Very sad. Ilpo was a true pioneer, and a lovely guy with a strong conscience for the welfare of his staff, and to minimise the environmental impact of their products.
Love this video, I've had a Pair of Genelec 8030A's bought back in 2004 and they are still running strong, keep in mind, they have basically in been turned on 14+ hours everyday. One of them has even dropped and nothing happened to them. Gotta love Genelecs
This is clearly an ad... Oh well, at least it's so blatant one that there's no mistaking it to a review or honest opinion. I'm using genelecs myself, but regardless: ads should be disclosed as such!
Honestly, watching this is what sold me on getting mine. I haven’t even thought of using another pair of monitors since. Everything in this video is truthful information
@@WorstViktorEU depends on the size of your room. I've had mine for 13 years and the bass on them is amazing for it's size. I want to upgrade to 8040 monitors but I don't really need to as the mixes always translate on the 8020's.
Ordered some 8010s as my first set of monitors. About double my initial budget, but the more research I did, the more I was turned off by all of the other monitors in ~$1000 and below (a pair) range. I am not sure why one would advocate for anything other than the flattest possible frequency response. If I want to have to guess if my mix is good, I'll just put my beyerdynamic 990s back on and induce massive hearing fatigue. I will probably need a sub though, once I have another grand just lying about 7040 seems like a good choice.
@@malibustacy3606 in 2006 I A/B tested Genelec 8020 monitors to KRK Rokit monitors in Cologne while on tour in Germany. These little 8020 monitors cost twice what the Rokits cost and were half the size of the Rokits but sounded just as powerful if not more powerful and much clearer with definition in the tops the midrange and the bass. It was actually obvious why the price of one 8020 was the equivalent of two Rokits. The quality was really twice as good. I completely understand Floyd Hartman's statement. "What a major upgrade!!" I bought those same 8020 monitors right there and had them ship them back to the UK for me. I still use them to this day
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio This is why rokits are sold in pairs and genelecs are sold individually. Rokits need to match the units that come from the line to each other, because they all sound a bit different. Genelec instead creates such a good monitor, that each individual unit is as good as any other and you can trust that what ever units you pair up to stereo or 5.1 system, it's going to sound as it should :)
I’m using Genelec 8351B and 7350A … going GLM was the best move ever for Genelec. My room (not studio) has no sound treatment, GLM makes that a non-issue.
My bedroom is roughly 11’ x 13’ and the speakers will go on the 11’ side of the room. And the room has a large bed, wardrobe etc all in it and I’m making it into a bedroom studio and the monitors will also be my casual listening speakers.. was looking at Adam A7x going by various reviews and also it’s in the budget. But Genelec would have been ideal.. though way more expensive. The 8030c are little more expensive than the adam a7x whereas the 8040b are double! So will the 8030c do the needful or will it be small for the room? Also maybe 8040b might be big for the room as it’s 90+90 W. what do you guys think?
hey there. if you haven't made your decision already, i highly suggest saving up for the genelecs. I upgraded from the adam a5x to genelec 8330A about a year and a half ago. when i had the adams, i could very clearly hear that i was listening to speakers. with the genelecs, i don't hear the speakers, but rather, pure sound. i've listened t to systems like amphion, barefoot, dynaudio etc. none of them can really do what genelec manages to do in terms of stereo image, resolution, and accuracy. the only brand i can think of passing up genelec for is ATC and even then...
To give you an idea of how good the 8330A are, I just sold my Barefoot Footprint 01s to replace them with a pare of those along with the 7350A sub and I couldn’t be happier 👾
I love Genelec! In my bedroom studio i have a pair of 8030c which are playing in correct Phase and they are amazing. Took me very long time to get them in phase. And few months ago added the 7050b Sub. Also took me few weeks finding the right placement and phase behavior, once you find it they blow you away! Very musical Subwoofer! Can hear the lowest octave with ease and very flat! Cinema Music or OST is also mindblowing. Just having a small room with some QRD Diffusors and two full range Absorbers and actually compared to my other room dont need much more. They play very very musical and hear all the details i also hear on my Focal Spirit Pro Headphone. So truly happy as you get professional Gear! At very reasonable Pricing! Cheers.
as a proud owner of 8330 A monitors, i can tell you it's the best purchase i've ever made. you will hear things you've never heard in recordings. you really can close your eyes and point to where instruments lie in the stereo field. if you're even on the fence about these monitors i encourage you to buy them and experience them yourself!
