You have packed a lot of content into a short video but everything is explained very clearly. Definitely an upvote! I have played several toons up to lvl 60 in New World. I have just started ESO and have a toon up to lvl 12. I have seen enough of both to say that your comparisons are spot on. For me, as a PVE player, crafting in NW is a fun way to spend a couple of hours. ESO seems to have much more depth in terms of exploring, quests and lore.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I hope you have a good time in ESO. You have some much content to explore and a new expansion right around the corner with a new class.
Great video. I like both games a lot, but I personally like the combat and skilling in New World more. Plus New World is one of the best looking games out there. I honestly recommend both games, give them a try and decide for yourselves. :)
In ESO you need to to do a light attack weave to get high enough DPS pretty sure that's the reason why most new players get's turned off about the combat, they can't sustain a high enough DPS. Light attack weave is basically crucial specially in end game content
My issue with weaving is eso is that it looks dumb af. Eso used to be my favorite MMO, hundreds of hours, but I have more less left. Hoping one day the change the floaty combat
NW combat system is best you can get in any mmo when it comes to pvp. Its more on skill than gear based. Its easy to understand but hard to master. Devil is in details.
Should do a side by side comparison to 5 side quests. ESO vs new world. Just an average 5 quests in elder scrolls online vs an average 5 quests while trying to find some variety in quest design.
@@vadimnimarov8796 pvp for NW pve for ESO simple is that. Nw pve really borring, eso have a good pve + you can grind for pvp too so more content you have in ESO. I feel myself more like pve and trader so I play ESO. I get on pvp when I want kick some ass xD
You did not mention the most important aspect of gameplay... New world is not "targeting game" so you actually have to hit your abilities and aim with range weapons. Where in eso you just have to look in the direction of the mob/player.
I mentioned it was an action combat. So I assumed that people would know theres no targeting system. But definitely a good call out. I'll be sure to be more specific about it.
ex-ESO player here. currently NW player. I absolutely loved ESO, however their servers kept booting me off. multiple tickets with their tech dept. and nothing changed. It crushed me to quit but get in a dungeon or trial with friends and repeat boots day after day and anyone will quit playing.
the only issue i really have with ESO is the promises of bug fixes and lag fixes that still haven't happened and lack of communication with players. New World, at least when it first released, had great communication, but the bugs killed it for me. might pick it back up again if ESO doesn't at least show they're serious about the bugs this year.
I genuinely loved a lot of my time playing. But once you cross the end game thresh hold; and you take into account my comment above. Mix that with the lack of end game reasons to do older content. It makes it hard for me to spend time in a game that I really love.
This right here. Played eso since beta, 5 yrs later. I finally leave. The lightning patch screwed it up for a lot of people. Not to mention that zeni is just stacking the game on top of old code with out fixing it. So that's another issue the game has when it comes to long list of fixes that never got fixed.
I think an updated comparison video would be in order some time after the console release, and now a whole year has passed, alot can happen in a year, for both games
My man this video is GREAT! I would honestly pay to have you compare more MMOs lol You presented so much data but all of it was quality and concise! Easy sub
I'm glad you enjoyed the content. I certainly intend on doing more. And covering newer mmos as they come out. I justed started with the ones I'm most familiar with.
I have 1500 hours in new world and just started ESO, and the first thing Ive noticed is that all the NPC’s that give missions actually talk. The mission system seems much better.
Youll find that the questing experience as a whole is better imo. They tell actual stories, NPCs talk. Some stories tie into others. And the mission structure isn't just kill or fetch quest.
As a Former ESO player with 2k Hours: At the beginning, I used to Roam and explore a lot and do tons of quests and it was fun. Once you get to the end game there is no more challenge in doing that.. Once you know how to DPS, Nothing in doing quests out in the open areas is challenging.. if you love the Lore - by all means explore as much as you want. If you are looking for some challenge there is no point in exploring ( At least for me ). The real Fun ( Again, for me) is all the Dungeons and trials this game has to offer. They are extremely mentally challenging and require a lot of precision and communication with your team
I feel like one game is just on the threshold of rising and the other were watching its fall. Hybridization ruined any semblance of unique feeling to mag/stam differences. I trust NW developers more than ESO. Main issue I have with NW is i have no attachment to the weapons. It doesnt feel like a big enough difference. I prefer classes that make characters different. Weapons give zero reason for replayability.
I think the ability to wield different weapons is what gives you the replayability to see how things work with one another. And i think that will increase the longer the game goes on and more weapons come out. Im indifferent between weapons and classes. my only thing is that i would love to see the weapon trees continue to expand. or maybe even add in some additional combos or something like that to give it more robust options. Because as of right now i don't think the abilities or perks weapons offer is enough.
I agree the game still feels very much underwhelming. However i do think the potential for the game is very high if they stick with it and make sound decisions
I wish I went the pc route so I could try new world. I'm an xbox pvp player on eso and the changes the devs keep making are so frustrating. I often feel New World would fill that gap
Yeah my main progression on eso is tied to Xbox as well. So I feel you. I really wish there was cross progression. But from here on out all my mmo games or mmo-likes will be played on PC for me.
Same here put it about 1.2k hours on eso xbx..just build a new pc and thinking about to jump new world looks very interesting.pc really makes gaming range wider..
i think he done new world dirty saying there "nothing to do in the world" there is tons if resources to gather, fishing hunting, ancient ruins and villages to clear mobs out of etc. and there is groupish events, clearing corrupted zones mini bosses and elites, open world pvp if your flagged 🤷♂️
Parse DPS req for harder Dungeons killed ESO for me, i like NW more, and i like world, combat and crafting. (I almost completed all zones in ESO when i used to play it.)
I've seen many people saying ESO is great and a worthy addition to the franchise, but I have trouble jumping into MMO games because of the time investment and sometimes the money investment. Never even heard of New World but it does at least look interesting. Great video man!
@@isaacladell2559 you are obv a NW hater, the playerbase isn’t dead, the game is a waste of time yet you’ve been playing since launch? 🤡. Wouldn’t be playing it if it was that bad
ESO is the only MMO I jump into from time to time, because I like the solo content that it provides. I'm a very casual player because I have many other things going on as well so I often play it in very short bursts. You can play for free (aside from paying for the base game but when it's on sale, it's not an awful lot of money and there is a ton of content included) but I do think that a subscription in ESO is worth the investment and it's very easy to activate/cancel it from your account. I could feel like playing ESO for a bit - I activate a montly sub - and when I feel like I want to switch to another game and will probably leave ESO alone for a while, I cancel my sub again and the monthly payments stop.
Im sure if you do the same video in one year the summary of content pve pvp speaking will overwelm ESO. Nw have the most in depth and dificult pvp gameplay of all mmo history so imo is the most fun to play
I played ESO for a while, but I couldn't get over the almost grainy look of the screen. Thats one of the reasons I play New world, as its easier on the eyes in my opinion.
I completely agree it's not a bad-looking game at all. Especially some of the later expansion zones like elsweyr. That was one of the zones that really stand out to me.
I have friends who play new world and I have been an eso player for years. I just feel like I can always delve deep with eso and new world seems to be a quick fix. This is all personal experience and preference
I was thinking you were gonna make praising one, shitting on other style video but you explained it really well with almost all of their basic aspects. Great video
I can definitely see that. If they flesh out their pve and continue adding to pvp. I personally think the game should go free to play to bring in a huge influx of characters.
@@passman36 agreed good game but they haven’t added any PvP content since launch and the player base is so low on most servers that you can’t get into any expeditions or PvP content
@@isaacladell2559 yeah a game like this is basically centered around having a player base. So they should be doing whatever they can do add more players.
Totally agree with you @Rubens the developers have been very transparent with their frequent videos on the state of the game. Even though the important changes are taking a while, it does seem that they are listening to what the community is asking for. Often times, we forget that NW is still a newer MMO. To be a good game like it is while still being new, is a great sign…. I’m just imagining if they continue to refine the game, how greater it can be.
