I wonder if other people shooting through it with bows works too or if other people with the exotic can all use the ring etc. Could be insane for an entire fire team to just be sending out mass arrows
@@eliaspanayi3465 that genuinely would be such a cool function to buff other bows shot thru the ring. Le monarch en mass poison arrows flying at targets🤣 missed opportunity there
For those wondering about the catalyst, it reduces draw and re-nocking time when firing arrows through the ring, bringing it's ROF up to around the same as Hush.
As someone who nearly exclusively uses bows, I am very happy with the last two bows we’ve gotten, Ticcu’s and Hierarchy. Unique styles that really make use of the unique archetype. Gives me hope for what kind of catalyst they’ll eventually give Wish Ender.
No kidding, especially considering there's at least some overlap here between Hierarchy and Ticuus. Make it stasis and make those explosive arrows apply slow stacks or even just straight up freeze. Still, this looks like a really interesting and fun exotic. Great job to the team who designed this thing
Looks like a great replacement for Ticcus in hard content. Very curious if the ring interacts with other Hierarchies or other bows. Ticcu often became something we ran two of, so this could be very appealing with a few bows on a team plus Rally Barricades
Ticcus did take awhile for the buildup of causality stacks, and while this may have a different form of build up my first thought was multiple users as well
It only interacts with other HoNs and not just any bow unfortunately. Also, you cant have multiple people set up rings and have an arrow pass through multiple rings.
One the best exotic designs I've seen in a while. Feels and looks very unique, everything to the sound design, especially the VFX, the weapon design. Well done!!
It will synergize great with rally barricade. With bastion you get a continuously recharging void overshield by staying behind the barricade and you get all the buffs from the barricade itself, like -50% flinch
@@raccoonwithasword I feel this I've run duality a bunch on all three characters and I still don't have heart shadow but I took my stepdad through it and on his first completion ever he got it. The rng gods hate me
As much as I'm not enjoying the state of the game lately, I really appreciate how great this exotic is. Weapon design, VFX, exotic perk/behaviour. How viable it might be is another thing, but it looks fun.
Now imagine this with pre nerf warmind cells... That aside, it looks fun, and it introduces something new into the game. Even if it turns out its not good, It looks like im gonna be using it often, if I ever get it
I honestly think ticuus is better, you don’t need to get kills to activate tracking, comes with 3 arrows, and it does aoe explosive damage on stuff you somehow don’t kill. With this one you need 5 kills to activate the ring, and then you have to stand still and fire arrows through the ring to get better damage and more arrows. It’s still really really cool and it looks even better.
There's just too much overlap with Ticuus, not sure what the thought was. Could've easily made it stand out by making it stasis and giving it some kind of slow/freeze capability. Would've been an instant classic
So now I wanna know, do the explosive arrows cause Ignitions and Scorches? Because if so, I'll definitely use those now with my solar builds Edit: it does not...that makes me sad. Oh well, still going to get the bow. Looks cool and it's pretty strong!
A dope catalyst (that admittedly would be busted op) would be allowing any bow to shoot through the guidance ring and gain tracking. Like a bow version of gjallarhorn
I got the Bow with catalyst. Catalyst perk: Deploying a Guidance Ring or striking a target with a seeking projectile improves draw time and reload speed for a moderate duration.
I can already see this bow being paired well with Starfire Protocol. Toss down a rift, throw up a ring, rain fire on your enemies from a safe distance, then recast your rift, rinse and repeat until all your enemies are dead
@@jockeolzzon1222 Why? With the bow, it forces you to stand still while you shoot through that ring. So why not throw down an empowered rift,.make your shots even stronger, and get something back for using the bow normally? Just common sense.
So gonna use this with Citans on my titan. It’s like they were born for each other. Plus this bow matches my fashion, which is arguably the most important part.
This feels like something great for GMs and higher-end solo content specially since you gotta keep your distance and can just get a damage buff from precision hits.
Maybe the catalyst enlarges the circle ⭕️ or enables you to build up to the guidance ring faster. Maybe just flat out stats and a quicker build up to explosive dmg with a higher dmg cap. This bow is cool though no doubt.
I do wonder if the projectiles are released even without full charge. If so you could place a ring and then lob arrow after arrow to create a spam of seeking projectiles.
I really hope they add a special ammo crossbow someday. It'd be something like No Land Beyond. The drawback is a long reload that can't be reloaded by Dodge/Exotic armor/mods
@kriegcore LFRs are a multi-mag charge-up, mid-long-range weapon. A crossbow would be a single-shot close-to-mid-range weapon with iron sights. The difference would be quite noticeable.
