Love the slip test....Really shows the true nature of a vehicle's all wheel drive system. The 3 wheel test with the rollers on the primary axle is the acid test! Please keep doing this test.
Does this not have the torsen differentials in the axles? Or is that only the center diff? something isn't right here-- Torsen's should not slip while being driven.
@@calholli It doesn't have center diff at all, there's a clutch pack. If there was torsen - it would be slipping much more. Front and rear diffs are open.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers From what I've seen, the torsen's don't slip once they are being driven. They are free to spin at different speeds around corners, but once the engine is driving power into them, they lock up-- because it uses a type of worm gear; that can slip one direction, but not the other. I assumed that all Audi quattro systems used this.. apparently they have different set ups. Why they still call it "quattro is beyond me. smh.
@@rayathasan3197 Don't the A4 and A5 also have Haldex? Not the S ones though. It's tough to tell tbh. My A6 is really good, but the traction control programming sucks. It's best in dynamic mode with traction control off.
@@OviWanKeno9i dont think so, because the A3 a1 are mostly vw based, rest r audi based , coz they have options for torque converter gearbox, meaning real quattro
I love the slip tests, some of my favorite videos. The A6 line is some of the best-looking cars made right now. If I could afford a $70k+ car I'm pretty confident it would be one of the A6 models.
I have to say that I used to be more of a fan of this test. The test of the Y seemed to suggest that the front wouldn’t get power if the rears were spinning. After a winter of driving in snowy Park City, I have yet to experience any situation where my Y didn’t seem to send power to the front so close to instantaneously that it truly feels like rear-biased AWD to me. My V90 Cross Country has yet to find a situation where it can’t get traction in the snow. Both have snow tires. Although my Allroad was the earlier version, we never had an issue with traction in snow and mud in VT. I have no doubt that you can get any car stuck if you try hard enough, I truly wonder if this test is really just a test of this test and not really all that applicable to real world low traction situations. I do definitely believe you guys are treating all cars the same - this is not a comment about your honesty or independence.
@gdubb420gw I have a 2021 Yukon Denali 4wd and there is an auto setting, 4 high, 4 low, and 2 high. I just wanted to see how it would perform in all of the tests compared to a regular awd system
With my 2017 S5 Holding the traction control button for 10 seconds. Which fully defeats it makes a huge difference in Winter driving in Colorado. Wonder if this one would have acted better if you had defeated the ESC?
I have the Audi E tron Quattro 50 and I was enjoying the car and its pretty fast I speed up on turns a little to see the handling Its crazy to see how good that car performs
In the EU, these wagons and their VW brothers are very popular as people there do care how their vehicles drive. These vehicles do amazing in the snow when equipped with snow tires.
Great Video! Its interesting to see how the drive modes are dramatically changing the awd performance. My 2016 Q5 doesnt have any drive modes so id be curious to see if the more basic of the traditional Quattro systems will do better.
The true "quattro" system with the torsen diffs will do far better. It uses a "worm gear" type setup, so the wheels can slip while going around corners, but when the engine is driving them, they will lock every time. I thought all audi "quattro's used that old system, but I guess not. They just use the name to fool me. smh
@@calholli Thats why I ended up getting a 2016 (it was sold in Feb of 2017) and not the updated 2018 with the haldex quattro system, that and they were a bit to expensive and I don't like the looks too much compared to my year.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers The Quattro Ultra is practically the same as the a3/tt's haldex quattro system the 'quattro ultra' is just for the longitudinally mounted engines, ie. the new Q5's. Thats essentially what a Haldex system is, its front wheel drive until it senses slip then uses clutch packs to decouple the rear driveshaft, among a few other things.
@@cameraz99 that's interesting 🤔. Which models have you been driving. I started with the b7 followed by the b8 and b9. I think the quattro system on the b7 was more sorted than the b9 which gets a little tail happy if you give it the beans in snow.
To take issue with Tommy's comment about buying a 3 row Audi suv over this for about the same money......this car will spank any suv in a zoom zoom comparison. Some care, some don't.
@@kyleb5518 yeah.... Does this not have the torsen differentials in the axles? Or is that only the center diff? something isn't right here-- It shouldn't slip at all while the wheels are being driven . I guess this isnt' the "real deal" original quattro with all torsen diffs.
