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With Ryzen 5500,5600g,5700g + all another am4 which people are using in 300 and 400 series of motherboards + Intel 7,8,9,10 gens + 11 gen in 400 series motherboards ( Have only PCIE 3.0) Will suffer even more with RTX 4060ti in high demanding to VRAM games with its only 8 lines of PCIE . PS: test it please (customers should know it)!
Steve I joked with my SON last year that the 6700xt is AMD's NEW 580 & SO far Ive been spot on & with #Ngreedia only popping out an 8GB 4060ti and now with News they are Secretly Strong Arming AIB's Again to NOT Use INTEL GPU's as they did with AMD 5 years ago (GPP) Team Green just makes AMD's 6700xt look better & the 6700xt just keeps out shining Newer stuff from Greedy Green again and again! I will say this First " THE 6700xt IS The NEW Mid Tier Gaming KING " ... Period !!! #FACTS !!!
We all bought our 4090s 9 months ago. Who cares about these weak cards. For such a quality UA-cam channel with excellent content, to constantly bash Nvidia, while the 4090 still dominates every benchmark chart, is sad. These clowns wont even show the 4090 on the charts. Please try to make your AMD bias a little less obvious. Show Nvidia's complete domination on the charts. Dont pretend it doesnt exist. It makes you looks pathetic. Show the 4090. Show ita dominance. Does it hurt your viewers' feelings to see it at the top of every chart? Too bad. Stop hiding the 4090. These guys used to hype power effeiciency last gen for AMD. RDNA3 is such a sh show they have to completely ignore the 4090 now. Embarrassing yourselves HUB. You are better than this. And to ignore the tremendous software upscaling from Nvidia is disingenous. Shame on you.
To ignore the enormous feature advantages that 40 series has over AMD is extremely misleading. With Nvidia's 40 series having superior software and hardware uspcaling tech and frame gen, and to just blow all that off and now show any benchmarks, you @Hardwareunboxed should be ashamed of yourself. Got my 4090 9 months ago. Does it hurt your viewers feelings to show 4090 on your benchmark charts? Does it hurt their feelings to see frame generation benchmarks. To ignore these features makes you look lile a joke. Especially when Im sure you have a 4090 in your own system. We all got our 4090s a long time ago. Nvidia has leads in every game, with a massive lead in power efficiency as well. Your AMD slanted content is the reason you dont even have 1M subscribers yet.
@@mattgreenfield8038 The 4060 is a total piece of shit. Everyone knows it's a rebranded 4050, and the 4060 Ti is a rebranded 4050 Ti. The 4060 and 4060 Ti are awfully slow for modern 60 class GPUs. Just look at their insultingly bad specs and how overpriced they are. The 4060 Ti is slower than the 3060 Ti in some games. The 4060 should have had 5120 Shaders, which would have given it 40 RT Cores and a considerable increase in ROPS, and it would have been based on the AD104 chip. The 4060 also should have had 12 GB of G6X, and that would have given it a 192 bit bus, which would increase its bandwidth by quite a bit, and that would definitely have increased its performance by a lot, especially at higher resolutions. If the 4060 had those specs, then it would be a true next gen 60 class GPU because it would have been a proper hardware upgrade. Software upgrades don't increase the raw performance of a GPU, while hardware upgrades do. Nvidia is using these gimmicky software technologies as the main selling point of their GPUs instead of giving their entry level and mid range GPUs proper next gen hardware upgrades. They are completely scamming gamers and have screwed their customers over countless times. An example of this is when they announced the 4080 12 GB for $900, and everyone knew it was either a 4070 or 4070 Ti. Raw performance should be the main selling point of GPUs. Software technologies such as DLSS and Frame Gen should be an option on the side. AMD is not perfect either. They have made some stupid choices recently.
@tyre1337 Size of the GPU: RTX 2060 445mm^2 RTX 3060 276mm^2 RTX 4060 159mm^2 The last time *60 GPU was this small was with Geforce 7000-series in 2006
@@transistorjump919 Anf why wodu they? profit margin for low end cards are garbage compare to mid to high tier, and these day all the money is in AI. Production cost between a 60 class and 90 class is nearly the same, only things that makes procustion price go up, is RAM, GPU and cooler, rest of the cost for a card is pretty much the same. So why bother if they can flip as many cards as they can for AI and whales.
A big part of the problem is nvidia sponsored games with terrible optimization. Also remember that for some reason we are using DX12 (that performs worse than DX11 on 90% of it's implementations with a ton of stuttering) and developers are focusing in stuff that is not really required / matured enough to be used with low consumption like raytracing. Consumers should ask for Vulkan on games since it performs far better than DX11 (I don't even mention dx12 since we already know it performs worse than dx11 in most titles) while also being multiplataform.
yup, another good option is the RX6800 but they're getting hard to find at retail due to all the 380-400 dollar sales they were doing on them to clear shelves. if you can find them near 300 used they're worth it over the 6700XT get near 4070 non RT performance for 1/2 the price.
I dont think so.A significant reason behind Rx580's popularity is the mining boom which allowed it to be resold to mass people at cheap rate. Rx5700 is going to be the next rx580 due to the same reason & it is also slightly better than rx6600, has the potential to be flashed into 5700xt. You will see in couple of months...
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat there is a reason why 1650 is now the most used gpu in steam survey & 1060 before that. more than 8gb vram & RT are luxury to most people. as long as they r in 1080p, 5700 will age pretty well...
Not sure about it. They had to lower the price considerably to keep it competitive. If not the VRAM, at one point the low amount of cores will play bad joke. In fact, the more pressure is on the card the less it keeps up with the nvidia in terms of performance. We've seen numerous cases where it nearly had a par with RTX 3060 ti in 1440P and even loss in 4K.
I have seen Rx6600 go for dirt cheap while the RTX3050 remained almost as expensive as its launch price. Sometimes the regional prices make no sense whatsoever.
@@ancientweeb5984Way more features? In the 2 years of owning my 3080, I have not once been impressed by RT. Its ass, it doesnt do anything but cripple performance. As for DLSS, I could only play RDR2 with it. All other games I tried had shimmering issues, artifacts, etc. I would take the 6700XT all day.
I've seen the Sapphire Pulse 6700 XT for sale at Newegg in the US for 320 USD, and it's DEFINITELY worth the extra 10 bucks over the cheap models available at 310. Sapphire Pulse models are generally the best balance of quality and price out there for any graphics cards. It's a shame that they don't make Nvidia or Intel cards, but they do seem to get preferential treatment from AMD because they exclusively work with AMD/ Radeon, and that might be part of the reason why their cards are so consistently good. Their "Pulse" branded cards are their cheapest cards, but they have an excellent track record for quality, and usually have a dual bios + switch, which is an excellent feature, because it means that you can afford to mess around with different bioses without worrying about bricking your card.
@@syncmonismActually one of best 6700xt is Powercolor Hellhound. Better PCB design and also better power delivery. Saphire is also good but not best. Nitro+ is good but price for it is higher that powercolor. But in the end everything is about silicon lottery 🙂.
of every single graphics card I have ever owned, the sapphire pulse 5600xt is far from the fastest hot rod, but it is by far the one I've been the most satisfied with. It raised the bar for me on noise levels and makes a fool out of these kid targeted flashy named rgb ridden abominations that cost more.
An interesting way to split the data for the charts at the end would be by game release year to see if there is any kind of trend as games become more demanding.
I'm wondering if the trend we're seeing of NVidias ray-tracing dominance faultering will continue. I suspect with the consoles being RDNA based we'll see RTX get relatively weaker over time as optimisation focuses on the broader install base.
@@joelconolly5574Drivers can only do so much to improve a game's performance over time. Rendering two or four million polygons is easier than rendering twelve to fourteen million polygons. It's fairly obvious that developers are starting to move away from 8th Generation consoles as a standard and it shows with the fact that 8GB is no longer enough.
Same, plus some 4k gaming on the TV at times, which it handles perfectly. The 6950XT is such a no-brainer at today's prices, easy upgrade to 4k gaming down the line if you want.
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Sponsored webcam + Sponsored Case + Sponsered RGB fans + Sponsored PSU + Sponsored MB + Sponsored everything = 10.000 AUD upgrade capable of +000000000000 FPS at 1440p. I'd rather go to electronics recycler's to buy a proper 1080p display.
I was thinking of buying a used 6700xt for 1080p60hz screen for a secondary gaming PC. Maybe pair it with 5600 + Scythe cooler, B450, 16GB RAM 3200mhz and a small case. Should hit 1080p60 at all titles on high settings, which is still a very nice experience.
@@MadViking82The Ryzen 5600 don't even need aftermarket cooling. They run silent with the stock cooler and they don't OC well anyways so no need for extra cooling the Included wrath cooler works.
I'll never forget that at one point during the gpu apocalypse you could sell your used rx 5700 xt for $1100 and buy a new rx 6700 xt for $1000 which would cover taxes and shipping, so you could just swap them out.
@@pimmanders2261 I pointed out the situation to my brother on how he should swap his 5700 xt. He wouldn't do it. Now that the 6700 xt is doing so much better in 2023 I'm having to resist rubbing it in on how he screwed up.
@@craigbomer8962 I tried to get anything in January 2021 and after 8 days of trying I found a 3060 ti in stock for $620 just as prices were going through the roof, and I was very lucky to find that. I sold it last october for $300 and got a used 3080 for $450 which I'm still using. Gamers were beaten bloody and now after the gpu apocalypse amd and nvidia are still pricing cards like the mining boom is still going on. It's disgusting and this lunacy has to end eventually.
When I bought my 3060Ti in Dec 2020 out of necessity, I was very worried that I'd need to upgrade to the 4000 series soon. But it really looks like I could wait for the 5000 series with no problems.
Even that isn't a sure thing. At the high end, the strategy seems to be "consume more power to get bigger numbers". But there is a limit to what you can effectively cool. At the low end, more power doesn't do that much. So instead of innovating chip design (very expensive), Nvidia went all in on DLSS and wants people to see that as a normal feature that should be benchmarked. Now they are also focusing on AI. I think I can see where the journey goes and the usual benchmarks will show that a potential 5000 series probably won't be much faster than the 4000s. Is that a benchmark problem, ie are benchmarks too far away from what people actually use? Time will tell.
