EFNOTE How To: Plug and Play to logic Pro X USB 8ch Audio w/ USB MIDI
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2021
- Playing example at 5:40
In this quick how-To video, Michael Bedard demonstrates that all you need is an EFNOTE kit, a laptop and a DAW to track great sounding ideas FAST. There's a quick walkthrough of routing, track setup, midi/VST selection and fast customization, followed by tracking and playback.
Demoing the beat to the illusive 777-9311 Written by Prince, with hi hat programmed by David Garibaldi and performed by Morris Day and The Time.
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I love these drums from everything I've seen, especially the EF Note 5. Wishing you guys much success!
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica awesome man! I'll make a proper video about you guys. Do you think you'd be interested in coming on a live stream to talk about em?
@@demonicsweaters Sorry, we lost all of our comment replies when we changed over our Brand UA-cam account. thank you for the feedback! Michael
Name that tune lol Man! Now I need an electric kit and logic.
How to use with Reaper or other DAWs on PC:
-- Download and install the ASIO Driver v1.2 for Windows from the ef-note website.
-- Connect USB
-- In Reaper, go to Options > Preferences > Audio > Device, and select ASIO in Audio System, then select "ASIO 2.0 EFNOTE" in ASIO Driver.
-- -- Make sure Enable Inputs is set for "First = Channel 1/2 L" and "Last = Channel 7/8 R" (ie. Audio 1 = "Channel 1/2 L", Audio 2 = "Channel 1/2 R", Audio 3 = "Channel 3/4 L", etc.)
-- In Reaper, set up each track's input source as usual to match your Audio Pad output settings in the EFNOTE (similar to as shown in this video)
Damn, I wasn’t expecting that!
This kit is super fun! Michael
Thank you. 🤙🏼
These kits sound amazing. I hope they hire the same engineers and do some room mic kits in the future.
Thank you Matt, in this recording I had a small amount of our "Room 1" ambience set on the snare and tom rim (808 Clap). There are 8 different types of ambience onboard the module, including Rooms, halls, stages and plates. There is a master send We do all of the recording in-house so it will be the same engineers.
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica The engineer nailed the sound. You have the best natural analog sounding kits. Is there a way to record at 96k or above using the USB? Also do the snares have bleed into the cymbal tracks like overheads? I hope so! I would love to mix them like a real drum kit. Thank you.
Michael, I would like to use the EFNote for Zoom lessons. Probably a fairly common use case. Could you suggest ways to route the signal? I would like the Zoom listener to hear the EFNote, my usb headset & mic and possibly any background audio playing from the computer. The Video is supplied by a stand alone webcam that has the built in mic turned off. The mixer I was using was software based, but the software keeps crashing, so wanted to use an external audio interface like Scarlett i414 which has midi in and out. Apologies if this is already on UA-cam somewhere.
just starting off with efnote 5 on cubase. I have some projects running on 44hrz doesn't the module support this? how would you recommend dealing with this situation ?
How to use with Reaper or other DAWs on Mac:
-- Connect USB (No extra drivers or software install needed. MacBook does not need Apple M1 chip, also works fine with Intel chip MacBooks)
-- Apple > System Preferences > Audio = Make sure Input is set for EFNOTE
-- Apple > System Preferences > Security & Privacy > Privacy > Microphone = Add Reaper (or your other DAW) to this list (This setting is the missing piece of instructions!)
-- In Reaper, go to Options > Preferences > Audio > Device, and select EFNOTE as the Audio System
-- In Reaper, set up each track's input source as usual to match your Audio Pad output settings in the EFNOTE (similar to as shown in this video)
I recently bought the efnote 3 module and hi-hat and I can't find a way to record the hi-hat's cc4 in MIDI, yet it plays perfectly in the module but no recording in Reaper of this cc4. I forgot to specify that I am connected in usb. Should I prefer midi connections?
I have a MacBook Pro, and Logic Pro X. I tried both the 5-pin DIN midi out cable from the module back (by 5-pin to USB-C cable), and the micro USB connection on the side. Should they function the same? MacBook Pro doesn't see the EFNote 5X as an input. Also, what exact audio routing settings needed on the module, should I change something there? I have no midi, or audio on the Macbook side (through the USB outs). Preferences mic. is allowed on settings. What should I do? Thank you.
