I wonder if Paimon, herself, was ”Guoba-ed” into her present self from a former god like Marchosius was. Apparently, losing your powers makes you very smol
Venti definitely knows what the heck is a Paimon. He is just pretending he doesn't know who she really is. The true extent of what he knows is hidden on purpose. An interesting thing about Venti is that he goes to sleep whenever Monstadt is at peace. He only awakens when Monstadt's freedom is threatened. So far in the story he is still awake, meaning there is still future danger. Perhaps he has a similar power to the god of time and senses that freedom of his people is being threatened. Something big is going to happen soon that seems to need the Anemo Archon's attention.
@@vernonsbible3413 and IT'S NOT like he has full control for sleeping for a long time, afterall in the manga, he even questioned HOW LONG did he slept. STILL he went and help his people again ( and pyro archon's people/muratans) who are in danger DESPITE being an absent god. it is NOT also a problem that he created himself unlike in Liyue and in Inazuma where their archons created the ''problem'' in the first place.
I wonder if Istaroth actually has a whole lot of shades, some weaker than others, which is why she was referred to as the thousand winds. Venti says that he has heard all songs of the past and future, and that he and Dvalin used to listen to the songs of the wind. Maybe the winds themselves act like a network across time. Seelies also have wind like forms and were known for singing, but their history is more complicated than that so it might not have any relevance. Idk, I feel like mondstadt being known as the city of "wind and song" could more important than it sounds
Barbatos' statue have, in it's base, the saying "gateway to celestia", and have it hands poited not towards Mondstad's gate but to that wormhole at Cape Oath that lead us to Musk Reef. Coincidence? I tink not. (Personal theory time: The first celestia lost the war and was casted into the Abyss, and now the second Celestia kills whoever find out that they are the usurper' usurper...)
I’ve been thinking about this, too. There was the second throne, after all. What if it was the one that actually won, placing Teyvat under “new management.” From what we know, there was a time when Celestia was more benevolent to Teyvat, but at some point they started ignoring the peoples’ cries for help
Agree since the enkanomiyans only assume that the primordial one defeated the second who came, i doubt that the god of time knows coz i think she's already in enkanomiya when the enkanomiyans were banned from the surface
Also, I can be wrong cuz it's still 8 am here but today doing Viktor's commission in Mond I went flying from the church and open the map to teleport away then I noticed that Venti statue on the map and the surrounding circle awfully reminded me of a clock with the wings looking like its pointing some hour. Again I might still be sleepy but can somebody else also see? 😂😂
If this was true, if Venti is really a part of the God of Time then it proves the speculation about Venti during the time that his Gnosis was being taken away by Signora that he knew what needed to happen so that's why he didn't really put an effort in defending his Gnosis
@@blattsee6095 personally I think that if he is the god of time, he can see into different timelines (sorta like dr strange but this could also be a timeloop, but that can happen simultaneously to him being the god of time) and that giving Signora ensures the least possible causalties or damages in the future
@@TeamKatniss4Ever I slightly disagree. I think that he's currently holding the memories of the goddess of time. Who is secretly Paimon. At some point in the story Venti is to give paimon her memories back, at which point she will once again become the goddess of time. This is being done in some sort of a plan to defeat Asmodays (The Sustainer of Heavenly Principles).
If I recall correctly Andrius (was once a powerful God) got his powers from an ancient God, so I don't think that transferings one powers to another, isn't entirely impossible.
Ok wait. I had just told my friend about Venti and his probable relation to being "time itself" because aside from the sundials located only in Mondstadt, he also said, "there is not a song i don't know, whether it's from the past, the present or the future." And how he appears to Mondstadt when it's in very very dire - totally needs godly intervention moments - he is suspiciously there. To say that he's been asleep this whole while but is suspiciously able to attend/witness important events is just very... Well... Sus. Also, i remembered that Dainsleif himself mentioned something about "seeds being planted long before" (i think it was something like that) but whether that was about the traveller or it was about how the current story in game is slowly unfolding - the events, the archons, the abyss - i am not sure. At that time, i thought it was about the traveller and how all these upcoming events has been prepared for the coming of the twins but it could also be that the twins are just catalyst to the beginning of it. I was thinking, could Venti have been awaiting for the Traveller's awakening and the start of the game's story? We know, as players who see the angles of the events, that something big is brewing, then is Barbatos being awake a actually sign? My friend mentioned something about Mondstadt being suspicious and i recall the other rpg games i've played. The story always goes back to where it begun. Like a fulfilling the loop of a circle. The 1st town is where something big shows up, and we're feeling like "it was all under our nose this whole time!!!!" That, and also feeling the same thing with Paimon. But it was just a random thing i playfully mentioned to her while we were both simping over Venti. And now im seeing this. Even further talking about him being a shade. I haven't finished Enkanomiya yet so i have no idea about that Phanes and primordial one but damn. If that is all in there... The fact that Enkanomiya quest is "just" a world quest saddens me. I wish it were like the archon quest where we can revisit the dialogues and all. Im not really that good at remembering things and i feel like this Phanes thing is going to be like info-dumped to my dummy brain.
Another fact that support the theory is when Venti "fixed" the Lyre and said that it would not stay like that forever. That can mean he didn't repair the lyre but just reversed the time back at one point the lyre wasn't broken so with time passing it would end breaking again
this seems plausible but i read this book series and in it wind magic was always associated with illusions (bending light using air) so he could have just made a fake fixed lyre
in my opinion venti has has abilities like herrshecer of sentience from honkai impact, where herrshecer of sentience who i will call as HoS, can make an illusion from feathers and when i see venti charged attack and how he teleport make a feathers.., so if my theory was true that mean venti can create a dreamspace, an enternal illusion and can make a weapon become real by just imagining its, which is make him very OP
So, I am not the only person who thinks that Venti relates heavily with time because he says he knows all songs. Also, Barbados may not be the most powerful Archon by getting his power from his gnosis, but he may be very powerful just like as a normal god.
I don’t think ei sacrificed her physical form for makoto, she fought alongside her and I was under the impression that ei took her physical form away when makoto died and she entered the plane of euthymia
Ei sacrificed her phsyical form during the archon war before Makoto's ascension. This was so that Makoto becomes the Electro Archon formally. Treasured Tales of the Chouken Shinkageuchi Thus, she chose to give up her bodily form, helping her sister to ascend to the "heavenly citadel" and obtain dominion over Inazuma. Shortly after, the True Shogun, "Makoto," set up her Shogunate and began to rule over the land. Remembering their bond, she recalled "Ei"'s divine will and reforged her body, thus returning her sister to her side once more as her kagemusha.
@@ChillwithAster that doesn't really fit with everything else we have been told though, and would mean Ei gives her form but has some sort of continued existence, then Motoko makes her a new body, then Motoko dies, Ei rules and fears the effect of time one her body, makes her puppet Raiden Shogun and puts her consciousness I her sword, giving up her body twice. The conditions of the Archon war is the gods either fight, leave or submit to the Archon. Ei doesn't have to give up her body for her sister to be Archon. It seems more like another unreliable story unless it gets some other source.
