Chemical engineer here. Activated charcoal uses physical adsorption as its method of action, and only removes organics, and some suspended solids. Ion exchange beads use chemical absorption to remove the dissolved ions.
Thank you for that video, it was extremely informative. I did not have a very good understanding of testing water. Honestly, I thought it was more complicated that what was shown!!!! Thanks again, "Stay Slick!"
Holy crap!!! We are lucky here on the west coast of Canada, the water straight out of my tap has a reading of about 45, I wash one of my cars about once every 10 days and after close to 5 years my CR Spotless DIC-20 is still reading 0 😁 Thanks for the video.
the carbon filters only affect taste and Oder caused by chemicals the carbon absorbs the chemicals from the water but will put carbon into the water witch causes a high ppm
Wow! That's crazy how ineffective those filters were. I was going to use those as I also saw them at WalMart and thought, "Hmm....these might be at least better than nothing on my water hose". But I am glad you did this testing to discover it's probably a waste of money to get those in-line water filters. At least for detailing purposes when you want as low as possible in the parts per million.
Flow rate… They are max 1.5-2.5. Over that you are overpowering the filtration. I mostly rinse-less wash now, so I use two RV filters in line. Chlorine to mineral. I’m usually 64 ppm at tap, nothing changes on full blast from the spigot. But, if I throttle down the flow rate, I get down to 0-1ppm. I just make 10-15 gallons at a time.
Appreciate the tests you did. Had a friend try to convince me that mobile home filters work great...but your tests prove that they don't. I have a Zero Water filter and a tds unit like you have. Change the filter about every 2 months. Can't find an inexpensive filter system to wash the cars yet.
Yeah, it really depends on your day-to-day operation. If you’re doing it for a business that makes sense to rent something if you’re doing it personally it’s hard to say. I rent it from a local water company and I have to exchange the tank about every other month.
All these tanks are is di resin packed to the gills and water is filtered through it. The filter you show would probably get zero TDS if you had throttled the water flow down a bit, provided that these are indeed DI resin filled. Buying the di resin and regenerating it when it’s done might save you money. Thats basically what you’re renting from culligan. I bet they regenerate the di resin when the tanks are swapped.
It would be interesting to see the numbers if you ran two or three of those filters in the same line. I've been using them also, in hopes that water spotting would be lower, but really can't tell a significant difference.
I was getting so excited!!! Here in England, the water is like acid! Especially, on a black Tesla. So, in the booming heat, I do the car as quickly as possible, then I buy a 2litre bottle of de-ionised water and put it in a sprayer and liberally go over the car before the heat dries the tap water. I need to test the bottles of de-ionised water now with one of those PPM devices thingys. Tried doing a car in 106f = 41C… big mistake, as the heat nearly killed me and the car 😂
Yeah idk who told you that those give deionized water they don’t and they can’t. They only filter out chlorine, and non dissolved solids. The 1 micron doesn’t equate to 1ppm removal that just stands for the the size of the particle that it would have to be for it to pass through. The reason you see a higher increase in the ppm is because they are designed to have water flow through them at very low rate.
Yeah honestly I knew it wouldn’t work I was extremely skeptical before because of my experience with the blue filters. But it was worth a try and made for a good video
Carbon is increasing the conductivity of the water, you need an RO system then a DI resin tank. The RO will make the resin last almost forever compared to just tap water.
What's up my boy?! Love your content and would love to know what you pay for your tank and how many gallons you estimate between switching out tanks . Thank you sir!
I’m in the market for a water softener/ deionizer system, but most seem to be good for only a few hundred gallons? Doesn’t seem worth it if I’m using hundreds a week. What’s the best solution for bulk amounts?? Great vid I was about to turn to these cheap filters
I use rain water which has a tds of about 36. I then use a white filter to filter the water and it goes up to 48...makes no sense. I then use D.I. resin to bring it back down. I believe it's around 12ish. No water spots.
