Still waiting on 2 things. 1) Offline mode 2) Announcement of the servers shutting down thus massive Steam discount similar to what happened with Marvels Avengers.
I find it hilariously bad that the cosmetics for suicide squad is literally armor pieces of the justice league. Like what a joke to be playing as some side villains dressed up as superheroes.
@@Tybear-qz4bx because reports have shown that players have been locked out of logging into the actual game, and this hasn't been fixed for owners of the deluxe edition
I love how they're including the reskinned Braniac boss fights in the road map as if that's a selling point for the season updates. If the only new boss encounters they're going to provide are copies of what players have already experienced, I don't see how that appeals to anyone looking for a new live-service shooter to commit to.
i think the idea was to have the new boss of every season be a new DC hero turned evil brainiac clone, and it gives them 3-5 months to make it "good"... except the entire dev team doesnt know what "good" is and the game is seriously failing already and are probably being rushed to produce any content
@@dangelocake2635 is it though? how much of it now is just going to be "the executives"? they took 6 years to make this, and 2 months to release this "roadmap". some of that is definitely execs, but devs incompetency are not excused just because the low hanging fruit of a scapegoat exec is there. the story was dogshit, the boss fights boring and the overall gameplay pretty jank. those are not the fault of executives.
If you have to end up fighting brainiac 12 times in the end does that mean we have to fight the flash version then green lantern, batman then superman versions 4 times each. Its ridiculous unless they somehow include versions like wonder woman, aquaman, green arrow and martian manhunter versions but i seriously doubt they are clever enough to think about doing that to bring some variety to the game so your not doing the same 💩 for another 50 hours that youve already spend 100 hours doing
I love the fact that the main drive of this update is a character that plays almost exactly like the other 4 characters but he moves around in a different way. What a joke of gameplay design
Hmm... an evil game written and edited by evil people for evil purposes filled to the brim with scummy, predatory business practices. What's not to love? I rejoice at this product failing so hard.
This is why it will fail. Even if people like it, it is such a hated game who are you going to play with? Who is talking about it? No one cares if you did something cool in Ss.
Indeed, it’s the absolute pinnacle of corporativism. The sad thing is that it’s not the executives, or the PMs, or the POs, or the Sweet Baby Inc folk that are going to see their jobs on the line, No, it will be the developers, designers, artists.. whose jobs are already badly paid, despite them being the ones that actually produce a game. Really sad the state of AAA game development currently.
Ah yes Batbloke's most notorious villain, The Jester. I'm betting it'll be Mrs. Freeze, but from a different dimension where Nora turned into the villain rather than Victor 😂😂😂
When I played Marvel's Avengers, I could at least counting on heroes playing differently to each other so the monthsof waiting wasn't a complete loss. But in a game where everyone shoots the same guns, what's really different about the characters? What are players really looking forward to?
Borderlands released in 2009 and understood that in a game where everyone uses the same guns, you need to make the characters unique. Welcome to 2024 where gaming has regressed just like the rest of the world.
@@EntrepedBLs took a very basic idea and actually thought it through. Guns with unique and interesting characters. WB said guns and make these characters as lame as possible
@@heathclips4066they could’ve done an alternate Penguin though; one who’s a bit younger and more in shape and I don’t think anyone would’ve really batted an eye.
Ive always hated the cop out that its always the managers or investors fault. Its perfectly reasonable for it to also be the fault of incompetent devs. I think alot of times it can be the managers fault but people just assume its the managers and let the actual workers off the hook. Then we see those same workers go to another company or even make their own and wow shocker the game isnt that great Palia is a recent example it was ex blizzard and riot devs who wanted to make a nice mmo about crafting and gathering. And after several years of seasoned developers working on this project we got a single player game with enough content to last you about a week. Look at bungie, bungie tricked people into thinking activision was the problem, activision exited the contract and then sony bought them. Now we see bungie was always the problem.
The thing about this joker is that for all the multiverse stuff they really were lazy when it came to the joker. Like we have seen multiple versions of a joker in comics and animated movies. They could have made the Jester or Chuckles the clown, something that would have involved some creativity besides a cheap knock off Joker. And that literally applies to the whole game, there isn't much thought or creativity.
Can't wait until they add Katana and then not let you use her Katana because this is a derivative shooter that renders deadshot redundant by giving everyone his specialty
Be even worse when mr freeze and killer croc dlc come out instead of using his freeze gun or eating people as croc....no you get to use a crappy shotgun instead 🤦♂️
Yup. I rarely buy full price games anymore. Sick and tired of not just bad games, but games that need years of patches to finally be in a state they should have been in at release. Sadly, the industry has trained just as many people to eat s*** and be thankful for it.
There were only a *50* player difference between Suicide Squad and Gotham Knight. A game that flopped two YEARS ago is keeping pace with a two MONTH old game.
@@acev3521 Dune is carryng the movies division, i am not sure it can carry the games too (Does WB even has the rights of Dune games?) Also Dune 3 will take a while to come out
@@Tybear-qz4bx oh, pi$$ off with that bs. One does not have to play the damn game to aim critique towards it. Especially not when talking about design.