Thanks for your question. The cable needed for USB Audio and USB MIDI is a Micro USB to USB 2.0(High Speed). in you DAW settings, make sure that both your input and output options are sent to EFNOTE. Also in your mac System Preferences, make sure input and output are set to EFNOTE. Do not use the 5 pin DIN cable and USB MIDI at the same time. If you're using the 5 pin DIN for MIDI, a simple midi cable from the EFNOTE output to whatever DIN input setup you have should work, an interface with MIDI In/Out and whatever MIDI host you're using.
can you go USB into an audio interface & then out of that to have 8ch sent separately to your sound board?
Also, i already got my EFNOTE5!!! But do i need an interface to record? Or just the plug and play using logic pro will work? I got the scarlett focusrite. But if audio interface is not needed i will have to return it so i can save some bucks.
No interface needed, ping! the EFNOTE module is the interface. Congrats on getting the kit! Michael
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica great!! And what exactly usb cable i needed to get to connect it to my mac?
@@pingvalenzuela1798 micro USB to USB 2.0 (High speed)
If I am using this with my interface, would I need to create and aggregate device of the efnote + my interface to make it work? I only have my interface as the input but will sometimes record live jams.
Hi AC, If you want to use the all 8 channels of USB from the EFNOTE, they are fixed to input channels 1 - 8, so if you want to record more channels than that simultaneously, your second interface is going to have to be able to send from channel 9 on up. That or is you want to use 2 or 4 channel sends from the EFNOTE, you'll have more channels open for other instruments, depending on your secondary interface.
Hello.
I’m curious as to why you added the neo soul kit to 8. Is the extra kit needed?
I’m brand new to recording, forgive my ignorance LOL
Thank for your question and no apology needed! i used it in this video for two reasons. One was to show it as an option, as all of the other audio tracks coming from the drum were USB Audio and not USB MIDI. The second reason was to show the blending in of the VST to the sound of the EFNOTE drums, as it's a great easy option to expand the sounds just by plugging and playing.
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica thank you for the information!
What is the latency like when recording the 8 outputs? Would it be possible to use the daw monitoring to listen to the 8 outs while playing?
Nevermind, Answered by the video my bad!
I cannot find a way to connect my Ef note 3X kit. I connect via USB to my PC. Reaper recognizes it. Then, it momentarily works, but the sound keeps cutting off and lagging. Can have the correct sound to the traks. This happens everytime. Idk what to do.
thanks for the video! im noticing that with logic (and ableton) that the edges of my hi hat do not register, in fact none of the edge zones of my cymbals register. any ideas?
Hi divincijoe, assuming you're using the kit as a MIDI controller, you have specific MIDI notes that are on pg 12 of your Reference Guide here: artesia-pro.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/EFNOTE-Reference-Guide.pdf
You can also change your MIDI send notes with Zone editing. If you need further help with this, email me at mikeb@artesia-pro .com
Have a great day!
Hi, I have the same issue in Logic Pro X when the drum kit designer is pointing to "GM". Choose here "v-drum". Now the edge zones of the cymbols works. BUT! The mid tom and low tom are both assigned to the mid tom. So the both sound similar.
Did you managed to solve your issue in the meanwhile? If yes, how?
Hi there,
I can’t get logic to recognize the Efnote. I’m running mini usb to the Mac, it just doesn’t seem to see it. Any ideas?
LOVE the Efnote! It’s been a total game changer in the house.
Hey Winston, email me at mikeb@artesia-pro.com and we'll get you sussed. Glad you're liking the kit!
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica Hi, I’m also having trouble having my Mac recognize my efnote 7 kit. My Mac has macOS Monterey 12.6. Can i please get help also? Is there a support area for this? Thanks.
@@SceneOfRobots Hi SceneOfRobots, Yes, email me at mikeb@artesia-pro.com and I'll take care of you. Make sure you're using a Micro USB to USB2.0 (High Speed) cable, when connecting to your Mac.