+João Pedro Silveira The smallest are the 8010's! Just check out the specs on the site, sonically their profile is very similar, the key difference is larger 8000's have a higher SPL and lower bass response, so it's just a question of how low you need them to go.
you can use them out of the box. GLM only applies to SAM series monitors. i currently use sonarworks/soundID in place of GLM and it works phenomenally. even with 2k USD of acoustic treatment i prefer calibration. nothing is better than hearing everything flat, and in phase at the listening position.
Thats insane with the genelec you really think the "Voice" comin from the middle but WTF the speaker s are left and right its really wierd, great stereo image
I feel Genelec are speakers made for pros. I wouldn't get these unless you actually are serious about producing music on a daily basis and know your basics down cold. Not just that. I've seen people have these in an untreated room, Wich really pisses me off. It's like giving a student driver a fully loaded bmw, and they don't wear a seatbelt, blast music, and drive 120mph in a school zone. That's just my opinion.
Please reply to my comment Im about to buy either the Genelec 8040's or the 8050's. Could you confirm the price increase to be worthy of this upgrade? or would you recommend the 8040's with a 7070a subwoofer? The money doesn't really matter. I'm willing to pay £2300 for the 8050b's and buy the 7070a subwoofer does the 8050b have a worthy increase of quality for the £1000 difference? Thankyou for your time and reply! :P
MrDubsake Depends on the size of your room really - I'd recommend you chat to our pro audio specialist, Andy Bensley, if you're in the UK, call the office we can forward you his details - 0208 962 5080.
If you have the speakers already you need a studio level DAC in order to properly appreciate them, currently I run my 8020 dpm's using a Motu 828 mkii and they sound absolutely sublime. You can find the mkii's and mkiii's which give you upto 192khz play through on ebay quite often, there not cheap but well worth the price if you can get one.
i have a pair of 8050s. they are fragile. they lasted a couple years, then out of nowhere one of the amps blew, so they are sitting to the side looking pretty till i can get Genelec to respond to me so i can send them in to get serviced. now i'm back to using my trusty KRK V8 series 1 monitors. I do miss the low end bass response of the genelec 8050a, but i do get more information out of my krk v8s quicker. I have read a lot of people having the same issues with the amps not being reliable... maybe i will sell mine and get some krk expose or the event opal... i run a professional facility and need trusted reliability
Hi, how did you make out with the monitor? I currently have KRK V8 series 4 monitors. I'm wondering how much of an upgrade are the 8050s? I am considering purchasing them. Thanks.
John Iadevaio the 8050 sounds great. I bought another 8050 so that I could send the broken one off to genelec, but then the 2nd one suddenly went out on me, again, out of nowhere, just like the first one. So now I have a 3rd 8050 that works, 2 8050s that don’t work, and I’m back to using my krk v8 series 1 monitors again. At my facility, other than the 3 Genelec 8050s, I have krk v8 series 1, Krk rokit 8 series 1 and 2, mackie hr824, Adam a7, Adam a7x, Yamaha hs80, Yamaha ns10m, aventone, Alesis monitor 2 and ADSl910 for mid and far field monitoring. Only downtime due to speakers was from my Genelec’s. As far as sound, I enjoy them and my Adam a7x the most.
Wow sorry to hear this. I am under the impression they are built very well. As far as my KRK v8 S4s, I haven't had a single issue and they've been used non stop for a few years. I'm still not sure If I'm going to go for the upgrade at this time.