"hey guys look how deep our game is😢😢 this joker is very insecure 😡😡, it's not fair you guys everyone's playing helldivers please buy our colour pack for Harley Quinn's annoying ass😩"
I believe in some universal concepts Snow is cold The earth rotates around the sun Luke Stephens will make a new "sceptic" video about Suicide Squad as soon as there is any news about it
Considering the atmosphere around this game it wouldn't surprise me that they made this Joker the way he is so Harley never feels threatened by him. She'll constantly be putting him down and reminding him how "Mr. J" has no power over her and nobody would believe it if this was the Arkham verse Joker. Arkhamverse Joker was never brawny but he was always intimidating. That Joker was someone you'd feel would gleefully put this Harley down in a second if she got uppity with him. So the new Joker has to be much less threatening to make what I believe will be a more boss chick Harley/Joker interaction work.
I have never seen a game that hates its source material more than this game. It’s like they actively try to challenge themselves to go for the most stupid, disrespectful and ignorant approach possible in regards to character design and behaviour.
They spilled the beans about the season 1 playable character like a month or 2 before release. Im going to assume they did it because their confidence about the game selling was undoubtedly low. Thats not the Joker, thats just Joe.
As long as they dont add melee combat this game can die out idgaf. They ruined Batman, they ruined Harley and now they ruin Joker. Oh and then theres Mr Freeze genderswapped to a lesbian Mrs Freeze as 2nd DLC, then we get Deadshots daughter thats a teenage arms dealer wannabe criminal type literally NOBODY asked for and lastly Deathstroke to keep our attention until Season 4 and i dont really want to imagine what they gonna do to that poor guy in the end
Thank the Gods Below, I smelled this miles away and kept away. At least they showed what kind of game this was from the beginning. I'm thankful for that. I was a huge fan of the last game, and this was totally not the same.
People say that this is a Rocksteady game, but correct me if I'm wrong but haven't the people who made the Arkham trilogy already moved elsewhere? So the people who made Suicide Squad are completely different people and they're just using the Rocksteady -name for their own game?
Wait wait wait, the thing you like about the joker is using the umbrella? Isn’t the umbrella the penguins thing, not the joker? Do these people even DC?
So what? Harley doesn't use a batclaw, deadshot doesn't use a jet pack and boomerang doesn't use a speed force gauntlet. But because of the plot and story they do... I care more about the gameplay than how comic accurate it is
This is why I believe we should stop following game dev companies like they were the small close knit culture studios of the past. Just because you are buying a game from Rockstar or DICE doesn’t mean you are getting a game developed by the same people that delivered Red Dead Redemption 2 or Battlefield 3 or even the original Mirror’s Edge. Not only most of the original developers and artists, designers, etc may have left in the meanwhile, but also the success brought in new investors and with them the incessant need for constant abrupt artificial growth that leads to very quick and large scale hiring processes - that consequently affect and deeply change the internal culture and the fine tuned creative and motivational alignment that those original teams had, and that maximised the quality of their output. Ed Catmull, one of the founders of Pixar, talks about this importance of making sure the people are put together in ways that make sense to their profiles in his Creativity, Inc book. It is a lot of work and takes a lot of time to find the perfect teams, that have sinergies finely tuned. But big corporations don’t care about that - people are just resources to them. And gradually everything comes crumbling down from there.
Probably some development time was going into preparing the first seasons and I think it was looking good on a calendar - QA Team probably raised their voice but was ignored … at least that’s my corporate experience
It's dead. I guarantee they are just going to wait for 6 months maybe a year and then kill it. There is no way they are spending more money on this loser into fiscal 2025. It makes no sense
@@Evanz111 pretty sure your opening statement is the key "alforithmic", im not sure what our host is aiming for? but he doesnt seem to cuss very much nor go on epic rants. if he gets put in adult only mode cause he has said sui___ too much it would forever damage his channel. since the adpocalypse a few years ago, you get selected for age groups before the ads get sent to you, if your channel is known as nonkidfriendly, you lose all those potential ads... at least thats how i think it works?
The subreddit for this game is delusional. I spend all my free time hating on every post I can there trying to convert people to helldivers 2 and the finals
We dont need your hatred, you donald blump support. You are the type that wants affordable gas and groceries because you are not supporting the marginalized people coming into america
I know Steam is probably not as big as console for a game like this, but a 24-hour peak of 522 players is *not good* on any platform for a $70 game. I'm surprised they didn't scrap the whole season thing already.
so... once again. a normal strength character has melee attacks and can knock alien super soldiers off buildings with a fucking umbrella.... dear god these devs suck. un fucking believable, did NO ONE understand why we hated the first sui squad movie?
I mean, it is free content, but Joker should've been way better than this. I do think it is dumb that they are reusing boss fights though. Hopefully they will update it correctly soon. If not they will be in the same boat as marvels avengers.
