , neigbhourhoods? That's very demeaning to your own people. Remember those whi.tes even mock you that you don't date your own ( propably mudsharks , but not all). Anyone who make it big go chasing white girls. Then you men go around crying about ra.cism while you have that inferiority complex in yourself
Oshay hit nail on the head... You gotta prefer yourself. My cousin was in a relationship with a woman from a west/south asian group and after 2 ½ years of trying to appease her family he broke it off with her. He said he got tired of trying to show them that he was a *"Good Black."* It took longer than I would have liked, but I was glad when him made the decision. You shouldn't have to justify ethnic identity just to be with someone. B1
🤣🤣 serves him right
They were draining his pockets and he got tired of working hard to impress them.
@BakangSerame you're most definitely a bitter woman
Did he end up marrying a black woman?
That’s hilarious. I’m not even trying to prove or showcase I’m worthy here in the U.S., let alone abroad. My mentality, do me selfishly….
Indians are themselves are diverse and black men especially need to value their black women
Vice versa
As a Indian man, I wouldn't marry a African American woman even if you paid me a million dollars a year, provided me with a house, car, all the sports channels, all the bbq, beer and holidays I want and told I never have to work for the rest of my life. I'm not racist, I do not like the attitudes of African American women. I prefer my women to be feminine, soft, warm, comforting with the voice and tone to match, loyalty and most importantly is knowing when to be quiet. I am single and I don't need your million dollar a year. I plan to stay this way till I die. I have plans for my retirement in 10 years in Asia.
@@MathayusTheMedjayBeen doing it all our lives when black men didn’t even deserve it
@@oneonly215 We as black ppl need to value each other and stop all the violence against one another that’s the problem
Once you understand the Indian Caste system and colorism/racism within their communities, you will conclude that their behaviour is based on racism
100%
Yet black guys want to date them. U guys ARE ONES DATING N MARRYING OUT. U GUYS DONT LIKE BEING DARK SKIN BLACK
But it still doesn’t make sense best their caste system is based on skin tone not race because they are all the same race. It’s Indians with darker skin. Involving an African into that conversation doesn’t make sense because they are of a different rave and culture. It’s like saying a white man can go to India and now everyone must work for him he will have the best of everything even though he is a completely different race and culture.
@@HdHd-hp6qz so why r african men trying to date indian women? Indian men aint marrying dark skin black women. DARK SKIN BLK GUY HAS SERVE SELF HATE
No it's not.
Putting your people above others is self preservation the first law of Nature.
But evolution involves gene mixing.
Alot of our people don't believe in that
Self preservation typically leads to imperialism, colonialism, and nationalism. Eventually these 3 things combined with new technologies and nuclear weapons will lead to extermination of the human race. Self preservation was fine when we all only had sticks and stones. Self preservation is no longer the answer!
Black people don't know nothing about self preservation. It doesn't matter if it's in the US, Caribbean, Europe or the the continent of Africa, selling each other out is the black way! In every single one of these communities there are black people who wont hesitate to sell each other out for the approval of non black people!
Real talk brother
As an Indian man, there are many layers within the indian culture when dating/marrying outside of their race. Now I have seen relationships between Indian girls with black men and each of them ended up having a child and now they are single. This isn't even a race thing, this has become a cultural.
I know black people that strongly believe in the family unit which aligns to traditional indian values however the western influence where a family unit is not priority and parents fear their child will be a single mother where the child has no father to raise and protect them. This is why stereo types plays such a huge part in why its frowned upon. I don't subscribe to all the indian traditional views but I understand why. This isn't a straight forward subject where it's purely based on racism. Indians have been racist to themselves with the caste system.
But I have dated a black woman in the past and I love women regardless of their colour or culture. It comes down to culture more than colour imo.
When you speak Western will be USA, ask a SPanish or Italian Families are something of supreme importance even 60 and 70 years ago. Society were conservatives women couldn´t drive cars or even open a bank account by themselves needed the father consent. Please when you speak Western there are much countries in Europe not only USA. We are not all the same. As you said there are much layers to the WESTERN word. South countries are more similar to India in family oriented values, society evolve with time but we are not ignorant and not libertine or loose. I live in Spain and i know how difficult women had it here.
I am Indian punjabi, my cousin married to African woman and they have 3 kids,,,,,and planing for more😊
@@086wolfusually it’s a better outcome marrying a black/African woman
If you look at Caribbean, we can see inter racial marriages once cultural bridges are made, or cultures overlap and merge. I certainly think some understand of other’s values make an impact. I have seen educated Kenyans and Nigerians have strong ambition and family orientation which will fit very well with Indians but there is not wide awareness of it. In last few decades growing interaction of Indians in the west made the latter accept whites more. But stereo types of indisciplined black man still persist. Need to see more educated black men. I think Nigerian and Kenyan black men and women will probably the first ones Indians can easily relate to and connect.
@@girisha_laxmi11 where women cant drive or open a back account? May be I misunderstood u but are u trying to show that as something good? I dont think that is something to be proud of. In India women have all legal rights since the begining of independence so no we do not advocate for such things.
One thing I can say is that being a Black Man is really tough and it's Good we are blessed with the most mental and physical strength
Thats why I could never marry out or breed out .
U are also blessed in an other department...... and this people are very insecure and jelouse about that. Stay stong king🌺
I don’t see anything tough about being a black man.
It’s you black men that cannot freaking stay in one place. You black men think dating out of your race is a big deal. Then when you get smack disrespected with rejection, y’all wanna cry wolf. Just marry your own, not that hard.😅
Seen Indian girls openly date white guys,but have to hide when dating black guys.
In my life time I've seen whites attack Indians chase them ridicule them. But they will secretly despise black people.
It's particularly insulting when these groups live in Africa and behaviour this way.
Why are we always talking about marrying some other race? I literally don't want to be with a woman, with whom I make a financial pact through marriage, that isn't Black.
Blk folk pushing interacial couples for some reason.
Maybe not black American but it surely happens on the African continent.
