Our test reveals: BYD Seal AWD is not all-wheel drive [Part 1]
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2024
- BYD's electric model Seal AWD is supposed to have all-wheel drive, but Teknikens Värld's test reveals that the front wheels do not drive. BYD has localized the problem and
BYD has located the error and produced an update that will soon be sent out to affected cars. Watch part 2 here: • After our test: BYD up...
Read the complete article here (via Google Translate): teknikensvarld-expressen-se.t... - Авто та транспорт
In a world where the line between automotive journalists and social media car celebrities is disappearing, it's so refreshing to see some proper automotive journalism. Please keep it this way. We highly appreciate it.
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Thank you for actually testing claims like AWD, instead of just assuming that it's there and working! Seemingly you are the only ones to have actually tested it, so far! Great journalistic testing and investigation!
Many people on YT said the AWD system in the ByYD is trash, now we have the professionals prove it.
Were the tests done in Eco Drive mode by any chance? I read that the car is essentially RWD when in eco mode.
It is tested in all modes. No difference. BYD has come with a fix that soon will be sent out to all cars. Look at the solution in part 2: ua-cam.com/video/1-tDRGLbTrA/v-deo.html
did you pay the subscription for front motors
Don't give the German manufacturers ideas !!! 😂
@@stevenjones916 BMW started it.
I wouldn't be surprised if ex-BMW executives are working in BYD 😂
Has the front drive reduction gearbox a one way clutch ? This is an important question, please check it out.
Besides video 2, are you doing a new review affter the update?
Perhaps it is in a drive mode that disconnects the front motor much of the time. My Ioniq 5 has 4 drive modes and 4 regen modes. One drive mode is specifically for snow and similar. In Eco mode it disconnects the front motor much of the time unless the highest regen level is selected. On an unsealed road, I change to Eco mode with regen level 4 ('pedal'), which causes the front motor to be engaged all the time.
OMFG we need some answers from BYD
You have the answers in Part 2 which is linked in the description: ua-cam.com/video/1-tDRGLbTrA/v-deo.html
You can also read the article for further information (use Google Translate): teknikensvarld.expressen.se/nyheter/bil-och-trafik/elbil-laddhybrid/efter-vart-test-byd-atgardar-fyrhjulsdrivna-seal/
As the AWD car has a total of 523bhp from all motors working together, does this 'faulty' car go from 0-100km/h in approx. 3.8 seconds? If it is more like 5-6seconds, then front motor doesn't appear to be working.
Plenty of videos doing 3.8.
Maybe the manufacturer had the A letter on their computer keyboard where the R was supposed to be?
So, someone builds and sells a vehicle that completely does not do what it says it will do? That's the absolute definition of unsafe. Maybe they should badge it as the BYD Edsel.
Great content as always! Would BYD respond? 😮
Tip: Clink link in description for part 2, or click here: ua-cam.com/video/1-tDRGLbTrA/v-deo.html
Känns som det kan vara bra att lägga ihop klippen till ett klipp då många medvetet verkar strunta i att se del 2.
which version u tested? there arre 2 version. 1 is rwd and 1 is awd
Have you seen the video? Take a look again, we have confirmed several times that this really is an AWD version.
BYD has inspected the car and come with a solution, take a look at part two where the car is updated: ua-cam.com/video/1-tDRGLbTrA/v-deo.html
This is not a AWD version, it's rear wheel drive only, AWD version has 3.8 embossed on the back.
It's great that you actually demonstrated that the car is not AWD, but it would have been great to explain how and when the front motor gets into action.
Great video, albeit a little short
Great video 👍 Please keep doing those tests. I would like to see Tesla Model Y LR.
From the Facebook groups I am part of it doesnt look like they are really AWD either.
Thanks. Tesla's models are among the best AWD cars in our tests. One of the competitors in the BYD Seal AWD test is the updated Model 3 LR. It performs perfectly regardless of whether there is no friction on the front wheels, on the rear wheels or on the right or left wheel pair.
@@teknikensvarld OK thanks great to know 👍 I just saw a bunch of Model Y LR owners with their rear wheels stuck this winter, where the front wheels didnt do anythinh to help. The rear wheels just kept spinning and spinning. Almost as if it didnt have any motor in the front.
We'll have an extra look in our next test involving Model Y LR.
Jag uppskattar det som ni gör. Alla pratar om hur bra byd bilar men ni pratar om verkligheten. 🎉
Maybe the result would be better by activating the snow mode.