@@yaldabaoth2 DLSS is a joke, just nvidia's way of keeping production cost low for higher margins. My card often performs worse with DLSS2 on than it does without it, driving 3440x1440 native at 200hz. I have a tiny shred of hope that they'll actually come up with some impressive hardware for the 5000 series, but at this point I'd be surprised if those cards end up being even 20% faster than the same tier 4000 series.
@@Thakkii DLSS is fine if you want to rely on it being implemented and working properly in order to make a low power draw card perform more like a high power draw version - I certainly understand that being important to people in countries with different regulations and a higher cost for power than what we have in the USA. The 4060ti power draw at full load actually tested lower than mine at idle, I regularly hit 450+ watts when running games. I like being able to rely on pure hardware horsepower more than the upscaling and frame generation, just personal preference.
now that the RX 6800 can be had for $450 I think the comparison between the 4060Ti and 6800 would be more well-suited because the 6700XT is just in a different price tier now
RX 6800 is getting rare though, and the price of the 6800XT has come down so close to it that it's at this time the better deal in most regions (maybe a $50 difference). Not complaining about mine though, at the time I got it the XT was $100 more, the RX6800 is an excellent performer and it's efficiency meant no PSU swap necessary and a very quiet cooler too.
I Agree, got a brand new 6800 for £429. more powerful and 16GB Vram buffer so hopefully even more future proof, barely any more expensive than the 4060TI 8gb
I'd love to see how the 6750 XT compares. One is currently available on Newegg for $320 ($360 - $30 promo - $10 rebate). It's just an overclocked 6700 XT, but since you're testing default clocks, the extra 6% performance on average could get it very close to the 4060 Ti.
I got mine on discount for 5% over the 6750 XT and jumped it (this was during end of mining craze, so price was still bad), and did not regret, especially watching content like this. If you can get if for under 10% over a 6700 XT, grab it, it might be a bit more money spent, but considering the next step is the 4070 range, what other options are there?
@@Hardwareunboxed I know that the conclusion will be similar, I just like numbers. Reviewers are sticking to the 6700 XT for some reason, and the lack of good reference points for the 6750 XT bothers me. It's enough of a step up to be more convincing against NVIDIA's lineup (not just "it's worth a small performance loss because it's cheaper" but "it's so close enough that you're not losing much"), and it would have been nice if reviewers gave it some attention.
For 1440p i got 6800xt that was in use (not mining, thankfully) and not regretted anything, since RT is a fancy fps-eating gimmick and FSR 2 , although worse than DLSS 2, is doing just fine for my needs. I really appreciate raw rasterisation power and a generous VRAM pool that will last me a good amount of years before i need to ponder on an upgrade.
The only game where RT really makes a serious difference to me is Cyberpunk, and that's also the game where AMD cards perform worst. Most games just do some low-level RT like shadows (no issue) and reflections (bigger performance hit depending on game, but still fine). To me RT only becomes interesting with global illumination, that's when I really see an improvement on the atmosphere, but that's sadly also the point where AMD cards seriously get to their knees. But again, there's just ONE game where it matters to me, and it's probably the #1 FOMO-inducer in reviews and I wonder how many people get a nVidia card thinking they will only play Cyberpunk over and over for the next 4 years. As a "future concept" Cyberpunk hasn't been a big influence, 2 years later there are still almost no other major titles with it's high level of RT.
@@blue_ish4499 Wouldnt worry about ray tracing. Even 4090 cant do it without frame generation introducing ugly artifacts. The fps has to be really high to mask the garbled graphics.
Near me, in the US, 6700XTs are $310-360, 6750XTs are $350-410, 6800s are $460-480. The 4060Ti is $380-460 at the same store. Honestly, I'm seeing the 6700XT=5% slower for 20% less money, 6750XT = 5% faster for same money or 6800 = 15% faster for 10% more money. To me, the 6800 non-XT is actually the winner if you can find it
It was when I got mine, but now the 6800XT is so close in price that today I'd just get the XT, less than $50 difference here. One reason to still get the 6800 might be the efficiency though, with a 550W PSU I think the 6800XT is the point where I'd get a better one, while the 6800 non-XT won't need it.
@@zalankhan5743yea the 2080ti is faster than 6700xt and it still has 11gb of vram...it also has 352bit memory bus so it doesn't get choked as much if you spill over a little bit...
@@brucepreston3927memory bus wont matter when vram is exceeded. Memory bus is from vram to gpu die. So if it spills over it has to go through pcie to ram.
Closing in on one year after release of the first current gen cards, RDNA2 is still the best value recommendation basically across all target resolutions.
@@JesusChristIsTheOnlyWay Nah. I also own a 6900xt which is basically about as fast as a stock 7900xt once overclocked and undervolted heavily anyway. You're not missing much performance unless you were looking at going with a 4090 for example. Personally I think it's smarter to stay with the current gpu we have until rtx 5000/rdna4 as then you'd most likely be able to get an actual substantial performance boost over current gen cards.
@@JesusChristIsTheOnlyWay Haha no worries :) . it's not really that difficult it just takes time to find good settings that don't cause you to have crashes in games. If you have cyberpunk 2077 I'd install that and use it as a stability test. I'm not sure why but for me it seems to be extremely sensitive to undervolting/overclocking settings on my system anyway which allowed me to dial in my settings in just an hour or so at most. Other benchmarking software like 3dmark wouldn't crash or anything even with more aggressive oc/uv settings which would cause other apps/games to crash which is why I used cyberpunk for it as I had it installed at the time as I was playing through it still lol. I could put the settings in that I use for my gpu if you want but they probably wouldn't be stable for you (I think I have a golden sample card as I can use very low voltage settings it would seem whilst also having pretty high clocks).
@@JesusChristIsTheOnlyWay Btw if you don't believe me then there is a hw unboxed video on the 7900xt and in 1440p and 4k the average fps is less than 15fps less than the 7900xt vs a 6950xt which is what you can easily overclock the 6900xt to in my experience anyway or about 12% or so difference in performance which to me is basically about the same as the 7900xt if you're gaming at 1440p or 4k I doubt you'd go from let's say 100 to 88 fps and be like damn I can really feel the difference here lol.
I went from a 3060 ti to a 7900 xtx. The Vram was the big issue so gaming in 4k is no longer a problem. Still my 3060 ti was a champ for most games. It also ran 4k with Dlss quality at decent frames. It seems like the new games and remakes have just more Vram needs. Loving my 24 gigs of Vram :)
@@tilapiadave3234 What universe do you live in where the 7900 xtx draws 960 watts of power. Because I know people with 750 watt psus that run it just fine.
Yep, I agree 100%: the RX 6800 is the must buy for 1440p gaming if you can strech your budget a bit more. With luck you can find them for 350$ used. I had it for almost 2 years and it was a fantastic performer!
@@Takisgr07Buddy. Have you even read a userbenchmark review? If the review is written by "CPUpro" or " GPUpro", it's automatically biased in favor of Nvidia and Intel, and heavily biased against AMD. Look at the reviews of recent CPUs and GPUs and you'll see. For example, look at their 13600K review compared to the Ryzen 5 7600X review.
I'm very happy with my 6700 XT purchase when I decided to build a new gaming rig last year. I have it paired with a 5600X, playing at 1440p very high settings. Good stuff.
@@Bogdan00the 4070ti which is basically a 3080ti which is basically an overclocked 3080 which the 12GB version is. Waiting months to pay $50 more for the same performance is kind of silly.
@@joemarais7683 I'm no nvidia shill or fan of their marketing bs but you could have bought a newer GPU with DLSS3.0, I know it's fake frames and all that but when the price gap is so small and the performance difference is negligable, these kind of feature weights the most the final decision
I have a 6700xt in my HTPC and it has been a great card. It plays every game i throw at it without any issues, even at 1440p. It's hooked up to a TV which limits it to only 60fps but it holds that 60 fps all day long. Definitely still a very relevant card today and clearly for years to come. 8gb cards are for 1080p and lower end games, regardless if they're from AMD or Nvidia as the memory demands are only going to get worse.
I bought MSi RX6800 (non-XT) Gaming Z Trio for the same price as the 4060Ti on a sale here in Sweden. I'm very happy with that... Especially since I still find RT to be a "technical curiosity" at best, rather than something I have turned on in games.... Instead I value super high resolutions for VR (due to how foveated rendering works and how it decrease resolution in the near periphery by 40%). I often run 2560x2560 up to 3320x3320 per eye and the 4060Ti would have an absolutely terrible time in those conditions with the low PCIe bandwidth and limited VRAM. Also, with just a 100MHz core downclock, a 100MHz VRAM overclock and a undervolt to 950mV the RX6800 Gaming Z Trio only draws 115-140W with a 1-5% hit to performance. It's a silent, power efficient beast of a card, for very little money.
@@Bogdan00 that’s a good price. Even this year the cheapest I’ve seen in my country is 420 bucks and 350 for a non-XT variant. The 4060ti is 520 bucks though so still cheaper. Our prices include our very high 25% sales tax which is why everything here is more expensive.
I got my 6750XT in december for 540€ down from 800€, its been very good for the most part, upgraded from a 2060 Super. A card that also cost around 500 - 600€ when it was new. Still insane prices... but better than 1000 - 1500 I guess...
@@joemarais7683 IDK, looking at 7900XT prices here in europe, they seem to have stabilized around €860-1000 over the last month or two, and I don't see anything on the horizon that'll shake the market up before a mid-cycle refresh... unless Battlemage somehow pulls out a 16GB 4070 competitior which seems doubtful. With NV chasing LLMs & neural networks, and AMD chasing NV, the sad truth is that none of these GPU manufacturers actually care about making good GPUs. We built their market for them, they don't need us any more... until the next crash when it'll be all 'apologies' and 'we loved you all along... honest'. Man I want you to be right though, a $500 7900XT would be... reasonable. I just paid £540 for a RX 6950XT, and I'd genuinely love to regret that descision.
If they have to choose between launching an overpriced card into a market with other options thanks to the absolute glut the crypto boom gave us, and not releasing one... I'd prefer they release nothing.
They have the 6000 series still covering pretty much every price point under the 7900 XT, starting from the 6950 XT down to the 6600, now consistently below 200 bucks. Even the 7600 was felt as pointless, as it delivers 6700 non-XT performance for about 30 bucks less (and less VRAM and memory bus width)
Here in Italy it costs 50€+ more, for a mere 5% increase in performance with noticeably higher power consumption (although not a large amount, it still means a bit more money just to use). Not really worth it.