These guys only feel accepted if you allow them to sleep with your daughters its all about access to sex
@Tantan the only thing I said is that you dont necessarily have to make a financial pact with black American women, what's wrong with that?
Agreed!
I am so blessed and proud to be black. Each day I live I get to love my black skin even more. I see the lengths people are prepared to go to just to prevent their kids from dating or marrying a black person. I have never seen a black person go drastic just to stop their black child dating out of race. We know true love and are a very tolerant people. Racist we are not and thats why we are hated out of pure envy and jealousy. Hate us but want to be so like us 😂.
BLACK GUYS R MAIN ONES DATING OUT.. u guys dont like being black
It’s sad how whenever I see a comment like this, very few black people don’t click yes. There is so much self hatred among black people.
100%
@@kem1233 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 no your right they are the main one's doing but to safe face they'll get online & lie
@@NovemberReigne its mainly coming from the males. They r main ones dating out n breeding themselves out
Who cares yo if they wanna date you or not who gives a flying ???? That's our problem we are always worrying about the wrong shit!
All these pro blacks do on here is bitch and moan and crying about who want us or not. Because interracial relationships are a big topic that they just can't shut up about because this is how they make their money like that clown umar johnson. If they can just do their own research you can clearly see indian women marrying bm in american. But people are too damn ignorant and stupid and just wanna generalize a whole group of people and just race baiting. I hate black folks and I hate the bitching and moaning
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This stupid comment, supports how correct what they are saying is.
dam right
The message is loud and Clear: Unite, and love your own!!!
Absolutely
Stop looking for acceptance from others
And love yourself
Our men need to be with their own women
We concerntrate on everything but ourselves.....that is the problem. My great grand ma is Indian, I've mixed Ugandan and Indian uncles, aunties, etc. We have to stop concerntrating on anything that doesn't include pooling funds and building in Africa. We are social pigeons with no institutional financial huge contributions toward our own strategical building.
You guys are way more accepted than us black Americans. The title should have been about why Indian women can’t marry black American men.
@@Jon-p4g hmmm, I don't think those that do see it like that care about what type of black person they disapprove of.....
@@RPNDWORLDWIDE just look on UA-cam. When you look up black and Indian wedding they are all Africans. That’s because the are the exception to the rule. I have heard immigrants say that their parents told them to stay away from blacks in America, even Africans look down on us. We just have a bad reputation in general.
@@Jon-p4g You are the blue blooded Maroon royal household of African nations, and the Lord has made you shine in all your splendour regardless of what others think of you. You shall always be a guide and leaders of nations as the Lord stated, either to guide for better or to guide for worse. We all want to copy the style, speech, and culture of black Americans. Fuck what others say and think, give me my black American sister and I will marry her and make her proud. The elders fall for the okeedoke but the younger generations all know
@@Jon-p4g can u name one great man of ur culture that dont have dark history with women...we indian have a lot...like buddha,mahavira and more..can name one people from ur culture?
Their culture is extremely different than ours. We don't have the same beliefs and customs at all. African (black) people have different beliefs. Especially those that are not Christian or Muslims. I don't think it would ever, ever work unless you grew up in their country and really understood the differences. You can't just marry everyone. Even within ourselves it's already complicated. I wouldn't want to complicate things even more. It's a very strong pass for me and my entire family.
Absolutely
You people mixing relationship and culture is two different things I’m a boy you’re a girl let’s date plain and simple
What is black culture? It is not even a thing. Black is a color.
Yet they have no problem marrying white peole🤷🏽♀️
Man listen….I can walk past an Indian woman and won’t bat an eye, I can recognize there beauty but at the same time keep my distance
In India marriage is very complex. It isn't just about race (either white or black) or religion. It is also about communities and also within communities, you cannot marry someone closely related (from both parents' sides in order to restrict any level of incest). After you satisfy these criteria, you also match the janam kundili (a Hindu birth certificate detailing the constellation at the time of birth) so to marry, they also match these constellations. Finally, marriages in India are for life and it is like two families get bonded for ever.
Thank you for sharing. Noticed they generally go for STEM subject areas!!
exactly. Even in Hinduism "gotra" plays a vital role. Same gotra means relation of brother n sister dn can't marry.
I disagree- Asians in general -but Indians in particular bring the religion in when it suits them- especially when it is a Black person but it is okay to marry a White person who is not of the same religion- it’s definitely colourism - aiming for beige offspring🤦🏽♀️
In south they marry withing family expect blood sister and brother
Bonded for life !! sounds very interesting and rich .. if this attitude is still in place then it's ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
It is not at racist at all.
Personally, i will never marry outside my race.
Yes it is
@@keithdavid1544 Forcing people to like you? It's a weak mentality and a victimized one at that
@@Truth-Reality. Forcing your rhetoric amoungs people is selfish behavior and racist
Who is finding them attractive in the first place?
Lmao
Right.
I said the same thing it’s not a flex.
LMBO
you are bugging on that They got some 🎂 🎂
It's not about black per se. It's more about marrying someone with similar background for a successful alliance or marriage. Education, culture, religion, job/income, values like respect for elders, hard work, and so on. Indians pass on this behavior to each generation.
So we are ignoring the caste system values and prejudice against dark skin?
That’s a great point and black ppl don’t really have a culture
C'mon I'm an indian too and fair skinned indians do have more value in the s3xuaI market....so obvious
@@FireoftheRedSun55 you don't know sh*t about these things, just know that we perceive ⚪ as more appealing...and not just us but everyone...
@@meIanchoIiaWhy white and not light brown/light tan like most Indians are?
Most Indians are just as melanated as Africans, and for the most part, they are very respectful towards us. It's not "racist" if they refuse to marry us since they are a very cultured people who have kept their cultures despite colonialism, war, etc. I think it's ought to be respected, and it's also NATURAL. Most cultures/ethnicites are homogenous.
Disagree, a lot of them can be very self-hating and can be racist and prejudice towards Black people. (Caste system says it all.)
Self preservation is paramount
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I agree
❤ My mother is Indian from Kenya, she always spoke fondly of Kenya and the people.