@ 3:21 if the aluminum diffraction enclosure is really working why Genelec still produce 1032 which has corner mdf cabinet? To my ears the older models were very open and fast while the new aluminum models are very shy in the midrange
Antti Heikkinen Sorry was replying to Steve, that wasn't clear! Good to know though, and you're right about the 1000 series. Have visited Iisalmi too, it's an awesome facility.
Antti Heikkinen Genelec has flush mount kits for 8040 and 8050 in case you want to flush them, just check the link below. The 1000 series definitely sound different to 8000, to my ears the sound of 1000 is superior, more close to reality. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/432505-REG/Genelec_8040_450_8040_450B_Flush_Mount_Speaker.html
SourceDistributionTV In my room plus many times in various other studios. The sound of 8000 is weird, dry and scooped in the midrange and very polished. Sometimes I had the feeling that I was listening through a hi-fi system or an expensive car stereo with loudness on. I sold 8050’s and went back to 1031, couldn’t be happier! Mixes translate perfectly, something I was missing with 8050!
@@aseelriyadh1556 Yes, I was surprised at how well the 8040's produce bass, being only 6.5". Really, unless you have an abnormally large room, the 8040s produce enough bass. In my case, they are producing enough bass down to 36hz. Then it falls off very quickly. I have considered getting a subwoofer for frequencies below 36hz, but it really shouldn't be "needed". As I see it, the problem with 8050s is that you'd need to sit quite far away from them. Already with the 8040s, you need to keep around 1.5 meters away from them in order for them to sum correctly. Therefore, I think you should really consider 8050 to be a mid-field monitor.
The problem I found with the Genelec's was that the were fatiguing up close where I need them. It was too over powering. They only sounded good to me when I moved WAY back from them and then their "spread" became clear. Like 10 feet back or something. My music space is much too small for a monitor like that. I needed something that sounded great with them 3 to 5 feet from my head so I went with the Neumann KH120's. To me they were much nice sounding with an amazing spread up close.
@@rpaulseymour yeah exactly. I use them for listening about 90% of the time as well and I love them for that too. To be honest though I've never really cared all that much about speakers being "flat" or "colored" for listening. I just get used to whatever I have and it's fine. 5 years later I still have them and they still sound amazing to me.
@@Leopardipzg It was at a music store so I just listened as they had it set up. I suppose there could be ways to change settings to make them sound better near field but ultimately the Neumann's sounded fantastic right away both in the store and when I got them home. Overall I just thought the Neumann's sounded way better. Especially for my application.
R.I.P Ilpo Martikainen (22th Dec 1947 - 30th Jan 2017) the founder of Genelec.
Very sad. Ilpo was a true pioneer, and a lovely guy with a strong conscience for the welfare of his staff, and to minimise the environmental impact of their products.
Ikutaro Kakehashi founder of Ace Tone, Roland, Boss & ATV Also died in 2017. What a tragic year.
Does the mesh grill mess with the sound. i feel like it does because it is a physical thing right infront of it
It does not, all ratings provided on the Genelec site refer to response with the grills fitted (and they can't be removed)
I'm selling my car
Steve Vai Put them on classical music and you will hear the difference.
@@Rafael-xu9cn
I think you need to get your ears checked buddy
Haha. I'm literally brainstorming what checks I have coming in order to get these Genelecs.
@@Rafael-xu9cn Um, no.
im pretty sure the geicho gecko is narrating
I already own a sweet pair of 8020s but I wanted to watch all of the ad as it's sooo arousing
The metallic case of the Genelec speaker sucked my 1 month pay.
+Ronni Arbitiaas It's time to put them to work and earn your money back.
Love this video, I've had a Pair of Genelec 8030A's bought back in 2004 and they are still running strong, keep in mind, they have basically in been turned on 14+ hours everyday. One of them has even dropped and nothing happened to them. Gotta love Genelecs
thats amazing
This is clearly an ad...
