I had the jump out of gear issue on my 08 Jeep Wrangler. 1rst gear was the problem. When taking off from a stop it would jump into neutral. When off roading in 1rst the same problem except sometimes it would jump into neutral as the motor revved to get over obstacles. Installed the B&M shifter and it resolved the JOG problem. I'm not saying it will fix the JOG issue for everyone but it did for me. When I pulled out the stock shifter I noticed there was no locking in 1rst to neutral. Almost as if neutral and 1rst were the same gear. With the B&M I can feel a positive lock into place for every gear. It's also a tight shifter with less play between gears instead of the sloppy long shifts of the factory wrangler shifter. Great product!
For anyone watching this, you absolutely do not need to drop the gas tank like that. The two bolts for the gas tank skid will be removed from the cross member, then after removing the crossmember bolts, it easily slides out to the driver side.
Okay if you have a 2017 Jeep and up idk what year it starts but they have changed the gas tank.. it does not go down as far as you need it to in order to fit the doughnut foam piece around the shifter also the shifter stuck up a little higher then the stock one and it was banging on the metal fire wall making a knocking noise when I started the car and started moving. I fixed this by looking where it was touching and used a Dremel to cut a little bit of the metal off on both sides. Overall a lot more work behind the scenes then the video shows and everything is not that easy to take off like the plastic shift knob… broke mine but the b&m shifter is a lot nicer
Agreed. Installing the foam isolator on my ‘16 was an absolute bear. I probably spent an hour fighting the isolator trying to get it in. No go. I ruined the replacement unit and had transmission banging as well. New isolator on order and try install again.
@@gillafunk My OG isolator was destroyed during the removal of the trans for the clutch and hydraulic bearing job I was also doing. The replacement isolator I got in advance is hard as a rock. Ordered another one. It too is hard. How or where do I get a good soft one that I can actually install without it crumbling?
Is there no way possible to squish that rubber isolator up through the interior, and then back, the same way, without dropping the skid plate, gas tank, trans, and cross-member?! That seems like a ton of extra work, requiring a lift or a lot of hard work, on your back with the Jeep on jack stands?
We do recommend following the instructions to ensure that the shifter is installed correctly and functions properly. Although we have heard of some customers being able to install the unit without removal of the other major components. If you have any additional questions, or would like to discuss this shifter in greater detail, feel free to give us a call at 707-544-4761. -B&M Team
So...I'm in the middle of this install at the time of this reply...I got the old one out no problem, however the new shifter is bigger and seems almost impossible to squeeze the new seal around the new shifter without that 4 inches of space. I will say this, It's been an adventure and the hardest part is this stupid $20 foam piece...It's not bad...you can do it. Cheers!
@@XxsteamerxXdid you get it without going underneath the vehicle. I’m about to do this install soon and trying to get all the information I can and go about the easiest way. Thanks.
@@wesleycampbell1613 Nah. I did mine during a bigger project: clutch and flywheel replace. I figured I'd do everything that required pulling the tranny so I'd only have to do it once. The original was almost fused to the shift tower so I had no choice but to rip it out. I ordered the first isolator before starting anything. Decided to order the Lynx sport shifter from Quadratech ($200 cheaper than B&M). And when it came time to reassemble everything, that's when I discovered how hard the cheaper eBay isolater was. They tried to convince me it would be fine I said it's harder than Granny's week old oatmeal cookies. Then I ordered one from Amazon. Dang it, same thing. So I decided to go to the dealer and order one. Finally it's soft. But yeah I Souray had the tranny lowered so...
I have bought 2 of those gray seal gaskets and they are both hard as a rock. I can't use either one of them because they would crumble during installation. Is there a way to soften them or is it no good and I need to get another one? How do I know if I am ordering one that is not hardened? I may have to go over to the stealership on this one.
The sad thing is this video is from the manufacturer. I would expect the person representing their company online to give a torque spec and not say 'really tight'
Hi, This shifter functions the same as the factory shifter with shortened throws and higher detent spring pressure to prevent the vehicle from disengaging itself from gear. If you have any additional questions, or would like a personalized product recommendation, feel free to give us a call at 707-544-4761. -B&M Team
Question If you just plan on replacing the foam isolator with a new one, can you skip dropping the fuel tank and transmission? The average person doesn’t have access to a lift like you have. Thanks for the video
I tried doing this and wasn't able to drop the new foam isolator in from the top. Instead, I cut a slit on the passenger side of the foam isolator and installed it from the driver's side of the vehicle. Then, I connected it back together using some black RTV silicone. Time will tell how well this holds up, but I'm really not worried about it.
@@zachjoi7965 any video or picsof that? Ive got a ton of armor, the whole underside is basically covered in bolted up 1/4" steel, and would love to avoid removing it to drop trans and tank... Any more info would be great on this thanks!