@@101Mant I mean, I have no idea either. This means that Makoto managed to retain the existence of Ei / revive her to make her become the Kagemusha. I don't even know what a KAGEMUSHA even is since it's alluded that 1. there is one baal in the eyes of the people 2. the imagery shows that they are parallel
NGL, I really like the idea of Venti being related to/originated by the the god of time alongside Paimon being the god of time *_SPECIFICALLY_* for the meme worthy reasoning that there's a decent chance that... cannonically, Paimon could be Venti's dad. Such a mental picture is simply too funny. I reeeaaallly wish it ends up being cannon just for that.
I think this theory is real because in the Weinlesefest event, Venti said that he breathed so hard so that the winds in the past can arrive in the present times and that's why Razor saw his parents. This just proves that Venti has a control on time.
Let's break down what time is on a physics standpoint. Time is basically what clocks measure. What time actually is is energy going from point A to point B which means it has a path to go that's why we need space and why it's called spacetime. So time can be seen as the movement of everything like the movement of the wind. And this path can be stretched or squished. A longer path makes energy take longer to reach it's destination while a shorter path does the opposite. That's why under the right conditions time seems to slow down at some places while at other places it speeds up. The only way to do a noticeable effect like that is by traveling at light speed or the influence of gravity. And what was Venti's ult again? Right! A black hole. A very strong gravitational force that has nothing else than a singularity inside. Also something really interesting: The Byakuyakoku collection mentions the God of Time as the mother of everything since 14 billion years. And we know what happened 14 billion years ago. It was the big bang. A whole universe expanded from a single singularity. The God of Time exists since then because the big bang marks the beginning of time. Most fans seem to look through Genshin's lore only on a fantasy and mythology standpoint but there is actually a lot of cosmology integrated but in a way that mostly just people who are experts in this field can notice it.
Am I the only one who's thinking that the wall in domain represent the creation of the world Teyvat? A winged creature with horns at the top (for me it looks like Phanes?) , the moon with the Triskele , and another tiny winged creature with a crown (Paimon?) who protect the seed of the world tree (Phanes egg?)
Great theory! Though I would suggest that Kairos might not be THE God of Time, rather a God of the Moment. I think everybody is forgetting about Chronos, greek god of time, and about the actual difference between the words "chronos" (time as we know it, the one you can measure) and "kairos" (a moment; a piece of time of intermediate length marked because of it's significance; and also weather) in ancient greek language. The most peculiar thing though is that in Orphic theogony (which is heavily referenced in Enkanomiya lore) it was Chronos who created the World Egg, from which Phanes was born, who then created the world from the egg's shell.
In genshin, when I say Kairos, I'm alluding to the character known as the Ruler of Time (by mortals) and God of Time (Sacrificial Sword. Whether there's a chronos character is still unknown, but if I have to guess, there wouldn't be. I think Genshin just got inspiration from Kairos (greek mythology) and combined elements of Chronos into a single character.
Omg this would make so much sense now. Just think with me: “what is freedom when demanded of you by a god?” This sentence might not be talking about the people of Mondstat alone, but also about Barbatos. Since he’s a shade, and istaroth created him to be a god who release mondstat’s people, he’s the least free of them all, because Venti is always working on his task to give them the freedom that istaroth demanded of him. And that’s why he’s such a unusual god, and the bounds of celestia fells different on him.
Wow, so cool to hear someone speaking about this theory! Thank you! I was having major sus at Venti after visiting that island off Mondstadt and learning that he knows "Every song in existence" since that kind of skill just had to have some "time powers" mixed in. Those ruins of the "thousand winds temple" also looked sus and much older then even Old Mondstadt, which too implied stuff... and then we've got the lore-dump in Enkonomiya and we learned what we learned... damn, Genshin lore is so exciting =)
i have read somewhere that she is not a native from teyvat and can travel from world to world too just like the traveler. she was also able to enter the haar islands which is very impossible to do.
I watched this video yesterday and today i was just watching reactions to all character demos and found out that in venti's character demo when the lyre is shown there's written "Full of mystery, BORN FROM THE BRANCHES OF TIME, a history of glory and sorrow, and witness to the divine". Reading that immediately thought of this video.
Oh yeah! This was the new lore theory that had Venti stans on Twitter losing their shit (including me lol) :'D Edit : I think we need an update of this topic- cuz recently, (Mi)Hoyoverse just CASUALLY name drop Istaroth's name near the end of Ei's archon quest & I was like "the fuck did I just read???"😭😭
Ik u guys probably know about this but have u guys met the npc in inazuma city that talks about a fictional character in a story who can stop time? It has no lore content but it feels like MHY teasing the lore community
Angst thought: what if the god of time used to poke fun and call venti tone deaf bard and paimon in her chibi form (if the paimon is like guoba theory is correct) unconsciously recreates that
yeah I didn’t believe that one but I think aster wasn’t trying to prove a point but rather think out loud and point out the similarities because why not
this comment is late but i got excited thinking about this. mostly relates to the archon powers that we've seen thus far and possibly further evidence for venti's connection to the god of time. zhongli, ei, and ventis ult all relate to space. zhongli's meteor, ei's slashes depicting galaxies, and venti's ult resemblance of a black. even in venti idol animation, he holds something akin to a mini black hole. within science, time and space are fudemental part of our existence. when we look at dimensions, like 2d and 3d, the first 3 dimensions are associated with space. some scientists believe the forth dimension is actually time. black holes are a place still mysterious to us and many theories exist on it. but the rules of time space may be different and could possibly alter the space and time around itself.
Hmmm.......... If he is a shade of the time god or something of her creation i don't think Celestia would just let him go Since the time god is basically erased/ forgotten from history i think he/she have disappeared from this world due to unknown circumstances I think venti does hav time powers not as much as the actual time god but a fraction as he does say that he knows songs from past present and future which could imply that he can foresee stuff from past and future but that's the extent of his power If this is true then it would make sense that venti is someone that Celestia can't let roam free and him being scared of those 3 Celestia people is part of it What if Celestia wants to monopolies his time powers but ad an Archon they can't just take him away and that's what the time god was after I think this because we are un aware of who currently holds power over Celestia is it the 1st throne or the 2nd throne. So it is possible that the 3 shadowy figures are the shades of the second throne. Which could imply that 1st throne and his shades are not here, could be that the time god is the only surving shade of the 1sy throne, as Venti does mention 3 others sacrificing themselves
My HC & theory thread along that paimon is Istaroth that got guobafied due to some reason, because unlike sustainer, sustainer doesn't have "crown". We see this crown in domain, there are 5, one for phanes, ( the middle ) and 4 for their shades. I assume sustainer is a decoy, it is celestia's guard dog, she might be something created by other shades Paimon wear the crown actually show her status in teyvat, she is a GUIDE, that is fond with humanity, especially their food & help us change time. The celestia we know now is the "second throne" while istaroth herself came directly from primodial one which make her at least, "first throne" or near original at some point, maybe, she foresee what happened to teyvat in the future & decide she will help in a form the heaven won't notice while creating one of her own shade (venti) as archon to help out people
after reading "before sun and moon" book, now i asume the old Mondstadt is one faith as the enkanomiyan the God of time"the thousand wind", thousand wind temple is used to pray for her. not anemo god. after Venti rule mondstad they are save nation under the Seven, other who flee into Dragonspine still workshiping the old god, got destroyed.