@@calholli There was no quattro system with all torsen diffs, ever. There was only one car in the history of Audi which had two torsen diffs. Other models used only one (center).
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I don't know much about Audi.. The only "quattro" I've heard of was when they first came out with it on their off road rally racing cars; and they were a big deal back then. I see the 'quattro" name on all kinds of audi stuff/ I just assumed that meant that they were putting that torsen system in everything. I guess the marketing team got me good, being an outsider looking in. Why call your set up "quattro" if you're just yet another brake actuated traction control, and a clutch diff? Its just like everything else out there. The Acura "SH-AWD system is far better that these.. The old torsen is likely the best solution, but apparently they don't even use them. lol fml
@@calholli If you go this way then quattro with torsen shoudn't be called "quattro" to. Why? Because there was no torsen in original quattro which you mentioned. Actually, rally versions didn't even have a center differential. They were not any sophisticated systems, just simple solutions from offroad cars. It was big deal back then between RWD cars (and that wasn't the rule cause they were losing with rwd quite often).
I salute you for doing these roller tests. They are a good baseline test, however, they are only 50% of the story (I should know, I worked for several auto manufacturers and used to conduct them). Few things you didn't cover: 1. quattro is NOT ONE SYSTEM. There are at least 5 different quattro systems that have been made in the past decade: Haldex, crown-gear center differential, viscous coupling, ultra, and the venerable Torsen system (the most capable). You should specify WHICH quattro system you are covering. 2. This vehicle uses Audi's ultra quattro system, the most economy-focused system. It's front-drive biased unlike the Torsen and crown-gear, which are rear-biased and are more capable. 3. Most roller tests do not take into account ENDURANCE. There are many vehicles I have tested that do well on rollers, but out in the real-world their AWD systems begin to fail (especially multi-plate clutch systems). This is because virtually all clutch-based systems will disengage an axle if they overheat due to 1.) high resistance being applied 2.) the system being engaged for long periods of time. Case in point. xDrive is one of my favorite systems. They do awesome in roller tests. However, after extended use, like any multi-plate clutch system, they can overheat and the clutch will disengage. Here's a video that demonstrates that: (Fast forward to 15:00 min in and turn on the CC translation to your preferred language). At about 15:15, the front wheels stop spinning. The clutch has overheated. Then compare to 4MATIC and Torsen-based quattro immediately after. ua-cam.com/video/y2IA-ml1Nec/v-deo.html
Great job! I so wanted it to move off the 3 rollers better! I have a '13 Allroad and would never say the awd system from that year in comparison is best in class but other attributes make it the perfect sport wagon!
I've got a '14 allroad... I've put it in some precarious positions, and it still comes out like a beast. If these newer ones had less touch screens and tech I'd upgrade but I hate the new stuff like that. Would love a 6 cylinder and ride height adjustments tho!
Can we please do a “Gold Hitch” yearly award for the best performing vehicle on the rollers? It’s a super applicable test for most consumers in most areas of the country.
I feel like I want to say the 2019 Honda Pilot i-VTM4 you did a slip test on back in 2018 got off the rollers faster. Acura sh-awd is the same system, different name. Even my old 2010 MDX with sh-awd was a monster in snow. There's a pretty cool video titled "Acura SH AWD vs Audi Quattro vs Lexus ATC" on UA-cam a while back. They took 3 SUVs up a 20% grade, one side on ice.
I'm a Jeeper (4 last vehicles), but if (for some odd reason) I "had to" chose a AWD system for a mostly highway driven estate wagon I would personally have chosen an Audi with a Quattro®/Thorsen system before a VW/Skoda/Volvo with a Haldex system. Why? The Thorsen is a permanent and mechanical with self-locking center differential while the 4-motion is on-demand and electronically activated clutch.
Very informative video. I just bought the exact color combo A6 Allroad yesterday. The Soho Brown Metallic looks a lot better in person. So far it's been super cool car. It seems to have a setting for everything. I just have my fingers crossed that the 3.0 TFSI engine is a good one,.
Definitely a car I want and wish I could afford. The AWD performed very well and if I needed anything more I'd be looking for a true off roader while this car is a jack of all trades.
