Mercury PANTHER PLATFORM Gets AP XLERATOR MUFFLERS And Walker DUAL EXHAUST
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Here are the part numbers for the Walker exhaust pipes I used:
H-Pipe- 50326
left tailpipe- 56112
right tailpipe- 56111
AP Xlerator muffler- XS1255
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I own a 2003 Marauder and did the rear cat delete. It added just a tiny bit of volume and is probably just what you need....then I think it will perfectly suit your car. Just tripped on your channel, nice to find a fellow Canadian Panther owner on UA-cam. Good video
I did eventually do just that and I’d did make a difference. Still not quite what I want so I may have to change the mufflers to something straight through!
I’ll definitely check out your channel! I’m all about supporting fellow Canadian UA-cam creators!
Thanks for stopping by and the support!
@@OldeCarrGuy my channel is more motorcycle and powerlifting as of now, but the Marauder may make an appearance.
Thanks for letting us know what you used at least. Lots of fools just post Grand Marquis dual exhaust and no details.
I meant to post the part numbers of the mufflers, but i forgot! Thanks for watching!
I like the subtle sound so long road trips and radio are not drowned out. Good job.
Precisely. Thanks for watching
Honestly sounds perfect for a daily commute or road trip cruiser, while still giving it the needed low end subtle growl of a v8. For the price I’d say you nailed it for an everyday driver Mercury
Although i live in the UK i do own a 78 and a 94 TA....the 94 runs a Borla... its fun for a while but after a long run the noise level gets a little much,
Grandma sounds great as a daily, just the hint of something special is enough to turn a head.
It is getting better each time i drive it! I appreciate your comments Simon! You should get some videos of your cars!!!
I know I'm Late to the game But I just did the Walker Cat Back Swap from single to duals. I used the Walker Sound FX #21342 &3 Mufflers and found them to be Quieter Than the Mufflers you used. :( Sooooo It's either Headers or Cat Delete for me. The Performance Gain was Subtle, More seat of the pants than sound. I also tried a cheap Air box mod and changes the snorkel inlet to a Ghetto plastic cup. Again a tiny sound change at W.O.T. and small seat of the pants yield. My 2000 MGM GS is Still Quiet! I just want to walk that fine line between MPG and Performance.
Thank You So Much for the Great Videos! It gives me Hope! LOL!
I've always said, it's not one mod that you will see a major difference in, but several mods will work together. Exhaust, air intake, throttle body spacer, intake.... Where you se the biggest instant changes is a rear gear swap and or a tune.
Keep at 'er. Thanks for watching.
@@OldeCarrGuy About the " Tune" Have you done one yet? If so witch one? And what do you think? Thanks, Steve.
@@SteveM-426 As far as I'm concerned, there's only 1 tune and that's the Marty Tune. Marty Ochs is the kink of tunes for these cars and It's the next mod on the list for Grandma.
I inherited my dad's 2001 grand marquis and it has 125 thousand kms on it.it had sat for at least 4 years before he passed.the whole front end had seized up breaking a lower ball joint.exhaust was shot.it been a labour of love to get it where it is now.when I did the exhaust I put the long chrome tips like on the marauder and left them stick out a little longer.looks very nice and sounds good too.these are great cruiser cars that last forever.hope you enjoy yours.
Thanks Jack for posting! I love hearing the story's behind the cars! I'm clad to hear you chose to keep your dad's car and make it yours. I have a whole series of videos in a playlist here of my 04 GMG. Feel free to check it out and yes I love mine! I hope to see you in future comments!
My uncle use to have a mercury car like that and he loves it
I bet he does! I love this one!
Gotta break em in to start getting a nice rumble. Love it tho keep up the great vids
Thanks Curby! It is getting better!
I always liked grandma, especially this one.
Thank you Sir! I love this one to, just don't tell my wife!
Too me it sounds good and efficient. My Grand Marquis came with factory duels as part of the HPP option. So it sounds a little better than mine.
Dude, new ram trucks do the same thing. Take off the filter and it goes all over the steering rack. Great video man!
Thanks Cappy!
