Leica Q or Leica Q2? | Is There a "Right" Choice?
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Today we are talking about the Leica Q vs the Leica Q2 and which is right for you.
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I’m just amazed of how you’re able to talk continuously like that while keeping on points and interesting. RESPECT .
i thought he was editing his audios too LOL, but thats how he talks apparently ;)
I was one of the "lucky" ones that picked up the Q-P, brand new and heavily discounted from Leica right before they got discontinued. It was still an expensive purchase, no doubt, but it was worth every penny. I tried the Q2 at a Leica store in Madrid last December and after weighting out the price difference and specs, the Q-P seemed like a no brainer for me at half the price of a Q2, brand new. Best camera I have ever owned, hands down.
Didn’t want the weather sealing? I have the Q and am contemplating an upgrade just for the ability of not worrying about the rain.
Sanjay Vallabh I don’t typically go out shooting under harsh conditions. I live in FL and although it rains a lot during the summer, it’s pretty much hot all year.
We are at a point where any camera that came out in the past few years is perfectly useable and it’s a wonderful time
Well, most of folks post on instagram or facebook anyway. So, an iPhone 12 Pro Max do the job.
Buying a Leica is like buying a piece of art.
Dude is reading my mind with these videos now, lol. Q2-P looks like something I'll be waiting patiently for.
Haha I know right ! We just talked about it yesterday 😝
Any idea when that will happen?
I had both and prefer the Q sold the q2. The q has so much better image stabilization.
Nathan Dutch My guess would be 2022. I don’t imagine it coming out next year.
Same here !!!
Would have liked if you tested it more in low light. That's really what a lot of people have been torn about between the Q and Q2.
I recently made a choice between the Q and Q2. I went for a used Q-P. I am surprised more people do not comment, as you rightly did, about the fact that a 28mm image cropped to 35mm, 50mm or 75mm is not the same as an image that originated on a 35mm, 50mm or 75mm lens. If Leica made an additional Q series camera with a 35mm or 50mm lens attached, I'd rather have two camera versions than one which is "croppable". I only ever make minor crops to my images anyway, so 24mp is fine for me for street photography.
One other thing I like about the Q-P is the lack of the red Leica brand button. I use the camera in city back-streets where I cringe at the thought of looking smug with my expensive Leica camera. The Q-P makes me feel a lot less self-conscious. For the same reason I would never wear a Rolex.
The Summilux lens on the Leica Q/Q2 is absolutely superb; a joy to use. By the way Evan; I think your photography is outstanding. Thank you.
Patiently waiting to see what the Q2-P is going to look like. The look of the Q-P is just so damn slick.
Love my Q2 and must confess you and your videos brought me there. I originally wanted to get a refurbished M9, but the seller showed me this one and it was love at first sight.
Q2 is my favorite digital camera I’ve ever owned. Boom.
I’m a big fan of the QP. Is my go to street photography camera. I believe that 24 mega pixel is perfect for street. I would just love some weather sealing but other than that is one of my favorites. The Q 2 like you said if you need the extra reach with more resolution then boom is the one to go with. If I was a new to Leica I would take advantage of the q or QP since it should be available for a bargain.
actually for the Q-P it is not...theyre seliing it at crzy price from $3,200 to 3,850 depends on condition
@@bak2mb is a limited edition camera that’s why but I bought mine for a relatively cheap price. So it depends when you search for it. Now everyone knows that the QP and the q will be cheaper due to the q2
wit the price of those cameras... this a rich man's conversation😂
lol ikr...wonder how many of his subs can actually afford it.
Hustle your credit....sell your gear....talk to the banker about a business loan....
Sold all my Canon gear. Got a Q-P and a SL2 with a 75mm SL APO. So it’s affordable if you strategically aim for it.
Quick note- when I was talking about the crop modes I should have mentioned the crop is applied to the image when you load it into Adobe Lightroom BUT the raw file itself is still the full size version (no crop applied) I’m sorry if this was confusing to anyone. What did y’all think about the audio on this one? Its cleaner but did it feel too much like a podcast? Let me know! Also big shoutout to all the Patreon members! I just posted a new Q&A video on there for the month of July, go check it out! ---- Side note correction 2- someone messaged me with some mind blowing info. The Q does have an interval mode but it’s hidden in the menu. You have to go to scene mode and then time lapse all the way at the bottom.
Sounds great!
Audio good, what is the strap you have on the Leica Q ?
