Leica Q vs Q2 (Review)! Pros + Cons and TONS of sample Images
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In this video I compare the Leica Q vs the Leica Q2 to find out which is a better buy in 2022. I look at the pros and cons of both cameras, what I like in real world use, and which camera I think is a better value. I also look at who these cameras are best for, and who should buy the Leica Q/Q2. Lastly, I show lots of Leica Q sample photos, Leica Q2 sample photos and video. I hope this video helps the buying decision of which camera you should buy and who these cameras are best for. Cheers
Proper side by side comparison with the cameras taking the same photo, and then comparing the result. This is how it's supposed to be done. Other youtubers, take notice. Bravo Dominic!
In-depth review. Saving my time for searching information. Great review
Glad to help!
Great comparison! I’m a Leica fanboy, and shoot M10-D, SL2, and Q2M, but you’ve almost got me convinced to add an original Q to the family! I love how the Q cameras are really becoming a gateway for more photographers to join the Leica community. Keep up the excellent work!
you are amazing ....nobody has ever explained anything as well as you have.......kudos to you
That’s very kind. Thank you
Hi Dom,
I like how the way you put your content in this. Made my decision more clear.
Joe, I appreciate those words. Best compliment I could get. Cheers
top man, exactly my feelings as I am looking to decide which way to go!
Hey man, great video, it really helped to put some thoughts into perspective regarding these two cameras, specially now with the Q3 on the market. Will look for second hand Q in the market and if I end up using it as it should, might jump later on for the Q3. Thanks a lot! cheers. !
I have a Q-P and Q2, love them. When I was buying the Q2, I indeed plan to sell the Q-P. But end up having both, just love them and don't want to give them up. lol
Hi Dominic, nice review of Q and Q2. Good work.
I have the Q, bought on 2022, and I have no words. Quality, and the crop you can do to the image is awesome. Zoom and zoom without lose quality. And same lens as q2.
Glad you love it. It's a fantastic little camera.
Thanks for a great video! I do think you are underselling the crop modes though. Shooting on actual different lenses in that example you showed, the photographer moved the camera physically to get the same framing of each shot. If we do the same thing using the crop modes, moving farther away to frame the subject within the crop marks in the camera, we will get the same compression effect. Of course sacrificing a bit of sharpness due to not utilizing the entire sensor.
Probably so, I did like it in camera a lot... but when I was editing in post I always ended up back at the raw file and cropping myself. But for some it will definitely be useful.
Thank you for the time taken to do this side by side review. Ill prob never be able to justify either but Im surprised to say I prefer the colours out of the Q as well as the clearly superior low light images. Pity its not weather sealed and obviously you have less crop wiggle room...I might just be tempted with 2nd hand Q when they are about 7 yrs old 😲
It’s weird that I really love the Q too. I wonder if I’m biased because it was my first Leica, or because it’s so much cheaper. Either way they’ll keep coming down in price so keep your eyes peeled. Thanks for watching!
You are correct about the compression between 50 and 28 BUT if you step back to re frame the head of the person you get the same compression as a 50mm because you have now changed the distance from the camera and subject.
This is true 👍🏽
Thank you so much for this video! I’ve been torn between the two for my first Leica! I think I’m going with the Q as my everyday carry!
I'm happy it was helpful and that's a good choice! Unless you absolutely need the extras of the Q2 (most don't), the Q is a HELL of a camera still. One piece of advice.... there are some rumors out there that a Q3 is dropping soon. If that happens, prices of both of these cameras will drop lower. Cheers
@@DominicPhillip any idea when they expect to drop the Q3? If so I’ll probably wait and get the Q2 just so I can have the extra weather sealing more than anything.
$2500 for a Q vs there is a Q2 with accessories for $4500. Would you still pick the Q?
@@karandarji5698 sorry, no solid info. I’ve heard some talk of later this year, but again just speculation.
@@karandarji5698 that’s tough because the Q2 has been holding it’s value. You could shoot it for 2 or 3 years and maybe lose a couple hundred bucks. Makes it a good deal at $4500
The weather sealing on the Q2 for me is massive, I love shooting in bad weather, although a cheaper Q and an umbrella look good too.
It’s really worth it if you ever destroy a Q. My buddy did it in the rain and regrets it so much.