Interesting. It would have finished it off if there was an explanation from BYD or their agent.
SHARE MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE UPDATED PROVIDED TO FIX IT
BYD doesn't explain exactly what was changed in the software. Rarely that car manufacturers tell the world what exacctly have changed. A small explanation is told here though: teknikensvarld.expressen.se/nyheter/bil-och-trafik/elbil-laddhybrid/efter-vart-test-byd-atgardar-fyrhjulsdrivna-seal/
Google Translate to a language of choice.
MG Marvel R also miss AWD in reverse ...
Bring your drivetrain
Now do the emissions test on German cars which caused financial loss to all users across the world
Some Seal's have motors on the front and rear - some models just on the rear
And these two cars have two motors! Take a look at part 2: ua-cam.com/video/1-tDRGLbTrA/v-deo.html
WHAT, the four well drive was one of the reasons oderd one!
They have already fixed it. A update will come OTA that will fix it for all cars. Watch part 2 and you will see.
Jep i watch that, but still, a bit alarming@@UgglemannenFTW
If you check out CAR MAGAZINES latest video on the Seal AWD, it just set the fastest lap at Castle Coombe race track in England, for an EV! 1min 31 seconds. There was no problem with the AWD!
The front wheels are only activated after you say "Tibet and Taiwan are eternally parts of China."
That must be done on every drive.
Iidiott
Chinese quality for you. And that's with total respect of human and environmental's rights too!
Here has been a software update and problem fixed!
Yes, BYD came up with a fix after our test. Take a look at part 2: ua-cam.com/video/1-tDRGLbTrA/v-deo.html
😂 what the heck dual motor
It works above certain spped as to stablized the car. Disable it at low speed to maintain menuverability like the X drive does.
Ubrukelig Bil fra temu
"Promo SM"
Agent of anti Western sale
To buy a chinesse car is like play roulette.
at least in roulette you have a chance to win... chinese products winning is not an option
@@XEONvE
So you are saying EU is worried for no good reason about Chinese evs coming to their market. Elon Musk is wrong to say that without high tariffs the Chinese will dominate. Not true at all. No one in Europe will buy Chinese. Their brands are safe. No need to impose more tariffs. Right?
what are you talking about?? learn to read and write English before embarrassing yourself.@@kamsunleong6648
People don't want PRC brands because of (1) poor build quality, (2) the lack of a decent dealer network and (3) because these tofu cars come with extreme depreciation.
Tofu dreg car
No wonder EU is so worried about Chinese tofu dreg evs coming into their market. They are already launching an investigation and threatening more tariffs. They are afraid Europeans might prefer these tofu dreg cars than their own brands.
@@kamsunleong6648 Lets make it simple: EU imposes similar tariffs on Chinese imported cars, as China imposes on European cars that are imported in China? Right now EU imposes 10% tariff on Chinese cars, while China imposes 15-25% tariff on European cars.
Of Course, Chinese companies could build their cars in EU, but they could do so only through joint ventures with European companies, like what China insists European manufacturers do. Those joint ventures would then be used to move Chinese R&D to the European partners.
And of course, EU should also start colossal industrial espionage campaign in China, scooping up every piece of tech and handing it to EU companies. (the value of Chinese industrial espionage has been estimated to be in the trillions of dollars. Not billions, trillions.)
You buy Chinese product, you get Chinese quality
Get what you pay for. Steer away from any of this poorly made Chinese junk.
It is not poorly made it is a wonderful car. RWD is a better value buy with more range.
As he said in the above comment, Mercedes had to recall and upgrade their chassis to correct a serious vehicle rollover scenario. Would you call that (very expensive) German Junk as well.rofl.
They have already fixed the issue... a update is coming ota.
And what about all the dieselgate german manufacturers? Toyota faking crash tests? And so on.
@@sammaimas155yes exactly and what about the dieselgate, Toyota faking crash tests and so on. Seems all manufacturers cheat whenever they can.
Proof is in the pudding my man. That's why Chinese evs like BYD completely dominate the market here in Asean by a wide margin. Affordable and reliable. They will dominate the RHD market here and Down Under as well. Same in Brazil. Market decides not biased opinions.
Now what did you expect from a Chinese car? That's their typical strategy for everything. Real specs are always less than half of what is advertised on the box.