The sound quality is fine on my MacBook. But you look awkward trying to speak into a mic that's off on your side.
The sensor of Leica Q has a richer color than Leica Q2.
I can't agree more. There is something in Q's 24MP sensor.
Interesting! I am thinking of buying a used q. Does the q behave better (less noise?) than the q2?
Watch the old DP Review on the Q2. It said it was noisy in low light. The Q is better because of the lower resolution
Only reason I would want that Q2 is for the weather sealing...all the other stuff I can do without... I'm definitely more interested in the Q-P (edit* a week after making this comment I picked up the Q-P and absolutely love it... makes me want an M10-P haha)
I will often shoot at ISO at 1600 or a bit higher, and the Q2 images (I test drove one) are pretty grainy over 1600. The new Q3 (yup, more money) addressed that by using a backlit sensor, but in this regard, the Q and Q-P lower pixel count might actually be a benefit. But then there's weather sealing, which doesn't just protect against water but also dust.
What you did forget is the battery difference (which means higher cost for spare batteries on the Q2). I love my Q and don't miss the Q2 features and especially not the higher resolution. Cheers from Switzerland
great video! you’re my favorite photographer even since I saw your book and bought it, keep up the good work 🙌🏼
Honestly, the best thing about this video is that hat! Fresh af!!!
It’s the only thing in this video I could afford
Waiting for a Q2P, hopefully (fingers crossed they make one) as the upgrade from my QP. I love the look, finish, script, and “stealthy” feel of the Leica “P” cameras. Nice problem to have I guess.
awesome video thanks. Personally I fancied the Q for the more IMHO manageable files sizes, but I went for the Q2 as it's newer and is weather sealed. I had the Q2 for 14 days until I killed it at an arts show, the camera took a direct hit from a laser and fried the sensor. It's currently on the way to Germany. I have my eye on a used, and damaged Q going cheap locally. The damage is the LCD doesnt work so everything is done in the EVF. I'm fine with that.
holy shit how did a lazer just fry it
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Great Vid. (Always good to show photo examples; like this is the Q(2) at ‘50’, at ‘75’, compared to a real 50 & 75 ...).
Strongly prefer 24 megapixels of the Q. The Q2 is also noticeably worse in low light. Leica also said that the Q2 weather sealing deteriorates over time. The small ergonomic changes of the Q2 are nice though and the OLED EVF is way better on the Q2. I'd still choose the Q for the price especially if you have an M10 or SL and you want similar files to work with. Get Q2 if you shoot the SL2 or M10R.
Good points right here 👆
Dude I like your content! I have have the Q2. It’s a beast... it’s that Q 3D image quality with more room to crop. As my only camera that res was important to me. If I had multiple cameras then I would have gotten the QP. I think low light noise chatter is a little over blown. It’s twice the resolution so everything is magnified. I also don’t shot is pitch darkness. Same argument as the focus length 95% of what I shot is wide so it works for me... if 95% of you shoot isn’t in the dark, then it’s still works.
Evan, love the videos. I've been following you for awhile. and really enjoy the street photos around Atlanta. From watching your videos, I'm seriously thinking about the Q2. Been a Nikon shooter for years, not replacing my Nikon D850 or D750. I bought the Z6, but not very happy with it. I'm deciding on used Q or splurge for a new Q2. Tough decision.
Minimalistic design / less buttons on the Q2 makes it more aesthetic in my opinion. really love the Q2 and it‘s Build- and image quality . Beautiful all around camera. 10/10
QP. Does what I want, nondescript, and I love it.
Excellent review-thanks. Does the q perform better in low light? I am a wedding photographer thinking of buying either one and would prefer low light over resolution. Advice welcomed.
hope you would have discussed more on the image quality side by side
i got my QP around the time the Q2 came out. There was virtually no information comparing the 2. I wish I had gotten the Q2. The higher resolution would be so nice.
u want to sell me your Q-P? lol
@@bak2mb it’s up for sale on my offerup.
Audio is great! However, it’s awkward seeing you talk to the microphone and not to the camera. Your eyes move away from the camera like you don’t know where to look while you are talking to the microphone. It’s a disconnect thing. Maybe if the mic was in line with the camera somehow, you could still be facing it while looking directly forward at the camera. I don’t know. Maybe it’s just me. Just looked awkward.
Nice! I got the Q2 from my local Leica store in WA because of your videos! I chose the Q2 since Seattle gets awfully rainy... also dat 40+ MP
Awesome! Hope you’re enjoying it!!
