one MEGA thank U is not enough...!!!! There is always space for improvement! Everyone can move a step up in the ladder of moto-knowledge by watching and learning from you !!! Is the least I/we can say, for the knowledge and the deep details that you are transmitted to us via this UA-cam channel. Moral lesson: there is always space for improvement and with your experience, everyone can climb one step UP in the ladder of knowledge in the motorcycle world. "Discover" you almost 11 years ago by "on the throttle tv" and still learning and understanding the suspension environment...!!! Thank you very much from sunny Greece!!!
Thak you Mikael - I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to write a comment and for watching DMT videos since OTT days! Thank you for using the content to improve yourself and your motorcycle(s) over those years :)
Can someone help me..? Just touching the suspension on my used 2021 MT-09 SP. basically stock, went to adjust slow speed compression on the front fork and only one side clicks, the other(right brake side) is stuck and turns the whole nut rather than click the inside adjuster. I don’t feel like that’s right or maybe I’m dumb. Read the entire manual and didn’t find anything on suspension.
The question is if the screw is stuck on the maximum or minimum setting? Hold the nut with a 14mm wrench/spanner and gently try clockwise or counter clockwise to free the screw. The metal is soft on the screw so get a tight fit with the screwdriver.
@@catalystreactionsbw it’s stuck; just had a suspension tech look at it. HOPEFULLY that is the issue with my front end as to why it’s so wobbly. He’s gonna change the ‘cap’ on it and fluid in both forks. Fingers crossed
@@catalystreactionsbw and thanks for the reply; the dealership where I bought the bike has a service dept and they would t touch the suspension at all.. dude was afraid to even look at it as if it were black magic or something.
Dear Mr.Moss ! I weigh 260-270 pound fully equipped and 5,9 foot tall. I have the new MT 09 2021 . Not the SP Version .. I don’t do tracks. 80% city 20% funrides in curvy Austria . Do you recommend at least a rear damper because of my weight, like Wilbers or Öhlins ? Greets from Europe
Hello Christian. Yes, a rear damper would be required so your choices are Nitron, K-Tech, Ohlins, Wilbers etc. Go with European brands for parts and servicing.
Great ! What make of oil (10w) do you use ? There is a big difference in CST between makes for same weight. CST seems to be a better reference, wish manufactures would stamp that on bottles. Maybe I’m getting that wrong ?
cSt is a far better reference tool and if you look for the technical data by Googling a fork oil viscosity chart, you will find most fork oils aggregated.
i think yes because my pressure tyre, is bounce when 32 psi...but more that that ,36psi isnmore stable no bounce when corner... but i scared tyre cant stand... i bring touring bike and brinh all heavy equipment, tools and some lube inside the box...and have top box and side box
Hello Dave from Greece.I want an upgrade for my rear suspension tracer 900 2020.My ride is only in city and commute and just need an update because iam fat..130kg. Do you suggest any suspension for me? thanks
New rider. Just got my license. Looking at this bike as my first. Maybe a 7 instead of the nine. Should I avoid it due to the poor suspension? Or just figure replacing the suspension as part of the cost of purchase?
Welcome to our sport and congrats on passing your license! Budget bikes get budget suspension. Which one are you most comfortable on? Which one gives you more foot contact. Which one feel natural with the handlebars and levers? All questions that need to be answered.
I got a 7 in the same situation as a new rider. I bought it used with about 7k km on it and the bike has 2 problems for me, really. The first is suspension and the other is on/off throttle jerkiness (because of the fueling). Both can be fixed, I did Dave's fix on the front forks and it is a must do if you get the bike. Rear shock has to be replaced - I am bouncing on the road with the stock one constantly. The throttle issues can be fixed with a tune. But, as Dave said, ride the bike(s), test them, see what fits best
I have a 2014 FZ-09 which had the terrible suspension. I spent the cash for a Penske rear shock, stiffer front springs with a revalve. The stock shock is junk. Period. The whole bike is much more confident than it was stock.
@@catalystreactionsbw unfortunately Ive only ever ridden 1 motorcycle... the Harley in my class. I didnt like the seating position, it made my hip flexers cramp. Thanks for the advice.
Remote Tuning services are $40 for email settings or $80 for 30 minutes of video 1-1 consult. Please email me - dave@dave mosstuning.com so I can send you all the questions and information I need should you choose to want to work with me.
I have to say it, It doesn't seem to me at all that you apply the same force on the back of the bike on 00:37 vs 1:14 With that difference, of course, the guy doesn't bounce as much. But hey, they seem happy in the end. Are you going to do an MT 09 SP version video? With the fast compression damping/slow compression damping?
