As someone who didn’t play Expedition League, I’ve watched plenty of video guides on it. Not one said the strategy is prioritizing Artifacts when running logbooks, they just give you a blanket statement of get rich. I appreciate the depth of information, thank you.
Glad to help clear that up! Yeah, logbooks CAN give random currency and useful stuff, but that's not really the main thing they provide. They consistently give tons of artifacts, which balances out with Expedition in maps that usually gives a lot more reroll currency and fewer artifacts.
Go with expedition and betrayal. Betrayal unlocks crafting, gives the best XP in the game by far, and sets you up with tons of scarabs for whatever endgame strat you want later, and even has some nice potential drops from Catarina, including seriously valuable veiled orbs. The safehouses yields 2-3 times the XP as normal content, and if you have a good clear speed it will propel you to mid nineties very quickly. They are both on the same side of the atlas skill tree too!
@@kjetilknyttnev3702 +1, starting with this strat again, then switching to blight+ beyond much later because the way they interact with each other is hilarious fun
same. the pacing is perfect, perfect english (not like some popular cc's), very imformative, the creator dosent think we know half of he game just for the same of making another video. I hope this channel does great.
This is such a good guide, I've tried looking for a lot of explanation of how to start mapping and focus on a league mechanic but 95% of content creator talk in good details but explain things as if everyone is a vet and keep dumping in jargons and other mechanic that gets lost in explanation. The way you structure and explain things really makes sense. Just sub and gonna look at the betrayal guide and now I'm actually excited to start mapping. Good stuff man !
With the new chisels, expedition could be insane, especially with the pack size one. Certainly interested to see how good this league is! Thanks for the video and the work you've been doing before League Start! I've gotten some good stuff from them.
thanks for the vid, really easy to follow. Just started farming expedition and put ritual altars on as well. A few maps in I dropped a mageblood and got 3 apothecary cards off a ritual altar. I know this has nothing to do with expedition, but I just wanted to tell someone about my insane rng. Guess I'm never getting lucky for the rest of my poe career lol
Expedition is a game changer for early league starts. Rog crafts has given me some nutty gear that I could bring even to late game and Tujen has always come in clutch with a steady supply of Chaos and the occasional Divine, to which I even got lucky with a mirror shard at one point. If you don't do them, Expedition logbooks sell like hotcakes and could net you a modest profit.
Expedition was THE mechanic that couldn't be off the tree in SSF, now with 3 trees it's always on one map, along with splinters and/or harvest with blue altars, great stuff for tujen with all that currency (because my brain tingles when I have to do Rog)
For new players. READ what you are giving enemies Expedition is a mechanic that can oneshot multiple mirror builds or be completely invulnerable if you dont pay attention. if you ever see " monsters Ignore physical dmg reduction" DO NOT CLICK THAT.
If expedition ever got nerfed I legit would have zero clue what to do. The only reason the game is even playable is because I know if I do enough Tujen I’ll get a jackpot eventually xD That first divine really opens up the whole game.
I really want to love Expedition, but Ive been a flicker enjoyer this league and with the +2 modifiers scarab its felt like phys immune or unleechable is in 3/4ths of my maps and its overall super rippy, hope I can find a league starter basically made for expedition for 3.26
Pushing Quant/Rarity/Pack Size and Eldritch Altars is a really good approach, then just scarab drop chance and that should pretty much tie up all of your points!
Need to be able to zoom out more.. so hard to see whats inside the big bomb which sucks in general, but its extra trash when theres a monsters are immune to X
Thanks for the guide. Was just generally putting atlas nodes into essences and horticraft. This looks more my style. As a side note, do you have a link to your hideout setup anywhere? Love how you have it.
In Necropolis I didn't get a single Div from Tujen after like 100 rolls. Switched out of that mechanic jaded lol. Maybe just bad RNG but at least he gives all the other bubblegum currency you need for crafting.
Yeah I first got like 2 in first 20 rolls, printing money! Then hit dry for around that 80-90 rolls. RNG can be brutal. Have to think these things as just extra cherries on top. Not as the main source.