The fact that if you pause the game paimon will come out. the world surround you has stop but paimon isn't Nice theory btw And yes another venti theory let's goo
Then, is this the reason why venti has two different constellations in his seal when he awoken in the manga? I searched for the other archons' seals but found none so i dunnu if it's an important detail or not :3
Dear Aster. Recently i came across a channel i think you would find fascinating. It make psycho analysis of the characters of Teyvat and their history. Please consider taking a look. It’s VERY insightful of the motives of each character. The one for Venti is particularly eye opening. (The name of the channel is “ VoiceKeeper “ )
Is istaroth a reference to astaroth, a demon from the ars goetia. Astaroth is said to be able to destroy everything and istaroth can decay things with the passing if time like the book metaphor
every day goes by that i dont see he's beautiful eyes the more i know things are gonna go wild when we see him again~~~ thank you for this amazing Video~!! every time you talk about him i get so excited cause you have such spark in your voice!!!
I think this is the most complete theory put forth yet for the connections between Wind and Time. Thank you for finally putting all this together. I think each new region will tell us more of this connection until she's finally revealed. I wonder if more gods were born from the throne and it's shades.
paimon is an E.L.F. equipment living form I believe she is the elf of the sustainer. Titanomachy will answer alot of your archon questions. Silmarillon is Enkanomiya. Which since it was written by Tolkien it would be christianity's first appearance in Genshin.
so basicly you say paimon is a same creature like jingwei wings, klein and midnight elegy? this theory can make a hit if the theories that travelers is from project ARK from the old worl....
@@Nakokolol I think we will enter a multiverse idea, where star rail is the one that connects the bubble universes. Teyvat is a bubble universe created by someone (I am suspecting Keanna, due to Keanna telling Himeko that she will create a world that holds only beauty).
@@Nakokolol AI.Chan means ariticial intelligence friend (chan is friend) P.A.I.M.O.N. has the same AI in it, for artificial intelligence. if you look into the history of the ELFs you find the story of genshin impact.
You know... I think this plot of "Two powerful people/Kingdom fought against each other, the one who won erased the existence of the other from history" meaning, no one will be able to know what happened or how the current ruler came to existence... Looking at this running gag of "Erasing Memories from The World" is too much now .. Rukkadevata, Scaramouche ... And now it's very likely that Istaroth can hide her existence as well. Except Venti knows everything...? Could be a possibility. Personally? I think this Celestia is actually run by the "Second Who came" because the Primodial one is currently in a "dormant" state and Celestia is trying her best to nail down all of the four shades and the memories of them from the world... Maybe that's why Irumisul was created? To re-create fake information? And the Primodial one send down "The Nails" to kill the tree,... And stop it from creating fake memories and cleanse the land from the heavy destruction caused by their war..? And after that, Primodial one when into slumber or deep "dormant" and only one of the four shades was left to guard the world of Teyvat? And she created multiple shades of her own self to seek out the darkness caused by the "second one"...? And eventually lost her powers and went into a dormant mode before making sure she left some aid to the people, Barbatos. Maybe the cycle of rest and revive of Venti is foreshadowing of the return of the true Gods? And that's why Celestia is scared of the "gods" Istaroth created making them kill each other while the remaining them will be under her(Celestia's) reign? Could be...? Or I'm just rambling my theory xD
My current theory on Venti is that he has a lot of knowledge and does not see the need to share it... yet. There's a lot of mysterious things that could prove (and so far, have proven) important later that he might have more knowledge about than he lets on, like the words "The Gateway to Celestia" engraved upside-down and backwards at the foot of the Statue of Barbatos or the connections between "omni," Paimon, and the Statue of the Omnipresent God. Speaking of which, have you noticed how similar Istaroth and the Omnipresent God are? Eternity in itself is a concept closely related to time; perhaps there are more connections between the two than even the Shogun knows. Also, there are many hints towards the Statue of the Omnipresent God being from outside of Inazuma... possibly even from the forgotten island where that one Istaroth quest is picked up. If you couldn't tell, I am also a fan of the theory that Paimon is a shade of Istaroth, though I don't know if I'm the first to think of it. Especially with the connections between "omni," an element that mimics or replaces other elements according to Genius Invokation TCG, and Paimon, a mysterious fairy (?) from Teyvat with the "omni" symbol on her outfit. Also, it's unclear if she gives Traveler the ability to resonate with every element of Teyvat, but it is suggested by characters like Albedo and even Lyney that she acts as a sort of Vision or elemental catalyst. No one really understands what Paimon is, either, but people seem pretty unfazed by her floating and even refer to her as a "fairy" like they've seen others like her before. That confirms that she's from Teyvat, but it also suggests that she isn't exactly unique despite us, the players, never seeing or even hearing of other fairy-type things like her. Also, Mona can't read anything about Paimon from the stars, which implies that 1) Paimon might have a constellation and 2) Paimon is a deity like Venti, whose existence is equally unreadable to Mona. Actually, come to think of it, there's another possibility for Paimon's identity. She has literal galaxy eyes and a cape that looks like the night sky- maybe she is so deeply intertwined with the stars that Mona can't read her fate without seeing that of others, almost like Paimon is the night sky itself... And another thing: if any of my theories are true, it's likely that the only reason why Paimon hasn't said anything despite trusting the Traveler so much is that she literally doesn't remember being an omnipotent god. A little bit of research into her namesake confirms this: the Ars Goetia demon Paimon is stated to be extremely honest and never a liar, thus, if MiHoYo is staying true to her inspiration, the only way that Paimon could be a god of sorts without telling us is if, in some way, she erased herself from Irminsul Balladeer-style and cannot remember anything about herself. Oops. Didn't mean to go on a Paimon tangent on a Venti video. But I know how I got here- Paimon has connections to Istaroth via the Statue of the Omnipresent God and I like the theory that Paimon is a shade of Istaroth like Venti.
Theory: Barbatos is the weakest Archon because he is already dead. Or rather, that he sacrificed his life in order to attain some goal, ala Andrius. That would explain why he has lost most of his power despite the fact that he became an Archon-tier God because of the worship of his believers and Barbatos worship seems to still be strong and earnest in Monstadt. Not to mention that he seems to have a strong affinity to spirits of the dead from the Stanley quest, which doesn't seem to be something that is likely in Zhongli's or Ei's wheelhouses. As for what he did to achieve, I would guess that we don't have enough info on that matter yet. It might have been too protect the rest of Monstadt from Durin's poison, but that seems like it's too straightforward, narratively speaking.