Yeah I got an '07 A4 Avant. It would be pretty stuck in all of these tests. Full quattro with Torsen center diff, and 'brake diff lock' between the front wheels and 'brake diff lock' between the rear wheels. The quattro is great for handling on pave in dry and rain, but as soon as things get too slippery, it wouldn't pull the car out of being stuck. I still won't do without it, and it does better than Haldex part time quattro, but it's not going to take you rock crawling. I take this car skiing and camping in some remote places, but it would spin tires and get stuck if anything got a wheel in the air. I think the real problem with my gen car is that the brakes just can't clamp down tight enough to stop a spinning wheel very well.
@@erichtisnado1536 Haldex will do significantly better than torsen in really slippery conditions because there's no centre differential to slip,so it's the same as having a locked centre differential (Provided you don't cook the Haldex clutch). The car failing the three wheel slip test with rear wheel only grip is down to bad software unless the ABS can't brake the rear wheels independently, which seem unlikely to me as one of the main ways stability control adjusts the car during a slide is by braking the rear wheels independently. Where Haldex style 4WD falls down is during performance road and gravel driving where there is not quite enough grip for the power being put down as the Torsen bias ratio allows the system to smoothly maintain traction without any brake interference. With Torsen setup, when there's no grip at all at a wheel, the torsen will act like an open differential.
Its kind of interesting because the EDL brake torque vectoring system they use isnt really effective with traction control on, i learned this the hard way
A6 Allroad with the petrol V6 is equipped with quattro ultra and 7 speed DSG. Diesel V6 are with classic mechanical quattro, and 8 speed automatic. That all can affect the results.
This did well, but not as well as the original Quattro system with locking center and rear differentials, or the locking rear and torsen center. The electronics on modern cars are wonderful in everyday driving situations, but don't hold up to more demanding situations like the overbuilt original system could handle. I think this system is set up for efficiency, while still being reasonable good for challenging situations. I am glad no CVTs were involved in this test.
Get dad to throw a little weight behind it. Anyway, the results make sense since the all-wheel drive is front wheel dominant. Unfortunately, those rear wheels don't get enough power distribution for only one wheel to pull you out of trouble.
Don't straddle the drainage valley. Even if it doesn't change the outcome, I kept thinking having the uneven pressure applied to the rollers made them less likely to freewheel.
Give me the Acura SH-AWD over the Audi Quattro for this test. Quattro just seems to lag in this challenge. Poor Roman had to break a sweat to get the A6 Allroad moving.
Many Chinese Audi users don't like quattro ultra because its using longetivity is not as good as mechanical torsen center diff under the off-road mode.
Let us know if the ride is good in the various suspension heights. The cars with air suspension that I’ve driven are not usable in the highest or lowest settings.
I have said this before, if you want real performance such as handling, acceleration, balance, towing, off road capabilities, etc.... it must start with a true real wheel drive platform and then add AWD or 4X4 system. Front wheel drive based drive trains are for econo boxes not 70+ thousand dollar automobiles ..
I love the camera angle about 4:35 when Tommy looks as tall as, maybe, a basketball. Makes it look like a buyer gets a huge amount of car for $70k. Like maybe the car is trying to make up for it lacking a functional Quattro system.
Audi used to have the Torsendiff in both center and rear axle, it was the best system until they removed it around 2016 due to save gas per mile! The best about Torsendiff was also that it was totally mechanical with no need for electronic sensors and computers. Should be intresting to see the difference to this new car
I saw an explanation on a different channel why Europeans prefer “Estate vehicles” (wagons) over sedans. Apparently there is a tax incentive similar to Americans purchasing a truck with a GVWR over 6000 lbs. And pickup trucks aren’t as available over there.
I don’t know what all different modes this has, but wouldn’t a snow/ice/slippery type setting be more ideal for this test? Off road I wouldn’t think would be as proactively concerned about this kind of wheel slippage. With as much of a difference as there was in the off-road setting compared to auto, it makes me wonder if a more accurate mode selection would’ve made it perform better.
I have watched lots of videos of the audi quattro on the rollers, this test has a different result than all the others, quattro had no issues getting off the rollers in the other tests?
Always love when I can watch TFL content with my morning coffee. Have an awesome day @Tommy
So do I, while having dinner.