I feel this. Also not entirely happy (despite the triumphs increasing drop rate) since I just passed 50 oryx runs or so and still don’t have ToM. I’m honestly sick of the rng exotics, but it is what it is.
Not entirely Ticcu has a boss damage penalty of like 50% this one doesn't seem to have a penalty so it keeps the high damage (At least from what I've seen)
this is nuts you could drop it around cover, then fire into it and it’ll redirect shots around cover and into enemies. any info on its effectiveness and damage against guardians?
Looks cool but I’m not a fan of weapons that restrict my play style. I like to play fast paced with an smg/nade launcher. The thought of being limited to a small ring to shoot through isn’t appealing to me
I've been testing this too, pitty the pvp buff isn't double as well but makes sense as this would one shot otherwise. I've topped out at 153 for a crit and 2 15s from the tracking arrows for a grant total of 193. Any luck getting better damage Ehroar? (without any buffs , just raw dmg)
Looks super interesting but Im kind of concerned with the amount of set up it needs to start doing anything special. As opposed to le monarque which does its special thing instantly, trinity ghoul which does its thing after any arc kill and can infinitely chain, and tiicu's which only needs two shots total to get to its effect. It seems like it will be great once it gets the ring going just not sure how viable that will be for a lot of end game stuff
In my own testing, guardians count as 2 charges, kill or headshot, and 4 for a headshot kill. Also max range seeker arrows don’t one shot but do get very close.
explosive solar bow? could make a solar warmind cell build out of it... but the Ikalos SG may do that job batter, including with it's inharent trait as a Ikalos SG. (unless teh catalyst allows warmind cell generation. A man can hope).
It says arrows fired through, it doesn’t specify that it has to be from the user, is this like a gally but for bows? Could you test if fireteam members get the extra tracking arrows?
Everybody is talking about ticuus and how much this reminds them of it, i honestly am reminded of the javelins from the warmind dlc, and it’s honestly awful to see how much people say “weapon bad, it’s not exactly like ticuus” because this isn’t ticuus. It’s entirely separate, and is honestly more fun imo (not that i’ve used it), because it is so boring to use ticuus “constant rapid hipfire then full draw aiming shot” gameplay (again, imo), so it’s nice to just have those explosions in the first place without needing that tedious (and, imo, boring) cycle.
If the catalyst could do anything, it should increase the amount of projectiles released from the ring and should let those projectiles scorch
My guess is that it increases the size of the ring. Maybe even let's others with bows get the same effect (when shooting through the ring)
That’s legit what it does I believe. It just makes more projectiles
@@nullandvoid7524 No it doesn't lol, the catalyst improves draw time and reload after a seeker hits an enemy
@@names7278 Dang, I wish it was more unique to enhancing, like larger ring size...
@@kassaken6521it’s a massive draw time buff like hush. It’s really good
I wonder if other people shooting through it with bows works too or if other people with the exotic can all use the ring etc. Could be insane for an entire fire team to just be sending out mass arrows
only other HON's work
@@trkrownn that's a shame, imagine being able to make the ring and then let someone with the leviathan shoot through it with those aoe shock arrows
@@eliaspanayi3465 still hope for the catalyst
Our arrows will blot out the sun!!!
@@eliaspanayi3465 that genuinely would be such a cool function to buff other bows shot thru the ring. Le monarch en mass poison arrows flying at targets🤣 missed opportunity there
I think the biggest thing this has over ticcus is the ability to shoot from the hip and still having a full powered arrow.
pvp activated
It's the one thing it has over ticcus. Still not as good as it.
@@isaiahbridges7442 probably because we already have an exotic solar bow that has tracking capabilities, except ticcus takes no setup before hand.
@@snottytoe6957 ticcus suck on pvp this seems far better more weapons should be pvp focused
@@Kazuhira2249 No they should not be it should always be pve first then pvp
one of the most unique and gorgeous exotics in the game
yet it is useless
@@exesumm how is it useless.. it’s still a good bow in general. So quick to hate on it bc it doesn’t break the game
Idk about that
@@Law_001 ticuu is better
@@exesumm You dont have it
For those wondering about the catalyst, it reduces draw and re-nocking time when firing arrows through the ring, bringing it's ROF up to around the same as Hush.
The catalyst for it has potential to be so awesome
Javelin shot
What does catty do?
I really hope it's chain reaction. Would be a power house for ad clear!
@@ty_po03 amazing idea, would be sick
Chain Reaction or Incandescent would be awesome for catalyst.
The hardest looking bow I've ever seen 💯🔥
Facts!!
