EMPIRE DIVIDED REVIEW - TOTAL WAR: ROME 2
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Empire Divided marks a first for Creative Assembly, it’s the first time they’ve created content for a game after a new game came out. It’s also the most expensive DLC they’ve created for Total War: ROME II by about 20%. How does it play and is it worth the price?
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I love how candid you can be with your opinions now that you don’t work for CA
He used to work for CA?
Iason29 yes
The problem with Constantine Rise of Christianity is that they havent touched the mercenaries at all. You can still recruit veteran hoplites in the year 300
I know for sure if the Dresden team works on it for like 6-7 months is will be 10x better than this shit DLC.
I actually loved the DLC. I played as Aurelian Rome and found it a rewarding and challenging campaign. If you didn't like Rome 2 then you're not going to like it, but it makes the base game way better
Four years and thousands of mods later and this is the best they could come up with?
Well at this point and didn't expect much more from them. It's as if they use the same tools to create their games as modders...
lol, If Dresden updates his Constantine mod, it will already be better than this. CA fucking suck.
Pikachu
@@enigmaticvaran6597 what?
Tbh I really like the Empire Divided Campaign
I am more and more proud of how you are reviewing these games darren, I stand behind you and your channel 100 %
Can't believe CA dropped the ball on Rome 2. Rome 1 left such an impact. The graphics, atmosphere and especially the music. Rome 2 is a hollow shell. Thx for the vid
It's alright these days but yeah, not as good as Rome 1.
DEI
Angrypolack I'd say Rome 2 is one of the best CA games after years of patches. Which is sadly not saying much about the new CA.
AND the makers of ROME had forgot the old FAN WISH for a more active political Senat in the game.
As always, top review Darren
HE LIVES!
Your review was spot on and was presented in an awesome way, informative but didn't ramble on. I just found your channel, but you've found yourself another subscriber!
8:00 I agree 100%. The Mindless interaction that is Province building in Warhammer breaks my heart and going back to Rome II and see the improvements it got from Atilla fills me with joy.
This DLC did something way more important for me than just being a Rome II DLC. It showed me that CA can still care about their damn games and it gives me hope for Thrones of Britannia.
yeah hooray, more imbalanced unit rosters and terrible historical accuracy
That aged like milk
If you want a much better version of this download Constantine: rise of Christianity mod in the steam workshop for Rome 2.
Darren literally said that at the end of the video.
Lol, so fucking sad, CA is a pile of shit.
As a whole they aren't shit ,but everything to do with Rome 2 is for whatever reason.
The DEI mod slays anything that studio could produce.
And they said they spent close to or more than a year on this... Certainly doesn't feel like it.
Thank you for the review, I wasn't unsure how well made it is, and will wait for a sale now.
Great review that seems very objective. Well done, and keep it up!
i found really funny when zenobia said the same thing like the eastern faction leaders 2 things always smell fish and the laziness of CA :D
Aurelian’s campaign is hard asf. 💀💀💀 You have threats on all sides.
Love how you sounded so "pro-DLC Rome 2 Total War" into a comedic satire reviewer!
Really great work with those reviews i must say that i never saw similar quality in case of other reviewers even the biggest ones.. Maybe the problem is in the fact that they concentrate too much on the showman aspect of the review than on an actual review itself...
Good DLC for the Wrong Game! It should have been for TW:Attila for multiple reasons
It probably would've worked better in Attila, more functions that could occur being the easiest point. Attila just had more engine to it to handle the ability for multiple things this DLC showed. And plus, this DLC is right before Attila's time line so it'd make sense as-well, so I completely agree.
No one is interested in Attila, that's why.
Attila still runs like shit for me
Poor performance > Rome 2
The problem is attila plays with different game mechanics then rome 2 and this dlc fit more with rome 2s mechanics
I find the squalor mechanic a bit strange. The buildings don't confer province-wide sanitation effects, thereby making it difficult to control squalor in smaller provinces as you need to dedicate one precious slot for either a sanitation building or cult. Apart from that, I suppose it's a passable dlc. They should have released it for Attila imo.
