That man’s testimony was 100% perfect. If I was sitting on a jury, his testimony alone is what would make me seal the deal of GUILTY. His calm, professional, precise detailed testimony was 100% believable.
@@Tylnorton yet no one wanted to buy his submersibles. I came across in which Rush boasted he would sell 30 of the Cyclops 2 aka Titan in four years. He sold none of them.
Yeah, well... When an idiot thinks they are right, only catastrophic failure will ever dissuade them. Too bad that failure is the kind that doesn't give you a second chance. What bothers me the most though is how he said that the industry values the safety of its consumers over innovation. When it comes to visiting generations old shipwrecks, innovation is far less important than the lives of the consumers who may use that product. Want to know a secret? Rush wasn't completely mad, there is actually some evidence in being able to use CarbonFiber in a similar way, he wasn't even the first to mix it with titanium end caps even though he goes out of his way to say there is a rule you don't mix titanium and carbon fiber "well I did" or whatever. You can look into a navy or other military built submersible capable of operating at similar and even lower depths than the titan made from relatively similar materials with more successful trips. The issue was Stockton wasn't trying to make a safe vehicle, he was trying to make a cheap vehicle. So he could maximize his profits off each trip and any sales he may have made. While the materials are viable, they are not viable in the method he used with the corners he cut. Not only was he extremely narcissistic, his actions also reek of desperation.I can't tell if he cared more about his ego, or was trying so hard to keep from bankrupting it was worth risking his life. Regardless, the choices Stockton made were reckless and foolish and came at the disregard of all human life, including his own. I hope his business partners are held responsible too.
im still amazed Paul-Henri Nargeolet went. if i was considering it, as soon as id heard he was going id trusted it. rip to them all. im angry about it, im angry at stockton rush, (more like 'in a rush') and im angry at the cost. what is the point going to the titanic wreck site, with its obvious its full of dangerous conditions, and what is the best that can happen?? you can only view it through a screen. you cant get out and touch it etc. you could stay above sea and send down remote submersibles, and see the titanic throw the exact screen. leave it alone
I have so much respect & admiration for David Lochridge. That engineer department (Tony Nissen) were a bunch of narcissists. All arrogance & hubris. Stockholm murdered those people. He KNEW that submersible was going to fail. He KNEW. He was a very narcissistic, I know it all, jealous & envious man. I hope David & his family know how much we appreciate this man. His family should be very proud of him.
wireless system that often disconnected or just didn't work which caused a number of dives to scrub. they use wired systems with independent control backup systems on real submersibles.
Not really, even the US Navy used them in their submersibles, the operating system was not at fault it was the design and the glue they used to put the parts together
@@margretrobinson5040 false. They are not used to control the sub. They are for periscope, remote drones. They are also wired with additional control systems that are independent.
Imagine that, the company wanted to make money or perhaps just the individual who owned the company or the submissible submersible. I think it was a very foolish thing to do and I wouldn’t have gotten in that submarine even at the dock and maybe not even if it was out of the water on dry land. But for some simpleton to say the guy wanted to make money is I think a fairly obvious endeavor. I don’t think there was any proof that the people who got in the submarine and paid their money were handcuffed and forced to do this. Stupidity gets spread around even amongst people who have lots of money and little sense. Pardon the pun.
Funny Triton Submarines which is a bespoke submersible builder of the most advanced submersibles they make loads of money. They sell submersibles for 12 million -27 million dollars. They even offer design services hence their creation of Limiting Factor. They have clients all over the world. Thing is their craft last for 30 years minimum.