I've had my 6700XT for about 2 years now and honestly its been a great experience. If you don't care about ray tracing it's 100% worth it at the current prices. When I first got it I wasn't so sure about moving to one of AMD's gpu's, but it was all I could get at the time for a reasonable price and I thankfully don't have any regrets.
I am no longer looking to buy (build a pc a couple of months ago), but these are always great and its interesting to see hardware trends and game specifics
@@50H3i1 What the heck is 9gag? Ah whatever, still substituting an acronym that means "greatest of all time" with a goat emoji is definitely cringe, not to mention you said "Steve back at it to prove why he's greatest of all time of benchmarks" lmao I'm dying.
Yeah that's the result that really stood out for me and bodes poorly for 8 gb cards with newer games. I picked up a 6750 XT last month for well under the price of 4060ti and it's a beast @ 1440p thanks to the 12 gb vram.
The last of us is also a poorly optimized PC port, I mean it doesn't look that much different than the ps3 version yet it consumes 48x the memory lmao.
8gb is the pc version of the Xbox Series S. Plays all the latest games at less-than-optimal, 1080p upscaled performance. Great for kiddies and casual gamers.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp TLoU runs great now with all of the patches. It only runs poorly when it runs out of VRAM on 8GB cards. I'm playing it right now with above 80fps without any problems.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp Are you forgetting what PS3 graphics look like? I still have a PS3 and this game looks night and day different on PC vs the PS3 version.
Not many figured it out, but lack of VRAM caused a lot of the Arkham Knight issues. Most cards were 2GB then. My 4GB GTX 760 variant ran the game with no stutter while I saw GTX 770 2GB cards that were a mess.
FINALLY! Segregated RT results! Thank you, thank you, that makes it much easier to see at a glance the performance difference at the time this video was made!
Just doing new build from FX 8350 + GTX 980 into R7 5700X + RX 6700 XT.. Was about to bought RTX 3060 or RTX 4060 but the price are not very good in my country, RTX 3060 Ti and 4060 Ti absolutely out of budget, so glad that I choose 6700 XT in the end :)
Bought my brother a 6700XT on christmas because I had the feeling that 12GB would be better if some games in the near or far future would use more VRAM. Well this video proves me more than right.
As far as 6700XT stock drying up, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon. Go look at Der8auer's Power Color factory tour from a few weeks ago during CES. There were trays with thousands of packages labeled as 6700 GPU chips waiting to be built.
Just had the same type like yours earlier this year to replace my old trusty GTX 980 and even get free The Last Of Us game from AMD Rewards !! So happy I make the right decision :D
Please consider adding MS Flight Simulator to your list of test games, it behaves quite differently from the other games, and would add much more value to the data than some of the current games, many of which are very similar.
Its crazy to me that a brand new 3rd gen "RTX" mid range card is outperformed by a 2 year old first gen RT core card that you can get for so much cheaper
nVidia has just as many driver issues as AMD does, I think people are being willfully ignorant to claim otherwise, the nVidia forums are one of the most tragic places on the internet with people having so much problems thats driver related yet gets zero attention to it.
@@SMGJohn Yeah I agree, I've had both AMD and Nvidia cards over the years. I just meant my card in particular had more driver issues than I was used to. Thankfully issues are resolved now.
I had so many driver issues with my 6900xt up until recently I just said fuck it I'll get a new pc (b650, 7800x3d, 6000mhz ram) and so far haven't had driver issues with the 6900xt. Once I've got a few more years out of it I'll probably go back to nvidia because I never had driver issues with my past nvidia cards
Hey Steve, I love the massive GPU benchmarks in a single game, that you do from time to time. They are probably my favorite type of content. :) Video Idea: Your comment about Doom Eternal highlighting the small memory bus of the 4060 ti, along with the similar trend on time AMD, got my thinking if Doom Eternal would be a good candidate for the next game to do a massive GPU benchmark in. I know the game isn't new anymore, but maybe it can highlight what comsumers loose when Nvidia and AMD both scimp in the memory bus. Keep up the awesome work you and Tim do and thanks for the videos. Kind regards.
I hope Intel can continue to improve and become competitive because something really needs to give here. Unfortunately I rely on NVENC so I can't easily switch to AMD at this point.
Intel's quicksync (especially with hyper-encode on Arc GPUs) actually competes pretty well with nvenc. If they keep working on it, as well as drivers and everything else with arc, they could probably weaken Nvidias monopoly on content creators. There's even software that supports arc pretty well (Davinci resolve).
I'm doing a modest build as a family computer with some left-over parts that weren't heavily used, but needed a GPU. Picked up the 6700 XT for around $330 US brand new from Best Buy. Pretty stoked on it.
The stupid thing is how much this card would have sold even at 350$ (WAY too much, for me) if it just had 4GB of vram more. Nvidia doesn't like selling these things, I think. Thanks for your videos!
I'm grateful because your charts allowed me to compare my card (2070) with current and last gen. In most of other charts 2070 is MIA because of the super. I think I'm going to wait to next gen to upgrade tho, the 2070 allowed me to play whatever I want and I'm not very demanding, I hope I can get a 4080 at 500 or equivalent when the new gen gets out.
Agreed, still using my 2070 (at 1440P) too. For those games that are more demanding I still have DLSS (balanced or in very few cases, performance) as an option. The rest of the games run just fine or aren't worth my money.
cancelled my rtx 4060ti 8gb on amazon for the rx radeon 6750 xt 12 gb. not worth waiting the the 4060 ti 16gb or whatever it is coming out with, could care less.
I was extremely lucky to pick up a new-in-box 6700XT last month for 250€, and boy am I feeling some powerful buyer's comfort seeing these latest videos
We're in agreement, my 6700xt arrives tomorrow. It will offer me around 50% more performance and vram compared to my old gpu. I was in the market for a new rig for the past 9 months, but with fantasy gpu prices, and the fresh am5 platform, I would've had to spend twice as much as I paid for my 5 year old rig. Double that once more if I wanted something like 7800x with 4080/7900xtx.
@@transistorjump919 There's no war going on, hold your horses. AMD isn't making anything for the RX7000 series between $300-700 yet because they're still trying to get rid of their excess supply of RX6000 products, and possibly to allocate enough N32 parts to start making new skus. They didn't design an entire chip over the span of years only to not release it because "Nvidia won." That's a very silly argument. Either way I don't like this long, drawn-out release schedule for a single generation. Both companies need to stop with this bull$h!t.
@@sonny958 Damn. GPU is my last part and I'd really like to build at the end of July. It's a difficult choice whether to grab a 6700 XT while there's stock or wait and see how much better the 7700 XT is
The latest rumor was that AMDs having yield issues and the chip that was going to be the 7800XT is going to become the 7700XT instead with a delayed release, with the 7800XT now being made from cut-down 79' tier die; although take that with an icberg-sized grain of salt considering it's rumors. The fact we're not seen any 'authentic' benchmark leaks, box designs etc tells me we're at least 2-3 months out for 77/78 cards, and that's at the earliest. If I was AMD I'd aim to get out a new product around the time Starfield releases to capitalise on 1650 and 1060 owners who need to upgrade (plausible, but unlikely given the current lack of leaks... maybe a paper launch?)... but then if I was AMD I'd have released the 7600 as a 7500 for $180 and captured market share and goodwill from jaded gamers who're coming to hate GPU brands... I'm not sure any of these guys will act rationally TBH.
I wanna upgrade my 2070s but there's no way I'm paying 400€ for 15-20 fps more. The 4070 is interesting but it's 700€ and 12 GB vram only. I'll wait for Battlemage, 7800XT, RTX 5000, RX 8000...whatever comes first and doesn't suck 😂
@@zalankhan5743 A 6750 XT basically. I don't think they have any incentive to release new cards in that range for the time being, they have to clear stock of the 6000s
Adding the 6750 XT in this mix of benchmarks would have gave a nice indication on how it stacks up to the 4060ti since its barely anymore expensive than a 6700xt
bless you sir for showing the nvidia vram scam, i was considering one of the 4060/ti and would have been immensely disappointed to get sub-30 FPS on 1080p due to vram.
Just picked up an RX 6700 XT 12Gb MSI Gaming X for £210, 2nd hand market. It'll be my first experience of this card, it's for a build I'm selling. I did have a 6800 previously and that was a superb card. Full spec I've managed to put together: MSI Gaming X - RX 6700 XT 12Gb - £210 (used) MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon - £20 (bargain) CPU - Ryzen 5600 - £70 (used) Stock cooler for now - £0 16Gb DDR4 3200 C16 (Corsair Vengeance) - £29 (eBay used) 1Tb Crucial P3 - £35 (new, amazon) NZXT H510 Elite - slight damage to metal on front (£35 , used) Thermalright TL-C12C-S 3-fan set (£13, new Amazon) PSU - Corsair TX550M Gold rated - £25 (used) Total = £437 total cost.
A name doesn't change the price/preformance. If the 4060ti was a $150 GPU it would be fantastic and it wouldn't matter what it was called. And since the 4050 doesn't exist we don't know how that would perform or what price it would be.
Just ordered up an MSI 6750 XT mech for $329 with a premium Starfield copy. (newegg) Feels good, should trounce my old 1060. Even on this b-350 Mortar Arctic MOBO with a 5700x. HUB is the best!
The only problem which I've experienced firsthand with 6700XT is unpolished drivers. There were fresh Win11 stuttering issues with every game, same as random stuttering, issues with browsers flickering and more, requiring you to spend a great portion of your time on various tweaks with MTP, disabling HW acceleration etc. Having ton of these "tweaks" on reddit, various advices/solutions for the same problem, finding questionable solutions on various forums is just not something I have the time for anymore... Now I'm not saying nVidia is that much better they have had or have their fair share of problems, but I've replaced the 6700XT with 3060Ti but its been a much less of an hassle, just disabling MPO and overclock/undervolt was sufficient enough for smooth sailing
Weird as the only issue I can think of that could be related to this particular card is banding present in aircraft windows when volumetric clouds are present in MSFS 2020 under DirectX 12. Otherwise it has performed as good as any of my Nvidia cards.