@@DominicPhillip already destroyed a Q2 mate so will be a tad more cagey with the Q haha
Confirming what others have said here. He gets the cropping argument completely wrong. The difference between, say, a 28mm and 75mm shot has to do with the change in perspective caused by changing the camera-to-subject distance to keep the subject the same size in the frame. If you don’t move and just change from a 28mm lens to a 75mm one, the result is the same as cropping.
exactly. His argument is completely flawed, but I don't blame him, it's been repeated by every single bro youtuber.
???
Just changing lens doesn't change the data count. Cropping from 28 to 75 does.
I must have missed your point.
@@terryallen9546I’m referring to what he says around @6:00. The lens doesn’t change perspective, it’s the camera-to-subject distance. So, if you crop to 75mm and move back to where you would be with a 75mm lens, the perspective will be the same as with a true 75mm lens. Hope that clarifies.
Not so sure it’s flawed and the simple example I have is this, shoot on a Sony with the 24f1.4 gm, I’d use crop mode to get the 35mm or what I thought was the 35, I then bought the 35mm and the difference of separation and compression makes a huge difference. The shape at a true 75mm is completely different to it cropped in on a 28. Your just cropping in in camera.
@@darmaher4481 No you are getting this wrong or mixing it with something else. A 35mm cropped to 85mm is the exact same thing as a real 85mm (the difference being the resolution) it could be that the lens you bought just has better separation and less distortion maybe that's why you think that.
I personally have always used that crop mode with a 35mm in video because I didn't lose any resolution on the camera I was using. It was exactly like a 50mm (approximately) so I could always switch between the modes depending if I needed a zoom. But it's fine it is indeed easy to mix up but if you do some research about the technical things you'll quickly discover the truth, it's very easy to misunderstand
I like your summary!!
Thank you!
great review thank you so much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Agreed. I shoot a Q and have been trying to justify ‘upgrading’ to the Q2… but I’m still super happy with the Q so haven’t done so yet. Maybe if I can find a used one well below market?!?…
Just wait till the q3 drops. The market will flood
Agree with you. Am very happy with my Q in second hand as far as I am concerned ;-) Thanks for your videos. Best regards,
Great review as usual! I was on the market for a Q, Q-P or a Q2 for months, and ended up buying both Q and Q-P almost the same time. I love the Q-P so much, I returned the beautiful Q back to B&H. Why kept Q-P in place of regular Q? The Q-P is an inconspicuous and sleek-styled update to the original Q. The removal of the front red dot in favor of a classic Leica script engraving on the top plate is the most important thing to me, and it also sports a flat matte black paint finish for an even darker appearance (it's hard to tell, you only can feel it when you have it in your hands). Additionally, the Q-P has a redesigned shutter release and On/Off switch that offers improved tactility, similar to that of M and CL-series cameras. I believe the feeling of the new power switch on the Q-P is close to that of Q2.
I think I would love a Q2 for its better EVF. After using the outstanding EFV on my Lumix S1R, I was spoiled, cannot happy with the EVF on the Q-P. I think I eventually will pick up a used Q2 to replace my Q-P, they are currently almost the same price in the used market.
I actually love the Q-P as well, I think it's a fantastic looking camera! I think the rarity of them has made the 2nd hand market a bit overinflated (especially compared to the Q's), but I've always wanted to pick one up. They're a bit hard to find which tells me the value may increase as time goes on, but I think the Q2 will really come down in price once the Q3 hits the market soon. Thanks for watching!
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Great comparison.
It is rather interesting to compare the selling price of a new Q2 with a new Leica 28mm Summilux interchangeable lens alone. You can add the price of a matching Leica body to the lens to make it a fair comparison.
For a different brand, maybe the Sony A7III plus a Sigma 24mm f2.8 would be a perfect match [I own a Q2 and the Sony combination]. The Sony is the better camera technically but the Q2 is the most pleasing to use, marginally.
My first DSLR was the Nikon D50, it only had 6mp, but they were so sharp. I could easily print out at 11" x 13" prints
Good review, Where I am Just found out that 2nd hands Q and Q2, depending on the unit conditions Q is selling about 20-30% cheaper. I thought the Q would be much cheaper, I suppose the red dot still holds its value, possibly buy one to try ha ha.
I think the best value to buy now is the 2nd hand Sony A7RII and put on a Sony 28mm lens and start shooting, if I like it then proceed to the next stage. BTW I own both.
