Fantastic video, and this has only just barely scratched the surface of what you can do in Verve. The interface is pretty cryptic and confusing at first, but after spending some weeks learning exactly how each of those knobs affects the 'paint', I can do just about anything you can imagine in Verve. You can make those crazy psychedelic fluid abstracts, but with a more subtle adjustment of those knobs you can also create some incredibly realistic oil paint works. I pretty much exclusively work with brush 9 and 10 (9 is a bristle brush, 10 is a 'captured dab' brush). Between those two I can get any brush shape or style out of it... if you want a fan brush, you click in the brush window and drag to adjust the bias value, and it makes the brush narrower. If you dial brush 9 down to maximum bias it makes a very compelling palette knife. If you want multi-colored brush strokes, you can use the image sampler to sample a mixed blob of colors, and then use it with brush 9 to paint strokes that are like you dipped your brush into several colors at once. I also love the way Verve handles mixing and blending... you don't change your brush, you just hold down shift and move the paint around. Once I got used to working this way I can't stand going back to other programs like Painter or even ArtRage now, because doing exactly what I want with the color on the canvas is so much faster in Verve... no more digging through huge menus of brushes or brush libraries. That said, it obviously can't match other apps for certain specific styles of digital art, but for mimicking real paint or 'futuristic' 3D paint, I don't think anything else even comes close to Verve right now. The developer, Taron, is also a really friendly and helpful guy... I really recommend heading to the forum there and checking out some of the things people have made in Verve. I guess I should add I have no relation whatsoever to the developer of this app, I just try to sing its praises because it is a hidden gem that few people are aware of.
I should've checked comments on this video a lot more often... just to lift my spirits! 8D ... ♥ .... THANKS A LOT! I can totally understand how the UI is overwhelming for new users, but it really is just a temp getup to dial up the parameters, though, I tried to make it a little more accessible. A new GUI will come, I promise! While I will try to offer the kind of immediate access that one can get so used to. Verve is almost an instrument, and as such it sorta asked to be learned to play it like one, too. I just can't expect that from everyone right away. I'm working on it! 8) Again, BIG THANKS, 400!
AH, You're so awesome! Thanks, mate! I love to see how you explore Verve. Of course, it's hard for me not being able to jump in and help you out, but it teaches me so much on how to improve the GUI and...of course...make proper tutorials! However, awesome, thank you VERY much for having made that video! YOU ROCK!
Hi Taron - are you planning on updates to Verve? Been a while since i visited your forums. Would be awesome to see an update to the UI and just to see Verve mature a bit. It deserves it. Best wishes!
Hey Peter, you bet! Yes, the whole GUI still is just in laboratory state, needless to mention a number of hotkey only features like swapping canvas textures and more. I'm planning to switch to C++, which is a greater endeavor, but it will greatly improve and expand all functionality including import and export formats. Plus I may finally be able to combat the insane anti-virus nonsense by serving the whole security certification extortion. 8P
Glad you checked this one out, a while back I think I asked if you played with this one. I think it's really awesome for environmental stuff (search painting) if you ever want to get more literal with it.
IMPORTANT: For those who want to try out the program, Verve MAY cause a FALSE positive on your virus protection software. I tried the program in the link provided and its completely safe but my browser tried to delete it. Don't worry, its completely safe. Please all thank Borodante for introducing us to this wonderful, creative free software! ^_^
Oh, the endless struggle. Thank you very much, Kelly! I hope, my 20th attempt to rectify that with Firefox and Google has finally stuck for a little longer. But it's hard to believe it will last, since I do keep updating it. Always the same battles for nothin'. Sigh. Thank you, though, I can really use help like yours on this! ♥
Master Artist and Programmer (and ZBrush God!) TARON said in one of his blogs that he was gonna re-work the interface, so we'll have to see. He DID warn that he fried an older video card, and warned to be sure your card's dust-free. As Boro said, VERVE depends heavily on your GPU.
I'm almost certain that a GTX 1070 could handle this with no hick-ups but I want to make sure. What would you say? Also, the link provided prompts me with a "harmful site" message. Not sure if i should proceed.
+tsorakin Its safe. This program does cause a false positive on virus firewalls. Don't worry, its completely safe. I got the same message and ran the program anyway without any flaws. The whole zip file is less then 1MB in size. Don't let this worry you, the full program is just very compact. Please check it out. Its free and safe. It works really slow on older computers, but it will still run on them. The GTX 1070 will probably run it really smoothly. Good luck.
