Fujifilm X100 VI VS Leica Q2 - Which One Should You Get?
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I love you comparative videos. Your points are well thought out and very informative. Thank you for another very good video.
Informative video 👍🏻
Just one question. Why didn't you take some of the same images with each camera to help better demonstrate the Leica look?
I really like your videos. I think they are comprehensive and unbiased. When I had a Fuji I used the hybrid view finder. If set up properly you also have a depth of field indicator as a blue bar on the bottom of the view finder. That’s a great thing.
The fact that these cameras are even in the same conversation says A LOT about the Fuji.
Since I need interchangeable lenses, I would not buy either.
I shoot Leica M10 and Fuji X-Pro2.
Very thorough and complete comparison. I presently have an X100V but I hope to acquire a Q2 or 3 soon and pass on the unobtainable X100VI. Cheers!
Great video. Still waiting for medium format version of x100 series from Fujifilm 😅 meanwhile using the x100vi.
I do have both too. I’m still learning the Q2 to appreciate. I can’t get used to how the images look through the viewfinder and on the lcd screen. I’m struggling with it. The IQ of the Q2 is superior compared to the Fuji 6. X100VI is my first Fujifilm camera and I’m flabbergasted with the millions of menus and dito options. It’s quite a learning curve. But, it’s a nice camera. My thoughts now, after a week of X100VI, is to keep the Fuji for SOOC jpegs. Programming the C1-C7 custom options gives a lot of fun. And, more and more importantly (to me anyway), less or no editing. Thank You sweet Lord.
Tobis, great video! Thanks for the detailed info. Your video is really long and desperately needs chapters and to be cut down a bit. But thanks for the hard work you put into making this!
I think your video was worthwhile making, thanks. I still own the X100V and I have also used the Q2 (mainly the monochrome version). I enjoyed using the Q2 but as I also have a Sony A74 and multiple lenses I could not justify the cost of a Q2 for a "personal camera". Both cameras made me want to pick them up and take photos and have fun. For my own personal photos I am not pixel peeping and the fuji wins out due to the sooc jpegs and that I can put the camera in my coat pocket, unless you have huge pockets the Leica will not fit.
For all the X100VI distractors, these cameras are often compared as almost equals of a Leica costing 2x secondhand or over 3x the price new. That should tell you something. However if your pockets are deep enough then go for the Leica Q2/3 and enjoy it.
I have the fujifilm x100vi and for me it is a little bit shocking to release a new camera with the same lens with this annoying loud Af noise.
I tested both cameras before i bought the fujifilm and both are super in their own way.
Thanks for the nice video.
I have a Leica Q2 and Sony RX1RII in my EDC kit. I love both 26mm (Real Leica Q2 DOF) and the 33mm (Real RX1RII DOF) I love the DNG files from Leica Q2 and the wider Summilux lens, but the Sonnar f2 lens on the Sony Rx1RII is simply amazing too and much better than any Fuji APS-C camera lens combo incl. X100V (which I bought and sold twice).
For video work, I use A7CII as a hybrid camera.There is again no any Fuji or Leica camera that can combat with A7CII with a linear focused native Sony lens.
RX1RII is cheaper and lighter than Q2 (504 vs 734 g) and therefore always with me.
Watching all these X100VI videos while waiting for mine to arrive keep me going…. lol
I think one advantage the X100s have over the Leica Qs and the Sony RX1s is the slim form factor. The Leica Qs are definitely the largest so not much to say there, but while the RX1s are smaller, the thinner profile of the X100s actually make them easier to slip into coat pockets and "non-camera" bags. It's a small thing but with how oddly feeling my RX1 can be in some of my bags I think it might be easier to carry an X100 while its overall size is larger.
Nothing beats the Ricoh GR when it comes to portability though :P
Usually i'm a fuji guy and i still think the VI or even the V are great cameras. I had them like 3-4 times but always ended up selling them because i don't like the ergomincs, idk how to explain it but after spending some time with a Leica Q, i know i'm switching to the Leica Q2. I just LOVE the ergonomics and the feeling of the Q2 and for me that is an very important thing.
Great video, now could you perhaps do a side by side photo comparison with Q2 vs VI to see if there actually is a Leica-3D-look or not?
Your vid helps a lot my q3 has some special sauce. Get the q3
Great vid thanks. Just one small thing and that is why do call the Fuji V a "vee" and the Fuji VI a "six". Surely the V is a "five" is it not?