Stupid expedition question I'm having trouble finding an answer to and I'm a noob and dont' know things. I ran into vorana on an expedition just now and got rolled by her. I think I understand most of the mechanics and probably just need to be a bit tankier, but the thing that confused me was that she seemed immune to damage most of the time even when I was in the circle. The wiki talks about a change where she doesn't take damage until you reenter the storm, but you have to pass through it in order to get back to her safe zone so that should be no issue right? (I assume that that's something they just put in as a de-cheese for builds with a ton of range that could snipe her from a distance?) What am I missing here?
At the end of the video you casually mention the 19 Burial Medallions might be a divines worth at league start. Where are you selling those or do you mean it could be worth a divine using it rerolling for tujen currency? I am trying to sell some of my reroll currency and dont see any listed on the bulk exchange and the trade site and dont see any in the currency exchange at kingsmarch so i have no idea what it should be priced at? Is it just too late in the league so nobody is buying those currencies anymore?
If you're having trouble selling them, it's probably just because the league is so old. At the start of leagues, Burial Medallions sell like hotcakes! You can also use them yourself, and generally you will get more profit from using them instead of selling them, but it's RNG vs. guaranteed currency.
Either I am unlucky, or logbooks drop rate sucks. I've made a set of 25 full juices expedition maps, with runic monstres scarabs, additional imlicits, 100+ iiq. No logbooks, few reroll currency. What am I doing wrong? Atlas fully specked to exp and Jun. Blue altars.
I went for it but found it rather underwhelming so far... I think I might switch to harvest. Harvest seems to be very steady, consistent currency. Maybe I doing it wrong, idk.
What builds are capable of running those T16 maps 8 mod with all scarab including the one with two more suffix and affix? I tried two maps with it, all my minion army was getting killed and me later :P. I normally can run anything including full ultimatum, T17, etc. This has been the hardest content imo. Anyways I’m running it without that last scarab which feels fine and sad at the same time.
Since you like toxic rain so much do you ever play PC of bouncing? I was a toxic rain fan for a long time. Still am. But PCOB is a nice change up when I want to break from my normal league start.
hello path of evening, i heard you mention there is a way to blow up all the things at ones instead of placing single charges during the expedition. do you perhapds know how it's called in the atlas skill tree so i can work towards it. or is it a waste of a atlas point? thanks in advance!
big boom is not worth to pick early since you cant always run open layout maps and when you try to use big boom in closed layout you will lose on 3/4 of loot and chars are too weak to ignore all negatives
Imo in map expedition is overrated, any juicing with big bomb is super rippy on league start gear, logbooks are also more profitable too. I always just buy logbooks and run them instead.
@@daedalus6433 I wouldn't flat out say the builds are bad, but lets be realistic. Big bomba is super rippy, by some stated (and myself included), rippier than some pre-nerf T17 maps.
A bad combo of remnant mods can kill all your defense from evasion and phys reduction, and give monsters always crit and a ton of pen. It can make it so that you can't get hit at all.
Fully-juiced Expedition was the most dangerous content we did last league. FR PF could face-tank Shrine-buffed Ghosted t17 bosses, and Expedition could kill it in
I don't understand how people can do the one-big-bomb thing without bricking their encounters all the time I can't take the 'immune to phys damage' nodes, and some of the others give me massive trouble too... So how do people do the 'one big bomb'?
I have had to augment my gear i run all increased chance of getting rare act 6 right now so far all pretty ez .. not super fast minion clear necro .. but i dont get the crafting lol MIDMax i guess.. but iam going good so far only act 6 new player
As someone who didn’t play Expedition League, I’ve watched plenty of video guides on it. Not one said the strategy is prioritizing Artifacts when running logbooks, they just give you a blanket statement of get rich. I appreciate the depth of information, thank you.
Glad to help clear that up! Yeah, logbooks CAN give random currency and useful stuff, but that's not really the main thing they provide. They consistently give tons of artifacts, which balances out with Expedition in maps that usually gives a lot more reroll currency and fewer artifacts.
