Short answer: No, it gets 2nd place because of the new dungeon grenade launcher VS Chill Inhibitor. It has the same roll (Envious Arsenal + Bait and Switch), additional rolls (Cascade Point + Bait and Switch/Envious Assassin + Bait and Switch), and it is in the now better frame post buff (rapids > adaptives by ~7%).
the dungeon one is better at everything it has better dps and better total damage than any other heavy weapon in the game bitter/sweet is still very good but not as good
Short answer. No. Rapid fires have higher DPS and total damage due to their high reserves. They have a 10.3% advantage over adaptive nade launchers. Rapid fires have always struggled from having really bad perks historically. But the dungeon grenade launcher changes this. Making VS chill inhibitor the best grenade launcher in the game, it's a rapid fire and it has optimal damage perks. Rapids beat a lot of other setups in the game for damage rotations specifically, this includes swap rotations that have rockets. Making it a prime candidate for envious arsenal/bait and switch.
@@Elijah-bj4vo Barely, and seasonal mods are temporary. The winner is quite clear for best GL in the game. There is a difference between best in the game and best for a season.
@@SniperWolfKing77 Best for a season _is_ the current best in the game, though. Yes, after the season ends the other one will be better but in this current time if you compared the 2, the current season one is better... meaning it's the best in the game.
As a casual i like that everyone now can easily get a damage dealing gl etc much easier the games moving slow but in the right direction i think. Ty for all the builds. ❤
I got my god roll while farming the new dungeon GL with the tonic equipped, as the tonic drops a 50% chance of bittersweet whenever it procs and it procs on random kills and encounter clears, either run an encounter you can complete quick or run shuro chi/ other high density farms, I was getting a bittersweet drop around every 3 runs of shuro chi whilst levelling up another gun, doing seasonal challenges and bounties. If you have access to the dungeon I recommend the first encounter farm as you can get drops of both bittersweet and its big brother VS Chill Incapacitator at the same time
I think it's the perk image from sympathetic arsenal or just really really similar. Sympathetic arsenal was kills with this weapon reload your other weapons so it's a relatively similar perk
Ahhh see I had a feeling it was similar to some perk from Season of Arrivals, I remember feeling underwhelmed with that old version of the perk, good to know they made an upgraded version, weird gow they didn't just change the old perk to work that way and instead made a whole new perk 🤔@@jacob-2271
If you have the Dungeon Key you could farm the first encounter of Vespers Host for the dungeon GL which is actually a little better than the seasonal one, especially while having a purple tonic that focuses the Bitter/Sweet and lets it drop by getting kills anywhere i think. The 1st encounter of the dungeon can be completed hilariously fast if everyone knows what theyre doing and it drops every weapon except the Auto Rifle iirc.
How come no one shows love for the root of nightmares gl now. That thing with envious and frenzy seems like its gonna be a constant dps god. 15% is less but the max reload speed and huge first mag to me make it king
Too bad it's impossible to farm. You get like 2 drops max per tonic, this season is a waste sadly.. can't even just focus with engrams...let alone craft.
I havent bought the season pass this time around do you still think its a waste ? I don’t wanna fall behind the power creep but still I see no great value this season
Already got basically a 5/5 roll: Quick launch Spike grenades Envious arsenal Bait and switch Handling masterwork Absolutely nasty. Too bad it’s worse than the new dungeon rapid fire GL 😂
Everyone make sure to leave a comment that the dungeon GL is better! No one has done that yet. Ehroar definitely didnt start making this first since it came out first! 🤡
Then don’t make a clickbait title obviously wanting engagement from people who already know the answer lmao. Don’t be wrong on purpose then get pressed.
@tcritty2812 If you already know the answer then his title wont bait you, if you watch AND comment on it at that point youre just doing it cuz youre either bored or you second guessed yourself.