I've liked ESO for ! Sadly though, it does get very boring due to the combat, which is really sad to see since the stories are impressive. Over time though, they eventually do become repetitive. Since the combat in NW is more advanced, I feel overall that it's really more fun because every encounter is a fresh fight.
I think you forgot to mention innnew world heartrune which is like an ultimate Also you can remove the root from using Abilities or dodging Not sure how far you went into the PvP In new world but some abilities can be dodge by crouching or jumping
I love the surface level discription. Im a casual gamer and dont need to ve bored to death with the intense deatailig some UA-camrs offer. Keep it up man. I enjoyed it
As NW PvP veteran I can tell you few things: PvP is not that hard, its easy to master if you have hands but a lot of people just dont have it and they are bad even in the game where you have only 6 skills. Combat system is nice but balancing is awful. OPRs are bad - last time there is bow and musket spam and its OP af. For about 1 year the only good content worth logging in for me was siege and we had at least few of them per week. I played this game from release, I didnt log in since few last days and to be honest if u are looking for nice MMORPG then I dont recommend this game, doesnt matter if PvE or PvP player, its not about burnout or being toxic its just advice to save your time, ESO, GW2, WoW, FFXIV is just better
You did a really great job of summing it up. New World has better environmental effects, better combat, better open world gathering. ESO has better questing and lore. Superficially, New World looks and feels better, but below the surface, ESO seems like a fundamentally more meaningful experience. Comparing New World to ESO is like comparing The Lord of the Rings to the Bible. One may be more entertaining, but the other is more of a classic.
Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed. I agree with everything you said. If new world can get better questing sand stories and the sheer amount of content combined with new worlds visuals and gameplay it’ll be amazing
I think new world has the potential to be a better game. Lets not forget ESO had a rough start as well but after years of development and content eso improved. As the current state of both game, i feel eso has more content to offer whereas new world end game activities are still very lackluster but this is OF COURSE because eso came out years before. If we compare what they have TODAY eso is the better game.
Right now im currently on a break from new world until more substantial content gets released. I agree with you I think the potential for new world is much higher than where eso is today. But currently, I think eso is the better game and has tons of content to keep you busy for a while. New world just doesnt have that content depth yet. And it probably wont for a while. But its something about growing with a new mmo that i personally like. Only thing i think new world is doing better than eso is the crafting/gathering systems and the combat. and one could argue maybe pvp if your into that. I hope this helps.
Yea mounts behind a paywall suck. As far as pet classes those are among my favorite. I just cant see new world adding something like that. As far as im concerned i think the way weapons and stuff feel can be underwhelming. Id love for them to add to there current weapon trees to give people more options
You forgot to include Cyrodill in the pvp segment. New world doesn't have and I bet it probably won't ever have something remotely similar to cyrodill.
Ahhh yes your absolutely right. But I think your right. I would like to see a siege type pvp format in new world as I think it would fit in perfectly. But one I don’t think they have the player base for it. And I think they want their main attraction for pvp to stay the faction wars for zones.
Everything said I agree with. I love NW and the Devs do listen, but ESO is more fleshed out. Plus I wanna upgrade my rig this winter so right now ESO is still graphically better for me, but the combat of NW is outrageously fun! It is just so fluid and not at all clunky. Edit: And NW is on Steam only and I just don't like Steam. :/
Still waiting on an open-world PvP game without having any flags. I like the idea of questing with danger lurking around the corner. But people are Whiners and crybabies so it will never happen again 😂.. they need to make a dedicated PvP server for dedicated PvPers.
Yeah unfortunately I don't think a mmo like that will reach mass popularity because of people who grief. I feel like the closest thing to that is Albion online. And that's a popular one....just not on the level of ESO, GW, FF and a few of the other major mmos that are popular
I play NW loyally, but I wanted to give ESO another go recently, as I heard about the new class. My character was maxed out years ago and there has been some changes. I was going to start over. After getting in game playing my old character I was alright let’s do this. Then a light bulb went off about ESOs worst worst feature, and it stopped me from playing. The guild a trade post auction system in ESO is garbage!! Soo hard to max gear your character if you have to use a 3rd party website to find out what town and and guild vendor to go too. Such a horrible system.
Crafting progression in NW feels great, but you're bound to be disappointed when you reach "Mastercrafter" status. It is basically gambling. You can spend anywhere from 50-100k on crafting resources and get next to nothing. No one wants to buy mediocre purple gear so the only way to make a profit is to get lucky and roll legendary gear, but getting legendary means nothing unless you roll the perfect perks. My last roll was for 5 rapiers, of which I spent 40k crafting. I received ZERO legendaries. Basically a weeks worth of income just flushed down the drain. INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING. Don't play NW for the crafting system.
personally i prefer ESO but hate pay to win in games to the point that it is a bit of a turn off, i wish ESO had new worlds cosmetic only model but i guess it just nets less money
I have played both including many other mmorpg. I personally like ESO the content is vast and so many zones/gear/things to do I find myself always going back to ESO in the end... but man they need to put crafting bag on store for 3k crowns. I only sub for the crafting bag. I try to make it with 1 bag but I always give up and sub. ESO has flavor it has so much content you don't even need the sub when you start playing because you will be kept busy for awhile with non DLC content. If you don't plan to craft or gather then yeah sure you don't need that bag. And in ESO you won't even behind anyone because I see hundreds of other players today still doing the base game launch content, because 1 it's still good, 2 it still gives good rewards. What I will say about new world is it looks pretty but game felt bland and after playing it once I have never felt need to return. I still feel no need to return and I gave up last year reading content updates because new world never reached the game I wanted. I liked combat in new world when I first started but it didn't keep me entertained long because it just wasn't enough.
Well, I will say new world is putting a lot more effort into their PVE side of things with raids etc coming. I would say check back with the game around sept-oct when their next expansion drops
Really? Why is that? I only asked because the amount of content new world has at endgame is a lot less. Is it the quality of how the dungeons feel. The crafting. Or is it PvP for you?
The eso store is horrible, new content is behind credit cards. That is why stop playingit, new world have a better monetization so im betting for the new kid
I agree I'm not very fond of ESO store. And I hope new world continues what there doing. But I can't help but wonder if they will ever give in especially if the player base doesn't grow.
@@Amayi1 No, you can make it objective. New World doesn't have the refined systems and detail that an 8+ year old game has. It objectively has way less lore, way less open world, way less itemization/gearing etc that's not a varying opinion. ESO has 8+ years of added DLC it's whole world is insanely more larger than New World. There is no comparison because it's not a fair time period.
ESO is on it's way out, buy to play, sub model for non casuals, and monetized progress with an abundant use of time gates, will deter new and annoy the current player. New World is doing a non traditional model of no sub and bare bones monetization through a slim pickings of cosmetics, so New World might be on the way out before it can potentially get good.
I think something that could help is allowing people to earn crowns with in game curreny. But I doubt the devs would do something like that. I imagine it would be a huge loss for them.
Sure, ESO has pay to progress, at this point with over 9 years they are welcomed if you making a new toon or hero. They are 100% optional. My first main character has done everything the king way so it’s completely possible.
That's completely fair. As youve put in that time and grind. But for new comers that may be a turn off. But in general it's hard to find any MMO without pay for progression if we're being honest. So I feel like most people should expect it.
@@passman36 when first introduced people were barking pay to win. Now many years later to just be able to get new toon to level 10 in the mages guild with a button press, heaven. Some of the guilds and crafting grind is months. Great video by the way.
I suppose I'm very old school. I don't get the p2w, microtransaction, and subscription mentality. I prefer to own a game rather than renting post-purchase. If this will be the future of gaming...then like politics, you pick the lesser of two evils and learn to settle.