As someone who nearly exclusively uses bows, I am very happy with the last two bows we’ve gotten, Ticcu’s and Hierarchy. Unique styles that really make use of the unique archetype. Gives me hope for what kind of catalyst they’ll eventually give Wish Ender.
Just imagine the full fireteam making a ring each and it splits and makes 2 explosive arrows after passing through each ring 😮
I was really hoping it would be Stasis, so that we'd have a bow in each element.
This would have made it a better weapon imo
Lunalata is stasis
@@ifeeldeadinsideD2 exotic
No kidding, especially considering there's at least some overlap here between Hierarchy and Ticuus. Make it stasis and make those explosive arrows apply slow stacks or even just straight up freeze.
Still, this looks like a really interesting and fun exotic. Great job to the team who designed this thing
Same
Looks like a great replacement for Ticcus in hard content. Very curious if the ring interacts with other Hierarchies or other bows. Ticcu often became something we ran two of, so this could be very appealing with a few bows on a team plus Rally Barricades
Ticcus did take awhile for the buildup of causality stacks, and while this may have a different form of build up my first thought was multiple users as well
Ticuu’s could really use incandescent now to make up for its lack of raw damage
@@peterdubinsky5389 ??? It has really good damage, and Incandescent is an ad clear perk which is what it already excels at
It only interacts with other HoNs and not just any bow unfortunately. Also, you cant have multiple people set up rings and have an arrow pass through multiple rings.
@@TheBigSlugger Ya... But still. Having interaction with solar and being able to trigger ignitions would be dope.
One the best exotic designs I've seen in a while. Feels and looks very unique, everything to the sound design, especially the VFX, the weapon design. Well done!!
I love the concept and the bow itself looks really cool, I just hate having to play or be limited to being around a stationary ring
It will synergize great with rally barricade. With bastion you get a continuously recharging void overshield by staying behind the barricade and you get all the buffs from the barricade itself, like -50% flinch
@@johncarey1634 Thanks! That's great to know when I only play warlock and Hunter!
@@fyhonfernfield2232 then I guess it's time to start a titan too
@@fyhonfernfield2232 Stand in a Well
@@fyhonfernfield2232 I was unaware of this fact. My condolences on your unfortunate class selections.
I'm getting witherhoard vibes from how cool and unique this exotic is!
Seems like an exotic that is cool to think about but will mostly just collect dust in my vault unless there is a niech encounter that this caters to.
They should make an ornament for this bow called Dream Caster that that makes the guidance rings look like dream catchers.
Can't wait to run the dungeon 104 times without it dropping
The dungeon is pretty short though
dawg just do the increased drop challenges 💀
@@darkcrypter they mean nothing its still luck
@@darkcrypter bruh even with them done in duality it still took me more than 60 runs before I got heartshadow
@@raccoonwithasword I feel this I've run duality a bunch on all three characters and I still don't have heart shadow but I took my stepdad through it and on his first completion ever he got it. The rng gods hate me
As much as I'm not enjoying the state of the game lately, I really appreciate how great this exotic is. Weapon design, VFX, exotic perk/behaviour. How viable it might be is another thing, but it looks fun.
Now imagine this with pre nerf warmind cells...
That aside, it looks fun, and it introduces something new into the game. Even if it turns out its not good, It looks like im gonna be using it often, if I ever get it
I honestly think ticuus is better, you don’t need to get kills to activate tracking, comes with 3 arrows, and it does aoe explosive damage on stuff you somehow don’t kill. With this one you need 5 kills to activate the ring, and then you have to stand still and fire arrows through the ring to get better damage and more arrows. It’s still really really cool and it looks even better.
You can charge a ring with precision shots as well
There's just too much overlap with Ticuus, not sure what the thought was. Could've easily made it stand out by making it stasis and giving it some kind of slow/freeze capability. Would've been an instant classic
@@jerryballstein For real, it looks fun but like...Ticuu's already does basically the same. This is just another flavor of solar explosion.
So now I wanna know, do the explosive arrows cause Ignitions and Scorches? Because if so, I'll definitely use those now with my solar builds
Edit: it does not...that makes me sad. Oh well, still going to get the bow. Looks cool and it's pretty strong!
Maybe with aa catalyst
Naw
They don't
It can make warmind cells tho so there's that
Damn that is such a unique exotic
Sarcasm? It’s literally just Ticuu’s but with extra steps and no burn or explosion
@@matthewkress6161 im wondering why i would use this instead of ticus
@@mrxerxes7947 Weapon design factor, that's what I'd use it for
@@katallica6677 u understand life 🙏🏻
A dope catalyst (that admittedly would be busted op) would be allowing any bow to shoot through the guidance ring and gain tracking. Like a bow version of gjallarhorn
I like how ridiculous the exotics are this season. I love it, they’re so out there it’s unique
not really unique
I got the Bow with catalyst. Catalyst perk: Deploying a Guidance Ring or striking a target with a seeking projectile improves draw time and reload speed for a moderate duration.