This is a total noob question but I am on the verge of getting the 3x and I don’t fully understand what 8 channels of audio means. The 3x has 10 pads, and what if you expand and add pads? Does that mean some of the channels will have more than one of the instruments on it?
Hi Stanley, all questions are good! What it means is 8 channels of Audio outputs to route however you like. In recording, usually your overhead mics are capturing multiple cymbals, and even though they are capturing drums, they are EQ'ed toward high and mid frequencies, because that's what cymbals are producing. You then use the close mics on toms to get the needed fullness with EQ.
So when recording a 3X into a DAW like protools or Logic Pro X, here is a great way to do your output routing from the 3X.
1. kick
2. snare
3. hi hat
4. tom 1
5. tom 2
6. toms 3 and 4
7-8. (stereo) cymbals (pan your stereo image in the module then send to the DAW)
I have the efnote 5 connected via USB to a Mac and I am also using logic pro x. I did the same settings you showed in the Video but the audio tracks 1-7 do not get any Input. They remain silent. Only the Software Instrument track is working. I dont know what is wrong
Hi Gerry, do. your output routing settings on your EFNOTE match the input routing in logic?
the audio routing pad settings (at 0:50) doesn't look the same as mine, and the toms' channels only move in a group of 2. How can I fix this?
tap any input and turn the knob. It first moves in stereo, then moves in mono.
Is this the same/similar for recording with Garageband on a Macbook?
Hi Jared, from the EFNOTE side, yes. From the GarageBand side, it is similar but not the same, as GB is the little brother to Logic pro. Apple support has how-to pages to help with multitrack recording in GB here: support.apple.com/guide/gara...nd5f260581/mac
hey guys I need some help. no matter what routing I use on the ef-note 5 module, Hihat and snare drum appear also on channels 1+2. I can't get a proper channel separation this way... using cubase 10. any help ?
In your module, select Menu > Settings > AUDIO PAD and make sure your kick and snare channels are set to mono 1 and mono 2. the Value knob scrolls both mono and stereo. If you have layered your kick or snare, you have to also make sure the second layer is mono as well, by staying in the AUDIO PAD page and selecting PAD on the left. Then select VP1 or whatever Virtual Pad you're using to layer, and route it accordingly.
how i can get my brothers efnote 5 to connect to an audiointerface so i can jam with the guitar or bass or mic on logic at the same time? Help is appreciated.
Thanks for your question Marcelo. You can go into an interface a few different ways. 2 ch analog, 4 ch analog, USB 2 ch, 4 ch or 8 ch Audio and USB MIDI at the same time. your interface just needs to have enough available channel inputs to line in all of the channels. A simple 4 channel interface can accommodate 2CH of EFNOTE and bass and guitar on ch3 ad ch4.
Thank you for the reply, i have an audient id4 mkii which has 2 inputs, is there any way i can make it work with that?
@@MarceloMichelliif you used a male to male splitter (2 mono male on one end, 1 stereo male on the other) you can use line level CH1-2 out of the module and sum them down to the stereo male end going onto the audient id4 mkii . (this will be a mono drum track). Then us CH2 on your interface for the other instrument cable. That's not really an optimal way to do this but it can be done. In order to be able to separate instruments into tracks, you need available channels on the interface. So a 4 channel mixer would accomodate 2 channels of drums, bass or guitar and 1 mic.
anyone know how to setup using reaper?
sir，i cant find driver on mac system，just for windows ，help ， i have no idea about recording through logic and efnote5
Hello, no worries. EFNOTE does not need drivers with Mac. Just plug-and-play. you'll have to select 8 channels on logic, then make sure output routing on module is set to 8ch of output.
I have a question, does 8-input USB only work with GarageBand and Logic for macos? I can't run on Reaper, Ardor, Live Lite ...
It works with any DAW. If you're running a PC, you'll need to install ASIO drivers. Which kit do you have?
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica MacBook Air :) Garage Band ok, other programs on the mac do not record any sound. They play well but don't record. I don't use Windows PC
@@drumbient472 The EFNOTE module is an audio interface, so any DAW that can record multi-channel can record 8 channel from the module. you are 8 channels on the DAW side, including setting your input routing, then match that routing with your module's output routing.