Lol man this is the truth. WB has some of the most iconic brands under its belt and they've bumbled just about all of them except for Harry Potter.... which I'm sure the next Hogwarts Legacy will be some half assed live service game too
@amirsteez05 Don't worry. I'm likely going to be the same. I have all the Arkham games. I don't need to buy Tssktjl Also what I said came from the wise man himself Barry Allen from Twitter while speaking to Madvocate😊
@@IsaacChoo88they could try but they can barely get a couple dozen people to play it. It needs to be free for people to come back cause people who leave are already unhappy
Poor take; the game is broken and ppl can’t play online as you yourself said… how do they deserve credit for the free dlc when they already scammed ppl 70 dollars for a broken game makes no sense
Is anyone actually still playing. The worse thing about this absolute train crash of a game, is that good people will actually lose their jobs over the catastrophic failure of this game!!!!!
He wasn't. You can do very cool things with the concept. But you need good writers, and I doubt there are even actual writers involved in Marvel and DC currently. This game? Who thought the Justice league heroes taken out by mostly street level villains was an idea that would appeal to most people? Even before they did things like trying to give HQ moral standing above Batman.
Hey Luke because of you I bought Helldivers 2 for £34.99 instead of Suicide Squad for £69.99 - so really can't thank you enough as play SSKTJL would've left a bad taste in my mouth for 2024
After the base game tanked in launch, I'm betting that Rocksteady / WB pulled resources from this game to work on some new quick project to re-coup costs, which means development for S1 would slow down and get delayed. So, 2 months for some reskinned gear, bosses and zones along with one new character seems logical for that amount of time. Had the game been a smash hit at launch maybe there would be something more substantial here.
The way you picture Joker is post-90s Joker. Prior to that he was a very silly character, which is even acknowledged in comics as a literal different Joker
It’s almost like they mistakenly thought the success and the longevity of DC Universe Online meant they were supposed to make this game. I can’t think of any other reason why they would keep pushing this so hard. The game is fun, but gosh..
No you are not being to harsh the game is the epitome of everything wrong with the industry and it deserve all apathy coming it's way. They need to just cut their losses, the game is dead. Only 500 concurrent players max at any time. On pc the game sold just over a 100,000 in sales which is pathetic. This should be a wake-up call to the imdustry but of course they're too greedy to respond appropriately!
Who in their right mind would describe the Joker as insecure??? I'm so sick of all these garbage millenial writers who have absolutely zero talent that come out of liberal arts school high off of smoke getting blown up their ass for 2 to 4 years with their professors not giving them any harsh reality checks and criticism and then getting hired to write for crap they have zero understanding of. Absolutely so sick of it.
to be totally honest! this isn't lazy! Its just that those of us who didn't end up making game, like my self, may have been put off by the industry, they really want ( the industry ) to dictate your creative direction in many of these software house's. I was review by a producer in the uk, an he, at the time told me to stop doing two much si-fi art, and do more copying that we all know, because I was artist animator? And a couple of years later, si-fi games were the thing. they have no idea what is really trending, that's why if live service is big with even one game, they just on it Because they all copy, and the creative flair has been removed by greedy share holders and office goons. 🤔
I play FF14 a lot...but at least they actually add things that keep people playing. This game? They add one new person but reskinned everything else. And Yes, FF14 does that too, but again, there is so much more added to keep you engaged.
How some people don't find this downright insulting is a marvel. They are literally boxing up the same assets with different textures and giving it back to you as an update. And yeah, it damn sure better be free cuz I wish they would try to charge me to play the same boss fight I already beat but now Superman is purple and has a voice filter and the enemies are green now. Even taking away the narrative aspect, this just is not a good live service game. They're falling into the exact same pits avengers did and doing it in record time. Most, I think will pop in, play joker for a few hours, realize how little else there is besides him and check right back out.
No! They don’t, “deserve credit,” for giving the players a free character! We are permanently left with the insurmountable problem of the fact that even live service fans DID NOT WANT this to be a live service game! Rocksteady just would not LISTEN to their fans and they can’t get over that. A free turd is still a turd.
@@heathclips4066 : IKR? No wonder the lead developers left when they saw the writing on the wall. Imagine working as a dev at Rockstar and being told, halfway through development of GTA 6, that management have decided to make it a live service game with no single player campaign. So, ditch all the work that can’t be worked into a live service model and forget about all those bound to be award winning characters and story arcs you all crunched to realise, making ground breaking graphics that bring the epic tale to life. “Coz’ we just want da MONEY!” That’s pretty much the atmosphere in most studios these days, but especially Rocksteady, from the reports I’ve read.
Yes I do think you are by 26th March 2024 standards being stingy, I'd rather wait 2 months for this than 6 months for a single map comprised nearly entirely of the same battlefield 2 bad company b flag house by DICE :/
I really think battlefront 2 should be the archetype for successfully transforming the trajectory of a game. Definitely not perfect but from anakin to clone wars content they really managed to slowly change perception of the game
They are literally going to have to make like 2 or 3 new factions, a whole bunch of new missions types, and loads of other kind of content (like raids, horde mode, environmental changes/levelolution, etc etc) for me to even try the game.