Marauder exhaust with flowmaster 40's,looks the best and sound's really good it'll give you the twin chrome tips out the back you can get it after market.
I will be upgrading my mufflers very soon. No entirely satisfied with the current sound! Thanks for the tip!
Heard that setup has a lot of drone when cruising.
Absolutely none with my current setup!
Sounds perfect 👌
Tomorrow I’m getting my exhaust done so I can pass inspection.you have that car looking mint.
Thanks Sam! I hope you have a Video of it when its done!
I definitely agree on the expression on the placement of the oil filter. I am getting ready to put a remote duel oil filters from Amsoil on my 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis. I wonder how duel exhaust would effect the pollution control devices.
By the way it is a nice difference with the sound of your Mercury. I only have one pipe coming out the back of mine currently.
If done probably, like mine, it won’t effect anything. I do not have any engine lights.
I think is sounds good as is. I never thought the exhaust should be so loud that you cannot hear the engine when accelerating hard. I like to hear both.
I agree. But these may still be a bit mild for my taste. Thanks for watching.
@@OldeCarrGuy you failed at selecting the right muffler costing you labor time and money. What you needed from Xcelerator was the VX Series mufflers not them possible XS Series.
@@lanewarriorillridez3739 I tend to fail a lot! I've never heard a VX but i'm sure it offers a bit more than the ones I have!
@@OldeCarrGuy the VX series are the same exact muffler as the Flowmaster Original 40 Series because as soon as Flowmaster lost their pattened rights to that design Xcelerator were the first to copy it with the help of a former Flowmaster senior member from what I understand.
i have 06 grand marquis (flexfuel) on e85 , i have True duels (no H or X Pipe) 3 1/4 inch pipe all the way back with flowmasters and 4 inch marauder tips sounds pretty good!
Very nice!
I think it sounds great.. Mellow sound and like you said just enough growl so you know something is there👍. I'm looking to do the same type of setup, where did you purchase all the parts and what mufflers did you use?
Thanks man! I have a local supplier for these AP Performance XLERATOR mufflers but I’m pretty sure they are available at Summit!
this is how i want my car to sound
Think it sounds fine! Sleepers are where it's at.
Thanks Pete for subscribing! I really appreciate it!
No problem, looking forward to getting caught up.
That's what mine sounds like when I start it, especially when the AC or defrost is on. All my Panthers make that squeak when the compressor kicks in.
My A/C lets out a bit of a squeak when the clutch engages.
@@OldeCarrGuy that's how you know it's working. Have you had to add any freon? My gm has the coldest air I've ever felt and it's never been touched. These cars seem to have really good air conditioning and cooling systems despite the radiator only having one core.
I'd say you got it just about perfect.
The more I drive it the more I’m thinking so! Thanks Norman
I just bought a 2005 Mercury Grand Marquis LS Ultimate Edition with only 45 k miles in a mint condition from the daughter of an old church minister who bought it new and died in 2014 and left it to her with 28 k miles. I have my car in a body shop to fix a few small scratches and dents and picking it up tomorrow morning. Got the windows tinted and did a deep clean and now I’m pondering if I should put some mufflers on it or not? I don’t know, i’ll have to do a little bit more research and go from there. I posted a video of the car on my channel before I send my car to the body shop I’m about to post another video of what it looks like after I’m picking it up from the shop tomorrow so please go check it out. Love these cars and love the videos you’re putting out man👏
I’ll definitely check out your videos! Thanks for watching mine!
I used oem hangers from a 2004 P71 I found at the bone yard. The holes are already in the frame and the self tapping screws fit right in there.
We didn't have that luxury.
Ive got a '98 Vic, original exhaust was swiss cheese, so took the car to my local muffler shop.
The flanges for the rear cats were completely missing (rust / rotted away) so they got deleted.
The pipes were slightly upgraded from the original 1 - 3/4" (or is it 1 - 7/8"?) to a 2" stainless.
I got the same AP XLERATOR mufflers you did, which my shop guy said is basically a Magnaflow clone.