Oh well, at least it's so blatant one that there's no mistaking it to a review or honest opinion.
I'm using genelecs myself, but regardless: ads should be disclosed as such!
Honestly, watching this is what sold me on getting mine. I haven’t even thought of using another pair of monitors since. Everything in this video is truthful information
The video is literally titled "Why Go (choose) Genelec 8000." It's pretty obvious at face value that it's an advertisement...
@@nate_creates They’re highly effective monitors how else are people going to know about them btw?
@@SoundwaveOfficial he’s replying to the original comment....
@@snapascrew aware, it still applies :)
Best commercial ever! I was sold before watching it, though. :-)
I have Genelec's 8040's for around 8yrs. now. They sound fantastic, build quality is top notch for sure! I love them! 😎
They only use about 10watts when no level is going into them so they might already be class D
Are people actually complaining about the price? A pair for $1K is extremely reasonable.
beyond reasonable for a company of this pedigree if you ask me
I freaking love my Genelec 8020's!!! 😍😍😍 Just buy some!
How's the bass for mixing?
@@WorstViktorEU depends on the size of your room. I've had mine for 13 years and the bass on them is amazing for it's size. I want to upgrade to 8040 monitors but I don't really need to as the mixes always translate on the 8020's.
Ordered some 8010s as my first set of monitors. About double my initial budget, but the more research I did, the more I was turned off by all of the other monitors in ~$1000 and below (a pair) range. I am not sure why one would advocate for anything other than the flattest possible frequency response. If I want to have to guess if my mix is good, I'll just put my beyerdynamic 990s back on and induce massive hearing fatigue. I will probably need a sub though, once I have another grand just lying about 7040 seems like a good choice.
They are sonically well engineered but are so freaking ugly. I can’t get past the esthetics.
Just got the 8030's today! Switched from krk to Genelec. What a major upgrade!! Love them!
Which ones did you get?
@@malibustacy3606 in 2006 I A/B tested Genelec 8020 monitors to KRK Rokit monitors in Cologne while on tour in Germany. These little 8020 monitors cost twice what the Rokits cost and were half the size of the Rokits but sounded just as powerful if not more powerful and much clearer with definition in the tops the midrange and the bass. It was actually obvious why the price of one 8020 was the equivalent of two Rokits. The quality was really twice as good. I completely understand Floyd Hartman's statement. "What a major upgrade!!" I bought those same 8020 monitors right there and had them ship them back to the UK for me. I still use them to this day
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio This is why rokits are sold in pairs and genelecs are sold individually. Rokits need to match the units that come from the line to each other, because they all sound a bit different.
Genelec instead creates such a good monitor, that each individual unit is as good as any other and you can trust that what ever units you pair up to stereo or 5.1 system, it's going to sound as it should :)
This is not an upgrade man......this is a life change coming from KRKs to Genelec. You will never be the same anymore.
I’m using Genelec 8351B and 7350A … going GLM was the best move ever for Genelec. My room (not studio) has no sound treatment, GLM makes that a non-issue.
Whoa whoa whoa... @mylarmelodies!?
This was the best presentation I’ve ever seen
are those a (Big) upgrade over the KrK Vxt series?
1000%
Would a pair of 8040/8340’s paired with a Bluesound Node be good for music listening and two channel TV theater?
British over emotionalization of words is AWFULLY irritating.
I LOOOOOOOOVE my 8020c's! They are rugged beyond belief.
looking to buy the Adam Audio A7X but now I don't know what to buy anymore. I want to produce House and Techno music. Which ones do you guys prefer?
Bas Corver Bas Corver The A7x are great but if you want a more natural sounding monitor go with Genelec ;)
I bought a pair of Genelec 8030B two months ago. One of the best purchases in my life I have to say. I recommend Genelec to everybody now!
the bass response is good?
The Patek Philippe of studio monitors.