As of now the devs said they have no plans. But I could totally see it coming personal the game is not button intensive so controls wouldn’t even be a issue
Thank you for your review and analysis. Neither of these look and/or sound better than BDO so no need to experiment for me. I am awaiting the Nightingale and Chrono Odyssey launches to see what they are like.
Yeah id say the main difference with these from BDO is that they have a bit more PVE content. But if your coming from BDO to these games combat will be very underwhelming for sure.
@@passman36 Thank you Sir. I have a dilemma of being 64 and still a gamer. I love the idea of an MMO, but at this point, I have pretty much seen and done it all. And everything repeats and for a large extent, doesn't change - there's no innovation. And that is exactly what I am hoping for with each new crop of releases and am continually disappointed. Absolutely the graphics get better (and the hardware to display them), but when it comes to what we all do inside each game...well developers seem to have hit a creativity wall and all we, the gamers, get are prettier and prettier versions of the same old song.
@@stephenschroeder6567 Its all good Gaming knows no age. I plan to game till my hands fall off. But I understand your pain. As someone who loves MMOs primarly its sad to see the state that they are in. The crazy part about it is that these new MMOs have so many other games they can use as resources but they dont, And thats why they generally dont last.
@@ACamaroGuy yeah I think it would be a perfect fit for consoles. The game requires less input than eso. And I think it would inject so much needed cash for the game.
I played ESO since 2014 Beta. I am on a hiatus from ESO over the last 2 months. I have been playing New World for about a month now and I enjoy it. I remember the issues ESO had in the first couple of years. I also remember the issues ESO created after fixing some things and then breaking others as a result. ESO's strength is the variety of classes, races, weapon types. ESO's weakness is the variety of classes, races, weapon types and how you are pigeon holed by them. New World does not require you to pick race for perks. You get those based on how you play. Leveling in New Word IMO is easier. The environment and materials farming in New World is superior to ESO. You chop a tree down not pick up a log on the ground. The fishing is better in New World. As a new player to New World I have not PvP'd yet. But PvP'd in ESO since April 2014. I have two ESO accounts and so I know about ESO PvP. It needs improvement. And like someone said, in ESO gear does most of the work, some will disagree and I know of people who are really good no matter what they wear in PvP. If it's more skill in New World than gear I will be happy. In ESO Cyrodiil PvP needs to be redone. Actually, ESO as a game needs to be rebuilt from scratch with a more up to date API like Vulkin. ESO needs to include the ability to go under water and and New World needs to allow you to swim. Why would NW allow players to go underwater but not swim makes no sense. I can go on and on. ESO is good but long in the tooth and way over due for a game rebuild. Not patching but fresh new coding and game engine, as it's almost 10 years old. Technology exists now that would make ESO WAY better now. New World is a young game with a major tech support. It should age well if the devs stay on top of things and the game listens to players. I have heard of people leaving and coming to New World. A lot of those coming into New World are from ESO like myself that seems to give the game a little refresher of player base.
Strong projection. New World is so unpolished. ESO doesn't need to be rebuilt from scratch what lunacy is this lol? It has by far one of the best ever lores in an MMO and open world. Insane single player value too even without the 8+ years of DLC which will give you way more time. It's incredibly easy to level what are you on about? All the daily bonus XP, events, farming mobs, you can be level 50 in a day. They also put a softcap on unslottable passives so as a new player you're maybe a few weeks behind in CP farming only - CP farming is a joke too, can easily get 50 a day. Gearing is also way smoother with sticky book system, and that most builds don't even need trial gear so you can just farm normal dungeons and be geared out in a week. Sounds like you're burned out.
@@Despond I'm projecting? So, what is your point, that you disagree with my view points, so you counter project dribbling your assumptions all over me? All that means is you enjoy ESO from a different perspective. Which does not invalidate the points I already made from my perspective. I'm not sure what you'd like to hear here, atta boy or some shit like that. One thing I know, nothing I've said prevents you from continuing to play and enjoy ESO in its current form...
I played both for a while. ESO overland is extremely easy. The quests, voice-acting and othe aesthetics are great ....but there is no challenge whatsoever. I could run around naked and do every quest. The engine is getting old and could use some polishing. PVP is constant grinding for new unbalanced sets and item because devs balancing chaos. Very unrewarding to grind for something and then watch it be rendered useless. New World needs optimization and more content (which I'm sure they will add as time goes by ....if given a chance). I love PVP ...but my machine can't handle even Outpost rush without frame skipping, lag, etc. Make sure youi have a decent CPU if you want to get the most out of New World. This is the most CPU demanding MMO I've run into. Given a choice, I'd go back to New World provided they improve performance. ESO sub model and the way they lock expanded inventory (super important for crafting) into a monthly sub is crap. I'd rather they let me grind or outright purchase expanded inventory one time.
I enjoy the combat better in New World than ESO. The global cool downs in ESO are too short, and they feel just right in New World. Hopefully more content will come with New World, as I enjoy the look and feel of this game.
ESO has wayyyyyy more depth, story, lore, infinitely more content and quality. New World is the dumbed down bargain bin mmo. Only thing similar is its combat. Absolutely no reason to play New World while ESO exists.
Yeahhhh ESO knew what they were doing. You will run out of bag space so quick in ESO if your not a member. Being a member is worth it for the bag space alone especially if you wanna be a gatherer and Crafter
New World feels like a newer version of ESO. Once I switched to New World, the combat, crafting, and dungeons just feel and play superior to ESO. IMO ESO has been amazing but is getting dated for sure. Also, NW is on the up and up with season passes now and more content coming out.
I love elder scrolls but ESO was so borring on the gameplay i couldnt pass lvl 20. But well im not enjoying that much my new world expérience either. Its funny because i just download a mod for skyrim its together reborn, and im having more fun on that wish is buggy and crashy and old ass game instead of those modern mmo.
New World crafting is not as intriguing as implied. If you love to gamble, as in risk financial ruin for the small chance of winning big, then you’ll love New World’ crafting. And what are you gambling with? Your free time. New World does not let you craft the exact item you want. It always relies on chance. You can spend hundreds of hours maxing all your craft skills and hundreds of hours acquiring the crafting materials… but then the game computes a “chance” to craft the item you want. Imagine spending hundreds of hours in a game, then being unable to craft the item because the game gave you a garbage item instead. I’m all for grinding out in PvE and farming for specific items. But I do that knowing that eventually I’m going to get that item, with with hundreds of hours invested. There’s no grinding out once you’re at max craft level. It’s always going to be a random chance to craft the item you want. My free time is more valuable than that. That’s why I stopped playing New World.
I think that's a fair assessment of crafting and I can see where you are coming from. But at the same time if you were able to craft whatever items you want with the exact specifications and stats that you want it would diminishe the value of crafting imo. Because everyone would be able to craft that item which would be the best in slot item. And in term would kinda destroy the market because nothing would be of value. Especially once everyone maxes out their crafting. To me it's almost no different than running content repeatedly to get a piece of gear and it taking you hours to get it. Now I think parameters could be added to get the desired rolls you want on a piece of gear to make the process less rng. But I don't think I would give the player exactly what they want.
@@passman36 if something as simple as being able to craft the exact item I want is enough to crash the whole market, then that’s not a very good system to build a game on. New World, for all its pros, has many glaring issues that are not a good foundation for building a game upon. Example; there is a limit on how many “hard mode” dungeons (expeditions) you can do per week. So let’s say my friends and I want to farm that hard mode dungeon. If we start on Tuesday night, by Thursday or Friday, we can no longer run that hard mode dungeon. That’s ridiculous. In ESO, with enough grinding for materials, I can craft the exact item I want with the exact traits I want. And if I wanted to run hard mode dungeons all day every day, there’s no game imposed limit on how many times I can run the dungeon in hard mode. New World’s declining player population is a testament to the game’s many problems.