I either forgot about this DLC entirely, or I never noticed its existence xD might look into it more though, despite it being three and a half years old at this point
Because Rome 2 is shit.
@@sudeshnamukhopadhyay5214 94 % on steam
It really just feels like an overhaul mod you would find in the Steam Workshop. Like you said, the new mechanics are a step in the right direction but do not go far enough. There are a number of graphical bugs introduced as well as the ever present issue of bugs that have plagued the game since it released. Will Rome 2 be getting another patch to fix the new issues, or is the team already disbanded?
Just not worth the price by the looks of it. Nice review, Darren.
This definitely influences my decision to purchase the DLC. Thanks!
Your reviews are the best, please do it more!
CA seem to be experimenting with some new mechanics, which I don't have a problem with on paper. Too bad it's on Rome 2, a game that I'm not going back to, and it doesn't look like this DLC will help that in any way.
I think you could re-do your old Rome II DLC review (WoS, HATG, CiG) in this style
You did the right thing Darren. You display much more professionalism and genuine enthusiasm in your work unlike CA.
I remember the last time I played Rome 2, sometime in 2015. I was sick of the crappy AI, so I decided to test it. I set up a custom battle, with me having a bunch of levy pikemen, while the "very hard" AI had some swords, cav and slingers. Then I formed my pikes into one single line - and I really mean just one line, no box or round corners, just one straight line - then I took my hands off the mouse and keyboard and watched.
I watched in horror, as the AI charged all it's units into the front of my pikes, with the ONE cav unit "flanking" getting clipped by the edge of my pike line and still hitting it head on. Not even the slingers tried to go around and shoot from behind or hell, even shoot from the side. Just shoot head on into the shields of my pikes. After a few minutes I won the battle, at which point I quit the game and never went back.
Like you said in this video, this is additional content on a shaky foundation. The AI is just too stupid for me to enjoy this game, and no amount of additional units, factions, campaigns or mechanics is going to change that. So as much as I like the Roman time period, this will be a no buy for me.
Can you review older TW games?
I really want to know more about attila. I played rome 2 and I liked it but attila looks kinda cool with sieges, gritty atmosphere, siege escalation all sounds cool.
I liked it mostly for the setting, something about the later period Roman Army looks badass compared to the early one
Great to see an honest and informative review.
Most of the "reviews" and early impressions etc. are just fanboys jerking of to "kool krafix, look at tat charge soooo COOOOL, OW HE REKT HIM SO COOOOL, MY GUY IS A BEST SO COOOOL, false historical statements and over stating the amount of content". Once again I thank you for your honesty and saving me money. I will stick to better quality mods.
Thanks for the review, I have been waiting for one since before it came out haha. I am also glad you can share opinions on TW games again although I hope you still have their ear... They have been on a disappointing track lately
Really like how you did this review. Great job!
Good review and I agree with most of what you say except: price - I've had hours and hours of fun with this so far and for £12 I don't think that's poor value entertainment, I mean it's probably pence per hour by now; historical focus - this makes me pay particular attention to the third century crisis and the achievements of Aurelian which I hadn't done before so this works for me; AI - I'm having a much tougher campaign on Empire divided I think and I'm enjoying the challenge on just hard campaign settings; skins - I don't much care for vanilla skins but the modders have got to work very quickly - thank-you modders.
1:10 You misclicked HA!
On the dlc, the only thing appealing to me are the unit cards :\
We already have Emperor Augustus for the Roman civil war vibe.
Wait, is the Queen Mother in the DLC?, I must have it now, Mother gets really angry if she have to do all the work alone :$
I feel like this review has been focusing way too much on the game mechanics and completely overlooked the fact that we got an entirely new era with multiple new cultures and tons of new weapons and events for the price of a dlc. This is basically a discount Attila. Which I am very please at because my computer cannot run actual Attila.