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Great comparison, I have the Q and happy with the automation, my upgrade will be the M10-R in a few years...btw, when do you take a breath...
Back in 2020 I bought a second hand almost not used Q, because I was looking for a LUX 28 for my M 240. The Q was in mint condition and came for 2,700 USD. That was far cheaper than a second hand LUX 28 and I got a camera body for free. A big plus over the Q2 is the on/off switch with the selector for single and continue shooting. That's the same feature as on the M 240 and M-P 240. I'm not cropping to 35 and 50 because I've a LUX 50 and SUM 90 for my Ms, but the video feature I've used several times for short clips for a local online newspaper. I keep the Q on 12 MP on daily use. Only when shooting macro, I often switch to 24 MP. The Q can be kind of weather sealed by taping over the microphone and loudspeaker holes. To get a better grip on the Q, I've put a small stripe of anti slip tape in the mould (?)/ grip hole. The Q is not my first camera, it's a wide angel/macro/backup camera - and it's cool.
Nobody EVER discusses that this is a different sensor made by another manufacturer. Its only MP, but a sensor is not a sensor and if you take the MP out of the equation, the rendering of the Q sensor in combination with the Maestro is spot on for me. Love the cinematic feel of the images that come straight out of camera. From what I have seen, the Q2 isn't as pleasing to me? Would love to see side by side images comparing this! Maybe the Q has more "Leica Look" than the Q2 - it's possible they weren't able to get that "magic" on this verison - it happens.
i had both and stayed with the Q. i found the sensor on the q2 to have slightly better color but had a lot more noise in low light. my theory is that when the Q came out leica had never done something like this before and did a huge overkill on the image stabilization thus making the Q still very relevant today. they realized this and changed the stabilizer on the q-p and the q2. neither are as good in low light as the Q. having tried both i prefer the Q but if i could have both i would. they are very different in terms of sensor.
Thanks@@crayon2323, very informative. Its just so personal and its great that these Leicas are built so well - means we can continue shooting our Q's for a long time to come.
bought a used Q im so excited to get it in the mail
I have hankered after a Leica Q for the past few years. But I have never hankered after more megapixels.
The best camera I have ever owned, and I still worship is the Nikon Df, it is amazing - but the files are 16MP, and I fail to see what I would get for more - other than file size. It is a lowlight super beast, and many professionals have one in their bag, for the reliability, and amazing image quality.
I still want a Q, but it is worth noting MP is not everything.
Great video Evan! Also noticed you're wearing a Sinn U1, are you a watch fan by chance? If so what tips can you give for better watch photography. Thanks!
Ayyye I’m first comment. Love your work my man been watching you since the start!
Kael Hoffman really means a lot! Thanks for being apart of the channel!
Aye aye! Evan love your videos they always get me hyped up to go shoot!
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Hey Evan. Great Vid! Do you personally like the girth difference??
Mannn that snap back is 🔥🔥🔥
I would add to be careful on used Q/Q2 ; if previous owner did a lot of videos, you'll have sensor issue way faster than someone who used it primarily for photos. And you don't want to spend the economy you did over a new one, on a sensor replacement at Leica. Something to keep in mind.
More resolution is not always a good thing... Sony just announced the Sony a7s III. It “only” has 12MP, but because of that, it’s a beast in low light
I'm agree, and due to being a Sony (a9) User I think about the A7siii, but the Q is tempting and becomes more affordable in the future, I think I'll give it a go even my wife will kill me if she finds out
One additional thing: high ISO on the Q2 is worse than on the Q (and the Q ain't great to begin with). And if you need high res, Topaz Gigapixel AI has you covered. So you can just increase the resolution of the 24MP files that need it during post-production.
Sorry, but can you explain what that is, no joke, I'd like to know...
Topaz giga pixels, I've never heard of this???
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Ya I was planing to buy the q2 soon
dope vid my guy! been here since around 30K subs
Wow means a lot that you’re still here watching! 🙏 thank you!
I like the Q2 have weather seal and using SL battery.
For the life of me, I don’t understand the Q attraction. Everything and more on the Q is better on the cl for most shooters in my opinion. The cl’s crop sensor is just fine and besides, your (changeable!) 50mm lens gets you to 75 w/o sacrificing megapixels! Not even the Q2 does that.