Don’t care if it’s good, it looks intense af…love it 🤩
I can already see this bow being paired well with Starfire Protocol. Toss down a rift, throw up a ring, rain fire on your enemies from a safe distance, then recast your rift, rinse and repeat until all your enemies are dead
You want a 900rpm gun for starfire not a bow.
@@jockeolzzon1222 Why? With the bow, it forces you to stand still while you shoot through that ring. So why not throw down an empowered rift,.make your shots even stronger, and get something back for using the bow normally? Just common sense.
Such a unique Idea, I love this thing(can't wait to actually get it)
Bungie really got creative with the exotics this season and I like that.
I'm wondering if other players with regular bows can shoot through the same ring
FINALLY ANOTHER EXOTIC BOW
lol the video ending with you getting booted is the perfect end
Ticuus: "Look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of my power!""
For real 🤣🤣
So gonna use this with Citans on my titan. It’s like they were born for each other. Plus this bow matches my fashion, which is arguably the most important part.
Definitely fresh and definitely in need of more weapons/perks like this 👍
This feels like something great for GMs and higher-end solo content specially since you gotta keep your distance and can just get a damage buff from precision hits.
Bro make a repulsor brace void overshield build on the titan. Iv always loved your builds
This would’ve been so much cooler as a stasis bow in my opinion, we need a line Citicorp stasis bow too
I cannot wait to get my hands on this, the build potential and integration of this is so much.
This reminds me of the starlight river bow. I want it so bad lol.
So far it looks like Ticuu’s with extra steps
Thank you for not showing dungeon footage. I wanted to know what the bow does but haven’t had a chance to do the dungeon
This is such a cool mechanic; exotics like these are why I keep coming back to Destiny despite all of its problems
Maybe the catalyst enlarges the circle ⭕️ or enables you to build up to the guidance ring faster. Maybe just flat out stats and a quicker build up to explosive dmg with a higher dmg cap. This bow is cool though no doubt.
I do wonder if the projectiles are released even without full charge. If so you could place a ring and then lob arrow after arrow to create a spam of seeking projectiles.
I really hope they add a special ammo crossbow someday. It'd be something like No Land Beyond. The drawback is a long reload that can't be reloaded by Dodge/Exotic armor/mods
what do you think arbalest is........
@kriegcore LFRs are a multi-mag charge-up, mid-long-range weapon.
A crossbow would be a single-shot close-to-mid-range weapon with iron sights.
The difference would be quite noticeable.
@@Volend_ I'm being serious, it's even in the name. It's going to be the best you're going to get in terms of "crossbow"
What...you got it already? Good job!
Not his account
@@yeahthatstrue3157 ahhh...didn't watch it all coz I'd already seen Aztecross testing his
Got 2 of these on my first 2 attempts lol I’m usually the unlucky guy now I’ve used all my luck this season
As a bow main, a random rng drop with only 3 chances a week is a kick to the nuts for the only exotic I been excited for in a year.
I feel this. Also not entirely happy (despite the triumphs increasing drop rate) since I just passed 50 oryx runs or so and still don’t have ToM. I’m honestly sick of the rng exotics, but it is what it is.
Interesting weapon, but Ticcu's seems better? Auto aim plus huge explosion, plus great for big target damage when Causality Arrows are procced.
Not entirely Ticcu has a boss damage penalty of like 50% this one doesn't seem to have a penalty so it keeps the high damage (At least from what I've seen)
The bow also creates Warmind cells if you have the splash damage mod on.
I don't think you should have that splash mod on for it to trigger cells.
Should be just like the Seraph/Ikelos weapons.
this is nuts you could drop it around cover, then fire into it and it’ll redirect shots around cover and into enemies. any info on its effectiveness and damage against guardians?
cool design and sounds but why go through the trouble of setting up rings, when you just use Trinity Ghoul?
Looks cool but I’m not a fan of weapons that restrict my play style. I like to play fast paced with an smg/nade launcher. The thought of being limited to a small ring to shoot through isn’t appealing to me
The Catylist give Improved Draw and reload speed on kills with seeking projectiles or deploying the ring
Sooooo, it's like a Ticcu's divination with more steps that locks you down to one position.
This is such a cool exotic. It looks good, sounds good, and imo it’s exactly what an exotic should be.