I think people are also less inclined to make some stupid preorder these days. After fiasco nr 97 I reckon people are a bit more inclined to lean back, let the reviews come in and then decide. Finally. And on that note....who the hell would even buy the battlepass of this game? What made anyone think after playing this "Oh man, I need the DLC for this on a preorder gamble now?!!!??!?!"
Still waiting on 2 things.
1) Offline mode
2) Announcement of the servers shutting down thus massive Steam discount similar to what happened with Marvels Avengers.
wgt are you waiting for that? gonna buy it and play it then?
yea ill play it essentially at a cheaper price with all the available content for a fraction of the cost. @@davidnonya7359
@jrrr9219 The devs aIready said that a offIine update is coming Iater in the year.
i do recall seeing a tweet on the official page stating they were working on an offline mode, but that was also a few weeks ago.@jrrr9219
@jrrr9219Imagine buying a triple A game for it to be unavailable to play one year later.
This Joker might actually be worse than Leto Joker and that's just sad....
That's quite the achievement.
In b4 the 1000 IQ comment saying: "bUt iTs a vIdEoGamE sO U cAn'T cOmPaRE tHeM"
Well he's gay in the game
"i perfer jared leto"
Ikr XD
I find it hilariously bad that the cosmetics for suicide squad is literally armor pieces of the justice league. Like what a joke to be playing as some side villains dressed up as superheroes.
And then you have a reverse flash melee item instead of reverse flash himself. 🤦🏻♂️
Yup. It's Rocksteady's killing joke....
I mean that’s the joke lol
@@makisbizarreadventure4669You get good jokes. Then you get retarded ones...
@@fatmanjstyle5306how cool would it be to play as actual villains like reverse flash in this game🤦♂️
seeing it 40% off on the playstation store made me chuckle a bit
And the game is still unplayable on Playstation
@rebellious_red7123 huh how ? I can play everyday if I wanted to
@@rebellious_red7123 skill issue mine works fantastic
@@Tybear-qz4bx because reports have shown that players have been locked out of logging into the actual game, and this hasn't been fixed for owners of the deluxe edition
Joker traversing with an UMBRELLA looks like a combo of Mary Poppins and Pennywise
That’s actually very on point for Joker
An umbrella is just synonymous with penguin imo
I'm Mary Poppins, Y'all! 🤠
someone said he would be a great batman who laughs character and now I can't stop thinking about it
the game is so cringe and childish
I love how they're including the reskinned Braniac boss fights in the road map as if that's a selling point for the season updates. If the only new boss encounters they're going to provide are copies of what players have already experienced, I don't see how that appeals to anyone looking for a new live-service shooter to commit to.
It like Avengers when they reused Taskmaster and Abomination over and over.
i think the idea was to have the new boss of every season be a new DC hero turned evil brainiac clone, and it gives them 3-5 months to make it "good"... except the entire dev team doesnt know what "good" is and the game is seriously failing already and are probably being rushed to produce any content
@@vissermatt1058I wouldn't blame the devs tho. This seems like executives trying to milk as much money as they can.
@@dangelocake2635 is it though? how much of it now is just going to be "the executives"? they took 6 years to make this, and 2 months to release this "roadmap". some of that is definitely execs, but devs incompetency are not excused just because the low hanging fruit of a scapegoat exec is there. the story was dogshit, the boss fights boring and the overall gameplay pretty jank. those are not the fault of executives.
If you have to end up fighting brainiac 12 times in the end does that mean we have to fight the flash version then green lantern, batman then superman versions 4 times each. Its ridiculous unless they somehow include versions like wonder woman, aquaman, green arrow and martian manhunter versions but i seriously doubt they are clever enough to think about doing that to bring some variety to the game so your not doing the same 💩 for another 50 hours that youve already spend 100 hours doing
I love the fact that the main drive of this update is a character that plays almost exactly like the other 4 characters but he moves around in a different way. What a joke of gameplay design
Hmm... an evil game written and edited by evil people for evil purposes filled to the brim with scummy, predatory business practices. What's not to love? I rejoice at this product failing so hard.
This is why it will fail. Even if people like it, it is such a hated game who are you going to play with? Who is talking about it? No one cares if you did something cool in Ss.
Indeed, it’s the absolute pinnacle of corporativism. The sad thing is that it’s not the executives, or the PMs, or the POs, or the Sweet Baby Inc folk that are going to see their jobs on the line, No, it will be the developers, designers, artists.. whose jobs are already badly paid, despite them being the ones that actually produce a game. Really sad the state of AAA game development currently.
Ah yes Batbloke's most notorious villain, The Jester.
I'm betting it'll be Mrs. Freeze, but from a different dimension where Nora turned into the villain rather than Victor 😂😂😂
it's Victoria Fries and it makes sense for it to not be Victor to be fair
nuh uh thats owlmans villain silly
I wanna downvote this comment so bad just because Ik your right 😭
If this game where to continue we’d probably only ever see Batman’s rogues and no one else
When I played Marvel's Avengers, I could at least counting on heroes playing differently to each other so the monthsof waiting wasn't a complete loss. But in a game where everyone shoots the same guns, what's really different about the characters? What are players really looking forward to?