You must’ve missed SpicySushi’s guide then because he made that exact point. Made me go “doh”, so obvious once you think about it.
Go with expedition and betrayal. Betrayal unlocks crafting, gives the best XP in the game by far, and sets you up with tons of scarabs for whatever endgame strat you want later, and even has some nice potential drops from Catarina, including seriously valuable veiled orbs. The safehouses yields 2-3 times the XP as normal content, and if you have a good clear speed it will propel you to mid nineties very quickly. They are both on the same side of the atlas skill tree too!
@@kjetilknyttnev3702 +1, starting with this strat again, then switching to blight+ beyond much later because the way they interact with each other is hilarious fun
oops missed this
good shout
This is the first league I'm going to actually try getting into expedition because it has always intimidated me. Thanks for the clear explanation!
You are welcome!
Nice guide man, thank you! Now I feel more confident running Expedition.
Glad to help!
As an idiot casual, this is literally becoming my favorite channel on YT. Great work on the videos exile
We appreciate the love
same. the pacing is perfect, perfect english (not like some popular cc's), very imformative, the creator dosent think we know half of he game just for the same of making another video. I hope this channel does great.
Thank you so much! We're trying our best!
This is such a good guide, I've tried looking for a lot of explanation of how to start mapping and focus on a league mechanic but 95% of content creator talk in good details but explain things as if everyone is a vet and keep dumping in jargons and other mechanic that gets lost in explanation. The way you structure and explain things really makes sense. Just sub and gonna look at the betrayal guide and now I'm actually excited to start mapping. Good stuff man !
Glad you enjoyed it!
If you keep making guides we’re going to need to be able to have more atlas trees 😅
That would be ideal!
With the new chisels, expedition could be insane, especially with the pack size one. Certainly interested to see how good this league is! Thanks for the video and the work you've been doing before League Start! I've gotten some good stuff from them.
Very true! The new chisels are really interesting!
The Danzig (not dannig) name drop made me smile. 20:27.
You're welcome
Motherrr... tell the Exiles not to walk my waayyy
Thanks Path I've learned a lot from your Heist, Betrayal, and Expedition guides 😊
Glad to hear!
I just came across your content this league. All of your videos are so solid. I could see this channel blowing up.
We hope so! Help us! Spread the word!
thanks for the vid, really easy to follow. Just started farming expedition and put ritual altars on as well. A few maps in I dropped a mageblood and got 3 apothecary cards off a ritual altar. I know this has nothing to do with expedition, but I just wanted to tell someone about my insane rng. Guess I'm never getting lucky for the rest of my poe career lol
Congratulations on having good luck
Expedition is a game changer for early league starts. Rog crafts has given me some nutty gear that I could bring even to late game and Tujen has always come in clutch with a steady supply of Chaos and the occasional Divine, to which I even got lucky with a mirror shard at one point. If you don't do them, Expedition logbooks sell like hotcakes and could net you a modest profit.
Yup!
Expedition was THE mechanic that couldn't be off the tree in SSF, now with 3 trees it's always on one map, along with splinters and/or harvest with blue altars, great stuff for tujen with all that currency (because my brain tingles when I have to do Rog)
Yep
For new players. READ what you are giving enemies Expedition is a mechanic that can oneshot multiple mirror builds or be completely invulnerable if you dont pay attention. if you ever see " monsters Ignore physical dmg reduction" DO NOT CLICK THAT.
Yup! Reading is necessary, unfortunately.
@@chidori0117 I can’t read I just click
great video, very well explained
Glad you liked it!
If expedition ever got nerfed I legit would have zero clue what to do. The only reason the game is even playable is because I know if I do enough Tujen I’ll get a jackpot eventually xD
That first divine really opens up the whole game.
True
@@PathofEvening the legend has noticed me! lol.
I really want to love Expedition, but Ive been a flicker enjoyer this league and with the +2 modifiers scarab its felt like phys immune or unleechable is in 3/4ths of my maps and its overall super rippy, hope I can find a league starter basically made for expedition for 3.26
Fair enough!