Ok I'm no detailing expert but what if you put all this time and effort into a DI setup but you dont have a garage to park in or it rains while you're out? You're back at square one with water spots, no? You cant go outside and dry it every time it rains lol
Thanks for the video I currently live in Columbus, ohio...just got into detailing a few months ago I use a water pressure gauge in combo with a camco taste pure 40043 for right now (straight RV set up with no RV haha)....seems to be ok for now...been using it since the beginning of summer Also...I bought some of the green mirror shine ceramic spray on and rinse off stuff.....my customers are definitely staying slick
idk if its just my brain thinking it, but when I was using it, I noticed the water stayed on the car longer, and when there was water spots, they were bigger and took longer to develop, maybe thats just me, but idk. at like $30 for the filter, you'd expect it to work ya know
Yeah but technically it does do what it says it’s gonna do which is filter water and improve the taste because that’s really what it’s for. So it makes sense that it adds minerals to the water to reason that I and other people have tested this is because there are people out there who say this works to prevent water spots but it does not
They have a specific filter just for car wash on eBay made by country called aqua crest. I wonder if it would have similar results or if it's made differently
So why is this deionised water so important, don;t you dry your vehicles with a towel if your a detailer? Now Fleetwash, could you afford the filters? I'm confused about the deionezed water? And what is a bad TDS, mine is about 75-100
The point of the ionized water is peace of mind. If you have the Enos water, there’s a 0% chance she will get water spots. When you’re working out in the heat in direct sunlight like most mobile detailers, do there’s always a chance of water drying on the vehicle. A good TDS is 20 or less.
That’s crazy , funny you made this video . I also live in northern Central Valley and the water sucks . Very hard water I bought a white filter thinking I was getting some better water . I have a water softener and even tho I have that system it leaves water spots on the dishes . What type of dionized system you recommend ?
Yes sir I will look into it . So what’s the difference from dionized water and a water softener system . I have the water softener system but my front connection where I tie the water hose is not treated .
Because these filters actually add total dissolved solids I would recommend not using a filter at all. A trick you can use is once you just finished rinsing the soap off after your contact wash spray the whole vehicle down with ONR and then just go back and dry the vehicle like normal. ONR actually softens the water and prevents water spots.
It because the carbon filters only affect taste and Oder caused by chemicals the carbon absorbs the chemicals from the water but will put carbon into the water witch causes a high ppm
I don’t get how the numbers would increase with the filters. Makes no sense to me. These aren’t deionizing filters. They aren’t meant to filter out the minerals which is what you’re measuring. That’s what’s good about these. It allows your body to intake the required minerals needed. I also looked at this green filter in Walmarts website. I couldn’t find anything that said anything about the PPM. It does say it filters down to a micron. Which is good. It doesn’t filter the healthy minerals your body needs. Which is also good. Unless you’re washing cars. You need a deionization filtration system like your Culligan.
@@StaySlick Thank you ill try it, I have also seen prople spray like spray wax right before they rinse the vehicle down. What are your thoughts about that method?
I have the On-the-Go DI water system and went from 425ppm to 0ppm! I only use it once in awhile for a final rinse. I had tried one of these before and it lowered the ppm a little.
And good to hear that it works for you I haven’t heard of that one so I have to check it out. Yeah I think if you have a really really hard water like 300 for 400 and above and this could be a benefit on a budget but otherwise it really does nothing
? you're doing it wrong. you can't open the spigot all the way you have to just let the filters absorb just the amountwhat it can hold inside. to get low numbers which defeats the purpose it would take a whole day to get a good amount of spot free water run the hose spigot barely open though it for 10 min then start checking less slower it filters the better. it's the same price to go buy 90 gallons di water than to invest in anything that you can do it yourself with so just go full up at place with di water. don't be fooled into getting these things
Chemical engineer here. Activated charcoal uses physical adsorption as its method of action, and only removes organics, and some suspended solids. Ion exchange beads use chemical absorption to remove the dissolved ions.
Very good info thank you sir
Thank you for that video, it was extremely informative. I did not have a very good understanding of testing water. Honestly, I thought it was more complicated that what was shown!!!! Thanks again, "Stay Slick!"
Holy crap!!! We are lucky here on the west coast of Canada, the water straight out of my tap has a reading of about 45, I wash one of my cars about once every 10 days and after close to 5 years my CR Spotless DIC-20 is still reading 0 😁 Thanks for the video.
💪🏾💯 thanks champion videos are cool & informative + I don’t get anxiety watching your videos unlike others detailers lol. Great work my guy!
