How Bad Were Pokémon's Mega Evolutions?

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  • Опубліковано 28 гру 2024

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  • @Lucid_Coffee
    @Lucid_Coffee 8 місяців тому +65

    Mega Pidgeot doesn't need to worry about Hurricane and Heat Wave accuracy, as it has No Guard. It's just weak to rocks without being able to use boots (or any item for that matter) and doesn't hit that hard, especially since it lacks reliable normal STAB. Plus being unable to dodge stone edge isn't doing it any favors.
    Edit : Should've said this first, but great vid !

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  8 місяців тому +27

      That's actually a good point.

    • @yobin3711
      @yobin3711 8 місяців тому +15

      Imagine Mega Evolving only to become the only rock-weak pokemon that can never dodge Stone Edge

    • @Latias38
      @Latias38 8 місяців тому +3

      yea, def needed some sort of boosting move at least, like Nasty Plot.

    • @Latias38
      @Latias38 8 місяців тому +2

      @@yobin3711 tru lol

    • @MasonRodriguez-l5n
      @MasonRodriguez-l5n 5 місяців тому +1

      “Mega pighhot”

  • @Rando4447
    @Rando4447 8 місяців тому +28

    Correct usage of “nothing to scoff at” will forever be a mystery to this man.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  8 місяців тому +9

      My B lol! I didn't catch that, apologies for that.

  • @Stickyz
    @Stickyz 8 місяців тому +29

    "Nothing to scoff at" means that it's not to be underestimated. You were using it the opposite way.

    • @poultryg3ist
      @poultryg3ist 8 місяців тому +7

      Omg thank you for commenting this, it was driving me nuts

  • @rafaelcarmona4647
    @rafaelcarmona4647 8 місяців тому +9

    The fact that there are a lot of megas competing in the same tier as unevolved pokemon (and still losing in some cases) is wild to me

  • @Rough_Estimates
    @Rough_Estimates 8 місяців тому +11

    More people should try and play Digimon Cyber Sleuth. It has so much the fanbase has been asking for:
    -Everyone Has a Mega Evolution
    -Multiple Digimon have Fusions
    -Actual Story mode with a good rival
    -Following Pokemon (Digimon)
    -Most Pokemon have an exclusive move that is unique to them with a special animation

    • @Latias38
      @Latias38 8 місяців тому +1

      I liked the game when I played it, even did some min maxing on my favorite digimons, but the game itself is uh; cant say it has much lasting impact, and the story mode was pretty forgettable too.
      I think my main issue with digimon games is that there is very little consistency between them. Like one game is turn based rpg and is enjoyable while the other is a fighting game and another is arena rpg but you have to manage your digimon like a real life pet, including feeding and taking them out. It seems like all their doing is expierimenting and its hard to get into multiple games series if you dont like a certain core idea. Pokemon has one core formula and their expieriments are far less impactful.
      Oh yea, and a majority of digimon games are japanese only, although a few have gotten localizations.
      Ftr, the games ive played are Digimon Cyber Sleuth and Digimon Re:Digitize (PSP, English Patch)

    • @joao20able
      @joao20able 7 місяців тому

      @@Latias38 tbh it's not like pokemon games and stories have much of a lasting impact

  • @Devhawk124
    @Devhawk124 8 місяців тому +14

    Shoutouts ti Mega Gyrados who didn't have crunch when it first came out

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 8 місяців тому

      There should be 2 A's in Gyarados! And it's to, not ti!

  • @Sly88Frye
    @Sly88Frye 8 місяців тому +2

    2:16 Wait a minute. Does it really matter that it has a four times weakness to ice though? As far as I know ice type pokémon generally kind of suck and there aren't really that many good ice type moves.

    • @tonberry2670
      @tonberry2670 8 місяців тому

      Ice beam and Hidden Power Ice are VERY common coverage options

    • @cowboyoctopus2738
      @cowboyoctopus2738 7 місяців тому

      ice is a very common offensive type. ice type pokemon being bad isnt really true, theyre just bad defensively

    • @Nosretep
      @Nosretep 7 місяців тому

      ​@@cowboyoctopus2738Lando-T is the reason why Ice moves are common.

  • @kennethxu1789
    @kennethxu1789 8 місяців тому +4

    so sad that the worst mega was not actually covered: meganium

  • @shakenjacob7946
    @shakenjacob7946 8 місяців тому +3

    imo, i dont think megas were bad in of themselves, just poorly executed. some megas were unnecessary, some were absolutely ridiculous, and some were weak or even detrimental to the user (...garchomp is an obvious one on that end). maybe if megas were reworked, they could be a lot better, but this is the world we live in so...