The PvP in ESO is scuff as hell. It's one of the most janky things I've seen in a MMO. Feels so out of sync, floaty, no impact. It's just bad.... real bad.
I agree im not to much of a fan of it myself. I like the idea having both good pve and pvp. But the thing that bothers me the most in pvp with eso is everyone can just heal themselves.
To me elder scrolls games have never had great combat. Outside of magic. And normally if the combat isn't good I can't enjoy it. But elder scrolls does so many other things right that I tend to overlook it.
@@passman36 I am pure pvp. Its become really bad. We had a push for a war, then we could not have the war due to not fielding enough players. Its Wars and OPR. The wars are fun, but OPR has to be the worse repetitive Battle Ground i have ever played. The Freash start servers are even worse. Anyway, great video. I might look at Elder Scrolls online
@@marccarter1350 thanks glad you enjoyed the video. I did notice it took a while to even find an outpost rush. As well as the base game dungeons no one was doing them. I think they could make some adjustments to get more players like free trials or going free to play. But if they went free to play they will have to monetize players another way. And I think the best thing is that this game has no pat to win elements
For as big as ESO is and as long as it been out, it really hasn't released anything new BUT lore (but their quests are GARBAGE you can complete an entire zone in 20-30 minutes if you try). The game combat is garbage, pvp is garbage, gear is garbage, champion levels are garbage, crafting is garbage (not to mention the materials bag is hidden behind a monthly pay wall) and it takes devs months-years to fix game breaking glitches if at all. New world took awhile but it has so much more to offer and the devs actually want to provide a great game. I had over 2500 hours into ESO as of a year ago, 12 maxed out characters (stam and magicka version of each class), but I haven't gone back since.
I can understand that. I like eso and have played it a lot but I wouldn't consider it a favorite. I think the best thing it does is story and questing. the fact they have come out with new weapons to me is a crime. Also the fact that it took them so long to finally release a new class this year is unacceptable.
Again, nothing substential. Gear Sets a core game feature that should be in the game from day 1 is now is for pay to buy... wtf. still no more OPR maps in the rotation, attunment perks still balanced as ever (attunemnt perk+ upgrade hourglass gem is 30% bonus dmg on every hit), gems still only convert 50% of the dmg so u cant combine weapons efficentlly, still no open world carriages, objectives palyers can defend in open world, or servers accouncments for 1 boss or fastest boss kill for guilds, mele balance is still stupid... slow on every melee hit... archers and muskets still broken because of the ahckers and again because of the attunment perk and hourglass bonus dmg so u cant even armor against that... light dodge is emaningless since melee has so much mobility, slows and staggers... until thex fix these issues new world will never be popular. they dont udnerstand the market. even tho voice chat is veryinnovative... weapons... not fluid or fun, no fun mobility weapons like daggers... witha ctual action combat not just dodge spaaming for immunity frames....
I play both, the issue i have with ESO is that the graphics are starting to look dated, need a good overhaul. But comparing these two doesn't make sense, ESO is Fantasy driving as New world is "realistic" if you would, we are all human some just have abilities you LV your weapons not your class. I LOVE New world, ESO has been out for 9 years where New world just two so ESO will have more content then New world and a lot of players cant grasp that and say the game lacks content.. It doesn't lack content you just ran through it all in a week because that's what you do now days and then complain there is nothing to do. They are both great I say play new world and remember there is a 7 year difference in games so the content is less but the Devs have made great progress and they have a promising road map that they have stuck to.
That's why mentioned that it's only going into it's second year and will continue to flesh out content. No game or mmo that I can think of launched content rich
I agree with the difference in content because of time but when you compare games you can't compare what a game has vs what a game "might" have. It may not seem fair but I think it's very realistic for someone looking between 2 games to play to pick the one with the most content. It's like buying a car with all the features or for the same price, buy a car with no doors and a few windows knowing they will add these in as time goes on. The car with no doors may look cool and have potential, but I'd like my doors now. Games are much the same. If you really want to immerse yourself into a game for the long term, content wins and MMORPG's are long term games. Looking at releases over the last decade or so, it seems if you release a game that doesn't have as much content as a current game you're competing with, your game better have some kind of "hook" that it does better than every other game. Without that "hook" no one will play until the content picks up. It's just the reality of the genre. does NW have that "hook"? Does it do something so much better than any other game you can ignore the lack of content? If NW can pump out the content at a rapid pace they can stay afloat and even succeed. If not, the game will falter until there is enough content for people to sink their teeth into long term and hope by then it hasn't become an afterthought.
Eso have 7 years, NW have 1 year, that's the diference.
You have packed a lot of content into a short video but everything is explained very clearly. Definitely an upvote!
I have played several toons up to lvl 60 in New World. I have just started ESO and have a toon up to lvl 12. I have seen enough of both to say that your comparisons are spot on.
For me, as a PVE player, crafting in NW is a fun way to spend a couple of hours. ESO seems to have much more depth in terms of exploring, quests and lore.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I hope you have a good time in ESO. You have some much content to explore and a new expansion right around the corner with a new class.
Both are great. I wish I could have time to play both in a consistent basis.
Great video.
I like both games a lot, but I personally like the combat and skilling in New World more.
Plus New World is one of the best looking games out there. I honestly recommend both games, give them a try and decide for yourselves. :)
Thanks I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'm with you I enjoy the combat and crafting much more. And I enjoy the seamless open world as well.
In ESO you need to to do a light attack weave to get high enough DPS pretty sure that's the reason why most new players get's turned off about the combat, they can't sustain a high enough DPS. Light attack weave is basically crucial specially in end game content
Just make a heavy attack build... 90k DPS easy
Even games like league you auto weave. Such a simple thing but hard to master.
My issue with weaving is eso is that it looks dumb af. Eso used to be my favorite MMO, hundreds of hours, but I have more less left. Hoping one day the change the floaty combat
NW combat system is best you can get in any mmo when it comes to pvp. Its more on skill than gear based. Its easy to understand but hard to master. Devil is in details.
For sure pvp is a blast. Id love to see some smaller scale objective based game modes too
all the mmos with great combat lacks content =/
@@sergeoh735 you would think after all this time..... With so many other mmos to learn from that one would come along and get it right.
Story telling is much much better in eso.
Should do a side by side comparison to 5 side quests. ESO vs new world. Just an average 5 quests in elder scrolls online vs an average 5 quests while trying to find some variety in quest design.
Lol that would look so bad for New world.
Great vid! I am starting new world as a eso player and so far it’s pretty good!
Awesome I glad you enjoyed. I hope you have a good time with NW I've put so many hours into that game and always come back to it
are you still liking it? im thinking of getting back into action mmo and i cant decide between eso and nw
@@vadimnimarov8796 pvp for NW pve for ESO simple is that. Nw pve really borring, eso have a good pve + you can grind for pvp too so more content you have in ESO. I feel myself more like pve and trader so I play ESO. I get on pvp when I want kick some ass xD
You did not mention the most important aspect of gameplay... New world is not "targeting game" so you actually have to hit your abilities and aim with range weapons. Where in eso you just have to look in the direction of the mob/player.
I mentioned it was an action combat. So I assumed that people would know theres no targeting system. But definitely a good call out. I'll be sure to be more specific about it.
ex-ESO player here. currently NW player. I absolutely loved ESO, however their servers kept booting me off. multiple tickets with their tech dept. and nothing changed. It crushed me to quit but get in a dungeon or trial with friends and repeat boots day after day and anyone will quit playing.
the only issue i really have with ESO is the promises of bug fixes and lag fixes that still haven't happened and lack of communication with players. New World, at least when it first released, had great communication, but the bugs killed it for me. might pick it back up again if ESO doesn't at least show they're serious about the bugs this year.