The problem is being weakest Archon is what Venti said to traveler, no official or other source prove this is truth. Since Venti also told the traveler Barbatos had left Mondstardt for one thousand years when he first met the traveler, which definitely a lied. We can know Venti really lied and hide many things, so this weakest maybe also a lied too, sincr he had to "explain" why his Gnosis being got so easily.
i have a theory that venti is WAYYYY older than the other archons but just lived as nothing for many years, also i do find it weird that venti and the primodial one have very similar descreptions like how they are both androgynous and have wings, phanes also has a crown but the only thing close to a 'crown' is the golden feather and cecilia venti wears as barbatos. so i have a theory that venti might be one of phanes creations as shade, if we didnt know who the shade of death or life was i would prob say its venti but bc we know venti could just be a random creation of phanes. or they could be a creation both of the shade of time(istaroth) and death because the theory you made about venti being something like a god of death because people of mondstadt say that barbatos guides dead spirits and watches over them or the times where venti could make people fall 'asleep' with their voice also you could say that the true freedom of life is death and i dont mean violent death i mean the death that doesnt hurt, so we got the death part and about time it is weird venti knows the songs of the future past and present because to know them you need to be connected with time in some way or in generals there are times venti knows about whats going to happen next as you said (being awaken before smt really bad happens to mondtsdt) and if their mother is istaroth WHO IS THE FATHER? because venti IS the child of istaroth. So i belive venti was a shade of both istaroth and the shade of death (i also had a theory that venti might have powers to heal like he did with dvalin but not only heal but also give back lives of people but i i dont belive its correct bc if they could bring back people from death, they would bring back the nameless bard)
pre-fontaine aster: we've never seen a god give their power to another entity focalors: tee hee also we have seen someone do this before focalors! after saving dvalin, venti gave his. hence, dvalin saying "is this the power of the anemo archon?"
Question for Aster: Could the statues in Mondstadt and in Inazuma city be Istaroth? I'm curious since there is no statue in Liyue and it's likeness doesn't appear to match any particular Archon. The wings of the statue is what made me consider this since the Shades of Phanes are considered angels correct? I always thought it strange to see such well preserved statues in these 2 cities when there is no resemblance to the Archons. Normally such historical creations are pulled down and destroyed however both Venti and Ei seem to venerate them in a way. Venti who casually sits in the open hands of the statue in Mondstadt and Ei who actually implants Visions into the statue. Any thoughts on this theory or who the Statue might be of if I'm incorrect? I'm actually quite curious to know what the connection could be and why they still remain in such public locations.
More like Venti was a shade[more like a child]of 'God of Moment' since Istaroth/Kairos, in greek means an opportune/right/critical moment. It is also stated ig that Kairos was present in every moment. God of time is more likely Chronos(Phanes was born from it's egg{according to orphic mythology}). "Chronos" is measured and counted while "Kairos is lived is experienced.
Paimon is phanes. That’s proven. When zhongli and venti acted like they didn’t know eachother at dinner. venti said „… or maybe is it because I’m so good at hiding?“ the god of time is hidden in the lyre, that’s how venti could present Barbara some lyre that was actually broken, it stayed like that for a time/moment, venti said. Maybe this also includes why he has two eye color
Imagine if istaroth is actually the traveler lol like what if istaroth separated herself into two shades lumine and aether. Thats why it wouldnt matter which twin you chose because its the same person and why venti seems to know the traveler.
From what I gathered, The best way to describe her is being a "constant". She's everywhere and nowhere at once because time is such a mystery, like how the tree was relative to both the person in the domain and outside the domain.
This is purely speculation but I like the idea that Istaroth will actually die at some point in the story and Venti will get her powers or maybe fuse with her or simply become the new Istaroth.
Great theory! But can i please ask you tone down the background music or make yourself louder? I could barely understand what you're saying cause the music was too loud
maybe paimon is also a shade since she has something to do with time, maybe among life, death, time, and logic, it's Death since she only allows you to go forward through time? (I didn't do enough research and idk if paimon's time thing can allow you to go back)
Maybe Paimon isn't a shade of the/a Guoba'd Sustainer of Heavenly Principles/The Unknown God. Her Triquetra symbol's flipped, after all, which has several different possible connotations. It could still have a relation though.
Dvalin beat durin, huh. Did you see how big durin compared to dvalin. We are the size of durins pupils(based on the skull in Dragonspine). Its like a chuahua vs. tibetan mastif.
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you can take any genshin lore drop and theres a 90% chance that it might be connected to venti fr
Venti just makes up 80-90% of the lore at this point lol
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Venti after being in everyones life: thats what she said
Omg venti is everywhere .....
that’s what she said…
I wonder if Paimon, herself, was ”Guoba-ed” into her present self from a former god like Marchosius was. Apparently, losing your powers makes you very smol
...and very stupid
@@mattmark94 Paimon seems to know a whole lot more than she lets on. I think she's just playing dumb.
Thats why she`s always eating to regain her powers
@@mattmark94 Well, as annoying Paimon can be, she and Guoba have the benefit of the doubt as they are in amnesiac state right now.
@@nicolbolasplaneswalker2106 paimon I'd a sussy Baka confirm
Venti definitely knows what the heck is a Paimon. He is just pretending he doesn't know who she really is. The true extent of what he knows is hidden on purpose. An interesting thing about Venti is that he goes to sleep whenever Monstadt is at peace. He only awakens when Monstadt's freedom is threatened. So far in the story he is still awake, meaning there is still future danger. Perhaps he has a similar power to the god of time and senses that freedom of his people is being threatened. Something big is going to happen soon that seems to need the Anemo Archon's attention.
he was asleep during the aristocracy of the lawrence clan though
@@vernonsbible3413 and he waked up during it to help his people
@@dustytoyknife2343 yeah. he woke up after many years passed since the aristocracy started.
He went to sleep after using his power actually 👍
@@vernonsbible3413 and IT'S NOT like he has full control for sleeping for a long time, afterall in the manga, he even questioned HOW LONG did he slept.
STILL he went and help his people again ( and pyro archon's people/muratans) who are in danger DESPITE being an absent god. it is NOT also a problem that he created himself unlike in Liyue and in Inazuma where their archons created the ''problem'' in the first place.
I wonder if Istaroth actually has a whole lot of shades, some weaker than others, which is why she was referred to as the thousand winds. Venti says that he has heard all songs of the past and future, and that he and Dvalin used to listen to the songs of the wind. Maybe the winds themselves act like a network across time. Seelies also have wind like forms and were known for singing, but their history is more complicated than that so it might not have any relevance. Idk, I feel like mondstadt being known as the city of "wind and song" could more important than it sounds
Barbatos' statue have, in it's base, the saying "gateway to celestia", and have it hands poited not towards Mondstad's gate but to that wormhole at Cape Oath that lead us to Musk Reef. Coincidence? I tink not.
(Personal theory time: The first celestia lost the war and was casted into the Abyss, and now the second Celestia kills whoever find out that they are the usurper' usurper...)
I’ve been thinking about this, too. There was the second throne, after all. What if it was the one that actually won, placing Teyvat under “new management.” From what we know, there was a time when Celestia was more benevolent to Teyvat, but at some point they started ignoring the peoples’ cries for help
Agree since the enkanomiyans only assume that the primordial one defeated the second who came, i doubt that the god of time knows coz i think she's already in enkanomiya when the enkanomiyans were banned from the surface
if your theory is true, then may be the royal siblings from the battle pass maybe the ones at the top of celestia and the abyss.