Totally agree... but I also look at the other side of things. If you think about it, I bought a Q for 2800 ish, had it for over a year, and can sell it for the exact same price or possibly a couple hundred more. The Leica value is not going anywhere if you can find a clean one.
I have an original Q and I'm waiting for that Q3 to drop with the M11 sensor and flip up screen which will be a game changer for low light shooting/dynamic range while also having the option to shoot 60MP.
I was thinking the same but talked with leica today and said they’re looking at quarter 4 of 2023 for the Q3 😭
@@emmieslife sheesh that's a long wait.
Flip screens on Leicas, ouch. Will never happen.
Prospective is not really affected by the lens focal length, but the distance between camera and model.
A cropped 50mm and full frame 50mm should have the same prospective if shoot with same distance. The difference is DOF.
I heard that the q2 in low light is not as good as the q
Would you agree?
i think the explanation on distortion in crop mode, and that it's the same in all crops... that part is wrong.
distortion is also affected by the distance of the camera from the subject. so if you fill the entire 28mm frame with a subject, then move away so the same subject now fills the 75mm frame, the distortion is very different. yes, you cannot get the benefits of shallow depth of field of a long lens, but the distortion is similar to a long lens in this example. (i just tried it).
I like the color profile of the original q a lot better, although it is a minute difference. is that just me? great photos btw. also, how was ur experience of cropping in on the q? is the 24mp enough for a crop in for a 35mm look?
Hey Zion… honestly the color profiles are very very similar. I prefer the q in low light slightly, but as far as colors I didn’t notice much. But cropping on the q is bad. It’s just not enough data to go in much. 35mm can work, but you may see some loss of details which may be annoying. Def not past 35 though
@@DominicPhillip ah that is the only fact that is bothering me from getting this camera...im planning it to use for just personal use (family photos, hobby, vacation), so hopefully it is not that big of an issue
I am with you with colors. I don't think it is subtle . I prefer ebabsolutely everything about my q2 over my q except the colors . everything is a bit more "brown" , duller with the Q2 . still can't find a way to make it look like my Q in Lightroom sadly ...
edit.. pushing the Tint Shadows slider in the Calibration panel towards magenta just a little bit, seems to revive the colours and come closer to the colours of the Q1. let me know what you think
@@borisharold Idk if it's because you guys are telling me this and now I'm looking for it, but I'm definitely seeing what you're saying when looking back at my raw files now. I wonder if it's a universal feeling that the Q colors are better!? Either way I love the colors of both over all my Sony's and it's not close lol
The colour comparisons are like the difference between Kodachrome and Ektachrome film imho (Q/Q2)
I like the 35mm crop on my Q with its M style framelines btw✌️
Wise words
2 years on, and with the release of the Q3, would you still stand by the Q? The Q on the secondhand market is still selling for over £2000. The Q2 can now be gotten for less than £3000. Would you say that the Q2 can now justify an extra £1000 over the Q? Great comparison video by the way.
Hi. I was able to rent a Q2 for the weekend. On the Leica forum I read a topic about autofocus. A few people mentioned that Q1 has better autofocus than Q2, and that for more mpx it is worse. Do you confirm?
I can't confirm honestly. I didn't notice a huge difference in daylight, I actually noticed the Q2 was faster to focus in low light though.
@@DominicPhillip thanks
Hi DominicPhillip, I would like to blow your mind ;) , the “compression effect” at the crop mode 75mm of the q2 and the compression of an actual 75mm lens on a full frame is the same. The same is true for all the other crop modes. Take a minute and try it at home , put your q2 on a table , and another camera with a lens equivalent of the crop mode you will use on the leica . Voila same image ;) (edit: in the example you mention with the different images at different mm , the photographer was changing its distance from the subject. At lets say , 10 meters, with a q2 cropped and another camera with a 50mm lens on it , the image will be the same in terms of compression
No
@@michaelj7069 At
I actually like the fact that as a left-handed photographer, the buttons on the Leica Q are on the left a massive plus point nearly all cameras and phones are right-handed centric.
great, can you do more with the q2 please
I'll work on it. thanks for watching
The consistently looks better than the q2 phtos to me but i just like my pics a bit warmer. Imma get a q one day
Glad I can keep my Q! ;)
haha but are you shooting it?