Have been using this card or 6+ months at this point, and the only game I had faced stuttering issue in was Returnal. But after I applied the latest patch update it was gone. My only complaint with this card is the anemic RT performace, but I have tried RT and didn't really notice a huge change in the visual presentation during actual gameplay.
their whole marketing campaign has been around frame generation, but you didnt show anything on this. the scores, positives and negatives of frame generation, and when you would actually use it or not.
Such a shame that AMD shows absolutely no interests in beating nVidia, they tried so hard in the past, yet here they have such a gold ticket to do it, yet, they are docile, nothing is more tragic and pathetic then someone giving up even when the opportunity presents itself wrapped in golden paper with red ties.
Did you watch the video? AMD have been beating Nvidia for a whole year now hands down if you cared about price performance. Simply because they let US prices fall as the market softened. Now if you think AMD should pile high new mid-range cards you're ignoring past busts after mining booms. There's simply too many used Ampere cards in the market and new ones sitting in storage, which can destroy such schemes by going on clearance sale.
@@RobBCactive Since when is 7600, 7900 XT and 7900 XTX "beating" anything? They are poor value, the 7900 XT and XTX are dumb names that should be 7800 XT and 7900 XT respectively. AMD literally tried to match nVidia with these cards and they failed miserably, now they are all heavily discounted because no one is buying these cards, AMD screwed up.
I would buy the 6700XT in a heart beat but I would also need to buy a higher PSU but even they are priced stupidly now as well 128Bit memory bus should be for the low end cards as well as 8GB. Mid range should be what 192-256bit mem bus and 10-12GB variants High end should be 386 (I don't know what the highest is) mem bus 16-24GB VRAM
I truly think BOTH AMD & Nvidia users have to be cautious going forward into the next gen video cards “8000 & 5000 series” and wait to see benchmarks from Hardware Unboxed before hitting that Pre-Order button as we have seen a whopping of let downs this gen and let’s face it, It’s a lot of money to shell out on video cards now.
You'r forgetting one important thing, its pointless to buy new graphics cards when the older gen is like 10x cheaper and has like 95% of the performance. like instead of buying the 4060 just buy a 3070 which is like 200 $ dollars used now and has better performance. and if you want to go further, amd cards are tanking in the used market like crazy atm so you can find some insane deals on them
Yeah i gotta wait a benchmark from hardware unboxed which he skips dlss and frame gen on purpose, sorry but im not a clown to trust my money on someone who is obviously getting paid to say otherwise.
Honestly, I think I would go rtx 4060ti over 6700xt. Yes I know it is basically 4050ti in disguise, but this is how the market is right now, what can you do: 1- DLSS3 2- DLSS2 >>> FSR 3- actually better performance overall 4- even better ray tracing performance 5- much much more power efficient. 6- newer product, so, I am expecting a better support down the line. 7- you can overclock its memory to reduce performance lost due to the tiny 128 bit interface People who say that 6700xt is better are honestly delusional. It is just out of hate. Again. I am not saying that 4060 ti is a good product, but it is definitly a better deal than 6700xt if both are somewhat close in price (you can find 4060ti for 379$ vs 329$ for 6700xt).
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With Ryzen 5500,5600g,5700g + all another am4 which people are using in 300 and 400 series of motherboards + Intel 7,8,9,10 gens + 11 gen in 400 series motherboards ( Have only PCIE 3.0)
Will suffer even more with RTX 4060ti in high demanding to VRAM games with its only 8 lines of PCIE .
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Steve I joked with my SON last year that the 6700xt is AMD's NEW 580 & SO far Ive been spot on & with #Ngreedia only popping out an 8GB 4060ti and now with News they are Secretly Strong Arming AIB's Again to NOT Use INTEL GPU's as they did with AMD 5 years ago (GPP) Team Green just makes AMD's 6700xt look better & the 6700xt just keeps out shining Newer stuff from Greedy Green again and again! I will say this First " THE 6700xt IS The NEW Mid Tier Gaming KING " ... Period !!! #FACTS !!!
We all bought our 4090s 9 months ago. Who cares about these weak cards. For such a quality UA-cam channel with excellent content, to constantly bash Nvidia, while the 4090 still dominates every benchmark chart, is sad. These clowns wont even show the 4090 on the charts. Please try to make your AMD bias a little less obvious. Show Nvidia's complete domination on the charts. Dont pretend it doesnt exist. It makes you looks pathetic. Show the 4090. Show ita dominance. Does it hurt your viewers' feelings to see it at the top of every chart? Too bad. Stop hiding the 4090. These guys used to hype power effeiciency last gen for AMD. RDNA3 is such a sh show they have to completely ignore the 4090 now. Embarrassing yourselves HUB. You are better than this. And to ignore the tremendous software upscaling from Nvidia is disingenous. Shame on you.
To ignore the enormous feature advantages that 40 series has over AMD is extremely misleading. With Nvidia's 40 series having superior software and hardware uspcaling tech and frame gen, and to just blow all that off and now show any benchmarks, you @Hardwareunboxed should be ashamed of yourself. Got my 4090 9 months ago. Does it hurt your viewers feelings to show 4090 on your benchmark charts? Does it hurt their feelings to see frame generation benchmarks. To ignore these features makes you look lile a joke. Especially when Im sure you have a 4090 in your own system. We all got our 4090s a long time ago. Nvidia has leads in every game, with a massive lead in power efficiency as well. Your AMD slanted content is the reason you dont even have 1M subscribers yet.
@@mattgreenfield8038 The 4060 is a total piece of shit. Everyone knows it's a rebranded 4050, and the 4060 Ti is a rebranded 4050 Ti. The 4060 and 4060 Ti are awfully slow for modern 60 class GPUs. Just look at their insultingly bad specs and how overpriced they are. The 4060 Ti is slower than the 3060 Ti in some games. The 4060 should have had 5120 Shaders, which would have given it 40 RT Cores and a considerable increase in ROPS, and it would have been based on the AD104 chip. The 4060 also should have had 12 GB of G6X, and that would have given it a 192 bit bus, which would increase its bandwidth by quite a bit, and that would definitely have increased its performance by a lot, especially at higher resolutions. If the 4060 had those specs, then it would be a true next gen 60 class GPU because it would have been a proper hardware upgrade. Software upgrades don't increase the raw performance of a GPU, while hardware upgrades do. Nvidia is using these gimmicky software technologies as the main selling point of their GPUs instead of giving their entry level and mid range GPUs proper next gen hardware upgrades. They are completely scamming gamers and have screwed their customers over countless times. An example of this is when they announced the 4080 12 GB for $900, and everyone knew it was either a 4070 or 4070 Ti. Raw performance should be the main selling point of GPUs. Software technologies such as DLSS and Frame Gen should be an option on the side. AMD is not perfect either. They have made some stupid choices recently.
2016: GTX 1070 8GiB; 1440p card for $380
2023: RTX 4060 8GiB; 1080p card for $400
Nvidia has gone backwards.
@@transistorjump919
3060 12gb
4060 8gb
some backwardness is definitely happening
@tyre1337
Size of the GPU:
RTX 2060 445mm^2
RTX 3060 276mm^2
RTX 4060 159mm^2
The last time *60 GPU was this small was with Geforce 7000-series in 2006
@@transistorjump919 Anf why wodu they? profit margin for low end cards are garbage compare to mid to high tier, and these day all the money is in AI. Production cost between a 60 class and 90 class is nearly the same, only things that makes procustion price go up, is RAM, GPU and cooler, rest of the cost for a card is pretty much the same. So why bother if they can flip as many cards as they can for AI and whales.
Nah, it's game devs that can't make a game properly. Try running that 1070 today and it's barely a 720p card 🙄
A big part of the problem is nvidia sponsored games with terrible optimization. Also remember that for some reason we are using DX12 (that performs worse than DX11 on 90% of it's implementations with a ton of stuttering) and developers are focusing in stuff that is not really required / matured enough to be used with low consumption like raytracing.
Consumers should ask for Vulkan on games since it performs far better than DX11 (I don't even mention dx12 since we already know it performs worse than dx11 in most titles) while also being multiplataform.
6700xt in the used market is the new Rx 580, absolutely amazing value for its price.
yup, another good option is the RX6800 but they're getting hard to find at retail due to all the 380-400 dollar sales they were doing on them to clear shelves. if you can find them near 300 used they're worth it over the 6700XT get near 4070 non RT performance for 1/2 the price.
Got it last year for new build. So happy with my choice.
I dont think so.A significant reason behind Rx580's popularity is the mining boom which allowed it to be resold to mass people at cheap rate. Rx5700 is going to be the next rx580 due to the same reason & it is also slightly better than rx6600, has the potential to be flashed into 5700xt. You will see in couple of months...
@@tanmay5570 5700 isn't gonna age well though. 8GB VRAM, no RT.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat there is a reason why 1650 is now the most used gpu in steam survey & 1060 before that. more than 8gb vram & RT are luxury to most people. as long as they r in 1080p, 5700 will age pretty well...
6700xt seems to age really well. Shame that I cant really get one that suits me in my area.
They dont even sell AMD cards in my country. Only Nvidia
@@Ladioz May I ask which Country?
Same. The prices actually went off budget in my area. It's on the $500 USD equivalent now.
Literally every benchmark I have seen of 6700xt vs 3060ti showed 6700xt being ~10% faster. Only HUB benchmarks show that they are somehow equal.
Not sure about it. They had to lower the price considerably to keep it competitive. If not the VRAM, at one point the low amount of cores will play bad joke. In fact, the more pressure is on the card the less it keeps up with the nvidia in terms of performance. We've seen numerous cases where it nearly had a par with RTX 3060 ti in 1440P and even loss in 4K.
Picked up a lightly used 6700xt for $250 last week. Very happy with it!
In Spain a 6700XT can now be found for €360 but the 4060Ti is above €500. No brainier for me if I had to build a new pc.
Yeah. European prices really aren’t close. In Germany you can get the 6700xt for 80-100€ less.
@@marctech1996 on geizhals cheapest 6700XT is 339 Eur, something decent like Sapphire Nitro is 352 Eur in mindfactory
In Bulgaria, I can see that we have a 340 eu priced rx 6700xt
, while the 4060 non Ti is 350 eu and the 4060ti is about 430 eu lol.
I have seen Rx6600 go for dirt cheap while the RTX3050 remained almost as expensive as its launch price. Sometimes the regional prices make no sense whatsoever.