Also, I can be wrong cuz it's still 8 am here but today doing Viktor's commission in Mond I went flying from the church and open the map to teleport away then I noticed that Venti statue on the map and the surrounding circle awfully reminded me of a clock with the wings looking like its pointing some hour. Again I might still be sleepy but can somebody else also see? 😂😂
Istg Venti is the most sus archon he seems to know so much
IKR, he has the most odd voicelines one!
I agree, just like the voiceline he has about Celestia
If this was true, if Venti is really a part of the God of Time then it proves the speculation about Venti during the time that his Gnosis was being taken away by Signora that he knew what needed to happen so that's why he didn't really put an effort in defending his Gnosis
Bit why should he be ,,okay" with taking the power from him?
I dont understand why he did nothing
@@blattsee6095 personally I think that if he is the god of time, he can see into different timelines (sorta like dr strange but this could also be a timeloop, but that can happen simultaneously to him being the god of time) and that giving Signora ensures the least possible causalties or damages in the future
@@TeamKatniss4Ever I slightly disagree. I think that he's currently holding the memories of the goddess of time. Who is secretly Paimon. At some point in the story Venti is to give paimon her memories back, at which point she will once again become the goddess of time. This is being done in some sort of a plan to defeat Asmodays (The Sustainer of Heavenly Principles).
@@rallyfan101 Thats actually a solid theory, I never thought of it like that - its definitely a good possibility
Listened to this while I did a 10 pull, thank you for giving me Cocogoat
New wishing ritual confirmed?😳
This is…scary
The anemo god blessed you 😭🙏
i gotta try this omg
Ughhh why did you do this. I'm trying to save for Yae lol
If I recall correctly Andrius (was once a powerful God) got his powers from an ancient God, so I don't think that transferings one powers to another, isn't entirely impossible.
Ok wait. I had just told my friend about Venti and his probable relation to being "time itself" because aside from the sundials located only in Mondstadt, he also said, "there is not a song i don't know, whether it's from the past, the present or the future." And how he appears to Mondstadt when it's in very very dire - totally needs godly intervention moments - he is suspiciously there. To say that he's been asleep this whole while but is suspiciously able to attend/witness important events is just very... Well... Sus. Also, i remembered that Dainsleif himself mentioned something about "seeds being planted long before" (i think it was something like that) but whether that was about the traveller or it was about how the current story in game is slowly unfolding - the events, the archons, the abyss - i am not sure. At that time, i thought it was about the traveller and how all these upcoming events has been prepared for the coming of the twins but it could also be that the twins are just catalyst to the beginning of it. I was thinking, could Venti have been awaiting for the Traveller's awakening and the start of the game's story? We know, as players who see the angles of the events, that something big is brewing, then is Barbatos being awake a actually sign? My friend mentioned something about Mondstadt being suspicious and i recall the other rpg games i've played. The story always goes back to where it begun. Like a fulfilling the loop of a circle. The 1st town is where something big shows up, and we're feeling like "it was all under our nose this whole time!!!!" That, and also feeling the same thing with Paimon.
But it was just a random thing i playfully mentioned to her while we were both simping over Venti. And now im seeing this. Even further talking about him being a shade. I haven't finished Enkanomiya yet so i have no idea about that Phanes and primordial one but damn. If that is all in there... The fact that Enkanomiya quest is "just" a world quest saddens me. I wish it were like the archon quest where we can revisit the dialogues and all. Im not really that good at remembering things and i feel like this Phanes thing is going to be like info-dumped to my dummy brain.
Another fact that support the theory is when Venti "fixed" the Lyre and said that it would not stay like that forever. That can mean he didn't repair the lyre but just reversed the time back at one point the lyre wasn't broken so with time passing it would end breaking again
this seems plausible but i read this book series and in it wind magic was always associated with illusions (bending light using air) so he could have just made a fake fixed lyre
in my opinion venti has has abilities like herrshecer of sentience from honkai impact, where herrshecer of sentience who i will call as HoS, can make an illusion from feathers and when i see venti charged attack and how he teleport make a feathers.., so if my theory was true that mean venti can create a dreamspace, an enternal illusion and can make a weapon become real by just imagining its, which is make him very OP
So, I am not the only person who thinks that Venti relates heavily with time because he says he knows all songs.
Also, Barbados may not be the most powerful Archon by getting his power from his gnosis, but he may be very powerful just like as a normal god.
If the sets are to be trusted he can very easily just king crimson (skipping time) to kill any and all opponents
@@maninhu9837 🤣
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Istaroth: she is an icon 🙄✋ she is a legend 😎⭐ and she is the moment 😔💅 now come now 😒✨
Is that why he's always so shade-y??.....
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
I don’t think ei sacrificed her physical form for makoto, she fought alongside her and I was under the impression that ei took her physical form away when makoto died and she entered the plane of euthymia
Ei sacrificed her phsyical form during the archon war before Makoto's ascension. This was so that Makoto becomes the Electro Archon formally.
Treasured Tales of the Chouken Shinkageuchi
Thus, she chose to give up her bodily form, helping her sister to ascend to the "heavenly citadel" and obtain dominion over Inazuma. Shortly after, the True Shogun, "Makoto," set up her Shogunate and began to rule over the land. Remembering their bond, she recalled "Ei"'s divine will and reforged her body, thus returning her sister to her side once more as her kagemusha.
@@ChillwithAster Where did you find this info?
@@Jullieett9 Treasured Tales of the Chouken Shinkageuchi
@@ChillwithAster that doesn't really fit with everything else we have been told though, and would mean Ei gives her form but has some sort of continued existence, then Motoko makes her a new body, then Motoko dies, Ei rules and fears the effect of time one her body, makes her puppet Raiden Shogun and puts her consciousness I her sword, giving up her body twice.
The conditions of the Archon war is the gods either fight, leave or submit to the Archon. Ei doesn't have to give up her body for her sister to be Archon. It seems more like another unreliable story unless it gets some other source.
@@101Mant I mean, I have no idea either. This means that Makoto managed to retain the existence of Ei / revive her to make her become the Kagemusha. I don't even know what a KAGEMUSHA even is since it's alluded that 1. there is one baal in the eyes of the people 2. the imagery shows that they are parallel
NGL, I really like the idea of Venti being related to/originated by the the god of time alongside Paimon being the god of time *_SPECIFICALLY_* for the meme worthy reasoning that there's a decent chance that... cannonically, Paimon could be Venti's dad.
Such a mental picture is simply too funny.
I reeeaaallly wish it ends up being cannon just for that.
That just suddenly reminded me of that time Venti immitated Paimon in mock voice back when we were about to face off Dvalin. 🤣🤣🤣
I think this theory is real because in the Weinlesefest event, Venti said that he breathed so hard so that the winds in the past can arrive in the present times and that's why Razor saw his parents. This just proves that Venti has a control on time.