Yeah at thia point I just assume bugs will never get fixed lol. My issue with eso is the balance. Constant nerfs and resetting of things.
@@passman36 hell i've given up caring about that, i already know no matter what i'm gonna be screwed XD
I quit eso because they can’t stop reworking/breaking combat. The game is too expensive to be so broken for so long.
I genuinely loved a lot of my time playing. But once you cross the end game thresh hold; and you take into account my comment above. Mix that with the lack of end game reasons to do older content. It makes it hard for me to spend time in a game that I really love.
This right here. Played eso since beta, 5 yrs later. I finally leave. The lightning patch screwed it up for a lot of people. Not to mention that zeni is just stacking the game on top of old code with out fixing it. So that's another issue the game has when it comes to long list of fixes that never got fixed.
I think an updated comparison video would be in order some time after the console release, and now a whole year has passed, alot can happen in a year, for both games
My man this video is GREAT! I would honestly pay to have you compare more MMOs lol
You presented so much data but all of it was quality and concise! Easy sub
I'm glad you enjoyed the content. I certainly intend on doing more. And covering newer mmos as they come out. I justed started with the ones I'm most familiar with.
I played new world recently and it still needs a lot of work tbh. The updated leveling/questing experience isn’t even finished
I have 1500 hours in new world and just started ESO, and the first thing Ive noticed is that all the NPC’s that give missions actually talk. The mission system seems much better.
Youll find that the questing experience as a whole is better imo. They tell actual stories, NPCs talk. Some stories tie into others. And the mission structure isn't just kill or fetch quest.
very good vid.I play new world but wish some of eso elements was in new world...which it will happen...
Thanks glad you enjoyed. Yeah new world is so young and has a lot of room for growth with is exciting
As a Former ESO player with 2k Hours:
At the beginning, I used to Roam and explore a lot and do tons of quests and it was fun.
Once you get to the end game there is no more challenge in doing that..
Once you know how to DPS, Nothing in doing quests out in the open areas is challenging..
if you love the Lore - by all means explore as much as you want. If you are looking for some challenge there is no
point in exploring ( At least for me ).
The real Fun ( Again, for me) is all the Dungeons and trials this game has to offer.
They are extremely mentally challenging and require a lot of precision and communication with your team
I feel like one game is just on the threshold of rising and the other were watching its fall. Hybridization ruined any semblance of unique feeling to mag/stam differences. I trust NW developers more than ESO. Main issue I have with NW is i have no attachment to the weapons. It doesnt feel like a big enough difference. I prefer classes that make characters different. Weapons give zero reason for replayability.
I think the ability to wield different weapons is what gives you the replayability to see how things work with one another. And i think that will increase the longer the game goes on and more weapons come out. Im indifferent between weapons and classes. my only thing is that i would love to see the weapon trees continue to expand. or maybe even add in some additional combos or something like that to give it more robust options. Because as of right now i don't think the abilities or perks weapons offer is enough.
New world is a big disappointment for us. The Elder Scrolls Online is still very cool since 2016! 🤩
I agree the game still feels very much underwhelming. However i do think the potential for the game is very high if they stick with it and make sound decisions
I wish I went the pc route so I could try new world. I'm an xbox pvp player on eso and the changes the devs keep making are so frustrating. I often feel New World would fill that gap
Yeah my main progression on eso is tied to Xbox as well. So I feel you. I really wish there was cross progression. But from here on out all my mmo games or mmo-likes will be played on PC for me.
Same here put it about 1.2k hours on eso xbx..just build a new pc and thinking about to jump new world looks very interesting.pc really makes gaming range wider..
i think he done new world dirty saying there "nothing to do in the world" there is tons if resources to gather, fishing hunting, ancient ruins and villages to clear mobs out of etc. and there is groupish events, clearing corrupted zones mini bosses and elites, open world pvp if your flagged 🤷♂️
Parse DPS req for harder Dungeons killed ESO for me, i like NW more, and i like world, combat and crafting. (I almost completed all zones in ESO when i used to play it.)
I've seen many people saying ESO is great and a worthy addition to the franchise, but I have trouble jumping into MMO games because of the time investment and sometimes the money investment. Never even heard of New World but it does at least look interesting. Great video man!
Don’t waste the time on new world been playing since launch and the player base is dead and the devs are throwing the game in the gutter
@@isaacladell2559 you are obv a NW hater, the playerbase isn’t dead, the game is a waste of time yet you’ve been playing since launch? 🤡. Wouldn’t be playing it if it was that bad
ESO is the only MMO I jump into from time to time, because I like the solo content that it provides. I'm a very casual player because I have many other things going on as well so I often play it in very short bursts. You can play for free (aside from paying for the base game but when it's on sale, it's not an awful lot of money and there is a ton of content included) but I do think that a subscription in ESO is worth the investment and it's very easy to activate/cancel it from your account. I could feel like playing ESO for a bit - I activate a montly sub - and when I feel like I want to switch to another game and will probably leave ESO alone for a while, I cancel my sub again and the monthly payments stop.
@@isaacladell2559 lol the devs are not throwing it into the gutter. The game has been massively approved upon since launch
Revisit this in October 2023.
Will do.
Im sure if you do the same video in one year the summary of content pve pvp speaking will overwelm ESO. Nw have the most in depth and dificult pvp gameplay of all mmo history so imo is the most fun to play
i did play first eso then NW -------- i playing eso right now.
I played ESO for a while, but I couldn't get over the almost grainy look of the screen. Thats one of the reasons I play New world, as its easier on the eyes in my opinion.
I feel like people do not give ESO enough credit for its graphics. The game released in 2014 and the game still holds up today.
I completely agree it's not a bad-looking game at all. Especially some of the later expansion zones like elsweyr. That was one of the zones that really stand out to me.
I have friends who play new world and I have been an eso player for years. I just feel like I can always delve deep with eso and new world seems to be a quick fix. This is all personal experience and preference
Played both a lot, had uninstalled both for the lst couple months. Reinstalling ESO tonight.
I was thinking you were gonna make praising one, shitting on other style video but you explained it really well with almost all of their basic aspects. Great video
Awesome video man thank you soo much for putting in the time & effort. It really shows and I really appreciate!.
Thank you very much im glad you enjoyed the video. Ill be back very soon with more content Just have to take care of some other things first.
New World will be one of the best MMOS on the market in 4-5 years time.
As it currently stands its good, one off game you can kill time with.
I can definitely see that. If they flesh out their pve and continue adding to pvp. I personally think the game should go free to play to bring in a huge influx of characters.
@@passman36 agreed good game but they haven’t added any PvP content since launch and the player base is so low on most servers that you can’t get into any expeditions or PvP content
@@isaacladell2559 yeah a game like this is basically centered around having a player base. So they should be doing whatever they can do add more players.
Totally agree with you @Rubens the developers have been very transparent with their frequent videos on the state of the game. Even though the important changes are taking a while, it does seem that they are listening to what the community is asking for. Often times, we forget that NW is still a newer MMO. To be a good game like it is while still being new, is a great sign…. I’m just imagining if they continue to refine the game, how greater it can be.
Nice Video! concise and comprehensive.
Hey thank you. Glad you enjoyed
I've liked ESO for ! Sadly though, it does get very boring due to the combat, which is really sad to see since the stories are impressive. Over time though, they eventually do become repetitive.
Since the combat in NW is more advanced, I feel overall that it's really more fun because every encounter is a fresh fight.
I think you forgot to mention innnew world heartrune which is like an ultimate
Also you can remove the root from using Abilities or dodging
Not sure how far you went into the PvP In new world but some abilities can be dodge by crouching or jumping
That's an awesome call out. I know it's there an exaist but it was something I didn't think about when making this vid.
I love the surface level discription. Im a casual gamer and dont need to ve bored to death with the intense deatailig some UA-camrs offer. Keep it up man. I enjoyed it
Hey thank you very much I’m glad you enjoyed.