I’m from Liberia 🇱🇷 in West Africa. My brother have been marry to a Indian woman and have two children for more than 30 years. When my brother met her she was successful and had more than my brother. It depends where you grew up! Europe or America 🇺🇸. I can’t say how her parents thought about my brother, but she loves him. I love black love, but every one have to make their own choices!
Of course there are lots of Indians and black unions but that’s not the norm. That’s the main topic. There’s nothing wrong people protecting their bloodlines. I’m not mad at Indians for sticking to their own. Black people need to stay on the same code. That’s how you build your community and stay in power. Whites have been doing it for hundreds of years and that’s why they control everyone Asians are doing it too.
You just proved their point, she probably got disowned by her parents. There are Indians who will deal with Blacks, but their families often do not approve.
@@ObaOrishaExactly! Someone cannot comprehend what the panel is saying.
My Liberian friend! Greetings! Let’s connect on Instagram or Facebook based on my name
Like it or not, these relationships happen, especially in UK, Indian/Jamaican couples, our friend is Jamaican/Pakistani...😊
Love ourselves, nobody’s coming to save us but us
Even as a purely defensive measure, given that we have to live in a world with these other hostile groups, we need to organize
That will never happen, lack of discipline and self hate.
@@davew4930Marcus Garvey, Elijah Mohammed, and Ida B Wells show that Blacks can come together and organise. Never say it's impossible.
How they’re hostile? Because they don’t want to marry you? 😂😂😂blacks are more hostile than any other race.
Listen, at the core of the argument, I have no issues. The question is why don’t WE (Black/African diaspora) think and behave similarly? Why this need to integrate or assimilate? Lets prioritize ourselves. Just as long as there aren’t intentional effort to oppress others because you deem yourself superior, we’re good. Good fences make good neighbors.
Cos we at the bottom economically and militarily. Nobody wants a loser
Black men want to integrate the most
@@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993we werent always at the bottom we can win if bm don’t run away
The most desired group on Earth, the most powerful group, you don't say 😱🙄🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Because they look and have been told you as blk man have nothing. And do not build or build up your blk community's. The blk man has did this to him self till you only think about self and not community. The only group of men who don't care about there own and think they can do better dating or marrying some other race of women. But building for other races communities.
The movie Mississippi Masala realistically addressed this topic. It was based on a true story starring Denzel Washington falling in love with an Indian girl who moved to Mississippi from Uganda. The movie touched on multiple subjects dealing with interracial relationships within different cultures.
Why do we always need an exclusive expose on who isn’t dating blacks and why we don’t fucking care! I’m fine with dating my own race and could care less if some foreigner finds me attractive
Black men care. they’re always crying about not having access to other races
Hel loooo
Exactly, sis! I don’t understand why many black podcasts focus so much on this nonsense. How about topics and discussions on how we can love and uplift ourselves and each other?
How about topics on how to become a powerful group🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️..always talking useless ish
@@shaani7978 thank you!!! We need to focus on things that matter! I appreciate you and am glad that you feel the same way
Speaking as someone who is classified as 'Black American', too many African/Africoid/Indigenous Black American people seem to be caught up marrying into another race of people and into another culture. And increasing numbers of Black men in particular seem to be too eager to marry women that are not of their same cultural/ethnic background. We don't want to admit it, but many of us are not pleased with the physical characteristics we have amongst ourselves. Note that when Black people, especially men, marry outside the culture/race, they're aiming for women with lighter skin and relatively straighter hair. They're not trying to build families with people who are unmistakably Black/Black African in appearance. Let's face it - we're considered a sorry bunch because too many of us are too desperate to be accepted by ANYONE else, and we don't respect and honor ourselves to the same high degree that other groups of people respect and honor themselves. We have to re-learn to be pleased with how the Creator made us, and be willing to share that love and admiration with others who mirror us in appearance and behavior.
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Yes, the decolonization of the Black mindset must happen or else we're done for. I only disagree with you in terms of dating out of our "culture". My unmistakably, Black fiancée is from Brazil and has a different culture, but I speak her language (Portuguese), eat her foods and I know her history and traditions, many of which are African rooted. I'm teaching her English, African-American history, I play African-American music in the house and cook our foods and the cultural exchange works totally fine.
@@skatebordstephenHer foods are "African rooted?" That's as close an association as many Black American want with Africa when it comes to women they are willing to sacrifice for.
When it comes to self hate no one does better than negroes.
Visit the Dominican Republic, where many blacks disown their blackness and try to marry a light skinned person.
Now, this conversation matters and great thoughts shared! We need to create our own thriving communities and circulate our dollars within our communities. If we change our mindset, watch our progression. What we don’t understand is when we marry one another and build wealth together it produces generational impactful differences. Oshay, you spot on with your comments on this relevant topic!
The problem in America is not that you're not building community. The problem is that you're binding those communities through poverty and desperation as opposed to family and culture. As a result, these communities don't succeed on a socioeconomic level, thereby raising the entire race. The Asians and the Indians have perfected this.
They don't deal with gentrification in their country....
We taking about Africa.
@@CapricornDayzwho said so ? 😊 third world gentrification is accepted.
I'm Indian and let me tell you our parents feel the EXACT same way about white people as well. I wanted to marry a white girl and my whole family told me that I could marry her but I would be disowned. 10 years later, now I'm married to a indian girl, someone of my own community and have 3 amazing children and I thank my family from stopping me from diluting my bloodline and my culture. Having said that the African woman in this video is very beautiful!
Not really, I’m Indian and I know my family would accept a white person over black. It’s really sad but the south Asian community would always prefer lighter skinned person over black skinned
@@InayahChoudhury-ms9zxwhat's wrong with that?! Why should we be forced to love a particular community
@@InayahChoudhury-ms9zxnothing wrong in having a Preference. And it’s not all about skin colour but also about race. Whites and Indians are both Caucasoid racially.
@@ManabDasiammanabtake yogi u.p he was mongoliod.he don't have aryan face.while in india some brown people have aryan skull structure features but skin brown.they are called Archaic aryans.