  • @MrMarkycoolsuper
    @MrMarkycoolsuper 8 місяців тому +2

    at 1:49 mega TTar actually has 164 base attack, regular TTar has 134 base attack

  • @mattguy1773
    @mattguy1773 8 місяців тому +7

    Mega flygon needs to be in z-a

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  8 місяців тому +3

      Mega Milotic!!

    • @mattguy1773
      @mattguy1773 8 місяців тому +1

      @@ZachHonest yes that too

  • @Tails_The_Fox92
    @Tails_The_Fox92 8 місяців тому +3

    Shoutout to gamefreak to giving all the gen one starters equal love here. They did well! (😢)

  • @Sly88Frye
    @Sly88Frye 8 місяців тому +1

    5:35 would heat proof have been a good ability for Abomasnow. To be honest I've never really liked that pokémon because of the grass ice typing. It has so many weaknesses.

  • @Sly88Frye
    @Sly88Frye 8 місяців тому +1

    6:17 Oh hey! Now I enjoyed using Fearow Because of how fast it is but yes I get it It's not really that strong of a pokémon, but staraptor is actually kind of a badass. Has a lot of powerful moves.

  • @Ze_Carrot
    @Ze_Carrot 8 місяців тому +5

    My man mega camerupt would love tera

  • @fleefie
    @fleefie 8 місяців тому +2

    Honest Content pokémon video jumpscare !
    Always nice to see great content creators try out variety content, adds variety to my feed and helps to feel safe from the algorithm in case one kind of content falls off.

  • @danb1809
    @danb1809 8 місяців тому +2

    Crazy to think megas and fairies were added over a decade ago

  • @Baguette2Pain
    @Baguette2Pain 8 місяців тому +1

    Mega audino ??? This thing even exist ?

  • @JellyDuckyQuack
    @JellyDuckyQuack 8 місяців тому

    I might be making this up but I swear a fan game out there helps abomasnow out with it having snow warning before mega evolution like normal but after it gets slush rush helping with its speed which would could have been interesting to see in competitive with its poor typing still hurting it

  • @HMZeroTwo
    @HMZeroTwo 8 місяців тому +2

    Mega Yanmega and Mega Meganium better be in Z-A

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 8 місяців тому

      Even if they did bring back the Megas, there might not be any new ones! The ones you just mentioned are not officially confirmed yet!

  • @Save_Frog
    @Save_Frog 8 місяців тому

    It's really cool you're branching out and doing other game content. I really love this channel, and Comp Pokemon and Smash are some of my most played games.

  • @desmondkosmas3315
    @desmondkosmas3315 8 місяців тому +1

    Mega Audino has to be the worst thing I have ever seen in my entire life

  • @tonberry2670
    @tonberry2670 8 місяців тому +1

    Mega Camerupt has access to Sheer Force actually. Normal Camerupt has Magma Armor.

  • @alexv3375
    @alexv3375 8 місяців тому +3

    Still wish they were able to do a Mega Milotic. My favourite Pokémon given a cool extra design and made even stronger than it already is would have been just epic!

  • @Wizzkidwas
    @Wizzkidwas 8 місяців тому +1

    Did the definition of "Nothing to scoff at" change or something? Or is he actually using it wrong at every opportunity

  • @darienwest4748
    @darienwest4748 7 місяців тому

    The lower tier megas tended to be my favorites, partially because people on the Showdown ladder never knew what they actually did, which made cheesing wins pretty easy sometimes. My favorite from this video had to be Mega Camerupt in gen 7 OU because of how broken Magearna was, and Mega Camerupt had a niche of being the one of the only Pokemon in the game that could 1v1 every major Magearna set. Even though it didn't fit onto most teams, it was a good fit for when you needed extra help against Magearna and other steel-types when you didn't already have a mega. I also liked regular Camerupt in gen 3, it could work as a niche Zapdos counter, since being part-fire made it not weak to HP Grass and HP Ice. Though despite what both Camerupts had to offer, their massive weaknesses prevented them from being anything other than niche.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  7 місяців тому +1

      My lord I hated Magearna with a passion LOL

  • @flyforce16
    @flyforce16 8 місяців тому

    Video content: 9.8/10
    Video content + using Pokemon Colosseum music: 11/10

  • @rike971
    @rike971 8 місяців тому

    Losing Unburden is the best thing which can happen to a Mega Evolution as Mega Stones can't be lost.

  • @ssbmgameri5iti
    @ssbmgameri5iti 8 місяців тому +1

    I think youre mixing up "nothing to scoff at" and "nothing to write home about"

  • @TramiNguyen-oi3kp
    @TramiNguyen-oi3kp 8 місяців тому

    Awesome video!