As NW PvP veteran I can tell you few things:
PvP is not that hard, its easy to master if you have hands but a lot of people just dont have it and they are bad even in the game where you have only 6 skills. Combat system is nice but balancing is awful. OPRs are bad - last time there is bow and musket spam and its OP af. For about 1 year the only good content worth logging in for me was siege and we had at least few of them per week.
I played this game from release, I didnt log in since few last days and to be honest if u are looking for nice MMORPG then I dont recommend this game, doesnt matter if PvE or PvP player, its not about burnout or being toxic its just advice to save your time, ESO, GW2, WoW, FFXIV is just better
You did a really great job of summing it up. New World has better environmental effects, better combat, better open world gathering. ESO has better questing and lore. Superficially, New World looks and feels better, but below the surface, ESO seems like a fundamentally more meaningful experience. Comparing New World to ESO is like comparing The Lord of the Rings to the Bible. One may be more entertaining, but the other is more of a classic.
Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed. I agree with everything you said. If new world can get better questing sand stories and the sheer amount of content combined with new worlds visuals and gameplay it’ll be amazing
I think new world has the potential to be a better game. Lets not forget ESO had a rough start as well but after years of development and content eso improved. As the current state of both game, i feel eso has more content to offer whereas new world end game activities are still very lackluster but this is OF COURSE because eso came out years before. If we compare what they have TODAY eso is the better game.
Right now im currently on a break from new world until more substantial content gets released. I agree with you I think the potential for new world is much higher than where eso is today. But currently, I think eso is the better game and has tons of content to keep you busy for a while. New world just doesnt have that content depth yet. And it probably wont for a while. But its something about growing with a new mmo that i personally like. Only thing i think new world is doing better than eso is the crafting/gathering systems and the combat. and one could argue maybe pvp if your into that. I hope this helps.
If new world had a pet class or a summoner class i would play new world more but it does not and mounts are locked behind a dlc wall...
Yea mounts behind a paywall suck.
As far as pet classes those are among my favorite. I just cant see new world adding something like that. As far as im concerned i think the way weapons and stuff feel can be underwhelming.
Id love for them to add to there current weapon trees to give people more options
end game in new world is boring, you sit at the trade post and look for better gear, plus all that stupid shard spam is annoying as high hell
New World is a grind game 98 % of it is grinding levels in crafting and levels in general
You forgot to include Cyrodill in the pvp segment. New world doesn't have and I bet it probably won't ever have something remotely similar to cyrodill.
Ahhh yes your absolutely right. But I think your right. I would like to see a siege type pvp format in new world as I think it would fit in perfectly. But one I don’t think they have the player base for it. And I think they want their main attraction for pvp to stay the faction wars for zones.
Everything said I agree with. I love NW and the Devs do listen, but ESO is more fleshed out. Plus I wanna upgrade my rig this winter so right now ESO is still graphically better for me, but the combat of NW is outrageously fun! It is just so fluid and not at all clunky.
Edit: And NW is on Steam only and I just don't like Steam. :/
Great video 🔥
Ayyyye turn up. Appreciate it man
Both are solid games, I like New world more. It's a newer and better ESO but with less content.
Awesome Video
Thank you very much glad you enjoyed
nice video, got my sub my dude :)
Hey thank you very much. I'm glad you enjoyed. I got more "vs videos" of different mmos coming and some non mmos as well.
@@passman36 seen it and I'll clearly check'em out. BTW I'll use this video to make my friends get into eso, so feel weaponized 😂
This was a well-written video! Thanks for the info!
Awesome Im glad you enjoyed the video.
Still waiting on an open-world PvP game without having any flags. I like the idea of questing with danger lurking around the corner. But people are Whiners and crybabies so it will never happen again 😂.. they need to make a dedicated PvP server for dedicated PvPers.
Yeah unfortunately I don't think a mmo like that will reach mass popularity because of people who grief. I feel like the closest thing to that is Albion online. And that's a popular one....just not on the level of ESO, GW, FF and a few of the other major mmos that are popular
I play NW loyally, but I wanted to give ESO another go recently, as I heard about the new class. My character was maxed out years ago and there has been some changes. I was going to start over. After getting in game playing my old character I was alright let’s do this. Then a light bulb went off about ESOs worst worst feature, and it stopped me from playing. The guild a trade post auction system in ESO is garbage!! Soo hard to max gear your character if you have to use a 3rd party website to find out what town and and guild vendor to go too. Such a horrible system.
Crafting progression in NW feels great, but you're bound to be disappointed when you reach "Mastercrafter" status. It is basically gambling. You can spend anywhere from 50-100k on crafting resources and get next to nothing. No one wants to buy mediocre purple gear so the only way to make a profit is to get lucky and roll legendary gear, but getting legendary means nothing unless you roll the perfect perks. My last roll was for 5 rapiers, of which I spent 40k crafting. I received ZERO legendaries. Basically a weeks worth of income just flushed down the drain. INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING. Don't play NW for the crafting system.
Excellent video
Thank you glad you enjoyed.
personally i prefer ESO but hate pay to win in games to the point that it is a bit of a turn off, i wish ESO had new worlds cosmetic only model but i guess it just nets less money
Im the same way but p2w is so common in mmos now...its like trying to decide which p2w is worse you know
ESO by miles. It aint even close.
I have played both including many other mmorpg. I personally like ESO the content is vast and so many zones/gear/things to do I find myself always going back to ESO in the end... but man they need to put crafting bag on store for 3k crowns. I only sub for the crafting bag. I try to make it with 1 bag but I always give up and sub. ESO has flavor it has so much content you don't even need the sub when you start playing because you will be kept busy for awhile with non DLC content. If you don't plan to craft or gather then yeah sure you don't need that bag. And in ESO you won't even behind anyone because I see hundreds of other players today still doing the base game launch content, because 1 it's still good, 2 it still gives good rewards.
What I will say about new world is it looks pretty but game felt bland and after playing it once I have never felt need to return. I still feel no need to return and I gave up last year reading content updates because new world never reached the game I wanted. I liked combat in new world when I first started but it didn't keep me entertained long because it just wasn't enough.
Also ESO gear you get from questing is some of the best gear and really to complete game it's all you gear you will ever need!
The eso devs are doing their best to ruin the game. Constant nerfs, balance problems and bait and switching are their calling card
Yeah with a game like eso which has so much freedom in how you play is a pain to balance.
did they remove eso from game pass?
I am not into PVP at all. So i guess NW is not for me. I probably benefited by 50% for what i pay? 🤷
Well, I will say new world is putting a lot more effort into their PVE side of things with raids etc coming. I would say check back with the game around sept-oct when their next expansion drops
As an endgame player in both games, New World takes it for me.
Really? Why is that? I only asked because the amount of content new world has at endgame is a lot less. Is it the quality of how the dungeons feel. The crafting. Or is it PvP for you?
give this man subs :)
Hahaha thanks man. Say it one more time for the people in the back. Glad you enjoyed.
The eso store is horrible, new content is behind credit cards. That is why stop playingit, new world have a better monetization so im betting for the new kid
I agree I'm not very fond of ESO store. And I hope new world continues what there doing.
But I can't help but wonder if they will ever give in especially if the player base doesn't grow.
ESO > NEW WORLD
opinions vary
@@Amayi1 No, you can make it objective. New World doesn't have the refined systems and detail that an 8+ year old game has. It objectively has way less lore, way less open world, way less itemization/gearing etc that's not a varying opinion. ESO has 8+ years of added DLC it's whole world is insanely more larger than New World. There is no comparison because it's not a fair time period.
@@Despond in your subjective opinion
ESO is on it's way out, buy to play, sub model for non casuals, and monetized progress with an abundant use of time gates, will deter new and annoy the current player. New World is doing a non traditional model of no sub and bare bones monetization through a slim pickings of cosmetics, so New World might be on the way out before it can potentially get good.