Borderlands released in 2009 and understood that in a game where everyone uses the same guns, you need to make the characters unique. Welcome to 2024 where gaming has regressed just like the rest of the world.
@@EntrepedBLs took a very basic idea and actually thought it through. Guns with unique and interesting characters. WB said guns and make these characters as lame as possible
They should have released an alternate version of penguin. Thus the umbrella would make sense
Should’ve been Penguin not Joker with umbrella.
For real. Should've gave Joker balloons and as you get lower they start popping.
@@punchykarma6685or he uses grenades to tranverse, ragdolls to the intended location.
Facts!
penguins built like a bolder bruz nothing he can do
@@heathclips4066they could’ve done an alternate Penguin though; one who’s a bit younger and more in shape and I don’t think anyone would’ve really batted an eye.
Ive always hated the cop out that its always the managers or investors fault. Its perfectly reasonable for it to also be the fault of incompetent devs. I think alot of times it can be the managers fault but people just assume its the managers and let the actual workers off the hook. Then we see those same workers go to another company or even make their own and wow shocker the game isnt that great
Palia is a recent example it was ex blizzard and riot devs who wanted to make a nice mmo about crafting and gathering. And after several years of seasoned developers working on this project we got a single player game with enough content to last you about a week.
Look at bungie, bungie tricked people into thinking activision was the problem, activision exited the contract and then sony bought them. Now we see bungie was always the problem.
The thing about this joker is that for all the multiverse stuff they really were lazy when it came to the joker. Like we have seen multiple versions of a joker in comics and animated movies. They could have made the Jester or Chuckles the clown, something that would have involved some creativity besides a cheap knock off Joker. And that literally applies to the whole game, there isn't much thought or creativity.
Smells like a +9 player count boost on March 28
People say this as a joke all the time but I genuinely think in this case it might be true lol.
Can't wait until they add Katana and then not let you use her Katana because this is a derivative shooter that renders deadshot redundant by giving everyone his specialty
Can’t wait until they add katana, and then she looks like a man
Be even worse when mr freeze and killer croc dlc come out instead of using his freeze gun or eating people as croc....no you get to use a crappy shotgun instead 🤦♂️
Can’t wait until they add katana, and then she looks like a man
@@andypotter6886what are you on about? everyone knows killer croc is famous for his dual wielded uzis😂.
@@patrickwillis13 oh yeah i forgot about that. How daft do i look now 🤦♂️🤣
Bruh I’ll never complain about cod updates ever again after seeing this lmao 😂
Nah cod always worth complaining about in every way 😂😂
Cod is every year the same cash grab its not worth any cent @@Im_helpless
I've been trained by this industry to A) never preorder a game, and B) never pay full price for a game. This is the only way to avoid being scammed.
Yup. I rarely buy full price games anymore. Sick and tired of not just bad games, but games that need years of patches to finally be in a state they should have been in at release. Sadly, the industry has trained just as many people to eat s*** and be thankful for it.
There were only a *50* player difference between Suicide Squad and Gotham Knight. A game that flopped two YEARS ago is keeping pace with a two MONTH old game.
It sucks cause WB ain’t gonna slow down on the live service elements
@CRAZYMUGMAN dune will carry them for a few years but after that yeah it’s pretty uncertain
@@acev3521 Dune is carryng the movies division, i am not sure it can carry the games too (Does WB even has the rights of Dune games?) Also Dune 3 will take a while to come out
The 500 people playing the game, it is going to be so excited 😂
So for Scarecrow, instead of making smoke bombs that can make your enemies scream
They made an Scarecrow themed LMG
SMH if you don't play the game please don't comment.
@@Tybear-qz4bx You did? Damn, i guess you have no taste lol
@@Tybear-qz4bx oh, pi$$ off with that bs.
One does not have to play the damn game to aim critique towards it.
Especially not when talking about design.
@biikuajet sure they do. If you don't play it then you have no right to critique anything.
@@ivancerecer5758 you mean I have money to enjoy a game I like
Simple answer is No it won’t
They don't deserve praise. The game is $70 (if not more) and has a cosmetic shop. The LEAST they can do is provide free updates.
it got delayed a year which means a year ago it was even more of a mess 😅
haha embarrassing
Yes I honestly wish Starfield halo infinite and this wasn’t delayed at least it would’ve been funnier.
A twink, emo Joker complementing reskinned boss fights from the base game.
You can't half tell all the talent left the studio.
"hey guys look how deep our game is😢😢 this joker is very insecure 😡😡, it's not fair you guys everyone's playing helldivers please buy our colour pack for Harley Quinn's annoying ass😩"
Well, I'm sure all 20 of the people playing this game will appreciate the free characters.
We'll have a launch party since all of us fit comfortably into a medium sized room
The game "that shall not be named" will never see the inside of any one of my SSD.
I do not even want it for free.