My bedroom is roughly 11’ x 13’ and the speakers will go on the 11’ side of the room. And the room has a large bed, wardrobe etc all in it and I’m making it into a bedroom studio and the monitors will also be my casual listening speakers.. was looking at Adam A7x going by various reviews and also it’s in the budget. But Genelec would have been ideal.. though way more expensive. The 8030c are little more expensive than the adam a7x whereas the 8040b are double! So will the 8030c do the needful or will it be small for the room? Also maybe 8040b might be big for the room as it’s 90+90 W. what do you guys think?
hey there. if you haven't made your decision already, i highly suggest saving up for the genelecs.
I upgraded from the adam a5x to genelec 8330A about a year and a half ago. when i had the adams, i could very clearly hear that i was listening to speakers. with the genelecs, i don't hear the speakers, but rather, pure sound. i've listened t to systems like amphion, barefoot, dynaudio etc. none of them can really do what genelec manages to do in terms of stereo image, resolution, and accuracy. the only brand i can think of passing up genelec for is ATC and even then...
To give you an idea of how good the 8330A are, I just sold my Barefoot Footprint 01s to replace them with a pare of those along with the 7350A sub and I couldn’t be happier 👾
yes we know what studio monitors are (thats why we are here). BUT WHY GENELEC?
Still have my 8040's got them around the time you posted this, Was looking to add a sub as I'm a part timer in playing with music. Superb video.
I love Genelec! In my bedroom studio i have a pair of 8030c which are playing in correct Phase and they are amazing. Took me very long time to get them in phase. And few months ago added the 7050b Sub. Also took me few weeks finding the right placement and phase behavior, once you find it they blow you away! Very musical Subwoofer! Can hear the lowest octave with ease and very flat! Cinema Music or OST is also mindblowing. Just having a small room with some QRD Diffusors and two full range Absorbers and actually compared to my other room dont need much more. They play very very musical and hear all the details i also hear on my Focal Spirit Pro Headphone. So truly happy as you get professional Gear! At very reasonable Pricing! Cheers.
What are you rambling about?
I'm selling my daughter's
Nice video. I have a question,
I am planning to buy a pair of Genelec 8030 C monitors, so can you please share your opinions regarding that?
as a proud owner of 8330 A monitors, i can tell you it's the best purchase i've ever made. you will hear things you've never heard in recordings. you really can close your eyes and point to where instruments lie in the stereo field. if you're even on the fence about these monitors i encourage you to buy them and experience them yourself!
Forget about the monitor, this is a great sales video!
are these just as solid for film editing.
wich one is the guy with the smaller version using? i'm guessing between 8010 and 8020...
+João Pedro Silveira The smallest are the 8010's! Just check out the specs on the site, sonically their profile is very similar, the key difference is larger 8000's have a higher SPL and lower bass response, so it's just a question of how low you need them to go.
i have the 840s they are the shit
Is the GLM kit necessary? Or you can use them straight out of the box 📦?
you can use them out of the box. GLM only applies to SAM series monitors. i currently use sonarworks/soundID in place of GLM and it works phenomenally. even with 2k USD of acoustic treatment i prefer calibration. nothing is better than hearing everything flat, and in phase at the listening position.
I am guessing this would not be good to just listen to music on my mac? I do not plan on mixing music
Vinny Mattiello no not at all
Thats insane with the genelec you really think the "Voice" comin from the middle but WTF the speaker s are left and right its really wierd, great stereo image
LOL. Every decent pair of speakers does that.
@@copacdenorcusoare9503 genelec does it better than most
CTTG
8050 or 1037b?
I feel Genelec are speakers made for pros. I wouldn't get these unless you actually are serious about producing music on a daily basis and know your basics down cold. Not just that. I've seen people have these in an untreated room, Wich really pisses me off. It's like giving a student driver a fully loaded bmw, and they don't wear a seatbelt, blast music, and drive 120mph in a school zone. That's just my opinion.