I think something that could help is allowing people to earn crowns with in game curreny. But I doubt the devs would do something like that. I imagine it would be a huge loss for them.
Crafting in ESO is basic it's actually quite terrible.
Sure, ESO has pay to progress, at this point with over 9 years they are welcomed if you making a new toon or hero. They are 100% optional. My first main character has done everything the king way so it’s completely possible.
That's completely fair. As youve put in that time and grind. But for new comers that may be a turn off. But in general it's hard to find any MMO without pay for progression if we're being honest. So I feel like most people should expect it.
@@passman36 when first introduced people were barking pay to win. Now many years later to just be able to get new toon to level 10 in the mages guild with a button press, heaven. Some of the guilds and crafting grind is months. Great video by the way.
Black desert beats both?
Definitely not
I suppose I'm very old school. I don't get the p2w, microtransaction, and subscription mentality. I prefer to own a game rather than renting post-purchase.
If this will be the future of gaming...then like politics, you pick the lesser of two evils and learn to settle.
No i completely understand. Gaming has become about financial greed for these companies and ultimately its ruining games imo .
Well New world come to console like PS5?
As of now the devs said they have no plans. But I could totally see it coming personal the game is not button intensive so controls wouldn’t even be a issue
Thank you for your review and analysis. Neither of these look and/or sound better than BDO so no need to experiment for me. I am awaiting the Nightingale and Chrono Odyssey launches to see what they are like.
Yeah id say the main difference with these from BDO is that they have a bit more PVE content. But if your coming from BDO to these games combat will be very underwhelming for sure.
@@passman36 Thank you Sir. I have a dilemma of being 64 and still a gamer. I love the idea of an MMO, but at this point, I have pretty much seen and done it all. And everything repeats and for a large extent, doesn't change - there's no innovation. And that is exactly what I am hoping for with each new crop of releases and am continually disappointed.
Absolutely the graphics get better (and the hardware to display them), but when it comes to what we all do inside each game...well developers seem to have hit a creativity wall and all we, the gamers, get are prettier and prettier versions of the same old song.
@@stephenschroeder6567 Its all good Gaming knows no age. I plan to game till my hands fall off. But I understand your pain. As someone who loves MMOs primarly its sad to see the state that they are in. The crazy part about it is that these new MMOs have so many other games they can use as resources but they dont, And thats why they generally dont last.
I can't find New World on the Xbox store.
It's a PC exclusive at the moment. I'm not sure if they plan to bring it to consoles or not.
@@passman36 No! It looks so good I've been playing ESO since 2016 and I'm looking for a replacement.
@@ACamaroGuy yeah I think it would be a perfect fit for consoles. The game requires less input than eso. And I think it would inject so much needed cash for the game.
I played ESO since 2014 Beta. I am on a hiatus from ESO over the last 2 months. I have been playing New World for about a month now and I enjoy it. I remember the issues ESO had in the first couple of years. I also remember the issues ESO created after fixing some things and then breaking others as a result. ESO's strength is the variety of classes, races, weapon types. ESO's weakness is the variety of classes, races, weapon types and how you are pigeon holed by them. New World does not require you to pick race for perks. You get those based on how you play. Leveling in New Word IMO is easier.
The environment and materials farming in New World is superior to ESO. You chop a tree down not pick up a log on the ground. The fishing is better in New World. As a new player to New World I have not PvP'd yet. But PvP'd in ESO since April 2014. I have two ESO accounts and so I know about ESO PvP. It needs improvement. And like someone said, in ESO gear does most of the work, some will disagree and I know of people who are really good no matter what they wear in PvP. If it's more skill in New World than gear I will be happy.
In ESO Cyrodiil PvP needs to be redone. Actually, ESO as a game needs to be rebuilt from scratch with a more up to date API like Vulkin. ESO needs to include the ability to go under water and and New World needs to allow you to swim. Why would NW allow players to go underwater but not swim makes no sense. I can go on and on. ESO is good but long in the tooth and way over due for a game rebuild. Not patching but fresh new coding and game engine, as it's almost 10 years old. Technology exists now that would make ESO WAY better now. New World is a young game with a major tech support. It should age well if the devs stay on top of things and the game listens to players. I have heard of people leaving and coming to New World. A lot of those coming into New World are from ESO like myself that seems to give the game a little refresher of player base.
Strong projection. New World is so unpolished. ESO doesn't need to be rebuilt from scratch what lunacy is this lol? It has by far one of the best ever lores in an MMO and open world. Insane single player value too even without the 8+ years of DLC which will give you way more time. It's incredibly easy to level what are you on about? All the daily bonus XP, events, farming mobs, you can be level 50 in a day. They also put a softcap on unslottable passives so as a new player you're maybe a few weeks behind in CP farming only - CP farming is a joke too, can easily get 50 a day. Gearing is also way smoother with sticky book system, and that most builds don't even need trial gear so you can just farm normal dungeons and be geared out in a week. Sounds like you're burned out.
@@Despond I'm projecting? So, what is your point, that you disagree with my view points, so you counter project dribbling your assumptions all over me? All that means is you enjoy ESO from a different perspective. Which does not invalidate the points I already made from my perspective. I'm not sure what you'd like to hear here, atta boy or some shit like that. One thing I know, nothing I've said prevents you from continuing to play and enjoy ESO in its current form...
If you want the best from both worlds, try GW2 tbh.
Agreed thats what im currently playing now
You forgot to mention new world has 3 v3 arenas
Yes after making the video i totally forgot to mention that they have small scale arenas!
I played both for a while. ESO overland is extremely easy. The quests, voice-acting and othe aesthetics are great ....but there is no challenge whatsoever. I could run around naked and do every quest. The engine is getting old and could use some polishing. PVP is constant grinding for new unbalanced sets and item because devs balancing chaos. Very unrewarding to grind for something and then watch it be rendered useless.
New World needs optimization and more content (which I'm sure they will add as time goes by ....if given a chance). I love PVP ...but my machine can't handle even Outpost rush without frame skipping, lag, etc. Make sure youi have a decent CPU if you want to get the most out of New World. This is the most CPU demanding MMO I've run into.
Given a choice, I'd go back to New World provided they improve performance. ESO sub model and the way they lock expanded inventory (super important for crafting) into a monthly sub is crap. I'd rather they let me grind or outright purchase expanded inventory one time.
I enjoy the combat better in New World than ESO. The global cool downs in ESO are too short, and they feel just right in New World. Hopefully more content will come with New World, as I enjoy the look and feel of this game.
ESO has wayyyyyy more depth, story, lore, infinitely more content and quality. New World is the dumbed down bargain bin mmo. Only thing similar is its combat. Absolutely no reason to play New World while ESO exists.
the fact that you pay your way for bags and content is really bad never played nw wont say anything on it
hate eso did so many things wrong imo
Yeahhhh ESO knew what they were doing. You will run out of bag space so quick in ESO if your not a member. Being a member is worth it for the bag space alone especially if you wanna be a gatherer and Crafter
@@passman36 glad to see someone like minded
New World feels like a newer version of ESO. Once I switched to New World, the combat, crafting, and dungeons just feel and play superior to ESO. IMO ESO has been amazing but is getting dated for sure. Also, NW is on the up and up with season passes now and more content coming out.
I love elder scrolls but ESO was so borring on the gameplay i couldnt pass lvl 20. But well im not enjoying that much my new world expérience either.
Its funny because i just download a mod for skyrim its together reborn, and im having more fun on that wish is buggy and crashy and old ass game instead of those modern mmo.
Before you reach 1m subscribers, I put a totem on here.