So all he content was created pre launch - so what were we’re paying for on release wasn’t a game then - it was part of a game with the ability to purchase the rest
Always been one of my favourites DarrenTotalWar ❤️
yeah I refounded it, it felt overpriced for no substantial changes
I did the same. Played with Aurelian and Sassanids and didn't like it at all.
same, the historical inaccuracy was too much.
9:44 god damn skaven are jumping games
20 bucks and I've played at least 20 hours since release. Finding the small factions really fun, I feel the power and backlash when I run into a large faction. Like you said Rome 2 is fun so new DLC that brings me back with new starting positions and scenarios is always welcome. Cheaper than watching another boring movie for 2 hours at the same price.
Excellent and clear review. Thank you!
lol i bought this game for the dlc and i've been loving it.
Very well made.
Thank you for your work.
Very informative review, much appreciated.
Great review thank you so much Darren!
I'd give it a 2 one for being Rome and 2 for having good graphics
Endings are insults
menumorut in here, best review and truly review ever about CA garbages , I mean DLCs
I actually enjoy this DLC with the Aurelian campaign. You forgot to say in your review that there is an exhaustive auxiliary system for the Romans in the campaign that allows you to recruit unique units from the controlled regions you own (unlike Rome II system)
I did forget to mention it, but it's also because vanilla Rome II has this. Just build Auxiliary barracks in any part of the world and you'll get different units. I should've still mentioned it though.
True. But as I mentioned it is a more exhaustive system than in vanilla Rome II where it was simply recolored units, whereas here you get some relatively new fresh units. Anyway, good review and nice channel, I am currently watching your Spellforce III preview ! Will you also do a review ?
Great review - the content is thin and even worse recycles Attila TW armour and weapons assets to place them out of their historical context. Late Roman helmets in the mid-3rd century next to imperial helmets, for example, looks frankly odd. You've covered all the main points with some good insight and commentary. Thanks!
Nice vid Darren. I agree with what said, I feel it was just thrown out to please the historic fans, but £12 is too much for nothing really new.
Anything vanilla from CA is just simple garbage these days
How can a mod like DEI exist and we still get half assed effort from paid developers?
Skipper dei is bae
Exactly, when Dresden released Del 1.2....I swear if I was a CA dev, I would feel ashamed of myself. A group of 15-20 people expanded the game further than CA ever could. Just imagine if they had CA's budget. It's a damn shame.
ArthaxtaDaVince777
Spot on. They should just sack the CA Devs and employ those 15-20, their friends, the Stainless Steel (med2) and EB (Rome 1) modders and Legend of TW. Give Legend is own office though, he'll rub everyone up the wrong way otherwise.
Every new work reviewed on here first, obviously!
godscop999 That would be a dream come true, but I don't expect anything good from CA in the future.
ArthaxtaDaVince777 DEI is really nice, but still not nice enough to make rome 2 bearable for me. battles are better than vanilla, but there are still Dota abilities, limited buiding slots...just so many small things that add up. the fact DEI adds an excess of overlapping unit types doesnt help.
still an outstanding mod.
One thing before I make my opinion known I have an extreme bias in favor of this DLC
So... I disagree with the unit for variety being dull there i said it
To me Attila is superior in every way, campaign wise and battle wise, so I'm surprised they didnt put their resources into an expansion for that rather than going back to Rome 2, although I know Thrones is looking like an Attila expansion
I'm just pissed that all my subscribed mods that made Rome 2 tolerable enough to enjoy had been screwed over by this update. If anything, this update had pushed me away from any lingering attachment to Rome 2.
Just update the mods, you moron.
My dude! You got a new sub and a like! Amazing review, keep it up.
I tried it for about an hour and was getting performance issues. I couldn't stand it so went back to WH, which runs at max (looks better) , with over 100fps. I'm really aching for an updated/optimized historical title..
As you said i dont know why they kept the old city names and regions.. the perfect exemple is trace.. god why did they leave odessos?? They could add marcianopolis instead.
Ohhh I forgot this was Darren Total War?!!!!