Love this video! Its strangly satisfying... I have an idea tho. Could you like paint a scene with like a lake and some trees hanging over it, cuz never saw you do landscape and it would look very interesting to see you paint water with these fluid brushes!
Hey man! Stumbled upon your channel a few days ago through Brad Colbow's channel (he's a youtuber himself and apparently a fan of yours) and as a result I HAVE to watch EVERY Borodante video :) sort of addicted tbh, which is weird for me. Anyhoo, I was wondering what your background in art is, education wise? Did you go to art school or are you self taught? Do you go into any of that in one of your videos? I'm not watching them sequentially and I usually watch while working (which is kinda distracting duuude!), so I may have missed something here or there ;) EDIT: and 20 minutes later I watch your "AM I GERMAN" video where you answer pretty much this exact question :D Anyway, thanks for your videos! Keep it up, the world would be a colder place without your enthusiasm. Stay tuned!
Im curious to see you try drawing with this now. Look at what you've caused. Now I'm downloading it on my fairly weak computer you caused this, Boro. And I still have no regrets or true hatred for this.
BTW, have you seen artrage? It's not free, but there's demo. I've got a license with my wacom tablet and tried it, so I wonder what you think about it.
Hehe, I believe, there's a whole lot of baggage in the way of them pulling that off, so... ...and I do wonder, if their philosophy creates any pressure for them to even consider going down that road. I'm not worried just yet! ;o)
Adobe has been wanting digital watercolor - they licensed MoXi (I'm the developer) back in 2006, right after we unveiled it in SIGGRAPH 2005. They even hired me briefly to do the tech transfer. However, they finally did not hire me anymore, but I believe they continued to work on it based on my work. In 2015 they released Adobe Sketch on ipad, which has watercolor similar to my original MoXi from 10 years ago. Now they unveiled Project Genimi, which seems to be based on Adobe Sketch. But of course, even not joining Adobe, I would continue to work on digital watercolor and I think my improvement is still better than what they have. Just look up 'Expresii', which I released a few years back, and see for yourself.
@@alexmehler6765 they did license MoXi for advanced digital watercolor (I'm the developer) and hired me only briefly for tech transfer. But they didn't hire me as full time employee.
Thanks for this! I'This program piqued my interest, but after downloading I saw that the interface nigh unusable (in my opinion, but I'm a very slow learner and need things to be pretty clear). This video helped me save a lot of time.
This program looks like a fluid dynamics simulator that went through an identity crisis and decided to become painting software xD It looks really awesome, very impressive! I hope it will at least get an interface redesign. Those chaotic, trypophobia-inducing clusters of knobs are the only thing I'm not digging about the whole experience.
Is the link you provided safe for Verve? My computer keeps giving me warning about it...and its less than 1MB large...so I'm suspicious. Let me know, how large should the program file be, I'd love to give it a try?
Hi! I'm from Brazil and discovered your channel recently. So first... thanks for the lessons, tips and reviews. I'm really obssessed with your videos! xD Now, i'm wondering if you can do a review of FireAlpaca program? i'm trying to find some free alternatives, and have your opinion about it will be awsome to compare with Krita and others.
Hahahaha, no worries, I'll try to finally give it a real UI and not just my lab-version. I have something in mind already and it should get quite refreshing and clear!
@@mildlynerdyNot yet, but it will come. Don't let it scare you off, though. It's challenging right now, because you have almost full control over how it works, giving you access to parameters that normally are hidden in presets. As a result you can quite radically change the nature of its behavior with relatively few dials. It's not dissimilar to a church organ in that way. Though I want to make it much easier to use for beginners and artists, who care more about using the tools than designing the tool itself, haha, I still will provide access to all that, but in a more palatable way. HOWEVER, Thank you so very much for asking and hanging in there. I will take care of it as soon as I can!
Borodante, I thought we were your fronds, but you betrayed us so badly... Yeah, it's ok, you're such a big youtuber now, you don't have to worry about, you know, your fans' hurt feelings or anything. Awesome program, btw. Although I managed to get it to funny mode "whole canvas is slowly rotating and what you're gonna do with it, moron", no idea how ;) Too much muscle remember hotkeys from other programs I guess... EDIT: oh, so THAT was that weird spinning thing. Fix: save & load image :P Or [Alt]+[Shift]+[Ctrl]+[RMB], I guess (from manual).
Yep! But I may have a mac version sooner than later. Problem are tablet libraries for me right now... so there's a chance I may make a preliminary mac version without special tablet support (pressure and tilts). Hopefully I figure something out, though!
Why don't you just use real paint? lol. Photoshop still destroys every other program for overall stability, flexibility, control, etc... I don't care if it looks like real paint as long as it looks good. If i want a real paint effect i will use real paint.