Tommy's commentary is def one of the best on the channel
I was like, “dang this did better than my Mazda 3 turbo..” *looks up price* “I’m very very happy with the performance of the Mazda 3 turbo.”
I like driving my lady's 3 turbo more than my S5. Better steering, way more engaging in the backroads.
@@FrankMWertzstock b9 s5?
Lubricate those rollers, Tommy! Squeaking and smoking is their way of screaming for help.
I do before every vid!
@@TFLoffroad use a thicker lube. Full synthetic gear lube.
@@johnb7430 or atleast a grease preferably bearing or wheel bearing.
It'll do that if you have a 2 ton Audi on there 😂
Lithium grease please. Tell me you’re not using wd40🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼!!
5:18 America isn't the only market. In Europe it's a classic and we love it!
I like wagons in general and Audi's A6 Allroad especially. Thanks for the interesting test.
Love the slip test....Really shows the true nature of a vehicle's all wheel drive system. The 3 wheel test with the rollers on the primary axle is the acid test! Please keep doing this test.
This is why your channel is the best . Because it does real world use. Thanks
This is *Quattro Ultra* system, extremely different from the "classic" quattro.
definetely, they shouldn't have given up on the crowngear mid-diff, at least on allroad models
@@yavuzalpay150 Diesel versions of A6 Allroad still have torsen.
Does this not have the torsen differentials in the axles? Or is that only the center diff? something isn't right here-- Torsen's should not slip while being driven.
@@calholli It doesn't have center diff at all, there's a clutch pack. If there was torsen - it would be slipping much more. Front and rear diffs are open.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers From what I've seen, the torsen's don't slip once they are being driven. They are free to spin at different speeds around corners, but once the engine is driving power into them, they lock up-- because it uses a type of worm gear; that can slip one direction, but not the other. I assumed that all Audi quattro systems used this.. apparently they have different set ups. Why they still call it "quattro is beyond me. smh.
I smelt front wheel drive Bias from the video start
Pretty sure all A models are front wheel bias
dont think its haldex, thats y they use torque converter gearbox for real quattro, haldex is on the cars with 1 or 3 at the end
@@rayathasan3197 Don't the A4 and A5 also have Haldex? Not the S ones though. It's tough to tell tbh.
My A6 is really good, but the traction control programming sucks. It's best in dynamic mode with traction control off.
@@OviWanKeno9i dont think so, because the A3 a1 are mostly vw based, rest r audi based , coz they have options for torque converter gearbox, meaning real quattro
@@rayathasan3197 no, you’re correct. Older TT’s and A3’s use Haldex. The A4/6 etc use Torsen permanent AWD.
I love the slip tests, some of my favorite videos. The A6 line is some of the best-looking cars made right now. If I could afford a $70k+ car I'm pretty confident it would be one of the A6 models.
I have to say that I used to be more of a fan of this test. The test of the Y seemed to suggest that the front wouldn’t get power if the rears were spinning. After a winter of driving in snowy Park City, I have yet to experience any situation where my Y didn’t seem to send power to the front so close to instantaneously that it truly feels like rear-biased AWD to me. My V90 Cross Country has yet to find a situation where it can’t get traction in the snow. Both have snow tires. Although my Allroad was the earlier version, we never had an issue with traction in snow and mud in VT. I have no doubt that you can get any car stuck if you try hard enough, I truly wonder if this test is really just a test of this test and not really all that applicable to real world low traction situations. I do definitely believe you guys are treating all cars the same - this is not a comment about your honesty or independence.
you should do this test to the new Yukon Denali/Tahoe high country/escalade
@gdubb420gw I have a 2021 Yukon Denali 4wd and there is an auto setting, 4 high, 4 low, and 2 high. I just wanted to see how it would perform in all of the tests compared to a regular awd system
Audi Always....Every Dollars Worth.Quality ,Style,Performans....Love my A7..
With my 2017 S5 Holding the traction control button for 10 seconds. Which fully defeats it makes a huge difference in Winter driving in Colorado.
Wonder if this one would have acted better if you had defeated the ESC?
Compare it to a 5 series with xDrive and E class with 4matic.
ua-cam.com/video/ydJ8o81jpVA/v-deo.html
What about Hondas SH-AWD
@@jpalasz123 not a vehicle in the same class.
As an Audi fan I´m dissapointed ....the final test got me :(
Hey Tommy, do you have any roller test score table ?