@@crg5 in what way? 😂 rapids straight outdamage adaptives. Also id way rather no what gun is best without any artifact mods. Cuz these will be gone in 2 months. Glad you made sure to run here and comment after you watched some artifact testing. And if this is from Aztecross gl testing vid im gonna lmao
Short answer: No, it gets 2nd place because of the new dungeon grenade launcher VS Chill Inhibitor. It has the same roll (Envious Arsenal + Bait and Switch), additional rolls (Cascade Point + Bait and Switch/Envious Assassin + Bait and Switch), and it is in the now better frame post buff (rapids > adaptives by ~7%).
but seasonal mods cause it to do more damge so for now it is the best
@@nehemiahvickers515 what season mod ? lol
@@powwerfoxxdark ether weapons are overcharged with the seasonal artifact perk selected
Ugh incorrect, running the right t5 artifact mods gives bittersweet vorpal and allows you to overload the mag with the origin trait
Also, you can focus farm the episode activity for this one if you can't farm the dungeon for the other. Take your pick.
The dungeon grenade launcher also has envious arsenal and bait n switch so that’s also another option
the dungeon one is better at everything
it has better dps and better total damage than any other heavy weapon in the game
bitter/sweet is still very good but not as good
The dungeon one is the only option you mean
@@DFH02 wait is it that good?
@@Mui-Edits yes, it's the best gl in the game period
@@DFH02 best heavy weapon*
Short answer. No.
Rapid fires have higher DPS and total damage due to their high reserves. They have a 10.3% advantage over adaptive nade launchers.
Rapid fires have always struggled from having really bad perks historically. But the dungeon grenade launcher changes this. Making VS chill inhibitor the best grenade launcher in the game, it's a rapid fire and it has optimal damage perks.
Rapids beat a lot of other setups in the game for damage rotations specifically, this includes swap rotations that have rockets. Making it a prime candidate for envious arsenal/bait and switch.
Publish a book about it
@@TheFonz8maybe I will!
Seasonal artifacts make this do more damage
@@Elijah-bj4vo Barely, and seasonal mods are temporary. The winner is quite clear for best GL in the game. There is a difference between best in the game and best for a season.
@@SniperWolfKing77 Best for a season _is_ the current best in the game, though. Yes, after the season ends the other one will be better but in this current time if you compared the 2, the current season one is better... meaning it's the best in the game.
I love seeing you use alethonym. I am in love with this gun.
The other gl from the dungeon does more damage 😩
Yea but this is still the #2 gl in the same which is worth grabbing
As a casual i like that everyone now can easily get a damage dealing gl etc much easier the games moving slow but in the right direction i think. Ty for all the builds. ❤
huh, youve had the option to target farm edge transit for months?
I have envious arsenal / jolting feed back
Envious arsenal/ cascade point
Now just need a bns
laughs in vs chill inhibitor.
still trying to get that godroll😔
I like it with reverberation+envious
☠️🤣
Does this outperform Wendigo with ALH/Cascade Point for swap DPS?
By a mile
@@SilverScratch Easily. And the dungeon GL outperforms this one (without artifact mods) as well.
Been really enjoying cascade/bns chill inhibitor
Side note you can shot the dark ether reaper orbs as well to collect
How's the damage compare to the heavy arc waveframe gl?
I saw this from somewhere else but I found it funny so I had to repeat it:
friendship ended with envious ass, envious arse is my new best friend
Maybe you can test Bitter/Sweet with the 2 artifact mods, which buff Dark Ether Weapons.
what’s the best way to get this GL? i’ve ran probably 300 waves of Onslaught and have gotten 1
there is focusing potions and just unfortunately get luckier
also that’s only thirty that isn’t all that much honestly and only 6 waves of 50 so
I got my god roll while farming the new dungeon GL with the tonic equipped, as the tonic drops a 50% chance of bittersweet whenever it procs and it procs on random kills and encounter clears, either run an encounter you can complete quick or run shuro chi/ other high density farms, I was getting a bittersweet drop around every 3 runs of shuro chi whilst levelling up another gun, doing seasonal challenges and bounties. If you have access to the dungeon I recommend the first encounter farm as you can get drops of both bittersweet and its big brother VS Chill Incapacitator at the same time
Hahahaha man sleeps under a rock im sorry bro
@@IDONTGAFDUDES Not everyone is chronically on the game..
Guess its finally time to trade in the wendigo, this thing ate its entire lunch
So happy to get both envi arsenal with cascade and b&s both with spike🙂
Am I insane or is envious arsenal not a new perk? Or maybe the icon just looks like something similar
I think it's the perk image from sympathetic arsenal or just really really similar.