Looks like a "Divide et Impera" - damn such a mod
I'm just waiting for the Zenobia × Aurelian fanfics
Great video Darren, but you said there's no map changes, aren't the borders changed at least to include Judea and Palmyra as full regions? Not sure if there's any other changes.
Harald it uses the “Imperator Augutsus” map which released for free on the 16th of september 2014.
Good to know, I haven't tried Augustus.
Why is it that in the artwork and trailers some units look different then in campaign? Aurelian does not have a gold face-mask on his helmet in campaign, neither does his cavalry bodyguard look like the ones in the trailer.
ermanamer Falco He wears it during battles.
good review bro, gonna buy it on sale
Thank God for mods Rome 2 total war is Awesome with mods its unfortunate that it took mods to make this game so playable.
Hopefully this means we can still get a caesar in gaul dlc for rome 1
100% agreement. Can't believe I even gave half a crap about its release tbh
If you like Rome 2 it's well worth getting. Especially if you have the other dlc campaigns and it is the best campaign dlc so far. Although it's abit on the pricey for what it does. Well worth picking up when it does eventually go on sale. In the meantime you could just enjoy the Power and Politics free update till then
nah, you can get about the same content for free on a mod...
Holy shit Saxoni is my home country, I can conquer my country. I must have this
good review, i think Ill pass on this dlc, thanks for the infos
can't run any games that use a launcher, including the later total war games and paradox games, tried everything suggested but still no progress. Really pissed
Can you use the factions from this dlc for custom battle games?
Just want to let people know this update/dlc has jacked the Mac version up so now the game is unplayable and with no signs of it coming to Mac or a fix seems like creative assembly just killed this game for Mac
Good review. Basically you just told me what I already knew. This is nearly completely a paid mod...
What are your thoughts on the whole Warhammer 2 debacle?
tabacila what debacle do you speak of?
what?
tabacila unfortunately im away on a business trip so cant make a video about it. But I posted my thoughts on it to my discord. I dont fully buy their excuse though. While i believe they messed up, and are behind what they planned, they also arent putting what resources they could on getting norsca ready. Even dispite brooks law. Will talk about it in the coming days when im back.
Maybe he is referring to the fact that Norsca will be added to ME in May.
yes there is new dialogue and new speech, and generals with high gravitas in your party will form their own parties and the map is different slightly
And here I was looking forward to it.
Just curious... What settings are you using?
My question is, does getting the DLC change the unit model on the Army Screen? I've just bought the game, and the black and white tiles are annoying
The unit cards are different in the DLC only. Buying the DLC will not change them for any other campaigns.
Sorry to ask something in a old video, but what was the mod for your unit frame?
There are no mods in this video, none of my reviews have mods in them
@@RepublicOfPlay great unit portraits for the empire divided mod then, I've discovery total war rome 2 recently and still have slot to learn, you have a great archive of videos to help me with that
Fantastic video. You even got that a lot of people like starting small and building up, which turned me off Attila (I'm more of a Roman player). DLC seems meh, not gonna make me re-install Rome 2 with all of its problems.
Also, no new dialogue really grinds my gears.
aww should hv waited for your review before buying it 😤
Empire Divided cost 5,77 € now worth to get?
They need to fix the combat animations, you can see all infantry have 2 animation for kills which is annoying..
Yeah, like it or not, I don't get why it's so expensive. I guess CA thought people were super desperate for historical content?
Hey I'm having a problem with empire divided it's missing text information like under the building bonuses
Shoddy cast ooohhh more Rome 2 bugs
Are you under the impression that this is CAs support forum?
I gave it a 7/10. Like...it's good. But just the same shit, really. They should of focused something like Germanicus in Germania. Way more interesting. We already got our civil war with the Augustus campaign.
good job mate.
I’m about to get my first pc I would like to know what’s the best total war to start off with
Rome 2 or Shogun 2!
@@RepublicOfPlay i can understand Shogun 2, but Rome 2?
Why so?
