K rool main here, he has a lot of traits a heavy would die for, range, counter, good horizontal recovery, and the hallmarks a heavy already has, big damage and super armor, a jack of all trades master of none, combine all his mediocre traits is where you start getting results
Valid points across the board. Except for the good horizontal recovery part. K. Rool essentially only has one way to recover from which is almost straight up.
Here's what I'll say also as a k rool main. The three things he needs imo to be solid is a frame 5 nair, intangible feet on his nair so he can land consistently, and more consistent armor on his crown throw (I say this because it's supposed to tank 14.4%. It usually does, but sometimes if he gets hit twice it just gets cancelled out, even when it shouldn't). Other than that, he's usable.
As a K. Rool main definitely not. I would say he is mid tier at best. He has some great MUs against top and high tiers. He actually beats a lot of the bottom, low and mid tiers. Honestly he deserves more recognition and a dedicated player.
He had a dedicated player named Kirbykid and he also had a decent amount of representation throughout the games lifespan with some California players. There's a reason why the best players in the world put him in the bottom 5 and it's because even with amazing talent piloting the character he still falls short which is proven by the results and drop off in playerbase using him. Krool will remain one of the worst characters in Ultimate.
@420OngBak I know those players. Yeah a lot of the best players put down a lot of characters until they are shown to be great. He is definitely not one of the worst characters but you can keep that opinion.
I personally dropped my old main of Meta Knight and decided to follow the meme hype of K Rool, and I’m glad I did. He’s brought me more wins and fun than Meta Knight could ever do. Do I struggle with him at times? Yeah, I do. But that’s where player and character knowledge comes into play. I like showing that I don’t need or want to play a top tier to win and have fun.
You'd think that with him being such a massive, heavy-hitting character, King K. Rool would be a surefire top-tier. But I'd argue he's more of a mid-tier than anything given how powerful he can be in the hands of the right player.
this logic doesn't exactly prove any point. anyone can be good with a character. it doesn't matter how you look at it. characters will always be better than some others and outclassed by others
He was in the hands of the right player his name was Kirbykid and he still couldn't do it. Krool is bad. It's okay that he's bad. Stop with the cope please
I honestly struggle a lot against him. Belly armor makes strings flat out not work sometimes, he can use it to just hit through certain recoveries and for some reason I think he's the only counter character where the move can be reversed like that, making it risky to hit him on the edge or offstage compared most counter characters
I'd argue that K Rool has enough tools to escape Bottom 10. He's not a good character, but he has a very versatile set of throws and a legitimately crazy nair. ( Sourspot nair is fucking criminally good at gimping characters. One of the easiest edgeguarding trades in the damn game lol. ) K Rool ain't DDD where his entire kit sucks donkey cock and his whole gameplan revolves around gordo and being a damage sponge. K Rool has nuance and real, albeit limited answers to the majority of the cast.
@@SonicTheCutehogbrawl doesn't count to me. Bowser was a runner up in an ultimate major but he's fallen off thanks to DLC privilege characters. Smash 4 Bowser and Donkey Kong are a notable exception but they made sure to nerf DK to the ground in ultimate.
I used to be a K rool main in the beginning of ultimate, now that I’m seeing the potential with K rool I might actually want to play him again. (Now mind you I didn’t stop playing him officially, I just use my other mains because I do better with them, and I don’t want to be a Massive combo food character).
They should've made his down throw and windbox day 1 again with the current meta making people have to not get grabbed yeah he probably still be low tier but he'll have some cheese
For me I play Steve so k rool doesn’t bother me but I use to play cloud and I hated fighting k rool. His projectiles are annoying and his movement is feels so different. Also I don’t care what people say but forward air or broken and I hate that move.
"Krool main here, gonna spew out some serious cope about how my character isn't actually dog water and how I know more than the best players in the world. Obviously Krool is mid tier! Haven't you seen how good his down smash is!?!?" lmaao you're doing a good job playing the comment game dude love the channel and always love reading the comment sections. Smash community never lets me down with how bad teenagers opinions can be
@@420OngBak I find it funny how most comments I see from the smash community are people with over bloated egos thinking they are the know so much and preceded to downplay others experiences. I have been in the community for a decade, played some of the best players in the world like Sonido, Larry Lurr, Wrath, Fatality and Kola. It's just funny when a faceless nobody tries to think they are smart or that their opinion is just the greatest. F out of here with your nonsense.