My mum and dad both came from saint vincent & the grenadines He was Carribean indian and mum was carribean african ,they were married over 50 years. My dads cousin was carribean indian from saint vincent and his wife was carrubean affrican from barbados. They too were married for a very long time . The carribean and America are very different
Very true, however, in those times, marrying an Indian Woman was considered a "step up" from marrying a Black Woman...
@@lunalea1250 Thank you for your reply. I agree with you . However in 2023 I see it this way. Their are no black or white people. African americans / caribeans / caribean british /african ( not nort african) are all different shades of brown. Europeans are all different shades of pink Doubt me ? Compare tins of black and white paint to skin colours mentioned.
Ur very welcome & happy ur the child of such a long lasting union!🥳 Well, yes & no to colour, just go in any hardware store & u will find Berger, Sherwin Williams, Behr paint in " every colour of the 🌈 colour, ethnicity & nationality are all different... did u know lots of people named DaSilva, DaCosta were Jews who were chased out/ran away from Chile, Portugal & spain, went to Caribbean Islands including Jamaica & Cuba, our history is very complex?🌍🤔👀📚
If Im being honest, I can understand why other races would be particularly worried if their kid brought home a Black person to marry. No one wants their kid to marry into a community that has such a high level of self hate ( so many Black folk dont even want to deal with each other). Also, look at the conditions of most Black communities around the world. No parent in their right mind would want their kid to feel the lack of community support and broken down social network that the Black community shows daily. It is maddening that Black communities are in the state they are in. It wreaks of instability and danger. Yes, racism exists too, but it isnt the reason for all of what is going on in the Black community.
This is very true. Its not about stereotypes and racism. Many of these groups have first hand experience with black people and the black community. The rates of single parenthood in the black community is enough of an issue. Tradition Indians do not play like that and divorce is highly frowned upon. They do not have a baby mama culture like we do.
Evil Klu Klux Klan white Americans are 100% responsible for the condition that black Americans are in.
*You strongly agree with me right?*
Mass shootings are by who?........
Suburban schools are scary 😅
The only time we black people going to get respect from others races..is when we start respect ourselves
@@jamaicanafricantravels4064 really!!
Do white "mass shooters respect other white people?......😎
I had a Indian friend who had a arranged marriage with a guy, but she didn't want to marry him .....she like me very much and I am black ...but I passed on it ..I love my black sistas to much.
Right.... Or maybe men are realizing that the sistas are leaving. Or at least the good ones are and they are getting the bad batch from other races like Christian Obumseli. Sorry, if a man has to go this hard to display "he loves the sistas"... well, you guys already fucked up making us second guess you.
If I was you I would've snatched her up.
Excellent decision
Thank you for the love. We love yall too 💗
I am not into interracial marriage because it does cause a lot of problems when children grow up I prefer my black men less hassle. ❤
Keep this in Mind my fellow Afrcans we have never got friends and will never have one because the historical evidence is clear : You're the Alpha and Omega no matter what ! Stay put the children of Jacob . A word to the wise is enough . You are the Universe.
No one has friends, all ethnicities across the planet are constantly fighting over trivial nonsense including us Africans. Humans fight amongst each other instead of working together that's just how it is. Black People fight Black People, Whites fight Whites, Blacks and Whites fight and so on. None of this ends until we all work together. All humans across the planet are the universe and until we wake up to that truth we will continue to bring each other down. We're better off united than divided.
Exactly
We have Marxist friends round the world
We are Israelites not africans
Just beautiful 😍 💫✨️🏹👑💙💜🙏
This here is the conversation we black people need to converse regularly until we get the value of it. We black people in this modern time doesn't talk about this issue at all, the urge to assimilate into other race is ubiquitous. Sticking to your own race is all about race loyalty not racism, racism is something totally different. Every race is loyal to their own kind except for black people, which to me personally is a curse for us blacks. Racism is when one race uses their power and authority to deny other race their right to prosper, live or survive. 😎💯💪🏾✊🏾
BP need to learn how to debate properly. It's always trash talking, with everyone talking over each other and a lack of critical thinking.
When I was growing up in the US, I remember learning about arranged marriages. I felt so happy that I would never have to deal with that. We are indoctrinated to believe that is oppressive, and people should just be free to do whatever they want. Now, I am the mother of a teenager. There is no way I would allow my son to pick a wife without offering my wisdom. Looking back, I wish my family could have been more involved in my relationships, vetting the men I dated. I probably would have had less heartache and wasted time. Arranged marriages have a bad name among common folk, but all people who are looking to build generation wealth do it. Those people are perfectly OK with those in the lower level of society mixing it up because without unity, there is no power. Now, most parents in the US feel out of place telling their adult kids who to marry. I suggest that we have a relationship vetting service to help our people, especially our women, with selecting a husband. Not just match making but actually vetting whereby both people are subjected to the same invasive scrutiny an Indian would have to go through to marry another Indian. Being Indian is only a prerequisite. Beyond that, there is more vetting into his family, his cousins, is anyone crazy on his mother side😅 Yeah, that's all useful information.
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The US have a different culture that is predominantly European norms. Others come to the US, but they don't give up their cultural norms.
I am sooo glad you said this. Look at the confusion that the American population at large is going through with the breakdown of relationships between men and women at large. The proliferation of Black male/female relationship forums is out of control. Those platforms (TV shoes, social media streams) are using the breakdown of relationships between Black people as entertainment. We would be facing so much less confusion and be able to meet on the same page more easily if we had a body of shared cultural norms and values that we respected at all costs. It used to be that way with Black Americans. Looks like we'd better get back to it.
@@kathym8453they would say they're independent n it's free speech so no one should tell them what to do or say, everyone is proud of trying to show who is wiser that the other etc
I think even some African cultures have a tradition of arranged marriage, am I right. Lots of times two people are paired up by their elders in their respective churches and mosques.
Why are Black people so upset with "Why Indians Refuse to Marry Black People", or any other race of people for that matter. My point is that "Why can't we be as much into our race as other races of people are into theirs". I could care zero 0% about any other race, and even members of the Black race who would not want to have a relationship with me. To me its about whoever finds me, and If I accept it. We all have to learn how to love ourselves....