Thank you lol. Glad to help. Stay Slick 🤙🏽
the carbon filters only affect taste and Oder caused by chemicals the carbon absorbs the chemicals from the water but will put carbon into the water witch causes a high ppm
My TDS level here in Oxnard California is 668! Of course i use a DI tank all the time for my business and personal use.
Dammit that’s crazy man.
You must change resin a lot. You need a RO unit before the DI if stationary.
Port Hueneme.
Wow! That's crazy how ineffective those filters were. I was going to use those as I also saw them at WalMart and thought, "Hmm....these might be at least better than nothing on my water hose". But I am glad you did this testing to discover it's probably a waste of money to get those in-line water filters. At least for detailing purposes when you want as low as possible in the parts per million.
I appreciate you for doing this comparison video bro! God bless!
Flow rate…
They are max 1.5-2.5. Over that you are overpowering the filtration. I mostly rinse-less wash now, so I use two RV filters in line. Chlorine to mineral. I’m usually 64 ppm at tap, nothing changes on full blast from the spigot. But, if I throttle down the flow rate, I get down to 0-1ppm. I just make 10-15 gallons at a time.
Appreciate the tests you did. Had a friend try to convince me that mobile home filters work great...but your tests prove that they don't.
I have a Zero Water filter and a tds unit like you have. Change the filter about every 2 months. Can't find an inexpensive filter system to wash the cars yet.
Yeah, it really depends on your day-to-day operation. If you’re doing it for a business that makes sense to rent something if you’re doing it personally it’s hard to say. I rent it from a local water company and I have to exchange the tank about every other month.
All these tanks are is di resin packed to the gills and water is filtered through it. The filter you show would probably get zero TDS if you had throttled the water flow down a bit, provided that these are indeed DI resin filled. Buying the di resin and regenerating it when it’s done might save you money. Thats basically what you’re renting from culligan. I bet they regenerate the di resin when the tanks are swapped.
I’m working on setting up my home car wash setup and was trying to figure out what the tank is for.. makes sense now I appreciate it!
Yep 0 chance of water spots
Can you do a video describing your DI water system? Cost, set-up, rental, etc. Thanks!
Should test this with a PSI gauge and make sure your under 60 PSI so you can give these filters the best chance
It would be interesting to see the numbers if you ran two or three of those filters in the same line. I've been using them also, in hopes that water spotting would be lower, but really can't tell a significant difference.
I’ve done 2 in line and only saw a very minimal drop. You get diminishing returns.
Great video bro thanks for sharing this info 💪💪👍👍
Not a problem thank you for watching
I was getting so excited!!! Here in England, the water is like acid! Especially, on a black Tesla. So, in the booming heat, I do the car as quickly as possible, then I buy a 2litre bottle of de-ionised water and put it in a sprayer and liberally go over the car before the heat dries the tap water. I need to test the bottles of de-ionised water now with one of those PPM devices thingys. Tried doing a car in 106f = 41C… big mistake, as the heat nearly killed me and the car 😂
How much are you paying per litre in England?
The chemistry was wrong out of the blocks. A carbon filter isn't going to remove TDS. That requires a resin bed. I'm sure it tastes better.
Yes exactly. I was just testing the claims made by others
1 micron means it removes particles up to micron ! That’s a chlorine remover
I had the same result. It does make the water taste great. It doesn't stop water spots unfortunately.
Yeah idk who told you that those give deionized water they don’t and they can’t. They only filter out chlorine, and non dissolved solids. The 1 micron doesn’t equate to 1ppm removal that just stands for the the size of the particle that it would have to be for it to pass through. The reason you see a higher increase in the ppm is because they are designed to have water flow through them at very low rate.
Yeah honestly I knew it wouldn’t work I was extremely skeptical before because of my experience with the blue filters. But it was worth a try and made for a good video
Carbon is increasing the conductivity of the water, you need an RO system then a DI resin tank. The RO will make the resin last almost forever compared to just tap water.
What's up my boy?! Love your content and would love to know what you pay for your tank and how many gallons you estimate between switching out tanks . Thank you sir!
Any ppm under 50 is good. I use an RO system that brings my water from 255 to 12-15ppm completely spot free. DI is just too expensive imo
Nice do you have a link?