I don’t think I need a joker who’s trying to “figure himself out”
This could be the first and last season update, depending how reception of seas1 goes!
Hopefully the last. I rarely hope for games to fail but this is a special case 😂
I believe in some universal concepts
Snow is cold
The earth rotates around the sun
Luke Stephens will make a new "sceptic" video about Suicide Squad as soon as there is any news about it
It’s because it gets lots of views as it’s a controversial topic
@@OneDarkKnightAs well as viewers want to see him talk about it
What about "skeptic" being spelled with a "k"?
That's at the very least an English concept, which you were attempting to speak here
Considering the atmosphere around this game it wouldn't surprise me that they made this Joker the way he is so Harley never feels threatened by him. She'll constantly be putting him down and reminding him how "Mr. J" has no power over her and nobody would believe it if this was the Arkham verse Joker. Arkhamverse Joker was never brawny but he was always intimidating. That Joker was someone you'd feel would gleefully put this Harley down in a second if she got uppity with him. So the new Joker has to be much less threatening to make what I believe will be a more boss chick Harley/Joker interaction work.
I have never seen a game that hates its source material more than this game. It’s like they actively try to challenge themselves to go for the most stupid, disrespectful and ignorant approach possible in regards to character design and behaviour.
that is not the JOKER that is JONKLER with mary poplins abilities
... because the joker famously uses an umbrella. Not the penguin.
Well yeah.. at harley doesn't use. Abatclaw, boomerang doesn't use a speed force gauntlet and deadshot doesn't use a jetpack.....
They spilled the beans about the season 1 playable character like a month or 2 before release. Im going to assume they did it because their confidence about the game selling was undoubtedly low. Thats not the Joker, thats just Joe.
As long as they dont add melee combat this game can die out idgaf. They ruined Batman, they ruined Harley and now they ruin Joker. Oh and then theres Mr Freeze genderswapped to a lesbian Mrs Freeze as 2nd DLC, then we get Deadshots daughter thats a teenage arms dealer wannabe criminal type literally NOBODY asked for and lastly Deathstroke to keep our attention until Season 4 and i dont really want to imagine what they gonna do to that poor guy in the end
Thank the Gods Below, I smelled this miles away and kept away. At least they showed what kind of game this was from the beginning. I'm thankful for that. I was a huge fan of the last game, and this was totally not the same.
6:38 mn there is 13 brainiacs soo does that mean we are going to repeat the base game boss fights 13 whole times😭
I mean. Not like it's going to make it to all 13.
@@vortex_1336hahahaha you’re right
People say that this is a Rocksteady game, but correct me if I'm wrong but haven't the people who made the Arkham trilogy already moved elsewhere?
So the people who made Suicide Squad are completely different people and they're just using the Rocksteady -name for their own game?
I'm calling it now rocksteady is gonna pull a bungie and make the entire game free to play soon
Joker masking insecurities is all I needed to hear to never play this game.
I think I'll still wait for a 90% discount and all the seasonal updates before I even think about buying this
I’m praying they fold and finally put it on Gamepass
I was burned out on this game in less than a week. Pretty sad. I won’t even bother to go back to the game to try this season.
It could be Nora Freiz. His sick wife. In the Harley Quinn show he dies and she comes back. So I can see them doing that.
Wait wait wait, the thing you like about the joker is using the umbrella?
Isn’t the umbrella the penguins thing, not the joker?
Do these people even DC?
So what? Harley doesn't use a batclaw, deadshot doesn't use a jet pack and boomerang doesn't use a speed force gauntlet. But because of the plot and story they do...
I care more about the gameplay than how comic accurate it is
@@willbaker6532 well yes it would be nice to play a game without it crashing aswell
This is why I believe we should stop following game dev companies like they were the small close knit culture studios of the past. Just because you are buying a game from Rockstar or DICE doesn’t mean you are getting a game developed by the same people that delivered Red Dead Redemption 2 or Battlefield 3 or even the original Mirror’s Edge.
Not only most of the original developers and artists, designers, etc may have left in the meanwhile, but also the success brought in new investors and with them the incessant need for constant abrupt artificial growth that leads to very quick and large scale hiring processes - that consequently affect and deeply change the internal culture and the fine tuned creative and motivational alignment that those original teams had, and that maximised the quality of their output.
Ed Catmull, one of the founders of Pixar, talks about this importance of making sure the people are put together in ways that make sense to their profiles in his Creativity, Inc book. It is a lot of work and takes a lot of time to find the perfect teams, that have sinergies finely tuned. But big corporations don’t care about that - people are just resources to them. And gradually everything comes crumbling down from there.
Probably some development time was going into preparing the first seasons and I think it was looking good on a calendar - QA Team probably raised their voice but was ignored … at least that’s my corporate experience
After the sweet baby Inc drama there's no way SS ever gets better
It's dead. I guarantee they are just going to wait for 6 months maybe a year and then kill it. There is no way they are spending more money on this loser into fiscal 2025. It makes no sense
“Game shall not be named for algorithmic reasons” - what is this reverse psychology play? 😂
Community guidelines squad
sui___ is considered a negative amplifying word on most websites
I’ve not seen a single reviewer of the game censor the name of the game and all of those videos are still up and monetised?