Indian men are marrying Ugandan women
@@connectronald4720nigerian men too are marrying indian women
@@ankurkashyap4400where? You
Mean for survival. 😂 because they always have a real wife back home. 😂
Honestly it’s black men who wants every race of women to want them. As a black woman, I could care less about what religion or culture doesn’t accept me. These dudes wanna be accepted by everyone and love their women but hate their women. It’s comical and delusional
@user-rl7mt4gh3oDude are you serious???Indians will die rather than putting their culture down...Arabs tried it,British tried it,Buddhist tried it,Jainism preachers tried it for 1500 years But no one is able to change culture of India... It's still a hindu majority country and forever be
I'm an Indian man married to a woman of my caste and we have nothing against any race or religion or culture. However, our parents in majority case are traditional and we have to follow a lot of boundaries because of them.
Baniya bro👍🏻
it is not a thing of proud bro this is casteism our parents have forced on us@@Nitish.Singhal
@@raviagarwal6492 it is clan/ tribe thing.... You think this is caste 🤣🤣🤣
@@raviagarwal6492 if you are so ashamed then pls change your name as well...
how would that change anything. It is the mindset that leads to these things not name@@Nitish.Singhal
You have to love yourself before you can love others. But you have to be real and know when it's time to move on.
I love myself and I chose to love others as well!
The whole point of the conversation is that the Indians ,other Asians and Europeans are building there nations and they put that first.Those people never wanted a mixed race nation.Religious customs are different and will be important in a marriage.The vast majority of Indians are Hindu and other non-Christian religions.
If they didn't t want a mixed children than they should ve thought of that from day one slavery days up to breeding slaves etc. Why hate on the children who were brought in2 this world without their consent. Greed nd love of money brought the unwanted mixed children, GOD IS WATCHING. MIXED RACE ARE EVERYONE S FOOTBALL
as someone with a father from India and a mother from Jamaica.. there are parts of my Indian heritage I relate to, however, there’s always been an underlying divide within the family :/
Indian father tried to make an educated professional out of u. U rebelled and went into show biz. Try bollywood or telugu film industry. 😊
@@aryayashwantmehta wait, how did you guess this?
He's taking a piss on you don't mind him😂.
U r pretty tho@@meelahmak
It's not ever easy marrying outside your race, hard enough marrying within your own race.
@user-rl7mt4gh3omaybe in a perfect world ,but we all know that it isn’t a perfect world we are living in
@user-rl7mt4gh3o You're delusional.
@user-rl7mt4gh3ohonest question, why? Not trying to be combative or anything but why would do you think that’s a good thing?
@Aarondigby5054. You mean, human race. Bruh, stop it already 😢.
Besides, Indians & Chinese have an inferiority towards white people, as such there is no pushback against marrying whites from these cultures/Asians 🙄
I don't quite totally agree with the host. This is similar to what the black Americans are complaining about when Africans come to the USA and kinda avoid them. Africans as much as Asians often have a strong sense of community. There is too much diversity within the black community and often we haven't been able to band together as a group and leverage that power to affect many things like the asians
Black Americans don't care about Africans "avoiding them". The issue is many African/Caribbeans come to the USA and start parroting white supremacist talking points and undermining Black American agendas. Or disrespecting our culture and historical icons. Asians, Arabs, and Hispanics don't do that to each other.
No, black americans are very undiplomatic and rude,Indians are colourist in the own community. Afrophobia is worldwide and if you are of african descent you will be affected.
Black Americans lack culture. Culture is what binds people together. Culture being a common belief in GOD and an adherence to the code of ethics dictated by GOD. Just having a similar appearance is not enough.
@@karinazrzu AFRICAN WOMEN ARE GORGEOUS! I DO NOT SEE "UNDESIRABLE " ANYTHING ON THEM!.....
It's because they have their own culture
I LOVED THIS CONVERSATION!!! YOU GOT A SUB!!
I wouldn't want to be with an Indian woman neither so im not mad at them for not wanting to mess with us like that. I do well with my own women anyways. Us melaninated people should be the same way towards other races and stick to our own during relations and business relations for the community. BUT unfortunately too many of us need acceptance from other races and having self hate issues, one of many reasons why we can't get right. But i still hope for the day for us to come on top for once over other races but in the meantime is just wishful thinking..
Yo deontay you know you still have brothers have a hard or difficult time trying to find a sista like myself I have never been with a black woman and I'm 37 years old
But a White or Hispanic will do?
@@mandyb6414😂😂😂
We are the most loving self absorbed people on the planet. It borders on narcissism. Instead of "self love" we should view others as competitors to try to do better with our communities in diaspora
Absolute facts! The lady was right not to disrespect her parents. It is not racism, but cultural traditions, BP are just hurt, because others don’t think like them.
Indian people are very loyal and loves their people and wants a stong Indian bloodline Its like a Majestic Bald Eagle I have never saw a Majestic Bald Eagle mate with a crow When you love your people You dont flee from your people You are very loyal to your people
Mate with a crow. If anything it's a higher better gene carrying eagle 🤣
@@cjh6678 I never or I don't believe I will never see a Majestic Bald Eagle mate with a crow The Majestic Bald Eagle has to much LOYALTY and RESPECT for their own species and wants a very strong bloodline
@@CharlesTerrebonne-d5m strong blood line😂. Whatever you need to tell yourselves. Blood line weak as hell like Indian men are.
@@CharlesTerrebonne-d5m love u bro...and this idiot doesnt even respect his own culture how he cant respect u??
Well, black folks need to do the same thing! Stick within our race! But no, we want intermingle and be friends with everyone who isn't black
Straight facts
Ancient years too late in regard to intermingling and race ancient years ago had nothing to do with the pigmentation of the skin. Ppl ancient years ago were forbidden to mix their blood with ppl that were byproducts of illicit and forbidden blood unions such as incest, adultery, rape or any other deviant behavior that was a selfish act.