Thank you Evan for this great review and for the fun way you present it. I am struggeling a lot. 2 years ago I bought a Leica M10-P with the 35mm Summilux. I love it and after a heard day of work I can relax by going for a walk with the M or on my vacations shes a great companion. But I miss some things. For doing shootings sometimes I need AF. During my travelling I want to make videos. So I am thinking about selling the M and buying a Q2. What do you think about this idea? I also have the problem that I do not feel good to have such an expensive camera as the M. Ok the Q2 isnt cheap at all. But its nearly the half. Thanks :)
Keep the M, you'll regret selling it. Sell the LUX 35 and get a LUX or CRON 50 and find a second hand Q. See my comment above.
Quick question - Q2 or M10R? I shoot mainly landscape and I'm wondering which would suit me better really?
Great video. Your mic link is for the Rode VideoMic Pro+ on-camera shotgun. What's the mic you're using on the desk?
Literally just splurged on a Q2 last week. It's a pricey one, but damn is it one beautiful machine. I can see why they refer to these point and shoots as "gateway" Leicas. Which is funny given it has the largest sensor of any of their cameras lol.
I picked up the handgrip on the side and it's honestly my favorite set up to date...running and gunning with some seriously stupid power.
The S3 has a bigger sensor :)
How are the colors between the two?
after watching your vid, am now seriously on the fence on getting either!
(on a sidenote, may i ask what mic you're using. tia)
I had the Q and now have the Q2. Both are inferior to my Fujis (24mp) at high ISO, even at ISO 1600. Not greatly but definitely noticeable.The Q is a tad better than the Q2 at high ISO and that's debatable. If you shoot lots at ISO 6400 (I do) such as interiors they're both do a respectable job but a good recent apsc such as a Fuji will do better. Anyone interested I'd say get a used Q.
totally agree, i have both and leica q sucks at low light, the fuji does better in iso and colors in low light situations. But... at outdoors leica is better, mostly in landscapes. Anyway xpro2 has changable lenses, leica q does not, so both cameras can do really good job, it's up to you, you can't go wrong with any of this two.
@@charliobrown3960 Yep, bang on. This doesn't mean of course the Leica's aren't any good for iso 6400, they're just not 'that' good. With a bit of messin about in PP the Q/Q2 at 6400 can be OK.
Having to dive into the menu each time you want to switch between single and continuous shooting s a downgrade
Just EV comp down both cameras as they blow out the whites (I own both)
I did drop a video about both; I reached the same(ish) opinion; but if I had to pick it would be Q2
also I just got an M8; Leica is a gateway drug, to more Leicas :P
Dope vid !
Shout out to your hat 🔥🔥
That squarespace ad was ridiculously long
Is the square that shows the different focal lengths only on JPG? I thought it was RAW also (but obviously the RAW still has the full 28mm focal length). My plan for buying this will be be use it as 35mm and almost use the additional space around as almost a rangefinder kind of view (so you can watch people coming into frame).
Have you had any issues with sensor spots with the Q2? If so how do you clean the sensor?
Hi Evan, do you use protective filter/UV filter on your Q-P or just the hood for front element protection? Thanks, Mads
Q2 over Q means more pixel and weatherproof for me. If a Leica Q is the only camera I will own, i would choose the Q2. On the other hand, my other camera is a Sony A7M3 with some very fine lenses (you should try out the Zeiss 55mm/f1.8 - so beautiful). So i choosed the Leica Q (Type 116). For me, my Q offers me a complete different way to take photos than any other camera I used before. When it comes to handling and finding pictures the Q feels more like my old Mamiya 645 Super . You (well, I do) look different to the world with a Q in your hand. My Q slows me down to get more of the scenes I'm in, but is fast enough to react to special situations.
Portland is sodden making the Q and Q-P non starters if one uses a single camera for street/outdoor photography.
You hit it right on the nose when it comes to deciding which one to get. I've owned Q's and currently carry a Q2. Unless as you indicated that you need the new features - Q2. If you can work with the specs of the Q or Q-P - it will be just fine.
On the q2 when cropped to 35mm do you get the evf filled with cropped image?
Maybe you could answer a big question that I have a hard time getting an answer to . Does the JPGS are the same kind of quality ? ( resolution appart )
I can’t get an answer as to the sooc JPEG’s out of Qs , Q2’s and m10 are the same or much improved on later camera
Thanks
Bo Ho files from Q looks different than M10. Depends what lens used of course but i had M10 and now Q.