@@DominicPhillip sure
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Is it me or I almost always prefer the photos of the original Q? Color wise, I’m not pixel peeping
Sometimes I do! I love the colors coming out of the Q. I also love the colors out of the Q2 though, they're both pretty good imo.
Yes, you do get exactly the look of a 50mm or 75mm, etc, when cropping in. You really miss the whole point. In your example, with portait and tons of focal lengths, the distance from the camera was changed with every focal length to keep the same composition! That is the whole reason for the distortion change, not the focal length. If you keep the distance the distortion will be exactly the same at every focal length, but the composition will change.
23mm on a crop sensor looks exactly the same as 35mm on FF in terms of distortion.
The DOF is reduced with the crop and that’s just a simple multiplication. If you’ve 2x crop you’ll have 2xDOF.
Also want to point out that if you shoot a portrait at 28mm F1.7 and you crop into 50mm, it's essentially the look of 50mm F2.8. You can test this by shooting the subject with a 50mm lens at F2.8 then shoot the Q from the same distance at F1.7. Identical images.
This is very true, but using the 50 mm frame lines to compose a photo means that one would move further away from the subject to make the subject fit the frame lines (assuming one wanted to fill the frames with, say, a face in both instances). That would give a different perspective. In fact, the perspective would be the same as using a 50mm lens from the same distance, though the depth of field would be that of a 28 mm lens (though the increased subject distance would have an effect). Focal length, subject distance and aperture dictate depth of field, but only subject distance determines perspective.
No. This won’t correct for foreshortening.
tottaly agree!
I’m waiting for the Q3 and hope they give us…
- M11 image sensor
- internal storage for redundancy
- better autofocus
- SL2 EVF
- better video capability
- I’d prefer a 35mm Summilux lens that can crop into 50mm and 75mm
That to me would be the perfect camera.
I like your list! I’d just do dual card slots instead of internal. You’d need a ton of internal storage with that sensor. I hope we see it 🙏🏽
I would love an x100v-style tilting screen.
@@HansdeHeer just buy the x100v and admit to yourself you wouldn't be able to tell the difference
If the Q2 was 35mm instead of 28mm, I'd buy one.
I get it. 35mm is my favorite. X100V maybe?
@@DominicPhillip But I want the full frameyness with regards to depth of field. I've also owned the original X100 and the T.
SONY discontinued the very camera I wanted a while back!
And you forgot to say neither camera, or in fact any Leica, have a tiltable screen, which is one of the reasons I sold my SL and kept my Fuji X-E4...
That's a great point. And I don't know that we're going to see that anytime soon either
I think Leica will not do that in the future, cause they want to avoid any faulty on any moving mechanism, as i find that's a common problem with most cameras with tilt screen
@@ElmarJournal I've never had an issue with any of my Fuji tilt screens and I've had them since they first came out...
@@MikeKleinsteuber lucky you, i haven't also, but always see the issue everytime im scrolling on amy camera forums
Have the Q with almost zero interest in q2. Q3….we will see.
I love my Q but I actually do prefer the build quality of the Q2. If the Q2 comes down enough in price I'd love that as my EDC
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and you know madly, that it's not the camera that takes pictures it's the photographers, if you are a mediocre photographer, you will take mediocre pictures even with a Leica Q, or QP, or Q2
100% facts
$2500 and $5000 for bad video and just body only. whoah! That sucks! Great for photographers though, the pictures look stunning.
They are no joke on the bank account! But they are fixed lens so it’s not just body, and for photographers the images are insane…. Still don’t know if they’re really worth the money though. Ha
Look at it as a great Summilux lens with a free body included. ;)
@@HansdeHeer lol
I would love one of these, just need to sell all my belongings a kidney.
You do have two kidneys right? I say go for it lol
If I sold a kidney, could I then afford a Q2, M10 monochrome, M4 35mm and an Ashai Pentax 67II. Then I’d never need another camera… (or maybe a Sony A7C too)
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Lol, you need to explain to Leica users for 5 minutes what digital zoom is? Why does it even have it?
Well it is fun. Maybe a marketing gimmick?
Ok, this is all nonsense. If you are going to make huge prints then yes, maybe 40 plus megapixels. But remember Most screens show a max of 2 megapixels and a 4 k screen will show no more than 4 megapixels! This all becomes very silly unless you are a dedicated industrial photographer or doing massive landsape prints