These guys are clowns. It is an awd. Awd isnt 4wd because all 4 wheels are not always engaged. What happened here was that the awd wasnt engaging because they did not read the owners manual on how to engage it with snow. You have to click the snow button right when you need it.
Im not sure how true these videos are
We have been testing cars since 1948. We have exposed errors in cars many, many times and car manufacturers have been forced to redo/update cars several times. Most famous is our rolling over with the Mercedes A-Class in the moose test 1997. Mercedes had du recall the model and upgrade the chassis plus implementing ESP (ESC) to make it safe.
In this case BYD have come with a fix to remove Seal AWD's faulty behaviour. Take a look at part 2 of this video, where engineers from BYD are in site with us: ua-cam.com/video/1-tDRGLbTrA/v-deo.html
@@teknikensvarld your wording is completely wrong though and serves as click bait
@@jpataca5598 Come on, get into the game! We don't need to prove any more to you. But for your reading, here are some good links for you:
Ford updates Mustang Mach-E after our test results: teknikensvarld.expressen.se/nyheter/bil-och-trafik/elbil-laddhybrid/ford-confirms-to-teknikens-varld-mustang-mach-e-will-get-an-update/
Toyota updates RAV4 after our test results: teknikensvarld.expressen.se/bil/toyota/rav4/after-the-moose-test-failure-toyota-updates-the-rav4-plug-in-hybrid/
Toyota updates Hilux after our test results: teknikensvarld.expressen.se/nyheter/bil-och-trafik/toyota-hilux-now-handles-the-moose-test-470061/
Hyundai updates i30 after our test results: teknikensvarld.expressen.se/nyheter/bil-och-trafik/hyundai-recalls-i30-after-moose-test-failure-151755/
Jeep updates ESC in facelifted version after our test results: teknikensvarld.expressen.se/webb-tv/this-is-how-the-new-jeep-grand-cherokee-2014-handles-the-moose-test-117095/
There you have a part of all the impact that our tests have. There are several more involving Skoda, Mercedes, BMW etc.
@@teknikensvarld but you guys still dont have the right to use the frases you used saying the front motor doesnt work because it does. Its just in snow conditions where you notice the front motor takes a while to kick in.
You guys should amend what you said and explian that the awd system was lagging with detecting slippage.
You can clearly feel the difference from the rwd to the awd thats why I am against this review. Byd must have just tweaked the response time from the awd to be on more permanently. But people are already critizing the car due to you guys and byd should have the right to sue your organization.
We have all the rights to use the phrases we use, that the front wheels don't engage in the conditions of the test. Thankfully BYD did the right thing, listened to our test results and came up with an update that makes the car better and that benefits the consumers.
All wheel drive means it can all wheel drive if needed and decided by the itac system. It doesn't mean it would always all wheel drive at any second. This is the same for awd ice cars. Misleading video.
We are not saying that this is a permanent all-wheel drive system, but all wheels should be able to drive when the condition demands it. This car model is NOT all-wheel drive, only the back wheels spin, the front wheels won't, as you can see in the video.
BYD has already confirmed (and fixed) the problem, take a look at our next video when the car is updated and all four wheels drive: ua-cam.com/video/1-tDRGLbTrA/v-deo.html
If you see the snow test in this video, where is the on demand awd?
Are you daft?
How can it be a misleading video? It clearly show that the BYD does not give you any 4WD when needed (or when do you think 4wd is needed, if not in a snowy slope?). My Audi Quattro always had 4wd no matter what you did, so it is actually your post that is misleading michael.
@@AndrewTSqbyd logic may consider a flying car is the only way to trigger 4 wheels. That could save battery power as well as the life of the passenger.
Trash car. Polestar eller tesla blir det för alla med en hjärta. Volvo funkar också
Polestar was a brand from the Geely Chinese company in conjunction with Volvo. It is way overpriced compared to the market based on it's technical specs and even Volvo is distancing itself from Polestar, it's share price is falling because a lot of customers don't see the value. Also, Tesla. So full of hype and BS regarding it's specs, fit and finish etc (except for the Shanghai and Brandenburg) manufactured models. Also I would definitely not entertain purchasing a tesla for the many ethical reasons concerning the behaviour of it's ceo.
Dem har redan fixat problemet och ska skicka ut en uppdatering.
Hur är Polestar och Volvo ens prisvärda med 2 års garantier med skyhöga priser?
För dem summorna Volvo/polestar kräver och det man får är ju skrattretande.