@@ShakesSphere international waters don't have regulations. Do you really expect government to be operating literally in the middle of the Atlantic? Who is going to enforce that? You want them to set up little kiosks floating out there? Little floating stations for you?
it was never certified. Rush in fact falsely claimed it was before the certification agency demanded he remove the claim. He never had it certified because they have to pressure test it hundreds of times. It would have failed the certification process. Look up the manufacturing videos of Limiting Factor than look up the vids of Oceangate making the Cyclops 2 aka Titan
@@ROFLtheWAFL the thing is they weren't making money at all. there is a reason why Hamish was told if he wanted to go to Titanic on Limiting Factor he would have to pay a million to cover the costs of the support vessel going out there. The Russians were charging a million or more per person to go to Titanic and you had to have enough people or repeat for them to consider doing it that year. Otherwise private submersible expeditions often cost 12-17 million dollars to go there.
Asking this man’s opinion. Where’s the documentation’s of his investment and involvement? Seems like this is an irrelevant meeting with no consequence. But hey these fools wanted thrills and they paid in more ways than money.
This employee should be in jail . He knew it was unsafe and didn't say anything. He was only vocal to Stockton Rush. The deaths of the people are also on his hands.
If they would’ve inspected grandma’s Tupperware they would’ve been able to know that it could not go down to the bottom of the swimming pool!!! They were warned and they were told!!!! that thing was not seaworthy!!!! Literally ship of fools😢😢😢
That man’s testimony was 100% perfect. If I was sitting on a jury, his testimony alone is what would make me seal the deal of GUILTY. His calm, professional, precise detailed testimony was 100% believable.
This is something that you would think "cost cutting" would not be in their vocabulary
Rush said he wanted to cut cost and cut corners and took pride in it.
@@Tylnorton yet no one wanted to buy his submersibles. I came across in which Rush boasted he would sell 30 of the Cyclops 2 aka Titan in four years. He sold none of them.
Yeah, well... When an idiot thinks they are right, only catastrophic failure will ever dissuade them. Too bad that failure is the kind that doesn't give you a second chance. What bothers me the most though is how he said that the industry values the safety of its consumers over innovation. When it comes to visiting generations old shipwrecks, innovation is far less important than the lives of the consumers who may use that product.
Want to know a secret? Rush wasn't completely mad, there is actually some evidence in being able to use CarbonFiber in a similar way, he wasn't even the first to mix it with titanium end caps even though he goes out of his way to say there is a rule you don't mix titanium and carbon fiber "well I did" or whatever. You can look into a navy or other military built submersible capable of operating at similar and even lower depths than the titan made from relatively similar materials with more successful trips. The issue was Stockton wasn't trying to make a safe vehicle, he was trying to make a cheap vehicle. So he could maximize his profits off each trip and any sales he may have made. While the materials are viable, they are not viable in the method he used with the corners he cut. Not only was he extremely narcissistic, his actions also reek of desperation.I can't tell if he cared more about his ego, or was trying so hard to keep from bankrupting it was worth risking his life. Regardless, the choices Stockton made were reckless and foolish and came at the disregard of all human life, including his own. I hope his business partners are held responsible too.
The only one I feel sorry for is the teenager. He was probably trying to please his father by agreeing to get in that sardine can.
It's almost like regulation and outside inspections might be better than just trusting a company looking to maximize profits to do the right thing.
the thing is they weren't maximizing profits. they were losing millions of dollars each Titanic trip.
im still amazed Paul-Henri Nargeolet went. if i was considering it, as soon as id heard he was going id trusted it. rip to them all. im angry about it, im angry at stockton rush, (more like 'in a rush') and im angry at the cost. what is the point going to the titanic wreck site, with its obvious its full of dangerous conditions, and what is the best that can happen?? you can only view it through a screen. you cant get out and touch it etc. you could stay above sea and send down remote submersibles, and see the titanic throw the exact screen. leave it alone
If it was a movie it wouldnt be believable but here we are IRL lol.
This will very likely be made into a movie
it's truly wild
@@Bigfootnosferatu1776it is
his face expression says it all, like he's conveying "see, i told you so"
To think Boeing adapted the same doctrine, you think numbers dont lie but its up to the exec really
boy didnt they find out the hard way...rip...didnt feel a thing..instant...!!!!