This was like David Tennant as the Doctor doing an apple advertisement at times haha, fantastic vid though, very informative and helpful thanks :)
PaddehTeeeVeee It's a bit Brian Cox isn't it? Sorry I can't help it, I get excited talking about speakers!!
PaddehTeeeVeee
8010A or Presonus Sceptre S6? Sceptre have a newer tech and design, plus I never tried coaxial designs.
why do I hate my Genelecs so much though lol. I bought them used but they're so unsatisfying and sterile to listen to
Not the only, I got VXT8's and a HR824 mkii. I'm downgrading to Genelecs.
Accurate reference monitors are never cheap, thats something i learned after 20 years😅
I got a genelec 8010,worth it's price.
Get Gennie to drop Class D amps into those 8040's FTW.
Someone, give the narrator guy a glass of water.
why is mylar melodies everywhere ?
CRANK THAT RES. Nice touch guys.
What would be the recommendation for techno production? Would the 8020 suffice with a sub or the 8030 without a sub?
8020 with a sub would be a better choice in that regard
also a lot of the sound comes from room
Please reply to my comment
Im about to buy either the Genelec 8040's or the 8050's. Could you confirm the price increase to be worthy of this upgrade? or would you recommend the 8040's with a 7070a subwoofer?
The money doesn't really matter. I'm willing to pay £2300 for the 8050b's and buy the 7070a subwoofer
does the 8050b have a worthy increase of quality for the £1000 difference?
Thankyou for your time and reply! :P
MrDubsake Depends on the size of your room really - I'd recommend you chat to our pro audio specialist, Andy Bensley, if you're in the UK, call the office we can forward you his details - 0208 962 5080.
Hell, you've got me, I am buying it.
Would Genelec 7040 APM be a good idea with Genelec 8040 BPM?
you need 7060
I have to sell ma house in order to get a pair of those babies
Which is a good usb dac or audio interface for 8010?
I am into playback for PC (not into recording)
If you have the speakers already you need a studio level DAC in order to properly appreciate them, currently I run my 8020 dpm's using a Motu 828 mkii and they sound absolutely sublime.
You can find the mkii's and mkiii's which give you upto 192khz play through on ebay quite often, there not cheap but well worth the price if you can get one.
i have to sell my eyes first to buy this :D very good video!
in my dreams..
Make your dreams come true! :3
Nightmare for my wallet lol..
Skip intro to 1:53.
7:03 Why that main IC flapping around in the breeze?
It isn't anymore after the PCB is in the cabinet.
I'm sold!
Koska ne ovat maailman parhaat. Siis niinku dah!
thank you!
So a cilinder shaped room would not be such a bad idea for a studio?
FullFledged2010 a spherical room is the worst possible acoustics.
Wooow
Sweet video guys!
I love my 8260A speakers.
Cool story bro
3:23 👏🏽
Great video. what music is playing in the background? any artist ?
Thanks! That's a bit of my music!
SourceDistributionTV That is captivating. can I buy it ?
i have a pair of 8050s. they are fragile. they lasted a couple years, then out of nowhere one of the amps blew, so they are sitting to the side looking pretty till i can get Genelec to respond to me so i can send them in to get serviced. now i'm back to using my trusty KRK V8 series 1 monitors. I do miss the low end bass response of the genelec 8050a, but i do get more information out of my krk v8s quicker. I have read a lot of people having the same issues with the amps not being reliable... maybe i will sell mine and get some krk expose or the event opal... i run a professional facility and need trusted reliability
Hi, how did you make out with the monitor? I currently have KRK V8 series 4 monitors. I'm wondering how much of an upgrade are the 8050s? I am considering purchasing them. Thanks.
John Iadevaio the 8050 sounds great. I bought another 8050 so that I could send the broken one off to genelec, but then the 2nd one suddenly went out on me, again, out of nowhere, just like the first one. So now I have a 3rd 8050 that works, 2 8050s that don’t work, and I’m back to using my krk v8 series 1 monitors again.