Let's break down what time is on a physics standpoint. Time is basically what clocks measure. What time actually is is energy going from point A to point B which means it has a path to go that's why we need space and why it's called spacetime. So time can be seen as the movement of everything like the movement of the wind. And this path can be stretched or squished. A longer path makes energy take longer to reach it's destination while a shorter path does the opposite. That's why under the right conditions time seems to slow down at some places while at other places it speeds up. The only way to do a noticeable effect like that is by traveling at light speed or the influence of gravity. And what was Venti's ult again? Right! A black hole. A very strong gravitational force that has nothing else than a singularity inside.
Also something really interesting: The Byakuyakoku collection mentions the God of Time as the mother of everything since 14 billion years. And we know what happened 14 billion years ago. It was the big bang. A whole universe expanded from a single singularity. The God of Time exists since then because the big bang marks the beginning of time.
Most fans seem to look through Genshin's lore only on a fantasy and mythology standpoint but there is actually a lot of cosmology integrated but in a way that mostly just people who are experts in this field can notice it.
Am I the only one who's thinking that the wall in domain represent the creation of the world Teyvat? A winged creature with horns at the top (for me it looks like Phanes?) , the moon with the Triskele , and another tiny winged creature with a crown (Paimon?) who protect the seed of the world tree (Phanes egg?)
Great theory! Though I would suggest that Kairos might not be THE God of Time, rather a God of the Moment. I think everybody is forgetting about Chronos, greek god of time, and about the actual difference between the words "chronos" (time as we know it, the one you can measure) and "kairos" (a moment; a piece of time of intermediate length marked because of it's significance; and also weather) in ancient greek language. The most peculiar thing though is that in Orphic theogony (which is heavily referenced in Enkanomiya lore) it was Chronos who created the World Egg, from which Phanes was born, who then created the world from the egg's shell.
In genshin, when I say Kairos, I'm alluding to the character known as the Ruler of Time (by mortals) and God of Time (Sacrificial Sword. Whether there's a chronos character is still unknown, but if I have to guess, there wouldn't be. I think Genshin just got inspiration from Kairos (greek mythology) and combined elements of Chronos into a single character.
Omg this would make so much sense now. Just think with me: “what is freedom when demanded of you by a god?” This sentence might not be talking about the people of Mondstat alone, but also about Barbatos. Since he’s a shade, and istaroth created him to be a god who release mondstat’s people, he’s the least free of them all, because Venti is always working on his task to give them the freedom that istaroth demanded of him. And that’s why he’s such a unusual god, and the bounds of celestia fells different on him.
Wow, so cool to hear someone speaking about this theory! Thank you! I was having major sus at Venti after visiting that island off Mondstadt and learning that he knows "Every song in existence" since that kind of skill just had to have some "time powers" mixed in. Those ruins of the "thousand winds temple" also looked sus and much older then even Old Mondstadt, which too implied stuff... and then we've got the lore-dump in Enkonomiya and we learned what we learned... damn, Genshin lore is so exciting =)
I love this ! It also reminded me of how Alice is described as near omnipresent by albedo ? idk why lol
i have read somewhere that she is not a native from teyvat and can travel from world to world too just like the traveler. she was also able to enter the haar islands which is very impossible to do.
I watched this video yesterday and today i was just watching reactions to all character demos and found out that in venti's character demo when the lyre is shown there's written "Full of mystery, BORN FROM THE BRANCHES OF TIME, a history of glory and sorrow, and witness to the divine". Reading that immediately thought of this video.
Oh yeah! This was the new lore theory that had Venti stans on Twitter losing their shit (including me lol) :'D
Edit : I think we need an update of this topic- cuz recently, (Mi)Hoyoverse just CASUALLY name drop Istaroth's name near the end of Ei's archon quest & I was like "the fuck did I just read???"😭😭
Aster is back at it again with her spectacular theories💖✨
Someone need to pay those wine comrades.
Ik u guys probably know about this but have u guys met the npc in inazuma city that talks about a fictional character in a story who can stop time? It has no lore content but it feels like MHY teasing the lore community
Angst thought: what if the god of time used to poke fun and call venti tone deaf bard and paimon in her chibi form (if the paimon is like guoba theory is correct) unconsciously recreates that
Now this is the theory I find interesting and can even accept (unlike Dain/Pierro one)
yeah I didn’t believe that one but I think aster wasn’t trying to prove a point but rather think out loud and point out the similarities because why not
I agree. I think this holds grounds further than the Dain/Pierro theory
3:08 Kairos (καιρός in Greek) could also be translated as weather and some times is used to symbolize the time/passage of time
🌸🌺It could be noted of Venti, that betwixt what is known and not known of his person’s, the width of a vast ocean persist🌺🌸
I actually really like this theory and how it affect's Venti's character!
this comment is late but i got excited thinking about this. mostly relates to the archon powers that we've seen thus far and possibly further evidence for venti's connection to the god of time. zhongli, ei, and ventis ult all relate to space. zhongli's meteor, ei's slashes depicting galaxies, and venti's ult resemblance of a black. even in venti idol animation, he holds something akin to a mini black hole. within science, time and space are fudemental part of our existence. when we look at dimensions, like 2d and 3d, the first 3 dimensions are associated with space. some scientists believe the forth dimension is actually time. black holes are a place still mysterious to us and many theories exist on it. but the rules of time space may be different and could possibly alter the space and time around itself.
Makes me think of the dialogue venti has when he greets you like if he has known you
Hmmm..........
If he is a shade of the time god or something of her creation i don't think Celestia would just let him go
Since the time god is basically erased/ forgotten from history i think he/she have disappeared from this world due to unknown circumstances
I think venti does hav time powers not as much as the actual time god but a fraction as he does say that he knows songs from past present and future which could imply that he can foresee stuff from past and future but that's the extent of his power
If this is true then it would make sense that venti is someone that Celestia can't let roam free and him being scared of those 3 Celestia people is part of it
What if Celestia wants to monopolies his time powers but ad an Archon they can't just take him away and that's what the time god was after
I think this because we are un aware of who currently holds power over Celestia is it the 1st throne or the 2nd throne. So it is possible that the 3 shadowy figures are the shades of the second throne. Which could imply that 1st throne and his shades are not here, could be that the time god is the only surving shade of the 1sy throne, as Venti does mention 3 others sacrificing themselves
My HC & theory thread along that paimon is Istaroth that got guobafied due to some reason, because unlike sustainer, sustainer doesn't have "crown". We see this crown in domain, there are 5, one for phanes, ( the middle ) and 4 for their shades. I assume sustainer is a decoy, it is celestia's guard dog, she might be something created by other shades
Paimon wear the crown actually show her status in teyvat, she is a GUIDE, that is fond with humanity, especially their food & help us change time. The celestia we know now is the "second throne" while istaroth herself came directly from primodial one which make her at least, "first throne" or near original at some point, maybe, she foresee what happened to teyvat in the future & decide she will help in a form the heaven won't notice while creating one of her own shade (venti) as archon to help out people
after reading "before sun and moon" book, now i asume the old Mondstadt is one faith as the enkanomiyan the God of time"the thousand wind", thousand wind temple is used to pray for her. not anemo god.
after Venti rule mondstad they are save nation under the Seven, other who flee into Dragonspine still workshiping the old god, got destroyed.