I'm asking as a canadian, does the 360 EUR include VAT?
I bought a used 6700xt for 184$, insane performance uplift from Rx580, best deal of my life.
That is an amazing steal.
Picked up one at $190 USD. Great buy.
Not the best buy. Ebay has quite a few 3060 ti going for 200 dollars and you get way more premium features with that card.
@@ancientweeb5984 8 GB of vram, not good.
@@ancientweeb5984Way more features? In the 2 years of owning my 3080, I have not once been impressed by RT.
Its ass, it doesnt do anything but cripple performance.
As for DLSS, I could only play RDR2 with it. All other games I tried had shimmering issues, artifacts, etc.
I would take the 6700XT all day.
I'm so glad I bought a 6700xt (sapphire pulse) a year ago. It's been super solid, silent and powerful for my needs.
I've seen the Sapphire Pulse 6700 XT for sale at Newegg in the US for 320 USD, and it's DEFINITELY worth the extra 10 bucks over the cheap models available at 310.
Sapphire Pulse models are generally the best balance of quality and price out there for any graphics cards. It's a shame that they don't make Nvidia or Intel cards, but they do seem to get preferential treatment from AMD because they exclusively work with AMD/ Radeon, and that might be part of the reason why their cards are so consistently good.
Their "Pulse" branded cards are their cheapest cards, but they have an excellent track record for quality, and usually have a dual bios + switch, which is an excellent feature, because it means that you can afford to mess around with different bioses without worrying about bricking your card.
@@syncmonismActually one of best 6700xt is Powercolor Hellhound. Better PCB design and also better power delivery.
Saphire is also good but not best. Nitro+ is good but price for it is higher that powercolor. But in the end everything is about silicon lottery 🙂.
Can't go wrong with either Sapphire or Powercolor. Their reference cards for HTPC builds are excellent too.
Purchased the same GPU last year and very happy with it. Dropped a water block on it and it stays cool and quite...
of every single graphics card I have ever owned, the sapphire pulse 5600xt is far from the fastest hot rod, but it is by far the one I've been the most satisfied with. It raised the bar for me on noise levels and makes a fool out of these kid targeted flashy named rgb ridden abominations that cost more.
An interesting way to split the data for the charts at the end would be by game release year to see if there is any kind of trend as games become more demanding.
Very interesting idea. It does mean extra work but it should very clearly show the trend. Brilliant idea mate
You should probably have %diff increase on the y axis and ordered by release on the x.
Difficult since it'll be updated via drivers and it'll be optimised by the time any benchmarks is done.
I'm wondering if the trend we're seeing of NVidias ray-tracing dominance faultering will continue.
I suspect with the consoles being RDNA based we'll see RTX get relatively weaker over time as optimisation focuses on the broader install base.
@@joelconolly5574Drivers can only do so much to improve a game's performance over time. Rendering two or four million polygons is easier than rendering twelve to fourteen million polygons. It's fairly obvious that developers are starting to move away from 8th Generation consoles as a standard and it shows with the fact that 8GB is no longer enough.
I am using an rx 6950xt for 1440p gaming. Slightly overkill, but I got it it on clearance for around 580 usd a while back, so I'm happy with that.
Same, plus some 4k gaming on the TV at times, which it handles perfectly. The 6950XT is such a no-brainer at today's prices, easy upgrade to 4k gaming down the line if you want.
I also get 6950xt for 1440p and it was so much overkill that i bought 4k monitor, works great 🥰
Well it won't be overkill forever
On about the same boat - using 6950xt for 1440p ultrawide. While 2nd build uses 6800xt for normal 1440p
@@marcinkarpiuk7797 do you care i have a 4090 and you dont?
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Sponsored webcam + Sponsored Case + Sponsered RGB fans + Sponsored PSU + Sponsored MB + Sponsored everything = 10.000 AUD upgrade capable of +000000000000 FPS at 1440p. I'd rather go to electronics recycler's to buy a proper 1080p display.
@@InternetListener schizo posting
I picked up a 6700XT early last month. This video gave me an idea of what I want in my PC build. Thanks!
This will be a popular video. The 6700XT will remain the 1440p value king for now.
Value king for both 1440p and 1080p.
I was thinking of buying a used 6700xt for 1080p60hz screen for a secondary gaming PC. Maybe pair it with 5600 + Scythe cooler, B450, 16GB RAM 3200mhz and a small case.
Should hit 1080p60 at all titles on high settings, which is still a very nice experience.
@@MadViking82The Ryzen 5600 don't even need aftermarket cooling. They run silent with the stock cooler and they don't OC well anyways so no need for extra cooling the Included wrath cooler works.
I'll never forget that at one point during the gpu apocalypse you could sell your used rx 5700 xt for $1100 and buy a new rx 6700 xt for $1000 which would cover taxes and shipping, so you could just swap them out.
I did exactly that..... Big upgrade for free
@@pimmanders2261 I pointed out the situation to my brother on how he should swap his 5700 xt. He wouldn't do it. Now that the 6700 xt is doing so much better in 2023 I'm having to resist rubbing it in on how he screwed up.
I had to buy a card during the apocalypse and ended up with a used 6700xt for $800. The current prices hurt my soul, but it is what it is.
@@craigbomer8962 I tried to get anything in January 2021 and after 8 days of trying I found a 3060 ti in stock for $620 just as prices were going through the roof, and I was very lucky to find that. I sold it last october for $300 and got a used 3080 for $450 which I'm still using. Gamers were beaten bloody and now after the gpu apocalypse amd and nvidia are still pricing cards like the mining boom is still going on. It's disgusting and this lunacy has to end eventually.
I traded my Sapphire 5700xt Nitro straight up for a 6700xt nitro
Picked up a second hand XFX 6700XT and I really can't complain for £250, been absolutely solid.
Here in the philippines, the 6700xt cost around 400usd while the 4060ti cost around 800usd, both at retail prices.
Crazy!!
Here in Malaysia, RX 6800 i jsut bought is about 330 USD. Of course its a used price.
@@Iman626625 Nice. I've had mine since last Sept and its been a champ.
@@Iman626625 can i know where you bought from?
When I bought my 3060Ti in Dec 2020 out of necessity, I was very worried that I'd need to upgrade to the 4000 series soon. But it really looks like I could wait for the 5000 series with no problems.
Even that isn't a sure thing. At the high end, the strategy seems to be "consume more power to get bigger numbers". But there is a limit to what you can effectively cool. At the low end, more power doesn't do that much. So instead of innovating chip design (very expensive), Nvidia went all in on DLSS and wants people to see that as a normal feature that should be benchmarked. Now they are also focusing on AI. I think I can see where the journey goes and the usual benchmarks will show that a potential 5000 series probably won't be much faster than the 4000s. Is that a benchmark problem, ie are benchmarks too far away from what people actually use? Time will tell.
@@yaldabaoth2 DLSS is a joke, just nvidia's way of keeping production cost low for higher margins. My card often performs worse with DLSS2 on than it does without it, driving 3440x1440 native at 200hz. I have a tiny shred of hope that they'll actually come up with some impressive hardware for the 5000 series, but at this point I'd be surprised if those cards end up being even 20% faster than the same tier 4000 series.
Rtx 40 series is the worst nvidia generation
@@acolossalsquid i agree they rely too much on gimmicks, not saying is a joke but definitely they rely too much on it.
@@Thakkii DLSS is fine if you want to rely on it being implemented and working properly in order to make a low power draw card perform more like a high power draw version - I certainly understand that being important to people in countries with different regulations and a higher cost for power than what we have in the USA. The 4060ti power draw at full load actually tested lower than mine at idle, I regularly hit 450+ watts when running games. I like being able to rely on pure hardware horsepower more than the upscaling and frame generation, just personal preference.
now that the RX 6800 can be had for $450 I think the comparison between the 4060Ti and 6800 would be more well-suited because the 6700XT is just in a different price tier now
No chance against rx6800 😅
Or 6750xt is cheap to, in my case i have a RX6800 from gigabyte the OC Gaming.
That’s ridiculous. They aren’t even in the same class product wise. Full width bus, 16 gigs of VRAM vs a card that’s barely better than a 3060ti?
RX 6800 is getting rare though, and the price of the 6800XT has come down so close to it that it's at this time the better deal in most regions (maybe a $50 difference). Not complaining about mine though, at the time I got it the XT was $100 more, the RX6800 is an excellent performer and it's efficiency meant no PSU swap necessary and a very quiet cooler too.
I Agree, got a brand new 6800 for £429. more powerful and 16GB Vram buffer so hopefully even more future proof, barely any more expensive than the 4060TI 8gb
I'd love to see how the 6750 XT compares. One is currently available on Newegg for $320 ($360 - $30 promo - $10 rebate). It's just an overclocked 6700 XT, but since you're testing default clocks, the extra 6% performance on average could get it very close to the 4060 Ti.
Basically, the same thing/same rules apply.
I got mine on discount for 5% over the 6750 XT and jumped it (this was during end of mining craze, so price was still bad), and did not regret, especially watching content like this. If you can get if for under 10% over a 6700 XT, grab it, it might be a bit more money spent, but considering the next step is the 4070 range, what other options are there?
I jumped on this 6750 xt deal. It's a nice card. Undervolting+overclocking ftw
Same, I got my 6750XT back in November for around $390. I'm upgrading from a 2060 Super which was a nice uplift.
@@Hardwareunboxed I know that the conclusion will be similar, I just like numbers. Reviewers are sticking to the 6700 XT for some reason, and the lack of good reference points for the 6750 XT bothers me. It's enough of a step up to be more convincing against NVIDIA's lineup (not just "it's worth a small performance loss because it's cheaper" but "it's so close enough that you're not losing much"), and it would have been nice if reviewers gave it some attention.
For 1440p i got 6800xt that was in use (not mining, thankfully) and not regretted anything, since RT is a fancy fps-eating gimmick and FSR 2 , although worse than DLSS 2, is doing just fine for my needs. I really appreciate raw rasterisation power and a generous VRAM pool that will last me a good amount of years before i need to ponder on an upgrade.
You can still run ray tracing tho, for instance i can run crysis 2 remastered at 1440p/1728p at 60 fps with ray tracing on.
In RE4 RX6800 ray tracing is good, in Hitman 3 to.