The comment section on this channel proves that if pale skinned ppl didn't exist, the "dark races" consisting of many ethnicities would still be indifferent/vain, hostile and competitive towards one another. The Europeans/Caucasians belief system just brought out behaviors and attitudes in the indigenous ppl that was already dormant within them. When ppl begin to look beyond the pigment of the skin, they will soon realize that the battle is really with the spirit/souls of ppl in general.
So the whole world can keep up with the wars? You think more division is the answer?
@@TheSaintwrestler904 Wanting to be around your own people does not equate wars and division. It's only division when black people do it but none of you rainbow folks say anything when Asians or white people do it.
Gabs is always on point! NEVER dilute your bloodline! The "Black" bloodline is majestic. We are the mothers and fathers of humanity...What is wrong with us man??? I'm so sick of seeing black footballers, and wealthy black athletes, and business men, and women for that matter, marrying non-black spouses. Giving that amassed wealth back to groups of people who already despise us! Build up your own women! I respect tribal traditions, but he way I see it, as long as the person is black it's ok to marry them if the two can make their cultural differences work...Oshay is point too, by the way! Black folks HAVE to stop seeking validation from people who already hate us. And every group hates, and steps on black people.
Agreed!
I concur
#hitlervibes
If more black women acted more civilized and didn’t act so masculine, we would have to go outside of our race. I am totally for mixing the black blood! It needs to be diluted. We are , and will forever be viewed as the damned race. If we were really that valuable and and kings and queens, the Africans would have never sold us.
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They understand the importance of a pure bloodline. They are protecting their lineage. Black people hate themselves so much they want to force other people to accept them when they don’t accept themselves. I love Indian people and their culture.
Agreed with Blck people part
We are the only race who doesn't have survival instinct to mingle in priority with their own. We loose so many good, intelligent men to other communities. This is looking our generational wealth. At this rate, we are going to lose everything
I never even looked at them in that manner and thanks for not wanting me!! Thank You!!! Feelings mutual!
Good preserve the bloodline. Stick to your multiple baby mama culture. Indians do do that
The Answer To All These Question Was As Simple As This Indians And African People Have Different Cultures, This Has Nothing To Do With Race. I Like How People Like To Make Everything About Themselves When It's Have Nothing To Do With Them.
Marriages are between families and by extension, they are also between the race or the races,that the families belong to, and some families prefer that their son or daughter marry someone of their own race, and that's not racist, it's called freedom of choice and freedom of association, which every human being on this earth, is entitled to
If your coercing another human to marry who YOU want the to that's not freedom of choice or association for them.
@@lordnyko1860 its only u black men who think like that everyone else only cares for there own
@@lordnyko1860I disagree. It's preserving one's own bloodline
@@redsak5311 so it's not coercion or lack of choice for the other person? You seem to have disregarded my point so not sure what you're disagreeing with
@@lordnyko1860 Lack of choice versus what? Diluting your bloodline? Interrupting long held cultural norms? It is being weighted against something. And one of them is greater.
Mary a black african woman ❤😮 our women are cute, sexy and intelligent.
I'm married to a black woman . If we break up ! I'm going right back to a black woman. They need us.
Thank you for this video: I was just thinking about this very topic yesterday.
Indians are the top earners in America. I always wondered how many African-Americans marry Indians as I hardly ever see any couples of that dynamic.
(I was born and raised In Maryland)
Are you sure? The government says the same thing about the Nigerians in America. Also, Indians are softer to the palates of White people because of the shortage of science orientedly train workers back in the early days of Silicone Valley with technology boom. However, the White have preferred the light, closer to White looking Asian, like the Chinese women. The fact is the average "Joe Blow" Indian men and women in the US and India desire is to marry a White person or a fairer-skin Indian
They have a strong family unit , value education and owning businesses.
@@patriciahercules6852absolutely true as an Indian american man
Oshay , it's a great topic of discussion today .All of the guests are very respectful .
I don't understand if indian women don't want to marry black men what is wrong with that?
I am Afro American when I was a teenager my high school sweetheart who was also Afro American folks didn’t care for me because I was dark skin so we get down like that too.
Hopefully you are proud of your beautiful black skin. ❤️💯
Ironically in Jamaica they dont behave like that..Neither the older Chinese. Black Jamaicans who are the vast majority have always lived harmoniously with them, no seperation..Marrying an indian and vice vera has never been a problem and so too the chinese.
Meanwhile in Guyana and Trinidad its closer to 50/50. some tensions but mostly harmonious..
They don’t behave that way, because they are not the majority. It still don’t change the fact that Blacks globally are the bottom barrel. Jamaicans don’t have desirable features, unless they are Mixed.
@@karinazrzu desirable to who? You are showing your anti blackness. Most of you are dark AF.
Aren’t Chinese not allowing black Jamaicans from going into certain beaches ?
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JAMAICA IS A VERY DIFFERENT.
And what's wrong with that?? You should follow the same and marry within your community.
I do get and understand the racial sensitivities between black and Indian people inter-marrying. But I hate to break this to a lot of folks, there are plenty of black and Indian interracial marriages throughout the Caribbean and parts of South America. We act as if these unions are impossible which they are not. C'mon, our Vice President Kamala Harris is a combination of being mixed black and Indian and we still pretend to ignore those facts. These topics are proof on how much hate we still have in each other.
As a women I lay this at the feet of BM so when you start by example then the community will change
Lmao of course u would...
When you get watch Cynthia g she can say it better than I can
@@harveyandrews4252The more you continue to be a foolish clown, the more destructive energy will continue to come your way, until you are completely Destroyed by the Ancient of Days🤡
You right when black men lead our women will follow.
@@hakeem2369 The Indian women you thirst for think you're garbage.
Marriage is a personal choice, it’s not a race issue.
Indians prefer Indians. What’s wrong with that.
Do you see lion marrying an elephant.
If blacks wants marry Indians , let there be true love and it’s between 2 people.