The fact that if you pause the game paimon will come out. the world surround you has stop but paimon isn't
Nice theory btw
And yes another venti theory let's goo
Can she pause time in coop:3?
@@detectivecakeheta5615 Idk
Then, is this the reason why venti has two different constellations in his seal when he awoken in the manga? I searched for the other archons' seals but found none so i dunnu if it's an important detail or not :3
"We always had enough time" Lost Sibling to MC -> Siblings are the gods of time, thats also why there is 2 sun-dials
Dear Aster. Recently i came across a channel i think you would find fascinating. It make psycho analysis of the characters of Teyvat and their history. Please consider taking a look. It’s VERY insightful of the motives of each character. The one for Venti is particularly eye opening. (The name of the channel is “ VoiceKeeper “ )
Is istaroth a reference to astaroth, a demon from the ars goetia.
Astaroth is said to be able to destroy everything and istaroth can decay things with the passing if time like the book metaphor
You used the greek definition of Kairos, i am touched friend, keep up the good work!
Heeeeeeeeey been following u for a few months now. Your my favorite genshin theorist and you personality is contagious!
Aww that's so sweet of you thank you so much for the support :D
@@ChillwithAster Thank YOU for being 👏 amazing 👏
theories make me realize how smart and important venti is to the lore
theres this fortune telling ghost kid in enkanomiya who cant tell travelers fortune, similar to mona
I thought that kid was reading Paimon's fortune... OAO
I wonder if all this knowledge/secrets he has to bear is the reason why he drinks so much, a temporary relief.
every day goes by that i dont see he's beautiful eyes the more i know things are gonna go wild when we see him again~~~ thank you for this amazing Video~!!
every time you talk about him i get so excited cause you have such spark in your voice!!!
And now there's his whole, apparently nation-wide Winds of Time feat from the end of the Wine Festival.
I think this is the most complete theory put forth yet for the connections between Wind and Time. Thank you for finally putting all this together.
I think each new region will tell us more of this connection until she's finally revealed. I wonder if more gods were born from the throne and it's shades.
paimon is an E.L.F. equipment living form
I believe she is the elf of the sustainer.
Titanomachy will answer alot of your archon questions.
Silmarillon is Enkanomiya. Which since it was written by Tolkien it would be christianity's first appearance in Genshin.
now that I think about it paimon may be the elf to the travellers missing sword from the openning cinematic.
so basicly you say paimon is a same creature like jingwei wings, klein and midnight elegy? this theory can make a hit if the theories that travelers is from project ARK from the old worl....
@@Nakokolol I think we will enter a multiverse idea, where star rail is the one that connects the bubble universes. Teyvat is a bubble universe created by someone (I am suspecting Keanna, due to Keanna telling Himeko that she will create a world that holds only beauty).
@@Nakokolol AI.Chan means ariticial intelligence friend (chan is friend) P.A.I.M.O.N. has the same AI in it, for artificial intelligence. if you look into the history of the ELFs you find the story of genshin impact.
@@Nakokolol elf also stands for equipment living form.
You know... I think this plot of "Two powerful people/Kingdom fought against each other, the one who won erased the existence of the other from history" meaning, no one will be able to know what happened or how the current ruler came to existence... Looking at this running gag of "Erasing Memories from The World" is too much now .. Rukkadevata, Scaramouche ... And now it's very likely that Istaroth can hide her existence as well. Except Venti knows everything...? Could be a possibility.
Personally? I think this Celestia is actually run by the "Second Who came" because the Primodial one is currently in a "dormant" state and Celestia is trying her best to nail down all of the four shades and the memories of them from the world... Maybe that's why Irumisul was created? To re-create fake information? And the Primodial one send down "The Nails" to kill the tree,... And stop it from creating fake memories and cleanse the land from the heavy destruction caused by their war..?
And after that, Primodial one when into slumber or deep "dormant" and only one of the four shades was left to guard the world of Teyvat? And she created multiple shades of her own self to seek out the darkness caused by the "second one"...? And eventually lost her powers and went into a dormant mode before making sure she left some aid to the people, Barbatos.
Maybe the cycle of rest and revive of Venti is foreshadowing of the return of the true Gods? And that's why Celestia is scared of the "gods" Istaroth created making them kill each other while the remaining them will be under her(Celestia's) reign?
Could be...? Or I'm just rambling my theory xD
You're half asleep and your brain is making think Big Brain Thoughts.
Not gonna lie, this was really eye opening.
i was about to enjoy this video but my school had a fire 😭
For real or just a drill?
@@wolfstormwizard424 fr, it stopped though thankfully
My current theory on Venti is that he has a lot of knowledge and does not see the need to share it... yet.
There's a lot of mysterious things that could prove (and so far, have proven) important later that he might have more knowledge about than he lets on, like the words "The Gateway to Celestia" engraved upside-down and backwards at the foot of the Statue of Barbatos or the connections between "omni," Paimon, and the Statue of the Omnipresent God.
Speaking of which, have you noticed how similar Istaroth and the Omnipresent God are? Eternity in itself is a concept closely related to time; perhaps there are more connections between the two than even the Shogun knows.
Also, there are many hints towards the Statue of the Omnipresent God being from outside of Inazuma... possibly even from the forgotten island where that one Istaroth quest is picked up.
If you couldn't tell, I am also a fan of the theory that Paimon is a shade of Istaroth, though I don't know if I'm the first to think of it. Especially with the connections between "omni," an element that mimics or replaces other elements according to Genius Invokation TCG, and Paimon, a mysterious fairy (?) from Teyvat with the "omni" symbol on her outfit. Also, it's unclear if she gives Traveler the ability to resonate with every element of Teyvat, but it is suggested by characters like Albedo and even Lyney that she acts as a sort of Vision or elemental catalyst. No one really understands what Paimon is, either, but people seem pretty unfazed by her floating and even refer to her as a "fairy" like they've seen others like her before. That confirms that she's from Teyvat, but it also suggests that she isn't exactly unique despite us, the players, never seeing or even hearing of other fairy-type things like her. Also, Mona can't read anything about Paimon from the stars, which implies that 1) Paimon might have a constellation and 2) Paimon is a deity like Venti, whose existence is equally unreadable to Mona.
Actually, come to think of it, there's another possibility for Paimon's identity. She has literal galaxy eyes and a cape that looks like the night sky- maybe she is so deeply intertwined with the stars that Mona can't read her fate without seeing that of others, almost like Paimon is the night sky itself...
And another thing: if any of my theories are true, it's likely that the only reason why Paimon hasn't said anything despite trusting the Traveler so much is that she literally doesn't remember being an omnipotent god. A little bit of research into her namesake confirms this: the Ars Goetia demon Paimon is stated to be extremely honest and never a liar, thus, if MiHoYo is staying true to her inspiration, the only way that Paimon could be a god of sorts without telling us is if, in some way, she erased herself from Irminsul Balladeer-style and cannot remember anything about herself.
Oops. Didn't mean to go on a Paimon tangent on a Venti video. But I know how I got here- Paimon has connections to Istaroth via the Statue of the Omnipresent God and I like the theory that Paimon is a shade of Istaroth like Venti.