@mandalorianhunter1 listen I'm not trying to make dudes comment section toxic so I'll just say this. The best players in the world consider him bottom 5. If you think that your opinion holds more weight than their's then you're the one with a bloated ego downplaying others experiences. Very stupid
@@420OngBak yeah a lot top players thought DK and Yoshi in Melee were terrible until showed otherwise A lot of players thought Corrin was low tier until showed otherwise. A lot of people think Mewtwo is bad while Leo thinks he is underrated. Remember when Izaw posted that Steve video and yet look where the character is now. Your low intelligence is showing.
@@420OngBak since my comment didn't go through let's take a look at it this way. Yoshi and Melee were looked at as bad for a long time but look at where they are now. The same goes for Corrin in Ultimate.
Nothing low tier about this character besides his size unfortunately. Idk how people can consider this character with zoning, anti-zoning, insane damage and killpower, edgeguarding and recovery, and armour on EVERYTHING, a bad character.
K rool main here, he has a lot of traits a heavy would die for, range, counter, good horizontal recovery, and the hallmarks a heavy already has, big damage and super armor, a jack of all trades master of none, combine all his mediocre traits is where you start getting results
Valid points across the board. Except for the good horizontal recovery part. K. Rool essentially only has one way to recover from which is almost straight up.
I get horizontal and vertical mixed up, but I managed to infuriate my classmates by playing king k rool and getting results
Here's what I'll say also as a k rool main. The three things he needs imo to be solid is a frame 5 nair, intangible feet on his nair so he can land consistently, and more consistent armor on his crown throw (I say this because it's supposed to tank 14.4%. It usually does, but sometimes if he gets hit twice it just gets cancelled out, even when it shouldn't). Other than that, he's usable.
"Jack of trades master of none but oftentimes better than a master of one"
King of Skill is shaking in his boots rn.
His and King Dedede’s end lag can be really overbearing at times, especially on Dedede when his KO power is really inconsistent
I don’t care if bro is low tier or not, this guy is fun as fuck to play
This is the correct attitude yes
facts
As a K. Rool main definitely not. I would say he is mid tier at best.
He has some great MUs against top and high tiers. He actually beats a lot of the bottom, low and mid tiers.
Honestly he deserves more recognition and a dedicated player.
He had a dedicated player named Kirbykid and he also had a decent amount of representation throughout the games lifespan with some California players. There's a reason why the best players in the world put him in the bottom 5 and it's because even with amazing talent piloting the character he still falls short which is proven by the results and drop off in playerbase using him. Krool will remain one of the worst characters in Ultimate.
@420OngBak I know those players.
Yeah a lot of the best players put down a lot of characters until they are shown to be great.
He is definitely not one of the worst characters but you can keep that opinion.
I personally dropped my old main of Meta Knight and decided to follow the meme hype of K Rool, and I’m glad I did. He’s brought me more wins and fun than Meta Knight could ever do. Do I struggle with him at times? Yeah, I do. But that’s where player and character knowledge comes into play. I like showing that I don’t need or want to play a top tier to win and have fun.
. . .
*It’s on sight, traitor*
💢
Insert funny King K. Rool line from the Donkey Kong Country animated series here.
“It’s great to be a king……”
Bold of you to assume there are any
You'd think that with him being such a massive, heavy-hitting character, King K. Rool would be a surefire top-tier. But I'd argue he's more of a mid-tier than anything given how powerful he can be in the hands of the right player.
this logic doesn't exactly prove any point. anyone can be good with a character. it doesn't matter how you look at it. characters will always be better than some others and outclassed by others
He was in the hands of the right player his name was Kirbykid and he still couldn't do it. Krool is bad. It's okay that he's bad. Stop with the cope please
@@420OngBak Nigga, I wasn't saying K. Rool being bad was a bad thing. Get over yourself.
@@420OngBaknah he's mid.
No I would not think that, big characters are generally meh in smash games.
Feels like the videos audio isnt matching up with the background gameplay at times
I honestly struggle a lot against him. Belly armor makes strings flat out not work sometimes, he can use it to just hit through certain recoveries and for some reason I think he's the only counter character where the move can be reversed like that, making it risky to hit him on the edge or offstage compared most counter characters
2:13 Oh, I'm a gummy bear ahh movement
They said "let's make both him and Donkey Kong terrible."
funny fat crocodile is fire SS+ tier
King of Skill gonna make a third K Rool video to counter this
Pretty ironic since he was a most requested character for Smash.
There’s a ton of audio issues, and a lot of the visuals don’t match the script. Idk what happened but this video feels like it needs to be redone.