Jani Horvat It’s the easiest by far, and with it being a newer one has tons of videos on it and how to play. And it has probably the most DLC for a tot war game.
tried playing the dlc i hated it , because i reached a point playing as rome where after every new settlement my overall income decreases by 200 or so, so i barely had enough armies to defend my vast lands and literally no income, and with every city i conquered i had to disband a couple of troops to atleast not go into negative income. i can understand that if with every new settlement i had less and less income from newest settlement but giving me like -300 -400 income with new settlements doesnt make sense and is retarded.
Van Haven then convert cities to industry
Thanks for the review Darren, it's just as I expected from what I've seen so far - an overpriced, insulting DLC that adds nothing. Seems to be purely an attempted cash-grab on the enduring Rome 2 fanbase. Recycled map, recycled UI, recycled voice and sound effects... what an absolute joke.
I'll be waiting til Thrones of Britannia and hoping it's less of a hatchet job than this pile of crap.
Was unimpressed with it but that seems to be the norm now with the total war games.
total war warhammer is the new guideline for new total war games. too many QOL changes the old games don't have.
You can also mention the fact that they were too lazy or too stupid to even change the Armenian Emblem, instead they recycled the one from GC. Even the Mod got it right .... upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Arshakuni.svg/1200px-Arshakuni.svg.png
Love your reviews! It’s very informative especially coming from someone that played a lot of total war games.
Even if it’s not the best DLC, I still think CA did a good thing here. Rome 2 is the most played historical title still! So it’s good for everyone that still plays it :)
Rome 2 perfectly captures why a return to the historical setting could ruin TW. The mix of simplistic grand strategy and real time battles got old years ago (Which warhammer invigorated and saved the franchise like it or not) what they need to do is expand on the grand strategy element greatly for the historical series, think Crusader Kings 2. I want to feel an attachment to my generals like in Warhammer, and have deep general progression and we need some political drama, i want a reason to hate my enemies. If the next historical entry is just rome 2 with better graphics in a different time period, then i feel that will be the final nail in the historical sides coffin.
deity 93 that was all there in past tw games, I think the series got popular so now they just rush out games.
deity 93 more stuff, and things to do have to be added into the overhead map mode. Battles are fine.
A blend between CK2 and total war would be amazing!!
I disagree. CA doesn't exactly have competition in this genre of games, so if they didn't make Rome 2 a pile of dogshit, lied to their customers faces, and carved up parts of the game as dlc, this franchise would be soaring, and the fanbase would be there to back it up. Instead their Total War empire is divided, between all the fans they lost when they swindled their money, either with their lies, marketing practices, or with how shoddy Rome 2 was, and other side with the newer fans that don't know any better and the super fans that wont give up this franchise ever and still stick around.
You do no see the bigger picture. The biggest problem with Rome 2, was that it lacked detail. Eastern factions were a copy/paste of each other, with one being slightly ahead of the other. Most factions were copy-paste as a matter of fact. CA didn't even bother to add balancing. I mean you take Seleucid Pikeman and you can conquer most of the game with just pikeman and peltasts. The new DLC made it even more evident of the imbalance in this game. The Armenian roster in Empire divided is the same as the Sassanian, ... just much weaker. Have you seen those Zhayedan Cav? They are so fucking overpowered. I remember it was the reason I returned the game after 45 minutes of play, I charged at 1 Zhaydan Immortal with with 2 units of Azat Cav from Armenia, the Zhayedan unit was in Even Combat.... Are you fucking kidding me?? It then took the combined force of 2 cav units of the same price to kill a single Sassanian unit.... This is why Rome 2 is trash and will remain trash forever more. I mean even Palmyra has heavier cavalry than Armenia? Like what is this logic? Armenia, along with Persia was a producer of the Nisean horse, and had access to rich preserves of Iron. Ugh, anyways, this game is trash, the only thing that redeems it are mods. Modding this game to oblivion is the only thing that makes it playable.
Give me Emperor Aurelian!!
For some reason I can't get it to work... My models are all fucked up
It is the mods
You need to remove them
Party Partisan is it not enough to just deactivate them? Do I have to delete all of them?
Well that was scathing.