I’m in the market for a water softener/ deionizer system, but most seem to be good for only a few hundred gallons? Doesn’t seem worth it if I’m using hundreds a week. What’s the best solution for bulk amounts?? Great vid I was about to turn to these cheap filters
Hey brotha thanks for watching. I would look into renting a tank from a local water company. That’s what I do here and it averages around $70/mo
I’m from Fresno, home of the Tri-Tip Sandwhiches and you know your from Fresno when
I use rain water which has a tds of about 36. I then use a white filter to filter the water and it goes up to 48...makes no sense. I then use D.I. resin to bring it back down. I believe it's around 12ish. No water spots.
I can’t tell if youre being serious or not
@@StaySlick I would say he's being serious. Rain water has a low TDS, I think he actually has a good idea.
Thanks. I have a DI water system on the way and was wondering if I'd wasted my money... guess I didn't!
Ok I'm no detailing expert but what if you put all this time and effort into a DI setup but you dont have a garage to park in or it rains while you're out? You're back at square one with water spots, no? You cant go outside and dry it every time it rains lol
If you look it up most rain isn’t high is calcium deposits it’s ground water that you need to be worried about (ex sprinklers)
Thanks for the video
I currently live in Columbus, ohio...just got into detailing a few months ago
I use a water pressure gauge in combo with a camco taste pure 40043 for right now (straight RV set up with no RV haha)....seems to be ok for now...been using it since the beginning of summer
Also...I bought some of the green mirror shine ceramic spray on and rinse off stuff.....my customers are definitely staying slick
Right on bro keep it up.
Thank you for running those tests
No problem thank you for watching
idk if its just my brain thinking it, but when I was using it, I noticed the water stayed on the car longer, and when there was water spots, they were bigger and took longer to develop, maybe thats just me, but idk. at like $30 for the filter, you'd expect it to work ya know
Yeah but technically it does do what it says it’s gonna do which is filter water and improve the taste because that’s really what it’s for. So it makes sense that it adds minerals to the water to reason that I and other people have tested this is because there are people out there who say this works to prevent water spots but it does not
you said you rent the DI tank. what's the name of the company you rent it from? Thanks!!
Culligan water
They have a specific filter just for car wash on eBay made by country called aqua crest. I wonder if it would have similar results or if it's made differently
Those filters are for filtering for Chlorine, etc. They are not meant for deionizing. They are drinking water filters.
Yes that is what I said. I feel like I keep repeating myself. This video was ONLY because others said it was effective not because I thought it was.
Thank you for that I am learning so this was helpful:). Good job man:).?
Right on man no worries.
Thanks for the video... man i was hoping it would work... im on the fence to get an onthego tank...
Me too man.
You should try stacking two of them and see if that works
Great job Gary 👍
Thank you sir
Did you decontaminate the reader before between each test?
Yes I used the tds Decon soap from Maxshine
What system do you have? I currently pay 10¢a gal but the shop is far away so I’d like to get my own system
So why is this deionised water so important, don;t you dry your vehicles with a towel if your a detailer? Now Fleetwash, could you afford the filters? I'm confused about the deionezed water? And what is a bad TDS, mine is about 75-100
The point of the ionized water is peace of mind. If you have the Enos water, there’s a 0% chance she will get water spots. When you’re working out in the heat in direct sunlight like most mobile detailers, do there’s always a chance of water drying on the vehicle. A good TDS is 20 or less.
@@StaySlick SO my PPM is around 85-100, Do I need this
What size is you DI tank? Also based on your size how many gallons are you suppose to get? Thanks in advance
That’s crazy , funny you made this video . I also live in northern Central Valley and the water sucks . Very hard water I bought a white filter thinking I was getting some better water . I have a water softener and even tho I have that system it leaves water spots on the dishes . What type of dionized system you recommend ?
What city exactly are you in? Here in Fresno we have culligan water if you want to rent otherwise I hear the cr spotless is the way to go.
@@StaySlick I’m in Patterson
Ok I’m familiar with Patterson. I would look into water companies in Turlock or Modesto ceres.
Unless you think Patterson has one I know it’s a pretty small town
Yes sir I will look into it . So what’s the difference from dionized water and a water softener system . I have the water softener system but my front connection where I tie the water hose is not treated .
What about using one of those inline filters for washing, but then rinsing with distilled water?