Good and interesting video of comparing an second hand q2 with the Fuji x100vi new as even if the 2 cameras are not at the same price in this configuration (Leica is still twice the price as are their accessories) a future buyer can wonder which is the best for him. You address points that are not too much discussed by others but are far important : the lens. True that in terms of bokeh the Leica due to its f1.7 instead of f3.0 is the winner here, the way of using it in manual mode and the fact that a 28-35-50:is for me far more versatile than a 35-50-75 ff equivalent for a point and shoot camera. It s just a pitty you don’t t share the same images / subject with the 2 cameras and the apple basket would have been a good comparison. Then you have what I call the secondary functions : videos, Fuji film simulation, quantity of buttons to quickly customise your body. I say secondaries because I don’t t think you buy these cameras for video, film simulation is funny but no more and buttons… no comments :). If you want buttons buy a Sony … and don t forget how you assign them :))). Then the third functions : optical adapters for Fuji are just useless so forget them. Finally the look … it’s quite personnal and the fact that the Fuji is bicolor probably attires more than the uniform black and for me I prefer to be discrete :). So for me in conclusion if you have the money and want the best for your pictures buy the Leica, of course it s too expensive but it’s a jewel and give you a l’or of pleasure to photograph, if you don t have the money and a 35 mm is enough for you buy the Fuji which is probably very well even if a little less good.
i think the q’s “3d” effect is from it being actually wider (26mm) from the lens correction from the distortion of the barrel
Awesome video. Stupid question but does autofocus work when shooting in flog on the Fuji? I can seem to get any autofocus in flog.
have both Q3, X100VI standard and limited edition. The image quality of both is high quality, but, I prefer the X100VI when traveling since its significantly smaller. Q3 lense is just on another level and prefer it for potraits.
Excellent video. Thank you.
I have both. My take:
1) if you can afford the Q2 buy it over the Fuji.
Or
2) If you can afford both, get both.
Otherwise ….
3) get the x100vi
It’s like comparing a Ferrari to a Shelby GT500. Both are awesome but they are unique and in totally different categories.
Great comparison. Wish the Fuji updated their lens to higher quality to better make use of the 40MP
Comparison with q3 would have been interesting both cameras released this year.
I love the Q2. It gives me an approximation of the unaffordable M system. But in a couple of years, I might go with the Q3. Love the Q2. Intrigued by the X110VI, but I think I would be disappointed coming from the Q2.
Is known that you need a big screen (27” at least) or 13X8” impression to see the effect of microcontrast (less than this our eyes cannot see it); you like more the “leica style” because that is you are expecting that, it is the called Pigmaleon effect.
Both cameras take beautiful photos - but there is definitely something extra special about the Leica images.
for that much money, leica photos better be that much special 😂😂😂
@@arwennstory9737quality control in 21st century is expensive. It’s not just about the technology, it’s quality of materials, although there was a time when Leica would partner with minolta and also make some of their lenses in Canada. Unfortunately Canada is now more expensive than Germany, and Leica has abandoned their cheaper products after they joined the l-mount alliance
The photographer take beautiful photos not the camera
@@LilaLeicabar - it's the same photographer, so we can compare the difference in the cameras.
If you get a Q3 you also get a free X100VI at the 35mm crop setting on the Leica.
You compared Fuji's sooc vs Q2's sooc or edited? Looks like the Q2 images were edited
I own the x100v and the Q3. So own both now. The thing with Leica is that the lenses retain full image quality even with wide open aperture. That gives the beautiful dof in combination with the dynamic range where pure blacks can be had together with pure white or even blown out parts. And of course the mind blowing sharpness. In comparison the Fuji files wil always be flat when holding next to each other. Even Sony is left behind in this. I'll probably sell my Fuji as I didn't use it since I have the Q3.
I have the Q2 and the x100vi and I can say that the picture quality and sharpness is way better on the Q2. The Raws and JPEGS are better on the Q2. There is a soft sharpness on the x100vi.
I use different gears and recently bought the q3, my Sony A7 iv is superior in many ways but the look you get with the 28mm Lens is impressive, really. Still love also to use my wife xe4 which is my "equivalent" x100v. For the jpegs you're absolutly right, we love to use the film simulation but at the end i much prefer editing my raws specially with dxo films editing
Nice comparison. So different though.
Good video, but it would have been complete if you had shared the same images (subjects) made by both cameras.
Always enjoy your videos. Thank you for good information and comparing these two cameras. (Like you, I’m not a fan of editing, either!).
Light speed doesn’t get adapted between sensor sizes. F1.2 on an ASPC is more light than F1.4 on a FF. Only the depth of field is adapted.
I had a X100V, a m9 and a m6, I can say there is a Leica look.
I’m still uncertain if I will take a look on the new X100VI. I’m a bit disappointed it’s the same camera than before. But I’ve a got a nice play with Fuji for a while.