Fantastic video, and this has only just barely scratched the surface of what you can do in Verve. The interface is pretty cryptic and confusing at first, but after spending some weeks learning exactly how each of those knobs affects the 'paint', I can do just about anything you can imagine in Verve. You can make those crazy psychedelic fluid abstracts, but with a more subtle adjustment of those knobs you can also create some incredibly realistic oil paint works. I pretty much exclusively work with brush 9 and 10 (9 is a bristle brush, 10 is a 'captured dab' brush). Between those two I can get any brush shape or style out of it... if you want a fan brush, you click in the brush window and drag to adjust the bias value, and it makes the brush narrower. If you dial brush 9 down to maximum bias it makes a very compelling palette knife. If you want multi-colored brush strokes, you can use the image sampler to sample a mixed blob of colors, and then use it with brush 9 to paint strokes that are like you dipped your brush into several colors at once. I also love the way Verve handles mixing and blending... you don't change your brush, you just hold down shift and move the paint around. Once I got used to working this way I can't stand going back to other programs like Painter or even ArtRage now, because doing exactly what I want with the color on the canvas is so much faster in Verve... no more digging through huge menus of brushes or brush libraries.
That said, it obviously can't match other apps for certain specific styles of digital art, but for mimicking real paint or 'futuristic' 3D paint, I don't think anything else even comes close to Verve right now. The developer, Taron, is also a really friendly and helpful guy... I really recommend heading to the forum there and checking out some of the things people have made in Verve. I guess I should add I have no relation whatsoever to the developer of this app, I just try to sing its praises because it is a hidden gem that few people are aware of.
I should've checked comments on this video a lot more often... just to lift my spirits! 8D ... ♥ .... THANKS A LOT! I can totally understand how the UI is overwhelming for new users, but it really is just a temp getup to dial up the parameters, though, I tried to make it a little more accessible. A new GUI will come, I promise! While I will try to offer the kind of immediate access that one can get so used to. Verve is almost an instrument, and as such it sorta asked to be learned to play it like one, too. I just can't expect that from everyone right away. I'm working on it! 8)
Again, BIG THANKS, 400!
AH, You're so awesome! Thanks, mate! I love to see how you explore Verve. Of course, it's hard for me not being able to jump in and help you out, but it teaches me so much on how to improve the GUI and...of course...make proper tutorials! However, awesome, thank you VERY much for having made that video! YOU ROCK!
Hi Taron - are you planning on updates to Verve? Been a while since i visited your forums. Would be awesome to see an update to the UI and just to see Verve mature a bit. It deserves it. Best wishes!
Hey Peter, you bet! Yes, the whole GUI still is just in laboratory state, needless to mention a number of hotkey only features like swapping canvas textures and more. I'm planning to switch to C++, which is a greater endeavor, but it will greatly improve and expand all functionality including import and export formats. Plus I may finally be able to combat the insane anti-virus nonsense by serving the whole security certification extortion. 8P
fantastic news! Can't wait! :)
@@Taronites when i tried to install it windows said the program may be harmful
@@DE1CRAFTS, some anti-virus nonsense is notoriously hyper-active and warns you for no reason. Verve is not harmful, don't worry, please!
The UI looks like if you flipped the wrong switch it might launch a torpedo or something.
SHHHHHH! xD
Funny!!! Actually... the UI looks like this old plugin software called Kai's Power Tools! Love it!
It's just looks like VST plugin for digital audio
@@Taronites the man, the legend.
Glad you checked this one out, a while back I think I asked if you played with this one. I think it's really awesome for environmental stuff (search painting) if you ever want to get more literal with it.
IMPORTANT:
For those who want to try out the program, Verve MAY cause a FALSE positive on your virus protection software. I tried the program in the link provided and its completely safe but my browser tried to delete it. Don't worry, its completely safe. Please all thank Borodante for introducing us to this wonderful, creative free software! ^_^
Oh, the endless struggle. Thank you very much, Kelly! I hope, my 20th attempt to rectify that with Firefox and Google has finally stuck for a little longer. But it's hard to believe it will last, since I do keep updating it. Always the same battles for nothin'. Sigh. Thank you, though, I can really use help like yours on this! ♥
Oh my God! This may have just changed my life. I have to try this out.
Thanks for making this ! Rebelle and this are amazing pieces of softwares that blow everything away
Master Artist and Programmer (and ZBrush God!) TARON said in one of his blogs that he was gonna re-work the interface, so we'll have to see. He DID warn that he fried an older video card, and warned to be sure your card's dust-free. As Boro said, VERVE depends heavily on your GPU.