I'm playing metro exodus right now on my 6800 in 1440, max setting, max ray tracing and getting 60+ fps. Tho I agree RT is mostly a gimmick.
The only game where RT really makes a serious difference to me is Cyberpunk, and that's also the game where AMD cards perform worst. Most games just do some low-level RT like shadows (no issue) and reflections (bigger performance hit depending on game, but still fine). To me RT only becomes interesting with global illumination, that's when I really see an improvement on the atmosphere, but that's sadly also the point where AMD cards seriously get to their knees. But again, there's just ONE game where it matters to me, and it's probably the #1 FOMO-inducer in reviews and I wonder how many people get a nVidia card thinking they will only play Cyberpunk over and over for the next 4 years. As a "future concept" Cyberpunk hasn't been a big influence, 2 years later there are still almost no other major titles with it's high level of RT.
@@blue_ish4499 Wouldnt worry about ray tracing. Even 4090 cant do it without frame generation introducing ugly artifacts. The fps has to be really high to mask the garbled graphics.
Near me, in the US, 6700XTs are $310-360, 6750XTs are $350-410, 6800s are $460-480. The 4060Ti is $380-460 at the same store. Honestly, I'm seeing the 6700XT=5% slower for 20% less money, 6750XT = 5% faster for same money or 6800 = 15% faster for 10% more money. To me, the 6800 non-XT is actually the winner if you can find it
it s quite some time since this card is no longer being produced, rare gpu and possibly a sky rocket in value down the line
It was when I got mine, but now the 6800XT is so close in price that today I'd just get the XT, less than $50 difference here. One reason to still get the 6800 might be the efficiency though, with a 550W PSU I think the 6800XT is the point where I'd get a better one, while the 6800 non-XT won't need it.
@@chrissoclone 6800 has spikes above 225 W causing a 550W unit to shutdown. You need a PSU with 2 separate 8 pins!
Got my Hellhound Spectral White 6700 XT for 270$ used and this lil ol' monster runs amazing. Definitely worth the purchase for my first PC build.
Great job Steve! Thanks for the slides showing us the summary comparison with no RT results for those of us that don’t care for RT
You can also look for 6700 xt second-hand, an advantage from being an older card. It can be found for even 250$.
Edit: Or 3060 ti for sub 200$!
I Found a 2080 ti for $250 so those can also be worth it for like lower $280
@@zalankhan5743yea the 2080ti is faster than 6700xt and it still has 11gb of vram...it also has 352bit memory bus so it doesn't get choked as much if you spill over a little bit...
@@brucepreston3927memory bus wont matter when vram is exceeded. Memory bus is from vram to gpu die. So if it spills over it has to go through pcie to ram.
@@zalankhan5743I got mine for 315 usd in January
@@zalankhan5743 2080 Ti sucks for this sole reason: gigantic die making it susceptible to BGA failure.
Also, early models with dogshit Micron VRAM.
Closing in on one year after release of the first current gen cards, RDNA2 is still the best value recommendation basically across all target resolutions.
So I shouldn’t get the feeling of “left out” with the RDNA3 or the upcoming RDNA4?? 🙂
I have a 6900XT I got 6 or 7 months ago.
@@JesusChristIsTheOnlyWay Nah. I also own a 6900xt which is basically about as fast as a stock 7900xt once overclocked and undervolted heavily anyway. You're not missing much performance unless you were looking at going with a 4090 for example. Personally I think it's smarter to stay with the current gpu we have until rtx 5000/rdna4 as then you'd most likely be able to get an actual substantial performance boost over current gen cards.
@@WyattOShea Now I’ll have to do a little research and see how to overclock the card lol I’m a noob at this thanks for the response!! 🙏🙏🙌🙌
@@JesusChristIsTheOnlyWay Haha no worries :) . it's not really that difficult it just takes time to find good settings that don't cause you to have crashes in games.
If you have cyberpunk 2077 I'd install that and use it as a stability test. I'm not sure why but for me it seems to be extremely sensitive to undervolting/overclocking settings on my system anyway which allowed me to dial in my settings in just an hour or so at most.
Other benchmarking software like 3dmark wouldn't crash or anything even with more aggressive oc/uv settings which would cause other apps/games to crash which is why I used cyberpunk for it as I had it installed at the time as I was playing through it still lol.
I could put the settings in that I use for my gpu if you want but they probably wouldn't be stable for you (I think I have a golden sample card as I can use very low voltage settings it would seem whilst also having pretty high clocks).
@@JesusChristIsTheOnlyWay Btw if you don't believe me then there is a hw unboxed video on the 7900xt and in 1440p and 4k the average fps is less than 15fps less than the 7900xt vs a 6950xt which is what you can easily overclock the 6900xt to in my experience anyway or about 12% or so difference in performance which to me is basically about the same as the 7900xt if you're gaming at 1440p or 4k I doubt you'd go from let's say 100 to 88 fps and be like damn I can really feel the difference here lol.
I went from a 3060 ti to a 7900 xtx. The Vram was the big issue so gaming in 4k is no longer a problem. Still my 3060 ti was a champ for most games. It also ran 4k with Dlss quality at decent frames. It seems like the new games and remakes have just more Vram needs. Loving my 24 gigs of Vram :)
7900 XTX is a BEAST
Good to know 3060 ti can do some 4K what sort of FPS were you getting before the upgrade though
@@tilapiadave3234 you can just undervolt if it’s that big of an issue
@@tilapiadave3234 3x is just a blatant lie lol, you think the 7900xtx uses 350w and the 4080 115w or what?
@@tilapiadave3234 What universe do you live in where the 7900 xtx draws 960 watts of power. Because I know people with 750 watt psus that run it just fine.
i REALLY appreciate that you did the numbers separating RT vs no RT is so useful.
The RX 6800 (non-XT) is super underrated for the price
yes just got one for 400 dollar 1 month used....4060ti 8gb in my country new is 500 dollar
@@utasnimulhoq6519 Same here
agree
I got one for $360 a couple months ago qnd I've been having a blast
Yep, I agree 100%: the RX 6800 is the must buy for 1440p gaming if you can strech your budget a bit more. With luck you can find them for 350$ used. I had it for almost 2 years and it was a fantastic performer!
I would choose the 6700 XT over the 4060 Ti any day.
6800XT still remains the 👑 of the value market.
6800*
@blue-lu3izWhat is the NVIDIA equivalent to the RX 6800 and what is the difference between a 6800 XT?
Tomorrow you will say 6900xt 😂
Tomorrow you will say 6900xt 😂
Tomorrow you will say 6900xt 😂
I've been using a 6800xt for my main PC since 2021 and it's run my 3, 1440p monitor set up quite well.
5:30 That 1% low goes against UserBenchmark's narrative! I wonder how they could spin this terrible result in Nvidia's favor.
Userbenchmark is far more accurate since they dont get paid amd to say otherwise.
@@Takisgr07Buddy. Have you even read a userbenchmark review? If the review is written by "CPUpro" or " GPUpro", it's automatically biased in favor of Nvidia and Intel, and heavily biased against AMD. Look at the reviews of recent CPUs and GPUs and you'll see.
For example, look at their 13600K review compared to the Ryzen 5 7600X review.
Everything
@@Takisgr07 hahahahaha you serious ?
I'm very happy with my 6700 XT purchase when I decided to build a new gaming rig last year. I have it paired with a 5600X, playing at 1440p very high settings. Good stuff.
Im very happy with my rx7800xt oc edition. It is really the best card for this price range.
I bought the Gigabyte Eagle 6700 XT about a year ago. I definitely don't regret that purchase.
So glad I bought the 3080 12gb. Fantastic card at 800 usd new in oct ‘22
you could have waited to buy a 4070ti or a 7900xt
@@Bogdan00the 4070ti which is basically a 3080ti which is basically an overclocked 3080 which the 12GB version is.
Waiting months to pay $50 more for the same performance is kind of silly.
@@joemarais7683 I'm no nvidia shill or fan of their marketing bs but you could have bought a newer GPU with DLSS3.0, I know it's fake frames and all that but when the price gap is so small and the performance difference is negligable, these kind of feature weights the most the final decision
@@Khandones strix OC by chance?
@@Bogdan00 waiting is always gonna give you more, but you have to buy eventually. I’ll get dlss3 and more next time.
I have a 6700xt in my HTPC and it has been a great card. It plays every game i throw at it without any issues, even at 1440p. It's hooked up to a TV which limits it to only 60fps but it holds that 60 fps all day long. Definitely still a very relevant card today and clearly for years to come. 8gb cards are for 1080p and lower end games, regardless if they're from AMD or Nvidia as the memory demands are only going to get worse.
I thought I was a unicorn. I love sitting back on my recliner playing a good vid on my 65" 4k 60fps TV.
What cpu are you guys using? Is it holding 60fps on 4k???
I bought MSi RX6800 (non-XT) Gaming Z Trio for the same price as the 4060Ti on a sale here in Sweden. I'm very happy with that... Especially since I still find RT to be a "technical curiosity" at best, rather than something I have turned on in games.... Instead I value super high resolutions for VR (due to how foveated rendering works and how it decrease resolution in the near periphery by 40%). I often run 2560x2560 up to 3320x3320 per eye and the 4060Ti would have an absolutely terrible time in those conditions with the low PCIe bandwidth and limited VRAM.
Also, with just a 100MHz core downclock, a 100MHz VRAM overclock and a undervolt to 950mV the RX6800 Gaming Z Trio only draws 115-140W with a 1-5% hit to performance. It's a silent, power efficient beast of a card, for very little money.
I paid 600 for my 6700XT and that was a great deal when I bought it as most costed around 900. How things have changed.
My used one was $800 right in the middle of the gpu apocalypse. The current prices sting a little every time I see them lol.
I paid 410$ on mine last year.
Me also 600,but I have sell my RX 580 for 200, so good deal 🤝
@@Bogdan00 that’s a good price. Even this year the cheapest I’ve seen in my country is 420 bucks and 350 for a non-XT variant. The 4060ti is 520 bucks though so still cheaper. Our prices include our very high 25% sales tax which is why everything here is more expensive.
I got my 6750XT in december for 540€ down from 800€, its been very good for the most part, upgraded from a 2060 Super. A card that also cost around 500 - 600€ when it was new. Still insane prices... but better than 1000 - 1500 I guess...