Nice one 👍
Hallo Tobi, ich schreibe mal in deutsch…. herzlichen Dank für dein Video. Ich habe viele Jahre mit Fuji fotografiert, angefangen mit der X100 und dann alle Varianten der X-Pro Serie, die ich auch heute noch habe. Vor drei Jahren kaufte ich dann eine gebrauchte Leica Q2 und war schlichtweg begeistert… Meine Reise endete aber damit nicht. Ich habe dann im Mai 2023 eine Leica M10 gekauft und diese dann auch noch im September 2023 um eine M11 ergänzt. Heute fotografiere ich nur noch mit der M und den Leica Gläsern (Elmarit 28, Summilux 35 und 50). Es ist herausfordernd, aber die Bildergebnisse sind einzigartig schön. Ich glaube für mich ist diese der Art der Fotografie genau das was ich suchte . Die Leica Q2 oder die X100vi sind ganz sicher tolle Kameras und ich würde beide empfehlen. Ich bin sicher auch du wirst eines Tages eine M wollen und haben und deine Reise wird vielleicht auch dann ein Ende finden. Ich könnte noch viele Dinge nennen, die sich für mich geändert hat, aber damit will ich dich nicht langweilen….
Herzlichen Dank nochmals für deine tollen und interessanten Videos. LG aus Hamburg, Stefan
Ich stehe vor einer ähnlichen Entscheidung und kann deinen Kauf der M Serie nachvollziehen. Sehr klein für Vollformat, Wechselobjektive und hoher ich sag mal Spaßfaktor. Nur bin ich beim Preis einer M11 leider raus. Verstehe auch die Preispolitik nicht. Im Vergleich mit den anderen 60mp Kameras Q3 und SL3 kann die M11 weniger, kostet aber 2000€ mehr. Das verstehe einer, ich kann es nicht. Deshalb wird gewartet, bis sich etwas ergibt .
@@Patrick22378 Das ist alles richtig und eine Menge Kohle....., aber bei Leica und Preisen muss man leider schmerzfrei werden und hoffentlich glücklich. Ich bin Letzteres.. Es war eine emotionale Entscheidung und ich habe lange gezögert, aber nie bereut.
Danke für dein Kommentar, Stefan! Viele sagen, dass die X Pro der Einstieg zur Leica ist und viele sind diesen Weg gegangen. Ich habe zeitlich auch mit einer M240 geliebäugelt, bleibe aber zunächst bei Fujifilm, da mir brauchbare jpegs sehr wichtig sind. Ich möchte nicht noch lange am PC hängen und Raw Dateien entwickeln :) irgendwann wird es vielleicht doch eine M10 oder so, wer weiß. Freut mich, dass du glücklich geworden bist! Ist schon ein schönes Setup, was du dir gekauft hast.
Leica q2 and a Ricoh Gr 3x is all I need
To me you don't need any Leica except the M series with vintage lenses. Otherwise, you'll find Leica Q is as boring as Fuji X100V. Because, the images on these two cameras are so modern-looking which makes it like it's taking by any other brands cameras with pretty the same color rendering (+postprocessing).
can you compare the x100vi with the Leica Q3? :) i know, a lot to ask :)
Not sure to understand the interest as Q3 is just a more defined Q2… but Tobias likes to try new gear so why not :).
What Lens hood are you using for the x100vi?
looks like haoge
thank u
Very informative! Having an X100V I’m now looking at getting the Q2 since I’ve never had a Leica before. The X100VI looks incredible but I’ll skip it and maybe see what the X100VII offers in a few years.
I replaced my X100F with a Q. Nothing suggests that I wouldn’t be happy with making the same decision vs the VI and the Q2. Or the Q.
I own a Fujifilm X100S since 2014. I love it. However, last year, I phoned Fujifilm repair center in New-Jersey to get my X100S cleaned, and to replace the display which was still working but with a small scratch. They returned the X100S without contacting me or doing anything to it. Message was: no spares! so why did they tell me to send it in the first place?
Conclusion, your Leica will be supported for the rest of your life. Fujifilm, not so much!
Hi Tobis Thanks for the video, however I have trouble understanding why you took the trouble to make such a long video comparing two cameras, deciding that one is preferable primarily based on the "look" of the photos, and yet made no effort to show side by side examples so that viewers can actually see what you're talking about.
This allows viewers to infer that the 'special' look may be illusory, or a kind of "emperor's new clothes" effect to help Leica buyers justify their significant $$ outlay.
Surely any review of two cameras which lacks side-by-side comparative photos is fundamentally flawed?
Any comments on this would be much appreciated.