At my facility, other than the 3 Genelec 8050s, I have krk v8 series 1, Krk rokit 8 series 1 and 2, mackie hr824, Adam a7, Adam a7x, Yamaha hs80, Yamaha ns10m, aventone, Alesis monitor 2 and ADSl910 for mid and far field monitoring.
Only downtime due to speakers was from my Genelec’s. As far as sound, I enjoy them and my Adam a7x the most.
Wow sorry to hear this. I am under the impression they are built very well. As far as my KRK v8 S4s, I haven't had a single issue and they've been used non stop for a few years. I'm still not sure If I'm going to go for the upgrade at this time.
@ 3:21 if the aluminum diffraction enclosure is really working why Genelec still produce 1032 which has corner mdf cabinet? To my ears the older models were very open and fast while the new aluminum models are very shy in the midrange
Where did you audition the 8000 series?
Antti Heikkinen Sorry was replying to Steve, that wasn't clear! Good to know though, and you're right about the 1000 series. Have visited Iisalmi too, it's an awesome facility.
Antti Heikkinen
Genelec has flush mount kits for 8040 and 8050 in case you want to flush them, just check the link below. The 1000 series definitely sound different to 8000, to my ears the sound of 1000 is superior, more close to reality.
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/432505-REG/Genelec_8040_450_8040_450B_Flush_Mount_Speaker.html
SourceDistributionTV In my room plus many times in various other studios. The sound of 8000 is weird, dry and scooped in the midrange and very polished. Sometimes I had the feeling that I was listening through a hi-fi system or an expensive car stereo with loudness on.
I sold 8050’s and went back to 1031, couldn’t be happier! Mixes translate perfectly, something I was missing with 8050!
i am in love with these monitors. 2019
Trying to decide whether to get 8040's or 8050's. Damn it's a hard choice, considering the huge cost of these things.
8030s most value vs size
@@onetwo234 I got the 8040's. Ended up fitting me very well.
@@antiHUMANDesigns Nice I bet those sound great!
@@antiHUMANDesigns
What about the bass of 8040B , i am too puzzled to buy either 8050 or 8040 ?
@@aseelriyadh1556 Yes, I was surprised at how well the 8040's produce bass, being only 6.5".
Really, unless you have an abnormally large room, the 8040s produce enough bass.
In my case, they are producing enough bass down to 36hz. Then it falls off very quickly.
I have considered getting a subwoofer for frequencies below 36hz, but it really shouldn't be "needed".
As I see it, the problem with 8050s is that you'd need to sit quite far away from them. Already with the 8040s, you need to keep around 1.5 meters away from them in order for them to sum correctly.
Therefore, I think you should really consider 8050 to be a mid-field monitor.
So in other words they use shapes to robb our money :D
The problem I found with the Genelec's was that the were fatiguing up close where I need them. It was too over powering. They only sounded good to me when I moved WAY back from them and then their "spread" became clear. Like 10 feet back or something. My music space is much too small for a monitor like that. I needed something that sounded great with them 3 to 5 feet from my head so I went with the Neumann KH120's. To me they were much nice sounding with an amazing spread up close.
@@rpaulseymour yeah exactly. I use them for listening about 90% of the time as well and I love them for that too. To be honest though I've never really cared all that much about speakers being "flat" or "colored" for listening. I just get used to whatever I have and it's fine.
5 years later I still have them and they still sound amazing to me.
@@doublestrokeroll did you try lowering the treble tilt on the Genelecs?
@@Leopardipzg It was at a music store so I just listened as they had it set up.
I suppose there could be ways to change settings to make them sound better near field but ultimately the Neumann's sounded fantastic right away both in the store and when I got them home. Overall I just thought the Neumann's sounded way better. Especially for my application.
... 6:47-6:49: "Strong and rigid as HELL!" Hail Genele... Hail Sata... Both?
+Mads Stagis Antichrists choice for studio monitors is Genelec.
i am fucking sold... please take my money. These will be my next studio monitors.