Also had a couple rolled edge chrome tips welded on, they extend a couple inches past the bumper, & I think they look much better than the stock downturns.
It sounds pretty sweet considering it's connected to a tired, 23 year old former squad car with 157K miles.
That's awesome. I'm very happy with mine.
Great sound, just enough. I love the look and rumble. Thanks for the video. Btw....what headers are those?
Just factory manifolds. No headers on this car! Thanks for watching.
Sounds decent to me! I am not a screaming loud guy myself. 🤙
That’s what she said! Lol thanks George!
@@OldeCarrGuy zing!!!
my grand am has that same issue, drop the filter and it gets on everything...... a little easier to reach at least on the grand am. i feel the same way i wanted the s10 louder with the flows i got but really it keeps it a sleeper when its a little quite. it does sound better from that little bit of footage when you left and the camera was at the lot probably do to the way it exits which hey its louder behind you so you can be more comfortable inside.
It is getting a bit louder over time but I do think it could stand a bit of tweaking!
Dat bitch sounds damn good to me I have a single magna flow rumble muffler took it about two months to sound deep but you will hear the progression every day
Awesome! Would love to hear that!
i like it you don't need to do anything to grandma and i know how to weld i can teach you
Exhaust clips are so hard to do on camera...though I guess I only did it once. That's perfect though for interior noise, so it's not annoying on road trips
George, the camera guy from Nicks Garage messaged me with a few tips! So I worked on a couple last night and made a post on IG!
Needs a little more growl
Agreed!
I replaced the stock single exhaust on my 03 Grand Marquis with a Walker dual exhaust system. Exact fit parts. Not right up to the cats. Sounds amazing but doesn't wake anyone up.
@@pantherplatform I replaced the single exhaust on my 03 Grand Marquis with long tube headers no cats resonators x pipe and straight through stainless mufflers
to loud? to quiet? or just right? it all depends on how old you are; LOL! car sounds good !!
100% I think it could be a touch louder, but i'm not changing anything right away!
Thanks for the video! Im just starting out with my 06 Grand Marquis and my channel and this is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Quiet, subtle, but aftermarket and better flow! My Marquis has single exhaust at the moment, came stock, so I’m sure when I double up to a dual, the free 15hp will be released. Of course not free $$$ but you know what I mean! Thanks for description and part numbers. I enjoy your content on all your Vics and Marquis! God bless!
Glad I could help!
The cats really keep these engines quiet. Even with a blower
Yes they do! I may need to change that!
I like the sound, just enough growl, but not to much. Did you ever find the part numbers for the AP Exlerator mufflers? I have the X pipe and left side tailpipe, just need the muffler part number. Thanks!
Sorry it took so long to reply, but here is the part number for those mufflers. AP Xlerator muffler- XS1255
@@OldeCarrGuy Quick update, after adding the dual exhaust, with the same mufflers, I have to admit, I'm also disappointed in the sound. Just ordered 2 AP dual chamber mufflers, going to switch them out. Did you ever do anything to Grandma to try to get a little more growl out of the exhaust? Always looking forward to your next video!
@@kenimel1383 funny you should ask! I could never get the right “grunt” without being obnoxious! I just ordered a stainless steel cat-back setup from magnaflow! There will be a video.
You could use a pipe hanger from a panther with dual exhaust. The holes are already there.
+Panther Platform yeah, but that would be too easy! Besides, a muffler clamp only cost a buck!
I like it. A little growl, but subtle.
Just the sound am looking for
Needs a little more noise I believe. Great video!!
Thanks Tony! I think I may need to do something about that!😜
That was just right
The video doesn't do it justice. It does sound good in person but i think I still would like just a bit more.
It actually sounds like my CVPI which is a lot less sound deadening that a Grand Marquis.
The answer about the oil filter on Grandma is the same as the answer about the water pump on a Sunfire GT: An engineer who will never have to deal with it
Precisely!
I love your videos man!!! Especially after you bought the Grandma because I too own one. ❤
Thanks for the continued support! I have more Grand-Ma videos coming soon!
I own an 04 merc grand marquis limited edition.... same color as grandma here..... love that car....