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica i thought so but it doesn't record audio in other daw. I did a software update, maybe there is a bug. It also records very quietly, the max raise is 6db?
@@drumbient472 Set you Mac audio in System Preferences as EFNOTE for both input and output, and monitor through your headphone jack. As far as other DAWs, if they can accept an 8CH interface, it will work. Your settings have to be correct inside the DAW for it to work.
Does this work for Pro Tools as well.. Can you combine an external interface with this USB interface?
Hi Brado, yes, the module is compatible with Mac or PC and works with any DAW that allows a multi channel interface. Can you give more detail on the external interface question? What signal flow are you asking about?
I have the same question regarding the interface. How to set up the efnote if I don't want to record isolated drums but in a previous mixing session that was recorded using other interface.
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica Ok got it.. so aggregate interfaces in pro tools should show the EFnote as an USB interface? I have 16 channels of thunderbolt interface into pro tools now and want to add the 8 channels of USB from the Efnote drums (when I get them) lol
@@bradodrummer5859 The 8 channels of EFNOTE are fixed to send to 1 - 8, and can not be reassigned to 17 - 24, just so you know. You're DAW will only recognize them as 1 - 8.
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica hmmm... head scratcher now.. so in a professional pro tools studio, how would i use the 8 channels from efnote for drums and the rest for other band instruments? I haven't had to use the pro tools aggregate feature, but I assume that's how it would be done?
I cannot find a way to connect my Ef note 5 kit. I connect via USB. Logic Pro X recognizes it. Then, it momentarily works, but the sound keeps cutting off and lagging. Then, it disconnects. This happens everytime. Idk what to do.
Hey Matt, we lost all of our comments and responses when we transferred our brand account, sorry. i'm just checking back to make sure this is resolved! Michael
SAME PROBLEM HERE!
Is it possible to connect USB out with an adapter straight to a smartphone for recording a video with the efnote audio?
Tried it with Garageband on an iPad and it accepted Audio and MIDI. Macs in general don't need drivers installed, but PCs do, so I doubt it on non Mac phones. It needs a daw to be a USB MIDI host as well. I would just go in analog stereo into a non Apple phone.
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica Thank you for the reply, I actually would be using an iPhone. Would the native Camera App automatically picks up the USB audio from the EfNote, or would it only work on an app such as GarageBand?
@@bubbiesadventures Yes, you would need a DAW like Garageband to accept the audio. What you could do though, is go stereo out from the 1/8" headphone jack to the iPhone's 1/8" to Thunderbolt dongle, and capture with the native cam, just like a mic.
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica I think that would work, but that means I won't have the headphone jack to be able to monitor what I am hearing/playing
@@bubbiesadventures Uses a splitter from the headphone jack. One goes to headphones, the other to the dongle.
How do I connect my efnote 5 to superior drummer 3
In SD3's presets, you can start with the ATV settings. For our MIDI Send info, go to pg 12 in the reference guide. The reference guide is in the DOWNLOADS tab at the bottom of this page.
artesia-pro.com/products/ef-note-5-drums/
Can this same thing be done in GarageBand?
Yes, for the most part, of course with less options in GB.
For some reason my computer doesn't recognize when I plug it in via midi
I figured it out using usb to micro USB what does this update do for me. Will there be added sounds in the future
Have you guys not made a video on how to connect to Windows/Cubase? I'm getting weak signals from both MIDI and Audio... And frankly also feeling a bit offended if you have only made a MAC instruction... It's not mentioned in the user guide either.
can us give us tutorial using Studio One please?
Thanks for your question. You would treat the EFNOTE module like any other 8 channel interface with Studio One, for the most part. If you're running it on PC, you'll need to install EFNOTE's drivers, for the module to be able to send multitrack, otherwise, it will only go into the DAW stereo. You can find drivers and other support tools at ef-note.com/support/support.html
whatz ya phone number??? by tupac. isn't it? great playing :)
Hey Jacopo! Yes, tupac sampled this song for that jam. It's called "777-9311" by Morris Day and The Time. Produced and written by Prince and David Garibaldi programmed that hi hat part. I've only seen one other drummer (Jrod) play all 4 parts (including the clap) correctly. Thanks for checking! Michael