Sympathetic arsenal was kills with this weapon reload your other weapons so it's a relatively similar perk
It's envious assassin and sympathetic arsenal combined. Next up we're get sympathetic assassin.
Ahhh see I had a feeling it was similar to some perk from Season of Arrivals, I remember feeling underwhelmed with that old version of the perk, good to know they made an upgraded version, weird gow they didn't just change the old perk to work that way and instead made a whole new perk 🤔@@jacob-2271
I’ve gotten like 30 of this gl and not a single one has been usable so it looks like imma be chasing this all season :/
If you have the Dungeon Key you could farm the first encounter of Vespers Host for the dungeon GL which is actually a little better than the seasonal one, especially while having a purple tonic that focuses the Bitter/Sweet and lets it drop by getting kills anywhere i think. The 1st encounter of the dungeon can be completed hilariously fast if everyone knows what theyre doing and it drops every weapon except the Auto Rifle iirc.
same but i just unlocked the tonic so i’m gonna be popping them in onslaught
Envious Ars. has been in the game since like launch no? I swear we've always had it
No, sympathetic arsenal might be the perk you’re thinking of and it’s terrible getting a kill reloads you’re other weapons
@@begunfuball2122 Ahhh, thats what it is. I thought they just reworked the perk lol
@@spacecowboy4386 to be fair it would also be fair if it was a rework, sympathetic is complete ass
imagine double slug with this xD
It’s probably the best for now because of Conductive Cosmic Crystal, but the dungeon one will end up being better in the long run.
I love you ehroar
How come no one shows love for the root of nightmares gl now. That thing with envious and frenzy seems like its gonna be a constant dps god. 15% is less but the max reload speed and huge first mag to me make it king
Need some damage testing on that one*
how to farm?
bitter sweet i is what will tide you over till you get the god roll chill inhibitor but both are good
Got my god roll early
Dungeon gl is good but my edge transit is still goated im sorry 😂for my void builds
Have fun swapping to surges smile
@@DFH02 I do I can't put down my void GL's .got a new one on sat already got 1k kills on it 😂
no
I have a Chill Inhibitor with Envious Arsenal + BnS if you wanna test with it
No, it's the second best, see Aegis video.
it will be my best gl for killing champs in gm
The dungeon hgl has 7.5% more dps and total damage
Is the dungeon farmable right now ?
@@marshallman402 yes
Yep this is getting nerfed! Already seeing the CRAZY! IMPOSSIBLE thumbnails lol
ehroar being late with an video after it was proven by aegis that bitter/sweet is only place 2
not everyone has the dungeon pass, or can farm the dungeon.
Too bad it's impossible to farm.
You get like 2 drops max per tonic, this season is a waste sadly.. can't even just focus with engrams...let alone craft.
I havent bought the season pass this time around do you still think its a waste ? I don’t wanna fall behind the power creep but still I see no great value this season
Dungeon one is better
Already got basically a 5/5 roll:
Quick launch
Spike grenades
Envious arsenal
Bait and switch
Handling masterwork
Absolutely nasty. Too bad it’s worse than the new dungeon rapid fire GL 😂
Y'all are some weirdos on here.
Everyone make sure to leave a comment that the dungeon GL is better! No one has done that yet. Ehroar definitely didnt start making this first since it came out first! 🤡
Then don’t make a clickbait title obviously wanting engagement from people who already know the answer lmao. Don’t be wrong on purpose then get pressed.
@tcritty2812 If you already know the answer then his title wont bait you, if you watch AND comment on it at that point youre just doing it cuz youre either bored or you second guessed yourself.
@@tcritty2812hey sis, seasonal mods actually make this the best. Come back next season to "well actually" 😺 mfers
@@crg5 in what way? 😂 rapids straight outdamage adaptives. Also id way rather no what gun is best without any artifact mods. Cuz these will be gone in 2 months. Glad you made sure to run here and comment after you watched some artifact testing. And if this is from Aztecross gl testing vid im gonna lmao
@@crg5 you do know that if you have overload gl, it overcharges both of the gl’s right?
Is Best
No. You really run out of titles of these click bait ?
Dungeon GL is already better. Keep up clown.