My wife has a 2015 jeep jk with the 6 speed. Great video. Her jeep jumps out of 4th gear. I'm going to order one today to fix this. The jeep grinds sometimes going into 5th gear. Will this B&m help resolve thst issue to?
I have a 2015 jk with 6 speed. I installed this B&M shifter over the weekend. Unfortunately Mopar has updated the foam seal to something more like firm styrofoam and it's not compressible at all. I had to cut one out of a piece of dense foam I ordered off Amazon. ua-cam.com/video/RHPMg9C4J0w/v-deo.htmlsi=A99DOmgFgoYsHiJp
Was there an update on what parts were included with this shifter? The one I ordered recently came with a rubber gasket for the shifter mounting surface on the transmission, and neither the instructions or any install reviews online mention the gasket. Is it a change that replaces the step to use and apply silicone sealer?
Mine wont sit properly on the transmission when I put the shifter on top of the transmission. No matter how I try to put it in it seems like one side is higher than the other side.
There can always be an underlying issue that a new shifter will not alleviate, only a repair professional can perform an inspection and get you a solid answer for your application. When we designed the B&M Racing Precision Sport Manual Shifter not only has shift throw been reduced by 35% over the factory throw the detent pressure has been significantly increased creating a noticeably stiffer shift feel. This was done to address problems with the softness of the factory shifter detent springs which easily pop out of gear while off-roading. We have had nothing but excellent reviews for the Precision Sport Manual Shifter since its introduction and one of the comments that we hear is that the shifter no longer comes out of gear. If you have additional questions please call our Support Team at 707-544-4761. - Jason @ B&M Racing
Clint mcfarland I have the same year and mine did the popping out of first and I just put in this shifter and wow want a difference. I don’t have to worry about it popping out, with that said this new shifter is tough to shift, which could be something on the inside of the transmission. I will probably be rebuilding the transmission some time soon. But for now this is working great.
I have a 2015 jk with 6 speed. I installed this B&M shifter over the weekend. Unfortunately Mopar has updated the foam seal to something more like firm styrofoam and it's not compressible at all. I had to cut one out of a piece of dense foam I ordered off Amazon. ua-cam.com/video/RHPMg9C4J0w/v-deo.htmlsi=A99DOmgFgoYsHiJp
So, if your not a very handy or a mechanically incline person and can't install yourself, this is a $700-$1,000.00 upgrade. Yeah, that really seems worth it.
Hi Adam, We understand that this shifter may not be for everyone. This shifter is designed to reduce shift-throw by 35% over the factory shifter along with increased detent pressure creating a noticeably stiffer shift feel. This was done to address problems with the softness of the factory shifter detent springs which easily pop out of gear while off-roading. If you have any questions, or if you would like a personalized product recommendation for your car, feel free to give us a call at 707-544-4761. -B&M Team
Hi Devin, At this time we are still working on acquiring an 05-06 Wrangler with the NSG370 transmission to test fitment. We apologize for the inconvenience. -B&M Team
Hi Brian, We have good news for you! We have confirmed that this shifter will also fit 2005-2006 Jeep TJ's and LJ's equipped with the NSG370 6-speed transmission.
Rewatching this video every other year cause b and m makes low quality products and im replacing the shifter rotator bolt regularly due to a crappy design flaw, don’t buy this unless u want ur jeep lookin good while not functioning
I had the jump out of gear issue on my 08 Jeep Wrangler. 1rst gear was the problem. When taking off from a stop it would jump into neutral. When off roading in 1rst the same problem except sometimes it would jump into neutral as the motor revved to get over obstacles. Installed the B&M shifter and it resolved the JOG problem. I'm not saying it will fix the JOG issue for everyone but it did for me. When I pulled out the stock shifter I noticed there was no locking in 1rst to neutral. Almost as if neutral and 1rst were the same gear. With the B&M I can feel a positive lock into place for every gear. It's also a tight shifter with less play between gears instead of the sloppy long shifts of the factory wrangler shifter. Great product!
to change the box shifter you do not need to touch anything underneath the car, everything is done from above.
“And the knob will pull right up” 🤣
Yep, still laughing...my knob broke and I had to replace it. Prying, pulling...I had to fully break it with vice grips and then twist and pull.
LMAO! Nobody would possibly know how difficult it could be to remove a plastic shift knob.
For anyone watching this, you absolutely do not need to drop the gas tank like that. The two bolts for the gas tank skid will be removed from the cross member, then after removing the crossmember bolts, it easily slides out to the driver side.
And of course you will need to remove the transmission mount nuts before the crossmember can slide out.