@@Evanz111 pretty sure your opening statement is the key "alforithmic", im not sure what our host is aiming for? but he doesnt seem to cuss very much nor go on epic rants. if he gets put in adult only mode cause he has said sui___ too much it would forever damage his channel. since the adpocalypse a few years ago, you get selected for age groups before the ads get sent to you, if your channel is known as nonkidfriendly, you lose all those potential ads... at least thats how i think it works?
Thats not emo joker.
Thats teen angst joker.
no its teen chuckler
The subreddit for this game is delusional. I spend all my free time hating on every post I can there trying to convert people to helldivers 2 and the finals
o7 to the haters
How…. Democratic of you 😏
Thats kinda sad.. Maybe go outside a little
@zankrajnc3312 coming from some random nobody who's statistically most likely a virgin, doesn't hurt a lot bud. I'll live 👍
We dont need your hatred, you donald blump support. You are the type that wants affordable gas and groceries because you are not supporting the marginalized people coming into america
I know Steam is probably not as big as console for a game like this, but a 24-hour peak of 522 players is *not good* on any platform for a $70 game. I'm surprised they didn't scrap the whole season thing already.
so... once again. a normal strength character has melee attacks and can knock alien super soldiers off buildings with a fucking umbrella....
dear god these devs suck. un fucking believable, did NO ONE understand why we hated the first sui squad movie?
I mean, it is free content, but Joker should've been way better than this. I do think it is dumb that they are reusing boss fights though. Hopefully they will update it correctly soon. If not they will be in the same boat as marvels avengers.
This game is as good as dead. Only surprising thing is that the folks at Rocksteady still have jobs.
They're seriously continuing with the Brainiac fights just being recycled Justice League fights? Come on man, they're not even trying.
I totally forgot this game was a thing after about 3 weeks lol
Underwhelming as expected from the same publisher that hates making entertainment nowadays
Lol man this is the truth. WB has some of the most iconic brands under its belt and they've bumbled just about all of them except for Harry Potter.... which I'm sure the next Hogwarts Legacy will be some half assed live service game too
The Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League is a Masterpiece. It deserves a CW Live Action Show
Atleast the CW dc shows were watchable and some seasons of some shows great. I'm probably never gonna play this game.
@amirsteez05 Don't worry. I'm likely going to be the same. I have all the Arkham games. I don't need to buy Tssktjl
Also what I said came from the wise man himself Barry Allen from Twitter while speaking to Madvocate😊
Only way I'm even considering playing this game is if I get it for free. Even then, it would be a big "maybe".
"ALL THIS IS FREE, THEY DESERVE CREDIT FOR THAT". AHAHAHAHAHA. THE GAME IS 70 FUCKING DOLLARS. C'MON LUKE, REALLY?
Or it could be another 65dollars like D4
are you phycopath?
He always looks what the majority says, then repeats it...
@@IsaacChoo88they could try but they can barely get a couple dozen people to play it. It needs to be free for people to come back cause people who leave are already unhappy
Poor take; the game is broken and ppl can’t play online as you yourself said… how do they deserve credit for the free dlc when they already scammed ppl 70 dollars for a broken game makes no sense
Bro how are they gonna sell anything when I just checked and they have 600 steam players like what
Is anyone actually still playing. The worse thing about this absolute train crash of a game, is that good people will actually lose their jobs over the catastrophic failure of this game!!!!!
Perhaps Critical Drinker was right about the curse of the multiverse.and how it destroyed Marvel's and DC's writing.
He wasn't. You can do very cool things with the concept. But you need good writers, and I doubt there are even actual writers involved in Marvel and DC currently.
This game? Who thought the Justice league heroes taken out by mostly street level villains was an idea that would appeal to most people? Even before they did things like trying to give HQ moral standing above Batman.
I’m so excited for the new Warbond! Roll on vehicles baby!!
Hey Luke because of you I bought Helldivers 2 for £34.99 instead of Suicide Squad for £69.99 - so really can't thank you enough as play SSKTJL would've left a bad taste in my mouth for 2024
its not an awesome update, you are still paying a lot for almost nothing and on top of that its still disrespectful to everyone.
This update is exactly what I expected: garbage. WB is looking for a way to cut its losses and run without looking defeated.
Joker is a young Nicolas Cage 😮
After the base game tanked in launch, I'm betting that Rocksteady / WB pulled resources from this game to work on some new quick project to re-coup costs, which means development for S1 would slow down and get delayed. So, 2 months for some reskinned gear, bosses and zones along with one new character seems logical for that amount of time. Had the game been a smash hit at launch maybe there would be something more substantial here.
They'd already announced the S1 content before launch
The steam version just dropped below 100 concurrent players today because player numbers aren't shown right now on steam
The only thing to hope for with the "new " boss fights is that they somehow make it more involved, especially superman, that was just terrible.