Theory: Barbatos is the weakest Archon because he is already dead. Or rather, that he sacrificed his life in order to attain some goal, ala Andrius.
That would explain why he has lost most of his power despite the fact that he became an Archon-tier God because of the worship of his believers and Barbatos worship seems to still be strong and earnest in Monstadt. Not to mention that he seems to have a strong affinity to spirits of the dead from the Stanley quest, which doesn't seem to be something that is likely in Zhongli's or Ei's wheelhouses.
As for what he did to achieve, I would guess that we don't have enough info on that matter yet. It might have been too protect the rest of Monstadt from Durin's poison, but that seems like it's too straightforward, narratively speaking.
The problem is being weakest Archon is what Venti said to traveler, no official or other source prove this is truth.
Since Venti also told the traveler Barbatos had left Mondstardt for one thousand years when he first met the traveler, which definitely a lied.
We can know Venti really lied and hide many things, so this weakest maybe also a lied too, sincr he had to "explain" why his Gnosis being got so easily.
Oooh so early, also VENTI THEORY YESS
i have a theory that venti is WAYYYY older than the other archons but just lived as nothing for many years, also i do find it weird that venti and the primodial one have very similar descreptions like how they are both androgynous and have wings, phanes also has a crown but the only thing close to a 'crown' is the golden feather and cecilia venti wears as barbatos. so i have a theory that venti might be one of phanes creations as shade, if we didnt know who the shade of death or life was i would prob say its venti but bc we know venti could just be a random creation of phanes. or they could be a creation both of the shade of time(istaroth) and death because the theory you made about venti being something like a god of death because people of mondstadt say that barbatos guides dead spirits and watches over them or the times where venti could make people fall 'asleep' with their voice also you could say that the true freedom of life is death and i dont mean violent death i mean the death that doesnt hurt, so we got the death part and about time it is weird venti knows the songs of the future past and present because to know them you need to be connected with time in some way or in generals there are times venti knows about whats going to happen next as you said (being awaken before smt really bad happens to mondtsdt) and if their mother is istaroth WHO IS THE FATHER? because venti IS the child of istaroth. So i belive venti was a shade of both istaroth and the shade of death (i also had a theory that venti might have powers to heal like he did with dvalin but not only heal but also give back lives of people but i i dont belive its correct bc if they could bring back people from death, they would bring back the nameless bard)
and at the time we need him the most, he vanished
Goodbye paimon god of time theory, hello paimon shade of sustainer theory
THANK YOU!!! This is exactly what I've been thinking about as well, this was a great analysis and a very well put together theory (as usual)!
pre-fontaine aster: we've never seen a god give their power to another entity
focalors: tee hee
also we have seen someone do this before focalors! after saving dvalin, venti gave his. hence, dvalin saying "is this the power of the anemo archon?"
there is so heavy association between istaroth and wind and stories that there is no way venti isn't involved with her in some way
YAAASSSS ANOTHER ASTER THEORY🥰🥰
Question for Aster: Could the statues in Mondstadt and in Inazuma city be Istaroth? I'm curious since there is no statue in Liyue and it's likeness doesn't appear to match any particular Archon. The wings of the statue is what made me consider this since the Shades of Phanes are considered angels correct? I always thought it strange to see such well preserved statues in these 2 cities when there is no resemblance to the Archons. Normally such historical creations are pulled down and destroyed however both Venti and Ei seem to venerate them in a way. Venti who casually sits in the open hands of the statue in Mondstadt and Ei who actually implants Visions into the statue. Any thoughts on this theory or who the Statue might be of if I'm incorrect? I'm actually quite curious to know what the connection could be and why they still remain in such public locations.
More like Venti was a shade[more like a child]of 'God of Moment' since Istaroth/Kairos, in greek means an opportune/right/critical moment. It is also stated ig that Kairos was present in every moment. God of time is more likely Chronos(Phanes was born from it's egg{according to orphic mythology}). "Chronos" is measured and counted while "Kairos is lived is experienced.
Your venti voice is spot on. Holy shit.
Paimon is phanes. That’s proven. When zhongli and venti acted like they didn’t know eachother at dinner. venti said „… or maybe is it because I’m so good at hiding?“ the god of time is hidden in the lyre, that’s how venti could present Barbara some lyre that was actually broken, it stayed like that for a time/moment, venti said. Maybe this also includes why he has two eye color
If this theory turns out to be true, does it make venti the most powerful archon?
I really hope so-
Early for once! I haven't even watched the video yet, but I can already tell it's amazing.
Love this theory EXCELLENT job Aster!!!
Imagine if istaroth is actually the traveler lol like what if istaroth separated herself into two shades lumine and aether. Thats why it wouldnt matter which twin you chose because its the same person and why venti seems to know the traveler.
Sleepdeprivity is a blessing and a curse....
Well, Istaroth seems to still be around, she was indirectly mention in Ei's Story Quest Part 2
From what I gathered, The best way to describe her is being a
"constant". She's everywhere and nowhere at once because time is such a mystery, like how the tree was relative to both the person in the domain and outside the domain.
My theory is the nameless bard was the god of time/instances. Because songs are instances.
This is purely speculation but I like the idea that Istaroth will actually die at some point in the story and Venti will get her powers or maybe fuse with her or simply become the new Istaroth.
Woah I enjoyed this video while doing math homework thank you it's so beautifully made ♡
Venti is giving me Pariah vibes. Like he has to witness whenever there is something bad about to happen
i mean his character trailer literally says he's born from the branches of time
pretty based theory, I like it!
that venti voice acting was amazing
Wind is ever moving just like time! So there might be a connection here.
Great theory! But can i please ask you tone down the background music or make yourself louder? I could barely understand what you're saying cause the music was too loud
I havent played for a month and i already missed so much in game lore.
happy febuary :)
Phanes looks like a biblical accurate angel
Something I wonder about is why the sundials in Mondstadt point east. They're supposed to point north.
maybe paimon is also a shade since she has something to do with time, maybe among life, death, time, and logic, it's Death since she only allows you to go forward through time?
(I didn't do enough research and idk if paimon's time thing can allow you to go back)
10:47 I LAUGHED SO HARD HERE OMG😂😂😂😂😂
Dude ur college essay must have been cracked
Maybe Paimon isn't a shade of the/a Guoba'd Sustainer of Heavenly Principles/The Unknown God. Her Triquetra symbol's flipped, after all, which has several different possible connotations. It could still have a relation though.
Dvalin beat durin, huh. Did you see how big durin compared to dvalin. We are the size of durins pupils(based on the skull in Dragonspine). Its like a chuahua vs. tibetan mastif.
13:14 as we know something BIG is about to heppen, not in Monst, but in Sumeru instead.
I saw on the wiki that you can actually hear a female voice talking quietly during the nameless island quest.. does anyone remember this?
Wait wat when!?
About power transfer
Didn't Andrius get his powers from a god?
Love the vid, but can you turn the music down it's too loud over your voice
Could you explore the idea that the travellers could be shades of phanes?
Ishstaroth is the god of moment because is also called kairos wich is different from kronos and could be the omnipresent god
POG!
New viddddd!!!