My friend plays King K. Rool and he's pretty good at him
I'd argue that K Rool has enough tools to escape Bottom 10. He's not a good character, but he has a very versatile set of throws and a legitimately crazy nair. ( Sourspot nair is fucking criminally good at gimping characters. One of the easiest edgeguarding trades in the damn game lol. ) K Rool ain't DDD where his entire kit sucks donkey cock and his whole gameplan revolves around gordo and being a damage sponge. K Rool has nuance and real, albeit limited answers to the majority of the cast.
Anyone else getting audio and music issues for this video?
seems like the video was edited in a rush yes...
Yep
Sadly yes. Because they refuse to let super heavyweights be good.
Brawl Snake and Dedede and Smash 4 Bowser (and Ultimate) and Donkey Kong would like a word with you
@@SonicTheCutehogbrawl doesn't count to me. Bowser was a runner up in an ultimate major but he's fallen off thanks to DLC privilege characters. Smash 4 Bowser and Donkey Kong are a notable exception but they made sure to nerf DK to the ground in ultimate.
Be careful what u wish 4.
Rob and kazuya are a glimpse into how busted that could be
@@dagoodboy6424I guarantee you they'll get nerfed hard.
@@dagoodboy6424rob and kazuya aren’t super heavies tho
I used to be a K rool main in the beginning of ultimate, now that I’m seeing the potential with K rool I might actually want to play him again. (Now mind you I didn’t stop playing him officially, I just use my other mains because I do better with them, and I don’t want to be a Massive combo food character).
Definitly not K Rool main here, thanks for the video
King of skill would say otherwise.
They should've made his down throw and windbox day 1 again with the current meta making people have to not get grabbed yeah he probably still be low tier but he'll have some cheese
First thing i think of with k rool is
brent’s monkey noises OOOOO o o o o o o o o o o 🐵🐵🐵🐵🐵🐵🐵
Low tier or not, he’s still my favorite character to see in this game!
“Do it again.”
Has a k roll co main he's definitely a mid tier people don't really know how to abuse and what mus he's actually really good in
Hes still more viable than Ganon
Low bar
@@TooCognitive Dair makes it all worth it
This video feels rushed, lot of weird lines where you randomly stopped in the middle of your point.
For me I play Steve so k rool doesn’t bother me but I use to play cloud and I hated fighting k rool. His projectiles are annoying and his movement is feels so different. Also I don’t care what people say but forward air or broken and I hate that move.
Common heavyweight problems
Make another video on HDR your other videos were so good
I still can't win against him, I hate fighting K.Rool so much...
Bruho would like a word with you.
Yes.
"Krool main here, gonna spew out some serious cope about how my character isn't actually dog water and how I know more than the best players in the world. Obviously Krool is mid tier! Haven't you seen how good his down smash is!?!?" lmaao you're doing a good job playing the comment game dude love the channel and always love reading the comment sections. Smash community never lets me down with how bad teenagers opinions can be
@@420OngBak I find it funny how most comments I see from the smash community are people with over bloated egos thinking they are the know so much and preceded to downplay others experiences.
I have been in the community for a decade, played some of the best players in the world like Sonido, Larry Lurr, Wrath, Fatality and Kola. It's just funny when a faceless nobody tries to think they are smart or that their opinion is just the greatest.
F out of here with your nonsense.
@mandalorianhunter1 listen I'm not trying to make dudes comment section toxic so I'll just say this. The best players in the world consider him bottom 5. If you think that your opinion holds more weight than their's then you're the one with a bloated ego downplaying others experiences. Very stupid
@@420OngBak yeah a lot top players thought DK and Yoshi in Melee were terrible until showed otherwise
A lot of players thought Corrin was low tier until showed otherwise. A lot of people think Mewtwo is bad while Leo thinks he is underrated. Remember when Izaw posted that Steve video and yet look where the character is now.
Your low intelligence is showing.
@@420OngBak since my comment didn't go through let's take a look at it this way.
Yoshi and Melee were looked at as bad for a long time but look at where they are now.
The same goes for Corrin in Ultimate.
haha funny croc shoot gun
Nothing low tier about this character besides his size unfortunately. Idk how people can consider this character with zoning, anti-zoning, insane damage and killpower, edgeguarding and recovery, and armour on EVERYTHING, a bad character.
I'm a K. Rool main
Quick answer is yes
No way King K rool is good
I think hes mid tier
:(
3:25 a meteor smash and a spike are not the same thing. They are spikes not meteors
Hate to break it to you, but they are definitely the same thing 😂😂😂
Meteors and spikes are the same in ultimate, this ain’t melee buddy
If you listen closely, you can hear Brent charging a down smash with malicious intent in the background