Good tip I was wondering about that. Thx
Okay if you have a 2017 Jeep and up idk what year it starts but they have changed the gas tank.. it does not go down as far as you need it to in order to fit the doughnut foam piece around the shifter also the shifter stuck up a little higher then the stock one and it was banging on the metal fire wall making a knocking noise when I started the car and started moving. I fixed this by looking where it was touching and used a Dremel to cut a little bit of the metal off on both sides. Overall a lot more work behind the scenes then the video shows and everything is not that easy to take off like the plastic shift knob… broke mine but the b&m shifter is a lot nicer
Agreed. Installing the foam isolator on my ‘16 was an absolute bear. I probably spent an hour fighting the isolator trying to get it in. No go. I ruined the replacement unit and had transmission banging as well. New isolator on order and try install again.
@@gillafunk My OG isolator was destroyed during the removal of the trans for the clutch and hydraulic bearing job I was also doing. The replacement isolator I got in advance is hard as a rock. Ordered another one. It too is hard. How or where do I get a good soft one that I can actually install without it crumbling?
@@XxsteamerxX honestly,mI think I simply cut the new one on one side, slid it up and used glue to reconnect it. It’s held up so far
I really enjoyed this video and learned a few things...
This fixed mine worth the money
Thanks! Need to do this on 2012 Rubicon
“Now your shifter knob will just pull _-HUFF-_ off”.
No it won’t 🫥
thanks, very informative
Is there no way possible to squish that rubber isolator up through the interior, and then back, the same way, without dropping the skid plate, gas tank, trans, and cross-member?! That seems like a ton of extra work, requiring a lift or a lot of hard work, on your back with the Jeep on jack stands?
We do recommend following the instructions to ensure that the shifter is installed correctly and functions properly. Although we have heard of some customers being able to install the unit without removal of the other major components. If you have any additional questions, or would like to discuss this shifter in greater detail, feel free to give us a call at 707-544-4761.
-B&M Team
So...I'm in the middle of this install at the time of this reply...I got the old one out no problem, however the new shifter is bigger and seems almost impossible to squeeze the new seal around the new shifter without that 4 inches of space. I will say this, It's been an adventure and the hardest part is this stupid $20 foam piece...It's not bad...you can do it. Cheers!
@@xbpbat21x That stupid piece of foam is holding up my entire project
@@XxsteamerxXdid you get it without going underneath the vehicle. I’m about to do this install soon and trying to get all the information I can and go about the easiest way. Thanks.
@@wesleycampbell1613 Nah. I did mine during a bigger project: clutch and flywheel replace. I figured I'd do everything that required pulling the tranny so I'd only have to do it once. The original was almost fused to the shift tower so I had no choice but to rip it out. I ordered the first isolator before starting anything. Decided to order the Lynx sport shifter from Quadratech ($200 cheaper than B&M). And when it came time to reassemble everything, that's when I discovered how hard the cheaper eBay isolater was. They tried to convince me it would be fine I said it's harder than Granny's week old oatmeal cookies. Then I ordered one from Amazon. Dang it, same thing. So I decided to go to the dealer and order one. Finally it's soft. But yeah I Souray had the tranny lowered so...
I have bought 2 of those gray seal gaskets and they are both hard as a rock. I can't use either one of them because they would crumble during installation. Is there a way to soften them or is it no good and I need to get another one? How do I know if I am ordering one that is not hardened? I may have to go over to the stealership on this one.
Had no choice but to pony up at the dealer. Got one delivered for $40.
You forgot one tool. Beer.
😂
I would prefer a torque spec on the bolts as opposed to "really tight"
The sad thing is this video is from the manufacturer. I would expect the person representing their company online to give a torque spec and not say 'really tight'
Exactly
Nice!!!
Does this have a gate to prevent accidental shifts into reverse?
Hi,
This shifter functions the same as the factory shifter with shortened throws and higher detent spring pressure to prevent the vehicle from disengaging itself from gear. If you have any additional questions, or would like a personalized product recommendation, feel free to give us a call at 707-544-4761.
-B&M Team
This is how my girlfriend answers yes or no questions. 😂
No reason to put gasket maker between the trans and shifter.
Hi! will this works for the Jeep KJ Liberty 3.7 gas, that came with the same NSG370 manual transmission as the TJ ?
Question
If you just plan on replacing the foam isolator with a new one, can you skip dropping the fuel tank and transmission? The average person doesn’t have access to a lift like you have.
Thanks for the video
I tried doing this and wasn't able to drop the new foam isolator in from the top. Instead, I cut a slit on the passenger side of the foam isolator and installed it from the driver's side of the vehicle. Then, I connected it back together using some black RTV silicone. Time will tell how well this holds up, but I'm really not worried about it.
@@zachjoi7965 any video or picsof that? Ive got a ton of armor, the whole underside is basically covered in bolted up 1/4" steel, and would love to avoid removing it to drop trans and tank... Any more info would be great on this thanks!