Don’t generalize and insult us
In the Caribbean we inter marry each other all the time no one thinks about it visit Trinidad or Guyana and you will get the most interesting mix of people
There s still racism and blacks are at the bottom🤷🏽♂️
The Indians are very ra*ist in Guyana, Trinidad and Tobago to but their is a small intermarriage creating dougla , once they come to NYC they don't associate with black at all if possible mostly
The Indians the same in Caribbean
The British bought indians to the Caribbean from 1838 until the WW1 to work as indentured servants as a replacement for the newly emancipated African slave so yes indian indians
It's the Americans spurring on so much racial division as usual.
Great discussion. Idi Amin came to my mind when I read the topic. Idi Amin wanted us to be proud of who we are and keep our heritage amongst ourselves. The arabs too love marrying their own and keep the lineage going. We should be keen on keeping up with people who look like us and share more or less the same culture norms.
The most patriotic Ugandan president and proud black African
Africa is for Africans, Black Africans. (Idi Amin)
Of Course, we need to marry within our own Race because whenever we marry outside our Race, have kids outside of our Race, we Commit Genocide Against Our Race. Race mixing is DESTRUCTIVE !!
B1 = Black 1st
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Idi Amin was a Mad man.
There is nothing wrong wanting their kids to marry people from their own race.
My father preferred that I marry someone of my race. He had friends of all races and backgrounds, who would come over and I was brought up to call all elders regardless of race: aunty/uncle.
There is nothing wrong with wanting your kids marrying someone of the same race.
It's weird to be honest. Why would you think anything about the race of the person your child loves? Backwards thinking imo.
@@williamparrish2436 Backwards thinking according to you and your kind.
You need stop thinking that the entire world should revolve around similar thinking.
And honestly why not mind your own business? P sure the west and other countries have got their own problems to solve rather than trying to teach other countries "your advanced thinking"
@@williamparrish2436 what backwardness lol protecting own bloodline, religion and language culture and status doesn't come under backwardness it was known as a preseevness, got it.
@@SurajMandal-lj6hc Bloodline is imaginary, religion is like believing in Zeus, language and culture are made up. Outside of all of that bullshit we are alive and aware. Or we could continue with the past, that has worked well for humanity hasn't it haha?
How do we overcome the multiplicity of 3,000+ African ethnic groups? How do we overcome the multiplicity of 2,500+ African languages? How do we enhance our solidarity value? Value is superseded by organization, unity, standards, cooperation, discipline, and order.
The same way Europe and Asians did. It’s starts with the “wanting” to be and have better and “respect” for each other and human life.
There's 2 main groups: bantus and nilotes. All those other groups are just subgroups.
@@upstar21t do those other groups consist of 3,000+ ethnic groups and 2,500+ languages? It is very, very difficult to cooperate/organize while speaking many many languages and having many many customs people are willing to die for or delete others for!
@@jmanhope1745 I think you misunderstood me. Those thousands of groups you mention, all either belong to the main Bantu or main Nilote group. That's what I meant.
@@upstar21t you are correct and if we would extrapolate your observation to its logical conclusion, all groups on Planet Earth are subgroups of the singular group human beings. It behooves us to work together as brothers or die alone as enemies.
I enjoy listening to this podcast. Marrying outside ethnicity is a dicey issue.
I advocate marrying whom ever one chooses or who makes him/her happy. But i prefer that marriage should be within ethnicity.
But another challenge we have is the diversity of the black race. Blacks is the most diverse race with so many ethnicity, so it's a bit complex.
In Nigeria alone, we have over 300 tribes and cultures.
There are some tribes that also cut across other countries as well. We have the Fulanis in Nigeria and other neighbouring countries.
There is also the economic situation to it. Most people travel outside to earn a living. You're gonna meet different cultures and race. What am i expected to do ?
One thing that is 100% true especially with black men. You love to blame others and not yourself.
I don't give a Damn about who doesn't like NUBIAN people. WE have to live our selves First and do our thing
How did you decide you are nubian?
The Indian culture value their bloodline and value their women.
Thankyou!
Yep
Yes, they sure do by killing their daughters in honour killings for refusing to accept arrange marriage
A indian here, indians dnt generally marry ppl from other states in india, so marrying different nationality is a big step, but ppl are changing but its more social and cultural as xolour of the skin is not much of an issue as ppl marry black coloured skin ppl in india becoz they are culturally indian
Many of us want to be loved by everybody else but ourselves
I don’t know the name of this guy but thank you for calling us out as Africans. Its refreshing to have someone from a different world give us their perspective, while at the same time saying it with love❤
He is a Ugandan born and raised in the USA. His name is called Agaba
Isn't dating even complex among Indians themselves?! Indians keep their culture regardless of where they go. There are outliers, but we cannot really blame them. Same case with Cushites of East Africa.
There's a saying where I grew up "I prefer myself over you is no indication that I dislike you".
You never stop people from loving who they want to love and marry.
USUALLY ITS OTHER PEOPLE IN THEIR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES,,WE BLACK PEOPLE ARE SO DESPERATE FOR THE HATERS TO LOVE US,,WHY??? WHY???
WELL HER PARENTS DID!!! SO?
@@murielodette2995 just do what you want to do and let others do what they want to do.. always remember.. never stopped minding your business
@@murielodette2995 Well if God blesses you with a good spouse that makes you happy, who cares? We all decide what's best for us.
That woman chose to go with her parents decisions
Awe...Black folks that marry out think that they are marrying up.
"From variations in skin tone and facial shape to unique traits specific to certain regions, Africa is a testament to the beauty of human diversity."
Honestly my goal is to try to stick with my own race, as I get older I begin to slowly realize that most of the doesn't see us as equals nor do they see us as value.
It's hard considering I live in San Francisco and the options are limited, it's even harder trying to stick with my own ethnic group (Black America) unless I book a trip to Atlanta.
I've seen many, many an interracial marriage work, it's about the individuals. You'd be surprised, I've seen people with MAGA backgrounds marry dark men and have happy marriages. You have to watch for certain signs, though, I admit.