I have so much respect & admiration for David Lochridge. That engineer department (Tony Nissen) were a bunch of narcissists. All arrogance & hubris. Stockholm murdered those people. He KNEW that submersible was going to fail. He KNEW. He was a very narcissistic, I know it all, jealous & envious man.
I hope David & his family know how much we appreciate this man. His family should be very proud of him.
The game 🎮 should have been a red flag.😢
wireless system that often disconnected or just didn't work which caused a number of dives to scrub. they use wired systems with independent control backup systems on real submersibles.
Not really, even the US Navy used them in their submersibles, the operating system was not at fault it was the design and the glue they used to put the parts together
@@margretrobinson5040 false. They are not used to control the sub. They are for periscope, remote drones. They are also wired with additional control systems that are independent.
Vety troubling
WHY the hearing? Was the loud boom clear enough?
It was the carbon fiber that sealed their fate
Or “un-sealed”…in this case…
probably or probably not, not sure because there is a lot of issue
Wasn’t it the glue join?
Oceangate was broke
And the winner of Darwin Award is…
Dumb move . Pay the price for dumb actions. Dumb actions have consequence
Imagine that, the company wanted to make money or perhaps just the individual who owned the company or the submissible submersible. I think it was a very foolish thing to do and I wouldn’t have gotten in that submarine even at the dock and maybe not even if it was out of the water on dry land. But for some simpleton to say the guy wanted to make money is I think a fairly obvious endeavor. I don’t think there was any proof that the people who got in the submarine and paid their money were handcuffed and forced to do this. Stupidity gets spread around even amongst people who have lots of money and little sense. Pardon the pun.
Funny Triton Submarines which is a bespoke submersible builder of the most advanced submersibles they make loads of money. They sell submersibles for 12 million -27 million dollars. They even offer design services hence their creation of Limiting Factor. They have clients all over the world. Thing is their craft last for 30 years minimum.
Nothing new here.
I don't understand how that guy bypassed getting the sub inspected and certified, even if he was so obviously negligent.
Did not need these if used out in open waters....
@jaycahow4667 wow, I wonder why not.. Wouldn't you think that it would be even more crucial, out in the ocean? Anyway, thx for answering:)
@@ShakesSphere international waters don't have regulations. Do you really expect government to be operating literally in the middle of the Atlantic? Who is going to enforce that? You want them to set up little kiosks floating out there? Little floating stations for you?
@@JuliusCaesar888 don't be silly. It was at dock before ever venturing out. Pretty sure you're glad you weren't aboard.
it was never certified. Rush in fact falsely claimed it was before the certification agency demanded he remove the claim.
He never had it certified because they have to pressure test it hundreds of times. It would have failed the certification process.
Look up the manufacturing videos of Limiting Factor than look up the vids of Oceangate making the Cyclops 2 aka Titan
A business wanting to make money? No way!! I'm glad we had this hearing to reveal this critical information.
So it's okay to make money by ignoring every and all safety concerns even after their pointed out to you how dangerous it is?
@@ROFLtheWAFL no
@@ROFLtheWAFL the thing is they weren't making money at all. there is a reason why Hamish was told if he wanted to go to Titanic on Limiting Factor he would have to pay a million to cover the costs of the support vessel going out there.
The Russians were charging a million or more per person to go to Titanic and you had to have enough people or repeat for them to consider doing it that year. Otherwise private submersible expeditions often cost 12-17 million dollars to go there.
You total edgelord
Asking this man’s opinion. Where’s the documentation’s of his investment and involvement? Seems like this is an irrelevant meeting with no consequence. But hey these fools wanted thrills and they paid in more ways than money.
This employee should be in jail . He knew it was unsafe and didn't say anything. He was only vocal to Stockton Rush. The deaths of the people are also on his hands.
If they would’ve inspected grandma’s Tupperware they would’ve been able to know that it could not go down to the bottom of the swimming pool!!! They were warned and they were told!!!! that thing was not seaworthy!!!! Literally ship of fools😢😢😢