Is the 6 speed configuration of a 2005 TJ LJ with the six speed and R to the bottom R the same as the JK configuration?
My wife has a 2015 jeep jk with the 6 speed. Great video. Her jeep jumps out of 4th gear. I'm going to order one today to fix this. The jeep grinds sometimes going into 5th gear. Will this B&m help resolve thst issue to?
I have a 2015 jk with 6 speed. I installed this B&M shifter over the weekend. Unfortunately Mopar has updated the foam seal to something more like firm styrofoam and it's not compressible at all. I had to cut one out of a piece of dense foam I ordered off Amazon. ua-cam.com/video/RHPMg9C4J0w/v-deo.htmlsi=A99DOmgFgoYsHiJp
Well done video! Thanks for posting.
Holy shit $470!
Was there an update on what parts were included with this shifter? The one I ordered recently came with a rubber gasket for the shifter mounting surface on the transmission, and neither the instructions or any install reviews online mention the gasket. Is it a change that replaces the step to use and apply silicone sealer?
Mine wont sit properly on the transmission when I put the shifter on top of the transmission. No matter how I try to put it in it seems like one side is higher than the other side.
Basicly you can go ahead and Bssicly go ahead because its Basicly Easy if you go ahead and Basicly do it. Basicly go ahead..
Dude I just tripped out about him saying 3/4 ratchet and impact those are 1/2
My 2008 JK pops out of first gear unless you hold on to the shifter. Would a shifter upgrade eliminate that or is that a deeper issue?
There can always be an underlying issue that a new shifter will not alleviate, only a repair professional can perform an inspection and get you a solid answer for your application. When we designed the B&M Racing Precision Sport Manual Shifter not only has shift throw been reduced by 35% over the factory throw the detent pressure has been significantly increased creating a noticeably stiffer shift feel. This was done to address problems with the softness of the factory shifter detent springs which easily pop out of gear while off-roading. We have had nothing but excellent reviews for the Precision Sport Manual Shifter since its introduction and one of the comments that we hear is that the shifter no longer comes out of gear. If you have additional questions please call our Support Team at 707-544-4761.
- Jason @ B&M Racing
@@BMRacingPerformance thank you so much for the reply. I'm confident this should be my next upgrade
Clint mcfarland I have the same year and mine did the popping out of first and I just put in this shifter and wow want a difference. I don’t have to worry about it popping out, with that said this new shifter is tough to shift, which could be something on the inside of the transmission. I will probably be rebuilding the transmission some time soon. But for now this is working great.
@@SirClintonPaul after 4 years what is your feedback
I am experiencing the same issue , how can I contact you?
That should be 2007 up I have a 2005 and the fuel tank is in rear
Holy shit. 3/4" impact gun and or ratchet.....why so big?
I was thinking the exact same thing
I have a 2015 jk with 6 speed. I installed this B&M shifter over the weekend. Unfortunately Mopar has updated the foam seal to something more like firm styrofoam and it's not compressible at all. I had to cut one out of a piece of dense foam I ordered off Amazon. ua-cam.com/video/RHPMg9C4J0w/v-deo.htmlsi=A99DOmgFgoYsHiJp
So, if your not a very handy or a mechanically incline person and can't install yourself, this is a $700-$1,000.00 upgrade. Yeah, that really seems worth it.
Hi Adam,
We understand that this shifter may not be for everyone. This shifter is designed to reduce shift-throw by 35% over the factory shifter along with increased detent pressure creating a noticeably stiffer shift feel. This was done to address problems with the softness of the factory shifter detent springs which easily pop out of gear while off-roading. If you have any questions, or if you would like a personalized product recommendation for your car, feel free to give us a call at 707-544-4761.
-B&M Team
the flash edit/cutting/transitions are annoying. jump cuts would be fine. thanks for the thorough install.
Will it this work with a 2004 tj with a nsg370 trans??
Hi Devin,
At this time we are still working on acquiring an 05-06 Wrangler with the NSG370 transmission to test fitment. We apologize for the inconvenience.
-B&M Team
B&M Racing & Performance , I have a 2005 and am very interested in this
Hi Brian,
We should have an update for you very soon!
-B&M Team
Hi Brian,
We have good news for you! We have confirmed that this shifter will also fit 2005-2006 Jeep TJ's and LJ's equipped with the NSG370 6-speed transmission.
B&M Racing & Performance , will this help the poping out of first gear when pulling out or trail riding
Spray foam and forget about it
Your gonna give someone a seizure with the white screen flash from frame to frame
That is one fuzzy video
Please stop using fade to white transitions! It’s like a rave when he’s dropping the trans the second time!
I agree
Rewatching this video every other year cause b and m makes low quality products and im replacing the shifter rotator bolt regularly due to a crappy design flaw, don’t buy this unless u want ur jeep lookin good while not functioning