I see people in the comments are talking about Borla, glass packs, removing the catalytic converters, and giving the muffler's time to break in.
Nah, what it really needs is a 5 Speed Manual Row Box. Lol
Just Kiddibg.
You are determined to see a 5 speed in that car! lol!!!!
Olde Carr Auto Guy
I would have thought you'd have one in by now. Lol
Have you seen the videos on the subject by "p71c1" and "Vincent Sulak"?
With your connections I was expecting you to pick up a donor vehicle at auction for $500 or so. Say an old Mustang, or F-150 with a rusted out body, but with a sound tranny.
I dunno, I guess I over estimate the project. Boring, and reliable has it's appeal too.
Budget Panther Fan connections yes! Budget? Not really! lol I appreciate the confidence though!
@@OldeCarrGuy
A wise man once said, "Never say I can't afford that. Instead ask yourself, How can I afford this?"
Problem solved, you're welcome. Lol
What kind of wheels are those?? I like em!! Thanks for the videos!!
18” mustang wheels off a 2011!
@@OldeCarrGuy Thanks!
@@OldeCarrGuy you needed to add any spacers to those rims? Or did they bolt right up?
@@BankstonT if your car is a 2003 and newer you do not need spacers. If it’s an O2 or older, you will need spacers.
Did you notice any increase in power? The ones that came from the factory with the dual exhaust option were supposed to have some more power than the single exhaust ones. I am thinking of doing a double exhaust on my 2000 Grand Marquis.
I did notice a better throttle response but i also have a throttle spacer, and high flow air filter. they all work together.
@@OldeCarrGuy Okay, I'll have to do the exhaust mod now during spring. And also get some mufflers that sound better than the stock one on my car, it is way to quiet. I just watched the throttle body spacer video.
Needs more
Maybe someday!
Because it has both rows of the stock cats, you can remove the 2nd row with no tune,
I didn’t “remove” the cats, just “cleaned” them... if you know what I mean!
Is that a walker h pipe? Looks just like the one I put on my gm. I had to do some adjustments after I installed it because the h pipe wasn't very level.
It is a Walker Pipe. No adjustments necessary for my install. Maybe the FedEx gut tossed it!!! lol
@@OldeCarrGuy that's what I thought. I picked mine up at the hardware store. I was able to find everything locally since I was living in a huge metropolitan area. I wish I could've removed the tail pipe without cutting it in half but I didn't want to drop the rear end just for that.
I like it
Thanks Joel!
Very nice. I have a 2000 Grandma GS in need of some exhaust work. At the very least, there's a muffler gone. What do you guys catch for that kind of work up in New Brunswick?
We charge straight time on exhaust, $65/hour at our shop! $85-100 at the big guys!
@@OldeCarrGuy Funny thing is, I drove RIGHT by there a month ago on our way from Boston to PEI. We go via Calais and the Air Line. Been by your place a hundred times. Wish you guys were closer. :-)
Do you need a lift to do this or can you do it with floor jacks?
it sounds very good you think if i bring my car to your shop he will work on my car
Absolutely my friend!
@@OldeCarrGuy i'm in florida
Too quiet. I put a single in single out flowmaster 40 on mine early last year and that just wasn't loud enough. You couldn't even tell it had exhaust unless you were in the car and floor boarding it. So I had the flowmaster chopped off and had it straight piped with just a single pipe. Sounds perfect! I dont like the drone on the interstate but i dont take it more than an hour away from home so it is tolerable for now. Might could use a resonator. But all of that to say, these modular Fords sound best straight piped!
I’m right there with ya! Too quiet even after it broke in! Drone is a killer! So I may just delete the mufflers for resonators at some point! Thanks for watching!
You should've thrown on a set of chrome tips on the ends.
I suppose I could! Thanks for the suggestion!
More aggressive but low key. That suits the car just fine. It is not a Mustang.
Give the new mufflers time to break in. Yeah that oil Is a messy situation
Thanks Gary! It is getting better!
Have you changed the oil on a Hemi lately? Just as bad.
Oh I know! Crap for brains engineers who never have to work on them!