I'm almost certain that a GTX 1070 could handle this with no hick-ups but I want to make sure. What would you say? Also, the link provided prompts me with a "harmful site" message. Not sure if i should proceed.
+tsorakin
Its safe. This program does cause a false positive on virus firewalls. Don't worry, its completely safe. I got the same message and ran the program anyway without any flaws. The whole zip file is less then 1MB in size. Don't let this worry you, the full program is just very compact. Please check it out. Its free and safe. It works really slow on older computers, but it will still run on them. The GTX 1070 will probably run it really smoothly. Good luck.
Well, the program is around since 2013, and maybe you should check out the author's artwork also (goes by the name of Taron). He's really talented.
I've played with this a few times and it is the best interface once you get used to it. Nothing can compare
Love this video!
Its strangly satisfying...
I have an idea tho. Could you like paint a scene with like a lake and some trees hanging over it, cuz never saw you do landscape and it would look very interesting to see you paint water with these fluid brushes!
I really like what you made at 14:27 it looks more conventional, less extreme.
I remember playing around with this a few years ago but completely forgot the name of it. Thanks for the vid as always duder
I feel like someone out there can make (or already made) some REALLY good paintings with this program
Glad to see another video!!
Wow. Not sure what to say, except I must try this
The background music matches the video perfectly
Now you can do some really great psychedelic backgrounds/skies/clouds.
Hey man!
Stumbled upon your channel a few days ago through Brad Colbow's channel (he's a youtuber himself and apparently a fan of yours) and as a result I HAVE to watch EVERY Borodante video :) sort of addicted tbh, which is weird for me.
Anyhoo, I was wondering what your background in art is, education wise? Did you go to art school or are you self taught?
Do you go into any of that in one of your videos? I'm not watching them sequentially and I usually watch while working (which is kinda distracting duuude!), so I may have missed something here or there ;)
EDIT: and 20 minutes later I watch your "AM I GERMAN" video where you answer pretty much this exact question :D
Anyway, thanks for your videos! Keep it up, the world would be a colder place without your enthusiasm.
Stay tuned!
Im curious to see you try drawing with this now. Look at what you've caused.
Now I'm downloading it on my fairly weak computer
you caused this, Boro.
And I still have no regrets or true hatred for this.
this program is very impressive
Youve stopped calling us your fronds and i dont like it
Kurt Nobranes but we are his fronds ;-;
Are you saying you aren't fronds with dead people? That's discriminatory.
I'm not feeling the UI but this looks really cool. I might check this out.
BTW, have you seen artrage? It's not free, but there's demo. I've got a license with my wacom tablet and tried it, so I wonder what you think about it.
I liked the interface and liquid effects
If can made pouring art with this in the future can be very nice.
I wonder how long it will be before Adobe steals this and then claim they 'invented' it?
Hehe, I believe, there's a whole lot of baggage in the way of them pulling that off, so... ...and I do wonder, if their philosophy creates any pressure for them to even consider going down that road. I'm not worried just yet! ;o)
normally they buy it + the developer , which could be pretty cool for him
Adobe has been wanting digital watercolor - they licensed MoXi (I'm the developer) back in 2006, right after we unveiled it in SIGGRAPH 2005. They even hired me briefly to do the tech transfer. However, they finally did not hire me anymore, but I believe they continued to work on it based on my work. In 2015 they released Adobe Sketch on ipad, which has watercolor similar to my original MoXi from 10 years ago. Now they unveiled Project Genimi, which seems to be based on Adobe Sketch. But of course, even not joining Adobe, I would continue to work on digital watercolor and I think my improvement is still better than what they have. Just look up 'Expresii', which I released a few years back, and see for yourself.
@@alexmehler6765 they did license MoXi for advanced digital watercolor (I'm the developer) and hired me only briefly for tech transfer. But they didn't hire me as full time employee.
hey boro dont know if you noticed but it has some fake pressure sensitivity on mouse. The faster you move the mouse the thicker the line is
That's called velocity, and almost every painting program, including Photoshop has this. You just need to tweak your brush settings
This should have a built in recorder for speed paintings. I like watching the paint
wow now i am very curious about the program... i think it would be a good addition to the programs i am already using :D thanks for the video dude ;)
Thanks for this! I'This program piqued my interest, but after downloading I saw that the interface nigh unusable (in my opinion, but I'm a very slow learner and need things to be pretty clear). This video helped me save a lot of time.