@@josephjohnson1057 true but it's not common, I had a few Mexican roommates and they told me the main thing there parents fear is them marrying a black person, as for an Asians it's the same thing because they don't want there grand child born with darker skin
Atlanta hoez ran thru
@@Ahmaio Most hit girls and people with athletic genetics avoid both Mexicans and asians; even asian girls many are not attracted to asian guys, they go for predominantly white guys or black men (the cooler asian girls not chasing fraudulent societal prejudice).
@@josephjohnson1057 Excuse me? MAGA women marrying jet black men? 😀😀😀Are you some troll?
When you learn to prefer and value your own, the others will see it. So whenever you decide to give them attention they will in turn value you being around them. But when you disregard your own you are invariably telling them that your community is low value.
If you dont understand ask an Igbo man to explain to you 😊
Thank you for this well scripted episode. Being a Kenyan national of Indian origin in the USA, I like what Agaba Tumusime explains about his dad's stand and wisdom. While studying in Chicago in my grad class I did a book review on a book written by a Jewish author she writes on the similar lines. Here's my book review from my class on this subject:
In conclusion, the importance of retaining one's exclusive traditions while reaching out and being open is evident: The victim group's narratives are neither "misogynistic, and boundary stories are not xenophobic. Maintaining and celebrating group identity without reinforcing estrangement and enmity between groups. Healthy boundaries are essential to retain separate traditions and not be so homogenized that we have no sense of identity or continuity or appreciation of historical purpose, advantages and dangers of openness, and the difficulty of maintaining identity without exclusivity" (P.352). The author acknowledges that the problem of healthy unity in a balanced diversity remains to be solved. This book is a great tool.
Sharma, K. Book Review of Tikva Frymer-Kensky, Reading the Women of the Bible: A New Interpretation of Their Stories (New York: Schocken Books, 2002). Sep 18, 2022, Instructions for Life: Pentateuch & Wisdom Literature class, LSTC.
What a great subject and opportunity to have had a more dynamic conversation and level up the shows reach by having a representative of that ethnic culture as a 1st hand witness of this topic.
9:02 - The answer to that question is a resounding, yes. Indian parents, in most cases, would most likely allow their child to marry a white American. Somehow their "non-racist" code of exclusion tends to target non-whites, specifically blacks. When given a chance to inject [fairness/whiteness] into their bloodlines, from a Euro source. They tend to jump at the opportunity.
Yes, because the Whyte race is on top, and are seen as powerful. Therefore, they will make the exception. Also, their kids will not have undesirable features and dark skin.
@@karinazrzu - And "undesirable features" and dark skin belong to the Indians. So, the question they must ask themselves, is at what point did your own skin color and features become "undesirable"? It is a weakness to reject who you are, in an attempt to morph into your false gods (white Europeans).
Very correct👍👍We black people don't even love ourselves and discriminate amongst ourselves on the basis of country of origin, tribe etc
When I was young living in Tennessee, I’m 74 now, and before Integration I believe there was more Love in the Black community for each other.
It’s worse now between Blacks, especially between the Young & the Old, between men & women. The destruction of the Black family is apparent in 2023, mothers teaching their daughters to be independent, men seeking out of desperation to find a wife having to go outside of their race.
I agree.
Prominent figures NBA players, rappers, actors are the ones showing the way ... marrying latina ,Caucasians
Question when did the breakdown of the black family begin? In the 70s 80s 90s or after 1968
Damn 🎯
True. Integration contributed greatly to the divisions that we see today among Black folks in the United States. The Brown Supreme Court decision was 69 years ago and that was a major factor in starting the decline. The Swann decision was 52 years ago and that helped to expedite the decline. It’s probably going to take a miracle to reverse these divisions among us Black folks.
We should feel the same about them.
Because Indian Marry Indian 🤷🏽♀️🤣
The culture is very complex guys, its so complex that even most indians don't understand the true meaning of all the practices and rituals in this country. Its easier for people to break into a western culture where the values are liberal and it changes from time to time, but india is a civilisation in itself. Its really hard for an indian to relate with an outsider and an outsider to be part of the indian culture. Amd its very different for different states and regions in india. Its like a continent within a country because its hard for an indian from the southern oart to merge into an eastern part of india because the ethnicity is different, lifestyle is different, values, beliefs religions, tribes everything is different but there is a binding factor of patriotism in peoples minds which is invisible even if its not apprent. Even if you travel with in india its like travelling to a different country because its so different which us why the culture is very hard to crack into for an outsider. Its nobody's fault but these liberal values of acceptance and equality is reasonably accepted its not like they accept you as one of their own and you add into that this country has never had a truth and reconciliation process like it happened in africa, so generations of trauma and exploitation and history by outsiders is still left untouched by this country and this whole love for white or fair skin is a product of that, even if most of south and middle india is dark brown or black skin people who are majority.
That's what you call stupidity, not culture or complexity. It shows a people who stuck in the stone age and refuse to open themselves up to learning.
And how about the movie Mississippi masala with Denzel Washington when he was in love with a Indian girl in the family did not want him with her because he was black
My Chinese friend told me that when considering a husband he must be able to support his wife and future children. He should be able to purchase a house.
Man Oshay is spitting 🔥🔥 The African has NO friends! Baba John Henrik Clarke
On many caribbean islands black and indian couples are pretty common. I also have seen many Ugandan and Indian couples.
But they are too close minded to acknowledge the possibilities.
The Indians are the same in Caribbean, their is dougla ,small intermarriage but they not messing with black either especially once they come to NYC, American they get away from black
Agreed
Regarding faith, a friend of mine is a muslim, and her first daughter met a guy who is Christian, her mother refused for them to get married and they've had three children her mother refused to accept this good man. The second daughter met and married this Muslim guy. A big wedding was done now. The guy family has married a second wife for him. Her daughter has three children, boys and a girl. Now, the first daughter was married by proxy in a registery back home she is happy as a Christian wife. She changed to a Christian in England. Her husband is a highly paid teacher. The second daughter is now suffering as a Muslim wife in her marriage, that her parents preferred, midwife as a profession.
Great discussion brothers and sisters!