Olde Carr Auto Guy I’m going to be relocating the filter on my wife’s Ram for that reason.
Needs glass packs?
I don't think so Tim.... I mean Mike!
I'm thinking of going with Magnaflow exhaust and headers. Any ideas of what you would recommend for this particular brand? Just like you, I just want to here it, nothing to insanely loud. Just a bit subtle were the exhaust does not drown out the engine.
I didn’t go the header route yet, but may in the future! Sorry I can’t help on that one! I do have flowmaster 40’s on my Cordoba and love the sound!
I didn’t go the header route yet, but may in the future! Sorry I can’t help on that one! I do have flowmaster 40’s on my Cordoba and love the sound!
@@OldeCarrGuy know anything about powertune performance chip?
I’m guessing I’m too old school!
Hey i have a question. I am assuming you got these off of carid. It says these tailpipes are for the crown vic did they fit on the grand marquis without an issue?
They are identical cars underneath. My car is a Grand Marquis and they worked for me. You will likely have to add exhaust hangers.
@@OldeCarrGuy Yeah I have a 2003 Grand Marquis and want to switch it to dual instead of single. Just wanted to make sure it would fit. Thank you.
@@OldeCarrGuy And what diameter for the muffler did you get
That's perfect for me cause I'd like mines to sound that nice... I don't like all that loud noise sounding like thunder and lightning lmao... 🤣😆😅😂
I get it! There's a time and place for loud, obnoxious cars, but Grand Marquis aren't one of them.
Straight pipe it after the cats! Will sound like you want!
After the first cats!
I’m definitely leaning that way!
what size pipes and what are the part# on those mufflers? please reply because i have a 98 grand marquis i wanna do this to. this exhaust system is perfect for what im looking for. great sound!!
All 3 pieces I used were Walker pipes as follows:
H-pipe 50326
Left tailpipe 56112
Right tailpipe 56111
AP Xlerator mufflers
Hope this helps
@@OldeCarrGuy thanks a whole lot!!!
it"s a matter of opinion but i think it sounds great! what size pipes are these?
Thanks bud
That's the same exhaust I put on my grand marquis.
+Panther Platform awesome! Do you like it?
Where can I order one for my mgm
One question.....a dual exhaust from a crown vic. It will fit straight up on my grand marquis???.....they both 2003
Yes! But you will need to add hangers to the driver side. Thanks for watching!
i got the code p2197 and p2198 do i change all 4 oxygen sensors or just the 2 upstream sensors?
Just the ones that giving codes. No sense spending money needlessly.
@@OldeCarrGuy well i got all 4 of them for free so i might as well change all of them
I just added a h pipe and delete mufflers
Cats are so sound restrictive and you may be on to something!
Did you go back and add louder pipes or did you leave it alone?
I did go back and hollow out the rear cats!
I think the mufflers are doing what they are designed to do . Why complain?
Exactly!
It needs a bit more my friend
We’ll see how things go over the next few weeks!
Which AP XLERATOR MUFFLERS did you use? Do ya have a part number? Thanks
Hey Stan. I'll have to look it up and get back to you as I don't have that info at my fingertips. Thanks for asking and reminding me to put the part numbers in the description. Also, thanks for watching. Hope you'll consider subscribing.
@@OldeCarrGuy Okay, I appreciate it
well i should call my car project get it right lol well i want to change my muffler what would be a good muffler to buy jason
I like the ones I used in the video, but if you want something louder, go Magnaflow or Flowmaster.
@@OldeCarrGuy i love magna flow but i want something nice and mellow the grand marquis is a luxury car and i would like to keep that same mellow quiet sound instead of that loud shit. i don't want nobody to hear me creeping up the street when i'm riding lol i love my car nice and quiet.
How does it sound to you now
It sounds good, but still not quite to the level I'd like. I've heard these cars with Flowmaster 40's on them that don't sound much better than mine! I'm thinking that if I want to be able to manipulate the sound better, I'll have to remove the front catalytic converters as well.
So this is just a normal replacement duel exhaust system with a different set of mufflers?