Short answer will it be enough? No this game will get shutdown before the year ends.
Someone else pointed this out, but this joker is definitely gonna be dogged by Harley. The writing team is definitely cooking up some A1 dialogue
The way you picture Joker is post-90s Joker. Prior to that he was a very silly character, which is even acknowledged in comics as a literal different Joker
Even then it's not what they intend with this character
It’s almost like they mistakenly thought the success and the longevity of DC Universe Online meant they were supposed to make this game. I can’t think of any other reason why they would keep pushing this so hard. The game is fun, but gosh..
Imagine when Harleyquin and Joker meet up - hours and hours and hours of FUN dialouge between them written for a modern audience!
The Joker with the angst of a teenage boy... Erm, sure...
No you are not being to harsh the game is the epitome of everything wrong with the industry and it deserve all apathy coming it's way. They need to just cut their losses, the game is dead. Only 500 concurrent players max at any time. On pc the game sold just over a 100,000 in sales which is pathetic. This should be a wake-up call to the imdustry but of course they're too greedy to respond appropriately!
Who in their right mind would describe the Joker as insecure??? I'm so sick of all these garbage millenial writers who have absolutely zero talent that come out of liberal arts school high off of smoke getting blown up their ass for 2 to 4 years with their professors not giving them any harsh reality checks and criticism and then getting hired to write for crap they have zero understanding of. Absolutely so sick of it.
The problem is that theres nothing to play for. Loot is bad and alternate costumes are meh.
So what happens to a game when the live service ends? Can you still play the game?
to be totally honest! this isn't lazy! Its just that those of us who didn't end up making game, like my self, may have been put off
by the industry, they really want ( the industry ) to dictate your creative direction in many of these software house's.
I was review by a producer in the uk, an he, at the time told me to stop doing two much si-fi art, and do more copying
that we all know, because I was artist animator? And a couple of years later, si-fi games were the thing.
they have no idea what is really trending, that's why if live service is big with even one game, they just on it
Because they all copy, and the creative flair has been removed by greedy share holders and office goons. 🤔
Joker: "I HaTe ThIs ToWn"
I play FF14 a lot...but at least they actually add things that keep people playing. This game? They add one new person but reskinned everything else. And Yes, FF14 does that too, but again, there is so much more added to keep you engaged.
How some people don't find this downright insulting is a marvel. They are literally boxing up the same assets with different textures and giving it back to you as an update. And yeah, it damn sure better be free cuz I wish they would try to charge me to play the same boss fight I already beat but now Superman is purple and has a voice filter and the enemies are green now. Even taking away the narrative aspect, this just is not a good live service game. They're falling into the exact same pits avengers did and doing it in record time. Most, I think will pop in, play joker for a few hours, realize how little else there is besides him and check right back out.
No! They don’t, “deserve credit,” for giving the players a free character! We are permanently left with the insurmountable problem of the fact that even live service fans DID NOT WANT this to be a live service game! Rocksteady just would not LISTEN to their fans and they can’t get over that. A free turd is still a turd.
WB forcing the great rocksteady to do this shit
@@heathclips4066 : IKR? No wonder the lead developers left when they saw the writing on the wall. Imagine working as a dev at Rockstar and being told, halfway through development of GTA 6, that management have decided to make it a live service game with no single player campaign. So, ditch all the work that can’t be worked into a live service model and forget about all those bound to be award winning characters and story arcs you all crunched to realise, making ground breaking graphics that bring the epic tale to life. “Coz’ we just want da MONEY!” That’s pretty much the atmosphere in most studios these days, but especially Rocksteady, from the reports I’ve read.
I wish we could see the writers for Arkham knight vs suicide squad, something tells me they’re not the same
Knight's writing wasn't great either tbh. It was the graphics & gameplay that was great
Yes I do think you are by 26th March 2024 standards being stingy, I'd rather wait 2 months for this than 6 months for a single map comprised nearly entirely of the same battlefield 2 bad company b flag house by DICE :/
I really think battlefront 2 should be the archetype for successfully transforming the trajectory of a game. Definitely not perfect but from anakin to clone wars content they really managed to slowly change perception of the game
They are literally going to have to make like 2 or 3 new factions, a whole bunch of new missions types, and loads of other kind of content (like raids, horde mode, environmental changes/levelolution, etc etc) for me to even try the game.
So are all the bosses going to play the same?
Seeing how they did these characters. Im not optimistic about the future characters. We have 3 great joker VAs and they ignored all of em.
No the Giggler cannot save Suicide Squad
Underwhelming is a step up from what the base game offers. I'm betting on a year tops before WB puts this thing out of its misery.
I think people are also less inclined to make some stupid preorder these days.
After fiasco nr 97 I reckon people are a bit more inclined to lean back, let the reviews come in and then decide. Finally.
And on that note....who the hell would even buy the battlepass of this game? What made anyone think after playing this "Oh man, I need the DLC for this on a preorder gamble now?!!!??!?!"
One thing is for certain, whether he be The Giggler, The Twinkler or The Diddler he sure ain't The Joker baby.