10:04
oh . oh.. great mods.. great idea to pop it xD
:)
What are best builds for Expedition?
All are fine. That's the point of Expedition.
I always start Essence and usually get a divine or two day one. Literally just printing money.
Yup!
Thanks for th great guide! How would you spend ur atlas points after the setup? Ive got quite a few left so curious about more endgame expedition :)
Pushing Quant/Rarity/Pack Size and Eldritch Altars is a really good approach, then just scarab drop chance and that should pretty much tie up all of your points!
@@PathofEvening thanks alot man!
Thanks for engaging my confirmation bias
Any time!
Gonna do the same thing this league
Sounds good
Need to be able to zoom out more.. so hard to see whats inside the big bomb which sucks in general, but its extra trash when theres a monsters are immune to X
Camera woes
Getting 1 tapped is always fun in Expo.
Oof
Thanks for the guide. Was just generally putting atlas nodes into essences and horticraft. This looks more my style.
As a side note, do you have a link to your hideout setup anywhere? Love how you have it.
It uses supporter pack MTX you can't buy anymore
@@PathofEvening thanks for getting back to me.
In Necropolis I didn't get a single Div from Tujen after like 100 rolls. Switched out of that mechanic jaded lol. Maybe just bad RNG but at least he gives all the other bubblegum currency you need for crafting.
RNG is RNG!
Yeah I first got like 2 in first 20 rolls, printing money! Then hit dry for around that 80-90 rolls. RNG can be brutal. Have to think these things as just extra cherries on top. Not as the main source.
Whats your league starter?
Llarold hasn't decided.
do you think that additionally speccing into essenses with this tree is viable?
In necropolis I was able to reach all the essence nodes while pushing expeditions but you will need to have most of your points to do it
That's right. Definitely doable, just takes a bit.
Stupid expedition question I'm having trouble finding an answer to and I'm a noob and dont' know things. I ran into vorana on an expedition just now and got rolled by her. I think I understand most of the mechanics and probably just need to be a bit tankier, but the thing that confused me was that she seemed immune to damage most of the time even when I was in the circle. The wiki talks about a change where she doesn't take damage until you reenter the storm, but you have to pass through it in order to get back to her safe zone so that should be no issue right? (I assume that that's something they just put in as a de-cheese for builds with a ton of range that could snipe her from a distance?)
What am I missing here?
She does have an immunity phase, she dashes at you a few times, then moves to the next phase
Do you think the Hexblast trickster could kill everything fast enough or should I stick to sanctum?
Hexblast can stack mines ahead of time, so it's good for Expedition
Yup, 100%.
Hey man. I know it's an old vid but could I ask what build you are running? Thank you in advance
Toxic Rain Pathfinder. It took a bit of a nerf this league.
At the end of the video you casually mention the 19 Burial Medallions might be a divines worth at league start. Where are you selling those or do you mean it could be worth a divine using it rerolling for tujen currency? I am trying to sell some of my reroll currency and dont see any listed on the bulk exchange and the trade site and dont see any in the currency exchange at kingsmarch so i have no idea what it should be priced at? Is it just too late in the league so nobody is buying those currencies anymore?
If you're having trouble selling them, it's probably just because the league is so old. At the start of leagues, Burial Medallions sell like hotcakes! You can also use them yourself, and generally you will get more profit from using them instead of selling them, but it's RNG vs. guaranteed currency.
where is the 8% coming from to guarrantee expedition ?> its only 92%
Baseline.
Either I am unlucky, or logbooks drop rate sucks. I've made a set of 25 full juices expedition maps, with runic monstres scarabs, additional imlicits, 100+ iiq. No logbooks, few reroll currency. What am I doing wrong? Atlas fully specked to exp and Jun. Blue altars.
rng is rng
I love expedition, but it seems like I die all the time. It's really tough
Oof. Gotta check the Remnants
I went for it but found it rather underwhelming so far... I think I might switch to harvest. Harvest seems to be very steady, consistent currency.
Maybe I doing it wrong, idk.
Harvest is good!