A million subs what a dream that is. Hopefully one day. Right now I'm just aiming for my next goal of 200 😂
I played both, but i stick with new world
What do you prefer about new world over ESO ?
the sense of community and personal impact in the economy and world@@passman36
i hated ESO community, it feels like im walking into a hospital.
great video thank you! eso has the best open world PvP ever since Dark age of camelot:)
if the servers allow ofcourse:)
Why would you compare these two ? I don't understand ;(
I believe they are a lot more similar than people think.
He probably compared them because some ESO players are or have migrated to NW such as myself.
New World crafting is not as intriguing as implied. If you love to gamble, as in risk financial ruin for the small chance of winning big, then you’ll love New World’ crafting.
And what are you gambling with? Your free time. New World does not let you craft the exact item you want. It always relies on chance. You can spend hundreds of hours maxing all your craft skills and hundreds of hours acquiring the crafting materials… but then the game computes a “chance” to craft the item you want.
Imagine spending hundreds of hours in a game, then being unable to craft the item because the game gave you a garbage item instead.
I’m all for grinding out in PvE and farming for specific items. But I do that knowing that eventually I’m going to get that item, with with hundreds of hours invested.
There’s no grinding out once you’re at max craft level. It’s always going to be a random chance to craft the item you want.
My free time is more valuable than that. That’s why I stopped playing New World.
I think that's a fair assessment of crafting and I can see where you are coming from.
But at the same time if you were able to craft whatever items you want with the exact specifications and stats that you want it would diminishe the value of crafting imo. Because everyone would be able to craft that item which would be the best in slot item. And in term would kinda destroy the market because nothing would be of value. Especially once everyone maxes out their crafting.
To me it's almost no different than running content repeatedly to get a piece of gear and it taking you hours to get it.
Now I think parameters could be added to get the desired rolls you want on a piece of gear to make the process less rng. But I don't think I would give the player exactly what they want.
@@passman36 if something as simple as being able to craft the exact item I want is enough to crash the whole market, then that’s not a very good system to build a game on.
New World, for all its pros, has many glaring issues that are not a good foundation for building a game upon.
Example; there is a limit on how many “hard mode” dungeons (expeditions) you can do per week. So let’s say my friends and I want to farm that hard mode dungeon. If we start on Tuesday night, by Thursday or Friday, we can no longer run that hard mode dungeon. That’s ridiculous.
In ESO, with enough grinding for materials, I can craft the exact item I want with the exact traits I want. And if I wanted to run hard mode dungeons all day every day, there’s no game imposed limit on how many times I can run the dungeon in hard mode.
New World’s declining player population is a testament to the game’s many problems.
The PvP in ESO is scuff as hell. It's one of the most janky things I've seen in a MMO. Feels so out of sync, floaty, no impact. It's just bad.... real bad.
I agree im not to much of a fan of it myself. I like the idea having both good pve and pvp. But the thing that bothers me the most in pvp with eso is everyone can just heal themselves.
I hate ESOs combat. Still plays like oblivion from 20 years ago. Unsmooth af. New world has a great art style and dodge based souls like combat
but meh content.
To me elder scrolls games have never had great combat. Outside of magic. And normally if the combat isn't good I can't enjoy it. But elder scrolls does so many other things right that I tend to overlook it.
New World cannot be called an MMO at present. No one is playing it. No end game
Fair enough. It's content offering is slim. For the pve players for sure. I would love for raids to come around.
@@passman36 I am pure pvp. Its become really bad. We had a push for a war, then we could not have the war due to not fielding enough players. Its Wars and OPR. The wars are fun, but OPR has to be the worse repetitive Battle Ground i have ever played. The Freash start servers are even worse. Anyway, great video. I might look at Elder Scrolls online
@@marccarter1350 thanks glad you enjoyed the video. I did notice it took a while to even find an outpost rush. As well as the base game dungeons no one was doing them. I think they could make some adjustments to get more players like free trials or going free to play. But if they went free to play they will have to monetize players another way. And I think the best thing is that this game has no pat to win elements
@@passman36 Cross server is on it's way
For as big as ESO is and as long as it been out, it really hasn't released anything new BUT lore (but their quests are GARBAGE you can complete an entire zone in 20-30 minutes if you try). The game combat is garbage, pvp is garbage, gear is garbage, champion levels are garbage, crafting is garbage (not to mention the materials bag is hidden behind a monthly pay wall) and it takes devs months-years to fix game breaking glitches if at all. New world took awhile but it has so much more to offer and the devs actually want to provide a great game. I had over 2500 hours into ESO as of a year ago, 12 maxed out characters (stam and magicka version of each class), but I haven't gone back since.
I can understand that. I like eso and have played it a lot but I wouldn't consider it a favorite. I think the best thing it does is story and questing. the fact they have come out with new weapons to me is a crime. Also the fact that it took them so long to finally release a new class this year is unacceptable.
In the state eso pvp is in.... id say a pile of dog shit is more exciting.
Again, nothing substential. Gear Sets a core game feature that should be in the game from day 1 is now is for pay to buy... wtf. still no more OPR maps in the rotation, attunment perks still balanced as ever (attunemnt perk+ upgrade hourglass gem is 30% bonus dmg on every hit), gems still only convert 50% of the dmg so u cant combine weapons efficentlly, still no open world carriages, objectives palyers can defend in open world, or servers accouncments for 1 boss or fastest boss kill for guilds, mele balance is still stupid... slow on every melee hit... archers and muskets still broken because of the ahckers and again because of the attunment perk and hourglass bonus dmg so u cant even armor against that... light dodge is emaningless since melee has so much mobility, slows and staggers... until thex fix these issues new world will never be popular. they dont udnerstand the market. even tho voice chat is veryinnovative... weapons... not fluid or fun, no fun mobility weapons like daggers... witha ctual action combat not just dodge spaaming for immunity frames....
NW has also more languages than ESO and the most important the Russian language is not between them
I play both, the issue i have with ESO is that the graphics are starting to look dated, need a good overhaul. But comparing these two doesn't make sense, ESO is Fantasy driving as New world is "realistic" if you would, we are all human some just have abilities you LV your weapons not your class. I LOVE New world, ESO has been out for 9 years where New world just two so ESO will have more content then New world and a lot of players cant grasp that and say the game lacks content.. It doesn't lack content you just ran through it all in a week because that's what you do now days and then complain there is nothing to do. They are both great I say play new world and remember there is a 7 year difference in games so the content is less but the Devs have made great progress and they have a promising road map that they have stuck to.
That's why mentioned that it's only going into it's second year and will continue to flesh out content. No game or mmo that I can think of launched content rich
@@passman36 OH i 100% agree but we know how people are now... Nothing directed to you. I mean New world launched with more content then WOW.
@@Searching-4-Paradise oh I know you weren't directing it at me sorry if I responded that way. But I do have high hopes for the game.
I agree with the difference in content because of time but when you compare games you can't compare what a game has vs what a game "might" have. It may not seem fair but I think it's very realistic for someone looking between 2 games to play to pick the one with the most content. It's like buying a car with all the features or for the same price, buy a car with no doors and a few windows knowing they will add these in as time goes on. The car with no doors may look cool and have potential, but I'd like my doors now. Games are much the same. If you really want to immerse yourself into a game for the long term, content wins and MMORPG's are long term games.
Looking at releases over the last decade or so, it seems if you release a game that doesn't have as much content as a current game you're competing with, your game better have some kind of "hook" that it does better than every other game. Without that "hook" no one will play until the content picks up. It's just the reality of the genre. does NW have that "hook"? Does it do something so much better than any other game you can ignore the lack of content? If NW can pump out the content at a rapid pace they can stay afloat and even succeed. If not, the game will falter until there is enough content for people to sink their teeth into long term and hope by then it hasn't become an afterthought.
yeah, I agree... I'd also recommend people get in now with New World since I believe it has a bright future whereas ESO seems to be on the way out ...
Thank you Doug Fisher for this good comparison.