Kinda! It’s actually making a single exhaust car a dual exhaust car!
@@OldeCarrGuy Right, but that's what you did to make that one dual exhaust? I have a vic myself that's single exhaust and have been thinking about doing this.
It really is a simple and cost effective upgrade to your CV. H-pipe, mufflers, tail pipe and a few clamps....Bingo. You got some duals.
did you change your cats as well cause i need to change mines
I hollowed out the rears but the fronts are stock!
@@OldeCarrGuy the front will stay stock until they get clogged and i change them but for now i just want to change the muffler to a stainless muffler
I've heard it can take a year for the muffler to get its sound . ?
There is a break-in period based on exhaust temps, style of driving and mileage. A year may be a bit of a stretch. Thanks for the comment.
Link to the exhaust ?
I got it from one of my local suppliers, but you can get the mufflers from summit racing, and the pipes from amazon or eBay. Muffler- XS1255, H-pipe- 50326, tailpipes w/o resonators- 56111, 56112. I hope this helps
Olde Carr Guy this is the information I’ve been looking for! I’m planning to do this setup with flowmaster super 10’s. Thank you sir
Where did u get the exhaust I’m trying to find one for a decent price but I’m having a hard time
Hey bud! My email address in in the about section of my UA-cam channel! Drop me a line or hit me up on IG or Facebook and I’ll share some part numbers!
@@OldeCarrGuy thanks so much
Love the rims
Thanks Chris
@@OldeCarrGuy Did those come off a mustang? If so, what year? Might check out my local junkyard for a set
@@chriswasson8414 These came off a 2011 Mustang 18”. Quite common to put them on panthers. 2003 and up you don’t need to modify anything!
What you put on....borla mufflers???
They are AP Xlerator Mufflers!
I never pull out
Around how much to convert a stock Mercury with a y pipe to a dual straight pipe you think?
Thomas Graham If you’re buying the pipe and doing it yourself, I think it can be done for less than $350. Even less if you don’t use mufflers!
@@OldeCarrGuy thanks for the quick reply! I'm definitely thinking of doing it. Always nice to see you're channel for Grand Marquis videos, I'm located in NB as well!
That's awesome! Which part of NB. Maritime Exhaust in Moncton is where I got my mufflers.
@@OldeCarrGuy Middle of the triangle, dairy town if ya know what I mean! & nice, I'm going up to moncton soon, I'll take a trip to Maritime Exhaust as well.
Should of went with the flow master 40s or super 10s
I agree! I still may do that in the spring!
what is your secret for growing your beard like that
Lots of time and patience. lol
@@OldeCarrGuy hey jason you need to tell my brother and my 4 sons the secret lol cause they have a lot of time and patience on their hands if you asked me lol
Yeah poke the rear cats!!!
That is a definite possibility!
Take all cats and put only 2 high-flow cats it will sounds nicer
Good call. Any recommendations on brands?
I think it sounds fantastic!
Thanks Billy!
My wife says that it is way too quiet!
Mine too. It's her daily driver now.
what city u are in i have some work that needs to be done
Hey Frederick! Thanks for the offer! I’m on eastern Canada! How about you?
Yea that doesn't sound very good at all. Did you change out those?
I didn't change them. It's my wifes daily driver now and she doesn't like it that loud. I may be doing something different on my lifted 03.
What was the cost of doing something like that
Parts weren't that expensive, and I had one of my employees help, but i bet you'd be looking at $400-500 depending on your choice of muffler.
Glass Packs would have smartened it up!!
Haha. Not trying to wake the dead Carl!
@@OldeCarrGuy Had them on the Van I sold to Jeff Muir....didn't find them too Bad!!
Sounds decent as hell...but everything sounds different on video.
Yeah! After the mufflers had time to break in they have a nice little tunnel now! Thanks for watching! New GrandMa content coming real soon!
Do a rear cat delete
Indeed! Keep watching! I do just that in a different video! Thanks for stopping by!
Not Enough
Put some serious 44 Mufflers on are you be louder
Once upon a time maybe! LOL
headers
Someday!
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