How are you meant to use the one big boom explosive when usually there's mods that will make it impossible to kill monsters?
Move around them?
what is that energy shield mtx that is green/teal in color?
Part of the old supporter pack, we think
What builds are capable of running those T16 maps 8 mod with all scarab including the one with two more suffix and affix? I tried two maps with it, all my minion army was getting killed and me later :P. I normally can run anything including full ultimatum, T17, etc. This has been the hardest content imo. Anyways I’m running it without that last scarab which feels fine and sad at the same time.
That's the thing with expedition. Any build can do it, but it can also brick any build. You're at the mercy of RNG on the reliquaries.
How do you get up to 40-50 refresh currencies? Is it based of the amount of remnants you explode × quant?
That's right.
what builds qualities make a build good for expidition? just clear speed?
Clear speed is pretty much it
Can there be multi Expedition ecounter in one map ?
exmple: atlas nodes ,scarbs and map device
One per map
Since you like toxic rain so much do you ever play PC of bouncing? I was a toxic rain fan for a long time. Still am. But PCOB is a nice change up when I want to break from my normal league start.
Loved regular PC as a league start build. Haven't played PCOB, but will have to check it out!
hello path of evening, i heard you mention there is a way to blow up all the things at ones instead of placing single charges during the expedition. do you perhapds know how it's called in the atlas skill tree so i can work towards it. or is it a waste of a atlas point? thanks in advance!
It's called Extreme Archaeology, and it is absolutely worth using.
@@PathofEvening awsome thanks again!
Any wat fast check for immunity? Id hate to place a big bomb only to see an immunity
Just mouseover the icon in the bottom right and check for yellow text.
whats the absolute best build for expedition?
No direct answer for that. Good for most builds.
Wait you get more rewards from the big bomb?
Yeah of course. It hits all the reliquaries and runic monsters at the same time so they all get all the benefits
@@PathofEvening oh i thought the modifiers added up on everyone anyways.. thx
Hey I am noob sorry for the dumb question, what is that build you are using in the intro?
Can't remember offhand, we have so many clips for these types of videos.
I'Ve so many points left, were to put them
Anywhere you like!
good
Thanks
big boom is not worth to pick early since you cant always run open layout maps
and when you try to use big boom in closed layout you will lose on 3/4 of loot
and chars are too weak to ignore all negatives
Your mileage may vary.
I made so many divines early last league because of tujen. Also, was able to roll a mage blood because buying ancient orbs
> was able to roll a mage blood because buying ancient orbs
Liar.
Very nice!
Imo in map expedition is overrated, any juicing with big bomb is super rippy on league start gear, logbooks are also more profitable too. I always just buy logbooks and run them instead.
Not overrated. Logbooks are boring AF
If your big bomb is super rippy, your build is bad or you're not checking the mods being chosen
@@daedalus6433 I wouldn't flat out say the builds are bad, but lets be realistic. Big bomba is super rippy, by some stated (and myself included), rippier than some pre-nerf T17 maps.
A bad combo of remnant mods can kill all your defense from evasion and phys reduction, and give monsters always crit and a ton of pen. It can make it so that you can't get hit at all.
Fully-juiced Expedition was the most dangerous content we did last league. FR PF could face-tank Shrine-buffed Ghosted t17 bosses, and Expedition could kill it in
Where’s the rest of the atlas points go?
Wherever you want, this is an early league tree.
pob ple bro
It was a build from last league when we made this video (before league start), no pob for it
ähmm 3 min in and i got 4 ads....
Blame UA-cam... not our choice tbh
I hate expedition I really do
It's not for everyone
1st
2nd
I don't understand how people can do the one-big-bomb thing without bricking their encounters all the time
I can't take the 'immune to phys damage' nodes, and some of the others give me massive trouble too... So how do people do the 'one big bomb'?
Read them and not take the ones you can't do
I have had to augment my gear i run all increased chance of getting rare act 6 right now so far all pretty ez .. not super fast minion clear necro .. but i dont get the crafting lol MIDMax i guess.. but iam going good so far only act 6 new player
excellent