I got it on my first raid and saw it behind me when i went back on the tower. Holy shit its huge
Got it my first run since I got all the collectables. Pretty niche, but I like it none the less
You're gonna love Legendary DMT
How is this not just Ticuu's with extra steps ?
I looked for this comment before posting it myself. Seems like Ticcu without the mobility.
I'm enjoying it bit haven't got a chance to make a build around it
I've been testing this too, pitty the pvp buff isn't double as well but makes sense as this would one shot otherwise. I've topped out at 153 for a crit and 2 15s from the tracking arrows for a grant total of 193. Any luck getting better damage Ehroar? (without any buffs , just raw dmg)
Just got it today as well as the catalyst. My new main til the end of time.
Looks super interesting but Im kind of concerned with the amount of set up it needs to start doing anything special. As opposed to le monarque which does its special thing instantly, trinity ghoul which does its thing after any arc kill and can infinitely chain, and tiicu's which only needs two shots total to get to its effect.
It seems like it will be great once it gets the ring going just not sure how viable that will be for a lot of end game stuff
I got mine on my first clear. It's going to be very good in GMs this season.
Thank you for all the content. It's very appreciated.
In my own testing, guardians count as 2 charges, kill or headshot, and 4 for a headshot kill.
Also max range seeker arrows don’t one shot but do get very close.
explosive solar bow? could make a solar warmind cell build out of it...
but the Ikalos SG may do that job batter, including with it's inharent trait as a Ikalos SG.
(unless teh catalyst allows warmind cell generation. A man can hope).
I’ll get this bow in final shape
I just finished the catalyst on mine and holy jesus does it just chunk and shred
It seems extremely good for end-game stuff. Free triple damage from long range.
As a bow user I really love this, and yeah it reminds me of ticcus.
Was watching crosses stream and ticket the catalyst you need to do the new dungeon on master difficulty
Imagine the catalyst is that it benefits other bows and is useable with leviathans breath
It'll be interesting to see how it holds up in PVP...
Pretty and unique! Gotta stay positive people!!! We are so close to a new expansion... So so close
Do the rings stack, like does shooting through multiple rings create more seeking arrows with a single shot ?
I'd definitely use this bow than Ticuu because it looks so fun to use
Is the dungeon farmable once you complete it? Or do I gotta wait till next reset
So basically the magic bow from dragons dogma... kinda neat wonder how it works with ramparts
Catalyst: firing through a ring grants decreased draw time, about twice as fast firing
Do you need to full draw after you have the ring?
Because I’m wondering how fast you can fire through it and how good it would be
Crazy how they never run out of ideas for exotics
i wonder if multiple rings have stacking effects
It says arrows fired through, it doesn’t specify that it has to be from the user, is this like a gally but for bows? Could you test if fireteam members get the extra tracking arrows?
Can you fire your own Hierarchy of Needs through a teammate's ring to make the splitter arrows?
Yes
Everybody is talking about ticuus and how much this reminds them of it, i honestly am reminded of the javelins from the warmind dlc, and it’s honestly awful to see how much people say “weapon bad, it’s not exactly like ticuus” because this isn’t ticuus. It’s entirely separate, and is honestly more fun imo (not that i’ve used it), because it is so boring to use ticuus “constant rapid hipfire then full draw aiming shot” gameplay (again, imo), so it’s nice to just have those explosions in the first place without needing that tedious (and, imo, boring) cycle.
I have 2 question:
Do other Bows get the benefit of Guidance Ring? either yours or your teammates'?
Do multiple Guidance Rings stack?
definitely one of the exotics in the game
So it only says "Arrows fired", and not "Arrows fired from this weapon". Can other bows shoot through the Guidance Ring and obtain tracking?
I wonder if it makes warmind cells like ikelos weapons. Sleeper simulant doesn't so I wouldn't be bummed out if it doesn't.
Does it stack with other players. Putting down more rings can you split an arrow multiple times with multiple peoples rings in the amar spot
Idk if it’s the bow itself but at least with wrath of Rasputin it can create war-mind cells
Look at bequest (DSC sword) with enhanced surrounded.
Would be cool if it had a catalyst where it summons warsats
It’s a really cool idea imo but it doesnt look like it’s actually gonna be viable damagewise
Not everything needs to be viable damage wise
@@shrigga9636 compare it to ticcus...it does good ad clear and better damage than this bow...
@@isaiahbridges7442 sure but the this how does have a catalyst so that could change
Interesting concept with this bow...
What if the Catalyst is that if allies shoot threw the ring their weapons do slightly more damage.
This is a good name for a weapon. I propose that the next one is "Stages of Grief"