From the tests I've seen, the Defender is the best so far.
Am I missing something ?
Really missed your puppy! Surprising 3 wheel rear test!
I have the Audi E tron Quattro 50 and I was enjoying the car and its pretty fast I speed up on turns a little to see the handling Its crazy to see how good that car performs
In the EU, these wagons and their VW brothers are very popular as people there do care how their vehicles drive. These vehicles do amazing in the snow when equipped with snow tires.
Great Video! Its interesting to see how the drive modes are dramatically changing the awd performance. My 2016 Q5 doesnt have any drive modes so id be curious to see if the more basic of the traditional Quattro systems will do better.
The true "quattro" system with the torsen diffs will do far better. It uses a "worm gear" type setup, so the wheels can slip while going around corners, but when the engine is driving them, they will lock every time. I thought all audi "quattro's used that old system, but I guess not. They just use the name to fool me. smh
@@calholli Thats why I ended up getting a 2016 (it was sold in Feb of 2017) and not the updated 2018 with the haldex quattro system, that and they were a bit to expensive and I don't like the looks too much compared to my year.
@@LavaGreyQ5 There is no haldex-quattro in newer Q5. There is Quattro Ultra which is also using a clutch-pack but it's very different from haldex.
ua-cam.com/video/PftzZWpTJFY/v-deo.html
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers The Quattro Ultra is practically the same as the a3/tt's haldex quattro system the 'quattro ultra' is just for the longitudinally mounted engines, ie. the new Q5's. Thats essentially what a Haldex system is, its front wheel drive until it senses slip then uses clutch packs to decouple the rear driveshaft, among a few other things.
Ooh, I'm getting nervous watching this. I've been driving Audi Quattros for 14 years. Tommy's slip tests certainly separate the wheat from the chaff!
I've been driving Audi Quattros for 25 years. I have learned that sometimes it pays to turn off ESP, especially in deep snow.
@@cameraz99 that's interesting 🤔. Which models have you been driving. I started with the b7 followed by the b8 and b9. I think the quattro system on the b7 was more sorted than the b9 which gets a little tail happy if you give it the beans in snow.
@@simsalb -- I had a B5, B6, B8 and B9. My B8 seemed the best in snow.
Glad I got the optional rear diff on my SQ5. Great tests!
Please compare a Mercedes 4Matic with this! Thank you, Tommy!
There is no comparison, it usually dominates 4matic and x drive…
To take issue with Tommy's comment about buying a 3 row Audi suv over this for about the same money......this car will spank any suv in a zoom zoom comparison. Some care, some don't.
For me audi has the best all-wheel-drive system!
the proper Quattro system is damn near unrivaled
@@kyleb5518 yeah.... Does this not have the torsen differentials in the axles? Or is that only the center diff? something isn't right here-- It shouldn't slip at all while the wheels are being driven . I guess this isnt' the "real deal" original quattro with all torsen diffs.
@@calholli There was no quattro system with all torsen diffs, ever. There was only one car in the history of Audi which had two torsen diffs. Other models used only one (center).
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I don't know much about Audi.. The only "quattro" I've heard of was when they first came out with it on their off road rally racing cars; and they were a big deal back then. I see the 'quattro" name on all kinds of audi stuff/ I just assumed that meant that they were putting that torsen system in everything. I guess the marketing team got me good, being an outsider looking in. Why call your set up "quattro" if you're just yet another brake actuated traction control, and a clutch diff? Its just like everything else out there. The Acura "SH-AWD system is far better that these.. The old torsen is likely the best solution, but apparently they don't even use them. lol fml
@@calholli If you go this way then quattro with torsen shoudn't be called "quattro" to. Why? Because there was no torsen in original quattro which you mentioned. Actually, rally versions didn't even have a center differential. They were not any sophisticated systems, just simple solutions from offroad cars. It was big deal back then between RWD cars (and that wasn't the rule cause they were losing with rwd quite often).
College GF had a 1984 4000 S Quattro... ridiculous sounding machine. So cool.
I salute you for doing these roller tests. They are a good baseline test, however, they are only 50% of the story (I should know, I worked for several auto manufacturers and used to conduct them).