Great video, Steve. I went from a GTX 1660 Super to an RX 6700 XT and been gaming comfortably since then. 🎮
My 6700 XT has been putting in some pretty good work since I got it last year
The most important question about 1440p gaming: Where are the new (7700, 7800) AMD cards?
They’re not coming. And that’s fine, the 7900xt will probably be $500 by Black Friday anyways.
@@joemarais7683 IDK, looking at 7900XT prices here in europe, they seem to have stabilized around €860-1000 over the last month or two, and I don't see anything on the horizon that'll shake the market up before a mid-cycle refresh...
unless Battlemage somehow pulls out a 16GB 4070 competitior which seems doubtful.
With NV chasing LLMs & neural networks, and AMD chasing NV, the sad truth is that none of these GPU manufacturers actually care about making good GPUs.
We built their market for them, they don't need us any more... until the next crash when it'll be all 'apologies' and 'we loved you all along... honest'.
Man I want you to be right though, a $500 7900XT would be... reasonable.
I just paid £540 for a RX 6950XT, and I'd genuinely love to regret that descision.
AMD knows their cards are trash and don’t stand a chance against NVIDIA so you are seeing them give up in real-time. Even 980 ti > 7900xtx
If they have to choose between launching an overpriced card into a market with other options thanks to the absolute glut the crypto boom gave us, and not releasing one... I'd prefer they release nothing.
They have the 6000 series still covering pretty much every price point under the 7900 XT, starting from the 6950 XT down to the 6600, now consistently below 200 bucks. Even the 7600 was felt as pointless, as it delivers 6700 non-XT performance for about 30 bucks less (and less VRAM and memory bus width)
The thing is that you can also find a 6750Xt at the price of a 4060 ti so the gap would be reduced
@@blue-lu3iz it's costing same as 6700xt in India & 100$ lower than 4060ti 8gb 😅 .
@@sourabhparmar182 india lmao.
@@kaimojepaslt I mean India has the highest population in the world, so that info is important to a lot of people.
Here in Italy it costs 50€+ more, for a mere 5% increase in performance with noticeably higher power consumption (although not a large amount, it still means a bit more money just to use). Not really worth it.
@@sourabhparmar182are prices in India uniform around country or there are changes state to state? Just curious
I've had my 6700XT for about 2 years now and honestly its been a great experience. If you don't care about ray tracing it's 100% worth it at the current prices. When I first got it I wasn't so sure about moving to one of AMD's gpu's, but it was all I could get at the time for a reasonable price and I thankfully don't have any regrets.
The 4060ti 16gb will be priced the same as a 6800xt (at current pricing). I’m betting that won’t fair well either.
But muh power draw...😐
@@CrustyWhiteBread Yeah. You can pay too much for a slower card that will use $6 a year less electricity. 😂
@@CrustyWhiteBread Power draw isn’t an issue if you don’t plan on gaming for several hours a day.
@@Your100percentrightbut Sarcasm, Hoss.
I am no longer looking to buy (build a pc a couple of months ago), but these are always great and its interesting to see hardware trends and game specifics
Steve back at it to prove why he's 🐐 of benchmarks
Cringe emoji's
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp this ain't 9gag bro
@@50H3i1 What the heck is 9gag? Ah whatever, still substituting an acronym that means "greatest of all time" with a goat emoji is definitely cringe, not to mention you said "Steve back at it to prove why he's greatest of all time of benchmarks" lmao I'm dying.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp lmao you take life too hard on yourself
@@50H3i1 I think you're right. Maybe.
Aww hell who am I kidding. I'm just pulling your leg haha. x-D
That Last of Us result is brutal. This is a telling indication of 8GB VRAM going forward.
Yeah that's the result that really stood out for me and bodes poorly for 8 gb cards with newer games. I picked up a 6750 XT last month for well under the price of 4060ti and it's a beast @ 1440p thanks to the 12 gb vram.
The last of us is also a poorly optimized PC port, I mean it doesn't look that much different than the ps3 version yet it consumes 48x the memory lmao.
8gb is the pc version of the Xbox Series S. Plays all the latest games at less-than-optimal, 1080p upscaled performance. Great for kiddies and casual gamers.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp TLoU runs great now with all of the patches. It only runs poorly when it runs out of VRAM on 8GB cards. I'm playing it right now with above 80fps without any problems.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp Are you forgetting what PS3 graphics look like? I still have a PS3 and this game looks night and day different on PC vs the PS3 version.
Not many figured it out, but lack of VRAM caused a lot of the Arkham Knight issues. Most cards were 2GB then. My 4GB GTX 760 variant ran the game with no stutter while I saw GTX 770 2GB cards that were a mess.
my rtx 3070 stutters in that game. The port is just shit
It's a mixture of things. CPU performance likely wasn't well optimised either.
There isn't one simple fix to ports like that
@@donsly375 Nah, that's your CPU/GPU
My 5700 XT + R5 3600 gets locked 4K60 perfectly framepaced. No hardware Physx of course.
@@raresmacovei8382 i have a r5 5600 and rtx 3070 and 32 gb. now tell me again, it's my hardware
@@donsly375 Given your faster hardware stutters and mine doesn't .... yes?
I love the new camera shot for the intro. Good looking studio, and amazing color balance.
The RX 6800 series can be found for $450-500 as well right now, though even at that price the value proposition is still with the 6700XT
Have been rocking the 6700xt at 1440p for almost a year now, zero regrets
FINALLY! Segregated RT results! Thank you, thank you, that makes it much easier to see at a glance the performance difference at the time this video was made!
Just doing new build from FX 8350 + GTX 980 into R7 5700X + RX 6700 XT.. Was about to bought RTX 3060 or RTX 4060 but the price are not very good in my country, RTX 3060 Ti and 4060 Ti absolutely out of budget, so glad that I choose 6700 XT in the end :)
In Europe you can get a dual fan PowerColor 6700xt for €340 while the cheapest 4060ti is a single fan Gainward for €411. What are NVIDIA thinking?
So glad we’ve got unbiased reviewers.
$20 promo was on that sapphire pulse too, for a total price of $300
Bought my brother a 6700XT on christmas because I had the feeling that 12GB would be better if some games in the near or far future would use more VRAM.
Well this video proves me more than right.
As far as 6700XT stock drying up, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon. Go look at Der8auer's Power Color factory tour from a few weeks ago during CES. There were trays with thousands of packages labeled as 6700 GPU chips waiting to be built.
Maybe they will factory overclock them and sell them as 6750XT. It's not like a 100mhz overclock is something special.
i just bought yesterday a Gigabyte RX 6750XT and its been great.. now im planning to buy a 1440p monitor for it.. thank you for all your hard work..
Bought my red devil 6700xt a year ago open box for $330. Glad to see it's still as good or better than the latest releases 😂
Just had the same type like yours earlier this year to replace my old trusty GTX 980 and even get free The Last Of Us game from AMD Rewards !! So happy I make the right decision :D
For your summary graphs add in 1%lows as well on the same graph please, would make a big difference, love that you separate rt and non rt as well
got a 6700 XT fairly recently, excellent value
I picked up the 6700 XT 12 gb for 230.00 its bloody great
They just want to make sure they've gotten everything out of us from the prior gen before they start getting real with this one. Working like a champ.
Please consider adding MS Flight Simulator to your list of test games, it behaves quite differently from the other games, and would add much more value to the data than some of the current games, many of which are very similar.
Its crazy to me that a brand new 3rd gen "RTX" mid range card is outperformed by a 2 year old first gen RT core card that you can get for so much cheaper
See kids, this is why you don't compromise on memory of the GPU.
I do love my RTX 3060 laptop and it's usually great for 1080p gaming, but it's definitely been feeling the VRAM squeeze on recent titles.
Except for a few issues here and there with drivers over the past year, I'm still delighted with my 6700XT. Great value card
nVidia has just as many driver issues as AMD does, I think people are being willfully ignorant to claim otherwise, the nVidia forums are one of the most tragic places on the internet with people having so much problems thats driver related yet gets zero attention to it.
@@SMGJohn That's how reputation works my friend :)
@@SMGJohn Yeah I agree, I've had both AMD and Nvidia cards over the years. I just meant my card in particular had more driver issues than I was used to. Thankfully issues are resolved now.
I had so many driver issues with my 6900xt up until recently I just said fuck it I'll get a new pc (b650, 7800x3d, 6000mhz ram) and so far haven't had driver issues with the 6900xt. Once I've got a few more years out of it I'll probably go back to nvidia because I never had driver issues with my past nvidia cards
Same here.
Hey Steve,
I love the massive GPU benchmarks in a single game, that you do from time to time. They are probably my favorite type of content. :)
Video Idea:
Your comment about Doom Eternal highlighting the small memory bus of the 4060 ti, along with the similar trend on time AMD, got my thinking if Doom Eternal would be a good candidate for the next game to do a massive GPU benchmark in. I know the game isn't new anymore, but maybe it can highlight what comsumers loose when Nvidia and AMD both scimp in the memory bus.
Keep up the awesome work you and Tim do and thanks for the videos.
Kind regards.
4060ti gonna age like milk
It's already a shit card
Milk tastes good at some point. This card is gonna age like shit, since it’s started as shit already..
@@joemarais7683 Since it starts at shit and remains at shit, it's not really aging at all. 🤔
@@mjc0961 Can't age if you're already dead
@@mjc0961it's gonna decompose. 😂 and disappear, forgotten, lost to time. No one will remember this crap.
I bought the arc a770 as a joke, assuming I would be swapping it once 40 series comes out. Now I am keeping it until battlemage comes.
I hope Intel can continue to improve and become competitive because something really needs to give here. Unfortunately I rely on NVENC so I can't easily switch to AMD at this point.
Intel's quicksync (especially with hyper-encode on Arc GPUs) actually competes pretty well with nvenc. If they keep working on it, as well as drivers and everything else with arc, they could probably weaken Nvidias monopoly on content creators. There's even software that supports arc pretty well (Davinci resolve).
Save us Battlemage 🙏
Just got a Sapphire Pulse 6700 XT for $300 for a new build. Pretty excited!
Just got a used 6900xt for less than 300 dollars. Pretty happy
I'm doing a modest build as a family computer with some left-over parts that weren't heavily used, but needed a GPU. Picked up the 6700 XT for around $330 US brand new from Best Buy. Pretty stoked on it.