Watch some of my original videos! I'll make new ones, soon, but you'll have to deal with my accent...sorry about that! ;o)
This is amazing, very alpha but still amazing! he should redesign the UI and add more features and then release it :D
THIS IS FUCKING BEAUTIFUL!
This program looks like a fluid dynamics simulator that went through an identity crisis and decided to become painting software xD
It looks really awesome, very impressive! I hope it will at least get an interface redesign. Those chaotic, trypophobia-inducing clusters of knobs are the only thing I'm not digging about the whole experience.
2 dislikes are too much. We need more malk
btw i love ur vids ty for existing ok ty bye i gtg im sick haha ok
Is the link you provided safe for Verve? My computer keeps giving me warning about it...and its less than 1MB large...so I'm suspicious. Let me know, how large should the program file be, I'd love to give it a try?
+Borodante
I did eventually download it and check it out and works fine. Thank you so much. It was a false positive on the virus firewall.
Are there alternative links? I'm getting virus/malware error messages from the link above
dante, when you gonna do another livestream?
Hi! I'm from Brazil and discovered your channel recently.
So first... thanks for the lessons, tips and reviews. I'm really obssessed with your videos! xD
Now, i'm wondering if you can do a review of FireAlpaca program? i'm trying to find some free alternatives, and have your opinion about it will be awsome to compare with Krita and others.
make a full painting in this program!
You should make a painting on it xD it would be awesome 👍
i love u dante pot more videos pleasse
Who needs drugs?! 🤓
Thanks for the Verve showing thingy! It was funny to watch. Please 'n Thank you! ❤️
The cursor freaked me out at first lmao
It's pretty cool though
4:30 ----> galaxy brain mode:on
13:40 too
What about Expresii...It also like this
how do you increase the canvas size
Have you checked mari program, please share your views, thanqs
What are your computer specs?
Just curious if that has anything to do with the lag at high rez.
is this availerble on ipad pro ?
Thank you.
3:30 That fluidity is damn sexy...
Btw its "Ebru"
The download link doesn't work. Please help!!!!!!
It does work. Firefox and Chrome just block it. Download it with Internet Explorer/Edge, those work.
HMMM you can now paint digital paint pouring kinda technique
Verve makes me want to become a UI designer(?) so I can make it more user-friendly
Hahahaha, no worries, I'll try to finally give it a real UI and not just my lab-version. I have something in mind already and it should get quite refreshing and clear!
@@Taronites Have there been any developments on that? As a new user, I find it extremely difficult to navigate.
@@mildlynerdyNot yet, but it will come. Don't let it scare you off, though. It's challenging right now, because you have almost full control over how it works, giving you access to parameters that normally are hidden in presets. As a result you can quite radically change the nature of its behavior with relatively few dials. It's not dissimilar to a church organ in that way. Though I want to make it much easier to use for beginners and artists, who care more about using the tools than designing the tool itself, haha, I still will provide access to all that, but in a more palatable way. HOWEVER, Thank you so very much for asking and hanging in there. I will take care of it as soon as I can!
Can you draw a coral reef on an alien planet? :3
Borodante, I thought we were your fronds, but you betrayed us so badly... Yeah, it's ok, you're such a big youtuber now, you don't have to worry about, you know, your fans' hurt feelings or anything.
Awesome program, btw. Although I managed to get it to funny mode "whole canvas is slowly rotating and what you're gonna do with it, moron", no idea how ;) Too much muscle remember hotkeys from other programs I guess...
EDIT: oh, so THAT was that weird spinning thing. Fix: save & load image :P Or [Alt]+[Shift]+[Ctrl]+[RMB], I guess (from manual).
I can't make heads or tails of its ui
Just watched a 4 min ad for you
PC only right?
Yep! But I may have a mac version sooner than later. Problem are tablet libraries for me right now... so there's a chance I may make a preliminary mac version without special tablet support (pressure and tilts). Hopefully I figure something out, though!
where was jerry?
Drawler who's jerry?
cultured.flowers the skull.
👍👍👍
Why did you stop calling us fronds?
Adjust the F L U I D I T Y!
Take notes Adobe.
It looks like musturd and ketchup
I swear your hair was brown a year ago, you are getting more and more blond as time goes by.
Modern art be like
Dude, embrace your baldness! You would look like the guy from brazzers, there's no shame in that. Anyways, great videos!
the prog is ok , but not what people make it seem like in the comments
Why don't you just use real paint? lol. Photoshop still destroys every other program for overall stability, flexibility, control, etc... I don't care if it looks like real paint as long as it looks good. If i want a real paint effect i will use real paint.
I don't think that how true paint behaves...
First