Tanel Tinnuri thanks 🙏 didn’t see your reply yet .. good to know
How could weather sealing possibly not be important to you? On a camera this expensive, I think that the weather sealing is worth the extra on it's own. But when you factor in the ability to crop much more, it's a no-brainer if you've got the cash.
Love my Q for street photos. Unobtrusive, great feel, good low light, battery. Don’t need more pixels. I put gaffer tape over speaker and mic holes to keep out dust and moisture. Also over logo if I think it might be an issue.A7r3 for anything other than street.
Yes
what sucks with the Q2 is that it has THE SAME processor as the Q! otherwise, I wish I had one :D
Yup no one really mentions it. I have the Q-P but also have a SL2 with the Maestro III processor. The newer processor gives a bit more future proof power with the firmware updates. Keeping both for life no doubt. Lol.
"Girth" "teeth are sharp" "grippy" "small and tangible" No-context gold. LOL
i like to take pictures in bad weather, love dramatic shots, so for me, ye the Q2. ITS insane that for the price on the Q, you dont Get the WS. Crazy😂
Difference is like an SLR vs a medium format camera in terms of megapixels
the right choice for me was a fujilflm, cus a leica is still a dream for me lol
I want to purchase a Leica Q. I can't find one. Can you tell me where I can buy one.
I’ll sell to you if interested via Mercari
So insane to see huge creators inspired by my original Leica Q video 😭👌🏽 #daymade
thanks for doing such great work. i totally agree with you on Q vs Q2. i tried both and stayed with the Q.
I’ve resigned to the fact that I am so impossibly horrible at composition that having under 40 MP isn’t an option for me. I need all the cropping capability I can get because of my potato brain
Maybe you must learn photography the hard way? Get a M240 and a Summicron or Summarit 50 and start shooting. That's the best way to understand basic photography.
design wise the best looking cameras out there
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Both focusing systems are the same?
Essentially the same.
Q2 battery!
Thanks for the video ! I have 2 questions:
1. I've never owned a Leica, but the Q2 is very appealing. I do photography as a hobby, mainly with family and when traveling, so recently I've been thinking that a fixed lens camera might be fine for me. The Leica Q2 is VERY expensive, but typically Leicas retain value, as they are considered classic cameras that people can use for a lifetime. But my question is about digital Leicas: will these really be cameras to use for a lifetime, when technology changes so quickly. For example, if I buy a used film Leica now, I can likely sell it in 5 years and it won't have gone down much in value. But in 5 years, the Leica Q's EVF, sensor, AF, etc may seem very out of date. So, what are your thoughts on Leica digital cameras retaining value for many years (or decades)?
2. What's the story with the ads in the form of promoting a product? I wasn't surprised to hear you do a little 'commercial' for Squarespace, but it used about 1.5 minutes of your 10 minute video ! Do they give you money where the amount is based on how long you talk about their product? Do they give you a script you have to read? I think I am a bit cranky right now, so I apologize for this little rant, but I got annoyed at how long you were talking about Squarespace, maybe in part because I have heard SO MANY of these Squarespace plugs on other sights (like the Northrups videos)! Is it necessary for the product commercial to be so long?
Sorry for jumped in, want to answer the number 1.
My experience with Leicas is never buy the new one, always buy the used, i'm not saying that it's bad, but usually when you buy new, and one day you want to sell it, usually the price will have to go down at least 20-30% (depends on the usage). And with digital one, we can take a look at M9 till today with the change of sensors the price still almost the same with M (240, 262. 246). M240 series is being rebadge as M-E 240 with the same sensors. I think Leica's approach is to keep offer the 'pure' photography experience, where user can only use camera only taking pictures with usual settings (Aperture, Single point focusing, and high quality lens), i think they'll use this concept for as long as people still love using camera like we use 60 years ago. And their digital might be the problem if the parts broken is the sensors, unlike their film cameras, where you can service it everywhere. They don't offer M9 sensors anymore maybe 3 years ago. So i think at least every Digital leicas released will hold for 10-15 years (for parts and official services), but it's still good, considering other camera brands only have 3-5 years for every camera, with every year, they released new technology, that makes you have G.A.S. So yeah different kind of investment if you're into Digital leicas unlike their film bodies or their manual lenses.
For Leica, less is more, and more is most.
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Leica Q is better than Q-P, check the specs folks.
How to answer this question before watching 10 minutes and 48 seconds of video: buy whatever one you can afford and then go outside. Fluffffff.