You should be able to follow the link provided in the video. When you log in, find the video and open it. Refresh the page and the YT player will change to the Vimeo player
Hi Daniil. That era 600 had a great frame and reasonable engine. 20w or 30w in the forks with the correct springs would be a cheap and easy upgrade. Difficult part would be finding a more "modern" shock for it. The 06 GSXR 600/750 Shock (has a horizontal reservior and a yellow spring). Same goes for the 06 R6 shock (horizontal res and a red spring). Those two seem to be the best fit from what I can tell. But you may still have to swap spring because those shocks are coming from bikes that are much lighter than the 600.
Hi Dave. I am new to the motorcycle world. I plan on taking the msf course and get my license in the next month or so. I am leaning towards a mv f3 800 for my first bike. I live in the central valley about an hour os so east of San Fran. Would the f3 800 be a good bike for my first bike? When I get a bike, could I bring it to you for ergonomics and suspension fitting? Thnx.
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one MEGA thank U is not enough...!!!! There is always space for improvement! Everyone can move a step up in the ladder of moto-knowledge by watching and learning from you !!! Is the least I/we can say, for the knowledge and the deep details that you are transmitted to us via this UA-cam channel. Moral lesson: there is always space for improvement and with your experience, everyone can climb one step UP in the ladder of knowledge in the motorcycle world. "Discover" you almost 11 years ago by "on the throttle tv" and still learning and understanding the suspension environment...!!! Thank you very much from sunny Greece!!!
Thak you Mikael - I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to write a comment and for watching DMT videos since OTT days! Thank you for using the content to improve yourself and your motorcycle(s) over those years :)
Can't beat experience!
Dave!! Did you do a video series on your tracer ride through the country?
Dave is the best.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the advice mt09
The guy at 4:49min, what headlight is it? I love it!
ua-cam.com/video/3x-ANWMnnCo/v-deo.html its the "SpeedGhoul" Headlamp from Kenstomoto.
Can someone help me..? Just touching the suspension on my used 2021 MT-09 SP. basically stock, went to adjust slow speed compression on the front fork and only one side clicks, the other(right brake side) is stuck and turns the whole nut rather than click the inside adjuster. I don’t feel like that’s right or maybe I’m dumb. Read the entire manual and didn’t find anything on suspension.
The question is if the screw is stuck on the maximum or minimum setting? Hold the nut with a 14mm wrench/spanner and gently try clockwise or counter clockwise to free the screw. The metal is soft on the screw so get a tight fit with the screwdriver.
@@catalystreactionsbw it’s stuck; just had a suspension tech look at it. HOPEFULLY that is the issue with my front end as to why it’s so wobbly. He’s gonna change the ‘cap’ on it and fluid in both forks. Fingers crossed
@@zgjfinance2796 Thanks for the follow up!
@@catalystreactionsbw and thanks for the reply; the dealership where I bought the bike has a service dept and they would t touch the suspension at all.. dude was afraid to even look at it as if it were black magic or something.
Thank you Dave.
Amazing Dave
I have the Mt - 09 Sp. 2019. Öhlins fully adjustable. Kayaba in front. Super competent. Trick is to set i just right 😅
Dear Mr.Moss !
I weigh 260-270 pound fully equipped and 5,9 foot tall.
I have the new MT 09 2021 . Not the SP Version ..
I don’t do tracks. 80% city 20% funrides in curvy Austria .
Do you recommend at least a rear damper because of my weight, like Wilbers or Öhlins ?
Greets from Europe
Hello Christian. Yes, a rear damper would be required so your choices are Nitron, K-Tech, Ohlins, Wilbers etc. Go with European brands for parts and servicing.
Medieval stone thrower up in this bitch
Lol at the zoom in on the chicken strips
I prefer to call mine "safety margin"
@@DSfull I think he was going for the brand of tire lol
Bryan J Yes I know but still :)
Dave's the best
Was this Salmon Falls road near Folsom Ca. ??? If so, will you be coming back through?
There will be a few test and tune runs there in the next 4 months. I will post up on my website schedule when the next one is.