  • @mr.j1401
    @mr.j1401 8 місяців тому

    Smash bros content AND Pokemon Content?! I'm in heaven

  • @jasonpark1105
    @jasonpark1105 8 місяців тому +1

    Mega evolution was certainly very cool looking but seriously disrupted competitive play. The Pokémon that received mega evolutions were highly questionable in my opinion including Tyranitar, Garchomp, Mewtwo, Salamance, and Rayquaza. All of them are already OU or above. Mega evolution also caused some other Pokémon to become extremely over centralizing (kangaskhan and mawile).

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  8 місяців тому +2

      And the fact that Charizard got two of them LMAO

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 8 місяців тому

      Salamence is spelled with 2 E's, not 3 A's!

  • @DopePulls
    @DopePulls 8 місяців тому +1

    Pokémon content that's what's up!

  • @Kaiser25
    @Kaiser25 8 місяців тому

    big fan of seeing ur video format for pokemon

  • @Flash33c
    @Flash33c 8 місяців тому

    Regarding Mega Sceptile it's already weak to Ice and unlikely to live those attacks in its base form anyway so gaining a x4 Ice weakness isn't as big a deal-breaker as you might think. As for Lightning Rod turning a resist into an immunity+1 is actually pretty good and let's it shut down Electrics who rely on Electric stab completely. While it's certainly not the best mega out there I think you downplay its improvements too much.

  • @BuddyHolly94-e4j
    @BuddyHolly94-e4j 8 місяців тому

    Wake up babe honest uploaded 🗣🗣🔥🔥

  • @twotamatos
    @twotamatos 7 місяців тому

    This is the typa content that I get really depressed about because Pokémon is a game that does hold the same values as the show there r no weak Pokémon just weak trainers. Things like gravity, simple beam, power split & gaurd split evolite can make any Pokémon viable in theyre own regard I’ve found ways u could make even just base delibird viable that’s where I just see a lot of people use stats and typings as a way to determine what Pokémon was good to me a good Pokémon is just the ones u see yourself using not what you lost to on showdown I gave up on competitive Pokémon a while back not because the competitive scene is a joke because they don’t ban legendaries or the challenge of online but purely because the devs dropped the ball so hard in including everything gen 7 had gen 8 kinda got a few things right giving more things like stored power and hex to other moms and all that but man do I just miss mega evolutions I will defs make a hack one day to retain that childhood love I have for the series but I hope going forward one day we can have national Dex up to gen 8 & megas back cuz the game does not feel the same without them I hate gigantamax & Tera forming Z moves where really great and I miss them too but not as much as megas I strictly just kinda play gen 7 n have some great street legal teams that I’ve pushed it to it’s limits and some really unique fun hackmons teams with friends cuz man Pokémon is a very important franchise to me but I hope going forward u might see it through that lense not many do but I promise u this game does have ways u can make anything work

  • @TheRedStinger82
    @TheRedStinger82 8 місяців тому

    I'm a big mega sceptile believer

  • @bananashoplifter3440
    @bananashoplifter3440 Місяць тому

    Don't care much in regard to "meta" stuff, but Mega evos are pretty awesome design wise, and personally the gimmicks that have followed haven't really been as good. Gmax coming the closest.

  • @TheGodIvy
    @TheGodIvy 8 місяців тому +1

    I thought this vid would be how badly executed pokemon made megas, and how most of the mons who got them didnt need them in the first place
    Wont go too much into it, but as a long time pokemon fan, Megas are easily the worst gimmick, due to many factors such as:
    - Can only use like 5 in a playthrough, meaning most are only post game, which has no major battles, or competitively, something most dont even wanna do
    - Again, very few who needed it (Audino, Beedrill, Abomasnow) actually got it, so they ended up horrible and outclassed by everyone else
    - Why did legendaries get it? Literally no reason to, yet here we are giving Raquayza a mega
    - and finally, every other gimmick so far, every single mon can use. No need to be forced to have a mon who could mega, anyone can have the gimmick, so its much less limiting

  • @pancpop1603
    @pancpop1603 8 місяців тому

    damn, first?

  • @tristandahn2284
    @tristandahn2284 8 місяців тому

    Imo, Mega's need to be completely reworked. Get rid of the adding of 100 base stat total to them and make the big power boost be in the stat distribution. Instead of just a Better version of the Pokémon, make it more of an optional mode that they could use over their original sets. Keep the type changes, abilities and designs of course, but make them strong because of their distribution of stats being different. Either that or just only give the mon who needed a mega the 100 bst increase while leaving stuff like Mega Gengar, Rayquaza, Kangaskan, with their original bst except for them being rearranged to be more interesting and fit their new forms.
    Although the true best way to balance them is to give EVERYONE a mega. If everyone's super... No one will be.