Few things you didn't cover:
1. quattro is NOT ONE SYSTEM. There are at least 5 different quattro systems that have been made in the past decade: Haldex, crown-gear center differential, viscous coupling, ultra, and the venerable Torsen system (the most capable). You should specify WHICH quattro system you are covering.
2. This vehicle uses Audi's ultra quattro system, the most economy-focused system. It's front-drive biased unlike the Torsen and crown-gear, which are rear-biased and are more capable.
3. Most roller tests do not take into account ENDURANCE. There are many vehicles I have tested that do well on rollers, but out in the real-world their AWD systems begin to fail (especially multi-plate clutch systems). This is because virtually all clutch-based systems will disengage an axle if they overheat due to 1.) high resistance being applied 2.) the system being engaged for long periods of time.
Case in point. xDrive is one of my favorite systems. They do awesome in roller tests. However, after extended use, like any multi-plate clutch system, they can overheat and the clutch will disengage. Here's a video that demonstrates that:
(Fast forward to 15:00 min in and turn on the CC translation to your preferred language).
At about 15:15, the front wheels stop spinning. The clutch has overheated. Then compare to 4MATIC and Torsen-based quattro immediately after.
ua-cam.com/video/y2IA-ml1Nec/v-deo.html
I would like to see some x-drive BMW on the rollers. There are other tests on the UA-cam but you do it the best. Keep it going!
You’d be disappointed with the X drive I know I was compared to my Quattro. I think bmw has some more work to do before it’s awd is more competitive.
I do like the look of the A6 wagon/avant/estate.
Audi Quattro is the best hands down. For a car. I’ve never been stuck even in the deepest of snow. Hahaha. Love Audi.
test a kia k5 awd on this. i'm curious to see how it performs vs the camry awd
Need to do more of these. It is a good show of the AWD systems. Wonder what the new G.O.A.T. modes will do.
Great job! I so wanted it to move off the 3 rollers better!
I have a '13 Allroad and would never say the awd system from that year in comparison is best in class but other attributes make it the perfect sport wagon!
I've got a '14 allroad... I've put it in some precarious positions, and it still comes out like a beast. If these newer ones had less touch screens and tech I'd upgrade but I hate the new stuff like that. Would love a 6 cylinder and ride height adjustments tho!
have you ever tried this test on a jeep grand cherokee with quadra drive 2?
Kinda wish it had the locking rear diff that my old 5000CS Quattro had! The new Allroad seems to be pretty nice otherwise!
As an Audi owner, I just wish they could come to grips with their tailpipe shyness. Nice test though!
Can we please do a “Gold Hitch” yearly award for the best performing vehicle on the rollers? It’s a super applicable test for most consumers in most areas of the country.
Great video. I never liked Quattro. I had 2002 A4 and I’d didn’t do that great in the snow. Surprised me.
Tires are a huge factor when snow comes into play.
Says the 2.7 was problematic but yet is a legendary motor that us enthusiasts prefer over all new audi engines aside from the RS3/TTRS
I love these tests. Please test the BMW X3 xdrive
Great job, Tommy. Love these slip tests!
I feel like I want to say the 2019 Honda Pilot i-VTM4 you did a slip test on back in 2018 got off the rollers faster. Acura sh-awd is the same system, different name. Even my old 2010 MDX with sh-awd was a monster in snow. There's a pretty cool video titled "Acura SH AWD vs Audi Quattro vs Lexus ATC" on UA-cam a while back. They took 3 SUVs up a 20% grade, one side on ice.
Great to see the test,thanks a lot 👍👍
I'm a Jeeper (4 last vehicles), but if (for some odd reason) I "had to" chose a AWD system for a mostly highway driven estate wagon I would personally have chosen an Audi with a Quattro®/Thorsen system before a VW/Skoda/Volvo with a Haldex system. Why? The Thorsen is a permanent and mechanical with self-locking center differential while the 4-motion is on-demand and electronically activated clutch.
Love these tests! Maybe maybe VW could bring back their alltrak sportwagen.
Disappointing the $71K Audi A6 Allroad Quattro got stuck. Can you do this test with a E450 4matic wagon? Great video!!
It doesn’t have real Quattro. Only the S or RS cars have that(torsen system)
Very informative video. I just bought the exact color combo A6 Allroad yesterday. The Soho Brown Metallic looks a lot better in person. So far it's been super cool car. It seems to have a setting for everything. I just have my fingers crossed that the 3.0 TFSI engine is a good one,.