Great ! What make of oil (10w) do you use ? There is a big difference in CST between makes for same weight. CST seems to be a better reference, wish manufactures would stamp that on bottles. Maybe I’m getting that wrong ?
cSt is a far better reference tool and if you look for the technical data by Googling a fork oil viscosity chart, you will find most fork oils aggregated.
i think yes because my pressure tyre, is bounce when 32 psi...but more that that ,36psi isnmore stable no bounce when corner... but i scared tyre cant stand... i bring touring bike and brinh all heavy equipment, tools and some lube inside the box...and have top box and side box
I weigh 65kg. Can you guide me to install compression and rebound of Ohlins 535 on MT-09 ? Please and thank you !
Set static sag at 12-15mm. Set compression in the middle of the range, then use suggested setting for rebound to start.
Hello Dave from Greece.I want an upgrade for my rear suspension tracer 900 2020.My ride is only in city and commute and just need an update because iam fat..130kg.
Do you suggest any suspension for me? thanks
Nitron offers the best value for money and their NTR R1 shock with preload and rebound would be the best option.
@@catalystreactionsbw thanks for the answer Dave.And i add the Hydraulic Preload Adjuster or this is optional?
@@koschar185 Hydraulic preload is indeed optional. For many, well worth the $$ investment.
New rider. Just got my license. Looking at this bike as my first. Maybe a 7 instead of the nine. Should I avoid it due to the poor suspension? Or just figure replacing the suspension as part of the cost of purchase?
Welcome to our sport and congrats on passing your license! Budget bikes get budget suspension. Which one are you most comfortable on? Which one gives you more foot contact. Which one feel natural with the handlebars and levers? All questions that need to be answered.
I got a 7 in the same situation as a new rider. I bought it used with about 7k km on it and the bike has 2 problems for me, really. The first is suspension and the other is on/off throttle jerkiness (because of the fueling). Both can be fixed, I did Dave's fix on the front forks and it is a must do if you get the bike. Rear shock has to be replaced - I am bouncing on the road with the stock one constantly. The throttle issues can be fixed with a tune. But, as Dave said, ride the bike(s), test them, see what fits best
I have a 2014 FZ-09 which had the terrible suspension. I spent the cash for a Penske rear shock, stiffer front springs with a revalve. The stock shock is junk. Period. The whole bike is much more confident than it was stock.
@@catalystreactionsbw unfortunately Ive only ever ridden 1 motorcycle... the Harley in my class. I didnt like the seating position, it made my hip flexers cramp. Thanks for the advice.
@@TheMcTimzo ill definitely do that.
recommendation on adjustments for a 110lb ride, fz09, stock with 22k miles
Remote Tuning services are $40 for email settings or $80 for 30 minutes of video 1-1 consult. Please email me - dave@dave mosstuning.com so I can send you all the questions and information I need should you choose to want to work with me.
I have to say it, It doesn't seem to me at all that you apply the same force on the back of the bike on 00:37 vs 1:14
With that difference, of course, the guy doesn't bounce as much.
But hey, they seem happy in the end.
Are you going to do an MT 09 SP version video?
With the fast compression damping/slow compression damping?
Difference in force = low speed vs high speed assessment. When an SP comes into the canopy space for adjustment we will film it.
How do I get to the full video?
I subscribed for a month.
You should be able to follow the link provided in the video. When you log in, find the video and open it. Refresh the page and the YT player will change to the Vimeo player
@@catalystreactionsbw Thank you so much, you are awesome. I couldn't set my rear shock properly. Now the bike feels planted to the ground 👌💪.
Hello dave do you think a fzr600 from around 1990 is good for a first time trackbike?
Hi Daniil. That era 600 had a great frame and reasonable engine. 20w or 30w in the forks with the correct springs would be a cheap and easy upgrade. Difficult part would be finding a more "modern" shock for it. The 06 GSXR 600/750 Shock (has a horizontal reservior and a yellow spring). Same goes for the 06 R6 shock (horizontal res and a red spring). Those two seem to be the best fit from what I can tell. But you may still have to swap spring because those shocks are coming from bikes that are much lighter than the 600.
@@catalystreactionsbw Thanks
Salmon Falls!!!??? I missed Dave AGAIN!
this guy is a wizard. pretty sure when i get my mt09 im gonna need some help fixing the stock suspension....
SP model may be😅
Hi Dave. I am new to the motorcycle world. I plan on taking the msf course and get my license in the next month or so. I am leaning towards a mv f3 800 for my first bike. I live in the central valley about an hour os so east of San Fran. Would the f3 800 be a good bike for my first bike? When I get a bike, could I bring it to you for ergonomics and suspension fitting? Thnx.
Hi, Dave. What front fork suspension upgrade would you recommend for 2020 Yamaha XSR700?
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