Isn't the 3d pop from the fact that the Leica is a full frame? 🤓 I have a A7Iii and used a X100v, the fuji photos were lacking that 3d full frame pop
Why don’t you compare it with Q3 ??
Leica if you can afford it. Fuji xt30ii paired with a 18mm Voigtlander does the job
Whichever you can afford... ?!
The V is 5 ;)
I’m actually finding autofocus on my X100VI in any mode to be quite horrible. Whilst the green boxes that you see may indicate that the camera has acquired focus and locked on to the subject, closer inspection of the images after the fact show otherwise. I’m left with many of my images mostly front focused, resulting in soft and blurry images which is an absolute deal breaker for me.
I’m really hoping that this is something that is happening to everyone else too because that would at least tell me that it isn’t a QC issue with my camera and will be something that FUJIFILM can fix in a firmware update.
Additionally, I don’t think this lens is actually resolving the full 40MP of this sensor. I’m finding that even with those photos where focus is good, the resolution does not seem to be 40MP. I think the lens is this camera’s biggest bottleneck to truly getting the best of this sensor.
I really want to love this camera, but so far, this issue is a real deal breaker for me.
I’ve previously owned a Q2 and sold it a year ago, and I’m now thinking of going back to it.
Nope just you mine has never done that .
Thanks for this. I had the X100V and thought the same thing... autofocus was hot garbage! Thanks for confirming it's still an issue with the X100VI. Leica Q3 for me...
Hmm… having other new fuji cameras… I recognise the autofocus issues somewhat… are you perhaps in underexposed conditions when the AF fails you? This is the usual case where i get wrongly indicated focus lock, and then the image is not focused
Are you using Capture One to process the files?
@@bngr_bngr me? Can you elaborate? What impact would that have? If anything- C1 processes the files better than Adobe… Yes, I use C1
some technical info here: there is no objectively quantifiable “leica look”, leica lenses are different in focal lengths, max aperture, blade style, number of elements, coating- body wise they’ve used different sensors from different sources throughout time, and before that of course anyone’s choice of film. so whatever “leica look” is, isn’t talking about bokeh, distortion, color- it can’t possibly because it’s always different. however, what leica lenses are known for is reliable sharpness, reliable clarity, depth separation color separation- that’s why you always take the Q, cuz it’s a dependable lens coupled with a full frame sensor in a body that’s fun for you to use. to the x100’s credit, i’ve got a recipe on mine that has the “leica look” color and clarity- it comes close but not as close as my olympus with the same recipe + an actual Leica 28mm attached. the x100’s focus ring is a mystery to me why they didn’t include a similar analog-experience ring after 6 generations of this camera. an analogish by-wire focus ring is not uncommon, some of fuji’s interchangeable lenses have such a feature and even olympus has a few. i’m not sure why x100 didn’t include that functionality
Could you please write down the recipe of the Leica Look for me? Just that one? It would be the very first recipe to put into my Fujifilm X100 VI
@@Viewtolove yeah sure- but as a note, this is based specifically off the leica Q 116's vivid profile.
provia standard / grain off / color chrome weak / chrome fx off / smooth skin off / white balance auto -R2 +B2 / dynamic range DR400 @800 ISO / highlight -2 / shadows 0 / color +3 / sharpness +1 / noise reduction -4 / clarity +2
i personally liked the leica Q's vivid mode so i bumped up the color saturation- but if you prefer the standard saturation just knock the color down a bit to your liking. the key to the look is the sharpness and clarity to compensate for the fuji glass's shortcoming compared to the leica Q's glass. in the end, the results in my findings were too close to tell especially in general sunny scenarios.
@@MakePictures Thank you very much!
I will try to emulate it and program it in.
I wonder what the effect will look like!
@@Viewtolove when you have your subject or scene, play around with the exposure- sometimes the exposure alone will have drastically different results using these presets. i usually shoot the same thing while turning the shutter speed dial to get a few shots with different looks (you can use exposure bracket too but it won't let you use the digital teleconverter same time)
Fujifilm all the way
Leica should make F2 or F2.8 to make that lens smaller..
Hum the interest of the Q line is the lens which is just perfect (manual, macro..)… you can even say that it’s a lens with an optional body :). If you know the Leica lenses prices (which are insane everybody admits it), This body is given with the Q (2k€) , not so expensive for the Q2 2nd hand and a little expensive for the Q3 new. If you loose the fast aperture you 50% of it… and if you listen carefully to this video it s the lense and its aperture which blow away the Fuji… so bad idea imo.
@@philmtx3fr That is not the point. Also an F2.0 Leica lens will be excellent. But it would make the lens significantly smaller and this would attract more buyers. The lens size is the factor that holds me back to buy a Q3.