The stupid thing is how much this card would have sold even at 350$
(WAY too much, for me)
if it just had 4GB of vram more.
Nvidia doesn't like selling these things, I think.
Thanks for your videos!
Nah, they just know that they can put out an inferior product and their fans will still suck em up like candy regardless of price.
Exactly the info I needed! Tank you! Liked and subscribed (some time ago).
I picked up 6750xt over 4060ti because its more future proof with 12gb vram. I hope it will last me for a long time.
I'm grateful because your charts allowed me to compare my card (2070) with current and last gen. In most of other charts 2070 is MIA because of the super. I think I'm going to wait to next gen to upgrade tho, the 2070 allowed me to play whatever I want and I'm not very demanding, I hope I can get a 4080 at 500 or equivalent when the new gen gets out.
Agreed, still using my 2070 (at 1440P) too. For those games that are more demanding I still have DLSS (balanced or in very few cases, performance) as an option. The rest of the games run just fine or aren't worth my money.
cancelled my rtx 4060ti 8gb on amazon for the rx radeon 6750 xt 12 gb. not worth waiting the the 4060 ti 16gb or whatever it is coming out with, could care less.
I was extremely lucky to pick up a new-in-box 6700XT last month for 250€, and boy am I feeling some powerful buyer's comfort seeing these latest videos
We're in agreement, my 6700xt arrives tomorrow. It will offer me around 50% more performance and vram compared to my old gpu.
I was in the market for a new rig for the past 9 months, but with fantasy gpu prices, and the fresh am5 platform, I would've had to spend twice as much as I paid for my 5 year old rig. Double that once more if I wanted something like 7800x with 4080/7900xtx.
Any news on the 7700 XT? Was supposed to be this month...
probably in august
@@transistorjump919 There's no war going on, hold your horses. AMD isn't making anything for the RX7000 series between $300-700 yet because they're still trying to get rid of their excess supply of RX6000 products, and possibly to allocate enough N32 parts to start making new skus. They didn't design an entire chip over the span of years only to not release it because "Nvidia won." That's a very silly argument.
Either way I don't like this long, drawn-out release schedule for a single generation. Both companies need to stop with this bull$h!t.
@@sonny958 Damn. GPU is my last part and I'd really like to build at the end of July. It's a difficult choice whether to grab a 6700 XT while there's stock or wait and see how much better the 7700 XT is
@@transistorjump919Bro really said "I ain't readin allat💀"
The latest rumor was that AMDs having yield issues and the chip that was going to be the 7800XT is going to become the 7700XT instead with a delayed release, with the 7800XT now being made from cut-down 79' tier die; although take that with an icberg-sized grain of salt considering it's rumors. The fact we're not seen any 'authentic' benchmark leaks, box designs etc tells me we're at least 2-3 months out for 77/78 cards, and that's at the earliest.
If I was AMD I'd aim to get out a new product around the time Starfield releases to capitalise on 1650 and 1060 owners who need to upgrade (plausible, but unlikely given the current lack of leaks... maybe a paper launch?)... but then if I was AMD I'd have released the 7600 as a 7500 for $180 and captured market share and goodwill from jaded gamers who're coming to hate GPU brands... I'm not sure any of these guys will act rationally TBH.
Was pleased to grab a RX 6700 XT Asus Tuf Gaming OC 3-Fan Edition recently for £260 here in the UK, there seem to be quite a few on Ebay thankfully!
I wanna upgrade my 2070s but there's no way I'm paying 400€ for 15-20 fps more.
The 4070 is interesting but it's 700€ and 12 GB vram only.
I'll wait for Battlemage, 7800XT, RTX 5000, RX 8000...whatever comes first and doesn't suck 😂
Same. None of these GPUs are appealing at all and as it turns out we did good buying turing when we did.
Great video! Next month Hardware Unboxed can compare the $500 RTX 4060ti 16GB with similar priced RX 6800xt. The suspense!
I hope AMD's new "$400" card would be at least between 6800 and 6800XT in performance. I think that's vague to happen.
Considering the Current trend. I think it will be Faster than the 6700xt but Slower than 6800.
@@zalankhan5743 A 6750 XT basically. I don't think they have any incentive to release new cards in that range for the time being, they have to clear stock of the 6000s
It’ll probably be the same as the 6700xt. They’re gonna follow Nvidia’s price to performance, so expect nothing and be pleasantly surprised.
Adding the 6750 XT in this mix of benchmarks would have gave a nice indication on how it stacks up to the 4060ti since its barely anymore expensive than a 6700xt
bless you sir for showing the nvidia vram scam, i was considering one of the 4060/ti and would have been immensely disappointed to get sub-30 FPS on 1080p due to vram.
Just picked up an RX 6700 XT 12Gb MSI Gaming X for £210, 2nd hand market. It'll be my first experience of this card, it's for a build I'm selling. I did have a 6800 previously and that was a superb card.
Full spec I've managed to put together:
MSI Gaming X - RX 6700 XT 12Gb - £210 (used)
MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon - £20 (bargain)
CPU - Ryzen 5600 - £70 (used)
Stock cooler for now - £0
16Gb DDR4 3200 C16 (Corsair Vengeance) - £29 (eBay used)
1Tb Crucial P3 - £35 (new, amazon)
NZXT H510 Elite - slight damage to metal on front (£35 , used)
Thermalright TL-C12C-S 3-fan set (£13, new Amazon)
PSU - Corsair TX550M Gold rated - £25 (used)
Total = £437 total cost.
4060ti is underwhelming because it's a 4050 through and through.
A name doesn't change the price/preformance. If the 4060ti was a $150 GPU it would be fantastic and it wouldn't matter what it was called.
And since the 4050 doesn't exist we don't know how that would perform or what price it would be.
Man! Thank you for this video!
I'm so glad I sold my 3070 and got a 6800 instead. Very happy indeed
did the same but needed to add 50 dollar ....got a xfx one. far better than my 3070
@@utasnimulhoq6519 also got the xfx model. Good GPUs
Just ordered up an MSI 6750 XT mech for $329 with a premium Starfield copy. (newegg)
Feels good, should trounce my old 1060. Even on this b-350 Mortar Arctic MOBO with a 5700x. HUB is the best!
The only problem which I've experienced firsthand with 6700XT is unpolished drivers. There were fresh Win11 stuttering issues with every game, same as random stuttering, issues with browsers flickering and more, requiring you to spend a great portion of your time on various tweaks with MTP, disabling HW acceleration etc. Having ton of these "tweaks" on reddit, various advices/solutions for the same problem, finding questionable solutions on various forums is just not something I have the time for anymore...
Now I'm not saying nVidia is that much better they have had or have their fair share of problems, but I've replaced the 6700XT with 3060Ti but its been a much less of an hassle, just disabling MPO and overclock/undervolt was sufficient enough for smooth sailing
Weird as the only issue I can think of that could be related to this particular card is banding present in aircraft windows when volumetric clouds are present in MSFS 2020 under DirectX 12. Otherwise it has performed as good as any of my Nvidia cards.
Have been using this card or 6+ months at this point, and the only game I had faced stuttering issue in was Returnal. But after I applied the latest patch update it was gone. My only complaint with this card is the anemic RT performace, but I have tried RT and didn't really notice a huge change in the visual presentation during actual gameplay.
their whole marketing campaign has been around frame generation, but you didnt show anything on this. the scores, positives and negatives of frame generation, and when you would actually use it or not.
Such a shame that AMD shows absolutely no interests in beating nVidia, they tried so hard in the past, yet here they have such a gold ticket to do it, yet, they are docile, nothing is more tragic and pathetic then someone giving up even when the opportunity presents itself wrapped in golden paper with red ties.
They're not that far from APUs that can compete at the low end with no dedicated GPU, I don't think they've given up at all.
alongside cpu's, apu's and AI. They making cash nodoubt
Did you watch the video? AMD have been beating Nvidia for a whole year now hands down if you cared about price performance. Simply because they let US prices fall as the market softened.
Now if you think AMD should pile high new mid-range cards you're ignoring past busts after mining booms.
There's simply too many used Ampere cards in the market and new ones sitting in storage, which can destroy such schemes by going on clearance sale.
@@RobBCactiveNo we don't care about price performance. Get a job man.
@@RobBCactive
Since when is 7600, 7900 XT and 7900 XTX "beating" anything? They are poor value, the 7900 XT and XTX are dumb names that should be 7800 XT and 7900 XT respectively.
AMD literally tried to match nVidia with these cards and they failed miserably, now they are all heavily discounted because no one is buying these cards, AMD screwed up.
I would buy the 6700XT in a heart beat but I would also need to buy a higher PSU but even they are priced stupidly now as well
128Bit memory bus should be for the low end cards as well as 8GB.
Mid range should be what 192-256bit mem bus and 10-12GB variants
High end should be 386 (I don't know what the highest is) mem bus 16-24GB VRAM
I truly think BOTH AMD & Nvidia users have to be cautious going forward into the next gen video cards “8000 & 5000 series” and wait to see benchmarks from Hardware Unboxed before hitting that Pre-Order button as we have seen a whopping of let downs this gen and let’s face it, It’s a lot of money to shell out on video cards now.
You'r forgetting one important thing, its pointless to buy new graphics cards when the older gen is like 10x cheaper and has like 95% of the performance. like instead of buying the 4060 just buy a 3070 which is like 200 $ dollars used now and has better performance. and if you want to go further, amd cards are tanking in the used market like crazy atm so you can find some insane deals on them
Yeah i gotta wait a benchmark from hardware unboxed which he skips dlss and frame gen on purpose, sorry but im not a clown to trust my money on someone who is obviously getting paid to say otherwise.
@@transistorjump919 theyre obviously exaggerating
Honestly, I think I would go rtx 4060ti over 6700xt. Yes I know it is basically 4050ti in disguise, but this is how the market is right now, what can you do:
1- DLSS3
2- DLSS2 >>> FSR
3- actually better performance overall
4- even better ray tracing performance
5- much much more power efficient.
6- newer product, so, I am expecting a better support down the line.
7- you can overclock its memory to reduce performance lost due to the tiny 128 bit interface
People who say that 6700xt is better are honestly delusional. It is just out of hate. Again. I am not saying that 4060 ti is a good product, but it is definitly a better deal than 6700xt if both are somewhat close in price (you can find 4060ti for 379$ vs 329$ for 6700xt).