Love this test...good job Tommy....surprised it didn't make it while the mazda cx5 did.
The c5 allroads motor was legit. The torque converter tho.. 😬
Time to grease those bearings on the rollers
Very good grip you get with this tyre also, continental !!!
Image of Audi now shattered lol
“Shattered” 😂
@@elchucapablas lol
Definitely a car I want and wish I could afford. The AWD performed very well and if I needed anything more I'd be looking for a true off roader while this car is a jack of all trades.
Yeah I got an '07 A4 Avant. It would be pretty stuck in all of these tests. Full quattro with Torsen center diff, and 'brake diff lock' between the front wheels and 'brake diff lock' between the rear wheels. The quattro is great for handling on pave in dry and rain, but as soon as things get too slippery, it wouldn't pull the car out of being stuck. I still won't do without it, and it does better than Haldex part time quattro, but it's not going to take you rock crawling. I take this car skiing and camping in some remote places, but it would spin tires and get stuck if anything got a wheel in the air. I think the real problem with my gen car is that the brakes just can't clamp down tight enough to stop a spinning wheel very well.
@@erichtisnado1536 Haldex will do significantly better than torsen in really slippery conditions because there's no centre differential to slip,so it's the same as having a locked centre differential (Provided you don't cook the Haldex clutch). The car failing the three wheel slip test with rear wheel only grip is down to bad software unless the ABS can't brake the rear wheels independently, which seem unlikely to me as one of the main ways stability control adjusts the car during a slide is by braking the rear wheels independently. Where Haldex style 4WD falls down is during performance road and gravel driving where there is not quite enough grip for the power being put down as the Torsen bias ratio allows the system to smoothly maintain traction without any brake interference. With Torsen setup, when there's no grip at all at a wheel, the torsen will act like an open differential.
@@layne4376 If that's the case then it's pretty much certain something is wrong with it.
have you done this traction test with an all wheel drive Tesla? I am curious to know how that compares.
Its kind of interesting because the EDL brake torque vectoring system they use isnt really effective with traction control on, i learned this the hard way
Test it on 30% upgrade with real snow
Quite an amazing AWD system! Well done Audi...
The iconic slip test of Tommy.
I like how he turned off ESP like a normal person would do when they are stuck in a REAL LIFE SITUATION, oh wait...
Most people don't know what ESP is, let alone know how to deactivate it 😜
You guys should do this test on all the AWD cars
Definitely need pack some hub grease in those rollers 🤣
A6 Allroad with the petrol V6 is equipped with quattro ultra and 7 speed DSG. Diesel V6 are with classic mechanical quattro, and 8 speed automatic. That all can affect the results.
Diesel with torsen quattro passed all tests. But so did other models with quattro ultra so I don't know what was the problem here...
I really want an Allroad
I love to own a Audi A6 allroad, such a beautiful car. 😂 even it’s not as reliable
That is the "older" generation. The one before the new one. And those tended out to be very reliable. It's the new generation that has issues.
@@AtzenMiro This is the new generation A6. Last A6 allroad was not available in the US
@@thelarry383 Then it is new in the USA. Here in Germany there is a new generation of A6. I thought the new generation allready made it over the pun.
1. gen allroad was a disaster.
Love these tests!
The B250 is the one to beat. It has the best software logic to get it unstuck.
Can you please test the Buick Regal TourX?
Well described the capabilities of car and awd system
This is the real Quattro! All A6 models and above do have that.
Nope, this is Quattro Ultra.
This did well, but not as well as the original Quattro system with locking center and rear differentials, or the locking rear and torsen center. The electronics on modern cars are wonderful in everyday driving situations, but don't hold up to more demanding situations like the overbuilt original system could handle. I think this system is set up for efficiency, while still being reasonable good for challenging situations. I am glad no CVTs were involved in this test.
Lexus have new all wheel drive sedans. Would like to see them tested!!
Is this the same Quattro system that's in the Q7?
yes
No. Q7 uses torsen differential, here it is Quattro Ultra.
I appreciate that audi is building this car. with raised air suspension it can do 90% of the work of an SUV will ever see.