Because these filters actually add total dissolved solids I would recommend not using a filter at all. A trick you can use is once you just finished rinsing the soap off after your contact wash spray the whole vehicle down with ONR and then just go back and dry the vehicle like normal. ONR actually softens the water and prevents water spots.
How long has it been since you switched the di system out
Probably 2-2.5 months.
Can you use a DI system until your PPM is up to 50ish then change out resin? Does it ruin the tank if it gets up too high?
I would say 30 is good. No need to switch it out at 10 like most people say
How is possible?? A carbon filter binds and filters water so it is cleaner. I can't believe unfiltered water is lower PPM.....lol
Crazy right
It because the carbon filters only affect taste and Oder caused by chemicals the carbon absorbs the chemicals from the water but will put carbon into the water witch causes a high ppm
Exactly
How about if you put 2 of those RV water filters in one line, will it be better?
I tried it, and it was marginal at best
@@StaySlick Does it completely slows down the flow with 2 filters?
Where do you get your rental tank Im from the Central Valley
Here in Fresno we have culligan
You just call and ask them for one? Because I’m from Manteca we have one here too but the next town over
Also is it attached to your home water or it’s just a tank by itself?
How many gallons do you get out of your Di tank before you have to change?
I’ve never measured that. I get about 2 months
How many gallons do you get out of your system?
You don't have to be sorry, Boss...
Walmart does!!😮
Truth
Yo slick how what di tank do you use
Sir how do get 0tds....Cation Resin and Anion Resin. In separately..
Do you still towel dry to buff in rinse aid, spray wax, etc.?
Yes sir
Good video brother.👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you brother.
I don’t get how the numbers would increase with the filters. Makes no sense to me. These aren’t deionizing filters. They aren’t meant to filter out the minerals which is what you’re measuring. That’s what’s good about these. It allows your body to intake the required minerals needed. I also looked at this green filter in Walmarts website. I couldn’t find anything that said anything about the PPM. It does say it filters down to a micron. Which is good. It doesn’t filter the healthy minerals your body needs. Which is also good. Unless you’re washing cars. You need a deionization filtration system like your Culligan.
If you’ve ever read the labels on bottled water it might say “minerals added for flavor.” It’s the same concept here.
if I place absolute from p&s in my water tank would that help avoid waterspots since its a rinseless product?
Ehhh I wouldn’t do that if I were you I would just spray the car down with rinseless while it’s wet after rinsing the soap off.
@@StaySlick Thank you ill try it, I have also seen prople spray like spray wax right before they rinse the vehicle down. What are your thoughts about that method?
I have the On-the-Go DI water system and went from 425ppm to 0ppm! I only use it once in awhile for a final rinse. I had tried one of these before and it lowered the ppm a little.
And good to hear that it works for you I haven’t heard of that one so I have to check it out. Yeah I think if you have a really really hard water like 300 for 400 and above and this could be a benefit on a budget but otherwise it really does nothing
Best DI tank system ?
I rent from a local water store.
Time for me to pull the trigger on a di tank
Do it bro
Thanks bro
No problem.
? you're doing it wrong. you can't open the spigot all the way you have to just let the filters absorb just the amountwhat it can hold inside. to get low numbers which defeats the purpose it would take a whole day to get a good amount of spot free water run the hose spigot barely open though it for 10 min then start checking less slower it filters the better. it's the same price to go buy 90 gallons di water than to invest in anything that you can do it yourself with so just go full up at place with di water. don't be fooled into getting these things
Did you watch the whole video? I said that some people were saying it worked. I obviously didn’t believe this hence why I made the video.
NOT 400 and 6.!! 400.6? And means decimal point when are people going to be educated to the point where they comprehend what they
NOTHING says the green one IS a deionizer!! Daaaaa
Whoa u got me bro. Dang
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Thank you 🙏🏼
How many car washes do you get with your di?
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Alleged pro detailers should NOT exceed 5ppm on the vehicle of a paying customer.
Tsk tsk tsk
Fail 👎🏼
You must use it .look in the mirror.
Huh?
200 is great here in LA we at 425+
200 isn’t great anywhere. 0 is great everywhere. 🤙🏽
@@StaySlick I would be thrilled to detail with such low ppm. I. Averaging 450 here in LA but you right