@@dirks.3797 I may understand your point. On my side a big camera doesn’t annoy me but U can understand some smartphone users can find it too big. But they should try :). I also think that the Q2 (second market) is a better bargain than the Q3.
Q3
Fuji… and a trip to Europe = Q2🤷♂️🤷♂️
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Leica look is clipped highlights! 😂
That’s a lot of time spent talking about video related two cameras that are known for photography and not amazing at video. Something like 14 minutes on video and 3 on photo. A bit weird for me!
I have both, you can't compare anything to Leica. not only the image quality but also the build quality. it feels like a weapon.
I can’t afford the leica wish i could.. but I’m not going breaking the bank. I can afford the fujifilm 100vi
Neither, get a system Camera.
Whenever I hear that leica has a "3d look", i have to trust the reviewer a little less 🤷🏽♂️. It's not that i don't believe they actually see that look. Is just that i know that the placebo effect is real.
Annoying spot above his head from the lamp.
If the x100vi got a 18mm… the question would not exist. Fuji made a stupid error not taking benefit of the 40mpix sensor to do so. This x100vi - 18mm would have been a Q2 killer… so let’s wait for the x100vii ;)
You can always get the WCL to get that 18mm for the X100 VI... if you can find one that is. ;)
Stupid comment, use the WCL
Not at all. One of the things that I love the most about the X100 series cameras is the focal length of 23mm (35mm FF equivalent). If you really want the wider look, you can get the wide adapter, but since this is meant to be an all around camera and especially one that you can also take portraits on, 23mm is perfect, at least for me.
If Fuji was smart they would have not rushed this camera out. They should have put the newer battery in. Who cares if the camera was a few millimeters thicker. Also they should have kept the d-pad like the older versions. The joystick is a joke. Plus they should have gave consumers an option of a 28 mm and a 35 mm. The wide angle adapter is bulky and it’s a pain to have to remove parts to install a bulky lens. Glad I sold my X100V to fund my Q3.
@@skipper4114 I agree on all points my main point being the lens and the choice of 28 or 35 is probably the best ( like what Ricoh did). If you have a 2nd hand site where the Q3 is at the same price as the x100v don t hesitate to share :).
Nothing great with this video. Every time his saying anything good about the fuji, he is immediately comparing "the good thing" with another better camera. It is so obvious he is pro leica camera.
Hum comment of a guy who never tried a Leica… :) and perhaps a little jealous… :)). Pssst if you want to try one , the Leica Q 2nd hand is at the same price as the x100vi :)…
@@philmtx3fr Hahaha, wow. Hey richi rich, i had one better, the M10. But i would buy fujifilm over any leica everyday
@@mr.safari ha ha ha (bis) … if you have an m10 and you want a Fuji I don t understand anymore… except you have too much money :).
It's ridiculous to compare a Chinese-made camera against a world-renowned German quality product that maintains the same standard for generations to come.
Not really. Usability, ergonomics. Design and image quality are all up for comparison. They may not, in your opinion, be in the same league. But they ARE actually comparable in terms of use case.
The x100 sucks. Who wants a camera that everyone in the world has. Pretty soon, every Tom, Dick and Harry would be able to post film simulations and the thing that makes it special will be cringe as hell.
The Q2/Q3 image quality is astonish. I don’t have the X100VI, but I own a X-T5 and I feel a lot of difference in image quality when compared to my Q3.
However, the fujis are undeniably a joy to use.
i went from a Fuji x100V to a Q3 in sept. i really didnt want to like the Q3.. i bought it from a place that had a really good return policy, so I thought i'd give it 30 days. i miss the joystick to move the focus point on the back.. but other than than that.. the Q3 is a far superior camera.. (it better be for the price)
but if you are a day time shooter.. that wants a fun simple powerful camera.. you cant go wrong with an X100. but the Q3 blows away the X100 in terms of low light and focusing speed.. and the leica lens.. it really is something special.
@@dmille6 Totally agree.
There’s something special about the Leica images. I’m very skeptical when it comes to “Leica look” in the digital world.
However, the images that come out of the Q3 are much superior. That 60mp sensor on the Leica is outstanding and that Leica glass resolves beautifully. No matter what a try, I’m not able to get the same sharpness and colors on the X-T5. It’s still a joy to use, but not quite there compared to the Leica.
Ist ja wohl keine Kunst...ist ein Kleinbildsensor im Gegensatz zur Fuji...APSC....der Vergleich ist sowieso nicht gerechtfertigt..Jedenfalls hat die Fuji mehr flair!