Until the air suspension fails
@@Eatmypho Right, failures are expensive with air suspensions.
@@siLox95 true but this is just to go out on weekends or just head into mountain
Get dad to throw a little weight behind it.
Anyway, the results make sense since the all-wheel drive is front wheel dominant. Unfortunately, those rear wheels don't get enough power distribution for only one wheel to pull you out of trouble.
cool test...and love Audi..I have GL550 and now want to move towards Audi SQ7....please test SQ7..power and car weight can clear last hurdle..
Dang those rollers are smoking.
performed just like the Subaru crosstrek
Do you all have Grand Cherokee video of this? The WK2
Should you try comfort mode? I believe all wheels engaged constantly in comfort mode
Don't straddle the drainage valley. Even if it doesn't change the outcome, I kept thinking having the uneven pressure applied to the rollers made them less likely to freewheel.
Give me the Acura SH-AWD over the Audi Quattro for this test. Quattro just seems to lag in this challenge. Poor Roman had to break a sweat to get the A6 Allroad moving.
@@JulezWinnfield who was pushing the car in the video?
Tommy is driving and asked for a push
The quattro implementation used here "Quattro Ultra" is less effective than the Superior Quattro system used before
As a long-time Audi owner, I'm curious why the car's systems (ESP, ADL) didn't lock the spinning wheels on the last test?
It probably needs more throttle and more time to figure out the situation. That's how A4 Allroad with Quattro Ultra pass these tests.
Audi > Suburu any day of the week
Many Chinese Audi users don't like quattro ultra because its using longetivity is not as good as mechanical torsen center diff under the off-road mode.
Let us know if the ride is good in the various suspension heights. The cars with air suspension that I’ve driven are not usable in the highest or lowest settings.
Big fan of the slip test.
I have said this before, if you want real performance such as handling, acceleration, balance, towing, off road capabilities, etc.... it must start with a true real wheel drive platform and then add AWD or 4X4 system. Front wheel drive based drive trains are for econo boxes not 70+ thousand dollar automobiles ..
you cooked the bearings in that right front roller, lol
I love the camera angle about 4:35 when Tommy looks as tall as, maybe, a basketball. Makes it look like a buyer gets a huge amount of car for $70k. Like maybe the car is trying to make up for it lacking a functional Quattro system.
So what happens in the Tesla if the screen goes blank???? Does it mean you loose control of everything?
So I'm not the only one that though of this. Apparently, Tesla engineers never heard to old idiom: never put all you eggs in one basket.
It is primarily a FWD car. My 08 Audi A6 Avant is a 50/50 split and I wonder how that would affect the results.
It is not a FWD car. Standard distribution is 40% front, 60% rear power.
@@tw88888888 No, this is Quattro Ultra, fwd based system.
Please do more of these
Audi used to have the Torsendiff in both center and rear axle, it was the best system until they removed it around 2016 due to save gas per mile! The best about Torsendiff was also that it was totally mechanical with no need for electronic sensors and computers. Should be intresting to see the difference to this new car
The only Audi in history which had center and rear torsen diffs was 1988 Audi V8 with manual transmission.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers automatic ones had it too
@@nmg997 Only rear. Center diff was open with multiplate locking clutch-pack.
The current center diff is a torsen c, and some models (like the rs ones) get a torque vectoring rear diff that works better than a lsd
@@IR-xy3ij Actually it's torsen CSM and it is used only in configurations >500 Nm.
I saw an explanation on a different channel why Europeans prefer “Estate vehicles” (wagons) over sedans. Apparently there is a tax incentive similar to Americans purchasing a truck with a GVWR over 6000 lbs. And pickup trucks aren’t as available over there.
Nobody uses the third row! America, please buy these.
Audi all day!!
I don’t know what all different modes this has, but wouldn’t a snow/ice/slippery type setting be more ideal for this test? Off road I wouldn’t think would be as proactively concerned about this kind of wheel slippage. With as much of a difference as there was in the off-road setting compared to auto, it makes me wonder if a more accurate mode selection would’ve made it perform better.
Looks good. I’d still like to see some trucks on there! Without the locking differential and what not haha
I have watched lots of videos of the audi quattro on the rollers, this test has a different result than all the others, quattro had no issues getting off the rollers in the other tests?